1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: your bets. So this is meet Joey Paid Joe Pisapia. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Week three is just about concluded. A few games left 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: here a Monday night. You can catch us by PM 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Eastern every single Monday live on the YouTube channel breaking 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: those games down on Monday and Thursday night myself at 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Scott Bogman. But this year this is about looking ahead. 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: And man, oh man, I'm depressed. It was a bad 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: week for me. I is terrible this week. I'm gonna 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: take all the l's here because I thought there was 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: some really good things here. I was very happy about 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: outside the Chiefs. That's like the only thing that went 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: right for me. God bless you Taylor Swift for making 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: sure that you had Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes motivated. 15 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully these two gentlemen had better weeks than I do. 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: We could take it through a good week four. As 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: we continue on, Pat fitz Morris joins us, Sam Hoppin 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: joins is. Of course you could check out all our 19 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: amazing content at Betting Pros. Sammy Boy repping the Green 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Bay Packers gear. Feeling pretty good about that Jordan Love Homecoming. 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: So I think you were in a good spot here 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: to win this division because it ain't gonna be the 23 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: bet and it certainly doesn't feel like the Vikings can 24 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: win anything Zam. 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about this pre show. 26 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: I do think the Vikings still do have a chance 27 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: because they haven't played anyone in the division yet. They 28 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: have some opportunities to make up some ground with those games, 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: and they've just gotten terribly unlucky. I'll talk about it 30 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: a little bit later, but with the turnovers, it's just 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: been bad and you would expect some of that to 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: regress a little bit in season, even though everyone's talking 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: about how well they did on one side in one 34 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: score games last year versus this year. So certainly looking 35 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: good for our Green Bay Packers though. 36 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that under came in on that Charger game with 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. One under that did not come in 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: was the Miami Dolphins. 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Fits. 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they scored enough points here for several games 41 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: like you're gonna took the Jets game, combined it with 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: another game and still probably not caught up to the 43 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. I can't imagine going forward. I think it's 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: going to be a real Dolle year. This offense could 45 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: continue to just take off and be something very special. 46 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: But that was a show of shows, bad showing for 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. But I think the big takeaway is 48 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Miami's offense without Jaalen Waddle even was stunningly good yesterday 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: fits historically. 50 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: So it was Joe, And credit to you. I think 51 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: you were on the Dolphins last week on this show. 52 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: I believe you like them, and I just I wasn't 53 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: really interested in that game at all, and I just 54 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: like this. This Broncos defense was actually good last year. 55 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: Or like a bump the march at least. 56 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: So it's hard to understand what exactly has happened here. 57 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: But it's going to be a test of the you know, 58 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: mediocre offense versus the mediocre defense when the Bears and 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 4: Broncos get together this week, and mediocre is really being 60 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: kind quite frankly, I mean, this is yeah, So it 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: will be interesting to see what gives in that game. 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos the first team in NFL history to 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: give up three hundred and fifty yards in the air 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: and on the ground. Congratulations Bronco. I mean, somebody's got 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: to get fired today for something. I don't know who 66 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: it is, but you know this is usually when heads roll. 67 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: But look, before we get going, don't forget everybody. We've 68 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: got free stuff for you here Petting Pros So if 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: you haven't already, make sure you subscribe to the channel. 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: Drop a comment below, give us your favorite picks of 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: week four that you like in the early look ahead, 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: and you just might win a James Cook autograph jersey. 73 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: Thanks to us here Petting pro So. Again, subscribe, drop 74 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: the comment and click that belt to it goes Dings. 75 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: You know if you're the winner of the big James 76 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: Cook Jersey. Let's move on here to Thursday night football. 77 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Your Green Bay Packers gentlemen are going to host the 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Speaking of Indivision matchups, this one is real spicy. 79 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: You've got the Green Bay Packers two point home underdogs. 80 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Forty five and a half is the number at Sugarhouse 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: right now. Forty four and a half. You can get 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: that over on Caesars. And if you like the Packers 83 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: to win at home in that dog situation, on the 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: money line right now, FanDuel's got the best number plus 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: one oh six. So let's take us through here. In 86 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: your opinion, Fits, is this line correct number one and 87 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: number two? Do you see any early value? 88 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: I do think the line is correct, Joe. And this 89 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: does feel like a battle for NFC North supremacy. We 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: know the Bears aren't going to be battling for anything, 91 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: and the Vikings, Yeah, maybe they've had some bad luck, 92 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 4: but that defense is pretty legitimately terrible. 93 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 5: So this is also a Packers. 94 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: Revenge game after the Lions knocked them out of the 95 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: playoffs in the final game of the twenty twenty two 96 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: regular season. So Jared Goff has made four starts against 97 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 4: the Packers since joining the Lions. Lost his first one, 98 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: has won the last three. I don't know that I 99 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: like either side here, Joe, but I sort of like 100 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: the under Both Lions Packers games played under last season, 101 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: and the Packers continue to be very slow paced offensively 102 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: under Matt Lafleur. 103 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with the Thursday night game. I kind of 104 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: lean where you are right now in this one of 105 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: the under Sam. What's your early instinct of any on 106 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: this line. 107 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: I actually took the Packers money line this morning. I 108 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: do think there is a little bit of value. I 109 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: don't think that Detroit is three points better than green 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: Bay on a neutral field, which is what this line 111 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: is indicating. The Packers are dealing with a ton of 112 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: health concerns. Jayira Alexander was out yesterday. Defandre Campbell left early. 113 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: The left side of the offensive line is nowhere to 114 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: be seen right now. But they've still allowed just a 115 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: twenty one and a half percent pressure rate, which is great. 116 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: It's second in the league. Green Bay still doesn't have 117 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 3: a game with all of Baktyari, Aaron Jones, and Christian 118 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: Watson playing together this year, and I do think that 119 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: they might have held some of those guys out on 120 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: Sunday knowing that they had the Thursday night game against 121 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: a divisional opponent at home, and so I think at 122 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: least two of those three guys will be active on 123 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: Thursday night. Green Bay's been sort of living off of 124 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: explosive plays so far this year. They have a pretty 125 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: low success rate but a fairly high EPA per play. 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: But Detroit allows the sixth highest rate of explosive pass 127 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: plays on defense, so I think this is another opportunity 128 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: for green Bay to steal another victory on Thursday Night. 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: It's a great point about Watson and Aaron Jones too. 130 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: If they are active, this is the time to jump 131 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: on that money line number right now, because that could 132 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: very well be the case of why they were just 133 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: holding them a little bit longer. Because this is the 134 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: game you have to win. This is the indivision contest 135 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: that means the most in the standings anyway. So let's 136 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: get to the next one here. Jacksonville Jaguars stick a 137 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: big fat l against the Houston Texans. Ooh wee at 138 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: home they are now one and two. Atlanta Falcons Cinderella 139 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: is finally got lost themselves. So both these teams coming 140 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: off losses a week three. Right now, we got Jacksonville 141 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: your standard minus three right now at home. That feels 142 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: about right as we're trying to figure out the identity 143 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: of these two teams. Forty five and a half is 144 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: the number four The under here at Bette Rivers forty 145 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: five Arena Hafock, FanDuel. If you like the over, and 146 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: then if you like the money line, bet three sixty five. 147 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 1: As the Falcons who went outright at plus one forty five. 148 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: When you look at this line, Sam, what do you see? 149 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: I see the line giving you an opportunity to buy 150 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence at his lowest. I mean, he has not 151 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: played exceptionally the first three weeks of the season. Played 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: okay against Houston in Week one, not Houston, Indianapolis, excuse me, 153 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: and then didn't fare farewell against the Chiefs, and then 154 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: didn't play well this past week either, And I think 155 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: they're sort of realizing that they can't just throw the 156 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: ball at Calvin Ridley twelve plus times a game and 157 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: win that way. They need to get some of these 158 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: other playmakers involved. But Trevor Lawrence is still a much 159 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: better quarterback than Desmond Rheder. He Ritter had a negative 160 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: fourteen point two percent completion percentage over expectation last week, 161 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: which is not especially against Detroit defense that again we 162 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: just talked about hasn't been great defending the pass, and 163 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: it currently looks like this. 164 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: Is shaded towards Atlanta. 165 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: I wonder if we see this get down to two 166 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: and a half, Jacksonville in their home away from home, 167 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: playing in London, so they have that bit of familiarity 168 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: as well, So I'd be taking Jacksonville with the points here. 169 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: Pat Sam makes a good point here. This is the 170 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: way to buy Trevor Lawrence at the lowest point. Are 171 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: you buying him at this lowest point here this week? 172 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: I'm really not, Joe. Yes, the Jaguars have a big 173 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: quarterback advantage here, but the Falcons and Arthur Smith generally 174 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: do a pretty good job of hiding Desmond Ridder in 175 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: that offense, and at least that's certainly what they're trying 176 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: to do each and every week. 177 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 5: Like I see these two teams. 178 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,119 Speaker 4: Of roughly equal caliber, and I was kind of surprised 179 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 4: to see the Jaguars favored by what three points in 180 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: this one? Let me ask you, guys, what do you 181 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: think we know that Jaguars don't have a standard home 182 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: field advantage in this one, with the game being in 183 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: Wembley Stadium, what would you say their advantage is as 184 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: far as an operational advantage? So far, they played nine 185 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 4: London games, this will be their tenth. They're four and 186 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: five so far. It's got to be worth something, but 187 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,239 Speaker 4: probably not worth the standard two points for home field advantage. 188 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: That's a really good question, Pat, I mean, I think 189 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: it's worth a little bit. That being said, Sam, do 190 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: you see any advantage of the fact that they have 191 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: been sort of like the default London team these last 192 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: five six years. 193 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: I certainly think so. I don't think it's as big 194 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: of an advantage as people might think it is, because 195 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: there's so much science around. You know, when to sleep, 196 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: how to you know, recover from jet lag. And these 197 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: are the best of the best athletes who know how 198 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: to do all of this sort of stuff. And it's 199 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: not like nobody in Atlanta is, you know, just not 200 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: familiar with traveling overseas. I do think there is a little. 201 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: Bit to it. 202 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: I mean I would make it, you know, maybe close 203 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: to half a point if that it right now, But 204 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: it's I think I still think Jacksonville is going to 205 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: get to win here, all right. 206 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: Moving on to the next game here on the slate 207 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: two for a time, we've got Pittsburgh and Houston. Now, 208 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Houston coming off their first victory. 209 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: CJ. 210 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: Stroud looking good, the passing game looking good, and Eco 211 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: Collins tanked out. We just talked about all those guys 212 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: in the Waiver Wire podcast on Fantasy pro fits. So 213 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: forty one is the number one FanDuel. Houston, of course 214 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: is a four point underdog at home, which makes sense 215 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: now Pittsburgh minus three on DK's what you can get 216 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: right now. But you know that Pittsburgh secondary patt has 217 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: not played well this year. I think we can all 218 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: agree on that. Yes, second, after the quarterback, that is 219 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: their saving grace on defense and offensively. I still work 220 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: in progress, I mean still trying to figure out their identity. 221 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: They had some moments, they had enough moments where they 222 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: squeaked by last night. But what is your takeaway of 223 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: any from last night, what we saw from the Pittsburgh 224 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: Steelers and what you see in this early line here. 225 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you can keep TJ. 226 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: Watt and his friends off your quarterback, you can do 227 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: business against this Pittsburgh secondary. And I think the Texans 228 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: passing game has been much more advanced than we thought 229 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: it was gonna be. 230 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: C J. 231 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: Stroud has been pretty pretty terrific so far. The Steelers 232 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: might not be one of the powers of the AFC, 233 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: but they have picked themselves up off the deck pretty 234 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: nicely after that embarrassing home loss to the forty nine 235 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: Ers in Week one. And the Texans they're not pushovers. 236 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: I think this line is about right. I generally love 237 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: home dogs, but I'm not sure I can get behind 238 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: the Texans as a home dog against the Steelers. 239 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: All right, Sam, taking a look at this line here 240 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: for you. Fitz mentioned keeping Watt off of you is important, 241 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: but this offensive line has had a lot of injury 242 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: issues here to open the season. Do you think the 243 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: health and talented the offensive line can keep Watt all 244 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: of ce J Stroud? 245 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: I think so. I think Houston is for real. I 246 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: mean c J. 247 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: Strout is making throws that make it seem like he 248 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: should have been the number one overall pick in the 249 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: draft this past year. I mean, he's playing phenomenally. 250 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: Again. 251 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: You mentioned the playmakers that they have, you know, on 252 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh offense side, it's just gruesome. I mean, I 253 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: know that they played San Francisco and Cleveland, but they 254 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: are just down bad historically in EPAPRI plays, success rate, 255 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: you know, all of these advanced metrics, and I just 256 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: don't think that giving Naj Harris the ball is really 257 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: an effective strategy, even against Houston. So I think you're 258 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: getting the better quarterback with the points here at home 259 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: for Houston again, a defense that has been able to 260 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: stifle some pretty good offenses so far this year. So 261 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: I'm taking Houston with the points especially. I think I 262 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: got him at plus three and a half this morning, 263 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: which if you can get it on that side of three, 264 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: is huge for me. 265 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams are going to travel to Indianapolis. 266 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: We'll see how the Rams perform tonight, but in the meantime, 267 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: we hope that we're getting Anthony Richardson back here for 268 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: the Colts. The Colts stole a victory away from the 269 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens on the road, a huge win for this team. 270 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: They are now two and one. Forty five and a 271 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: half is the number on this one. Obviously, it's practically 272 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: a pick him, and understandably why I guess a lot 273 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: of us to do whether or not you think Richardson 274 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: plays and how big of an impact he makes. Right now, 275 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: plus one and a half is where the Colts are 276 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: at home. Sam, do you want to bet this line 277 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: now or do you want to wait for more clarity 278 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to the quarterback situation. 279 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: Definitely want to wait. These are two teams that I 280 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: just like can't get a read on so far. It's 281 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: because they were expected to be pretty bad going into 282 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 3: the season, and they've played competent, above average football at 283 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: certain points so far this season. I do think you 284 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 3: know that Gardner Minshew didn't play half bad this past 285 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 3: week against a pretty good Ravens defense. So I don't 286 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: think the line really changes a ton whether it's Minshew 287 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: or Richardson. But I do think that there's some more 288 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: variability you're going to get with Richardson under center that 289 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: could lead me to wanting the Rams in this situation. 290 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: Pat, the forty five at DK right now you're getting 291 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: is intriguing to me because if Richardson plays the explosiveness 292 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: he carries, I think the over is something you can 293 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: actually look for in this game. 294 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: What do you think That's what I want to play. 295 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: I don't want to play either side. I mean, we 296 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: get this fun matchup of two teams, so we thought 297 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: we're going to be lousy, but have turned out to 298 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 4: be like plucky and very entertaining to watch unexpectedly. 299 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, I like the over a lot. Here. We've 300 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: seen the Colts play. 301 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: At a breakneck offensive pace under Shane Steichen, Like that 302 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: is how they want to play. That's going to be 303 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: very friendly to overs, I think. And the Colts they 304 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: have a veteran slot corner in Kenny Moore, but their 305 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: outside cornerbacks are very inexperienced, and I think Matthew Stafford 306 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: might be able to take advantage of that. I think 307 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: there are gonna be points. 308 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: In this game. Joe, Yeah, I tend to agree with that. 309 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Good Joe. You mentioned the explosive nature of Anthony Richardson. 310 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: I believe, if I remember correctly, he only has two 311 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: pass attempts more than twenty yards downfield so far this season, 312 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: which is kind of different than people would have expected 313 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: coming into this season given how how much he was 314 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: launching the ball at Florida. But I do think Stiken 315 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: has been setting him up to get some easy completions 316 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: and build is confident. 317 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the I think you're one hundred percent right, 318 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: and Stiken's a great offensivend I think we've already seen 319 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: that in Philly for those last few years, and it's 320 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: also well known around the league. A lot of league 321 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: people talk about, like Stichen's that guy that people are 322 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: very excited to see get that head coaching job and 323 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: what he can do with Richardson. But Richardson's ability to 324 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: make plays with his legs, those are the ones that really, 325 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know you got somebody you 326 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: know you're in the red zone. It's third and eight, 327 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: and next thing you know, he runs for a touchdown 328 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: from the eighteen yard line like like that. That's the 329 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: kind of stuff and you saw it before he had 330 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: the concussion. That's backbreaking stuff for the opposing defenses, but 331 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: also for totals, because that's stuff that just should not happen, 332 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: but it does when you have guys like Anthony Richardson 333 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: with a ball in their hands. So I'm kind of where. 334 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: Bad is too. 335 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: I think you leave this one to the coin flip. 336 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: It is speaking of bad teams though, by the way, 337 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: you kind of mentioned teams that we don't know who 338 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: they are, haven't played. Well, how about the Minnesota Vikings 339 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: and the Carolina Panthers, everybody. How about the winless ball here? Now, 340 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: somebody theoretically has to win. I guess they could tie, 341 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: but we're going to get the red rifle again this week. 342 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: So Caroline, of course, three point underdogs at home, as 343 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: we would expect them to be, Minnesota's defense, not getting 344 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: a lot of credit as they should not. Forty four 345 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: and a half is the number for this one. If 346 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: you like the Panthers to get their first victory, well, 347 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: you can get it plus one forty at Caesars Fits. 348 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, the Vikings were handed many opportunities. They could 349 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: not cash in on those opportunities. The defense is dreadful. 350 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: I know Caroline is not a good football team. Theoretically 351 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: on pay, Minnesota should handle them, but they're only getting 352 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: the three points here. Do you think that Minnesota can 353 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: finally pull themselves up by the haunches and do something 354 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: here and win this game decisively by more than three points? 355 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: They can, But I do like a money line bat 356 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 4: on Carolina at plus one, you know, a home under, 357 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 4: especially if Andy Dalton plays like with Andy Dalton starting, Yes, 358 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: I mean we saw Andy Dalton complete thirty four or 359 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: fifty eight passes. They turn Andy Dalton loose against a 360 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 4: bad Seattle defense that was missing Tarik Woollen, and now 361 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: he's going to be turned loose against a very bad 362 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 4: Minnesota defense. I like the Panthers in the money line, 363 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: and I like the over here, like I think we're 364 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: going to see a lot of offense. The Minnesota defense 365 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 4: is not good, but Minnesota's offense is very good. They're 366 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: gonna put points up themselves. 367 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: Sam I was very much on Minnesota this past week 368 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: I did not think they were the team that was 369 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: gonna come out winless. They did. I don't know if 370 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm ready to learned to love again in week four. 371 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: This game, to me right now is terrifying, but Pat 372 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: seem very confident Carolina's abilities to maybe pull one out 373 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: of the hat. Do you see that same path to 374 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: victory for the Panthers. 375 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: I am once again on the other side of fits here. 376 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: I mentioned at. 377 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: The top of the show that Minnesota has just been 378 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: snake bitten by turnovers. Nearly a quarter of their offensive 379 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: drives have ended in turnovers. They have nine total turnovers 380 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: this season. Carolina defense could be without Frankie Louvu and 381 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: Xavier Woods, who both left the game early on Sunday. 382 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: Minnesota's offense is still exceptionally good. I mean, they have 383 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, they have Jordan Addison, they have TJ. Hockinson. 384 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: Like this offense is exceptional. They have a ten point 385 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: eight percent explosive passwraight at second in the league. I 386 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: already took the over in this game as well. I 387 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: think this could be a shootout. So I'm on the 388 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: same side as fits there. But I just I think 389 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: these teams can can score a bunch of points and 390 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: their defenses aren't going to be doing much to get 391 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: in the way of that. 392 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: All right, some quarterback updates still yet to come in 393 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: this next game, because we have the New Orleans Saints 394 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: with Derek Carr. They are two to one now. They 395 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: did lose that game to the Green Bay Packers, so 396 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: much of the happiness of my co hosts here now. 397 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: Derek Carr came away with a sprain day seed joints, 398 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: so he's probably gonna miss a few weeks. I've had 399 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: that injury myself. It's it'll take a couple of weeks 400 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: for him to get back, but he should be able 401 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: to play again this season, which means is probably gonna 402 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: be Jameis Winston. Now, the Saints are three point favorites 403 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: at home to Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay obviously you get 404 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: to play this evening against the Philadelphia Eagles, so we'll 405 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: see what comes out of that game. But forty one 406 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: is the number you're getting at Sugarhouse, forty and a 407 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: half at DK, so we're kind of in that same vein. 408 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: If you like Tampa for the upset plus one forty five, 409 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: you can get that over at Sugarhouse, Sam, when you're 410 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: looking at this one, and I mean, I feel like 411 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Winston's been inept. I think that's the best way to 412 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: put it this point. Like, you know, New Orleans had 413 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: that game basically in the third quarter that injury happened 414 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: and all just fell apart for them. They should theoretically 415 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: win this football game, but Tampa has shown that they've 416 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: been a little pluckier than we think they would be. 417 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: Do you think this is a perfect trap game for 418 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: the Saints. 419 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: I think this is going to be an extremely low 420 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: scoring game. Both defenses are currently top eight in EPA 421 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 3: per play it allowed early down success rate, passing success rate, 422 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: So I think these teams are going to struggle to 423 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: move the ball again with two quarterbacks that we both 424 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: I think we all see as below average in Baker 425 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: Mayfield and Jamis Winston. So I'd be looking to take 426 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay with the points because again, in these low 427 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 3: scoring games, it's going to be a lot closer and 428 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: getting potentially three three and a half points, I think 429 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay's offense has been good enough to keep them 430 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: in their games. 431 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: Pat your thoughts here on the Buccaneers, So I'd say, 432 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: of so far played well above my expectations. We'll see 433 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: what happens against a real football team in the tonight. 434 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: So now we have a little perspective. Maybe beating the 435 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: Vikings opening week wasn't as oppressive as we thought it was. 436 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: So Tampa is the underdog year. But with the backup quarterback, 437 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: is this game a little closer? Maybe? Perhaps in your mind. 438 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 4: I don't know what to make of the Buccaneers offense yet, Joe. 439 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: With Baker Mayfield doing well against the Vikings and Bears, like, 440 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: we can't consider that as counting for much. It'll be 441 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: interesting to see how he does against an Eagles defense 442 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: that allowed I think like one hundred and seventy nine 443 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 4: passing yards per game on average in twenty twenty two. 444 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, this game is really a hard one to peg. 445 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: I mean, we had the Adam Thielen ball. Now we've 446 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 4: got the Jamis Winston ball. And Winston adds this air 447 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: of unpredictability to this game. I mean, this is the 448 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: guy who was a thirty to thirty quarterback the last 449 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: time we saw him as a full time starter thirty 450 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 4: three touchdowns in twenty nineteen with the Buccaneers thirty interceptions. 451 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: I mean he could go nuclear and torch the Buccaneers defense. 452 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: He could commit five turnovers. We don't know. Like Sam, 453 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 4: if you forced me to play it, I'd probably play 454 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: the under. But I it's a pretty low number, So 455 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna play that either. 456 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna stay away. 457 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: I think that that might be a good a good 458 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: practice there. But you know that total, that forty one, 459 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a low number here. You know, 460 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: when you start scratching the surface of that the thirties, 461 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: that's when you know that Vegas is saying, hey, this 462 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: is not gonna be a fun game for the daily 463 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: fantasy or for some other things too. And I don't 464 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: want to hear about Winston revenge games because he's been 465 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: in that division forever now, so he's in a backup 466 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: there for the Saints or a starter at times when 467 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: called upon. The Philadelphia Eagles are going to host the 468 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. This Indivision matchup will take place in Philadelphia. 469 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: The Eagles are seven point favorites as of now over 470 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: on DraftKings. If you like the upset here of the 471 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, it's plus two to seventy five. The number here, 472 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: the total is forty four and a half fits when 473 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: you're looking at this one here, this feels like your 474 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: normal sort of situation line here. If the Eagles go 475 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: out and Monday night and smash here, do you think 476 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: this line moves any bit? 477 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: I do, which is why I've already grabbed the Eagles 478 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: and locked them in at seven points. I'm betting them confidently, 479 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: even on the short week of rest. Sam Howell turned 480 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 4: to absolute jelly against a good Buffalo Bell's pass defense, 481 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 4: and the Eagles have a good pass defense as well. 482 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: This spread feels way too small to me, and I 483 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: think we're going to see it go up. You know, 484 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: I do think the Eagles are going to beat the 485 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: Buccaneers tonight and that's going to move this line. 486 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: That feels right to me. Sam, your friend and name 487 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: Sam Howell made some bad decisions on Sunday. Can't make 488 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: those decisions against the Eagles. They're really going to put 489 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: you in a bad spot, just like the Buffalo Bills did. 490 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: I'm kind of where Pad is on this one. If 491 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: you like the Eagles, you want to bet this one now, 492 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: because the more time I think goes by the more 493 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: people will continue to grow confident in that Eagle's home 494 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: field advantage and the Commander is still relatively although they 495 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: were impressed in the first couple of weeks. You know, 496 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: when you start playing better football teams, this is what happens. 497 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on this early line. 498 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: Washington got drag back down to earth after their fans 499 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: were very optimistic and I think rightfully so through the 500 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: first two weeks. But I think Philadelphia should have no 501 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: trouble just running all over this Commander's defense. Philadelphia ranks 502 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: fourth in rushing EPA per play and first in rushing 503 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: success rate. I don't think it really matters who they 504 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: have in the backfield, whether it's DeAndre Swift, Kenneth Gainwell, 505 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: Boston Scott, all of these guys should be able to 506 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: have some success. So I think this is a game 507 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: where Philadelphia goes in, even on a short week, and 508 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: just handles their business in at Philadelphia, all right. 509 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: This one could be the game of the week here. 510 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills, two and a half point favorites at 511 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: home against the Miami Dolphins, are still favorites at home 512 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: after Miami put up seventy points on the Denver Broncos. 513 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: But regardless the number on the over, if you like 514 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: it minus one twelve fifty one at Sugarhouse three and 515 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: a half minus one ten a DK. If you like 516 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Miami to win outright at plus one thirty five, that's 517 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: the number you're getting a Sugarhouse right now in the 518 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: early line. Now, Sam, this is a fascinating one because 519 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: the recency bias here. People are gonna run to this 520 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: total and bet the over. But it is an indivision matchup. 521 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: These teams do know each other very well. There's a 522 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: familiarity there as opposed to the teams you're playing out 523 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: of division or even out of conference. Do you think 524 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: that's a mistake to people running to this line and 525 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: going over right away? 526 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: I do think so. We saw in the Chargers Vikings 527 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: game this past week with a similar total line that 528 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: you need pretty much everything to go right for a 529 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: game with that high of a total to go over. 530 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: There were red zone turnovers in that game that forced 531 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: them not to score and lengthen the game. And I 532 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: don't know, I've been going back and forth all morning 533 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 3: around which team I think is going to win. I 534 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 3: think I take Miami with the points right now. 535 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: But I I'm. 536 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: Just gonna sit back and enjoy this game without any 537 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: betting leans for right now. 538 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: To tell you the truth, Pat, I think the best 539 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: number on this board is probably the under of fifty 540 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: three and a half on DK because that is inching 541 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: to where you know that threshold of team's really got 542 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: everyone's got to put it together. And I know, I 543 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: feel like a lot of money is going to come 544 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: in on the over, so maybe this number even pushes higher. 545 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: So maybe you wait if you like the over under. 546 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: But I like Miami on the money line plus one 547 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: thirty five here. I'm I'm believing in what Mike McDaniel's 548 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: doing here with this offense. 549 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 5: What do you think, Joe, We're very like minded this week. 550 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: I know it's not always the same, I hope so 551 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: because last week I was on an island and it 552 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: did not work out. I drowned. I drowned trying to 553 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: swim off the island on Sunday night. 554 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, you mentioned the totals already up to fifty 555 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 4: three and a half on Draft Kings, and I do 556 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 4: think it's going to climb even higher, like we saw 557 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: these teams combine for over one hundred points of offense 558 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 4: in Week three. 559 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 5: So and if it. 560 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 4: Does get up to fifty four higher, I will be 561 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: betting the under two because, as Andrew Erickson pointed out 562 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: in the Betting Pros Betting primer, which you should be reading, 563 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: by the way, because then you'd see things like Ericson's 564 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 4: recommendation to bet Donald Parum for a first TD scorer 565 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: at thirty to one, which came in and made people 566 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: a lot of money. But so if it does get 567 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 4: to fifty four, as Ericson pointed out, we have now 568 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 4: seen it was four last season. In this season and 569 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 4: now it's five because we saw the Chargers Vikings game 570 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: close at fifty four. Games that close at fifty four 571 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: points or higher, we've had five of them now since 572 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: the start of twenty twenty two, all five of stayed under. 573 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 4: And so you know, I think we're going to see 574 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 4: that trend continue if this gets up to fifty four. 575 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 4: I also like the Dolphins. I mean I think they 576 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: are the equal of the Buffalo Bills. Home field advantage 577 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: is worth about two points. If I'm getting the Dolphins 578 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: in three, especially like with that field goal number, I 579 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: think we're getting like a point of value, So I 580 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 4: don't know whether. 581 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: They can get Jalen Wattle back too. Theoretically, yeah, that's 582 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: what we're expecting. 583 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: I'm just not sure whether to get it at three 584 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: wait and hope it goes up to three and a half, 585 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: or you know, like it could go down to two 586 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: and a half and I can't figure out which way 587 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: the line would be more likely to move. 588 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, what you got to do then, is set your 589 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: notifications for the game notification and the Betting Pros app 590 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: the line alerts. That's what it's there for. See you 591 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: look at that perfect segue. So if you haven't already 592 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: download the Betting Pros apps, think all your sportsbook, but 593 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: use the game notification. So you could basically say, I 594 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: want to keep an eye on this line here, does 595 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: it go to fifty four? Does go to fifty four 596 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: and a half? I want to be this is the 597 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: perfect example of how to use the line alerts or 598 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: the game notification because I'm waiting for this one to grow, 599 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: because I think it will. People are gonna keep talking 600 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: in the media about the seventy. They're gonna be talking 601 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: all about the Dolphins, and they should. They earnt that right, 602 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: But I think it's going to inflate this number even 603 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: more so the number I'm waiting on. But I like 604 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins here plus one thirty five. But check out 605 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: the line alerts and set those game notifications so you 606 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: know when the lines move, then you can pounce on it. 607 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to the next game here, maybe 608 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: not quite as exciting as the last one. Cincinnati Bengals 609 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: to the Tennessee Titans. Again, a lot of uncertainty here, 610 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: man FITZI. I thought that that plus four that I 611 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: got on the Titans was such a good number. I 612 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: got that one early last week, right after the show. 613 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: I locked that bad boy in. It did not matter. 614 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: The Titans were terrible. The offensive line just laid down 615 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: for Miles Garrett as I would too. I don't blame them, 616 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: but they are right now. You can get the Tennessee 617 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: Titans at plus one and a half at Sugarhouse. You 618 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: get Cincinnati at plus two and a half at Caesars. 619 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: Nobody knows what to do with this game. You get 620 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: forty one and a half on FanDuel, but forty four 621 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: on the under on Sugarhouse if you like that one, 622 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: and then it's even money for the Titans plus one 623 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: fifteen at Caesars. This is your classic. You go choose 624 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: your own adventure situation. But I guess a lot of 625 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: it has to do with the health of Joe Burrow. 626 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: So if you think Joe Burrow sits this week, comes 627 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: back healthy next week and has himself a game, well, 628 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: then this is the time to go bat Cincinnati. But 629 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: that's a big question mark, isn't. 630 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: If it Bengals are going to shut down Joe Burrow 631 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: just for the long term good, which makes me want 632 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: to bet the under here now to lock it in 633 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: at forty two and a half on DraftKings as of 634 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: this morning. I also want to do something with the Titans, 635 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 4: and maybe, like you, Joe, I'm guilty of giving too 636 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: much credit to Mike Frable sometimes and it's kind of 637 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: burned me. It burned me too last week. I thought 638 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: they were gonna, you know, turn it into like a 639 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: rock fight with the Browns and keep it close. 640 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 5: Didn't happen. 641 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: But so rather than take the Titans like on the 642 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: money line or you know, just a point and a half, 643 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: I might try to tease the put the Titans in 644 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: some sort of teaser where I'm getting more than a 645 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: field goal with them that I kind of like. I 646 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 4: think if we get no Joe Burrow, the Titans do 647 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: no worse than lose by a field goal or less. 648 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Sam. This one's really dangerous for me because I feel 649 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: like I'm overreacting to my disdain of what happened this week, 650 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: and the Titans will do exactly what Fitz said, turn 651 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: this one into the rock fight, and then this one 652 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: will be a low total, and then this one will 653 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: be a Tennessee Titans victory when maybe they shouldn't win. 654 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: What do you think though about the Titans because this 655 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: is a really tough game on the schedule. 656 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: It is, but Tennessee's defense just made Deshaun Watson look 657 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: exceptionally good. He had I think, his best game as 658 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 3: a Brown. So if Joe Burrow comes out of the 659 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 3: game tonight without any setbacks, then I'm going probably pretty 660 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: heavy on the Bengals. Tennessee has a pass funnel defense. 661 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: They're rushing defense is top five in EPA per plays 662 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 3: success rate and explosive rush rate, but their bottom might 663 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: in passing EPA per play and passing success rates. So 664 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: the way that Cincinnati is going to be able to 665 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: move the ball is through the air, and I think 666 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: even with Joe Burrow at less than one hundred percent, 667 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: he'll be able to get it, you know, Jamar Chase 668 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: T Higgins, Tyler Boyd the ball in space and be 669 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: able to carve up this Tennessee defense. So I'm waiting 670 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: until the game tonight is over to make sure that 671 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow is still intact. But if he is 672 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: then and this line stays with Cincinnati as the underdog, 673 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: then I'll be taking. 674 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: Them Another Indivision matchup, this one AFC North Baltimore Ravens 675 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: two and one. They are plus two right now in Sugarhouse, 676 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: traveling to Cleveland, which you can get a plus one 677 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: and a half over at bet Rivers. Again, everyone's trying 678 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: to figure this out here. I don't think anybody has 679 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: a good beat on how good or bad the Ravens 680 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: really are, or really how good or bad Deshaun Watson 681 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns are, especially without Chubb. Forty four and 682 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: a half is the best number you can get for 683 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: the under forty two and a half, the best numbered 684 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: FanDuel you can get, by the way, for the over 685 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: plus one oh five on the money line. If you 686 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: like Baltimore to win outright, Sam, do you see any 687 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: early value in this contest between the Browns and. 688 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: The Ravens Getting forty four and a half, I'm going 689 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: under easily. I mean, you know you mentioned Miles Garrett 690 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: in the previous game. I don't know if he saw 691 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: the clip of him motioning to one side of the field, 692 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: Tennessee shifting two guys towards him, him going back to 693 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: the other side, and them shifting those to same two 694 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: guys over to block him. I mean, he's a force 695 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: to be reckoned with this Brown's defense is through three 696 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: games setting some historical rates right now. The Ravens offense 697 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: still looks a little out of sorts with this new 698 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: Todd Monkin offense, and the Ravens are just dealing with 699 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: a ton of injuries to Ronnie Stanley and Todd Linderbaum 700 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: were both out for the second straight week again. David 701 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: Ajabo left early on Sunday, while A dafe Owi and 702 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: Marcus Williams who were both out too. So I just 703 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: think this game is going to go way under that 704 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: forty four and a half going to be one of 705 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: those classic AFC North slugfests. That we typically see in 706 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 3: in December, but get a little taste of in early 707 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 3: October here. 708 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: All right, you want to get any taste of this 709 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: early line when it comes to Baltimore and Cleveland, pet Yeah, I. 710 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 4: Mean it's gonna be, as Sam said, a classic KFC 711 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 4: North Slugfest, low scoring close. If I can get the 712 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: total at anything forty two or higher, yeah, sign me 713 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: up for the under. I saw forty one and a 714 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 4: half on DraftKings this morning, so I'm eager to watch 715 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 4: this game. 716 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 5: I'm not so eager to bet forty four. 717 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: You can get that under at bet rivers right now. 718 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: That's why I use betting Pros sink all your sportsbooks. 719 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: And again you can follow the guys too bettingpros dot 720 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: Com slash Sam, slash fits, slash Joe. But not last week. 721 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have followed me last week. This week will 722 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: be better. But again I win with you, I lose 723 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: with you. That's what we do here. 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You can get it forty five 743 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: and a half on FanDuel if you like the under 744 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: and then you get plus one twenty five. You think 745 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: the Bears can actually get themselves together and win a 746 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: football game. I know you are keen on the Denver 747 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: Broncos defense bouncing back after being grossly all time embarrassed. 748 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: Can they bounce back after what happened? And can the 749 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos finally get a victory in the Sean Payton era? 750 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 4: Joe and I am going to bet them. Both of 751 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 4: these teams are having major issues obviously, but I think 752 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 4: the Bears issues are irreparable. Like that team is so 753 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 4: beyond dysfunctional. It's like I could not have seen this coming. 754 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 4: And the Bears are just a train wreck right now. 755 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 4: They're completely off the rails. 756 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 5: You know. 757 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 4: I know the Broncos have problems of their own, And man, 758 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 4: I wanted to give Garrett Balls a hug after hearing 759 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 4: his postgame comments about how like he's been there for 760 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 4: seven years and all he's ever done is lost, and like, 761 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 4: I felt so bad for the guy. But I do 762 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 4: think the Broncos can get it together. They played a 763 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 4: close game and lost to the Raiders at home in 764 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: Week one. They should not have let one slip away 765 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 4: against the Commanders in Week two. Yes, things totally fell 766 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 4: apart against the Dolphins in Week three, but I think 767 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 4: they can get it back together against a team that 768 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 4: I don't think can get it back together, the Bears. 769 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 4: I'm taking the Dolphs the Broncos, and I'd lay more 770 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 4: than three and a half points. Like if this went 771 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: up to five and a half, I think i'd still 772 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 4: bet the Broncos. 773 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: All right, Sam, your feelings about these two teams both 774 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: headed towards the downward trajectory, But somebody's got to come out. 775 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: So who comes out of this one with a W. 776 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 2: I'm with Fits. 777 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 3: We've reached the thirty seven minute mark in the pod, 778 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: and I think this is the first. 779 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 2: Time I have with him on his side. 780 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: But both of these teams were just embarrassed on Sunday 781 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 3: in different ways, and I think I give Denver a 782 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: much better chance to bounce back low Ki. I don't 783 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 3: think their offense in Denver is that bad. They've had 784 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: some success. They're in the half of the league in 785 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: a lot of efficiency metrics. They're not blowing anyone away. 786 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 3: But against a devastatingly bad Bears defense, I think they 787 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: come away with an easy victory here. I like some 788 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 3: alternate spreads on Denver in this game, to you know, 789 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 3: just really put it to the Chicago Bears. 790 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: All right, the Las Vegas Raiders are going to go 791 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: to LA to play the Chargers. The Chargers are four 792 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: point favorites at home, fifty and a half as the 793 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: number Jimmy Garoppolo should play in this one plus one 794 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: seventy five like the upset, Sam, your thoughts on this 795 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: contest here with Vegas and the Chargers. 796 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: The Chargers are clearly the better team. Their offense is 797 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 3: firing on all cylinders. If not for Tua, I think, 798 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 3: and you know, being one and two, I think Herbert 799 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 3: would easily be in the MVP discussion. He has been 800 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 3: playing exceptionally well this year. I think, you know, obviously 801 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 3: the Chargers defense isn't that great, but the Raiders defense 802 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 3: can't really make a stop to save its life. They 803 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: just allowed the Pittsburgh offense to look good. So I'm 804 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 3: I'm laying the points with Los Angeles here. 805 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: Mike Williams out for the year torn a cl We 806 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: just got that news breaking while we were recording the show. 807 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: Fits impact here at all in this line for you 808 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: with Mike Williams done and then having to move to 809 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: QJ and maybe you know some more Palmer in this 810 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: lineup too. 811 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 4: With this over at fifty, maybe I'm going to get 812 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 4: Brandon Staleid here and the Chargers head coach is going 813 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: to make some sort of terrible decision that costs me 814 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 4: my wager here. But I'm going to continue my full 815 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 4: season fade of Josh McDaniels. I've bet against him every 816 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 4: week so far. I'm going to keep betting against McDaniels 817 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 4: and the Raiders. 818 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 5: And you know, all. 819 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: Right, Fitz, Dallas Cowboys suffered their first loss. They are 820 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: now two and one Arizona Cardinals. They are still six 821 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: and a half point favorites hosting New England this week. 822 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: Forty two is the number sometimes forty two and a half. 823 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna get Sugarhouse forty two over a FanDuel if 824 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: you think New England will win, it's plus two eighty 825 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: on the money line. I do not. I don't think 826 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: this offense is good enough. The defense is respectable, that's 827 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: for sure, but still, look, Dallas, I expected to bounce 828 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: back this week. The question is is this too big 829 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: of a number here? Too much credit for the Cowboys 830 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: at six and a half fits? 831 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 4: You know, I want to believe the Cowboys are going 832 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 4: to be out for vengeance after that toast stubbing in Arizona. 833 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 4: But I do wonder if the loss of Trayvon Diggs, 834 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,959 Speaker 4: oh I change something like, yeah, that's a big deal, 835 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: Like I don't know if mac Jones can capitalize on it. 836 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 4: And we know that the Cowboys can still get after 837 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 4: the quarterback, certainly with Micah Parsons. So yeah, I just 838 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 4: like I think the lines are the line in the 839 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 4: total are both spot on here. 840 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 5: I just don't want to beat this. 841 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Jones as too, the secondary for the 842 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: Newland Patriots was missing all their Joneses, all three of 843 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: them for this past matchup, so that's also a problem 844 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: on the other side here for the newle Patriots. Do 845 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: you see any value here? Sam early on on this 846 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys six and a half number. 847 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 3: To I agree with fits Again, I think all these 848 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 3: lines are are spot on. I think people will overreact 849 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 3: a little bit to Dallas losing this past week, and 850 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 3: I'll talk about that in a minute. Here with our 851 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 3: next game. 852 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about San Francisco, who is undefeated, looks great, 853 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: Arizona has look for all this crap we gave the 854 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals organization. They have been competitive on the field. 855 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: They're showing up for every game, even when they shouldn't 856 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: be showing up for some of these games. Forty nine Ers, though, 857 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: are still fourteen point favorites at home fourteen and a 858 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: half on the plus side for Arizona, get Sugarhouse fourteen 859 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: at FanDuel forty one to forty two. That's about the 860 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: Ranger getting this number. Arizona, there will be an epic 861 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: upset for them at plus six fifty Sam fourteen is 862 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: a big number. Can the forty nine ers cover it? 863 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 3: I make this San Francisco by thirteen, So I'd probably 864 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 3: take Arizona. Their offense has not been a bismol to 865 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 3: your points. Their fifth and early down EPA per play 866 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: and success rate. They've played against Washington, the Giants, and Dallas, 867 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: who are all not terrible defenses. In Dallas is a 868 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 3: great defense, so I think they're going to be able 869 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 3: to have some six sess. I'm not betting this because 870 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 3: I still do worry that Arizona comes back down to earth, 871 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 3: but there's a real scenario where our Cardinals could have 872 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: been three and oh so far this season. 873 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: You're right, I think the one thing I take away, 874 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: though pit fits is the you know, because they beat 875 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys yesterday. I do think San Francisco goes Okay, 876 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: we got to take this game very seriously. It's in 877 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: our division, you know, like we better put a pounding 878 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals because this team's going to show up. 879 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: So in some ways, I feel like that victory is 880 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: almost like a wake up call without a wake up 881 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: call for San fran who, by the way, also has 882 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: extra rest for this game play. 883 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 4: Joe, I'm want to grab the forty nine Ers while 884 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 4: I can at only two touchdowns. I mean, look at 885 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 4: how they just squeeze the life out of the New 886 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 4: York Giants in Week three, and now they do get 887 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 4: that extra rest as you pointed out. And look, the 888 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 4: Cardinals are already messing up this whole tanking thing. I 889 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 4: think they need to come to their senses and get 890 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 4: back to the business of losing, which behooves the franchise 891 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 4: long term. Yes, they beat the Cowboys, but the forty 892 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 4: nine Ers have shown they know how to handle an 893 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 4: overmatched opponent, like even a you know, fairly closely matched opponent. 894 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 5: They just crushed the. 895 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 4: Steelers in Week one like I think this line should 896 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 4: be at least like fifteen and a half. 897 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 5: I want to get it now. 898 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: Kansaity Chiefs are going to travel to New York. They 899 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: are eight and a half point favorites. Plus nine you 900 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: can get at Sugarhouse on the Jets forty three to 901 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: forty three and a half. That's kind of the range 902 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: right now. You're seeing on the line plus three fifty 903 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: if you think the Jets can win, and I don't. 904 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this one FITZI here. I mean, Zach 905 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: Wilson has been historically bad. Let's just lay it out there. 906 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: That's how it's been. The numbers bared out. It's period, 907 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: end of story. But the defense still very good year 908 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: for the Jets. Can the defense keep this eight and 909 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: a half in check? Yeah? 910 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 4: Boy, Patrick Mahomes versus Zach Wilson, talk about, you know, 911 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 4: David versus Goliath type of matchup. 912 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: I like want Shaquille O'Neil playing one on one basketball. 913 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 4: That's pretty much I want to lay the points here 914 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 4: when I look at that quarterback matchup. But I do 915 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 4: still have the utmost respect for the Jets defense, and 916 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 4: they are not The Jets aren't going to roll over 917 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 4: like the Chicago Bears did for the Kansas City Chiefs 918 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 4: in Week four. 919 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 5: So I don't think I'm going to play this one. 920 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: Sam, your thoughts on this one. 921 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 3: I'm playing it. Give me Patrick Mahomes and the points 922 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 3: in the defense is really good. I do like the 923 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 3: Jets defense, But yeah, Zach Wilson is just so bad, 924 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 3: and I think Kansas City will be able to make 925 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 3: his days as bad as it has been so far 926 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 3: this season. 927 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that pass rushes back with Chris Jones 928 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: to eight and a half is Actually this is one 929 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: of the numbers I like a lot. I want to 930 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: get this locked in now before it grows, because it 931 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: will next year. In final the New York Giants at home. 932 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: We don't have clarity about Saquon I would expect him 933 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: not to play. Considering all the information Doctor Chow gave 934 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: us on the podcast last week on Fantasy Pros, it 935 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: seems like he's gonna be a couple weeks with the 936 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: high ankle. Plus one and a half is what you're 937 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: getting here. The Seattle Seahawks one and a half point favorites. 938 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: Forty four and a half is the number of sometimes 939 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: forty five like over on fans and then plus one 940 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: eighteen like the Giants who went home outright, Sam, let's 941 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: lock this one up. Giants Seattle any early value here 942 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: in we four. 943 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 3: I think their offense, after stumbling a bit Week one 944 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: against the Rams, has has come back and had two 945 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 3: great showings. G you know, Smith is looking a little 946 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 3: bit better. Kenneth Walker and Zach Sharpenay are a great 947 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 3: one two punch in that backfield defense hasn't been stellar 948 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: by any means, But I don't think Daniel Jones is 949 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 3: that big of a threat to to put the pressure 950 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 3: on Seattle. So give me Seattle with the points. 951 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: I agree. I'm with Sam minus one and a half 952 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: minus one oh nine. You're getting on that one, Fitz, 953 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: are you three for three on this one? 954 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 5: Heck no, let me close the show with some disagreement. 955 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 4: I'm KII give me the home dog on nine days rest, 956 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 4: and like, I feel like the Seattle defense could be 957 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 4: the get well card that the Giants offense really needs 958 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 4: at this point. I like the over here. I think 959 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 4: this game has sneak shootout potential. As bad as these 960 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 4: two defenses are, I think it's gonna be a fun 961 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 4: way to wrap up Week four, but yeah, I like 962 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 4: the home dog. 963 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 5: Give me the giants, all right? 964 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: We want to hear from you, guys. What are your 965 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: favorite picks for Week four? Early and off and drop 966 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: them in the comments below. Subscribe to the channel, click 967 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: the belt likos ding and you just might win a 968 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: James Cook autograph Jersey. 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