WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: West Coast or Texas Toast? 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:03.480 The following. 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:05.480 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:07.240 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.280 Cowboys. 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:18.079 This He's Talking Cowboys Training Live from Dallas Cowboys Training 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.320 Camp in Oxnard. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:27.400 Callis Street, Ust Kitson Todown. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:32.960 And now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.960 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.440 It's time for a training camp edition of Talking Cowboys, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.440 presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:49.479 the Dallas Cowboys. Live here from Oxnard, California. As today 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.440 we begin week number two of training Camp twenty twenty three. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.200 We've got John Machoda, Nick Harris, and then for the 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.000 first time here in twenty twenty three, we welcome Isaiah 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:00.639 stand Back. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.240 What's going on, buddy, Welcome back back. I was a 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.440 trip out was good man. It was chill, watch a 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:07.520 little movie, you know cool. 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.360 I didn't take a nap. I was right by the bathroom. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.680 You can't sleep when you right by the bathroom. No, no, 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.920 between the smell and people bumping you as a bad combo. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.160 Uh you said movie. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.319 You need film right like you were watching film on 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:20.960 the way up right? 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.080 Oh yeah, well you know you know films just embedded 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.440 in there. I kind of just have like a direct 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.200 connection to the film. You you always keep me updated anyway, Yeah, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.760 you got you got the connection all this my WiFi six. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:32.840 Right there. There you go. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.280 Well, we're glad to have you back. We're glad to 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.520 for the first time you guys have Yeah. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.040 Yeah, yeah, I'm very familiar with their work. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:42.920 Oh for sure, man, appreciate we had some fun. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:44.880 Yeah, I know this is gonna be a lot of 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:49.520 fun because today, gentlemen, the pads come on. Physicality is 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.280 back and training camp. I mean it's it's been great, 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.120 it really has, but it can really begin today. And uh, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.600 there's there's so much to talk about with Mazzie Smith 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.200 put in the ads on. I think this offensive line 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.960 is a question mark right now. And if they can 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.040 put the pads on, maybe they have a better week 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:08.480 this week than they did a week ago. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.000 And still know Zach Martin. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.239 So I want to start with the biggest storyline that 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.320 that you have on your mind. And I'm gonna call 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.600 this just pick one, so each of you will pick 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.600 one and I'll give one in a minute. I'll start 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.639 with you, John, biggest storyline going into week. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.360 Two I mean, I hate to just go back to 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.720 Mazzie Smith because you mentioned him, but I mean we're 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.080 going back to like when he was drafted, Like I 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.240 want to see him in pads, in full pads, and 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.960 this is your first chance to finally get to see that. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.880 And and really because of the fact that as loaded 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.680 is this defense, is that run defense is the what 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.760 I you know, look as the question mark and so 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.040 how much is he going to be able to do? 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:45.560 I mean, I don't expect him to be thrown in 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.720 with the ones, but I want to see what he's 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.919 able to do. It's a little disappointing that Zach martinsen 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.440 out here wanted to see it go against him. But really, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.399 for me, it's in the trenches, both sides of run game, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.200 and that for me, that starts with Mazzi Smith, just 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:57.799 because we haven't got to see him in the Cowboys 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:58.800 uniform with pads on. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.800 I'm looking at the depth of the offensive line, especially 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.200 with Zach Martin not being here. What are the guys 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.320 that step up and fill in for him? And then 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.960 also who are the guys that are rotating in and 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.280 showing good work. We've seen a lot of Josh Ball 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.600 we've seen a lot of Matt farneyak Matt will lets go. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.640 So which of those guys can get going and find 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.480 their stride this week once the pads get on and 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:18.560 it gets a little bit more physical. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.359 Yeah, I'm a piggyback off of you, Nick. I kind 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:21.840 of want to see what this running game is gonna 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.560 look like. That's gonna be the heartbeat. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:23.600 Of his team. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.959 So if these guys can't figure out exactly what they're 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.000 one two or one two three, I don't care whatever 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.680 combo they want to throw. And they watched the Crawford 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.640 fight the other night, Eryl, Yeah, let's not talk about that. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.119 But they need to figure that out because if they can't, 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.960 if they don't have that as their foundational pillar, this 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.360 team's gonna gonna have some issues on offense because everything 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.440 else revolves around that. So I'm interested to see what 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.880 the offensive line is doing. I mean got these running 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.160 backs are gonna kind of work their way into this 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:46.640 new system. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.560 And I'll take the wide receivers because we've seen Jalen 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.400 Tolbert have a great first week to camp, and we've 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:57.160 seen guys like Dennis or excuse me, Brandon Cooks. You 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.240 have Dennis Houston out there, you have ceedee Lamb. I 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.440 want to see them continue to have some success because 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.360 it looked like on Saturday they had to step up 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.280 and they had really a great practice. I want to 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.520 see them continue that, especially Jalen Tolbert. When the physicality's back, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.200 when these corners are able to come up and jam 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.320 at the line of scrimmage and provide a little bit 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:14.520 of a. 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.320 Rub before the release, and then you have something to 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.120 go off of there. So I want to. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.760 See the receivers continue the trajectory that they're on before 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.160 we really can crown these guys as the saviors of camp, 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.719 and Jalen Tolbert as right now who's been probably one. 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:30.719 Of the best to look at. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.560 But you mentioned responsibility, Isaiah, and I know with a 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.200 new play caller, things can get dicey a training camp, 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.240 but things have looked like they've at least come together 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.320 early for Mike McCarthy as to play caller. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.400 Have you seen anything. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.920 Specifically that with this new West Coast, Texas Coast whatever 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.479 you want to look at it. I want to know 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.760 about the concepts because you've run those concepts previously. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.600 I want to know what you've seen. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.520 From some of the stuff that we've looked at in 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.159 terms of camp and practice so far and how it's 0:04:59.160 --> 0:04:59.680 affected this. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.760 Offen So I'm very familiar with the West Coast style offense. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.600 West Coast they call it Texas Toast, whatever they want 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.280 to call its. I'm calling the Texas Toast if that's 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.320 what they want to call call it, so Texas Toast 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:15.640 office exactly. That's you can trademark that. It's very simplistic, 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.920 it's very easy. It's very concept based, so they're able 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.719 to get in and out of the huddle. Everybody has 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.840 full clarity as to what it is that they're supposed 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.360 to be doing. The route concepts are two or three 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.880 man route concepts, so guys are not running out there 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.600 trying to figure out what kind of combination of a 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.000 route they have to run, do have to make any 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.919 adjustments versus coverage? You know what what you have, And 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.120 they're making it reads very easy for Dak where he 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.240 pretty much picks one side or the other based upon 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.280 what the defensive presenting. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.440 So it's gonna allow for those guys to play fast. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.080 It's gonna allow for them to have a bowl of 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.080 confidence when they step to the line of scrimmage and 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.159 be able to execute their assignments because it's really the 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.760 same plays out of different formations, ad motions, ad shifts, 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.000 all those types of things, and it looks more complex 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:54.640 than the defense. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.240 But for them, they'll be able to run it in 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:56.679 their sleep. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:58.480 What have you seen, Nick? 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.960 Has that been fitted anybody or has that hurt anybody 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:02.880 in terms of this offense? 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.479 Definitely, But if it's Dak Prescott, because if you're simplifying 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.279 what this offense is, then it simplifies his job and 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:09.960 it simplifies the receiver shop as well. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:11.520 So whenever they can get on the same page as 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:12.400 quick as possible. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.680 You mentioned it, getting out of the huddle really quick 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.120 and making sure everyone knows what their assignment is right 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:17.599 off rip. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.320 That helps Dak at the end of the day. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.600 When you look at it, John, helping Dak is always 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.000 going to be the number one priority, right, And so 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.960 that seems like it's all good and well. But there 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.640 have been concepts of this used in the past and 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.800 when Kellen Moore was here. What makes this different that 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.960 now Miya McCarthy's the one that's calling the place. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.400 Yeah, I think from just being around talking to the players, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.240 and what they've said is talking about their confidence, like 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.680 you mentioned Isaiah, like they just look at it as 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.480 one of those things where you don't have to think 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.839 as much, they can play faster, and again today having 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.520 the pads come on. That's something I'm looking forward to 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.560 seeing is how much does that all kind of mesh together, 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.440 especially when you got a new guy in Brandon Cooks, 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.760 Like how does he fit with CD and Michael Gallup 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.680 and then obviously what we've seen from Tolbert so far 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.039 looks like he's gonna make a second year jump, So 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.880 kind of all of that together, let's see how crisp 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.400 that looks. Because honestly, what it all comes back to 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.600 everyone's going to point to is the fifteen interceptions that 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.520 gets brought up at nauseum. And I think it's pretty 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.360 obvious that they've talked about players that you know, some 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.800 of that has been some miscommunications, some tip balls and 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.040 things like that, and those are the type of things 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.520 that we'll be able to see, you know, those miscommunications 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.520 things like that, and if they can clean that up 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.920 and you can take that number down, which if you 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.360 look at Dak's career he has, then I think everything 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:33.760 on the offense will figure itself out. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.240 Did you like running the West Coast? Absolutely? Absolutely, It's easy. 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.320 I mean, and I don't know if fans don't want 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.160 to hear that, because fans want to hear complex and 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.840 all this. You know, very diverse is going to be that. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.120 But that doesn't mean that the route. I mean there's 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.280 nine routes, right, there's nine foundational routes. And when you 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.080 can go out there and give concepts and guys know 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.200 exactly where my route is and say, hey, it's not 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:56.520 for me to try to make this thing work. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.360 It's based upon the coverage. 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.560 If I'm open, he's gonna hit me, right, And I know, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.240 based upon the coverage when I set to the line 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.280 of scrimmage, whether or not there's a high probability of 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:05.240 me getting the ball or not. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.679 So there's it just really simplifies things. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.960 And I loved it because they literally come up to 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.040 the line of scrimmage, look one way, Nope, look one way, yep, all. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.560 Right, and you know exactly where to go with the ball. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.280 And then there's always a three levels to most of 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.960 the concepts where there's a you know, deep, you know, intermediate, 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.000 and check down. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.040 So Brian Chattenheimer said the other day he talked about 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.320 the footwork, like how big is that for a quarterback? 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:26.880 To footwork in the West Coast. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.200 It's really big, especially in the shotgun. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.960 Especially in the gun back in the day West Coast, 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.439 you know, most of the guys were underneath center and 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.440 there's one, two, three, and you kind of find your rhythm. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.720 When you're in the gun, you kind of you have 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.760 to really work to set your feet because you're you're 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.200 kind of lazy back there right. You know, you're standing up, 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.600 you're kind of comfortable, you're chilling. You can survey everything 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.200 from six yards back, and if you get lazy with 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:52.160 your feet, those quick throws, they really become inconsistent. So 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.120 you have to be accurate. You have being Your accuracy 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.199 stems from your feet. So Dackson have to do a 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.480 great job of catching the ball from the gun, getting 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.599 his feet sets, stopping pop. If you're running screens, you 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.280 gotta get out your hand quick. If you know, most 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.760 of the three of the concepts are three steps, which 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.480 is from under center, so from gun it's catch and throw, 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.800 so it's really catch, set your feet and get the 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.120 ball out. So his hips are gotta be in position. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.000 His feet are got to be right otherwise you're gonna 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.079 see a lot of balls kind of be inaccurate. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:23.760 So you mentioned wide receivers knowing their responsibility and how 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.360 that helps the offense you mentioned, I mean getting the 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.120 ball out quick. That's gonna vote well for an offensive line. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.080 Is there anybody that this doesn't bode well for on 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:37.280 offense having these West Coast I guess concepts in general 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.520 is maybe the run game is that where this suffers 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:41.000 a little bit. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.400 Not really, I just think that there's gotta be a downside. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.679 I mean there's a pro there's everything for sure. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.199 I mean, so release point from a quarterbacks perspective is 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.720 gonna be important because and that doesn't have that issue. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:55.800 He doesn't have a low release. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:57.640 But you're gonna start seeing a lot a lot of 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.720 teams start being more focused about either I get a 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.200 heck of a rush right off the back or I'm 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:03.640 have to just jump and get my hands up. So 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.160 tip balls does become a concern because now teams are 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.760 going to start jumping up and getting their hands up 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.160 because they know the ball's coming out quick. The other 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.679 thing is a lot of trap type defenses, a lot 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.319 of a lot of defenses where it looks like one 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.040 coverage and they're disguising something and they're gonna come in 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.160 roll into his own So where he was going, say 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:20.760 it was a quarter, say it was a tight end, 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.000 you know, quick quick stick route or a five yard 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.240 out route. Well versus cover three, the guy clears out 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:27.959 on the outside. You hit your tight end all day 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.600 long on the outside, Well, they'll start running traps where 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.360 at a cornerback will act like he's going into cover 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.319 three and come back and then all of a sudden, 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.480 it's a two and he's knocking a mess out of 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.320 your tight end. Right, So you got to really be 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.360 really he has to watch a lot of film because 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.160 people are gonna start trying to trick them, you know. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.240 After the private first couple of games of the year, I. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.120 Think it was interesting that Mike McCarthy really emphasize how, 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:49.800 you know, he wants to get to play call in 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.040 quicker because of that, so that day can get up 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.520 there and get time to diagnose kind of everything that's 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.160 going on pre snap because of that extra time, because 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.240 of exactly what you're saying that you know, there could 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.559 be multiple times before the balls even snapped that they're 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.560 changing things on defense and you have to kind of 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:04.679 react to that. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.120 So that'll be interesting to kind. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.080 Of and talking about the run game. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.240 The run game is going to be able to open 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.160 up a lot more in this offense as well, and 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.720 just being able to have it be more fluids as 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.400 the game goes on and as the season goes on. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.000 You know you're talking about film. You know, as the 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:17.800 season goes on, there's gonna be a lot of things 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.640 that they succeed on weeks one, two, three, and four 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.280 that we're not gonna work fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. So being 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.000 able to have an effective run game that's gonna help 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.559 a lot. I know me and Isaiah talked about it 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.440 quite a bit last night. You know, how does this 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.560 run game help this offense? And I think that's a 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:30.280 big question. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.400 Markin do you think they can have an established run game? 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:33.079 I think they can. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.080 I think they came with Tony Pollard, but there's gonna 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.960 have to be another guy that could be established as well. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.200 Who do you think that guy is? Right now? 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.800 It's a great question, Kyle, That's a great question as 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:43.240 good as. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:44.600 Mine might name be on the roster. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.959 You could you could point at any any ball carrier 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.920 on that roster, and I'd say, okay, like I see, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.760 I see your reasoning. You know, you can look at 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.280 anybody that's not on the roster. It'll be like, okay, 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.280 I see your reasoning. So it's a great question. That's 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:55.680 something I would like to see answered this week. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.040 That's the best thing about the preseason is that you know, 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.559 sometimes he's preseen game can be boring. But I'm looking 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.079 forward to that running back position. Who was Emlie Davis, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.560 duz Vaughn, Ronald Jones, Like who can step into that role? 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.280 As I've said this before, like there's just too much 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.640 riding on this season if one of those guys doesn't 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.040 fill in that number two spot. I mean they've shown 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.800 in thea just look at last year the guys that 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.640 they've gone after when they've needed to fill a spot. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.680 So that's always a possibility. And as we're seeing across 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.880 the league, it's not like people are paying running backs 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.200 a ton of money right now, you know. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.679 And I mean you you bring it up, I mean 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.560 safety position. Two years ago, Malie Cooker signed him in 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.560 training camp because they looked around and said, oh. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.359 Oh need we needed another. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.960 Safety in here, we need somebody to go over the top, 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.960 and he's still on your roster. I think he's had 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.400 a great camp so far. Last year, you needed somebody 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.520 to provide a jolt from special team standpoint, brought in 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.440 Cavante Turpin. You brought in a new kicker after training 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:48.880 camp last year. I mean, you had a whole kicking competition, 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.959 which by the way, that apparently gets started today via 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:52.880 John fossil So. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.200 But then even during the training camp last year, they 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.600 need a linebacker, got Anthony Barr defensive to have got Handkins, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.720 when got t Y Hilton, when they need to wide receiver. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.480 So yeah, I mean, while I'm obviously focused on the 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.520 players that are out here, ye like, don't think for 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.640 a second that they won't go out and make a 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.000 move if they I guessaid. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.200 There's just too much riding on this season. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.760 I want to know if you're breaking any news here. No, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:16.720 I know, I mean would be fun though. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.480 You'd want to see, No, you'd want to see you know, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:20.839 you want to see these running backs and see what 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:21.959 you have from them. You don't want all of a 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.080 sudden going in another direction, like you want to see 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.360 them get out there before the you know, I mean 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:26.400 at least with pads on, you know. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.359 Yeah, And of course that getting started today I think provides. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.679 A little bit of clarity. But until other teams are 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:33.160 trying to. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.320 Take your running backs down, you're not going to really 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.640 get a true test of who's carrying the football and 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.440 how they're going to be in the regular season until 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.079 we get into preseason games. But kind of along those 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.160 same lines, I do have my concerns on the offensive line. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:47.760 We talked about it a little bit up at the 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.480 top of the show. 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We've got overcap overcast clouds today. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.879 But in terms of the defense specifically, is there a 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.080 weak spot on this defense that you've looked at through 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.639 the first week of camp that needs to see a 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.280 step up going into week number two? 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.439 Not through the first week camp. I go back to 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:15.280 the run defense. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.159 If we'll see a lot of that today once the 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.320 pads come on, I'll be able to get a better 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.600 judge of it then, But nothing through the first week 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.440 that I really thought the defense to the first five 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.640 prex has been pretty dominant. To be honest with you, 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.159 you know, if you're a fan coming to some of 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.760 these practices, you probably don't get the real feel for 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.639 Micah Parsons because of the fact that he has to 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.680 just run by the quarterback. You know, he can't really, 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.360 you know, bring the quarterback, which is smart. You don't 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.919 want him tackling Dak Prescott. But yeah, the run defense 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.879 is the only part of this team. Everything else on 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.919 that defense looks like it's going to be elite, so 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:49.440 and maybe the run defense will be too. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.919 We've gotten a really good chance to see the depth 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.639 of this defense, specifically at safety, with Donovan Wilson and 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.720 Israel Wakamu going out, and you know, I guess the 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.800 answer would be maybe the depth of safety, but it 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.679 has has been. Marquise Bell has been fantastic. Tyler Coyle 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.239 had an interception a couple of days ago. So I 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.399 like the depth of safety. The depth I would like 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.560 to see a little bit more as a linebacker, just 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.480 because there's a lot more inexperience in that room. You 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.600 have Demond Clark who's coming into his second year. 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.640 But it's almost. It feels like almost his first year. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.280 You know, we were talking about it with dan Quinn 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:20.720 and he said last year was more of a red 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.080 shirt with him, just because, you know, coming in with 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.280 the injury and getting him up to speed and all 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.040 of that. So you know, this is demonk Clark one 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.120 hundred percent healthy for the first time. Then you also 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.320 got to marveyon Overshown, who was a straight up rookie 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:32.439 so or a true freshman. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:33.320 I guess you would say, so. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:34.880 I would like to see the depth in that room 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:36.879 a little bit more and see how reliable it is. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:38.720 And I guess that's something we'll look at in preseason. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:40.000 Man. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:41.879 I mean this, when you look at the roster on 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:43.520 the defense side of the boy, it looks like the 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.600 Mons stars right on paper. 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:47.440 So on paper they look amazing. 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.199 It really just comes down to the chemistry and we 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.280 know from you know, the last few years, that they 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.680 have built upon that since dan Quinn has touched down, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.080 and I'm looking forward to seeing that continue to grow. 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.480 I'm looking forward to seeing some of the young bloods 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.119 come in and really add their elemented to it. But 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.199 the interior defensive line is always gonna be my My 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:09.159 question mark. Because when you have a roster like the 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.640 Dallas Cowboys do on defense, the one spot that you're 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.600 gonna attack and say, screw it, we're gonna run the ball. 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.800 We're gonna run it, right because passing it is a 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.440 bad situation for us, right, we can't we can't drop back. 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.040 You know, they're gonna get to us. They're gonna blitz 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:23.760 whatever it might be. They don't have to blitz, they 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:25.320 just get They get home with three or four guys. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.760 So you're there, you're going to attack them on the ground. 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.200 So do they have that answer? On the interior defensive line? 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.879 Are those guys gonna be impactful? Big handkas is back, awesome, 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.520 big Manzie. We're gonna see what you can do. 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:35.800 Right. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.160 So that's what I'm looking forward to seeing because every 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.479 other spot is really solid, you know. I mean, like 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.320 to your point, if you had to go beyond that 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.560 linebacker is a little shallow. Outside of that, you know, 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.760 they have safeties that can fill in and those linebacker roles. 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:50.920 So that's not even a big worry for me. So 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:52.640 it really comes down to the interior defensive line. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:54.040 I'll piggyback off that really quick. 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.080 This is the proven week for Manasie Smith, you know, 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:57.959 since he's come in the building. He said, yeah, just 0:19:58.040 --> 0:19:59.840 you know, get at me when the pads come on. Well, 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:01.640 the as a wrong and you're the first round pick 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.680 you were brought into provided immediate help. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.840 So let's see it in action. Let's see that strength 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:06.360 on display. 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.080 Does it make you feel any better the fact that 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.160 you have Jonathan Hankins though, as kind of that mentor, 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:12.880 I put out a tweet the other day where it's 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.040 it feels like every level of the playmakers that are 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.800 youthful playmakers have an experienced veteran to learn from, and 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.920 it's kind of that combination, and I think that's part 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.040 of what plays into the excitement with this Cowboys roster. 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.639 With Mazzie Smith, it's Jonathan Hankins. Bringing him back was 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.560 a huge retainment from last year's team, not only because 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.960 I mean he statistically made that run defense better himself, 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.680 but now you've got a young buck like Mazzie Smith 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.359 that's coming up and continuing to get better underneath him. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.680 Do you feel like that that'll provide more confidence for 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.920 him going into his first day of padded practice and 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:50.080 then of course further along in the training camp, yeah. 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:50.240 For sure. 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.040 I mean, but he's also a first round pick. I 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.479 mean the expectations, he knows what they are. They're obviously 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.080 as high as they get. And I mean we talked 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.040 to you mentioned safety earlier. I mean, look at defensive tackle. 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.280 I mean there's a long gap there between they when 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.359 they've made some significant, you know, investments in that position. 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.120 I mean you can almost go back to Jay Ratliffe 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.639 for how long it's been since they've really had like 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.760 an elite defensive tackle. And so that's why it's so 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.800 exciting to see what Matt Mozzy can do. And and 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.199 you know, it's almost like you don't want to put 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.080 too much on him like the first week, because he's 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:22.760 a first round pick and you're expecting him to come 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.480 in here and and you know, tear things up and 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.480 look really good, and especially with that. 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:32.520 Zach Martin not being out there. But Hankins helps, no question. 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.640 But I think being a first round pick, there there 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.119 is that you know, all eyes are on you. You 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.679 know that, hey, there are high expectations for me to 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.440 come in here and play, well, what. 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.280 Are those expectations like? 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.280 As as a player, Isaiah, Whenever you go in and 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.560 you you can feel the eyes on you, but it's different. 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:51.479 I mean, it's you had eyes on you in Michigan, 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.080 you were one of the bigger brands of college football. 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.160 But it's different whenever you're in the NFL, no matter 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.000 if it's the Cowboys or whoever else, it ends up being. 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:00.720 Yeah, and I can't I can't be for him, but 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.199 I do know that from the team's perspective. As far 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:07.600 as teammates, you know that there's a an adjustment period 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:08.760 and that's. 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.280 What the camp is for. That's what the preseason's for. 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:13.920 So even if he doesn't come out and absolutely kill 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:15.520 it in these first you know, a couple of weeks 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:17.000 of practice, it's like, all right, let me let me 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:18.639 see him in the game, right and you give you 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.200 give those those guys the opportunity to get their feet 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.440 underneath them, to gain their confidence, to adjust to the 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:25.960 speed of the game adjusted. 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.760 It's the size of the game, and then find their way. 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:30.800 The higher to pick. 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.680 The less tolerance people have for you know, I guess 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:36.720 for time span with that, with that window of time, 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:38.720 but I don't think guys are gonna be tripping. Guys 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:40.560 are definitely gonna their intendance of seeing what he can do. 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.320 But when you kind of put the spotlight on top 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.359 of yourself, I mean he's a double spotlight. He had 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.080 one spotlight because the first round pick, and he put 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:48.800 the other spotlight in for another angle. He's like, wait 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.160 till the past come on. So well, like you said, 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:52.800 the pans are all we'll go see prove it. 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.560 It's a double spotlight day, for that's the name of 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.000 the show, Double Spotlight Day. 0:22:57.280 --> 0:22:59.440 I think there's elements. 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.160 To Masie that I'm excited to see, but I said 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:01.880 it at the top. 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.600 Of the show. This is an offensive line. 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.480 Then if we're talking about a week spot on the roster, 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.840 especially without Zach Martin, it's with that being said, I 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:12.840 do think Zach Martin will be back in time for 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.000 week one. Let's not get carried away, but I think 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.320 this is an offensive line that if one guy goes down, 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.760 you're in trouble. And so what do you need to 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.639 see from the offensive line this week? John to really 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:28.360 build your confidence going into at least a padded practice 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:30.199 or two and then going into the preseason. 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.400 I really want to see one of these reserve offensive 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.879 linemen step up. And when I talk about that, the 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:39.520 number one guy is Josh Ball, and during the break 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:41.080 I brought this up because I wanted to make sure 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.800 I was accurate on these This is the big thing 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.760 with me with a Josh Ball and Matt we Letsko 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.959 guys like that, is that one of the biggest successes 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.520 Mike McCarthy had in Green Bay was finding quality offensive linemen. 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.040 Not in the first round. I mean we're talking we 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:59.440 go back. You're looking at guys like TJ Lang fourth round, 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:06.000 you go, let me see here, hold on, hold on, 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.400 let me bring us up. David Baktiari fourth round, JC 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:14.360 Tretdor fourth round, Corey Linsley fifth round. I mean, they're 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:15.800 just there. Was It's not like you just had one. 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:17.639 Now since he's been the head coach. They obviously got 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.320 an undrafted guy and Terren Steele that stepped up, but 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:22.960 now they need another one of those and we'll let's 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:24.120 go and Josh Ball are the. 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:25.520 Two guys I feel everyone's looking at. 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.359 And Ball has been given every opportunity with Martin being out, 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.879 so if you don't have something there, it kind of 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:32.720 goes back to the running back thing. Does that mean 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.240 that you have to go out and maybe sign a 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:35.199 veteran at that position. 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.399 What do you think, Nick, Yeah, like you said, one 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.920 of these reserves, you're gonna have to find some reliability there, 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.960 especially with Zach being out as he is right now, 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.400 There's going to be a time this season when one 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.119 of these five go down with an injury. You know, 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.080 I don't want to wish that on anyone, but that's 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.400 just the way a seventeen game NFL season is right now, 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.080 And how are we able to plug a guy in 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.040 and have reliability in those areas? So you look at 0:24:58.119 --> 0:24:59.840 Josh Ball, you look at Schuma Ydoga. He's got a 0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:02.119 lot snaps as well. Far New York will let's go. 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.600 Does anyone really feel really comfortable about having that guy 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:07.879 start a playoff game or start, you know, for a 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:08.919 foreseeable future. 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:10.480 I don't think the answer is yes right now. 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.040 Isaiah, You've you've told me before this is just our 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:18.160 side conversations and of course talking Cowboys Nation. 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:20.200 This is a friend group. We're all friends here. 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.840 You've told me that if if the Cowboys can't run 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.160 the ball, none of this is gonna work. 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.320 None of this West Coast, all that stuff. 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.080 That sounded great in the first segment, Yep, it's not 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:31.040 gonna work facts. 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.600 Does that start with the offensive line? Yes, it's got 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:34.040 to right. 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:40.240 Yes, I believe this office line has depth. They don't 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.880 have proven depth. And that's what pads are for. That's 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:47.040 what again, that's what preseason's for. Coninuity is absolutely everything 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:51.760 on the offensive line. You can be a lesser individual, 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:57.600 but if you can work in if you work in 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:02.280 chemistry with somebody else right really well at the guard. 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.600 Position specifically, then you're okay. 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.560 You don't have to be an amazing individual guard because 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:14.359 you're not on an island, right, But how you communicate, 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.560 how you guys work, it's a dance right the center 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.400 and right tackle. You know, you're stuck in between those 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.600 guys and you know or whatever left side, whatever you 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.480 want to look at, and you have to figure out 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.399 how we can work together to move these large humans 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:27.920 off the ball. 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:28.600 Right. 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.040 All we're trying to do is create gaps and create seams. 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:32.800 I don't need to be able to grab. I mean, 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:34.200 there's gonna be times where you got to be able 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:35.800 to lock up on somebody and drive them back. 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:36.840 But let's be honest. 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.800 There's been some successful guys that have been on previous 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.560 rosters that weren't world movers on that front, right, But 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.680 they worked really well with the guys that are next 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.359 to them, so that's really all they're looking for now 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.679 with Cowboys. NA should be happy if they went out 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.280 and got somebody who's an absolute dog. 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:53.320 Yes, but guess what that would have. 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.680 Happened already if there were somebody out there, right, guy, 0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.560 the free agents that were out there got snatched up. 0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:59.520 You know, Sean Payton took took a vetuite to that 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.320 day one. Yeah, so now it's just a. 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.119 Matter of saying, Okay, who's gonna step up and who's 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:05.320 gonna fit best together? 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.680 And these guys are gonna have the opportunity to figure 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:07.960 that out. 0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.600 Do you have anybody that you think could step up? 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.359 I mean that questions open to anybody. Because you mentioned 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.119 Josh Ball, I don't think I would put him at 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:18.480 the top of that list as a guy that I 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.960 expected to come up. He's gonna get the opportunities. He's 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:23.840 in a phone booth at guard and we've seen him 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.840 at tackle and struggle to tackle. He's had an up 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.960 and down week this week. I don't know if I 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:30.920 feel confident in him even in a phone booth to 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.480 get the job done. Maybe it's an awesome Richard's, maybe 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:37.199 it's a true Madoga, maybe it's a Matt Will Let's go. 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.360 But is anybody on your mind in terms of who 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:40.600 could step up in that regard? 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:41.439 Absolutely not. 0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.840 Like when they talk about your top five, you know, 0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.520 getting your best five out there with Zach Martin, like 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.800 they have their best five when they have Zach Martin 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.080 and there's a significant drop off off after that. Now, 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.280 can somebody step up during you know some of these practices. 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.440 Can somebody step up during the preseason? 0:27:58.600 --> 0:27:58.840 Sure? 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:00.960 But as I sit here today, no, I didn't feel. 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.800 Terrifies me, absolutely terrified. 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.920 I mostly agree with John one hundred percent. I will say, though, 0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.120 as a caveat, I'm excited to see what Matt Will 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.080 Letsko can do this week, just because last week it 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.000 was a little bit weird for him. He came in, 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.200 he was battling a sickness, missed a day of practice, 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.680 was rotated in at times. So I want to see 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:19.640 him at full speed, especially with the Pats on this week, 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.000 and then we'll go from there. But mostly agree with him. 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.040 There's a significant drop off after the top five. 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.840 You're not replacing him, You're not replacing Ziam But I 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.520 do want to see what let's go. I want to 0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.800 see him. He hasn't had an opportunity to really show 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.760 himself yet, and I'm I'm I'm hopeful that he will 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.840 have that opportunity and now at this camp. 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.880 So put the pass on and see what he does. 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.840 I'm interested to see I mean, awesome Richards, but he's 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.080 mostly going to be at the tackle spot. I want 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.360 to see Chumadoga slide inside because I mean, Stephen Jones 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.280 has talked about him very highly on a couple of occasions. 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.000 I'm interested to see if maybe he fits that mold, 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:58.480 maybe more so than Josh Ball. But overall, it's it's 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.440 not a comfortable situation. It's a little of an uneasy 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.600 feeling for the offensive line because that's where this whole 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.360 thing starts. I mean, that's where it goes. And so 0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.520 maybe you take some of those defensive line when we 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.320 talked about, maybe you put them on the trade block 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.960 and then have some conversations. 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Now, 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.200 just a reminder that I don't need to be a 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.880 real doctor to know that Doctor Pepper is the one 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:41.480 you deserve. 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.280 Welcome back to the final segment of Talking Cowboys, presented 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.680 by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:58.160 Dallas Cowboys. This segment is brought to you by Invisi Line, 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.280 the official smile of the Alis Cowboys. John Machoda, Nick Harris, 0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.960 Isaiah standback. I'm KYLEI omens here from Oxnard, California. What 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.200 a week it has been. We are going into week 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.600 number two here in training camp. We finally have Isaiah along. 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.920 We've got one of our friends, Linda Wells, walking by 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:15.000 us coaching staff. 0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.680 Walks out, get on camera a little bit. There you go. 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:19.760 That's that's somebody we need to get on the show, 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.840 no doubt, but the Mike McCarthy just walk by. We're 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.240 getting ready for practice number one with pads, and so 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.680 the excitement level I think is high today to get 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.640 to see these things. But I want to take one 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.959 final look back to week one. I want to give 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.920 out some smelly stickers. And I said, this is John's 0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.880 first time. It's also Nick's first time for smelly stickers. 0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.360 But Isaiah, I want you to explain it for everybody 0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.880 at home. What is the smelly sticker and how did 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:43.320 it begin? 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.600 So usually smelly stickers usually takes place after a victory, 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.440 right after a nice little victory. Can we bring the 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.280 helmet out, okay? And Kyle brings a nice little little 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.600 scratch of sniff stickers okay, And we lick at the 0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.640 stickers and we attach the significance to the sticker to 0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.840 a player or coach right that had a amazing job 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.600 and made it, did a mazing job at the game, 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.120 or they showed up as a coordinator or a coach, 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:05.800 whatever it might be. 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.240 But they get the highest acthlet's highest credit. 0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.800 From us attaching their name to the smelly sticker, and 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.000 we give the reason name for the sticker, right, and 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.160 then we scratch it, and you know, someone. 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.000 Let's do that. 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.440 But no, it's just it's just a way for us 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.320 to give kudos. It's just like the old school Helmes 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.120 back in the day. Right, you know, he coaches around says, hey, 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.880 good job Nick. You know, here's the reason why you 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.320 get a sticker. We do the same thing for all 0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:27.440 the players around here and coaches. 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.360 All right, you want to start us off on who 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.080 got your smelly sticker for week one of training camp 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:33.680 here in twenty three All right. 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.640 So I wasn't physically here, but I'm reading up, but 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.640 I've been getting a lot of the words, and the 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.160 word is Jayleen Toper is doing his thing. So I'm 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.120 gonna go ahead and give Jaalen Toper the smelly sticker. 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.400 I'm not, I don't have it physically here, get it 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.960 for next week. But I was critical of him last 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.080 year and I understand the pressure that he was under. 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.280 I'm looking forward to him make taking that step, and 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.480 it sounds like he has done so in his first 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.160 part of camp past. Come on, now, let's see if 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:00.920 you can still produce it out there. So I'm excited 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.880 to see that. But for now, smelly sticker goes to 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:03.960 Jayen Tober first. 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.440 Smelly sticker of twenty three going the Jalen Tolbert. Tell 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.760 me if who had that one on the betting odds? Yeah, Isaiah, 0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:11.919 Eric Chris is in the back. 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.399 You have a mic over there? You don't, do you? Oh? 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.120 You do have a mic. I was gonna ask you 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:17.879 for your smelly sticker too, if you if. 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:19.719 You had a mic right now? 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:24.160 Yeah, give me, okay, I'll come back to you. I'll 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:24.680 come back to you. 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.440 All right, Nick, what do you think I'm gonna have 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:27.040 to go nay Shan? 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:27.319 Right. 0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:28.920 There's been a lot of injuries in the in the 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.440 secondary in this first week, and Nashan has been able 0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.400 to step in and he has been fantastic. He had 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.880 a huge interception on a ball that was maybe underthrown 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:37.840 by Deck a little bit, but it was a fantastic play. 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.040 He's showing his link out there on the boundary and 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.879 giving some reliable depth in that area. You know, we're 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.239 talking about having any concerns and depth, there's none in 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:45.840 the secondary. 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:47.200 So he's he's done a good job. 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.040 He's definitely drilled it into our heads that he's going 0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.240 to have a fantastic week in fantastic training camp. 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.160 What do you think so Isaiah hit N had It's 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.080 no question. Number one on the list is Tolvert for sure. 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.120 But I'll go Jalen Marino Cropper just because I didn't 0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.439 really have a ton of expectations coming into the first week, 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.440 and he showed up on a couple of different situations 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:09.920 and so he kind of stood out. Now, if you 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.319 want to talk about somebody, when we were talking about 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.319 Mazi earlier, how it's like he plays a position that 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.560 you know, maybe he'll do some things that might not 0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.040 stand out to the naked I whatever. 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:18.080 I'll tell you what. 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.640 I have not seen anybody make any plays out here 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.359 when Stefan Gilmore has been around them. So I mean 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.160 he hasn't hadny interceptions, but there's nobody making any plays 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:27.799 around him either. 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:29.320 He just don't know. 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.040 I'm really excited to watch him play this season because 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.040 I know he's getting up there in age, but just 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:35.680 the way he takes care of himself, the way he 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.799 goes about his business, I mean, he looks like one. 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:38.759 Of those guys you could give it to. 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.160 But again, he doesn't have the flashy interception or anything 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:42.359 that jumps off the tape yet. 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.120 But he's been impressed about there. 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:45.880 Yeah. Absolutely, I love his demeanor. 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:47.360 We got to talk to him last night just a 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.759 little bit in passing here at camp, and I mean 0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.960 just the way that he carries himself. He's got so 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.160 much confidence, but it's a quiet confidence, which I love 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.239 and I think both him and Trayvon Diggs both share 0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:58.640 that trait. 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:00.160 And even yesterday he was saying. 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:01.960 Yeah, I spent the off day just kind of hanging out, 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.360 just relaxing, rejuvenating, getting ready because he's like, that's a 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.759 big week ahead. You put on the pads, it's gonna 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:10.040 hurt a little bit more. Jake Fergus that said that 0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:14.440 as well. I love that for Stefan Gilmour. All right, Beamer, Okay, Mom's. 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:19.320 Gonna go to steal because he worked his. 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.240 His his peach off since we're doing sticks his daunches 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.480 off off season to get back because it's only been 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.240 eight months I believe, since his injury. 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:26.640 Yep. 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:32.120 And from a standpoint at his position, that's that's my 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:32.840 smell sticker. 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:33.600 Terrence Steele. 0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.480 Yeah, Haley Sutton did a great story on Special Edition 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:40.840 about Terrence Steele, and she said that the average offensive 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.920 lineman return time is eleven months from an ACL injury 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:45.879 and he was back in eight. 0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:47.960 I mean, that's fantastic. 0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.200 And Mike McCarthy talked about the work ethic and what 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.799 he's done day in day out, making sure he's in 0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.680 the building, makes sure he's going through all of his responsibilities. 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.960 I think that that's a good one, very good one. 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:02.239 I'm gonna go a little bit cliche, a little bit mainstream. 0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.799 You guys have have had some great names. I'm gonna 0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.560 give it to Michael Parsons because it doesn't matter if 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.240 it's training camp with pads, training camp without pads, regular season. 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.960 Of course with pads, he still finds a way to 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:15.960 get in the backfield. And so I'm gonna give it 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.239 to to Michael Parsons. He had a great practice on 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.360 Thursday where he had back to back sacks. He was 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.520 in the backfield quite a bit again, just breathing down 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:23.920 Dak's neck on Saturday. 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.120 He's just He's Michael Parsons, and I'm gonna give it. 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.920 I'm gonna give my first smelly sticker to number eleven 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.160 as he continues to to just w recavoc on backfields 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:34.520 and I can't wait to see what he can do 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:35.439 this year. 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.000 All right, more real, quick, and more importantly for our jobs. 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:39.520 Phenomenal quote. 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.160 He never he almost never disappoints when he talks's and 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.680 he did not disappoint this this week either, honestly. 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.200 For real, Isaiah, If if you haven't watched it yet, 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.279 go back and watch Micah's press conference last week. It'll 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:53.040 make you excited to get up and do your job. 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:53.840 Just in general. 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.080 I mean, forget football as I knock a water. 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.400 Bottle off, but the I am a bike, I'm knocking 0:37:58.440 --> 0:37:59.680 stuff over. This is great. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.239 But yeah, no, go back and watch it because it's 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:03.719 it's a lot of fun, all right. 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:05.319 Before we get out of here? 0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:06.480 Stick what was that? 0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.680 You know who does not get the smelly sticker? The 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:11.960 marketing team for blowing off right next to. 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:14.160 Beamer. 0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.160 Beamer saying no thank you to the to the the 0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.480 nice little drill that's happening above us. 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:20.959 I think that's a leaf blower. 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:23.360 It was a drill. 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.320 I thought was after a drill. 0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.640 It's electric. 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.839 From sky. I appreciate the marketing. Yeah, that blows. 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:35.640 Got it all right? 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.600 Before we get going, bang, Mike b. 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.360 Before we get going. One thing you're looking forward to most, 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.480 it can't be the answer of going through pads, it's 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.279 got to be something else then you're looking forward to 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:49.319 most going into week two. 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.040 I want to see what Dak Prescott does in terms 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.080 of spreading the ball around. We've seen him connect on 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.320 a deep ball with Brandon Cooks, a nice one in 0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.120 the red zone with Cede Lamb the other day. I 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:01.680 want to see him kind of spread it around to 0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.719 all those guys and then really see if Tolbert is 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.880 ready for that number four spot when the pads come on. 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:09.719 Those are both really good points. I'm going to kind 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:10.239 of work around that. 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.879 Then Cavante Turpin, I want to see how much they 0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.160 integrate him in the offense this week. You know, if 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.920 he's taken that next step from an off the field 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.239 offensive standpoint, and if he can get some more reps 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.120 this week, that's definitely something I'm looking at. 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.720 I want to see coach McCarthy expand on this offense. 0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:31.279 From what I've seen so far, is very simplistic West Coast, 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:34.080 but West Coast can get very complex as well, so 0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.800 as he starts adding in those those motions and shifts 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.520 and personnel groupings, like how did these guys handle it? 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:45.160 And how does he expand upon his offense. He necessarily 0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.239 won't see it in the preseason games, right, but it 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:48.960 will show up later on in the season. He's still 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.920 that's what they're preparing for. People forget that is vanilla. 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:53.480 The stuff might be in the beginning of training him, 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.400 they were preparing for a season, so they have to 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:56.719 practice those plays now as well. 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:01.560 Yeah, I think I'm looking forward to the growth again 0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.399 of these young secondary players. I mean, we saw from 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.399 Jane Thomas, that's a name we haven't mentioned today, Marquise Bell, 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.680 nay Sean Wright, we've talked about a couple of times. 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:13.400 I think the secondary is. 0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.480 Gonna grow now that they can at least press and 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.080 provide a little bit of physicality at the line of scrimmage. 0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.439 I think it's gonna benefit them quite a bit. 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.799 I think the offensive line is gonna benefit from having 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.560 something to grab onto. But I think I'm most excited 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.319 to see those corners, to see them come up and 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.799 challenge some of these wide receivers. And like I said 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.000 at the beginning of the show, Jalen Tolbert has had 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:35.880 a great camp so far. He earned the smelly sticker 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.279 for a reason. I think all of us could have 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.919 given Jalen Tolbert a smelly sticker. But if he can't 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.560 do it against the physicality and the press is the 0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.880 line of scrimmage, then there's gonna be another hurdle for 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.560 him to cover before we get into the regular season. 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.480 So I want to see how that continues to develop 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.920 and continues to grow throughout training camp. But all right, 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.000 we've got a lot of things going on in training camp. 0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.280 Real quick plug some of the stuff that you're on, John, 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.279 So that way, talking Cowboys fans can can watch and 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:03.240 listen to you. 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.600 Or read your work on the Athletic. Where where can 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:06.080 they find you? 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.680 Yeah, on Twitter at John Michodo j O N M 0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.400 A C H O t A. But yeah, the Athletic. 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.719 If you're not a subscriber, we obviously appreciate it if 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.840 you subscribe. Trying to put up as much content as 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.200 we can, So yeah, I appreciate it. 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:18.839 Nick, Yeah at Nick Harris DC. 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.359 We got a lot of stuff coming out on Dallas 0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.719 Cowboys dot com this week just covering training camp, and 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:24.640 we have the Training Camp Hub too. It's a one 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.439 stop shop for all of the stuff that we're doing 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:27.319 during training camp. 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:28.319 So check that out. 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.399 Hey man, I'm on I standback on IG That's where 0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.000 I've been most of my time. I'm not on the 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.040 X as much as most people are, but yeah, that's 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:36.719 where you can find me. 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:37.279 Y'all hit me up. 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.520 I'll respond yep at Kyle underscore Yeomans, and we're gonna 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:44.040 have Inside Cowboys training Camp and Training Camp live with 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.120 Isaiah all week long. You better better get like a 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.600 cough drop or something, maybe some like cot tea and honey, 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.719 you're about to You're about to get some work out. 0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:53.960 I'm tapped in. What's not tap in? I'm not tapping 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:54.560 out to February. 0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.760 Maybe let's go, Thank goodness, let's do it late February, late, right, 0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.239 late February. All right, that's gonna do it for us 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.240 here on Talking Cowboys. Time for another Talking Cowboys tradition, 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.160 the chopper. We gotta do this at the end of 0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.480 every episode as we go out, John, you gotta do the. 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:13.359 Chop little wrestling. You're not gonna do it, not gonna 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:13.680 hop on. 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:14.600 This sweater is too tight. 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:16.399 I'll work it in. 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.239 For John Machoda, for Nick Harris, for Isaiah stand back. 0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:23.000 I'm Kyle Yoma saying so long here from Oxnard, California. 0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.759 We'll see you on Wednesday with more Talking Cowboys. 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.680 This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.800 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.