Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right
Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this
Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy Now to the easiest bet
Speaker 1: every single year, the Chiefs hitting there over under Andy Reid.
Speaker 1: It has failed to happen one time, and they made
Speaker 1: up for it that year by winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs win total getting even money over eleven and
Speaker 1: a half wins. That's an easy one. I will take
Speaker 1: over eleven and a half every day with Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Twelve and five would disappoint me. I expect thirteen and
Speaker 1: four or better. They are not going eleven and six
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We don't need to spend more time on it.
Speaker 1: Everyone knew I was going Chiefs over because it is
Speaker 1: the right bet. I am going over with the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Our annual tradition EXACTA. Three years ago we
Speaker 1: had Chiefs Niners, and the Niners found themselves in the
Speaker 1: Conference championship game. Last two years ago we had Chiefs Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys found themselves with twelve wins. Last year
Speaker 1: we had Chiefs Bears, and the Bears had a season
Speaker 1: from hell and missed the playoffs. This year, the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl EXACTA at fifty five to one is a drummer.
Speaker 1: We please, Demonse.
Speaker 2: We got Kansas City versus Tampa Bay and the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl exact plus fifty five hundred.
Speaker 1: How about the and then obviously spoiler Super Bowl exactly
Speaker 1: the winner.
Speaker 2: Right, Kansas City defeat Tampa Bay at plus eleven thousand.
Speaker 1: Indeed, so, Demonse, here's something I didn't even think about
Speaker 1: when I made this pick. Brew mentioned it. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: with Mahomes have been to five Super Bowls, all rematches,
Speaker 1: played Philly twice, played San Francisco twice. The one other
Speaker 1: team they played Tampa Bay, another Super Bowl rematch bake
Speaker 1: Show against Patrick revisiting the greatest, the craziest college football
Speaker 1: game ever played. Do you know about their college.
Speaker 2: Game, Demonsemes and Baker against each other? Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they each other up.
Speaker 1: Hold on, well let me, Demonse, so let me just
Speaker 1: tell you real quick, twenty sixteen, because they have played
Speaker 1: in the playoffs before. All right, so the final score, Demanse,
Speaker 1: let me, I'm just actually hold on. Let me just
Speaker 1: go to Patrick Mahomes college stats. Final score was sixty
Speaker 1: six to fifty nine. So that gives you a little
Speaker 1: bit of a preview. It was Texas Tech where Baker
Speaker 1: started against Oklahoma, and hold on, where is it here?
Speaker 1: It is? The final stats are as follows. Uh. Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon was in the game. He ran for two sixty
Speaker 1: okay and four touchdowns. But that wasn't the story. The
Speaker 1: story was Baker. Baker was twenty seven of thirty six
Speaker 1: only through thirty six passes for five hundred and forty
Speaker 1: five yards, seven touchdowns, no picks. Jesus okay, okay. Patrick
Speaker 1: Patrick was fifty two of eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Oh was slee.
Speaker 1: For seven hundred and thirty four yards five touchdowns. Running
Speaker 1: back well, no, they did have a running back go
Speaker 1: twelve carries for eighty five five yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: That running backs name was Patrick Mahomes. So Mahomes in
Speaker 1: that game combined for eight hundred and ten yards, seven touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick. Bake show in that game never ran the
Speaker 1: ball through for five forty five and seven touchdowns on
Speaker 1: just thirty six attempts. Mahomes threw at eighty eight times.
Speaker 1: It is an all time legendary college football game.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: October twenty second, twenty sixteen, all timer. And so they've
Speaker 1: played in the playoffs before Patrick got hurt against the
Speaker 1: when Baker was there in the Browns, and yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my uh, that is most Super Bowl EXACTA. I Am
Speaker 1: not going to sit here and act like everything's fine
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs right now. It isn't. There are some
Speaker 1: I want to focus on the concerning things that have
Speaker 1: occurred in both games. Okay, So for instance, Week one,
Speaker 1: the secondary, which has been a strength of this team,
Speaker 1: looked hugely problematic against Herbert and the Chargers. Week two,
Speaker 1: I thought the secondary looked really good, right, So like
Speaker 1: that's the one good game, one bad game. I'm not
Speaker 1: focusing on that. Here is what through two weeks looks problematic,
Speaker 1: and I don't know where the solve for it is.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs running game is as inept right now as
Speaker 1: it's ever been since Patrick's been there. Pachecko sadly, he
Speaker 1: just does not look like the same player he was
Speaker 1: before he broke his leg. And what's odd about it
Speaker 1: is his biggest problem through two weeks doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be explosion. It seems to be vision and hitting the
Speaker 1: right hole. You wouldn't think that is related to a
Speaker 1: lower body injury, but he just hasn't been effective. Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt is who he is. He if you need one
Speaker 1: yard more way more often than not, he will get
Speaker 1: it for you. But he has no chance of getting
Speaker 1: you ten. And they brought in Elijah Mitchell. Nothing's happened there.
Speaker 1: They drafted Brischard Smith in the I think seventh round.
Speaker 1: He's seventh round rookie. Like they just right now don't
Speaker 1: have the horses in the running back room, and that
Speaker 1: is a spot that I would not at all hate
Speaker 1: for him to be active on. In the trade market,
Speaker 1: I think we have There has been a lot of
Speaker 1: discussion of should the Chiefs trade for Tyreek Hill? The
Speaker 1: wide receivers are coming back, Okay, I if I were
Speaker 1: doing a trade with Miami, I might be equally, if
Speaker 1: not more, interested in Devin h Chan Like I think
Speaker 1: that there are you running backs will be and should
Speaker 1: be available, and that might be a spot that they
Speaker 1: have to bite the bullet and spend some draft capital
Speaker 1: via trade on. So that's one piece, and here's another one.
Speaker 1: As good as Josh Simmons has been at the left
Speaker 1: tackle spot, Patrick still doesn't feel totally comfortable in his protection. Now,
Speaker 1: some of that's been the left guard spot's been really problematic.
Speaker 1: But Creed's great, Trade's great, Simmons is really good, Joan
Speaker 1: Taylor when he's not committing penalties is fine. And Patrick
Speaker 1: just seems like he doesn't trust it right now. And
Speaker 1: I am as confident in Patrick Mahomes as any player
Speaker 1: that's ever played in the league that he will figure
Speaker 1: stuff out. And there have been times this season where
Speaker 1: it has felt like he's out there. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say by himself, but nobody can get opening. They
Speaker 1: can't run the ball, which has forced him to and
Speaker 1: this is the part of the season that I have
Speaker 1: liked the absolute least. It has forced him to activate
Speaker 1: playoff running Mahomes in weeks one and two, and I
Speaker 1: despise that because obviously it puts him in jeopardy, which
Speaker 1: is the biggest concern. But the other thing is one
Speaker 1: of the reasons he has had the post season's success
Speaker 1: that he's had. One of the reasons he has been
Speaker 1: so much more dynamic and effective statistically and from a
Speaker 1: winning perspective on a per game basis than any other
Speaker 1: quarterback in the history of the league come the postseason
Speaker 1: is because every single postseason he adds a huge weapon
Speaker 1: to his game that is not there in the regular season,
Speaker 1: which is the quarterback runs the scrambles, and if he's
Speaker 1: using that during the regular season, it has just multiple concerns.
Speaker 1: One is he can get banged up. Another is you're
Speaker 1: not getting that auto postseason boost. Like Josh Allen and
Speaker 1: Lamar are unbelievable runners at the quarterback position, they do
Speaker 1: it starting in Week one and never stop. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't add an element to their game come the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It has for Patrick and the last listen issue on
Speaker 1: offense is the greatest tight end in the history of
Speaker 1: the league has had a really rough two weeks. There's
Speaker 1: no way around it. Third play of the season. I
Speaker 1: thought it was Xavier's mistake. He says. It was his
Speaker 1: mistake that he ran the wrong depth of his route
Speaker 1: and Xavier's hurt. Later in that game, he and Patrick
Speaker 1: aren't on quite the same page. When they're down nine,
Speaker 1: about to score, they don't connect on what would have
Speaker 1: been a touchdown. And then obviously the Eagles game, they're
Speaker 1: about to take the lead and he bobbles a pass
Speaker 1: and it turns into a game changing interception. That's all.
Speaker 1: It's been highly damaging. I don't know if it's yet
Speaker 1: highly concerning, but it's highly damaging. Okay, So there is
Speaker 1: that piece of it on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: The only complaint I have after week two is they
Speaker 1: cannot seem to get pressure without sending a blitz, like
Speaker 1: if they rush for they just cannot get home. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means the rookies Ashton Jalot
Speaker 1: or Omar Norman lot need to be more effective. Certainly
Speaker 1: Charles Amena who needs to be more effective. Mike Dana
Speaker 1: got hurt in this game. That didn't help. George Karloft
Speaker 1: has just got paid by this team, he needs to
Speaker 1: be more effective. Like Chris Jones is a man on
Speaker 1: an island at times. And so those are real problems, okay,
Speaker 1: And right now the Chiefs don't deserve to be anything
Speaker 1: close to Super Bowl favorites. I'm not gonna sit here
Speaker 1: and act like, ah, they got unlucky, they got this. No.
Speaker 1: If anything, it is surprising that they have had a
Speaker 1: chance to win both of these games when they haven't
Speaker 1: played well. They've missed kicks in both games. They haven't
Speaker 1: forced a turnover. So that is the true and fair,
Speaker 1: sober analysis of where the Chiefs are through two weeks.
Speaker 1: Anything past that is nonsense. Anyone trying to pedal Wow,
Speaker 1: should they be worried about making the playoffs? I think
Speaker 1: has lost their mind. Now is the division for the
Speaker 1: first time in Jeopardy? Yeah, when you're zero to two
Speaker 1: and a team that beat you is two to zero
Speaker 1: with a divisional win, it's understandable that the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: no longer the favorites in the division. Demanse and where
Speaker 1: where does hard Rock Bet have them at? Right now?
Speaker 2: They've got them at plus two forty to win the division?
Speaker 2: Should you hammer that?
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, as it's not surprising to you. Probably
Speaker 1: I have a lot of exposure already on the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: you know, futures and season and win total. But I
Speaker 1: think plus two point forty is good value right now
Speaker 1: when I do right now, if I had to pick it,
Speaker 1: I would still pick the Chiefs to win the division.
Speaker 1: What I do think though, and I told this story
Speaker 1: on the TV show. I'm going to tell it again
Speaker 1: here because having an encyclopedic memory about the Patrick mahomes
Speaker 1: Erra for the Kansaity Chiefs can pay dividends and so
Speaker 1: let me tell you guys. A quick story. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs with the defending champions, went back to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and got blasted by Tampa Bay. The next year,
Speaker 1: not only did they start out three and four, but
Speaker 1: Mahomes had the first real slump of his career. Is
Speaker 1: with Kelsey this Tyreek. They get blown out by Buffalo,
Speaker 1: they get blown out by Tennessee. They then play the
Speaker 1: Giants and need a field goal with a minute left
Speaker 1: to be a foreign and eventually four win. Joe Judge
Speaker 1: Giants team to get to three and four. The very
Speaker 1: next week, they play the Packers in the game Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers can't play in because of That's how we found
Speaker 1: out he didn't have the COVID vaccine because he was
Speaker 1: on the COVID list. And Jordan Love, in his first
Speaker 1: career start, comes to town and it's one of the
Speaker 1: ugliest games ever. And with two minutes left it is
Speaker 1: thirteen to seven Kansas City and Mahomes has played terribly okay,
Speaker 1: And it is third and ten and a first down
Speaker 1: wins the game, and they don't get a first down
Speaker 1: and they could lose outright and fall to three and five,
Speaker 1: and Patrick play breaks down. Patrick scrambles to his right
Speaker 1: off one leg, zips in a laser down the sideline
Speaker 1: to ice the game. And I went on TV the
Speaker 1: next day and said, I believe that's the moment Patrick
Speaker 1: snapped out of his funk. I believe that is the
Speaker 1: moment that the Chiefs will be the Chiefs again. And
Speaker 1: the rest of the season they lost one time and
Speaker 1: made it to the AFC Championship Game, where they did
Speaker 1: lose to the Cincinnati Bengals, But the rest of it,
Speaker 1: from that moment forward, there were good. What does any
Speaker 1: team in football this year? They get blown out in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they look terrible through two weeks. They
Speaker 1: are playing the New York Giants. It is a tie game.
Speaker 1: Approaching halftime, Patrick attempts to swing past Isaiah Pacheco, who
Speaker 1: runs in the wrong direction. The ball is live, it
Speaker 1: is about to be Giants thirteen to six, and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to be in dire straits and Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes runs down the Giants player who's about to scoop
Speaker 1: and score, takes the ball back from him, steadies the team,
Speaker 1: And from that moment forward in that game was Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes again, I do think we are going to look
Speaker 1: back on that moment as the moment the Chiefs studied themselves.
Speaker 1: Where I am, though, Demons is fully relaxed and comfortable
Speaker 1: and relieved about the Chiefs. Let's get right to the
Speaker 1: game of the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we all saw what happened on Sunday. Your
Speaker 2: Chiefs crushed my Ravens. We were obviously riddled with injuries.
Speaker 2: Our quarterback went down very early into the third quarter.
Speaker 2: But she said, after starting in.
Speaker 1: Ten, it is not hold on. Your quarterback did not
Speaker 1: go down early in the third the end of the
Speaker 1: third quarter when when he tapped out when they were
Speaker 1: down seventeen.
Speaker 2: But go ahead, all right, you said, your Chiefs had
Speaker 2: the chance to rewrite history after starting oh and two
Speaker 2: after this game, do you think they did so well?
Speaker 1: Listen, they studied themselves and the on and to start,
Speaker 1: what they had to do was beat the Giants. That
Speaker 1: was an ugly game that obviously turned on the tackle
Speaker 1: that turned the tide. And then they had to go
Speaker 1: take care of business against the Ravens. And take care
Speaker 1: of business they did, and not shockingly the moment the
Speaker 1: Chiefs had close to a competent receiving corps. The offense
Speaker 1: looked good again the last And we don't have to
Speaker 1: do this full history in depth, but it is worth
Speaker 1: mentioning that the Chiefs traded away Tyreek Hill Mahomes snap
Speaker 1: in an offseason changed the way he played based on
Speaker 1: the receivers they had one league MVP. The very next year,
Speaker 1: dealt with more drops than any quarterback literally in modern
Speaker 1: NFL history, figured it out by the playoffs, won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The next year, dealt with the most injured
Speaker 1: wide receiver and running back room in the NFL, got
Speaker 1: all the way to the super Bowl. And the next year,
Speaker 1: which was this year, walked into the season with his
Speaker 1: number one receiver suspended for six games and his number
Speaker 1: two receiver knocked out of Game one three plays in.
Speaker 1: And it looked shaky for a bit. And I told
Speaker 1: you guys that I knew real like I guess insight
Speaker 1: that that Chargers Week one game plan Xavier Worthy was
Speaker 1: the ePIE center of it, and him being knocked out
Speaker 1: three plays in threw everything off. But this, the fatalism
Speaker 1: surrounding the Chiefs from almost everyone else in the media
Speaker 1: was And I don't want to be a scold and
Speaker 1: I don't want to be more annoying than I naturally am.
Speaker 1: But it was embarrassing, and it was so fickle and
Speaker 1: so myopic, my opic, pardon me, as if they don't
Speaker 1: have a Hall of Fame head coach, a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame caliber decoordinator, and the most talented quarterback to ever live,
Speaker 1: that they couldn't figure it out. And it was as
Speaker 1: if they were getting boat raced in these early games,
Speaker 1: or as if they were playing terrible teams and losing.
Speaker 1: Neither were true. Now, I want to make this clear.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Chiefs are, you know, quote fully back.
Speaker 1: If back means being the highest scoring team in the league,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's who they're going to be. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Chiefs have solved all their issues. I
Speaker 1: still think the running back room leaves a lot to
Speaker 1: be desired, and their ability to get pressure on the
Speaker 1: opposing quarterback without sending a blitz at the moment leaves
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired. But you look, if you
Speaker 1: going into the Baltimore game, if you looked around the AFC,
Speaker 1: the only team that really you could say had no
Speaker 1: holes to poke at it was the Chargers going into
Speaker 1: Week four, But they already were dealing with some potentially
Speaker 1: mounting injuries that sadly, they dealt with more of during
Speaker 1: Week four in a game they had no business losing
Speaker 1: but lost, and so the Bills were undefeated. But the
Speaker 1: Bills defense had looked shaky, and they they had and
Speaker 1: have played three consecutive games against just bottom feeders. The
Speaker 1: Ravens were given this huge benefit of the doubt despite
Speaker 1: having the same record as the Chiefs, and then every
Speaker 1: other team that had a good record, like the Steelers
Speaker 1: or the Jags, you had real reason to be concerned about.
Speaker 1: I didn't really sleep last night and then got up
Speaker 1: this morning, took your sister to school, picked your mom
Speaker 1: up from the gym. I don't know if I said
Speaker 1: ten words to either one of them. I then just
Speaker 1: laid on the couch, which I never do in the mornings,
Speaker 1: and tried to like take a nap. That didn't work.
Speaker 1: You know how I can tell your mom knows I'm
Speaker 1: in a teetering emotional place. I could probably, well, here's
Speaker 1: here's how I know that she knows and that she's empathetic,
Speaker 1: because there were she's doing like a whole giant house
Speaker 1: cleaning thing. Prior to I knew it her birthday. Well, no,
Speaker 1: hold on there. Within the ninety second when I came downstairs,
Speaker 1: there were three things I saw her do that she
Speaker 1: had asked me to do previously, and she wasn't even
Speaker 1: mad at me. Yep, I was like, oh, she legit
Speaker 1: feels bad for me right now. She's like, she is
Speaker 1: really showing a real amount of empathy because I was
Speaker 1: supposed to put those coffee cups away. I was supposed
Speaker 1: to throw that backpack away. And she's doing all of it,
Speaker 1: and she's doing with a smile on her face, which
Speaker 1: means she has correctly clocked that I'm not doing great.
Speaker 1: Hopefully this will be my Catharsis. Let's get to Monday
Speaker 1: night football.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Madre. So we saw what Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: did to the Chiefs yesterday. It was also his twenty
Speaker 2: sixth birthday, and he walked out of there with a dub.
Speaker 2: What do you want to talk about first, your prince's
Speaker 2: success or your chief's downfall in this game?
Speaker 1: Okay, as much as I'd like to start with Trevor,
Speaker 1: we have to start with the chief. And here's the
Speaker 1: reason that game is so so much more upsetting than
Speaker 1: the Charger game or the Eagle game, and so much
Speaker 1: more upsetting than any recent memory regular season loss. One
Speaker 1: thing about the Chiefs being the Chiefs is they simply
Speaker 1: do not lose games like that. Now they get out played.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the offense we've seen over the last couple of
Speaker 1: years get stuck in the mud. They you know, there
Speaker 1: are ways that they can lose a game, and other
Speaker 1: people panic or you know, talk about in what bad
Speaker 1: shape the team is in, and I do not because
Speaker 1: of the the full confidence that by the end of
Speaker 1: the year Patrick will have figured stuff out, or the
Speaker 1: team will get healthier or whatever it is. Losing a
Speaker 1: game like that last night, they don't blow two touchdown leads.
Speaker 1: Every other team in the league mate, they don't. They
Speaker 1: did last night. While the Chiefs don't blow teams out
Speaker 1: the way the other excellent teams in football do over
Speaker 1: the last few years, they just simply never beat themselves,
Speaker 1: and yesterday they beat themselves. Yesterday is the first game
Speaker 1: in four years the Chiefs have won the turnover battle
Speaker 1: and lost the game. There have only been three games
Speaker 1: in the last four years where they have won or
Speaker 1: tied the turnover battle and lost the game. Week one
Speaker 1: against Detroit couple of years ago, the pick six Week
Speaker 1: one against the Chargers. This year team turned it over,
Speaker 1: and then this week with a pick six, and so
Speaker 1: all of that just it. It's just a horrible loss.
Speaker 1: All is right in the world again, Ye're pretty happy
Speaker 1: this he's and it's just everything's back the way it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be. You guys, check the latest MVP odds.
Speaker 1: Who's the favorite? Patrick go on hard Rock Bet Check
Speaker 1: the latest Super Bowl odds, who's the favorite the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Everything's everything is the way it's supposed to be. And one,
Speaker 1: and what is so gratifying about this is we don't
Speaker 1: I thought the way this was going to go was
Speaker 1: all the folks that wrote the Chiefs obituary three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: we're going to have to answer for that commentary in
Speaker 1: January instead, because of how even with the loss nine
Speaker 1: days ago by the Chiefs, because of how the rest
Speaker 1: of the league has looked and how Kansas City looked
Speaker 1: on national TV Sunday night, all those folks have to
Speaker 1: eat it immediately. We're not to Halloween yet, and they
Speaker 1: all have to be like, all right, I'm dumb, you're right,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. It's so good it's so much fun. And
Speaker 1: the fact that they're winning this way with the offense
Speaker 1: humming back to you're shocked when they don't get a
Speaker 1: touchdown doing Patrick things and they don't have their best
Speaker 1: offensive weapon not named Patrick Mahomes yet And then you
Speaker 1: just you watch the rest of the league and and
Speaker 1: we'll get to these games. But you watch the Broncos
Speaker 1: do everything they can to try to lose to one
Speaker 1: of the worst teams I've ever seen in the Jets.
Speaker 1: You watch the Chargers do everything they can. Great play
Speaker 1: at the end by the Chargers, but the Chargers struggle
Speaker 1: with a Dolphins team that seems to actively hate each other.
Speaker 1: You watch the Bills what they did last night, the
Speaker 1: Eagles that are ripping themselves a part of the seams,
Speaker 1: the Lions, we saw them play. And the other reason
Speaker 1: I'm happy is, you know the one team, Demonsey, that
Speaker 1: you can hold up next to the Chiefs right now
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, what what are you what's the
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say bad about this team? And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, no, there isn't anything. The Bucks, the Bucks,
Speaker 1: who are my pick going into the year. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1: I had to eat it a lot those first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. I had to come on here talk about
Speaker 1: all these concerns. I had to listen to the great
Speaker 1: my beloved Kevin Wilde's act like Andy Reid and Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey are not essentially family and worry about the fact
Speaker 1: that Andy bumped Travis. I do all that, and less
Speaker 1: than a month later, you know the other way, I
Speaker 1: know we're back because we're back to the refs. We
Speaker 1: are so the Chiefs are.
Speaker 2: Bad about to say.
Speaker 1: The level of whining I expected from some of the
Speaker 1: media and certainly fans. But did you see Kirby Joseph
Speaker 1: First team All Pro last year? Kirby Joseph for the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions sent out twenty four tweets after the game
Speaker 1: whining about the refs. Get it together, Detroit.
Speaker 2: He's one safety study that came out was a study
Speaker 2: that came on that screened.
Speaker 1: By the way, I have never seen Can I just
Speaker 1: say something that that that UTEP I paid the eight
Speaker 1: and here's so that UTEP study that, by the way,
Speaker 1: no one has read. Everyone has just read the news
Speaker 1: article about it. You know how I know because to
Speaker 1: read that study you got to subscribe to that journal,
Speaker 1: which either is going to cost a couple hundred bucks
Speaker 1: or you can pay eighteen dollars for twenty four hour access.
Speaker 1: Guess who paid the eighteen dollars for twenty four hour access.
Speaker 1: This guy hand up. Guess who didn't everyone else. It's
Speaker 1: one of the most ridiculous studies I've ever seen. The
Speaker 1: too long, didn't read version of it is the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have played the most play off games, and therefore their
Speaker 1: opponents have been called for the most penalties. That like,
Speaker 1: give you it is, but I don't even give it.
Speaker 1: I don't care about that. I do care about high
Speaker 1: leverage spots. Again. The games are on TV. Thirty million
Speaker 1: people watch him find Me, Find Me? The the call
Speaker 1: we're all mad about. But I don't even want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. I don't I'm gonna get I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get mad. That's not what today is for. It's not
Speaker 1: for the idiots in El Paso. The so one Lion
Speaker 1: safety took the loss so well he went on tweet storm,
Speaker 1: tweeting out photoshops of Mahomes kissing a raft. The other
Speaker 1: Lion's safety took the loss so well he hit Juju
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster in the face and now he's going to
Speaker 1: have to miss a massive game against Tampa and then
Speaker 1: goes in the locker room and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys watched that video, but it sure seemed like
Speaker 1: he was about to cry while saying and I quote
Speaker 1: they were bullying me out there, and the quote whim
Speaker 1: what you were bullied out there? Is this Sunday night
Speaker 1: football with the big bad Detroit Lions or the Great Recess?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You got bullied? Should Juju
Speaker 1: have to sit by himself at lunch? Is Patrick gonna
Speaker 1: have to miss the not get a juice box tomorrow?
Speaker 1: You got bullied. You're supposed to be the bullies. And
Speaker 1: instead of being the bullies. On fourth and goal, to
Speaker 1: set the tone on your first drive of the game
Speaker 1: and handing the ball to David Montgomery from the six
Speaker 1: inch line, you pop Jared Goff out wide on a
Speaker 1: play because you're that you don't even know the rules
Speaker 1: on and throw them a pass. You got bullied. That's
Speaker 1: a bad look, buddy, That's a bad look. It's where
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Speaker 1: or Virginia. Here are my snap takeaways from it. Okay, so, Patrick,
Speaker 1: for just the second time all year made costly miss.
Speaker 1: The pick that Lattimore got was at the time his
Speaker 1: third pick of the year. Two of what the Jags
Speaker 1: pick and the Latimore pick were, you know, bad throws
Speaker 1: and or bad decisions. And then all later in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, for the second time all year, Patrick made
Speaker 1: a great throat to Travis that Travis bobbled and got picked.
Speaker 1: And because of that, the Commanders were able to hang around. Luckily,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are back to being the Chiefs in full
Speaker 1: and because of that, it flatly did not matter. They
Speaker 1: had a drive in Demondsey, they had a drive in
Speaker 1: this game that was one hundred and nineteen yard touchdown
Speaker 1: drive because they got it started on the six and
Speaker 1: they got penalties on it to where they had to
Speaker 1: recoup those yards. And as I have been and screaming
Speaker 1: from the mountaintops for the better part of two years.
Speaker 1: All Patrick Mahomes needs is a competent offensive line and
Speaker 1: a league average receiving corps, which now they have above
Speaker 1: league average, and now they do have. Demon's a real
Speaker 1: AFC playoff team gauntlet coming up Sunday at the Bills,
Speaker 1: then a bye week, than at the Broncos, than home
Speaker 1: for the Colts, and that will that three game stretch
Speaker 1: will determine the AFC West. It will go a long
Speaker 1: way to determining the AFC East for the Bills purposes,
Speaker 1: and it will go a long way to determining the
Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC. And so I could
Speaker 1: not feel better about where this team is right now.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, by the way, the defense has allowed
Speaker 1: seven points in the last two weeks. Let's get to
Speaker 1: Bills Chiefs. All right, it's that time.
Speaker 2: So the Bills won their Super Bowl against your Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs. Kansas City has heads into the by five
Speaker 2: and four as the eight seed, and the Bills are
Speaker 2: the favorite to win the one seed. How are you
Speaker 2: how do you want to do this one? How are
Speaker 2: you feeling? I mean, well, they did get the first one.
Speaker 2: They got the first one, so now they'll get them
Speaker 2: in the postseason.
Speaker 1: If the user, I mean, that's that's the way it goes.
Speaker 1: But I let me give Buffalo credit because I got listen.
Speaker 1: I picked the Chiefs. I bet the Chiefs. I did
Speaker 1: not think the Bills defense, even if the Chiefs had
Speaker 1: their typical regular season against Buffalo vanilla game plan, I
Speaker 1: did not think the Bills defense would be able to
Speaker 1: keep up with Kansas City. And not only they keep
Speaker 1: up with Kansas City, they dominated most of that game,
Speaker 1: and Josh played great and Patrick played really shaky. That
Speaker 1: was the first game in Patrick's entire career he completed
Speaker 1: less than fifty percent of his passes, and they pressured
Speaker 1: the Chiefs at will, and the Bills were the far
Speaker 1: better team. It was a miracle. The Chiefs had multiple
Speaker 1: possessions down seven in the fourth quarter, and that last
Speaker 1: possession when McDermott chose to go for a field goal,
Speaker 1: was coaching malpractice. You have to punt there, like the
Speaker 1: going for that field goal and giving the Chiefs a
Speaker 1: short field when they're only going to have twenty three
Speaker 1: or twenty two seconds if you punt is just insanity.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he did it, but set that aside,
Speaker 1: Buffalo steadied themselves. Buffalo stayed very alive for their division
Speaker 1: as the Patriots have just a cake schedule moving forward,
Speaker 1: and Buffalo ran the ball great, Josh was awesome, and
Speaker 1: the defense, which was my concern with them, more than
Speaker 1: stepped up. So all of that is true. That can
Speaker 1: be true, while it's also true that this does not
Speaker 1: change my opinion one percent about what a Chiefs Bill's
Speaker 1: playoff game could look like. And I thought the Bill's
Speaker 1: young secondary players Cole Bishop and Xavier Hairston after the
Speaker 1: game talking about the tells they saw on tape was
Speaker 1: a big unforced error. Save that info, kids like, you're
Speaker 1: probably going to have to play this team again, and
Speaker 1: so listen. Kansas City has its work cutout form. But
Speaker 1: the whole if the playoffs started today thing is just
Speaker 1: meaningless to me. The playoffs don't start today. They have
Speaker 1: eight more games to play. If I now, did this
Speaker 1: hurt their chances of winning the division? Sure do I
Speaker 1: still right now? Would I still pick them to win
Speaker 1: the division? I? Would? And I think that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are going.
Speaker 2: To bass them as the Super Bowl favorites.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're the best team, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how long we're going to talk Broncos Chiefs, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to not have time, and the people in
Speaker 1: the chat saying, quit stalling and get to it, guys,
Speaker 1: I am. I do I do about more live media
Speaker 1: than at least sports media than anyone in the field.
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not in I certainly don't
Speaker 1: do more media than everyone who does sports media if
Speaker 1: you include their asinine and ridiculous political talk shows. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to actual sports talk, I do quite
Speaker 1: a bit. I'm not going to be able to run
Speaker 1: from any story, and I certainly can't run from this one.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs went to Denver and arguably their biggest regular
Speaker 1: season game of Patrick's career, and got thoroughly outplayed and
Speaker 1: blew a more than winnable game multiple times, blew a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter lead, and in that singular game, Bo Nicks
Speaker 1: played better than Patrick Mahomes. That is what happened. I
Speaker 1: could not have been more shocked watching a game than
Speaker 1: I was watching that one. Because the Chiefs are healthy
Speaker 1: for the most part. I know they don't have Pacheco.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs right now are a healthier than average NFL
Speaker 1: team for this point the season. They were off a bye,
Speaker 1: they had full motivation, a lot of familiarity with that opponent,
Speaker 1: and Patrick was off and the defense could not get
Speaker 1: a stop when it mattered, and so on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of things, first second play of the game, you
Speaker 1: have Xavier Worthy open for six. Yeah, it's a tough
Speaker 1: throw because it's sixty yards in the air, but those
Speaker 1: are the throws that you know partly made Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, he missed him. That would have been a
Speaker 1: chance to just basically set the tone for the game.
Speaker 1: Immediately missed that opportunity. Obviously. You know they had a
Speaker 1: sequence right before the Patrick interception, and this might have
Speaker 1: been the single biggest swing of the game. Patrick throws
Speaker 1: a little swing pass to Kareem Hunt. He gets down
Speaker 1: to the two yard line. They're gonna have first and
Speaker 1: goal from the two. Juwan Taylor the illegal formation lined
Speaker 1: up too far back. Instead of first and goal from
Speaker 1: the two, it becomes first and fifteen. Two plays later,
Speaker 1: Patrick makes a terrible throw, and instead of at least
Speaker 1: being without the penalty, it's probably gonna be thirteen to
Speaker 1: six with the penalty, it still should be at least
Speaker 1: nine to six throws a pick, Denver dry down and scores.
Speaker 1: Despite all that, Kansas City fights back, scores a couple touchdowns,
Speaker 1: takes the lead, has the ball in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with a lead, go down, score a touchdown, game over
Speaker 1: three and out, then gets the ball back, tie game
Speaker 1: four minutes perfect, not going to cover the three and
Speaker 1: a half, but still drive down the field, kick a
Speaker 1: field goal, win the game three and out. And then
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, first drive of
Speaker 1: the game, first play sack, have them in second and sixteen,
Speaker 1: which turns into third and seven, and give it up.
Speaker 1: Later in that drive, have them in third and eleven
Speaker 1: outside a field goal range, and give it up. And
Speaker 1: on the final drive of the g game, after those
Speaker 1: two offensive three and outs, you instantly have bon knicks
Speaker 1: in third and fifteen and you can't get a pass rush,
Speaker 1: and you give up a twenty yard completion. Three plays later,
Speaker 1: it's third and six, still not in field goal range,
Speaker 1: and you give up a seven yard completion. Denver made
Speaker 1: the high leverage plays, Kansas City did not, and Denver
Speaker 1: now is a stranglehold on the division. And I can
Speaker 1: think what I want and still think about bone Nicks
Speaker 1: and his long term viability as a franchise quarterback. But
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is on Sunday, he played,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best game of his career in
Speaker 1: the second biggest game of his career. The only game
Speaker 1: that would have been bigger is the playoff game, and
Speaker 1: he was excellent. Excellent might be strong. He was good.
Speaker 1: They are five and five. Obviously, if they go seven
Speaker 1: and oh, they're a lock for the playoffs. And at
Speaker 1: seven and oh they actually would have a chance to
Speaker 1: come all the way back and win the division. But
Speaker 1: it would be and even though they're favored in every
Speaker 1: game remaining, given the fact that they're five and five,
Speaker 1: just sitting here saying they're gonna rip off seven straight
Speaker 1: would be overly optimistic, even for me. But seven and
Speaker 1: oh definitely gets them in. Six and one, which would
Speaker 1: put them at eleven and six almost assuredly gets them in.
Speaker 1: But five and two probably does not. And that is
Speaker 1: the thing that I think, if we're gonna have an
Speaker 1: honest conversation about where the Chiefs are, what has to
Speaker 1: be acknowledged is they probably only have one more loss
Speaker 1: to play with, barring a true collapse by the Jags
Speaker 1: or the Chargers. We start with the Chiefs saving their season,
Speaker 1: because while they would not have been mathematically eliminated, and
Speaker 1: I probably would have even convinced myself, well, if they
Speaker 1: just go six and zero down the stretch, they'll make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which what is true. By the way, eleven
Speaker 1: wins almost assuredly will get a man and five and
Speaker 1: six they would have still been alive. For eleven wins,
Speaker 1: that would have been a season ending loss. Dominating the
Speaker 1: time of possession, dominating the yardage battle, and just not
Speaker 1: making championship plays would have signaled that this Chiefs team
Speaker 1: simply doesn't have the juice of Chiefs teams in years past. Thankfully, however,
Speaker 1: they are the Chiefs. They do still have Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and Chris Jones and Andy Reid, and despite fumbling inside
Speaker 1: the five yard line while trailing by eleven in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they then played perfect defensive football, good but
Speaker 1: not great offensive football, and it was enough to potentially
Speaker 1: derail is probably too strong, but really throw a wrench
Speaker 1: in this magical Indie season and give Kansas City a
Speaker 1: chance to in forty eight hours be for the first
Speaker 1: time or just the second time all year two games
Speaker 1: above five hundred really have their head above water and
Speaker 1: be able to have the many buy take a deep
Speaker 1: breath before a very difficult stretch run of final five games,
Speaker 1: two of which are cupcakes, the Tight and the Raiders,
Speaker 1: and three of which are teams fighting for exactly what
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are fighting for, AFC playoff spots and AFC
Speaker 1: playoff seeding with games against the Texans, Chargers and Broncos.
Speaker 1: So how did they do it? Because right now they
Speaker 1: are still the ten seed. They went into the week
Speaker 1: the nine seed, but they come out of the week
Speaker 1: despite the win the ten seed because every because the
Speaker 1: Texans won, the Chargers were off, the Jags won. We'll
Speaker 1: get to those games later. So how did they do it?
Speaker 1: They did it because the defense absolutely shut down start
Speaker 1: to finish Jonathan Taylor in one of the most impressive
Speaker 1: defensive performances any team has had all year. They allowed
Speaker 1: twenty but seven of them were on a drive that
Speaker 1: started at the three thanks to Patrick's interception, and so
Speaker 1: to essentially hold the highest scoring, highest yardage, most efficient
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL to thirteen points without forcing a
Speaker 1: turnover is just a remarkable job by that Chiefs defense,
Speaker 1: and for the Colts to have the ball up eleven
Speaker 1: and go run, pass pass, and then have the ball
Speaker 1: up three and go pass, pass, pass, and then have
Speaker 1: the ball up three again and go pass pass pass,
Speaker 1: before you go to overtime and you go pass, run, run.
Speaker 1: It's just it is a testament to the fact that
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense was able to convince the Colts by
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of this game, you're simply not going
Speaker 1: to get Jonathan Taylor going. But it also and it
Speaker 1: also was a testament to the fact that the Chiefs defense,
Speaker 1: right or wrong, simply said Daniel Jones, go ahead and
Speaker 1: beat us. We don't think you can, and he couldn't.
Speaker 1: And that gave the Chiefs offense and Patrick just enough
Speaker 1: bites at the apple that they were able to overcome
Speaker 1: a really sloppy game, not just the turnovers, but the
Speaker 1: red zone inefficiency, the missed open guys, and the hurky
Speaker 1: jerking nature of the offense. And Rashi Rice in the
Speaker 1: second half of that game, really, for the first time,
Speaker 1: maybe since his suspension, certainly since his first game back
Speaker 1: from the suspension, looked like the player that we saw
Speaker 1: at the end of his rookie year, and the beginning
Speaker 1: of last season before he got injured, which is just
Speaker 1: a dynamic, elite yard after catch player. Xavier Worthy made
Speaker 1: a huge play. Noah freaking Gray made a catch while unconscious,
Speaker 1: which is still one of the more remarkable feats of
Speaker 1: this NFL season, and the Chiefs offense did just enough
Speaker 1: against the lou Anarumo Colts defense to where they're now stabilized.
Speaker 1: By the way that is now four consecutive wins by
Speaker 1: Patrick against lou Anarumo, his alleged kryptonite four wins in
Speaker 1: a row. After losing the first three games he faced
Speaker 1: against him, He's now one four straight. But the story
Speaker 1: of the game is the defense. The fact that the
Speaker 1: Colts had thirteen to three and outs all year going
Speaker 1: into that game, which is remarkable, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how many they had total in the game, but I
Speaker 1: do know they had four straight to end the game.
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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are a rough spot. You've always said, with
Speaker 2: the combination of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, that they've
Speaker 2: always had a shot. But now your Chiefs are six
Speaker 2: and six in two games out of the Wildcard, not
Speaker 2: two games out of the Arrowhead Invitational. With the Wildcard, yep, yeah,
Speaker 2: they have none of the key tie breakers with the
Speaker 2: head to add teams.
Speaker 1: How were are you at the state the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: in right now? I mean, you've got to be really
Speaker 1: concerned that the only way they guarantee themselves a spot
Speaker 1: in the playoffs is by winning out. And I am listen,
Speaker 1: some folks are it is not a mathematical certainty that
Speaker 1: winning out gets them in, but winning out gets them in,
Speaker 1: and so they they are alive and the AFC to me,
Speaker 1: does feel as wide open as it has at any
Speaker 1: point in my life, maybe since eight, the year Brady
Speaker 1: went down with an injury, and it wasn't a great
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning year, and so certainly the most wide open
Speaker 1: it's been in more than a decade. So if they
Speaker 1: were to get hot, play their best football, get in,
Speaker 1: I think that they would be immediately the Vegas favorites
Speaker 1: to win the conference. The problem is getting in is
Speaker 1: going to be very difficult because of those tiebreakers they
Speaker 1: don't have that you mentioned now. If they were to
Speaker 1: beat Houston and then the Chargers, which are their next two,
Speaker 1: then maybe they could lose to Denver and sneak in
Speaker 1: at ten and seven because they would have a tiebreaker
Speaker 1: over the Colts, tiebreaker over the Ravens which won't matter,
Speaker 1: and a tiebreaker over Houston. Maybe there would be a
Speaker 1: path there, But the only certain path is winning out,
Speaker 1: and right now it is very difficult to trust this team.
Speaker 1: Even though Patrick's had at least a five game winning
Speaker 1: streak every year of his career, it is very difficult
Speaker 1: to trust this team to win five straight because quite simply,
Speaker 1: they can't get off the field, and this was a
Speaker 1: problem in Week one against the Chargers, it was a
Speaker 1: problem against Josh Allen, it was a problem against bow Knicks,
Speaker 1: and it was a huge problem against Dak Prescott and
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, where historically what the Chiefs defense would
Speaker 1: do really well is one good run stop on a
Speaker 1: drive to put you in second and nine, one forced
Speaker 1: in completion to put you in third and nine, and
Speaker 1: then dial something up to get you off the field.
Speaker 1: All game long and all season long, this team has
Speaker 1: been forcing third and longs and then been totally unable
Speaker 1: to get off the field. And that is why despite
Speaker 1: Patrick playing at the level that he is, and he
Speaker 1: was brilliant on Thursday, and he's currently he's third in
Speaker 1: the league in yards, fourth in the league in touchdowns,
Speaker 1: for second in the league in QBR, the ESPN stat,
Speaker 1: first in the league in the nerd stat that I
Speaker 1: don't love EPA. He's having an awesome year, but poorly
Speaker 1: time turnovers by the Chiefs in previous games, and the
Speaker 1: total inability all season long, aside from the Colts fourth
Speaker 1: quarter against the Colts to make impact plays on defense
Speaker 1: might wreck the season. It's very precarious. It's the most precarious.
Speaker 1: It's ever been in Kansas City. There's no getting around that. Now.
Speaker 1: With that said, I know myself and I don't think
Speaker 1: it will be unreasonable or irrational that if if they
Speaker 1: win Sunday, and I'm telling you right now with that
Speaker 1: offensive line situation, Chiefs minus three and a half are
Speaker 1: not going to be one of my picks this week.
Speaker 1: If they win Sunday, then I will feel like, all right,
Speaker 1: beat the Chargers now next week and you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to another super Bowl. That's how all feel I will.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're a win away from being a
Speaker 1: win away. If that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And so I I have not my hope. I have
Speaker 1: not given up hope or given up belief, but my
Speaker 1: confidence has been shaken because it should be. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: are six and seven demos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's grim. They have lost now four of their
Speaker 2: last five. After that game with Houston. This is the
Speaker 2: first time I think it kind of looked like the
Speaker 2: cold was affecting the Chiefs. O. Lione was cook, Kelsey
Speaker 2: had some drops, Rice had some drops. Mahomes was limping around.
Speaker 2: Is there any type of silver lining or any type
Speaker 2: of hope that you're holding on to after those last
Speaker 2: game through the end of the season.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, the hope is like, do they
Speaker 1: have a path to the playoffs? And the answer is
Speaker 1: yes technically, but and the simplest way to explain their
Speaker 1: path to the playoffs and then we'll get into what has happened,
Speaker 1: But let me just get this out of the way.
Speaker 1: They have to go four and oh home Chargers at Titans, home,
Speaker 1: Broncos at Raiders. The Colts can't go three and one.
Speaker 1: Not worried about that. They're they're they're I mean, they're
Speaker 1: thinking about starting Philip Rivers. So the Colts part of it,
Speaker 1: to me is easy because the Colts have Seahawks, Niners, Jags, Texans,
Speaker 1: So the the let's just say the Colts are out
Speaker 1: and then the Chargers have to go either ohero and
Speaker 1: four or one in three, with one of the losses
Speaker 1: being to Denver in week eighteen. The simplest way to
Speaker 1: look at can the Chiefs make the playoffs is they
Speaker 1: have to beat the Chargers this weekend. They then have
Speaker 1: to beat the Titans, the Broncos, and the Raiders, and
Speaker 1: the Chargers have to then lose to Denver in week
Speaker 1: eighteen and to either the Texans or the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: week sixteen seventeen. If that happens, the Chiefs make it.
Speaker 1: Chiefs lose. Chiefs eliminated, Patrick injured.
Speaker 2: One of the weirdest, saddest reasons that I've had to
Speaker 2: do for this show. It was very strange. Chiefs eliminated
Speaker 2: from the playoffs after the loss of the Chargers, Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes with the torn ACL and LCL. They're done. Yes, Jayson,
Speaker 2: you said that this was the end of a chapter
Speaker 2: or in the yeah chapter.
Speaker 1: So I'll get into that part in a second. First,
Speaker 1: I want to say this, this is pro football, and
Speaker 1: this Yes, this is my hometown team, and yes I
Speaker 1: have a personal relationship for with Patrick, and so Andy's
Speaker 1: the face of the league and one of the defining
Speaker 1: players in league history. All of those things make this
Speaker 1: extra gutting in the short term, and we'll see what
Speaker 1: it means in the long term. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to overstate the how do I put this, because the
Speaker 1: devastation of the moment is real. The sympathy or empathy
Speaker 1: that folks should have for me, or for Chiefs fans
Speaker 1: or whatever right now, I think that's overstated, because this
Speaker 1: is pro football, and this happens. And it was the
Speaker 1: Chiefs turn to have the year from hell, and it
Speaker 1: was sadly Patrick's turned to roll craps and he was
Speaker 1: fighting through a knee injury. The last few weeks. He
Speaker 1: was on the injury report the last few weeks. You
Speaker 1: saw him laboring. We said after Week one, man, he
Speaker 1: sure ran a lot and sure took a lot of hits.
Speaker 1: And there's a tax to all of it. There just is.
Speaker 1: And there is a cost to the twenty game seasons.
Speaker 1: There is a cost to the offensive line injury. There
Speaker 1: is a cost to Patrick's refusal to sit out a
Speaker 1: game when his knee was obviously bothering him. There is
Speaker 1: a cost to the Chiefs being in must win, gotta
Speaker 1: have it elimination games this early in the season. You
Speaker 1: extend your body, you extend plays, you put yourself out there,
Speaker 1: and this happens. This is not I am sick for Patrick.
Speaker 1: I'm sick for myself, but I'm also the Patriots and
Speaker 1: their fans watch Tom Brady go down the first week
Speaker 1: of a season. The Colts and their fans watched Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning miss a whole year with a neck injury. The
Speaker 1: Packers and their fans watched Pete Aaron Rodgers knocked out
Speaker 1: for half a season with a snapped collar bone, like
Speaker 1: the Ravens twice have had Lamar Lateney get hurt and
Speaker 1: never come back. The Bengals and Joe Burrow have had
Speaker 1: multiple seasons derailed by the guy getting hurt. Like this
Speaker 1: is pro sports and this sport in particular, and so
Speaker 1: I I am trying to balance how much it sucks
Speaker 1: that Patrick is going through this, how much the reality
Speaker 1: of We now have a line of demarcation in Patrick's
Speaker 1: career that's going to be before and after the ACL
Speaker 1: and we're going to see how he recovers from it,
Speaker 1: how he attacks it, how it changes for good or
Speaker 1: for bad, the player that he is, and I and
Speaker 1: I can recognize that and do me a favorite. Guys,
Speaker 1: don't put questions in the rundown near the top of it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: this is a production note while we're doing it. It's
Speaker 1: good I lose my train of thought and I can
Speaker 1: recognize all of that while also not feeling like woe
Speaker 1: is me is appropriate. This has been as good of
Speaker 1: a seven year run as any football fan base has
Speaker 1: ever gotten seven years of conference championship games, five Super
Speaker 1: Bowl appearances, three Super Bowl victories that you can put
Speaker 1: it up against anything any team has done in the
Speaker 1: history of the sport. This seven years matches any seven
Speaker 1: years the Patriots had, any seven years the Niners in
Speaker 1: the eighties had, and the Steelers in the seventies is
Speaker 1: a weird one because they won four super Bowls, but
Speaker 1: they didn't get to the conference championship game every year,
Speaker 1: and they didn't get to five super Bowls. That's a
Speaker 1: tomato tomato thing. You can say that one was better,
Speaker 1: but it's at least in the argument. And now the
Speaker 1: Chiefs received back into football general population and then see
Speaker 1: if they can emerge once again. And I hate that
Speaker 1: I have talked about this comp so much and now
Speaker 1: it is even more apropro apropos. But you guys have
Speaker 1: heard me whenever we have done the Brady Mahomes career stuff,
Speaker 1: talk about in his eight years a starter, Tom blew
Speaker 1: out his knee and then that team had its only
Speaker 1: real low. Obviously, they missed the playoffs the year Tom missed.
Speaker 1: They still won eleven games, by the way, which is
Speaker 1: shout out to how unbelievable the seven pats and eight
Speaker 1: Pats were as a roster, and then in two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine Tom wasn't his best. They won ten games
Speaker 1: and got annihilated in round one of the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: in twenty ten Tom was exceptional. That team was fourteen
Speaker 1: and two, and then they lost one of the weirdest
Speaker 1: playoff games ever to Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: And then in twenty eleven they started their run and
Speaker 1: I don't know what is I here is as far
Speaker 1: as this not being what's the right way to put this?
Speaker 1: In a weird way, I feel worse for Packer fans
Speaker 1: with the Mica injury than for chief fans with the
Speaker 1: Mahomes injury. In this regard, I was wrong about this team.
Speaker 1: They didn't have it this year. And so had they
Speaker 1: been eleven and three in that game, and or I
Speaker 1: guess ten and three because that was right? How do
Speaker 1: I have this right? I'm all scattered ten and three
Speaker 1: going into that game and had looked great. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is another championship level team. I think this would
Speaker 1: sting even more, but it was pretty clear it became
Speaker 1: I came to terms with where this Chiefs team was
Speaker 1: about an hour and a half before Mahomes's injury, the
Speaker 1: final drive of the first half up thirteen to three,
Speaker 1: letting the Chargers drive the length of the field the
Speaker 1: combo platter of not being able to punch in the
Speaker 1: Herbert interception and getting seven, and then later in the
Speaker 1: second quarter allowing them to go the length of the
Speaker 1: field in forty seconds to take what could have been
Speaker 1: a seven teen to three or at the very least
Speaker 1: thirteen to three, or worst case scenario, thirteen to six
Speaker 1: lead into halftime in a must win home game, letting
Speaker 1: the Chargers, whose offense right now is not very good,
Speaker 1: go the length of the field to make it thirteen
Speaker 1: to ten, and then watching the Chiefs offense do nothing
Speaker 1: the entire second half. They didn't have it, And so
Speaker 1: this was not the Chiefs leaving a man, left a
Speaker 1: potential championship on the table because the quarterback got hurt.
Speaker 1: They were not good enough this year, and I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I talked a lot of shit, poked at a lot
Speaker 1: of folks as soon as they looked like the Chiefs. Again,
Speaker 1: that was a brief mirage in who this seam was
Speaker 1: this season, and I do feel demonse that they are
Speaker 1: about to have a mirror held up to some of
Speaker 1: their structural issues that Patrick was holding together over these
Speaker 1: last three weeks of the year. Because I think they
Speaker 1: are going to lose to the Tennessee Titans. I think
Speaker 1: they are going to get beat up by the Denver Broncos. OK,
Speaker 1: and then we'll see Week eighteen Raiders Chiefs in Vegas.
Speaker 1: You know who shows up for that game. But I
Speaker 1: think with these o line injuries, this lack of a
Speaker 1: running game, and one of the bigger disappointments of this
Speaker 1: season is the lack of development from the wide receivers,
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see what this offense looks
Speaker 1: like with bad quarterback play. Because I understand Mahomes numbers
Speaker 1: after the bye. The Cowboys game notwithstanding, were ghastly. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys game is the one thing propping them up. I
Speaker 1: think you're about to see what actual bad quarterback play
Speaker 1: would look like with the team right now with its issues,
Speaker 1: and I do think that there needs to be some
Speaker 1: real soul searching is too strong, but some personal accountability
Speaker 1: by everyone involved in the team, and hey, how do
Speaker 1: we make sure the next time Patrick takes the field
Speaker 1: this team doesn't have as many glaring weaknesses as it
Speaker 1: had in twenty twenty five. And listen, it's hard. There
Speaker 1: is a reason only one team ever's gone to four
Speaker 1: straight Super Bowls. There's a reason only one team ever
Speaker 1: has gone to more than seven straight conference championship games.
Speaker 1: There is a reason only three other teams ever had
Speaker 1: gone to three straight Super Bowls. What the Chiefs accomplished
Speaker 1: was certain things were unprecedented, and certain things were only
Speaker 1: you know, had only been accomplished by one or two
Speaker 1: of the other greatest dynasties ever. But you saw some
Speaker 1: of the where of the late draft picks, of guys
Speaker 1: not developing, of some a draft miss here, a free
Speaker 1: agency missed there, a poorly timed injury there. And they
Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball, and they couldn't rush the passer
Speaker 1: all year long. And these receivers who I like, I
Speaker 1: think Rashid Rice has the ability to be excellent. I
Speaker 1: saw him be exceptional for the second half of his
Speaker 1: rookie season. I know the talent Xavier Worthy has. But
Speaker 1: those guys not developing into fully formed, legitimate man beating
Speaker 1: wide receivers hurt this team a lot too. And so
Speaker 1: those are the things that you address moving forward for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and then you see what version of Patrick
Speaker 1: we have when he comes back. I believe the type
Speaker 1: of competitor and legendary athlete he is, that there is
Speaker 1: a very good chance he comes back as a better
Speaker 1: player as a player that if he especially if he
Speaker 1: can't early on rely as much on his athleticism, is
Speaker 1: even more precise in the pocket and traditional drop back
Speaker 1: since then he's been the last couple of years, and
Speaker 1: so I'm not worried about Patrick, and I would put
Speaker 1: I understand it was a terrible injury and he tore
Speaker 1: two ligaments. I would put all my money on him
Speaker 1: being back for Week one next year. It's right at
Speaker 1: nine months, and I think he'll do it. And what
Speaker 1: will the team around him look like is the question