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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode,

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Speaker 2: very special episode for you, we have the authors of

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Speaker 2: a new book, Cobble, the Untold story of Biden's Fiasco

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Speaker 2: and the American Warriors who Thought to the End. Joining

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Speaker 2: us are Jerry Dan LaVey. He is a work he's

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Speaker 2: working on the Afghan Withdrawal Committee for the House Foreign

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Speaker 2: Affairs Committee. He's speaking today in his capacity as an

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Speaker 2: author of the book. And James Hassen, former Army officer

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Speaker 2: served in Afghanistan and an attorney and a writer. Gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Honored to have you both here. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's great to be here, Buck, thanks for having

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Speaker 3: us back.

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Speaker 2: So James, let's start with you. What do you want

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Speaker 2: ever to know about? Actually, let's start with this what happened,

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Speaker 2: because I'm sure that's what the book's about. What happened

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Speaker 2: in Cobble. Tell me about this withdrawal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the it was nothing short of a horror show.

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Speaker 1: Really, And you could start a few months before the

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Speaker 1: withdrawal in terms of all of the mistakes that the

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Speaker 1: two weeks of the evacuation itself were.

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Speaker 3: Just the American people and American.

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Speaker 1: Soldiers and warriors are their best at the American government

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Speaker 1: at its absolute worst. And these guys were working eighteen

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Speaker 1: twenty hours a day. Some of them didn't sleep for

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Speaker 1: They were exposed at all times to what it never

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Speaker 1: really ended up being a suicide attack that occurred on

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixth, and they knew that, and they continue

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Speaker 1: to try and rescue Americans and rescue our allies at

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Speaker 1: the same time. And throughout it all, they weren't just

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Speaker 1: battling with the crowds.

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Speaker 3: They weren't just scanning through threats.

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Speaker 1: They were trying to overcome the Biden Administration's just toxic

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Speaker 1: combination of ignorance and self assurance that hindered everything at

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Speaker 2: You know, Jerry, we were in I mean I was

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Speaker 2: in Afghanistan over a decade ago. We were there, US military,

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Speaker 2: US forces of different kinds were there for twenty years,

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Speaker 2: and then at the end, It felt like someone just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, you know, obviously a twenty year war, more

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Speaker 4: to do, a swift and immediate military withdrawal, retrograde and

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Speaker 4: doing all of that, cutting the you know what, was

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Speaker 4: a very shaky Afghan military, of course, cutting them off

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Speaker 4: all things that the Afghan military was completely built around

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Speaker 4: and picking September eleventh, the twentieth anniversary, basically just a

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a strategic reason to do this, doing all

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Speaker 4: And of course all these bad decisions lead to a

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Speaker 4: So these are these are real costs, and then of

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Speaker 4: it's air tight, beyond any any doubt at all that

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Speaker 3: But if you allow me, I'd like to piggyback off

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Speaker 1: Was this wasn't the case where nobody saw it coming.

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Speaker 1: They were warned repeatedly that this would happen, and in fact,

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Speaker 3: The State Department refused to.

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Speaker 1: There's there's been a lot of talk about the the

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Speaker 3: They but they were completely ignored.

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Speaker 1: And so while we had only a thousand troops there,

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Speaker 2: Now, there were efforts that if memory serves, that were

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Speaker 1: What? Yeah, I can tell you a lot about it,

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Speaker 3: Of the different groups that were involved.

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Speaker 1: And to give you an example of the state of play,

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Speaker 1: texting veterans groups just to disparate ad hoc groups asking

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Speaker 1: Biden administration getting in the way over and over. I'll

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Speaker 1: storm story he was abandoned. He wrote a Wall Street

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Speaker 3: They didn't have anything to do with that.

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Speaker 1: Those are it veterans networks Intelligence community, uh you know,

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Speaker 3: They they claimed credit for it. They didn't have anything

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Speaker 1: And in fact, they disrupted the organization to such an

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Speaker 3: And I'll let Jerry jump in and provide some of

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Speaker 3: the specifics on that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Joe, Joe Biden's interpreter was of course, was

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Speaker 3: And uh, he this.

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Speaker 4: This interpreter made it out with his family, with his

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Speaker 4: And then, like James said, uh, the Biden administration, you know,

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Speaker 4: They some of the people involved in getting this by

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Speaker 3: The reason why this had to happen is because.

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Speaker 4: The Biden administration did no planning for this scenario whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: The State Department had no ability to get these people out.

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Speaker 4: We were completely overwhelmed at the airport, and we were

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Speaker 3: We can talk about, which which has never been reported yet.

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Speaker 4: But all of this happened. These veteran groups had to

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Speaker 4: if these private groups hadn't sprung up, there would have

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Speaker 4: been a lot more American.

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Speaker 4: Before the bombing, and believe that they had spotted the

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Speaker 4: bomber in the crowd, and when they asked for permission

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Speaker 4: to take the bomber out, that permission was denied because

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Speaker 4: they're higher up didn't know didn't have that authority himself,

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Speaker 4: and never got back to them about who had that

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Speaker 4: authority or who could give it to them. The bomber

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Speaker 4: disappeared into the crowd and conducted his attack shortly after that,

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Speaker 4: and to.

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Speaker 1: This day, the administration has never named the bomber, and

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Speaker 1: they always claimed that there was no they weren't tracking

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Speaker 1: anyone in particular, or they weren't.

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Speaker 3: Aware of the threat that he posed.

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Speaker 1: And that's just completely incorrect for two reasons. Or I

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Speaker 1: could show that's completely false for two reasons. One, we

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Speaker 1: identified who the bomber was, and we took his picture

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Speaker 1: to some of the Marines on the ground and they

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Speaker 1: said that he was in there. They received the same

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Speaker 1: picture of that individual to look out for it.

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Speaker 3: So, combined with everything.

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Speaker 1: Else, we just told you it cannot be the case

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Speaker 1: that the administration had no idea this person was a

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Speaker 1: threat and was not tracking him. And also that the

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Speaker 1: picture was distributed to military service members on the round

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye out for him because he might

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Speaker 1: be conducting a welment.

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen, it's a very important story. I appreciate you taking

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Speaker 2: the time to of course write the book and then

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Speaker 2: to come on here and tell everybody about it. Cobble

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Speaker 2: the untold story of Biden's fiasco and the American warriors

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Speaker 2: who fought to the end. James and Jerry, thanks for

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Speaker 2: being here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot fulk Thanks Buck, appreciate it,