1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi, I'm sorry, 2 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: I miss you. 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: I miss you. 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: I was it going, Oh my gosh, it's going. 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: I'm a mess today. 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm a mess every day. So welcome to my podcasting world. 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: I miss you so much. How are you. 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: I'm good. All my muscles are gone. I love them fast. 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: I hear you. 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: I honestly, the holiday's hit and I was like, I'm 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 4: sleeping and eating and doing nothing else. 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 3: So it was I needed that. 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: You totally needed that. You were, yeah, going hard for 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: a long time. I wish I was with you in 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: I wish I could give you a hug. 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I miss you so much. I 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: was so excited to do this. 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 4: I know we tried to do it like in the 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 4: midst of like finale time. 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: And it was you had a few things going on. 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: It was a bit busy during that season. 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 4: So I'm happy that I'm like also on the other side, 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 4: and I feel like I've regained so many brain cells 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 4: and just like meal capacity to speak. 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: So this is awesome. 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is crazy. I mean, you were 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: you were literally my first friend I made when I 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: joined that cast. Oh and I think, in fact, you 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: were the first person I saw but didn't see when 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: we had to like no one knew who we were. 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: We had to come in. We had our masks, our robes. 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I said hi to you downstairs, but I 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: didn't know I was saying hi to you because I 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: didn't know it was you. 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: I know, it wasn't that strange. Yeah, I remember that. 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: And all I could think. I was like, Okay, it's 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: a girl. 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Okay, she sounds youngish. I could see a little bit 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: of black hair, so I'm like, okay, who could it be? 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: I got nothing. I don't know. I was like, is 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: this a singer? 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: And then we met and then they threw us right 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: into the mix, I mean literally, and we then went. 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: To New York. 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: We were backstage about to be introduced to the reveal 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: of the Dancing with the Stars cast season thirty three, 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: and I remember they like, good morning America. They kind 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: of had us just like shoved in the back, like 49 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: we were like and we were. 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: Like hearted about like sheep. 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you you and I joked about that, 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: which made me feel a little less nervous. I like 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: felt I think I almost felt more nervous that morning 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: on Good Morning America than my first performance. They were like, 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: go here, stand here. When we do this, you're gonna 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: go around. 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: That was a really intense morning. 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: It was very scared, and it just and then it 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: was over like the blink of an eye, and. 60 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: And then we like flew back to La like later 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: that day or something. It was. 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,559 Speaker 2: It was insane and rehearsed. 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: The next morning. 64 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, And I remember we both were like, we're 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: not okay that New York trip. 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 3: Oh not okay. I was having to like recover from 67 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: that for the like the next week. Same. 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: I was brutal, but but now I remember getting into 69 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: the studio and like those first couple of days it 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: was so I like went into it so bright eyed, 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: bushy tailed, and I was totally the contestant that was 72 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: like not necessarily there to win, more to make friends. 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: And so I was like, I just want to talk 74 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: to everybody, like I just get. 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: The note to everyone. And yeah, you were. 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: You were like one of the first people that I 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: really really felt deeply connected with. And it happened so fast. 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: I feel like we just kept seeing each other. We 79 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: may be were like on the same rehearsal schedule, yep. 80 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: And I just remember always seeing you, like in that 81 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: little common area, or like in passing in the hallways, 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: or I'd peek my head in during rehearsals, and you 83 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 4: just like were so bright and bubbly and like sparkly 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: and had the best energy. 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: And I was like, I feel. 86 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: Really safe with her, Like she's she's very warm and kind, 87 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: and you were just so lovely to me and to everyone. 88 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: That's exactly how I felt about you. You became my 89 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: safe place on that show, and so once I was gone, 90 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I kind of just want to be 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: here every week to like root on Taylor. 92 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: I missed you. I was like, where is my safety? 93 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: I remember we would be up in the skybox and 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: I'm like I would just come and give you a hug. 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on? 96 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: Because if you haven't been in that ballroom, you have 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: no idea. 98 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: How terrifying it is. 99 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: It's electrifying and amazing, and the energy is like no other, 100 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: but it's also so much on the body and on 101 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 4: the brain. It is overwhelming. It's overwhelming. And I just 102 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: remember always like finding you and I was like, crazy, 103 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: I'm crazy. 104 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be able to like pop out 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: skybox like every. 106 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: Episode and be like, I'm right here. 107 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you mind telling this story that you told 108 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: me a Good Morning America that we had met once before. 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: Yes, so crazy as a kid, I kind of so 110 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: I did. 111 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: I danced when I was a kid. I think everybody 112 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: knows that I danced. 113 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: When I was a kid. 114 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: I was a little baby. 115 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: And when I was nine years old, I got sent 116 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: in for this like dance audition for this Gap commercial 117 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 4: with the clothing line Gap, and I booked it. I 118 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: went and filmed it. It was so much fun. It 119 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: was the first like piece of the entertainment industry I 120 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: was ever really exposed to. That was the first time 121 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 4: I was ever on a set. That was the first 122 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: time i'd ever like really booked a job. 123 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, baby. 124 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: Nine year old Chandler, and I remember it kind of 125 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 4: just blew up randomly. 126 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: I don't even really understand. 127 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: How, but I guess, you know, the Gap holiday commercials 128 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: of that time, early two thousands were the thing, and 129 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: so it was a really great gig in the sense 130 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: that it played on almost every single channel on the hour, 131 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: like constantly, everywhere. It was everywhere and people really started 132 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: to like pick up on it. It was a little 133 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: like song and dance, a little cheer kind of campaign, 134 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: and there's a specific one. I did two commercials I 135 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: think in like an internet spot. It was like a 136 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: whole thing package deal. And I did the one commercial 137 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 4: called talk to the Moose and it went viral, and 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: I mean viral for like early two thousands. It was 139 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: all over YouTube. There were parodies being made. We like God, 140 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: asked to do these like different talk shows. We went 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: on Extra TV with Mario Lopez. It was like a 142 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: whole shebang. And one of the things that we were 143 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: asked to do, and this is I'm telling this from 144 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: my like nine year. 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: Old perspective, we were asked to go to. 146 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 4: A very high profile celebrity household and I'm her this. 147 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: Party, who dance? 148 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: Who? It was Tori Spelling, which was crazy. 149 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: So I literally was on this big gap holiday bus. 150 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: It was like decked out. 151 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: I think I have a picture that I can probably 152 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: find and send you if I haven't. And we pulled 153 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: up to this house and we get out and we 154 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: start dancing and cheering and doing our little app holiday 155 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: commercial for Tori Spelling and her family and it was wild, 156 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: and I just remember feeling like so honored. I was like, 157 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: this is a big deal, like this is this is 158 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: a big deal. And then you know, however, many years later, 159 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: it's been you know, a decade and some change. 160 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: We're doing Dancing with the Stars together. 161 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: It's crazy, And yeah, I didn't put two and two 162 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: together until you told me. And I have like a 163 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: photographic memory, so as soon as you told me, I 164 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: could take myself back and I remember you and I'm like, 165 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, I remember where in the driveway it was. 166 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: I remember hugging you. You were so adorable. 167 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: And then it reminded me how much younger you are 168 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: than me, because I feel like we're friends and like. 169 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: We're like equals who we are. 170 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: But then I was like, wow, I knew her when 171 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: she was a baby, and it was and we filmed 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes for my reality show Tory and 173 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: Dean Sweet Hollywood and my daughter what my daughter and 174 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: son were the only babies I had at the time. 175 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, they were like babies, babies. 176 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's crazy. And my friend Chandler, who 177 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: was a baby, Oh my. 178 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: Gosh, you knew me way back when I knew her. 179 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: When you guys, no, that was really cool. 180 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: And as soon as I heard about your announcement, I 181 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: was like, oh, like that' story, but like I performed 182 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 4: for her, and so I had to tell you. 183 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't even wait. It was literally like that morning 184 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: of Good Morning America. 185 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: You guys, like we were. 186 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: Literally standing backstage and I was like, Tori, I have 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: a funny story for you. Now. 188 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: I calmed my nerves because I was like, okay, because to. 189 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: Me, I don't know. 190 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: I walked into that experience just feeling like it's kind 191 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: of like when I mean, we both know we were 192 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: on teen shows, so you know what it's like when 193 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: you go on to someone else's show and you're like 194 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: that first day and you're like, oh god, you know 195 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: they gonna accept me? 196 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: Because I know what it's like when this new kid 197 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: came onto our show. 198 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: And I always wanted people to feel accepted. That was 199 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: my big thing, and I'm sure you did as well. 200 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: I know you, and. 201 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was like scary, like are they gonna 202 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: accept me? Are they gonna like me? I was like, 203 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, what am I doing? A fifty one 204 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: year old woman and I'm like, I hope my new 205 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: friends like me, Like it was like high school. 206 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: And you were like also the most lovely person ever, 207 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: So it was like you became like the cast favorite. 208 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: I think immediately like we were gonna do like it's 209 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: so funny. I think back to those early days. Do 210 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: you remember talking about like baking and like like we 211 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: had sony plans and then the show just started and 212 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 4: I was just like bulldozed us and then it was 213 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 4: I remember that moment clearly, and then I remember the 214 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: finale clearly, and then everything in the middle was like 215 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: a blur. 216 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: Sure, well, it wasn't a blur for me because I 217 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: got to watch you every week from my TV, which 218 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: my seven year old was very grateful, and when he 219 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: had to go back to the finale, he was like, 220 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: but I like watching it at home in bed and 221 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: on our TV. 222 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: Can I just do that? 223 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, uh, nope, you're going to You're 224 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna see me dance one more time? 225 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on. 226 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, we talked about baking. 227 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: Yes, what were you gonna make? You were going to 228 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: make your famous something, uh. 229 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: Chocolate chip cookies I think was like the number one make, 230 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,479 Speaker 4: and then we talked cake. 231 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: Like a cake. I remember, yes, yes, because you were like, 232 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: I love Oh. I can't remember what you said. 233 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 4: I remember we talked about like, oh cake or something 234 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: or almond cake. It'll what did you make or what? 235 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: Like what what was your recipe? We were sharing, like recipe. 236 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: Or was I going to make my wine cake? Now? Yes? 237 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeses a wine cake. I was like it 238 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: was like an olive oil cake or an almond cake. 239 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: It was like something like, yeah, and the wine cooks out, 240 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: but it makes it super like moist. And I know 241 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: people hate that word, but when you bake, we use 242 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: moist like it's it's. 243 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, this is a good thing in the bakery. 244 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, No one wants a dry cake. 245 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: No, yes, I remember talking about that. 246 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not just like a baker. You're like 247 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: a baker. 248 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: I love it. It's like my favorite pastime. 249 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: I think it's like one of the only things that 250 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: I just do for myself for the joy of it, 251 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: and so I try to, like, I hold onto it 252 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: very tightly because I don't have many hobbies. 253 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 3: And so it's just something that I do that I. 254 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: Started when I was pretty young, and I just never stopped. 255 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 4: My friends used to call me like the midnight baker, 256 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: because I would like, at the middle of the night 257 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: was the only time I had to myself to just 258 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: like do whatever I wanted. So yeah, I was probably 259 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: like procrastinating. Like what is it called bedtime revenge? Bedtime procrastination? 260 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: Have you heard of that? 261 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: No? What is that? 262 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: It's very interesting. 263 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: It's basically like this psychological phenomenon that explains why if 264 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: you are a really busy person and you don't feel 265 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: like you have a lot of time to yourself during 266 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 4: the day, you it's like your way of getting revenge, 267 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 4: like subconscious revenge on your very busy schedule by staying 268 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: up through the night you know later than you probably 269 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 4: should to try to reclaim some of that control in 270 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: your day to day life. But you know, in that 271 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: process you are also compromising sleep, which is very important. 272 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: So something I struggled with. 273 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: Full body chills right now, you just describe my life. 274 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, look into it because it's a tough one. 275 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: Like you, I know you get it because you are 276 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: also like one of the busiest people and it's I'm 277 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: sure you're like just doing a million and one things 278 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: throughout the day and then in the quiet of the 279 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 4: night when everyone goes to bed, no one's calling, no 280 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: one's emailing, no one's you know, asking anything from you. 281 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: You could just like let your shoulders drop and breathe 282 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: and then you know, then it's three am and you're like, 283 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: why am I still up? 284 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: This is so true and people are like, you have 285 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: to just turn your brain off. 286 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, that's when my brain comes alive for me. Yes, yeah, 287 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: that is wild. Oh my gosh. 288 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: So that time your family would just wake up to 289 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: like all these amazing like truly, Oh. 290 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: I was like two older brothers, and so it was 291 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: kind of the perfect uh situation because I didn't want 292 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: to eat like everything that I made it was like 293 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: far too much for one small girl, and so my 294 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: brother would just come in and like, you know, I 295 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: would be gone the next day. So they were kind 296 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: of my guinea pigs. And then I think that's how 297 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: I got really good at baking. 298 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure they were really grateful, they were really happy. 299 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: You know I do baking from your mom? 300 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a little bit. 301 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it was something that we did together 302 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: when I was really young. But then I also kind 303 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: of just like it was it was something that I 304 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: could just do for myself, and so I really kind 305 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: of went on my own little journey with it. 306 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: But do you cook as well? Not so much. 307 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: But you know they say people are either bakers or 308 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: they're cooks. 309 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 310 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:49,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, baking not easy, it's very scientific. I do cook, okay, Yeah, 311 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm actually I would say I'm better at cooking. 312 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was your favorite thing to cook? 313 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: Ooh I like comfort foods and big things, so lasagna, 314 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: any kind of castle role I can make. 315 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: None of this is kid friendly. 316 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Him and haw and you know they just want like 317 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: straight up and I'm like, I'm not making plain chicken 318 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: like vegetables. 319 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: So you're like cheffing up in the kitchen. 320 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. But I like to try things. Yeah, 321 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I love trying things, and I love not see. This 322 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: is where baking and cooking is so different. I love 323 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: to not follow a recipe and kind of put a 324 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: little in. 325 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: Baking is so precise. 326 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: But I think I might have mentioned this to you 327 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: that my daughter, who is now sixteen, started baking when 328 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: she was four and she is incredible. So when I 329 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: heard that you baked, not only do we connect on 330 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: that level, but I was like, oh my gosh. I 331 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: was like Stella and Chandler would just you guys are 332 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: so much alight. 333 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: We need to have a baking party. 334 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: We really do, we really do. 335 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: We did talk about it. We got to do it now. 336 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: I know you and I were both going to bake 337 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: and bring to said and just like that's just like 338 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: way overshooting, Like. 339 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: Well, honestly, we had no idea, and this is something 340 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: that I feel like the pros on Dancy with the 341 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: Stars talk a lot about the stars that come in 342 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: don't realize how heavy the workload is. 343 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: You have no idea. 344 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: I think we were like, yeah, this is going to 345 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 4: be you know, like this is a cute little side quest. No, 346 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 4: we were in the studio like every day, and that 347 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: was way more intense than I thought it was going 348 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: to be. I was up for the challenge, but it 349 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: was just like I was so taken aback, you know, 350 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 4: like with with how heavy that workload was. 351 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: It's definitely not when you get the call from your agent. 352 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: It's not what you think, right, you know. 353 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: I feel like they make it sound and everyone from 354 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: the top to the bottom to everyone in between is 355 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: the most lovely on Dancing with the Stars, which is 356 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: a testament to why they've been around thirty three seasons, 357 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: predominantly all the same crew, Like people love being there 358 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: and you can tell and while it's a competition show, 359 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: I and you can speak to this as well, having 360 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: done many series, like it was the least competitive set 361 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: I've ever been on, truly, Like it's like wild. But 362 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: people kept saying like, this is true, this is true. 363 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: They're like, but you guys have a really great, kind, 364 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: tight knit cast this season, And it was true. There 365 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: wasn't one person that I was like, ooh, I don't 366 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: know of that person, Like I've stayed in touch with everyone, like, 367 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's it's It was a great cast. 368 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 4: It was a really lovely cast. I feel like we 369 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 4: got so lucky, and I think we all were feeling it. 370 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: And then we would ask everyone and they would confirm like, no, 371 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: you guys are like this is the most drama free, 372 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: Like everyone's bringing good energy, every. 373 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: Special A few yeah, very special. Yeah. So yeah, I 374 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 3: felt really lucky, really really lucky. 375 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of cast, I my fans will be very 376 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: sad if I don't ask you about all of your series. Okay, 377 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: my fans, I mean my kids, So when I when 378 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: I told the kids, because I didn't know until they 379 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: didn't tell me who was on it. I didn't know 380 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: until we came in to do our first photo shoot 381 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: that day and people walked in and I was like, 382 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, yeah, 383 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: who everyone was. I had met a few people at rehearsal, 384 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: but then, you know, it was kind of fun. It 385 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: was like the big reveal. I was like, wow, look 386 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: who's on Oh. But yeah, when I told my kids 387 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: the cast, they freaked out when I said it was you. 388 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: Because my daughter Hattie is a huge fan of zombies 389 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: and a Pretty Little Liar's original sin Oh, she's like 390 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: a huge fan, and I kept like wanting to get 391 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: her to like talk to you more and take pictures, 392 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: and she got super nervous and she'd be all pouty. 393 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: She's a teen, she's thirteen, and she'd like, no, oh, please, 394 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: don't embarrass me. I was like, Chandler's the nicest human ever, Like, 395 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: it's not like that. She did take a picture with 396 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: Bailey at the finale. 397 00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 398 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all the Pretty Little Liars girls were there 399 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 4: in full support. 400 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: Dang, Okay, well we'll have to make it. 401 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: It's gonna happen at the making party. 402 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. 403 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: I wasn't saying that to Hint, like please, you need 404 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: to take a photo with my kid, but you need 405 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: to take a photo with my kids. But yeah, all 406 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: my kids were like Chandler Kenny, oh my god, oh 407 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: my god, we know her, and all of them were 408 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: like zombies. And then Hattie was like pretty low liars 409 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh. 410 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were freaking out about that. 411 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I feel like we have that in 412 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: common as well, like both started young on teen dramas 413 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: and yeah, how are you how old were you when 414 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: you started? 415 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: Well, so on for Zombies, I was about eighteen years old, 416 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: I think. Okay, And yeah that I mean, that's been 417 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 4: a whirlwind experience working for Disney's. It really is quite magical. 418 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun. It's yeah, and I'm still 419 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: like to this day on twenty four and I like 420 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: getting ready to start promoting the next Zombies movie, Zombies four, 421 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 4: that comes out, which is crazy. 422 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 3: When is that coming out? 423 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: It's it doesn't have a release date yet, but it 424 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: definitely is coming in twenty twenty five. 425 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: Okay, we are not going to make the people wait 426 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: too long. 427 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: But it's it's coming. It's coming. 428 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 4: People will know soon, I think, which I'm stoked about. 429 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be so much fun. It's 430 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: this movie is different than any of the others. It's like, 431 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: I feel like every movie this is literally our fourth 432 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: and so to like to be able to say it's 433 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 4: it's bigger and better, and which is insane, because every movie. 434 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: Like tops the last. 435 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: So I feel like this one, you know, we shot 436 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: in New Zealand, which was such a crazy experience. Wow, 437 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: whereas the last three filmed in Canada and Toronto, so 438 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 4: it has a very different feel. Okay, it's quite cinematic. 439 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: It's just also beautiful. The locations look like postcards. It's insane. 440 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: And then we have a lot of new cast members, 441 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 3: so we're we're so excited. Yeah, ooh, a lot of 442 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: new cast members. 443 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 4: This movie is kind of like almost a passing of 444 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: the torch, you know, because I feel like the main cast, 445 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 4: the og cast. 446 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: As we call ourselves, you're aging out. 447 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: We're aging out. You know, it happened. 448 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: Who are these oldies? 449 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: We're twenty but it happens though. 450 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 4: Oh man, life comes at you quick and so yeah, 451 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: so we're bringing in a new generation. 452 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: Who is smart. 453 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're smart. 454 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: And they just did that with Descendants as well, which 455 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 4: is their other big you know, like originally dcom and 456 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 4: now has moved to the streaming space. But they're at 457 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 4: that big franchise and they're doing a tour this year. 458 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: It's so exciting, which I may, you know, pop in 459 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: on potentially. 460 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: I don't know, we'll see. It was giving me a 461 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: tour girl. 462 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, put me on around the world. 463 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: I feel like you can do anything. I'm not biased 464 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: because I'm your friend. I really you are magical, but 465 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: your magic like emanates from within, and so yeah, I. 466 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 4: Feel the same about you, honestly. I think that's why 467 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: we connected so instantaneously. 468 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: Truly. 469 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: Well, then maybe you could give me some tips on 470 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: my career. So you need to find a lane. You 471 00:24:52,600 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: need to reinvent. Your character on Zombies is Hattie's favorite character, 472 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: and she was super psyched on Dancing with the Stars 473 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: when you did an ode to your character and she 474 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh, she's back, and that. 475 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: Was really really cool. 476 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: Do you feel like being so young and being on 477 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: a teen drama? 478 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: I call it drama? I shouldn't call it a drama. 479 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: I mean I feel yeah, pretty Little Liars definitely teen 480 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: ya drama. 481 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: Zombies it's like it's musical. 482 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: It's musical, they're singing, there's dancing, there's where Kylie and vampires. 483 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, zombies. 484 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: I know, it's like my dream life. But both movies 485 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: and your series have been you know, a teen cast 486 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: brought together other kind of exploded everybody. And I just 487 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: wonder your perspective because I don't talk to many people 488 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: that I went through it too, obviously in a different era. 489 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: But it's not easy, yeah, kind of turning into overnight 490 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: stars instantly and navigating that with having a normal life 491 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: and trying to focus on being normal and all of 492 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: a sudden you're getting all this attention and. 493 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: It's hard. I don't know. 494 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Different people handle it differently, right, I suppose, But what 495 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: was that like? Did the bond you guys even closer? 496 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: For sure? 497 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure. 498 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: I think I was lucky in the sense that I 499 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: did start really young, and I think that grounded me 500 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: in a sense because I was able to kind of 501 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: find my footing as I was going along and so 502 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: which you know, not all my friends have had that experience. 503 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: I think sometimes you do kind of just land on 504 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 4: something and it's it blows up and you're suddenly everything 505 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: in your life has changed, which is hard because then 506 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: you have nowhere to go for stability. You know, like 507 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: nothing is the same, so nothing feels comfortable or familiar. 508 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 4: And I have had a lot of friends like that. 509 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 4: I think for me, because I started when I was 510 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 4: about nine years old, I was able to like kind 511 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: of just like climb my way, like I really did 512 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: do the guest star and then the reoccurring and then 513 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 4: like my first series regular role and like so it 514 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: was it was a build and then by the time 515 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 4: things really started hitting, you know, on a different level, 516 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: I felt kind of ready for it because I. 517 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: Had, like you're stepping stones, Okay, I. 518 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: Had stepping stones. 519 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 4: I had like acquired some of the tools along the 520 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: way I think to show up and like feel equipped, 521 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 4: and so that was good. But yeah, I feel like 522 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: not everybody has that experience, and I know, yeah, for you, 523 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: it was probably like I think, because you were how 524 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 4: you were really young. 525 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: But I had a similar I mean I was born 526 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: into it because my dad, so I always was on sets, 527 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: I always. 528 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: Saw people. 529 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: And I started you know, doing guest appearances whatever. 530 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: It was my nads. But still when I was like. 531 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: Five, yeah, okay, yeah, so so yeah. 532 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: We not like that. That built and then when you 533 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: felt already. 534 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: Hit well I'm really ready, but no ready, there's there's 535 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: no guidebook for any of them. 536 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there should be. 537 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: I thought about it. 538 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 4: You should write it's niche great, you should write specifically, 539 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: I think for for someone that is moving through just 540 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 4: I feel like any insane like life. 541 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: Experience, wait, you can apply. It doesn't just have to 542 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: be exactly. 543 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: I feel like so much of what I've learned is 544 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: it applies to life at large, you know, like not 545 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: just this specific experience, because it really is like all. 546 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 2: The things that I've I've gone through. 547 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, this is something that I think anyone should. 548 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: Know, you know. 549 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: And now there's the new term, well it's not that 550 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: new anymore, but imposter syndrome. Like everyone that's like the 551 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: trendy thing, and I'm just like, I don't, I don't know, 552 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if that applies. 553 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 3: But in hindsight, I and I still do this. 554 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: I am very trusting because I'm very positive. You know, 555 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: we have lights that shine bright within, and anytime I 556 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: get knocked down, I'm like, Okay, I just keep going 557 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: because I believe like and that energy has gotten me 558 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: through everything. And and so I feel like, in hindsight, though, 559 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: I would have liked to kind of tell my younger self, like, 560 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, just be a little more on it for 561 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: who's there for the right reasons? 562 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: And why do they like you? Is it because? You know? 563 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: Because me, I would just be like. 564 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: Oh, I love people like so I was accepting of everyone. 565 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: It was my friends not in the business that would 566 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: stand back and be like, uh no, that one is 567 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: hanging on here because you're a star and they're you know, 568 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: they want. 569 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: Something, And it is challenging. 570 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: When you're a good, kind person, it does change and 571 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: suddenly everyone wants to be around you, and you're like 572 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: hoping it's I was always like, well, it's because I'm 573 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: a good person. 574 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: I'm a nice person. But it's not always. 575 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: That case, not always genuine. 576 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And at a young age, it's a hard thing 577 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: to navigate suddenly becoming such a huge star and people 578 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: there for the wrong reasons. 579 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: Did you ever find that? 580 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 581 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 4: I think that's that's part of it for sure, And 582 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: I think I have had. I think I feel like 583 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: I'm in the last couple of years, I've just gotten 584 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 4: to a place where things have maybe settled a little 585 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 4: bit more. And part of it, I'm like, how much 586 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: of this is the nature of the beast and how 587 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: much of this is like just being like a late teen, 588 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 4: early twenty, you know, normal experience. And I think it's 589 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: like a little bit of both at times because people 590 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 4: are just figuring things out. But I do think to 591 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: your point, the job that we do, it does add 592 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 4: a whole additional layer of confusion, I think, you know, 593 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: and and complication. Yeah, and so I definitely there was 594 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: a time there where I felt like with every new 595 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 4: project I would book or I would go off to 596 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: film or whatever, I would like lose a friend and like, 597 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: I don't like this correlation between the two things. It was, 598 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: It wasn't It was always like something different. I think 599 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: there were times where people maybe felt like that they 600 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 4: should be in that position and then that complicated a 601 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: friendship or or maybe you know, I wasn't around enough 602 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: to like show up with whatever their expectation of friendship was. 603 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 4: And that's when I got really clear. I was like, 604 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 4: you know, I think I have to measure the the 605 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 4: like my friendships by the quality time that we spend together, 606 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: not the quantity you know, of time that we spend together, 607 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: because the truth of the matter is, I'm not around 608 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 4: a lot, you know, like we work twelve to fourteen 609 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 4: hour days sometimes more. We're traveling the world. I mean, 610 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 4: like the last four years, the only thing I've done, 611 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 4: the only job I've taken in LA has been dancing 612 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: with the stars. 613 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 3: Outside of that, I've. 614 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: Been in New Zealand or Toronto in Canada, or New 615 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: York or like anywhere on the East Coast or Georgia 616 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: and anywhere but La, you know, where the majority of 617 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 4: my friend group is and right, so, I don't know. 618 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: It's just like I think a lot of it for 619 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: me has been finding people that do have like similar 620 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: definitions of friendship and are okay with you know, not 621 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: always being able to like hang out every weeknight or whatever. 622 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: And I think part of that is just like also 623 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: stepping into adulthood, you know, like you have adult friendships. 624 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 4: But it's I think to go through those things simultaneously again, 625 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: to bring it back to your point. 626 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: Is really really tough. At a very specific experience. 627 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: Definitely. 628 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I've lost friends the same way, like, oh 629 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: my gosh, you never answer your phone. 630 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you didn't return my text. Oh my god. 631 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: We had this like we had texted each other and 632 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: you were so busy you couldn't get back to me, 633 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: and then I didn't get back or it was like both. 634 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: I think it was mainly me because you reached out, 635 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: you wrote the nicest thing, and oh, actually no, I 636 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: think you're. 637 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: Like you You sent me the kindest text right after 638 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: I was eliminated and I didn't get back to you, 639 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, but you know what I knew when 640 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: you did get back to me and then. 641 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 3: I got back to you. 642 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: Whatever it was, I was like, oh, she's a true friend, 643 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: because those are the friends that just are like they 644 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: get it. And it's I guess it is a lot 645 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: of being in the industry. I'm good friends with Whitney 646 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: Cummings and she taught me a lot because I'd be like, 647 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so sorry, I'm the worst friend. 648 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: I haven't kept in touch and she was like, huh 649 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: uh no, no, no, you're a true friend, like true friends 650 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: always find each other again, and true friends don't judge 651 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: the quantity and quality of the time, sorry, the quantity 652 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: of the time, and don't have memory of like, oh 653 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: you didn't call me back or you didn't check anyone. 654 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: This happened in my life, right, Real friends are just 655 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: there and that's super true. 656 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 3: I think I love that. 657 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 4: Also needed to hear that because I feel the same 658 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 4: way and not everybody feels the same way, and that's 659 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 4: also okay. I've had to like learn, like that's okay. 660 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 4: I think just the reality is everybody needs different things 661 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: and you have to find people that you know that 662 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 4: there is that level of compatibility where you may me 663 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 4: have that same definition of friendship. And yeah, I felt 664 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 4: the same way because we were like ships passing for 665 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: a minute and then but I was like, it's all love, 666 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 4: you know, it's all love. 667 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we see each other. 668 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: We know each other. 669 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 4: There's like, yeah, yeah, I feel very similarly, but yeah, 670 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 4: I love that. 671 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 3: I know we have to go soon. 672 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: But can I bring up an Instagram post that you 673 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: yes talked. 674 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: About It spoke to me in so many ways. 675 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: So you said it was a year of letting love in, 676 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: saying yes, accepting support, running towards fear, living outside of 677 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: my comfort zone and unabashedly following my joy and my dreams. 678 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 3: And I was like, I couldn't love anymore. I love you? 679 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 3: Would you be okay? 680 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: It's giving us a hint of what each of those like, 681 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: how did you let love in? 682 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 3: Are you okay? 683 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 4: Answering that absolutely, I'm like, let me, I can. I 684 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 4: know exactly the post, and I like, I can. I 685 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 4: can look at each one and tell you yeah. So 686 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 4: letting love in for me was letting people love on me, 687 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 4: because I think I really try to show up so 688 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 4: much for the people in my life and support and 689 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 4: be there and cheer on and and for whatever reason, 690 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 4: sometimes I don't allow that to be reciprocated. It probably 691 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 4: if I were to psychoanalyze myself, that's probably my idea, 692 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 4: my past idea of what strength was, you know. And 693 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 4: I realized that that was just a disservice to myself, 694 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 4: you know, like being strong is being vulnerable and letting 695 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: people show up for you and and love on you, 696 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 4: and that is a beautiful thing. And so I've really 697 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 4: challenged myself to let the people in my life be 698 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 4: there for me. 699 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: And did you feel on some level? Sorry? 700 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: I interrupted you, but did you feel on some level 701 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: that you didn't deserve love? 702 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: H I mean maybe maybe somewhere deep down, if I 703 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: were to dig to the. 704 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 2: Bottom to have a couple, big big dig. 705 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 4: You know, maybe I think I think this actually ties 706 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 4: in with the I think the friend conversation of like. 707 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: You know, do I do enough for others? 708 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 4: Like I feel like, you know, and maybe I've had 709 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 4: like transactional relationships in my life where I felt like, Okay, 710 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 4: if I'm not doing one hundred and ten percent, that 711 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 4: I don't deserve one hundred and ten percent. You know. 712 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: Also, that's not realistic, that's not life. 713 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 4: Life ebbs and flows, and it goes up and it 714 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 4: goes down, And I think what's most important is to 715 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 4: give whatever you can and know and be okay with 716 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 4: like your capacity because not every day you're going to 717 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: have like one hundred and ten percent to give. But 718 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 4: and that's okay, Like that that really is okay. And 719 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 4: that also still means that you deserve all the good things, 720 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 4: you know. So it's I think that's kind of what 721 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 4: where that was coming from. 722 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that. 723 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 4: Was that and then yes, then yes was yeah, being 724 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: open to new experiences. 725 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 3: I think it's really easy to. 726 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 4: Let fear win sometimes, but yes, this can be scary, 727 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 4: and so I yeah, dancing with the Stars was a 728 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 4: big yes for me, even though I was terrified. 729 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: Now, were you the type that would say no but 730 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 1: like makeup reasons why it should be no just because 731 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: you were fearful of doing it? 732 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: I always challenged that. 733 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 4: I think I've been pretty decent with, you know, untangling 734 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 4: my fear from like really justified reasoning. But you know, 735 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 4: I think it's always something that you're ever going to 736 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 4: have to check in on and like always make sure 737 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 4: you're doing things for the right reason. 738 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 3: And I think no is also important as well. 739 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 4: But but I think you can't avoid the yes just 740 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 4: because you're afraid, you. 741 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: Know, I agree, What is your biggest fear? Sorry we're 742 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: jumping one because I know supports next, But what a 743 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 1: fear did you run to? But what is your biggest fear? 744 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 2: I think my biggest fear is failure, honestly big fear. 745 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 4: And I think failure is also super important and I've 746 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 4: had to learn why by failing, And you know, I 747 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 4: think I think some of my biggest lessons have been 748 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 4: like what I would have maybe considered to be a failure. 749 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 4: But even now, looking back at it, I've reframed it 750 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 4: in a way of like that that was a lesson, 751 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 4: you know, and that was an opportunity to shift or 752 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 4: readjust or change or grow. So I don't look at 753 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 4: them as failures so much anymore. I'm kind of in 754 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 4: the process of of love reframing that. 755 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, that's I think the fear, you know. 756 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: I think that the biggest fear now is like failure 757 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 4: and not learning anything from it. 758 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 3: But there's still a lesson there. 759 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: There's still a lesson there, that's right. 760 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: Even if you don't think you learn it, your body 761 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: holds on to it. 762 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't believe in regrets. 763 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: And that took me a long time to realize because 764 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: I would always look back and be like, this was 765 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be great, and then it was like climbing 766 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: that mountain and slipping back down. 767 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 3: Why Why? 768 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, no, It's all part of the journey. Like, 769 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: failures are just part of our journey and it makes 770 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: up who we are. And I wouldn't be me if 771 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: I didn't have those failures along with my successes. 772 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 3: It's true, It's true. Okay, what support did you need 773 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: to accept. 774 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 4: Actually, this one was squarely about Dancing with the Stars, really. 775 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 3: Because I. 776 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 2: Really do like to do I have in the past. 777 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 4: This was a big transitional year for me, so you'll 778 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 4: hear me say a lot like Past Chandler. She Past 779 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 4: Chandler really liked to do things on her own. I 780 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 4: think it did make her feel really strong and independent, 781 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 4: but it also didn't really get her far. And I 782 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 4: think specifically with Dancing with the Stars, I allowed myself 783 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 4: to be supported and wrapped in loved love by the. 784 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 3: People in my life and I needed it. 785 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 4: You know. It was definitely one of the scariest things 786 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 4: I'd ever done. I also was like burning my body 787 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 4: out and like putting it to the ultimate test physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically, 788 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 4: and I needed support. And you know, I was also 789 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 4: driving really far because I'm kind of right outside of 790 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 4: LA and I ultimately couldn't do that drive anymore. And 791 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 4: so then I was like literally CouchSurfing, like staying not noticed. 792 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I actually. 793 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 4: I don't even know if I've talked about this publicly, 794 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,720 Speaker 4: but I was like it was I was doing everything 795 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 4: in my power to make it work because I was 796 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 4: it was just not safe for me to be on 797 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 4: the road after long rehearsal days and we were not 798 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 4: getting any days off throughout the entire process. I only 799 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 4: took two days off literally, just too And so I 800 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 4: I my friends. You know, you have your people in 801 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 4: your life that are like, oh, let me know if 802 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 4: you need anything, and sometimes it stops there. And but 803 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 4: then I was like, you know what, let me let 804 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 4: these people support me, because I actually do need support. 805 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 4: And I think even recognizing that I needed support was 806 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 4: a big step. And then to let people show up 807 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 4: was huge. And so, yeah, that's huge, look for me, 808 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 4: or like give me a couch when I'm it was 809 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 4: like deep in La or West Hollywood, and or just 810 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 4: call and give me some words of advice or support 811 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 4: or encouragement. And to really like open myself up to 812 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 4: receive it was I think a big win for me. 813 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: And lastly, which dream did you follow the hardest? 814 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 4: I think my heart, which sounds really cheesy, but true 815 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 4: it doesn't. 816 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,240 Speaker 2: My heart. 817 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 4: I just like, let I followed the joy, you know, 818 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 4: And sometimes I think you do have to get kind 819 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 4: of quiet to like hear it and recognize it in 820 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 4: your mind and in your body, And it's hard when 821 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 4: you're a really busy person and you get kind of 822 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 4: in the grind and you have your goals and so 823 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 4: you just kind of like put the blinders on and 824 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 4: you're so focused on what you're doing, and then you 825 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 4: look up one day and you're like, Wow, it's been 826 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 4: a year, or it's been you know, however long, and like, 827 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 4: have I breathed? Have I had moments of joy? Have 828 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 4: I had moments of connection? And so I really just 829 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 4: kind of tried to quiet my head a little bit 830 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 4: and let my heart lead, and it took me to 831 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 4: some really cool places last year. So I was really grateful. Yeah, 832 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 4: I love that. 833 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: I love you. 834 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: I wish you could be my therapist, but you have 835 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: enough enough plates are spinning around doing. 836 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 4: So. 837 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: Lastly, you are going on tour with Dancing of the Stars. 838 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: Is it March fifteenth? 839 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 3: You join them? 840 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 4: Yo? February? Sorry so soon? Oh my gosh, thirteenth. I 841 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: think I should know these dates, but I do two legs, 842 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 4: so I think my second leg is March fifteenth. 843 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm going really soon. Oh my gosh. Yeah, 844 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 3: I've been, I've been. 845 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm inundated with the stories because obviously we all follow 846 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: each other and the pros and just watching them every night, 847 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe they do 848 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: this every night. Whoa And now I see Joey's there, 849 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: and I'm like, and Joey's now do He's thrown in 850 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: there doing it every night? Like wow, this is this 851 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: is crazy. Well, I want to come see one of 852 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: your shows. 853 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 2: You have to. 854 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: You want to bring the kids, bring the kid, you 855 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: can get her photo, yes, yes, and then you stay 856 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: with them your last leg, you stay till last year. 857 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 3: Is that six? They'll come April fifth or April six? Yeah, 858 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 3: I should do that. That's the easiest. 859 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 4: And I think Alona will be there towards the end 860 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 4: as well, which will be awesome. And yeah, I'm stoked. 861 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I've never been on tour. I've never like 862 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 4: lived on a bus. I've never toured the country, so 863 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 4: you know, I think just the life experience of it 864 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 4: all is super exciting. 865 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 3: But also would be on the bus too. Yeah, yeah, 866 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 3: the bus looks really fun. You know. I like new experiences. 867 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 4: Though, I've been meaning to like reach out to Joey 868 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 4: because they just got Joey and Jenna just got there. 869 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 3: You know, be like, how is it. 870 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: Steven's been there the whole time time, Steven's like this, 871 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: He's just I thought he was just hosting it. 872 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 3: I didn't really understand. Oh he's dancing and he's full 873 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 3: on dancing with the pros. And I'm like, I. 874 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 2: Will tell you. 875 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 3: I actually so. 876 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 4: Because we started rehearsal like right after the show ended. 877 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 4: There was like hardly any break. So that was like 878 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 4: my December and then that's why I crashed so hard 879 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 4: during the holidays because I was so tired. But I 880 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 4: got to see the full finish show obviously, like I 881 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 4: know my. 882 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 2: Parts and I'm very excited about it. 883 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 4: But I saw just like the Stephen Show, and he's 884 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 4: he's so great in it, and it's funny and it's lively. 885 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 4: Like honestly, I think it's like fifty percent comedy and 886 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 4: fifty percent dance. 887 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 2: Like it's it's gonna be a read. 888 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: I I can pick that up when I'm looking at 889 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: the posts on Instagram and it looks amazing. Well, I'm 890 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: super excited, and I believe everyone can go to ticket 891 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: Master get your tickets. Well, thank you, my friend. 892 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 3: I love you. Gosh. 893 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 1: I if I could go back, I wish I was 894 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: Chandler Kenney at twenty four. 895 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my gosh, no way. 896 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: You are so wise and you're definitely an old soul. 897 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: And I just was connected to you from the beginning 898 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: and you inspired me. 899 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 3: On so many levels. 900 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: Let me just say that so I could talk to 901 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: you for hours and I will in off camera camera. 902 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 2: No, I love you and I feel they love you 903 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 2: about you. 904 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 1: It's I want to make a pineapple upside down cake 905 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: with you. I don't know where that came from, how 906 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: of my I just pulled that out of my brain. 907 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 2: Hey, sometimes good ideas just they just happen. 908 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: But we'll get in hugs and a pineapple upside down 909 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: cake and I'll see you at the LA Show dancing 910 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: with the stores. 911 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 4: I love you so so so much, truly. 912 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 2: This is the best way to spend a morning. 913 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 3: Thank you. I love you, Love you, hugs and kisses. 914 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and I'll see you soon. 915 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 4: Yes,