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Speaker 1: On the bell Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: start changing it with the beck del Cast. Hi, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Bectel Cast. My name is Caitlin Dronte.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jamie Loftus, and we host a podcast

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Speaker 1: about the portrayal of women in movies. We should do.

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Speaker 1: It's called the Becktel Cast. You just like listen to

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Speaker 1: right now? This is it? What if this is a mistake?

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Speaker 1: Is there like an auto play? The app I use

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Speaker 1: in your listing. Yeah, they're like, have you ever heard

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Speaker 1: of these broads? Anyways, now they're talking about spoiler alert.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Never Not Funny with Jimmy Pardo. I'm Jimmy Park.

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Speaker 1: Can we do it? We're talking about tomb Raider. We

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Speaker 1: should do an episode of Never Not Funny an Pardo? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hear that, Jimmy and find us on your podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or we'll just do or we'll do a cover of

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Speaker 1: an episode and he's already done where you'll be Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Pardo and then I'll be the guest Jimmy Pardo. If

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Speaker 1: you could email us what your favorite episode of Never

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Speaker 1: Not Funny with Jimmy Pardo is and then let us know,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll transcribe it and then perform it and

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Speaker 1: then release it as an episode of our podcast. How

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Speaker 1: come it's okay for like bands to do covers of songs,

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Speaker 1: but podcasts can't do covers of other podcast comedians do

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Speaker 1: it around Halloween at like sticker treat and stuff. True,

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Speaker 1: It's like I did a Maria Bamford joke this year.

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Speaker 1: It was very cathartic and fun. Yeah, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I get to do stuff that's better than what I

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Speaker 1: can write. I think that's probably how bands feel when

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Speaker 1: way beyond our personal competence. Yeah. Sure, so, Jimmy Pardo,

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Speaker 1: with Jimmy Parto. I think that that is funny, that

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Speaker 1: don't know why I thought of that, but hey, let

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Speaker 1: me tie it back into our podcast. We just did

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Speaker 1: not pass the Bechdel test because we were talking about

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Speaker 1: a man, Jimmy Pardo. Jimmy Pardo. But I would say

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Speaker 1: that also unless there's other parties that I don't know about.

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Speaker 1: I'm never Not Funny with Jimmy Parto. No episode of

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Speaker 1: Never Not Funny with Jimmy Pardo would pass the Bechtel

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Speaker 1: test until he gets the two of us on it

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Speaker 1: and we don't talk to him. We can ignore him,

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Speaker 1: and we talked to each other. Part O help us

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Speaker 1: on your podcast, but please be silent, okay anyway, So

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Speaker 1: if you don't already know the Bechtel cast, we talked

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Speaker 1: about the portrayal of women in movies using the Bechdel test.

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Speaker 1: It's just a really just a jumping off point, a

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Speaker 1: way to start the conversation. We talked about so much more.

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Speaker 1: But the Becktel test requires that a movie has two

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Speaker 1: female characters who speak to each other about something other

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Speaker 1: than a man. There's a second Jimmy Parto podcast called

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Speaker 1: called Playing Games with Jimmy pro I've never heard of

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Speaker 1: just bring Jimmy Parto up at some point is fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm suspicious of everything and everyone now and I think

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Speaker 1: just talking about just accidentally started talking about Jimmy Parto.

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Speaker 1: Every time we say Jimmy Pardo, Jimmy Parter gives us

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Speaker 1: twenty do So thank you, Jimmy Pardo. We love you,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy part Alright anyway, so yeah, so sorry, We're here

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Speaker 1: to talk about a specific movie, as we always are.

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Speaker 1: We have a guest to help us. She's the host

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Speaker 1: at hyper Rpg and she's a co host of the

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Speaker 1: podcast Nerdificent on How Stuff Works. Thanks for having Danny Fernande.

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Speaker 1: I am enjoying my Celsius sparkling wild berry that you

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Speaker 1: Mike's Hard Lemonade, Jimmy, Let's make something happen playing games

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Speaker 1: We are here to talk about Laura Croft tomb Rat. Yes,

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Speaker 1: much of anything. We don't see any glimpses of her

425
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: having a personality, Like she's just sort of like, yeah,

426
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm interested to talk about that because it's I think

427
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: some of it is like lazy, awful screenwriting, where really

428
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: the only thing we know about out her is that

429
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: she misses Daddy and that's why she does what she

430
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 1: does in life, and that's her central motivation for literally

431
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: everything is Daddy, which is like fuck fine. And then

432
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: the other thing is I'm like curious about Like adapting

433
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: a video game character must be kind of challenging because

434
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 1: you're playing as her right in the day game, So

435
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: there's like an avatar basically, right, and there's so many

436
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: like protagonists avatars that I feel like are kind of

437
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: hollow in terms of personality because you're supposed to be

438
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: plugging yourself in. But if you're adapting dating, you gotta

439
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: day something, try harder. You can't just be like, let's

440
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: make the clothes tighter and hope no one notice, right, Yeah,

441
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: that's because that's I mean, I would love to play

442
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: a game where we go around the room and try

443
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: to describe her personality, because I mean, she had an attitude.

444
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: My kind of a saucy minx is the best way

445
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: I could describe, I think. But even then, like I

446
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: feel like there's just there's just not much there. So

447
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: you have a protect with like no personality who's just

448
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: sort of going through the motions of the story. I mean,

449
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: feel free to disagree with you. I think that she

450
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: I like the fact that she didn't give a shit

451
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: about anyone, Like she wants what she wants and she

452
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: doesn't care about anyone around her. So I did like

453
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: that aspect of it and probably related to it, where

454
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: like men are telling her what to do and she's like, no, no,

455
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, no thanks. So I did

456
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: like that. I did realize that she actually I don't think,

457
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

458
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: I don't think she speaks to a single other woman.

459
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: She speaks to a little girl, but she doesn't speak

460
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: to a single other woman, which is insane. There were

461
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: no women. It's crazy in the whole movie. I remember

462
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: how we don't exist in this planet. In this video game,

463
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: there's one the crazy Verston movie version of New York

464
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: where only white people are there. It's like the crazy

465
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: like this is like the action movie world where there's

466
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: exactly one woman and she's very hot. That's just so yeah,

467
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: like a parallel universe, and it's crazy because it's like,

468
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't you know if we saw if any of

469
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: us saw the movie when it came out, that probably

470
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't register as like, oh, there is not another moment

471
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: because we're so used to seeing movies almost entirely populated

472
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: by men, so we're like, yeah, this is just how

473
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: movies are. I also like the fact that she didn't

474
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: really have a love interest. You know, she kissed not

475
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: really Daniel Craig, like she's trying to save his life

476
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: and a sense can you give someone mouth to mouth

477
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: underwater in the movies? I'm like, aren't you pushing carbon

478
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: dioxide and his mouth and not oxygen? Are you killing him?

479
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: I was also I was like, is this mouth to

480
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: mouth or are they kissing? Like I did not goodbye? No,

481
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, So I like the fact that they didn't.

482
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: I thought that that was semi progressive for two thousand

483
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: and one, that she didn't have some guy she was

484
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: fawning over. I also made note of that, and I

485
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: appreciated that there wasn't some like romantic subplot. Yeah, but yeah,

486
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I didn't mind her action sequences. Actually

487
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: like that a lot. I know that they did make

488
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: her heavily sexual well, and obviously by pattying her tits

489
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: so much that I do wish that she was able

490
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: to use them in combat, But I understand maybe this

491
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: new one weaponize the tits. Yeah, yeah, like one thing

492
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: that they do at the beginning and the end, because

493
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: the last also the last mini sequence of the movie.

494
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: I also was just like, whoa, what is happening here?

495
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: Something that happens at the beginning of the end of

496
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: the movie where it's some one of the guys who

497
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: like lives at her house and is one of her servants.

498
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: You know, she comes down, she's nude, and she's walking

499
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: around nude in front of her employees, which is like

500
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: is this ethical? But whatever, she's walking around nude and

501
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, you're not being much of a

502
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: lady or whatever, like we need you to be a lady,

503
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: and then she's like yeah, yeah, yeah, And then a

504
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: lady should be modest, and she's like a lady should

505
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: be modest. She's like yeah. She's like sometimes it feels

506
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: good to be bad, and you're just like whatever, right,

507
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: And then that comes back at the end. We're in

508
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: the last scene of the movie. She is dressed like

509
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote late Sunday brunch. Yeah, like she has a

510
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: sun hat and a white dress and she goes down

511
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: and the same guy is like, oh, she's a lady,

512
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: which nothing in the movie would really lead you to

513
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: be like and now she's a lady, but she randomly is.

514
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: And then she goes down pays homage to her actual

515
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: daddy's grave, and then goes back upstairs and they're like,

516
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: time to fight another rope. They take a picture of

517
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: her because she's a lady, right, and then they're like,

518
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: time to fight another robot. I'm like, is this just

519
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: First of all, I would hazard to guess the scene

520
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: is just bad and stupid, but the subtext of it

521
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: is like you can be forced into a role you

522
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: don't want and fight a robot Like that wrung a

523
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: little hollow for me. I'm like, oh, I can also

524
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: shoot people in a sun hat, can do it in

525
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: a dress. Looks like it was from Forever one. It

526
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: was not address I don't know. I did notice that

527
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: the screenplay it was build like a woman was build

528
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: at the top, and then it was like two male

529
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: writers underneath, so like three people wrote this, but they

530
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: made sure to put the woman first, like it's her fault.

531
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: We've got yeah, yeah, i'ven thinking that, Yeah, let's implicate

532
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: her in this screenwriting crime. We've got three story by credits,

533
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: which are Sarah B. Cooper, Mike Werb and Michael. And

534
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: then we've got a writing credit for the adaptation from

535
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: Simon West, who was also the director of the movie.

536
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: And then we've got two screenplayed by credits from Patrick

537
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: Massett and John So this Ma and Jimmy as the end.

538
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: As most movies, if you stay to the end of

539
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: the credits, will think, I mean, well, so this is

540
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: an example of a movie with a female protagonist but

541
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: made almost entirely by men. So it's gonna be coming

542
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: from a man's first active in terms of like writer, director,

543
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff, except for one story by

544
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: credit from a woman. But men are largely responsible for

545
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: crafting the story of Craft and we see hints of

546
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: that all throughout the movie, especially, I mean we already

547
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: touched on this, but like Laura Croft's character is its

548
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: hyper sexualized, like from minute one, even like you said,

549
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: the scene where she's fighting the robot in the verious

550
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: first sequence, on paper, that's probably a fine scene, but

551
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: when we see it realized on screen, you see her

552
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: in her outfit, which is this tiny little tank top

553
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: and her giant pointy boobs that like, if you're doing that,

554
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: you would be wearing a sport s bra you're not

555
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: going to be wearing this like bra that like makes

556
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: your I don't know, sorry to body a big women,

557
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: but like it just is so unpractical that the tiny

558
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: tiny shorts that she's wearing like these giant combat boots,

559
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: and then like just the framing of how the framing

560
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: male gaze, shots of her hips, shots of her ass.

561
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Like there's a point where like she's sitting on the

562
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: ground and then she spreads her legs and then like

563
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: the robot like hand comes down and smashes in between

564
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: her legs. Just to even like make the male gaze

565
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: thing more egregious, there's a number of action scenes where

566
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: Laura Croft, I mean she is doing things once you

567
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: know that whole scene where she's just like on a

568
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: log and everyone's like, whoa, she's on that swing and

569
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: the swing dog has to poke something and then the

570
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: illuminatis released wasn't totally true what's happening there, But she's

571
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: on the log and there, but there's like action scenes

572
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: where she's surrounded by men who are just kind of

573
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: watching literally the male gaze. I'm just like, well, where

574
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: it's that action thing that we come up with again

575
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: and again we'll reference that mixed me use the article

576
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: again where it's like, anytime a woman does something that

577
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: implies that she's capable in an action way, cut to

578
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: a shot of a man being like, what she can do?

579
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: The thing like that? That shot happens for I some

580
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: times in this totally well also because I mean, her

581
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: choreography is like sexualized. Also, like she's doing a lot

582
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: of like flips and like you wouldn't see a male

583
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: action hero fight the same way as you see her,

584
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: Like men are just like flipping around and like being

585
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: all like willowy and writhing the way that she is,

586
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of her fight choreography. So I feel

587
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: like there's this idea in Hollywood that action movies are

588
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: for men, and men aren't gonna want to see an

589
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: action movie that's starring a woman unless she's hyper sexualized

590
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: and she like looks like a supermodel basically. So that

591
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: was this idea that this movie for sure perpetuates, one

592
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: that sends a message to women that's basically like, oh,

593
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: if you want to do anything physical, you have to

594
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: look like your mid orgasm. Sorry, you have to be

595
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: as hell. But I feel like she's I mean, aside

596
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: from this character Angelina Jolie herself is hyper sexualized most

597
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: of her roles, especially at this time, but then in general,

598
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: her action in Mr. And Mrs Smith it's all sexual branded.

599
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: That's like a heavily sexual tension where she met her

600
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: husband that was someone else's husband. But sorry, Jennifer, that's okay,

601
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: life happened. They're hanging out again. Are they really good

602
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: for them? You know whatever? But yeah, I mean, I

603
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I want to know how she felt about it. Yeah,

604
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: that would be an interesting conversation, is like how she felt,

605
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: because I feel she probably was okay with a lot

606
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: of it, But I don't know. I guess I'm making

607
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: that assumption because she seems to have taken a lot

608
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: of roles like that. That's true. Well, I mean not

609
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: to say that it's irrelevant how she feels about it,

610
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: but I think more importantly just the fact that we're seeing,

611
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: like we're making all these movies geared towards usually young,

612
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: impressionable audiences, and they're like hyper sexualized portrayals of women

613
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, like, look at how like I

614
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: saw the Drumanji reboot movie, and I think there is

615
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: a few illusions that I think are direct references to

616
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: Lata Croft tomb Writer, really, where whenever the one character

617
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: ends up in the Avatar that Karen Gillen plays, she

618
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: ends up in this very similar outfit. Short shorts, big boots,

619
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: and then like a tiny tank top and she's getting

620
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: like bitten by mosquitoes and stuff like that. She's like, what,

621
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: like what is this outfit? Like are you kidding me?

622
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: Like this is so impractical? I think that's and then

623
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: her skill, her special skill in the in the game Drumanji,

624
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: is that she's great at dance fighting, which I think

625
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: is an allusion to either this movie or just this

626
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: type of movie where the female action star is like this,

627
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: like I said, like a willowy, super agile. So that's okay.

628
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: So that brings me to another thing that I another

629
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: scene that I was just like, what the funk are

630
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: we looking at right here? When she is like in

631
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: her pajamas, these like billowing, flowy pajamas, they are purposefully

632
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: not buttoned the whole way, and then she's attached to

633
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: this like bungee cord set up and she's just like

634
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: kind of bunging around her living room. And then I'm like, okay,

635
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: what is this for what is she doing? Is this exercise?

636
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: Is this maybe to help with her I loved that

637
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: whatever that was. That was like I want, I want

638
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: to do that. It looks fun, but like is it

639
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: serving the story at all? No? But then I was like, Okay,

640
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: maybe it's helping with her agility. And then it got

641
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: me thinking that female action stars like this have to

642
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: be agile, like that's their thing, so like they can't

643
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: be like their male counterparts. They're male action stars. They

644
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: can be like tough and brutish and just like kind

645
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: of sloppy, and they don't have to be these like

646
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: super graceful, super agile. They're like dirty, gritty, Yeah, exactly,

647
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: not manicured. But a female action star has to still

648
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: be And maybe I think this is like changing a

649
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: little bit in the Hollywood landscape. But for sure, at

650
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: this time, like it was just like, well, no one's

651
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna want to see this unless is like perfectly flipping

652
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: around and like being super delicate and agile. This is

653
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: a lot of like Bush era ship. Yeah of like

654
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: and and it does feel ultimately a little bit like

655
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: I hope that some women got something empowering out of

656
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: this movie, but Ultimately, it just feels kind of counterproductive totally,

657
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Like this is the sort of thing that any number

658
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: of crummy ex boyfriends I've had would point to and

659
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: be like, what do you mean There's no representation in

660
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: movies feminist icon right, So so ultimately I do feel

661
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: like it is it kind of like gives crummy dude

662
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: something to point to to be like, what what do

663
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: you mean? Like women are underrepresented. Here's this woman who

664
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: has never existed. Well yeah, well so the video game

665
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean was obviously I made with the intent of

666
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: young men, you know, wanting, well, why would a young

667
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: guy want to play a woman? Well, we're going to

668
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: make her with huge tits and then that might be

669
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: fun for them to play with. But it was also

670
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: kind of fired by James Bond, and I think if

671
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: they had approached it more in that way. Not saying

672
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: that she's the same as that character, but I agree

673
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: that so much of her is shot from the male gaze,

674
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: and James Bond is able to sleep with like multiple women,

675
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: and we see his body and things like that. But

676
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: yet it's not in a demeaning way. It's in a

677
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: power power Yes, Wow, look how fucking cool he is

678
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: what's the things I noticed with this? Okay, there is

679
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: a totally Kuko bananas Angelina Jolie shower scene and that's

680
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: from the video game. Yes, yeah, who in their life

681
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: has ever flipped their hair in the shower? But my

682
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: favorite thing this is like the us in movies all

683
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: the time where the hot protagonist stares into their shower spot.

684
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: This looks so uncomfortable. Who's looking into their like washed

685
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: me daddy, Like it's so fucking weird my eyes. Yeah,

686
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: that shower scene is from SO and I think it

687
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: might be a tiny bit more graphic in the video game,

688
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: and so they toned it down. And the only thing

689
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: that they could show in this was her side boob.

690
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: But she does have killer side crap. Mine is so

691
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: not as perky compared to that. I've got a weird

692
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: texture to the side. It's the whole thing. You've got

693
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: to arrange it just so. Yeah, the shower scene did

694
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: make me laugh out like l O L. Well, yeah,

695
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's her a close up of her head,

696
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: but she's like again mid orgasm where she's just like

697
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: throwing her head back and like staring into hot water,

698
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: writhing around in the shower. No one showers like that.

699
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: You spend yourselone there. I would say, if you had

700
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: video footage of anyone showering alone, it would be some

701
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: of the most humbling thing you ever see. I'm like, oh,

702
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: sudsing with their pubes makes sense, not fun to watch,

703
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: but makes sense. Being crying. She does that bumbling despot

704
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: like horrible. She does that thing where she has her

705
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: head down and then she flips it up and all

706
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: her hair comes flipping, and I've never done in my life.

707
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: No one ever held the purpose be you'd make a mess, right,

708
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: So that scene happens, and then she steps out of

709
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: the shower and she's in this tiny little towel, which

710
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: and she's not a lady, right yes, so her get

711
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: out of the bathroom per her. Her butler is named Hilary,

712
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: but he's a man and progressive. I'm a cycon, remember

713
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: Ashley Parker, Angel of Otez. Progressive and a three name

714
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: to boo. Yeah, I love a good three name. So

715
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: she comes into the shower, she's in this tiny towel.

716
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: The butler holds up a dress in this para right heeled,

717
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: and she's like, no dresses and heels for me, and

718
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm only trying to turn you into a lady,

719
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: and she flings her towel off, and that's when you

720
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: see the famous side boob and then and then he

721
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: does the whole thing where we talked about where he's like,

722
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to he's like, a ladies should be modest,

723
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: and she's like, yes, a lady should be implying she's

724
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: not a lady. She's not like the other girls. She's

725
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: a little bit different. She wears combat boots and she

726
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: drives a jeep and she fights robots. Fine, if you're

727
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: not conforming to this like standard. But then she's also

728
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: agreeing that, yes, ladies should be a certain way. I mean,

729
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: this is dumb. This is of like a throwaway moment,

730
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: but it's just like I feel like the movie's trying

731
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: to comment on like gender and gender roles, but like

732
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't. You don't get to do that and then

733
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: also sexualize your main character in an insane way. But

734
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: the reason I brought up the shower scenes because we

735
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: do later and I was sort of like, I don't

736
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: know what I would call that. We do get it,

737
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: not quite as agreed, just but we do get adower

738
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: scene and uh and a little bit of commentary on

739
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: his full frontal, which I think is the only other

740
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: time we see a shot of just still a woman

741
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: when he answers the door and then a woman is

742
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: straight up horrified at whatever gnar old situation Daniel Craig

743
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: has going on, because I've never like, who would see

744
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Craig nude and be like, oh, like, what was terrified?

745
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: What did she see down there? It was? It was

746
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think just opening the door on

747
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: a naked man is gonna shock anyone who's not I mean,

748
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: but are you going to be are you screaming hat

749
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: off and running away? You'd be like, okay, when you're

750
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: not expecting a penis, I would probably scream. You know,

751
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, we've all had the unexpected penis, so so

752
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: I would probably. I think it's not that unusual of

753
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: a reaction for her. But the point is so that

754
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: in that scene, yeah, you do see like a good

755
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: chunk of his naked body pretty much everything besides Dick

756
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: in the scene, but he's not framed in the same

757
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: way Angela Jolie is, where she's just like writhing around

758
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: and like I'm having an orgasm in the shower. So

759
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: the way men and women are framed in this movie

760
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: and many many action movies is very differently. And I

761
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: actually wanted to go back to Danny something that you

762
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: were kind of touching on, which is that Danny just

763
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: took a swig of Celsius Celsius sparkling wildberry. Get it

764
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: at Vitamin Shop, g n C Whole Foods and Airjan

765
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: and Jenny Carters refrigerator. On your way there. They're on

766
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: an episode of Playing Games with Jimmy Carter. There's only

767
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: six episodes. He needs your support. Yeah, so I think

768
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that men are also to

769
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: some degree sexualized in action movies, like male action heroes

770
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: are different. Yeah. Well, I mean I'm gonna just sort

771
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: of like play devils advocate here and say that they're

772
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: often like very muscular, very macho, sort of this like

773
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: ideal standard of masculinity you see there, like glistening muscles

774
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: a lot of the time. But it's it is not

775
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: the same. I think they're sexy, they're not sexualized. I

776
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: think they're sexy because they're bachelor's. If we're talking about

777
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent to them. It's like they

778
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: have to be muscular for their job because they're saving

779
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: the world, but they're not shown in a way that

780
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: is hyper sexualized the way that women are. And I

781
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: also think that both male and female action heroes of

782
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: this era, at least they're sexualized in different ways, but

783
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: for the same audience. There it's both for men. The

784
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: way that Laura Craft is sexualized is for a male

785
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: audience and and the same way that James Bond would

786
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: be sexualized in a different way for that same male audience. Yeah,

787
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: it's basically like, Oh, here's this like ideal that I

788
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: want to strive to be when it's a male action hero,

789
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: and then when it's a female action hero, it's still like, oh,

790
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: here's this woman I want to conquer and make my

791
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: conquest and not actually like identify with even though she's

792
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: the hero. Story. Yeah, I think that male superheroes are

793
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: kind of more what I see as like athletes, where

794
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: athletes are sexy, they have great bodies, but they're not

795
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: as hyper sexualized the way that I think female superhero are.

796
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: Superheroes are quotes because I feel like most of the

797
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: women in this era, we're not really seen as superheroes

798
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: as much as like Catwoman, Poison Ivy things like that

799
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: were like villains ish where they're super sexual totally to

800
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: the point where they're basically like handicapped, just like Catwoman

801
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: is so horny she can't really she cannot do anything well.

802
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: And and here's the thing, though, is that they use

803
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: the superheroes themselves, Like if we're talking about let's say

804
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne Batman, like they don't use their sexuality as

805
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they're so women are

806
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: using their sexuality as weapon. So that is showing how

807
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: they're different as far as how they're written and their purpose,

808
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: which doesn't necessarily happen that much in this movie. But

809
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: in The Tomb Writer's sequel, there's a scene where she

810
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: like is basically seducing Gerard Butler. They kiss, and then

811
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: it's basically to distract him so that she can handcuff

812
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: him to like a railing so that he doesn't run

813
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: off and do something stupid. There is a perfect example

814
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: of like women using like women action heroes using their

815
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: sexuality as like a weapon. Almost there's a scene that's

816
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: like sort of like that again, It's like I feel

817
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: like Laura both doesn't have much of an interest in

818
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: a romantic conquest, and also it's just kind of an

819
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: underwritten character in general, so it's hard to know what

820
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: she feels a lot of the time. But there's a

821
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: scene where she's with Manfred Powell, feminist icon Manfred Powell,

822
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: and he's based there in a cave of some sorty

823
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: he's threatening to kill her, but it's very set. It's

824
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: like there's one scene where it's particularly sexy where he's like,

825
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to kill you and she's like, I don't

826
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: know what to believe. And then he's like I knew

827
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: you're daddy, and she's like what, And that's when he's

828
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: like he was in the Illuminati and she's like, no,

829
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: he couldn't be. That's the other thing I wanted her.

830
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: Even her voice is like this, like sultry like, but

831
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: that's also angel but she doesn't have to talk like that.

832
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: I've seen her in other movies where she's not being

833
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: all like, hello, this is I'm Lara Kraft. But that's

834
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: like but I think that's like a conversation of because

835
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know, it doesn't bother me as

836
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: much because I feel like I feel really conflicted. Like

837
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: if I were in a superhero movie, I would want

838
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: to be sexy as fuck. I want to like crush

839
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: someone with my ass, but like also people respect me.

840
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: Like I feel like we're in an air where like, yeah,

841
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I want to be able to do what the guys do.

842
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: I want to be James Bond and fucking like Fux

843
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: some guy and be like Sia, you know, and like

844
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: hop into my helicopter and leave him a basket or

845
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: whatever a Rod does to the women days, leave him

846
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: a basket or whatever. Like I want to do that.

847
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: So I want to be as sexually progressive as the men.

848
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: But then I want to be respected. And that's that's

849
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: an issue where people still respect people like James Bond

850
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: or Bruce Wayne who Fox Chicks and then leaves, but

851
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: yet we're not respected as as women much of the time.

852
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: There's no way they could have done that with wonder woman,

853
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and showing her in that

854
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: way where she's just like sucking a bunch of guys.

855
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they could have, but it would have been received. Yeah,

856
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: she has to be extremely classy. She has to be

857
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: like a mother essentially, she's like the mother of Earth

858
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: in a way that her counterparts in the Justice League

859
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 1: are not where Jason Momoa and Bruce Wayne and people

860
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: like that, where they're kind of like yeah, chicks, you

861
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: know whatever, and she has to be like super classy. Well,

862
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: I think so we might get there. It's too early

863
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: right now in the Hollywood landscape to have a like

864
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: a female action sorthing like that, right, but so I think, like,

865
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: I think we just need to. Yeah, I like an

866
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: action hero, a superhero who's a woman. I think can

867
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: be sexy without being sexualized the way we were talking

868
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: about how they frame male action heroes where they're like

869
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: the buff Like you've got your John mcclean's and your

870
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: James Bonds and you're like all the superheroes who are

871
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: like muscular and sexy, but they're not framed in a

872
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: way that's hyper sexualizing them. So I think, like we

873
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: just it's not hard to do that with women either.

874
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: Like we have Jessica Jones, who I feel like it

875
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: is a very conflict did you know? It shows her

876
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: dealing with mental illness and alcoholism and things like that.

877
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: So we do have her, and she's she I'd like

878
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: the fact that she's not one dimensional, and she's not

879
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: very sexualized, even though she does have sex. She has

880
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: sex with Luke Cage that they show, but and probably

881
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: other people. So I will say that they are working

882
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: towards that where we do have flawed female characters that

883
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: don't have to be, you know, as classy and put

884
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: together as Diana Prince, but not enough, not enough, not yet.

885
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: And I do think that I do think that the

886
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: cinemamatography of this movie works against its protagonist totally quite

887
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: a bit. And I looked it up. You're not gonna

888
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: be shocked. Man was the cinematographer for this movie. Also

889
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: has done die Hard, with a Vengeance, The Incredible Hulk,

890
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: the most recent Why Uh, and then Clash of the Titans.

891
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: So it's like this, this is not even a cinematographer

892
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: who doesn't know what cinematography on an action movie should

893
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: look like. But because it's a female protagonist, there are

894
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: times where there is action happening, but we're looking at

895
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: an ass. It's just like, it's great that the ass

896
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: is there. It's not even that I don't want to

897
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: see the ass. But when someone's getting stabbed, show me

898
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: the person getting fucking stabbed. That's just how a movie

899
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: should look. Well, I think it goes back to the

900
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: fact that there's an assumption I think still that only

901
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: men like action movies, So if there is going to

902
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: be a female hero, then they're going to have to

903
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: cater to that male audience. But that's like, first of

904
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: all ludicrous because guess what, I'm a woman and I

905
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: love action movies. So the fact that like there's this

906
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: assumption that like, oh, well, we can't have like a

907
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: female action star. That's just like, you know, a normal

908
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: woman who we aren't showing her ass and tit's the

909
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: entire movie, like we have to cater to this male audience.

910
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: With the new one that's coming out with Alicia, and

911
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: I noticed that they didn't bump up her tips to

912
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: thirty six double D, so that's progress. I mean they

913
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: let her have her her body, her body. It's very

914
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: much about her own body. Um, which is fine, you

915
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: know either way, But I mean, like they let her, yeah,

916
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: have her body, is what I meant. So if you

917
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: have thirty six double ds, I'm very jealous, and I

918
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: think you should be in a superhero movie. But I

919
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the only representation. I was watching

920
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: the trailers, and it seems as though the framing in

921
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: the cinematography and stuff like that doesn't seem to be

922
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: as through the lens of the male gaze as much,

923
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: or maybe not even at all. It's going to be

924
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: hard to tell exactly until you see the whole movie,

925
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: but to me, it seems as though it's a little

926
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: bit more respectful of its female heron, which is then

927
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: I hope it is. That would be awesome. She also

928
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: looks like she's like five too, so I'm like, she's

929
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: so scrappy, yeah, and I just want to see her like, yeah,

930
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: like using like a shard of glass to stab someone

931
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: in the in the neck or something, which is like what, Yeah,

932
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: what I want to see, Like I hate that there's

933
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: that whole stupid like dance fighting thing that has to

934
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: happen in this two thousand one tomb rater, which is

935
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: what I think what that Jumanji references to, where she's

936
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: like she's good at dance fighting because she has to

937
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: be super dancy and sexy and her fight choreography, where

938
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: like I think this new tomb Writer is we're going

939
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: to see her be a bit more scrappy and sloppy

940
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: because like, I think this one is setting up that

941
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 1: she's not already an adventurer. Like she finds information from

942
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: that her dead dad left behind, so she doesn't have

943
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: a dead but like she's like, we're gonna go on it,

944
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: like she hasn't she's not yet an adventure seeker. So

945
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be like a like a

946
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: made hero type of story. That's cool. Yeah, I didn't

947
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: mind how like Lada was set up in this movie

948
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, she's already done ship. She has

949
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: what she's doing. I'm not exactly sure what she's done

950
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: or why, but it's clear she's done ship. She's got

951
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: bungee cords in her house, she's shooting robots and sex stuff.

952
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, she's got some sort of established something.

953
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: But actually I have a good point about that. Get

954
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: ready brag? Okay, So Laura Croft Tomb Writer is very

955
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: similar in story structure to Writers of the Lost Arc,

956
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: the first Indiana Jones movie. I'll just kind of go

957
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: quickly through the main story beats of both, and that

958
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: they both have an opening sequence where we meet the

959
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: hero and learn that they do shit in tombs because

960
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: they are archaeologists. I guess we for sure know that

961
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: about Indiana Jones. We're not so sure about what Laura

962
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: crofts credentials are. They both have a bad guy who

963
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: has their hearts set on acquiring an artifact that will

964
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: allow them to wield tremendous supernatural power. We see the

965
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: hero get their hands on a round medallion type object

966
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: that will lead them to said artifact, and that they

967
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: Medalian adjacent Medalia adjacent, and then they seek to The

968
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: hero seeks to destroy it so that the bad guys

969
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: can't get their hands on it and abuse this power.

970
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: The hero and the bad guys both travel to a

971
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: different country to use the medallion key thing to figure

972
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: out where the artifact is, and then the bad guys

973
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: exploit the locals to do a lot of the heavy

974
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: lifting in terms of trying to figure out where this

975
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: thing is. Happens in both movies. Then the round key

976
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: medallion thing has to be in a certain place at

977
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: a certain time to show them where the artifact is,

978
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: and then the hero and the bad guys come in

979
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: contact with each other, they find either all or part

980
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: of the artifact, depending on which movie we're talking about.

981
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: There's some scary things that happen to the hero that

982
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: they have to fight off, either snakes or statues that

983
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: come to life. Um, we forgot about that. And then finally,

984
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: in both movies, the hero and the bad guys travel

985
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: to a second location, either to perform a ritual with

986
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: with the artifact or to find the other half of

987
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: the artifact, and then basically they both end with the

988
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: hero either destroying or getting the artifact away from the

989
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: bad guys and them saving the day and winning. So

990
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: very similar movies in terms of storage structure. However, there's well,

991
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: there's a few key differences, and that Indiana Jones is

992
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: not hyper sexualized the way that is there. Indiana Jones

993
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: is a good movie. And Indiana Jones is able to

994
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: find stuff or figure out a lot of this stuff

995
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: for himself, either because he like already has the knowledge

996
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: to get him to the next step, or he just

997
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: does the work himself to figure out the next clue

998
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: or to find the next thing. Whereas Laura Croft gets

999
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: a lot of help and it's usually from men because

1000
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: she's never met a woman before. She never I think

1001
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: that would be interesting, that would be kind of how

1002
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: I would judge her characters, how she treats other women. Yeah,

1003
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: so would she be one of the people that's like,

1004
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm not like the other girls, you know? Yeah guy girl? Yeah, yeah,

1005
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: I mean she does. She doesn't even well, don't you

1006
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: don't know, she's never met a woman, but we don't know. Yeah,

1007
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: we don't know if she would be all like these dudes.

1008
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: She might not even know that other women have Well,

1009
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: she knows that she had a mom because she never

1010
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: met her mom. Yeah, she's her dad and her mom

1011
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: are dead, but she does not give a funk about

1012
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: her dead mom. She only cares about her dead dad.

1013
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: And I guess you could argue like she didn't know

1014
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: her she didn't remember her mom. But even so, like

1015
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: her dad, it seems died when she was a child,

1016
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: and I understand like still being hung up about it,

1017
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: but it's basically her main character trait. And this is like,

1018
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: what else is about? Why don't you care about knowing

1019
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: anything about your dead mom? I returned. There's a few

1020
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 1: other movies that we have come across where there's a

1021
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: young female protagonist where that is the main the family

1022
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: of the opera. The main thing we know about Christine

1023
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: Die is that her dad died and it's because of

1024
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: that she actively self sabotages her own life and ends

1025
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: up making out with Gerard Butler, who looks like shit.

1026
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: And now and there's there's another one. I'll all of

1027
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: my Disney movies are dead, mom, but um, I have

1028
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: to please or save my dad, which is Beauty and

1029
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: the Beast, the Little Burmaid, Aladdin, and that kind of

1030
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: brings me to the climactic scene of this movie. It

1031
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: is I thought, great that at no point in this

1032
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: movie that I could identify like Laura is never damseled.

1033
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: She always does save herself, sometimes with help. She's never

1034
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: met a woman before. That's all interesting, and she even

1035
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: has to she ends up saving Daniel Craig, right, and

1036
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: there's that that that reverse that was like, okay, that

1037
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: that is good. That is to an extent progressive. But

1038
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: all the steaks in the climactic scene for Laura are

1039
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: connected to two male characters, which are her dad and

1040
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: Daniel Craig, who gets straight up knife and she feels

1041
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: nothing where she's like and then she just like she

1042
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: didn't gasp. She was just like, oh, maybe she knows

1043
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: that she's going to be able to reverse time and

1044
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: save him. I think she just was like, you, motherfucker,

1045
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: I gotta do this thing well because the climactic scene

1046
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: she goes into whatever the time whole thing, John Void's there,

1047
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: and instead of we could have had some sort of

1048
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: satisfying character driven moment where we get to know Laura

1049
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: a little better because we don't really know her that well,

1050
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: but instead of her discovering it for herself, John Voight

1051
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: literally livers the lesson to her in the time whole

1052
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, some stupid turn of phrase

1053
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: with like you can't steal time, you have to give

1054
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: back time. And then she's like, but Daddy know, and

1055
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: he's like, but Daddy yes, And then they touch fingers

1056
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: and then it's over. And so she's told what the

1057
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: lesson is and then goes back and and executes what

1058
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: she was told by Bye bye Daddy. But it was

1059
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: that was just like one of those little moments where'm like, oh,

1060
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: that's a big missed opportunity where we could have had

1061
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: a moment of seeing her work through an emotional thing,

1062
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: which we haven't seen her do the entire movie. Instead,

1063
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: Daddy does it for her and then she goes back.

1064
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Anything she learns about the key clock thing,

1065
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: anything she learns about anything else is really information delivered

1066
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: to her or left for her by her dad, or

1067
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: she has to go and consult like one of her

1068
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: dad's old friends. Like you often don't really see her

1069
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: figuring it out for herself. Like she is an active

1070
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: character and that she does drive the story forward. She

1071
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: is making decisions that steer the direction the story takes.

1072
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: But unlike, like I said, Indiana Jones, who already has

1073
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: a lot of this knowledge or is just more active

1074
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: and that he is finding things out for himself, She's

1075
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: getting a lot of the information necessary to push the

1076
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: story forward through someone else. Someone else is giving it

1077
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: to her or helping her in a way that like,

1078
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: I think a male counterpart action hero would not need

1079
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: that much help, So that's frustrating. I don't like when

1080
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: female protagonists are robbed of Catharsis because men can't write movies.

1081
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: Bugs me a lot of them. Yeah, can I just

1082
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: say that there's a character named Bryce, which is Lara

1083
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: Croft's kind of technology. I liked, I kind of liked him.

1084
00:57:51,320 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: I like him in Paddington too. I'm I'm glad that

1085
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: he skipped this one also, Um, Aristotle gets mentioned in

1086
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: this movie where one of the characters is like, Oh,

1087
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: this thing that only happens every five thousand years, blah

1088
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: blah blah, even predate. So shout out to ast Aristotle. Yea,

1089
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: and our other producer, Jimmy Pardo. Can I just say

1090
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: shout out to Jimmy partout because he does owe us

1091
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: a lot of money? Um? Does anyone have any other

1092
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: final thoughts about Lara Craft tumb Rader. What a classic film.

1093
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: It's timeless, feminist text for sure, feminist masterpiece. Couldn't be

1094
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: not possible without Jimmy Parto. I think that's all I had.

1095
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: I think that's all I had as well. One last

1096
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to mention is I like how this

1097
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: is one of those movies that anything could only really

1098
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: happen because the character is excessively wealthy, like Bruce Wayne,

1099
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: like Tony Stark, where like they just have a bunch

1100
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: of gadgets and wealth and that enables them to like

1101
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: go on with the adventures you need to go on.

1102
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: The one laugh line for me in this movie, there

1103
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: was like that one part where like the ups guy

1104
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: shows up and her whole house is a mess because

1105
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: she's shot. She killed like twenty people the night before,

1106
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: and she has that line where she's just like I

1107
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: woke up this morning and I just hated it everything.

1108
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: That's like, that's kind of funny. I wrote that down

1109
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's one of the few times

1110
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: in the entire movie where you see a glimpse of

1111
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: her having a personality, like she had a joke. Other

1112
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: than that, she's just so like, I don't know, stiff

1113
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: and just I mean, maybe that's her personality, but it's

1114
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: just kind of boring to watch her because she's not

1115
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 1: fun really to see her interacting with people. Like I said,

1116
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: she's kind of a little saucy, and like you said,

1117
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: she's like defiant and that like sometimes men try to

1118
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: get her to do a thing and she's like, no nothings.

1119
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: But other than that, she barely has a personality. And

1120
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 1: that's why did they go through that weird thing of

1121
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: making her dress like a late at the end. What

1122
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: was that commenting on? What was that for? I don't know. Yeah,

1123
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: I guess it was something that they wanted to see

1124
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: because she's always been I imagine that they kind of

1125
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: are her caretakers in the same way that Alfred is

1126
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: to Bruce Wayne because her dad died, so maybe her

1127
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: butlers were her caretaker daddies. Daddies were so many daddies

1128
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: were her like caretakers, and they were like, you're always dirty,

1129
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: running off, you know, shooting things, like you're not doing

1130
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: anything lady like. So she wore a son hat for

1131
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: the daddies. I don't I don't know that that part.

1132
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: I was like, but but at the end, it is nice.

1133
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: There's so many movies with male and female protagonists where

1134
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: they'll go out of the way at the end to

1135
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: be like and don't worry they ended up together, because

1136
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: I was expecting Daniel Craig to be in that last

1137
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: scene of like, I mean, I made you an egg

1138
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, Like he could have very easily

1139
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: been shoehorn into that, and I kind of appreciate that

1140
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't the same because I don't really care if

1141
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: they ended up together. Yeah, I don't think she cared either.

1142
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if she may sense or mattered. It

1143
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: seems like they like from the second they meet, and

1144
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, these people have weird sex every couple

1145
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: of years, and that's okay. Let's figure out whether or

1146
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: not the movie passes the Bechtel tests. No, there's one

1147
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: scene that's a contender, and it's when they're in Russia

1148
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: trying to find the other half of the triangle and

1149
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: they're trying to buy these dogs from the locals and

1150
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: a young girl comes up to her. They speak Russian

1151
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: with no subtitles, so we don't know what they're talking about.

1152
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: And that little girl also does not have a name,

1153
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: and also might not even be a real girl because

1154
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: then she like Lara around and the little girl's actually

1155
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: a jasmine flower and she always think it was just

1156
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: jasmine I think, But no, that scene didn't because they

1157
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: were talking about her dad. We can assume. But it's

1158
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: in again, it's in a different language. And that's two

1159
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: different girls you're talking about. I was talking. You're talking

1160
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: about the one where the little girl is sitting she's

1161
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: like sitting down and and yeah, they say something to

1162
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: each other and then she picks she like points to

1163
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: the flower. Right. There's another scene when they're trying to

1164
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: buy the dogs that is subtitled and she says, you're

1165
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: making a mistake. Yeah, at least on my TV, it

1166
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: was in Russian. Or whatever, and it said, you're making

1167
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: a mistake by going back to find him, and she said,

1168
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: who are you? Who are you talking about? She said

1169
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: your father? Okay, so that definitely, and we don't know

1170
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: their names. And then the other little girl that she

1171
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: interacts with in Cambodia, I think I don't think they

1172
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: actually speak like she she just points. Yeah, so there's

1173
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: not even exchange of that. Such an easy thing to do.

1174
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: But but there were no women allowed in this movie,

1175
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: so it was it was a whole I guess that

1176
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: makes me feel good that there are no women in

1177
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: the Illuminati. That's true. It's just all men. Yeah. Gosh, well,

1178
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: this is certainly a movie that was released there around

1179
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: it Actually I think did really well. I was reading

1180
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: and it said it was like the highest gross same

1181
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: movie with a female protagonist since Aliens. I mean it did, yeah,

1182
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: especially when you account for international box office. I think

1183
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: it at least doubled its budget. So it did well

1184
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of people went to see it. But

1185
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: it's just that, as we've already discussed, a very convenient

1186
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: form of quote unquote empowerment. Right, Oh, I'll play Devil's

1187
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: advocate one more, try to pass the back to the test.

1188
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: If an unnamed woman screams at Daniel Craig, does that

1189
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: interaction pass well? Her in the penis his penis is

1190
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: actually identifies as a woman. Yeah, exposed penis. Yeah, but no,

1191
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: I do not think the movie passes the backtel tests,

1192
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: which it would have been very easy as you have

1193
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: a female protagonist. You could have just seen she could

1194
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: have had a woman character who lives in the house

1195
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: with her and helps out. Like there were several opportunities

1196
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: for lazy opportunit. Whatever, we wash our hands of it,

1197
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: we hope, we hope for the best for the reboot. Indeed,

1198
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: So with that, let's rate the movie on our nipple scale.

1199
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: We have a scale of zero to five nipples where

1200
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: we rate the movie based on its portrayal of women.

1201
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to give it like a one

1202
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: and a half or two. I'll stick with one and

1203
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: a half. This movie had a lot of potential. I

1204
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: think on paper it was probably a much better version

1205
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: than we see on screen because it's a female action

1206
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: hero kicking ass and saving the world. Again, when you

1207
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: talk about how very rarely do we see women get

1208
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 1: to save the day, like steaks are usually pretty low

1209
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: when a woman is the protagonist of a movie. So

1210
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: the usually the thing at steak is is she gonna

1211
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: get married? Yeah? Is it? Is it? Boy gotta love

1212
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: her back? So it's I always like it to see

1213
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: when it's like a woman starring in the movie and

1214
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: the stakes are high and that she's saving the day,

1215
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: but because she is hyper sexualized in a way that

1216
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: male action heroes aren't, because she needs a lot of

1217
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: help and she isn't as active as she could be,

1218
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: and that a lot of information gets handed to her

1219
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: rather than her seeking it out herself. Just the fact

1220
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: that there are no other women in the entire fucking

1221
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: movie the big thing. It's like where I'm gonna say,

1222
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: they literally go across the globe and still no women

1223
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: this version of the world. Angelina Jilia is the only woman.

1224
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: And also there is a rogue woman who will show

1225
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: up and scream at Daniel Craig. There's also there's there's

1226
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: a scene where she goes into an auction that's happening

1227
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: to talk to someone and she sits down and she

1228
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: accidentally bids on something, and it's a hilarious joke that

1229
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: we all just laugh and we've all been there, We've

1230
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: all been. There's an extremely relatable there's another woman who's

1231
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: also bidding, So that's another woman we do see in

1232
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: the movie, So congratulations, feministize was the same woman, and

1233
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: she's just wearing a different disguise each time, like when

1234
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: she just has a mustache, and then another she has

1235
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: like a top hat, so like ask good or like

1236
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: some absurd scarf memoirs. Sorry, that was a Paddington two

1237
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: referenced Wait who are you giving your nipples? Um? One

1238
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: of them goes to Lara because I think she could

1239
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: have been a really great character that could have represented

1240
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: women really well. But because this movie was made by

1241
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: men four male audience, adapted from a game that was

1242
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: targeted towards young boys, it's just catering toward a very

1243
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: male audience and therefore it ends up being bad. So

1244
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: I feel like she there's a lot of potential. She

1245
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: deserved a lot more. So Laura gets one of them,

1246
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: and then my half nipple goes to Bryce because he

1247
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: was in Paddington too. I'm going to give it one

1248
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: and a half as well. There's like a number of

1249
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: breakdowns for why this movie doesn't work for me, Like

1250
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: it sucks because there are scenes that I could clearly

1251
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: see working on paper, and then the active sabotage that

1252
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: takes place is in the cinematography and in the editing

1253
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: and in the costume design. The costume design where it's

1254
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: just like a signal to me of just like, oh,

1255
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: we need more women working behind the scenes, and this

1256
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't be fucking happening because it is a you know,

1257
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: vastly male dominated beyond the scene crew. And then there's

1258
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: other parts where it's like, well, there is a writing

1259
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: breakdown because there is only one female character. So it

1260
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: doesn't do it doesn't bode well. I'll give one of

1261
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: my nipples to to Laura as well, because I think

1262
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: she deserved better. Hopefully she'll get better in the reboot.

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Speaker 1: Cautiously optimistic, but we saw what happen with flatliners. She

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Speaker 1: can't you can't you never know. Uh, And I'll give

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Speaker 1: my I'll give my half nippy to Daniel Craig, but

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Speaker 1: when his nippy is stabbed, Okay has stabbed Nippy? Cool? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to clarify that, Like, I do feel

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Speaker 1: like you can be a superhero and be sexy and

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Speaker 1: also have huge tits. I think all those things can happen,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was the way that she was

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Speaker 1: shown and portrayed in this un whatever. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: afraid I might have come office on perhaps body shamy

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Speaker 1: to Angelina Jolie because of her ginomous but I mean,

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Speaker 1: but they pad them to be even bigger. That's what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing is like, dude, we know you did that

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Speaker 1: for the dude, like you you that's the way that

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Speaker 1: she was made in this game, and instead with Alicia

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Speaker 1: they're kind of keeping that her normal body. And so

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Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, when you don't let a

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Speaker 1: woman have her own like they didn't do that for

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Speaker 1: Wonder Woman. Is what I'm saying, Like, when you're changing

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Speaker 1: a sexual part of a woman so that men will

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Speaker 1: be more interested in it, I think is what we're

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Speaker 1: saying exactly right where it's Angelina and Julie is that

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Speaker 1: she doesn't need assistance today looking very hot. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's all I mean it totally, and just in the

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Speaker 1: same way that in Transformers you see Megan Fox and

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, she's beautiful, that's not the issue. The

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Speaker 1: issue is the way that we see her because we're

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Speaker 1: seeing her through a male lens and in crops or

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Speaker 1: you're dressing them in a way that's unrealistic for fighting crime,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like that's that's something that I do like about.

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Speaker 1: So they have Captain Marvel is another one that's coming

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Speaker 1: out with Bree Larson, and like they just released some

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Speaker 1: of her armor and it looks like she's going into battle,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's not like a crop

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Speaker 1: top and like this tiny little where she's still hot,

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Speaker 1: like shocking. Yeah, yeah, I love that scene in a

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Speaker 1: Wonder Woman where she puts on the glasses and at

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Speaker 1: a candy's like and suddenly she's not the hottest woman

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Speaker 1: you have ever seen in your life. Like they're still

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Speaker 1: gonna be fucking gorgeous as ship there millionaire movie model actresses.

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah. But I think what we mean is

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Speaker 1: when you're altering the way a woman looks so that

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Speaker 1: a man will be more interested in the movie, and

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Speaker 1: that's highlighting those features of her body. Yeah, pretty much

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Speaker 1: exclusively to cater to a male gaze. That is what

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Speaker 1: I have a problem with, not her body, And that's

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Speaker 1: like just that's how a lot of nineties comic book

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Speaker 1: women were drawn with tiny, tiny snatched waist. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like showing women with with all body

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Speaker 1: sizes would be a lot nicer to me, especially if

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Speaker 1: you have superpowers. You don't actually have to be super tiny.

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Speaker 1: If you have superpowers, you can do you know, right,

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Speaker 1: So honestly, if you can be But that shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: the only representation of a superhero woman is. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess I would give it two nippies, one to

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Speaker 1: Laura Croft because I did think that some of her

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Speaker 1: action sequences were kind of badass and she was good

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Speaker 1: with guns. Appreciate. And then my other I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: it to you know what. I liked all of the

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Speaker 1: Husky Dogs the dogs scene at the end where she

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Speaker 1: burst out of the tune with the Husky dogs. That

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Speaker 1: was very exciting. Yeah, that was actually really cool. I

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Speaker 1: liked that she looked badass when she was in that scene,

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to give it to that scene. Yeah. Well, Danny,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Well,

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Speaker 1: would you like how can people follow you? What would

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Speaker 1: you like to play? Yeah, I'm I'm at Miss Danny

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Speaker 1: Fernandez tweet a lot about superhero stuff, so you can

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Speaker 1: follow me on there and also anime, which that's a

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Speaker 1: whole another thing about representation of women. Um, but some

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Speaker 1: of the ones I'm into have really you know, they

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Speaker 1: have women as genius scientists and things like that, so

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Speaker 1: I love that as well. I am a host over

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Speaker 1: and that's going to be on how stuff works. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh wait, I did want to say one more thing.

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Speaker 1: I want to take my nipple back from Daniel Craig

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Speaker 1: and give it to Jimmy part thinking, oh yes, he

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Speaker 1: says obviously he's never not fine, he's always playing games.

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Speaker 1: totally all right, by bye,