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Speaker 6: And now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda,
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Speaker 4: we begin week number two of training Camp twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: We've got John Machoda, Nick Harris, and then for the
Speaker 4: first time here in twenty twenty three, we welcome Isaiah
Speaker 4: stand Back.
Speaker 7: What's going on, buddy, Welcome back back. I was a
Speaker 7: trip out was good man. It was chill, watch a
Speaker 7: little movie, you know cool.
Speaker 5: I didn't take a nap. I was right by the bathroom.
Speaker 5: You can't sleep when you right by the bathroom. No, no,
Speaker 5: between the smell and people bumping you as a bad combo.
Speaker 7: Uh you said movie.
Speaker 1: You need film right like you were watching film on
Speaker 1: the way up right?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well you know you know films just embedded
Speaker 5: in there. I kind of just have like a direct
Speaker 5: connection to the film. You you always keep me updated anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 5: you got you got the connection all this my WiFi six.
Speaker 7: Right there. There you go.
Speaker 4: Well, we're glad to have you back. We're glad to
Speaker 4: for the first time you guys have Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm very familiar with their work.
Speaker 7: Oh for sure, man, appreciate we had some fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know this is gonna be a lot of
Speaker 4: fun because today, gentlemen, the pads come on. Physicality is
Speaker 4: back and training camp. I mean it's it's been great,
Speaker 4: it really has, but it can really begin today. And uh,
Speaker 4: there's there's so much to talk about with Mazzie Smith
Speaker 4: put in the ads on. I think this offensive line
Speaker 4: is a question mark right now. And if they can
Speaker 4: put the pads on, maybe they have a better week
Speaker 4: this week than they did a week ago.
Speaker 7: And still know Zach Martin.
Speaker 4: So I want to start with the biggest storyline that
Speaker 4: that you have on your mind. And I'm gonna call
Speaker 4: this just pick one, so each of you will pick
Speaker 4: one and I'll give one in a minute. I'll start
Speaker 4: with you, John, biggest storyline going into week.
Speaker 9: Two I mean, I hate to just go back to
Speaker 9: Mazzie Smith because you mentioned him, but I mean we're
Speaker 9: going back to like when he was drafted, Like I
Speaker 9: want to see him in pads, in full pads, and
Speaker 9: this is your first chance to finally get to see that.
Speaker 9: And and really because of the fact that as loaded
Speaker 9: is this defense, is that run defense is the what
Speaker 9: I you know, look as the question mark and so
Speaker 9: how much is he going to be able to do?
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't expect him to be thrown in
Speaker 9: with the ones, but I want to see what he's
Speaker 9: able to do. It's a little disappointing that Zach martinsen
Speaker 9: out here wanted to see it go against him. But really,
Speaker 9: for me, it's in the trenches, both sides of run game,
Speaker 9: and that for me, that starts with Mazzi Smith, just
Speaker 9: because we haven't got to see him in the Cowboys
Speaker 9: uniform with pads on.
Speaker 10: I'm looking at the depth of the offensive line, especially
Speaker 10: with Zach Martin not being here. What are the guys
Speaker 10: that step up and fill in for him? And then
Speaker 10: also who are the guys that are rotating in and
Speaker 10: showing good work. We've seen a lot of Josh Ball
Speaker 10: we've seen a lot of Matt farneyak Matt will lets go.
Speaker 10: So which of those guys can get going and find
Speaker 10: their stride this week once the pads get on and
Speaker 10: it gets a little bit more physical.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a piggyback off of you, Nick. I kind
Speaker 5: of want to see what this running game is gonna
Speaker 5: look like. That's gonna be the heartbeat.
Speaker 7: Of his team.
Speaker 5: So if these guys can't figure out exactly what they're
Speaker 5: one two or one two three, I don't care whatever
Speaker 5: combo they want to throw. And they watched the Crawford
Speaker 5: fight the other night, Eryl, Yeah, let's not talk about that.
Speaker 5: But they need to figure that out because if they can't,
Speaker 5: if they don't have that as their foundational pillar, this
Speaker 5: team's gonna gonna have some issues on offense because everything
Speaker 5: else revolves around that. So I'm interested to see what
Speaker 5: the offensive line is doing. I mean got these running
Speaker 5: backs are gonna kind of work their way into this
Speaker 5: new system.
Speaker 4: And I'll take the wide receivers because we've seen Jalen
Speaker 4: Tolbert have a great first week to camp, and we've
Speaker 4: seen guys like Dennis or excuse me, Brandon Cooks. You
Speaker 4: have Dennis Houston out there, you have ceedee Lamb. I
Speaker 4: want to see them continue to have some success because
Speaker 4: it looked like on Saturday they had to step up
Speaker 4: and they had really a great practice. I want to
Speaker 4: see them continue that, especially Jalen Tolbert. When the physicality's back,
Speaker 4: when these corners are able to come up and jam
Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage and provide a little bit
Speaker 4: of a.
Speaker 1: Rub before the release, and then you have something to
Speaker 1: go off of there. So I want to.
Speaker 4: See the receivers continue the trajectory that they're on before
Speaker 4: we really can crown these guys as the saviors of camp,
Speaker 4: and Jalen Tolbert as right now who's been probably one.
Speaker 7: Of the best to look at.
Speaker 4: But you mentioned responsibility, Isaiah, and I know with a
Speaker 4: new play caller, things can get dicey a training camp,
Speaker 4: but things have looked like they've at least come together
Speaker 4: early for Mike McCarthy as to play caller.
Speaker 1: Have you seen anything.
Speaker 4: Specifically that with this new West Coast, Texas Coast whatever
Speaker 4: you want to look at it. I want to know
Speaker 4: about the concepts because you've run those concepts previously.
Speaker 7: I want to know what you've seen.
Speaker 4: From some of the stuff that we've looked at in
Speaker 4: terms of camp and practice so far and how it's
Speaker 4: affected this.
Speaker 5: Offen So I'm very familiar with the West Coast style offense.
Speaker 5: West Coast they call it Texas Toast, whatever they want
Speaker 5: to call its. I'm calling the Texas Toast if that's
Speaker 5: what they want to call call it, so Texas Toast
Speaker 5: office exactly. That's you can trademark that. It's very simplistic,
Speaker 5: it's very easy. It's very concept based, so they're able
Speaker 5: to get in and out of the huddle. Everybody has
Speaker 5: full clarity as to what it is that they're supposed
Speaker 5: to be doing. The route concepts are two or three
Speaker 5: man route concepts, so guys are not running out there
Speaker 5: trying to figure out what kind of combination of a
Speaker 5: route they have to run, do have to make any
Speaker 5: adjustments versus coverage? You know what what you have, And
Speaker 5: they're making it reads very easy for Dak where he
Speaker 5: pretty much picks one side or the other based upon
Speaker 5: what the defensive presenting.
Speaker 7: So it's gonna allow for those guys to play fast.
Speaker 5: It's gonna allow for them to have a bowl of
Speaker 5: confidence when they step to the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 5: be able to execute their assignments because it's really the
Speaker 5: same plays out of different formations, ad motions, ad shifts,
Speaker 5: all those types of things, and it looks more complex
Speaker 5: than the defense.
Speaker 7: But for them, they'll be able to run it in
Speaker 7: their sleep.
Speaker 1: What have you seen, Nick?
Speaker 4: Has that been fitted anybody or has that hurt anybody
Speaker 4: in terms of this offense?
Speaker 10: Definitely, But if it's Dak Prescott, because if you're simplifying
Speaker 10: what this offense is, then it simplifies his job and
Speaker 10: it simplifies the receiver shop as well.
Speaker 11: So whenever they can get on the same page as
Speaker 11: quick as possible.
Speaker 10: You mentioned it, getting out of the huddle really quick
Speaker 10: and making sure everyone knows what their assignment is right
Speaker 10: off rip.
Speaker 11: That helps Dak at the end of the day.
Speaker 4: When you look at it, John, helping Dak is always
Speaker 4: going to be the number one priority, right, And so
Speaker 4: that seems like it's all good and well. But there
Speaker 4: have been concepts of this used in the past and
Speaker 4: when Kellen Moore was here. What makes this different that
Speaker 4: now Miya McCarthy's the one that's calling the place.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think from just being around talking to the players,
Speaker 9: and what they've said is talking about their confidence, like
Speaker 9: you mentioned Isaiah, like they just look at it as
Speaker 9: one of those things where you don't have to think
Speaker 9: as much, they can play faster, and again today having
Speaker 9: the pads come on. That's something I'm looking forward to
Speaker 9: seeing is how much does that all kind of mesh together,
Speaker 9: especially when you got a new guy in Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 9: Like how does he fit with CD and Michael Gallup
Speaker 9: and then obviously what we've seen from Tolbert so far
Speaker 9: looks like he's gonna make a second year jump, So
Speaker 9: kind of all of that together, let's see how crisp
Speaker 9: that looks. Because honestly, what it all comes back to
Speaker 9: everyone's going to point to is the fifteen interceptions that
Speaker 9: gets brought up at nauseum. And I think it's pretty
Speaker 9: obvious that they've talked about players that you know, some
Speaker 9: of that has been some miscommunications, some tip balls and
Speaker 9: things like that, and those are the type of things
Speaker 9: that we'll be able to see, you know, those miscommunications
Speaker 9: things like that, and if they can clean that up
Speaker 9: and you can take that number down, which if you
Speaker 9: look at Dak's career he has, then I think everything
Speaker 9: on the offense will figure itself out.
Speaker 7: Did you like running the West Coast? Absolutely? Absolutely, It's easy.
Speaker 5: I mean, and I don't know if fans don't want
Speaker 5: to hear that, because fans want to hear complex and
Speaker 5: all this. You know, very diverse is going to be that.
Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean that the route. I mean there's
Speaker 5: nine routes, right, there's nine foundational routes. And when you
Speaker 5: can go out there and give concepts and guys know
Speaker 5: exactly where my route is and say, hey, it's not
Speaker 5: for me to try to make this thing work.
Speaker 7: It's based upon the coverage.
Speaker 5: If I'm open, he's gonna hit me, right, And I know,
Speaker 5: based upon the coverage when I set to the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage, whether or not there's a high probability of
Speaker 5: me getting the ball or not.
Speaker 7: So there's it just really simplifies things.
Speaker 5: And I loved it because they literally come up to
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, look one way, Nope, look one way, yep, all.
Speaker 7: Right, and you know exactly where to go with the ball.
Speaker 5: And then there's always a three levels to most of
Speaker 5: the concepts where there's a you know, deep, you know, intermediate,
Speaker 5: and check down.
Speaker 9: So Brian Chattenheimer said the other day he talked about
Speaker 9: the footwork, like how big is that for a quarterback?
Speaker 8: To footwork in the West Coast.
Speaker 7: It's really big, especially in the shotgun.
Speaker 5: Especially in the gun back in the day West Coast,
Speaker 5: you know, most of the guys were underneath center and
Speaker 5: there's one, two, three, and you kind of find your rhythm.
Speaker 5: When you're in the gun, you kind of you have
Speaker 5: to really work to set your feet because you're you're
Speaker 5: kind of lazy back there right. You know, you're standing up,
Speaker 5: you're kind of comfortable, you're chilling. You can survey everything
Speaker 5: from six yards back, and if you get lazy with
Speaker 5: your feet, those quick throws, they really become inconsistent. So
Speaker 5: you have to be accurate. You have being Your accuracy
Speaker 5: stems from your feet. So Dackson have to do a
Speaker 5: great job of catching the ball from the gun, getting
Speaker 5: his feet sets, stopping pop. If you're running screens, you
Speaker 5: gotta get out your hand quick. If you know, most
Speaker 5: of the three of the concepts are three steps, which
Speaker 5: is from under center, so from gun it's catch and throw,
Speaker 5: so it's really catch, set your feet and get the
Speaker 5: ball out. So his hips are gotta be in position.
Speaker 5: His feet are got to be right otherwise you're gonna
Speaker 5: see a lot of balls kind of be inaccurate.
Speaker 4: So you mentioned wide receivers knowing their responsibility and how
Speaker 4: that helps the offense you mentioned, I mean getting the
Speaker 4: ball out quick. That's gonna vote well for an offensive line.
Speaker 4: Is there anybody that this doesn't bode well for on
Speaker 4: offense having these West Coast I guess concepts in general
Speaker 4: is maybe the run game is that where this suffers
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 7: Not really, I just think that there's gotta be a downside.
Speaker 4: I mean there's a pro there's everything for sure.
Speaker 5: I mean, so release point from a quarterbacks perspective is
Speaker 5: gonna be important because and that doesn't have that issue.
Speaker 7: He doesn't have a low release.
Speaker 5: But you're gonna start seeing a lot a lot of
Speaker 5: teams start being more focused about either I get a
Speaker 5: heck of a rush right off the back or I'm
Speaker 5: have to just jump and get my hands up. So
Speaker 5: tip balls does become a concern because now teams are
Speaker 5: going to start jumping up and getting their hands up
Speaker 5: because they know the ball's coming out quick. The other
Speaker 5: thing is a lot of trap type defenses, a lot
Speaker 5: of a lot of defenses where it looks like one
Speaker 5: coverage and they're disguising something and they're gonna come in
Speaker 5: roll into his own So where he was going, say
Speaker 5: it was a quarter, say it was a tight end,
Speaker 5: you know, quick quick stick route or a five yard
Speaker 5: out route. Well versus cover three, the guy clears out
Speaker 5: on the outside. You hit your tight end all day
Speaker 5: long on the outside, Well, they'll start running traps where
Speaker 5: at a cornerback will act like he's going into cover
Speaker 5: three and come back and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: it's a two and he's knocking a mess out of
Speaker 5: your tight end. Right, So you got to really be
Speaker 5: really he has to watch a lot of film because
Speaker 5: people are gonna start trying to trick them, you know.
Speaker 5: After the private first couple of games of the year, I.
Speaker 9: Think it was interesting that Mike McCarthy really emphasize how,
Speaker 9: you know, he wants to get to play call in
Speaker 9: quicker because of that, so that day can get up
Speaker 9: there and get time to diagnose kind of everything that's
Speaker 9: going on pre snap because of that extra time, because
Speaker 9: of exactly what you're saying that you know, there could
Speaker 9: be multiple times before the balls even snapped that they're
Speaker 9: changing things on defense and you have to kind of
Speaker 9: react to that.
Speaker 8: So that'll be interesting to kind.
Speaker 11: Of and talking about the run game.
Speaker 10: The run game is going to be able to open
Speaker 10: up a lot more in this offense as well, and
Speaker 10: just being able to have it be more fluids as
Speaker 10: the game goes on and as the season goes on.
Speaker 10: You know you're talking about film. You know, as the
Speaker 10: season goes on, there's gonna be a lot of things
Speaker 10: that they succeed on weeks one, two, three, and four
Speaker 10: that we're not gonna work fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. So being
Speaker 10: able to have an effective run game that's gonna help
Speaker 10: a lot. I know me and Isaiah talked about it
Speaker 10: quite a bit last night. You know, how does this
Speaker 10: run game help this offense? And I think that's a
Speaker 10: big question.
Speaker 1: Markin do you think they can have an established run game?
Speaker 11: I think they can.
Speaker 10: I think they came with Tony Pollard, but there's gonna
Speaker 10: have to be another guy that could be established as well.
Speaker 1: Who do you think that guy is? Right now?
Speaker 11: It's a great question, Kyle, That's a great question as
Speaker 11: good as.
Speaker 8: Mine might name be on the roster.
Speaker 10: You could you could point at any any ball carrier
Speaker 10: on that roster, and I'd say, okay, like I see,
Speaker 10: I see your reasoning. You know, you can look at
Speaker 10: anybody that's not on the roster. It'll be like, okay,
Speaker 10: I see your reasoning. So it's a great question. That's
Speaker 10: something I would like to see answered this week.
Speaker 9: That's the best thing about the preseason is that you know,
Speaker 9: sometimes he's preseen game can be boring. But I'm looking
Speaker 9: forward to that running back position. Who was Emlie Davis,
Speaker 9: duz Vaughn, Ronald Jones, Like who can step into that role?
Speaker 9: As I've said this before, like there's just too much
Speaker 9: riding on this season if one of those guys doesn't
Speaker 9: fill in that number two spot. I mean they've shown
Speaker 9: in thea just look at last year the guys that
Speaker 9: they've gone after when they've needed to fill a spot.
Speaker 9: So that's always a possibility. And as we're seeing across
Speaker 9: the league, it's not like people are paying running backs
Speaker 9: a ton of money right now, you know.
Speaker 4: And I mean you you bring it up, I mean
Speaker 4: safety position. Two years ago, Malie Cooker signed him in
Speaker 4: training camp because they looked around and said, oh.
Speaker 1: Oh need we needed another.
Speaker 4: Safety in here, we need somebody to go over the top,
Speaker 4: and he's still on your roster. I think he's had
Speaker 4: a great camp so far. Last year, you needed somebody
Speaker 4: to provide a jolt from special team standpoint, brought in
Speaker 4: Cavante Turpin. You brought in a new kicker after training
Speaker 4: camp last year. I mean, you had a whole kicking competition,
Speaker 4: which by the way, that apparently gets started today via
Speaker 4: John fossil So.
Speaker 9: But then even during the training camp last year, they
Speaker 9: need a linebacker, got Anthony Barr defensive to have got Handkins,
Speaker 9: when got t Y Hilton, when they need to wide receiver.
Speaker 9: So yeah, I mean, while I'm obviously focused on the
Speaker 9: players that are out here, ye like, don't think for
Speaker 9: a second that they won't go out and make a
Speaker 9: move if they I guessaid.
Speaker 8: There's just too much riding on this season.
Speaker 1: I want to know if you're breaking any news here. No,
Speaker 1: I know, I mean would be fun though.
Speaker 9: You'd want to see, No, you'd want to see you know,
Speaker 9: you want to see these running backs and see what
Speaker 9: you have from them. You don't want all of a
Speaker 9: sudden going in another direction, like you want to see
Speaker 9: them get out there before the you know, I mean
Speaker 9: at least with pads on, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And of course that getting started today I think provides.
Speaker 7: A little bit of clarity. But until other teams are
Speaker 7: trying to.
Speaker 4: Take your running backs down, you're not going to really
Speaker 4: get a true test of who's carrying the football and
Speaker 4: how they're going to be in the regular season until
Speaker 4: we get into preseason games. But kind of along those
Speaker 4: same lines, I do have my concerns on the offensive line.
Speaker 4: We talked about it a little bit up at the
Speaker 4: top of the show. I want to talk about that
Speaker 4: when we come back after this first break.
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Speaker 4: In this Cowboys roster right now, and it's that somewhere
Speaker 4: that the Cowboys should address before going into the regular
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Speaker 4: I mentioned offensive line. I want to start with the
Speaker 4: defense first. I mean, not everything can be handy dandy.
Speaker 4: Everything's sunshine and rainbows. We've got overcap overcast clouds today.
Speaker 4: But in terms of the defense specifically, is there a
Speaker 4: weak spot on this defense that you've looked at through
Speaker 4: the first week of camp that needs to see a
Speaker 4: step up going into week number two?
Speaker 8: Not through the first week camp. I go back to
Speaker 8: the run defense.
Speaker 9: If we'll see a lot of that today once the
Speaker 9: pads come on, I'll be able to get a better
Speaker 9: judge of it then, But nothing through the first week
Speaker 9: that I really thought the defense to the first five
Speaker 9: prex has been pretty dominant. To be honest with you,
Speaker 9: you know, if you're a fan coming to some of
Speaker 9: these practices, you probably don't get the real feel for
Speaker 9: Micah Parsons because of the fact that he has to
Speaker 9: just run by the quarterback. You know, he can't really,
Speaker 9: you know, bring the quarterback, which is smart. You don't
Speaker 9: want him tackling Dak Prescott. But yeah, the run defense
Speaker 9: is the only part of this team. Everything else on
Speaker 9: that defense looks like it's going to be elite, so
Speaker 9: and maybe the run defense will be too.
Speaker 10: We've gotten a really good chance to see the depth
Speaker 10: of this defense, specifically at safety, with Donovan Wilson and
Speaker 10: Israel Wakamu going out, and you know, I guess the
Speaker 10: answer would be maybe the depth of safety, but it
Speaker 10: has has been. Marquise Bell has been fantastic. Tyler Coyle
Speaker 10: had an interception a couple of days ago. So I
Speaker 10: like the depth of safety. The depth I would like
Speaker 10: to see a little bit more as a linebacker, just
Speaker 10: because there's a lot more inexperience in that room. You
Speaker 10: have Demond Clark who's coming into his second year.
Speaker 11: But it's almost. It feels like almost his first year.
Speaker 10: You know, we were talking about it with dan Quinn
Speaker 10: and he said last year was more of a red
Speaker 10: shirt with him, just because, you know, coming in with
Speaker 10: the injury and getting him up to speed and all
Speaker 10: of that. So you know, this is demonk Clark one
Speaker 10: hundred percent healthy for the first time. Then you also
Speaker 10: got to marveyon Overshown, who was a straight up rookie
Speaker 10: so or a true freshman.
Speaker 11: I guess you would say, so.
Speaker 10: I would like to see the depth in that room
Speaker 10: a little bit more and see how reliable it is.
Speaker 10: And I guess that's something we'll look at in preseason.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 5: I mean this, when you look at the roster on
Speaker 5: the defense side of the boy, it looks like the
Speaker 5: Mons stars right on paper.
Speaker 7: So on paper they look amazing.
Speaker 5: It really just comes down to the chemistry and we
Speaker 5: know from you know, the last few years, that they
Speaker 5: have built upon that since dan Quinn has touched down,
Speaker 5: and I'm looking forward to seeing that continue to grow.
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing some of the young bloods
Speaker 5: come in and really add their elemented to it. But
Speaker 5: the interior defensive line is always gonna be my My
Speaker 5: question mark. Because when you have a roster like the
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys do on defense, the one spot that you're
Speaker 5: gonna attack and say, screw it, we're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 5: We're gonna run it, right because passing it is a
Speaker 5: bad situation for us, right, we can't we can't drop back.
Speaker 5: You know, they're gonna get to us. They're gonna blitz
Speaker 5: whatever it might be. They don't have to blitz, they
Speaker 5: just get They get home with three or four guys.
Speaker 5: So you're there, you're going to attack them on the ground.
Speaker 5: So do they have that answer? On the interior defensive line?
Speaker 5: Are those guys gonna be impactful? Big handkas is back, awesome,
Speaker 5: big Manzie. We're gonna see what you can do.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm looking forward to seeing because every
Speaker 5: other spot is really solid, you know. I mean, like
Speaker 5: to your point, if you had to go beyond that
Speaker 5: linebacker is a little shallow. Outside of that, you know,
Speaker 5: they have safeties that can fill in and those linebacker roles.
Speaker 5: So that's not even a big worry for me. So
Speaker 5: it really comes down to the interior defensive line.
Speaker 11: I'll piggyback off that really quick.
Speaker 10: This is the proven week for Manasie Smith, you know,
Speaker 10: since he's come in the building. He said, yeah, just
Speaker 10: you know, get at me when the pads come on. Well,
Speaker 10: the as a wrong and you're the first round pick
Speaker 10: you were brought into provided immediate help.
Speaker 11: So let's see it in action. Let's see that strength
Speaker 11: on display.
Speaker 4: Does it make you feel any better the fact that
Speaker 4: you have Jonathan Hankins though, as kind of that mentor,
Speaker 4: I put out a tweet the other day where it's
Speaker 4: it feels like every level of the playmakers that are
Speaker 4: youthful playmakers have an experienced veteran to learn from, and
Speaker 4: it's kind of that combination, and I think that's part
Speaker 4: of what plays into the excitement with this Cowboys roster.
Speaker 4: With Mazzie Smith, it's Jonathan Hankins. Bringing him back was
Speaker 4: a huge retainment from last year's team, not only because
Speaker 4: I mean he statistically made that run defense better himself,
Speaker 4: but now you've got a young buck like Mazzie Smith
Speaker 4: that's coming up and continuing to get better underneath him.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like that that'll provide more confidence for
Speaker 4: him going into his first day of padded practice and
Speaker 4: then of course further along in the training camp, yeah.
Speaker 8: For sure.
Speaker 9: I mean, but he's also a first round pick. I
Speaker 9: mean the expectations, he knows what they are. They're obviously
Speaker 9: as high as they get. And I mean we talked
Speaker 9: to you mentioned safety earlier. I mean, look at defensive tackle.
Speaker 9: I mean there's a long gap there between they when
Speaker 9: they've made some significant, you know, investments in that position.
Speaker 9: I mean you can almost go back to Jay Ratliffe
Speaker 9: for how long it's been since they've really had like
Speaker 9: an elite defensive tackle. And so that's why it's so
Speaker 9: exciting to see what Matt Mozzy can do. And and
Speaker 9: you know, it's almost like you don't want to put
Speaker 9: too much on him like the first week, because he's
Speaker 9: a first round pick and you're expecting him to come
Speaker 9: in here and and you know, tear things up and
Speaker 9: look really good, and especially with that.
Speaker 8: Zach Martin not being out there. But Hankins helps, no question.
Speaker 9: But I think being a first round pick, there there
Speaker 9: is that you know, all eyes are on you. You
Speaker 9: know that, hey, there are high expectations for me to
Speaker 9: come in here and play, well, what.
Speaker 1: Are those expectations like?
Speaker 4: As as a player, Isaiah, Whenever you go in and
Speaker 4: you you can feel the eyes on you, but it's different.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's you had eyes on you in Michigan,
Speaker 4: you were one of the bigger brands of college football.
Speaker 4: But it's different whenever you're in the NFL, no matter
Speaker 4: if it's the Cowboys or whoever else, it ends up being.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can't I can't be for him, but
Speaker 5: I do know that from the team's perspective. As far
Speaker 5: as teammates, you know that there's a an adjustment period
Speaker 5: and that's.
Speaker 7: What the camp is for. That's what the preseason's for.
Speaker 5: So even if he doesn't come out and absolutely kill
Speaker 5: it in these first you know, a couple of weeks
Speaker 5: of practice, it's like, all right, let me let me
Speaker 5: see him in the game, right and you give you
Speaker 5: give those those guys the opportunity to get their feet
Speaker 5: underneath them, to gain their confidence, to adjust to the
Speaker 5: speed of the game adjusted.
Speaker 7: It's the size of the game, and then find their way.
Speaker 7: The higher to pick.
Speaker 5: The less tolerance people have for you know, I guess
Speaker 5: for time span with that, with that window of time,
Speaker 5: but I don't think guys are gonna be tripping. Guys
Speaker 5: are definitely gonna their intendance of seeing what he can do.
Speaker 5: But when you kind of put the spotlight on top
Speaker 5: of yourself, I mean he's a double spotlight. He had
Speaker 5: one spotlight because the first round pick, and he put
Speaker 5: the other spotlight in for another angle. He's like, wait
Speaker 5: till the past come on. So well, like you said,
Speaker 5: the pans are all we'll go see prove it.
Speaker 4: It's a double spotlight day, for that's the name of
Speaker 4: the show, Double Spotlight Day.
Speaker 7: I think there's elements.
Speaker 4: To Masie that I'm excited to see, but I said
Speaker 4: it at the top.
Speaker 1: Of the show. This is an offensive line.
Speaker 4: Then if we're talking about a week spot on the roster,
Speaker 4: especially without Zach Martin, it's with that being said, I
Speaker 4: do think Zach Martin will be back in time for
Speaker 4: week one. Let's not get carried away, but I think
Speaker 4: this is an offensive line that if one guy goes down,
Speaker 4: you're in trouble. And so what do you need to
Speaker 4: see from the offensive line this week? John to really
Speaker 4: build your confidence going into at least a padded practice
Speaker 4: or two and then going into the preseason.
Speaker 9: I really want to see one of these reserve offensive
Speaker 9: linemen step up. And when I talk about that, the
Speaker 9: number one guy is Josh Ball, and during the break
Speaker 9: I brought this up because I wanted to make sure
Speaker 9: I was accurate on these This is the big thing
Speaker 9: with me with a Josh Ball and Matt we Letsko
Speaker 9: guys like that, is that one of the biggest successes
Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy had in Green Bay was finding quality offensive linemen.
Speaker 9: Not in the first round. I mean we're talking we
Speaker 9: go back. You're looking at guys like TJ Lang fourth round,
Speaker 9: you go, let me see here, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 9: let me bring us up. David Baktiari fourth round, JC
Speaker 9: Tretdor fourth round, Corey Linsley fifth round. I mean, they're
Speaker 9: just there. Was It's not like you just had one.
Speaker 9: Now since he's been the head coach. They obviously got
Speaker 9: an undrafted guy and Terren Steele that stepped up, but
Speaker 9: now they need another one of those and we'll let's
Speaker 9: go and Josh Ball are the.
Speaker 8: Two guys I feel everyone's looking at.
Speaker 9: And Ball has been given every opportunity with Martin being out,
Speaker 9: so if you don't have something there, it kind of
Speaker 9: goes back to the running back thing. Does that mean
Speaker 9: that you have to go out and maybe sign a
Speaker 9: veteran at that position.
Speaker 10: What do you think, Nick, Yeah, like you said, one
Speaker 10: of these reserves, you're gonna have to find some reliability there,
Speaker 10: especially with Zach being out as he is right now,
Speaker 10: There's going to be a time this season when one
Speaker 10: of these five go down with an injury. You know,
Speaker 10: I don't want to wish that on anyone, but that's
Speaker 10: just the way a seventeen game NFL season is right now,
Speaker 10: And how are we able to plug a guy in
Speaker 10: and have reliability in those areas? So you look at
Speaker 10: Josh Ball, you look at Schuma Ydoga. He's got a
Speaker 10: lot snaps as well. Far New York will let's go.
Speaker 10: Does anyone really feel really comfortable about having that guy
Speaker 10: start a playoff game or start, you know, for a
Speaker 10: foreseeable future.
Speaker 11: I don't think the answer is yes right now.
Speaker 4: Isaiah, You've you've told me before this is just our
Speaker 4: side conversations and of course talking Cowboys Nation.
Speaker 1: This is a friend group. We're all friends here.
Speaker 4: You've told me that if if the Cowboys can't run
Speaker 4: the ball, none of this is gonna work.
Speaker 7: None of this West Coast, all that stuff.
Speaker 4: That sounded great in the first segment, Yep, it's not
Speaker 4: gonna work facts.
Speaker 7: Does that start with the offensive line? Yes, it's got
Speaker 7: to right.
Speaker 5: Yes, I believe this office line has depth. They don't
Speaker 5: have proven depth. And that's what pads are for. That's
Speaker 5: what again, that's what preseason's for. Coninuity is absolutely everything
Speaker 5: on the offensive line. You can be a lesser individual,
Speaker 5: but if you can work in if you work in
Speaker 5: chemistry with somebody else right really well at the guard.
Speaker 7: Position specifically, then you're okay.
Speaker 5: You don't have to be an amazing individual guard because
Speaker 5: you're not on an island, right, But how you communicate,
Speaker 5: how you guys work, it's a dance right the center
Speaker 5: and right tackle. You know, you're stuck in between those
Speaker 5: guys and you know or whatever left side, whatever you
Speaker 5: want to look at, and you have to figure out
Speaker 5: how we can work together to move these large humans
Speaker 5: off the ball.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: All we're trying to do is create gaps and create seams.
Speaker 5: I don't need to be able to grab. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's gonna be times where you got to be able
Speaker 5: to lock up on somebody and drive them back.
Speaker 7: But let's be honest.
Speaker 5: There's been some successful guys that have been on previous
Speaker 5: rosters that weren't world movers on that front, right, But
Speaker 5: they worked really well with the guys that are next
Speaker 5: to them, so that's really all they're looking for now
Speaker 5: with Cowboys. NA should be happy if they went out
Speaker 5: and got somebody who's an absolute dog.
Speaker 7: Yes, but guess what that would have.
Speaker 5: Happened already if there were somebody out there, right, guy,
Speaker 5: the free agents that were out there got snatched up.
Speaker 7: You know, Sean Payton took took a vetuite to that
Speaker 7: day one. Yeah, so now it's just a.
Speaker 5: Matter of saying, Okay, who's gonna step up and who's
Speaker 5: gonna fit best together?
Speaker 7: And these guys are gonna have the opportunity to figure
Speaker 7: that out.
Speaker 4: Do you have anybody that you think could step up?
Speaker 4: I mean that questions open to anybody. Because you mentioned
Speaker 4: Josh Ball, I don't think I would put him at
Speaker 4: the top of that list as a guy that I
Speaker 4: expected to come up. He's gonna get the opportunities. He's
Speaker 4: in a phone booth at guard and we've seen him
Speaker 4: at tackle and struggle to tackle. He's had an up
Speaker 4: and down week this week. I don't know if I
Speaker 4: feel confident in him even in a phone booth to
Speaker 4: get the job done. Maybe it's an awesome Richard's, maybe
Speaker 4: it's a true Madoga, maybe it's a Matt Will Let's go.
Speaker 4: But is anybody on your mind in terms of who
Speaker 4: could step up in that regard?
Speaker 8: Absolutely not.
Speaker 9: Like when they talk about your top five, you know,
Speaker 9: getting your best five out there with Zach Martin, like
Speaker 9: they have their best five when they have Zach Martin
Speaker 9: and there's a significant drop off off after that. Now,
Speaker 9: can somebody step up during you know some of these practices.
Speaker 9: Can somebody step up during the preseason?
Speaker 7: Sure?
Speaker 8: But as I sit here today, no, I didn't feel.
Speaker 1: Terrifies me, absolutely terrified.
Speaker 10: I mostly agree with John one hundred percent. I will say, though,
Speaker 10: as a caveat, I'm excited to see what Matt Will
Speaker 10: Letsko can do this week, just because last week it
Speaker 10: was a little bit weird for him. He came in,
Speaker 10: he was battling a sickness, missed a day of practice,
Speaker 10: was rotated in at times. So I want to see
Speaker 10: him at full speed, especially with the Pats on this week,
Speaker 10: and then we'll go from there. But mostly agree with him.
Speaker 10: There's a significant drop off after the top five.
Speaker 5: You're not replacing him, You're not replacing Ziam But I
Speaker 5: do want to see what let's go. I want to
Speaker 5: see him. He hasn't had an opportunity to really show
Speaker 5: himself yet, and I'm I'm I'm hopeful that he will
Speaker 5: have that opportunity and now at this camp.
Speaker 7: So put the pass on and see what he does.
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see I mean, awesome Richards, but he's
Speaker 4: mostly going to be at the tackle spot. I want
Speaker 4: to see Chumadoga slide inside because I mean, Stephen Jones
Speaker 4: has talked about him very highly on a couple of occasions.
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see if maybe he fits that mold,
Speaker 4: maybe more so than Josh Ball. But overall, it's it's
Speaker 4: not a comfortable situation. It's a little of an uneasy
Speaker 4: feeling for the offensive line because that's where this whole
Speaker 4: thing starts. I mean, that's where it goes. And so
Speaker 4: maybe you take some of those defensive line when we
Speaker 4: talked about, maybe you put them on the trade block
Speaker 4: and then have some conversations. But overall, you got to
Speaker 4: find somewhere, some way, somehow to shure up your offensive
Speaker 4: line in order for this entire West Coast scheme to
Speaker 4: work out in favor. So that'll continue to be a
Speaker 4: focus point. But I do want to say, let's let's
Speaker 4: end on a high note. When we come back, we're
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk.
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Speaker 4: We'll introduce you and tell you what it's about, and
Speaker 4: then we'll give out some smelly stickers for week one
Speaker 4: when we come back with more talking cowboys.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the final segment of Talking Cowboys, presented
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Speaker 4: the official smile of the Alis Cowboys. John Machoda, Nick Harris,
Speaker 4: Isaiah standback. I'm KYLEI omens here from Oxnard, California. What
Speaker 4: a week it has been. We are going into week
Speaker 4: number two here in training camp. We finally have Isaiah along.
Speaker 4: We've got one of our friends, Linda Wells, walking by
Speaker 4: us coaching staff.
Speaker 7: Walks out, get on camera a little bit. There you go.
Speaker 4: That's that's somebody we need to get on the show,
Speaker 4: no doubt, but the Mike McCarthy just walk by. We're
Speaker 4: getting ready for practice number one with pads, and so
Speaker 4: the excitement level I think is high today to get
Speaker 4: to see these things. But I want to take one
Speaker 4: final look back to week one. I want to give
Speaker 4: out some smelly stickers. And I said, this is John's
Speaker 4: first time. It's also Nick's first time for smelly stickers.
Speaker 4: But Isaiah, I want you to explain it for everybody
Speaker 4: at home. What is the smelly sticker and how did
Speaker 4: it begin?
Speaker 5: So usually smelly stickers usually takes place after a victory,
Speaker 5: right after a nice little victory. Can we bring the
Speaker 5: helmet out, okay? And Kyle brings a nice little little
Speaker 5: scratch of sniff stickers okay, And we lick at the
Speaker 5: stickers and we attach the significance to the sticker to
Speaker 5: a player or coach right that had a amazing job
Speaker 5: and made it, did a mazing job at the game,
Speaker 5: or they showed up as a coordinator or a coach,
Speaker 5: whatever it might be.
Speaker 7: But they get the highest acthlet's highest credit.
Speaker 5: From us attaching their name to the smelly sticker, and
Speaker 5: we give the reason name for the sticker, right, and
Speaker 5: then we scratch it, and you know, someone.
Speaker 7: Let's do that.
Speaker 5: But no, it's just it's just a way for us
Speaker 5: to give kudos. It's just like the old school Helmes
Speaker 5: back in the day. Right, you know, he coaches around says, hey,
Speaker 5: good job Nick. You know, here's the reason why you
Speaker 5: get a sticker. We do the same thing for all
Speaker 5: the players around here and coaches.
Speaker 4: All right, you want to start us off on who
Speaker 4: got your smelly sticker for week one of training camp
Speaker 4: here in twenty three All right.
Speaker 5: So I wasn't physically here, but I'm reading up, but
Speaker 5: I've been getting a lot of the words, and the
Speaker 5: word is Jayleen Toper is doing his thing. So I'm
Speaker 5: gonna go ahead and give Jaalen Toper the smelly sticker.
Speaker 5: I'm not, I don't have it physically here, get it
Speaker 5: for next week. But I was critical of him last
Speaker 5: year and I understand the pressure that he was under.
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to him make taking that step, and
Speaker 5: it sounds like he has done so in his first
Speaker 5: part of camp past. Come on, now, let's see if
Speaker 5: you can still produce it out there. So I'm excited
Speaker 5: to see that. But for now, smelly sticker goes to
Speaker 5: Jayen Tober first.
Speaker 4: Smelly sticker of twenty three going the Jalen Tolbert. Tell
Speaker 4: me if who had that one on the betting odds? Yeah, Isaiah,
Speaker 4: Eric Chris is in the back.
Speaker 7: You have a mic over there? You don't, do you? Oh?
Speaker 7: You do have a mic. I was gonna ask you
Speaker 7: for your smelly sticker too, if you if.
Speaker 1: You had a mic right now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, give me, okay, I'll come back to you. I'll
Speaker 7: come back to you.
Speaker 11: All right, Nick, what do you think I'm gonna have
Speaker 11: to go nay Shan?
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 10: There's been a lot of injuries in the in the
Speaker 10: secondary in this first week, and Nashan has been able
Speaker 10: to step in and he has been fantastic. He had
Speaker 10: a huge interception on a ball that was maybe underthrown
Speaker 10: by Deck a little bit, but it was a fantastic play.
Speaker 10: He's showing his link out there on the boundary and
Speaker 10: giving some reliable depth in that area. You know, we're
Speaker 10: talking about having any concerns and depth, there's none in
Speaker 10: the secondary.
Speaker 11: So he's he's done a good job.
Speaker 4: He's definitely drilled it into our heads that he's going
Speaker 4: to have a fantastic week in fantastic training camp.
Speaker 9: What do you think so Isaiah hit N had It's
Speaker 9: no question. Number one on the list is Tolvert for sure.
Speaker 9: But I'll go Jalen Marino Cropper just because I didn't
Speaker 9: really have a ton of expectations coming into the first week,
Speaker 9: and he showed up on a couple of different situations
Speaker 9: and so he kind of stood out. Now, if you
Speaker 9: want to talk about somebody, when we were talking about
Speaker 9: Mazi earlier, how it's like he plays a position that
Speaker 9: you know, maybe he'll do some things that might not
Speaker 9: stand out to the naked I whatever.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 9: I have not seen anybody make any plays out here
Speaker 9: when Stefan Gilmore has been around them. So I mean
Speaker 9: he hasn't hadny interceptions, but there's nobody making any plays
Speaker 9: around him either.
Speaker 8: He just don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm really excited to watch him play this season because
Speaker 9: I know he's getting up there in age, but just
Speaker 9: the way he takes care of himself, the way he
Speaker 9: goes about his business, I mean, he looks like one.
Speaker 8: Of those guys you could give it to.
Speaker 9: But again, he doesn't have the flashy interception or anything
Speaker 9: that jumps off the tape yet.
Speaker 8: But he's been impressed about there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I love his demeanor.
Speaker 4: We got to talk to him last night just a
Speaker 4: little bit in passing here at camp, and I mean
Speaker 4: just the way that he carries himself. He's got so
Speaker 4: much confidence, but it's a quiet confidence, which I love
Speaker 4: and I think both him and Trayvon Diggs both share
Speaker 4: that trait.
Speaker 1: And even yesterday he was saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I spent the off day just kind of hanging out,
Speaker 4: just relaxing, rejuvenating, getting ready because he's like, that's a
Speaker 4: big week ahead. You put on the pads, it's gonna
Speaker 4: hurt a little bit more. Jake Fergus that said that
Speaker 4: as well. I love that for Stefan Gilmour. All right, Beamer, Okay, Mom's.
Speaker 2: Gonna go to steal because he worked his.
Speaker 4: His his peach off since we're doing sticks his daunches
Speaker 4: off off season to get back because it's only been
Speaker 4: eight months I believe, since his injury.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 3: And from a standpoint at his position, that's that's my
Speaker 3: smell sticker.
Speaker 11: Terrence Steele.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Haley Sutton did a great story on Special Edition
Speaker 4: about Terrence Steele, and she said that the average offensive
Speaker 4: lineman return time is eleven months from an ACL injury
Speaker 4: and he was back in eight.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's fantastic.
Speaker 4: And Mike McCarthy talked about the work ethic and what
Speaker 4: he's done day in day out, making sure he's in
Speaker 4: the building, makes sure he's going through all of his responsibilities.
Speaker 4: I think that that's a good one, very good one.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go a little bit cliche, a little bit mainstream.
Speaker 4: You guys have have had some great names. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give it to Michael Parsons because it doesn't matter if
Speaker 4: it's training camp with pads, training camp without pads, regular season.
Speaker 4: Of course with pads, he still finds a way to
Speaker 4: get in the backfield. And so I'm gonna give it
Speaker 4: to to Michael Parsons. He had a great practice on
Speaker 4: Thursday where he had back to back sacks. He was
Speaker 4: in the backfield quite a bit again, just breathing down
Speaker 4: Dak's neck on Saturday.
Speaker 1: He's just He's Michael Parsons, and I'm gonna give it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give my first smelly sticker to number eleven
Speaker 4: as he continues to to just w recavoc on backfields
Speaker 4: and I can't wait to see what he can do
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 8: All right, more real, quick, and more importantly for our jobs.
Speaker 8: Phenomenal quote.
Speaker 9: He never he almost never disappoints when he talks's and
Speaker 9: he did not disappoint this this week either, honestly.
Speaker 4: For real, Isaiah, If if you haven't watched it yet,
Speaker 4: go back and watch Micah's press conference last week. It'll
Speaker 4: make you excited to get up and do your job.
Speaker 4: Just in general.
Speaker 1: I mean, forget football as I knock a water.
Speaker 7: Bottle off, but the I am a bike, I'm knocking
Speaker 7: stuff over. This is great.
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, go back and watch it because it's
Speaker 4: it's a lot of fun, all right.
Speaker 7: Before we get out of here?
Speaker 1: Stick what was that?
Speaker 11: You know who does not get the smelly sticker? The
Speaker 11: marketing team for blowing off right next to.
Speaker 1: Beamer.
Speaker 4: Beamer saying no thank you to the to the the
Speaker 4: nice little drill that's happening above us.
Speaker 8: I think that's a leaf blower.
Speaker 7: It was a drill.
Speaker 1: I thought was after a drill.
Speaker 8: It's electric.
Speaker 7: From sky. I appreciate the marketing. Yeah, that blows.
Speaker 1: Got it all right?
Speaker 7: Before we get going, bang, Mike b.
Speaker 4: Before we get going. One thing you're looking forward to most,
Speaker 4: it can't be the answer of going through pads, it's
Speaker 4: got to be something else then you're looking forward to
Speaker 4: most going into week two.
Speaker 9: I want to see what Dak Prescott does in terms
Speaker 9: of spreading the ball around. We've seen him connect on
Speaker 9: a deep ball with Brandon Cooks, a nice one in
Speaker 9: the red zone with Cede Lamb the other day. I
Speaker 9: want to see him kind of spread it around to
Speaker 9: all those guys and then really see if Tolbert is
Speaker 9: ready for that number four spot when the pads come on.
Speaker 11: Those are both really good points. I'm going to kind
Speaker 11: of work around that.
Speaker 10: Then Cavante Turpin, I want to see how much they
Speaker 10: integrate him in the offense this week. You know, if
Speaker 10: he's taken that next step from an off the field
Speaker 10: offensive standpoint, and if he can get some more reps
Speaker 10: this week, that's definitely something I'm looking at.
Speaker 5: I want to see coach McCarthy expand on this offense.
Speaker 5: From what I've seen so far, is very simplistic West Coast,
Speaker 5: but West Coast can get very complex as well, so
Speaker 5: as he starts adding in those those motions and shifts
Speaker 5: and personnel groupings, like how did these guys handle it?
Speaker 5: And how does he expand upon his offense. He necessarily
Speaker 5: won't see it in the preseason games, right, but it
Speaker 5: will show up later on in the season. He's still
Speaker 5: that's what they're preparing for. People forget that is vanilla.
Speaker 5: The stuff might be in the beginning of training him,
Speaker 5: they were preparing for a season, so they have to
Speaker 5: practice those plays now as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm looking forward to the growth again
Speaker 4: of these young secondary players. I mean, we saw from
Speaker 4: Jane Thomas, that's a name we haven't mentioned today, Marquise Bell,
Speaker 4: nay Sean Wright, we've talked about a couple of times.
Speaker 7: I think the secondary is.
Speaker 4: Gonna grow now that they can at least press and
Speaker 4: provide a little bit of physicality at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna benefit them quite a bit.
Speaker 4: I think the offensive line is gonna benefit from having
Speaker 4: something to grab onto. But I think I'm most excited
Speaker 4: to see those corners, to see them come up and
Speaker 4: challenge some of these wide receivers. And like I said
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the show, Jalen Tolbert has had
Speaker 4: a great camp so far. He earned the smelly sticker
Speaker 4: for a reason. I think all of us could have
Speaker 4: given Jalen Tolbert a smelly sticker. But if he can't
Speaker 4: do it against the physicality and the press is the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, then there's gonna be another hurdle for
Speaker 4: him to cover before we get into the regular season.
Speaker 4: So I want to see how that continues to develop
Speaker 4: and continues to grow throughout training camp. But all right,
Speaker 4: we've got a lot of things going on in training camp.
Speaker 4: Real quick plug some of the stuff that you're on, John,
Speaker 4: So that way, talking Cowboys fans can can watch and
Speaker 4: listen to you.
Speaker 1: Or read your work on the Athletic. Where where can
Speaker 1: they find you?
Speaker 9: Yeah, on Twitter at John Michodo j O N M
Speaker 9: A C H O t A. But yeah, the Athletic.
Speaker 9: If you're not a subscriber, we obviously appreciate it if
Speaker 9: you subscribe. Trying to put up as much content as
Speaker 9: we can, So yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Nick, Yeah at Nick Harris DC.
Speaker 10: We got a lot of stuff coming out on Dallas
Speaker 10: Cowboys dot com this week just covering training camp, and
Speaker 10: we have the Training Camp Hub too. It's a one
Speaker 10: stop shop for all of the stuff that we're doing
Speaker 10: during training camp.
Speaker 11: So check that out.
Speaker 5: Hey man, I'm on I standback on IG That's where
Speaker 5: I've been most of my time. I'm not on the
Speaker 5: X as much as most people are, but yeah, that's
Speaker 5: where you can find me.
Speaker 7: Y'all hit me up.
Speaker 4: I'll respond yep at Kyle underscore Yeomans, and we're gonna
Speaker 4: have Inside Cowboys training Camp and Training Camp live with
Speaker 4: Isaiah all week long. You better better get like a
Speaker 4: cough drop or something, maybe some like cot tea and honey,
Speaker 4: you're about to You're about to get some work out.
Speaker 7: I'm tapped in. What's not tap in? I'm not tapping
Speaker 7: out to February.
Speaker 4: Maybe let's go, Thank goodness, let's do it late February, late, right,
Speaker 4: late February. All right, that's gonna do it for us
Speaker 4: here on Talking Cowboys. Time for another Talking Cowboys tradition,
Speaker 4: the chopper. We gotta do this at the end of
Speaker 4: every episode as we go out, John, you gotta do the.
Speaker 1: Chop little wrestling. You're not gonna do it, not gonna
Speaker 1: hop on.
Speaker 7: This sweater is too tight.
Speaker 8: I'll work it in.
Speaker 4: For John Machoda, for Nick Harris, for Isaiah stand back.
Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yoma saying so long here from Oxnard, California.
Speaker 4: We'll see you on Wednesday with more Talking Cowboys.
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