Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Unstoppable. Discover the
Speaker 1: inspiring true story about Anthony Roebliss, who defined every expectation
Speaker 1: to become a national wrestling champion, and Unstoppable, a new
Speaker 1: original movie from Amazon MGM Studios and director William Goldenberg,
Speaker 1: evoking the excitement and camaraderie of classic sports dramas and
Speaker 1: thrilling wrestling matches. Unstoppable features an all star ensemble cast
Speaker 1: including Jerrel Jerome, Jennifer Lopez, Don Cheatle, Michael Pania, and
Speaker 1: Bobby Canavali. Watch Unstoppable now exclusively on Amazon Prime Video.
Speaker 2: Welcome in What's driven the Great? Episode two forty three
Speaker 2: ton to do Today. Fresh back from Boston for Game
Speaker 2: two of the Finals, every person there was awesome except
Speaker 2: for one guy. At all, these Celtic fans, the Boston
Speaker 2: accents gave me a bit of a hard time, like, hey, Nick,
Speaker 2: how of the MAVs gonna win in five because they're
Speaker 2: down oh two? And everyone else just wanted to talk sports.
Speaker 2: One guy confronted me in the second bar we were
Speaker 2: at after the game. It was like and I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna try to do an accent and was like, what's it?
Speaker 2: Feel like to be a sellout, and I'm I'm listen
Speaker 2: and we can put demonse on the screen here' I'm
Speaker 2: I am not a likes to fight guy, and I'm
Speaker 2: not a get in fights guy, but I also do
Speaker 2: not like being publicly disrespected, and those two things come
Speaker 2: in conflict at times. And he clearly wanted to get
Speaker 2: that line off and then keep it moving, and I
Speaker 2: wasn't about it. I was like, hey, I was like,
Speaker 2: say it again. He's like, what's it feel like to
Speaker 2: be a sellout? And I'm like explain. I was like,
Speaker 2: just explain, explain what you mean. And he hemmed and
Speaker 2: hawed and stammered, but he also was not going to
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I'm just kidding. So we so we
Speaker 2: had a moment, he and I and I'm like, you
Speaker 2: gotta tell me what where the sell what the sellout
Speaker 2: part of it is? Like cause I picked the MAVs,
Speaker 2: Like what are we talking about? And he then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden got very animated and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: well this could go you know, this could go sideways
Speaker 2: on me a couple different ways, but I guess we're
Speaker 2: gonna wait and see what happened. And then as that
Speaker 2: happens to Monsey, because I was waiting at the bathroom
Speaker 2: for your mom. As that happens, your mom comes out
Speaker 2: of the bathroom, and I honestly think she scared him off.
Speaker 2: He's like, what's the problem here? And he and he
Speaker 2: starts walking away and curses at me walking away, curses
Speaker 2: at me, and your mom yells, oh, you're gonna talk.
Speaker 2: You're gonna talk, mess and run away. That's what you're
Speaker 2: gonna do. You're gonna talk, and you're gonna run. And
Speaker 2: then he's lost in the crowd. So aside from that
Speaker 2: really great evening in Boston, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I could you imagine if he was like, actually, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna walk ways.
Speaker 2: Well at that point, here's the thing I always kind
Speaker 2: of in those spots have like power in numbers, Like
Speaker 2: even though it was a Boston crowd, everyone had been
Speaker 2: so nice to me and I had taken so many
Speaker 2: pictures that I also have the added kind of feeling
Speaker 2: of security of this isn't really gonna go.
Speaker 3: Left on me, Like there's an advantage.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, that is exactly right. I felt like
Speaker 2: I had home court advantage even though I was in
Speaker 2: some random Boston pub surrounded by Celtic fans, because when
Speaker 2: I'm out in these spaces, I think it's one of
Speaker 2: my biggest kind of strengths as a public person is
Speaker 2: I really spend time with people. If you over and
Speaker 2: say hello, I am meeting you at your eyes, I'm
Speaker 2: shaking your hand and we're having a moment, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Where that.
Speaker 3: Well? Have you really don't know that I have any
Speaker 3: affiliation to you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So that so that's the And I said
Speaker 2: to one guy, one guy who was a diehard Celtic
Speaker 2: fan who showed me his group chat of his friends
Speaker 2: and him talking like sending clips of my takes, talking
Speaker 2: trash about me. And I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: can I look? But he was being nice about it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He wasn't really talking trash.
Speaker 2: It was just like this idiot the you know the
Speaker 2: things the maps are gonna win. I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look into the future and tell you something that's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. I was like, I'm going to say something
Speaker 2: on TV this week that gets shared in that group chat,
Speaker 2: and you're and these guys, your friends are gonna be
Speaker 2: crushing me and you're gonna have a crisis of conscious
Speaker 2: moment of do I join in or do I put
Speaker 2: in this group chat guys. I actually met him and
Speaker 2: he's pretty cool. I was like, and I was like,
Speaker 2: and that's gonna be up to you, buddy. I was like,
Speaker 2: that's gonna be that's gonna be your call of what
Speaker 2: you do in that moment. But but it was great.
Speaker 2: I had a great time. The Amtrak was awesome. Amtrack
Speaker 2: a little more expensive than I thought, but the amtrack
Speaker 2: to Boston was great. Uh, you know, we were there
Speaker 2: for eighteen hours if that got in at three pm,
Speaker 2: took the six amm track back. Didn't sleep much after
Speaker 2: the game, So that was great. The game did not
Speaker 2: go the way I had hoped, But what are you
Speaker 2: gonna do? Your mom met Bea, which was very exciting
Speaker 2: for her. Your mom also met Bill Simmons, and I
Speaker 2: tried to introduce her to Bill Simmons and she said,
Speaker 2: I know who Bill Simmons is. And he was very
Speaker 2: happy about that. He's like, oh, and so there was
Speaker 2: So there were a lot of cool people we got
Speaker 2: to see. We'll talk about all that. Also, if I
Speaker 2: made just real quick, I just saw my Twitter feed
Speaker 2: that Shannon Sharp signed an extension uh with ESPN. Congrats
Speaker 2: to Shannon. Happy for Shannon. He has the you know,
Speaker 2: he took a leap, and obviously what he's doing online
Speaker 2: is crushing, and also what he's doing on TV is crushing.
Speaker 2: So even though there is you know, a network rivalry
Speaker 2: if you will, a lot of good people over there.
Speaker 2: And I'm really happy that Shannon is continuing to thrive.
Speaker 2: He was unbelievable obviously an unbelievable football player, and then
Speaker 2: he and Skip did, in my opinion, the best debate
Speaker 2: show in the country for the better part of a
Speaker 2: half decade, if not longer. And now he's doing great.
Speaker 2: So congrats to Shannon on that note. I just saw
Speaker 2: that news. All right, Here's what missed the cut not
Speaker 2: in today's show. Scotty Scheffler wins another golf tournament, joining
Speaker 2: Tiger is the only due to win the Masters the
Speaker 2: players in the Memorial in the same year. In the
Speaker 2: last eight weeks, Demanse Scheffler of in three of the
Speaker 2: last eight weekends he's won a golf tournament, in one
Speaker 2: of the last eight weekends he's gotten arrested, and in
Speaker 2: one of the last eight weekends his wife's given birth.
Speaker 2: So I mean that is a jam packed couple of months. Man,
Speaker 2: few major win, a couple other big tournament wins, adam
Speaker 2: ember of the family and get himmed up by a
Speaker 2: self conscious foot cop that doesn't have anything better to do.
Speaker 2: What a week for Scottie Scheffler shout out to him.
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown compares himself to, Oh, this is gonna be
Speaker 2: a tough one, hermony, I know that to Harry Potter
Speaker 2: character demonse, did you ever get into Harry Pottery? Okay,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 3: I never got into Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: I think Snape's the one people say, I look like,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Somebody whatever one has the big long note.
Speaker 2: That's not who Lamar Jackson compared me to. That was
Speaker 2: a separate thing we'll get into on the show. I
Speaker 2: never got into Harry Potter either. One of the funniest
Speaker 2: radio bits that's ever happened was at the peak of
Speaker 2: Harry Potter mania, Laslow, who you know, those books would
Speaker 2: come out and they're like eight hundred page books, and
Speaker 2: he made he made the day. The one of the
Speaker 2: big books came out, I don't know, And it does
Speaker 2: hold on. Let me, look at this, I'm gonna spoil
Speaker 2: something here, but it was Dumbledore killed did Snape killed Dumbledore? Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you, Daniel, Daniel. I'm not by the way, I'm
Speaker 2: not stereotyping here. But if I was gonna guess someone
Speaker 2: on the staff that might have Harry Potter clucked, Daniel
Speaker 2: would have been who I went to as I was saying,
Speaker 2: but uh, but so one of the funniest radio bits
Speaker 2: ever is the when that book came out. That's an
Speaker 2: age thing, Daniel, it's not anything else. When when that
Speaker 2: book came out, Uh, Laslow does a great radio show
Speaker 2: in Kansas City Church Alislow made one of his internser
Speaker 2: producers stand in line so they could be one of
Speaker 2: the first people for the book, and then made them
Speaker 2: go home and read it eight hundred page book. You
Speaker 2: have to read it and have it finished by the
Speaker 2: time the show's on the next day. So they like
Speaker 2: speed read the book. And then Laslow opened the show
Speaker 2: spoiling it and said, hey, everybody, Dumbledore killed Snape or
Speaker 2: Snape killed Dumbledore. Sorry, And there were protests. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was a jerk move, but it is a hilarious bit.
Speaker 2: It is a hilarious bit. Twenty years ago. So twenty
Speaker 2: years ago, the book just comes out, and the day
Speaker 2: after he publicly just starts the radio show with Snape
Speaker 2: killed Dumbledore. It was on the news in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: It wasn't all time great radio bit, all time radio bit.
Speaker 2: And then also lastly, Lebron says, bad boys for sodium good.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet. Okay, let's get to the
Speaker 2: actual show. Demon's a lot to do.
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Yeah, So the Celtics, of my Celtics, they
Speaker 3: took a commanding two zero lead in Dallas or in Boston. Sorry,
Speaker 3: and it seems like you might have made an assistant
Speaker 3: coaching debut at at the Celtics arena. I don't know
Speaker 3: what Celtics arena is called, honestly, t.
Speaker 2: TD garden, called the Boston Garden T garden?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, So how was that witnessing your Slovenian son?
Speaker 3: Take that? Take that out? Even though he did well,
Speaker 3: he had a triple double win. You've seen to be listen.
Speaker 2: I went into the game saying, Luca's got to create
Speaker 2: fifty five points. He created fifty five points on the nose,
Speaker 2: thirty two points, eleven assists, one of those assists. Was
Speaker 2: was on a three, so that's fifty five on the nose.
Speaker 2: Here's here's where I was concerned. So there's obviously, and
Speaker 2: I think we'll roll through it at some point. A
Speaker 2: meme of me looking very concerned. I'm on the broadcast
Speaker 2: watching Luca get you know, wrapped, and I'm standing there.
Speaker 2: I didn't love any of this. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 2: knew that he had been added to the injury report
Speaker 2: or downgraded on the injury report because of a chest thing.
Speaker 2: But here's where I was worried that he might not
Speaker 2: be able to be effective. Now, obviously he was. Right
Speaker 2: after they do player intros demanse, when they're coming out
Speaker 2: for the opening tip, Luca is going player by player
Speaker 2: and coach by coach, dapping them up right, and one
Speaker 2: of the coaches instead, while he's dapping someone else up
Speaker 2: gives him a light little one of these taps on
Speaker 2: the chest and Luca winces and the coach goes oh,
Speaker 2: and then Jason Kid looks at him like what are
Speaker 2: you doing? And I'm like, oh, boy, Like that wasn't
Speaker 2: for the cameras, that was you know, no one else
Speaker 2: saw it. It was just getting tapped on his chest.
Speaker 2: Whatever he was dealing with hurt him. Now he did
Speaker 2: not look hurt. How he played, I thought he played well.
Speaker 2: I'm also going to be consistent on something that people
Speaker 2: have for a long time wanted me to criticize guys
Speaker 2: for that. I simply don't think it's fair, which is
Speaker 2: Luca in this game, in this series, but in this
Speaker 2: game in particular, was not that effective in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: and people are like, well, you know, can he close?
Speaker 2: Can he not close? Fourth quarter effectiveness and how much
Speaker 2: I expect out of you has always been on a
Speaker 2: scale of how much did you have to exert in
Speaker 2: the first three quarters to get your team in the
Speaker 2: game in the fourth. So with Kyrie struggling the way
Speaker 2: he was with this is an insane stat man other
Speaker 2: than Luca, no mav in this series has made more
Speaker 2: than one three pointer. Lukea is eight of twenty one
Speaker 2: from three. The rest of the team is five of
Speaker 2: thirty one, and no one has made more than one.
Speaker 2: So I felt like Luca, we have did was didn't
Speaker 2: have the luxury of being able to you know, coast
Speaker 2: at times or rest at times throughout the first three
Speaker 2: quarters of the game because if he wasn't doing what
Speaker 2: he was doing, they were gonna be down twenty and
Speaker 2: then come the fourth quarter he was gassed. Now, if
Speaker 2: you want to say he needs to be in better shape,
Speaker 2: he needs to be able to go hard for forty
Speaker 2: plus minutes. It's the finals that is fair. Only in
Speaker 2: this regard, there are only two guys in the last
Speaker 2: uh ten fifteen years that have been able to consistently
Speaker 2: do that, and that was Lebron and Giannis, guys that
Speaker 2: can go all out and still have the most left
Speaker 2: in the tank in the fourth quarter. Jokis, to his credit,
Speaker 2: seemed to be able to do it in a different
Speaker 2: way in last year's playoffs as well. But we saw
Speaker 2: Yannis do it, and we saw Lebron do it every
Speaker 2: year for damn near a decade. Uh and so it's
Speaker 2: just like Steph would get Steph wouldn't play those super
Speaker 2: high minutes. Durant would play those super high minutes, but
Speaker 2: then would sometimes trail off in the fourth quarter. Very
Speaker 2: very difficult. Now on the actual game, Demanse, let's talk
Speaker 2: about your Celtics for a second, because their game plan
Speaker 2: has been brilliant, defensively brilliant, and that's Joe Mizzula, who
Speaker 2: I think is a little bit of a weird odd gut,
Speaker 2: but I love it. So listen. The Celtics fans are
Speaker 2: loving Missoula right now, and his ability to scheme a
Speaker 2: defense that is simply saying we are not going to
Speaker 2: allow you to shoot corner threes has been excellent. They take.
Speaker 2: They have five attempted corner threes this series. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's really crazy, and that's coaching. And I know that
Speaker 2: Kevon looney yesterday and Kevin Wilde's yesterday both kind of
Speaker 2: soft launched the take of Luca needs to get his
Speaker 2: teammates more involved. That's not what I'm seeing. I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing that Lucas being you know, super ball dominant. He take.
Speaker 2: He took fewer shots in this game than Jason Tatum did.
Speaker 2: He's still had eleven assists. They're not making shots, and
Speaker 2: the Celtics defensive scheme has been we're gonna single cover guys,
Speaker 2: We're gonna sing will cover guys and not allow the
Speaker 2: role players to get hot. The guy who should be
Speaker 2: able to take the most advantage of that is Kyrie.
Speaker 2: Because Kyrie, with his skill and ball handling as great
Speaker 2: as Drew Holliday is, and as good as Derek White is,
Speaker 2: he still shouldn't be struggling to this level if they're
Speaker 2: not doubling him. And so if people think I'm making
Speaker 2: an excuse for Luca, what what grade would you give
Speaker 2: Luca Demons through two games for his performance through two games?
Speaker 3: As just say A B plus plus plus.
Speaker 2: So B plus is what where I've landed at it
Speaker 2: because he's held to a higher standard eight. But he's
Speaker 2: certainly not the problem. What is true is he has
Speaker 2: is Defensively, he hasn't been good. There's there's no question.
Speaker 2: But what I will say, the MAVs would have signed
Speaker 2: up for Boston scoring one oh seven and one oh five.
Speaker 2: They're not losing because of their defense. Now maybe they
Speaker 2: will in a future game, but the MAVs defense has
Speaker 2: been good enough. Their offense is doing nothing, and that's
Speaker 2: been that's been the problem. Here is the other truth
Speaker 2: for Luca. He for them to win the series, he
Speaker 2: has to be an A plus. I think that he's
Speaker 2: going to have to have the MAVs path is if
Speaker 2: they are gonna win the series. Luca has two games
Speaker 2: where he is unstoppable forty plus points and double digit assists.
Speaker 2: You need two of those. You need Kyrie to have
Speaker 2: one excellent game and one game where the MAVs role
Speaker 2: players catch fire from three. I think the catch fire
Speaker 2: from three role players game is likely to be game three,
Speaker 2: but we see. Listen. If what I'm asking of Luca
Speaker 2: sounds too much, I don't think it is. What he
Speaker 2: needs to do is what Yannis did when he was
Speaker 2: down two to zero in the finals. That's the path
Speaker 2: Yannis in that game too much like Luca played really well,
Speaker 2: had forty two and four and twelve with four assists,
Speaker 2: but they lost. In the final four games of that
Speaker 2: series against the Suns, he averaged thirty seven thirteen and
Speaker 2: five and a half assists. That's what is going to
Speaker 2: be necessary for the MAVs to win is for Luca
Speaker 2: to go on a run similar to what Yannis did.
Speaker 2: And when Yannis did that, he got rightfully crowned the
Speaker 2: best player in the world. If Luca does that, sorry Jokic, folks,
Speaker 2: I think Luca will be rightfully crowned the best player
Speaker 2: in the world. If if he doesn't, then Jokic's probably
Speaker 2: retains that title. And if Luca is just if he
Speaker 2: is thirty, ten and ten. The rest of the way,
Speaker 2: the Maps don't have a chance. They are not good
Speaker 2: enough to beat the Celtics without Luca being a plus.
Speaker 2: And that's what we're seeing. And if we want to say,
Speaker 2: if he's not a plus, he's an f, so be it.
Speaker 2: I don't look at it that way. I do think
Speaker 2: Boston deserves a ton of credit. I think Boston's defense
Speaker 2: has been excellent, and Boston not having a weak link
Speaker 2: in their five man starting lineup is a huge There's
Speaker 2: nowhere to hide defensively because all five guys can score,
Speaker 2: and there's no easy matchup offensively. And again, if people
Speaker 2: are hearing this and like, well, Nick, so why did
Speaker 2: you pick the Mavericks. I pick the Mavericks because it's
Speaker 2: very difficult for me to go against a team that
Speaker 2: has the best player in the series. Correctly anticipated and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about this more in a moment, that Tatum
Speaker 2: might struggle a bit, and I I this is where
Speaker 2: I totally whiffed. I thought the Celtics lack of competition
Speaker 2: up to this point in the playoffs was going to
Speaker 2: set them at a huge disadvantage, and I.
Speaker 3: Were the opposite way. What go ahead? To get they're
Speaker 3: super rested, they haven't played anybody serious and everybody's on
Speaker 3: full ten. The Mavericks came out, I wouldn't call it
Speaker 3: a dogfight. Obviously they beat the They beat the Timberwolves
Speaker 3: pretty swiftly, but they had to play a lot more
Speaker 3: tougher guys, and I think I think it's catching up.
Speaker 2: And the series against Oklahoma City was brutal, even though
Speaker 2: it only went six games. That you know, the timberl
Speaker 2: series was you're the road team, You're playing a team
Speaker 2: coming off their emotional high. There's there and those if
Speaker 2: you remember the timberl series, those first three games, for
Speaker 2: first two games in particular, came down to the final minute.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, that does take something out of you.
Speaker 2: I mean I thought it would because they still then
Speaker 2: got eight days off. I thought they were going to
Speaker 2: be rested and peak challenged. Instead, it hasn't looked like that,
Speaker 2: and the Celtics have had no problem at all turning
Speaker 2: the switch from all right, these teams can't beat us.
Speaker 2: To need full attention to detail, and they're giving it that.
Speaker 3: I helped a lot. I wonder what that looks like
Speaker 3: if we don't have porzingis in that first, and we also.
Speaker 2: Might find Listen, the Porzingis injury is uh yeah, there
Speaker 2: are two right now flies potentially in the Celtics. Ointment
Speaker 2: one is is house hurt is is porzingis? Sorry? How
Speaker 2: hurt is porzingis? That's a real question mark to the
Speaker 2: point to where I would if I were Boston, I
Speaker 2: would strongly consider resting him in Game three. I know
Speaker 2: it's the finals and that sounds ridiculous, but you have
Speaker 2: a margin of error here, and what you don't want
Speaker 2: is him to go out in Game three not one
Speaker 2: hundred percent and then reaggravate I understand it's the other leg,
Speaker 2: it's not the leg he missed forty days with, but
Speaker 2: reaggravate that or the other one, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you're without him for the rest of the series.
Speaker 2: The other issue for Boston is what Jason Tatum are
Speaker 2: we going to get? Because winning the championship with your
Speaker 2: alleged best player playing at this level would be wildly unprecedented,
Speaker 2: And so we'll talk more about that in a moment,
Speaker 2: but I know there are some pictures and some moments
Speaker 2: from game one that we want to go through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we showed you the meme of you at
Speaker 3: the game already, We've got a couple more for you.
Speaker 3: So is the second one? Yeah, what's what's going on there?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: There? Oh, these are the Getty images right there. I
Speaker 2: mean at this, I'm just saying, can you please drive
Speaker 2: past Sam Hauser? Like, can you please drive past Sam Hauser?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Your mom, I think in that moment, is glancing down
Speaker 2: seeing what people on Twitter are saying about her after
Speaker 2: the picture with her and Simmons and Riscilla went mini viral.
Speaker 2: All right, what's the next one?
Speaker 3: The third one? Here is the Luca You're behind Luca. Oh, oh, that's.
Speaker 2: I'm doing my thing where I lean. Luca hits this
Speaker 2: shot where I do like a lean and then bang.
Speaker 2: And also that we don't have a yeah, so I'm
Speaker 2: hoping he makes it. We also don't we don't have
Speaker 2: a picture of it. And once again, your mom's on Twitter.
Speaker 2: But uh, the there is right before Prichard's buzzer beater,
Speaker 2: I'm standing and as soon as he hits it, I
Speaker 2: sprint to the tunnel because I don't don't want to
Speaker 2: hear like the Boston crowd roar. Like if you watch
Speaker 2: the game footage, you can see me stand up, watch it,
Speaker 2: and then book it like I am out of here
Speaker 2: and so yeah, so that was me the game. By
Speaker 2: the way, I'm not going to say his last name
Speaker 2: because I don't know that he wants me to. But
Speaker 2: a huge shout out and appreciation to Kansas City native
Speaker 2: my new friend Chad, who I had met Chad before.
Speaker 2: Chad's again, I don't want to give too much of
Speaker 2: his personal information. Very very successful, sharp guy who's done
Speaker 2: very well for his life in a bunch of businesses.
Speaker 2: He's from Kansas City, lived in Cali for some time,
Speaker 2: is back in Kansas City. A year ago, Chad invited
Speaker 2: me to a Warriors Kings game, but I couldn't get
Speaker 2: out to California. The reason I had those seats was
Speaker 2: because on Friday, Chad sent me an email and said,
Speaker 2: I have two extra seats for Game two of the finals.
Speaker 2: If you and Demanse want to go, I've got them
Speaker 2: for you. And I said, well, Demanse's in California. And
Speaker 2: I even looked at flights like is there a way
Speaker 2: I was trying to see, is there a way for
Speaker 2: you to get to Boston and then get back to
Speaker 2: LA in time? At right and it was just not
Speaker 2: gonna be you were gonna it was the It was
Speaker 2: to be flying for half the time, right, You've been
Speaker 2: flying for half the time. You'd have to miss Monday
Speaker 2: at work, which I know you don't want to do.
Speaker 2: And it will also be weird, Like, hey, guys, no notice,
Speaker 2: but I'm missing Monday because I'm gonna be court side
Speaker 2: at the finals. It just be weird, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? For you politically at work. I felt like,
Speaker 2: so I didn't even tell you at first, and so
Speaker 2: I emailed them back. I'm like, buddy, I will definitely go.
Speaker 2: Demanse can't. He had also mentioned Wilds. I knew Wilds
Speaker 2: was not going to spend that much time traveling. I
Speaker 2: was like, but you know you can if you want to.
Speaker 2: It's they're your tickets whereever you want with him. But
Speaker 2: I know my wife would come, and he was like,
Speaker 2: I'd love for your wife to come, and he was great.
Speaker 2: So shout out to Chad and U. John, the guy
Speaker 2: who you saw in those pictures, former big time college
Speaker 2: baseball pitcher and professional pitcher, John who was there with
Speaker 2: us as well, had a great time with those guys.
Speaker 2: It was a hell of a night. All right, let's
Speaker 2: go on to the Celtics.
Speaker 3: John, all right, so Jason kids trying to play some
Speaker 3: mining games with the Celtics. He went on the podium
Speaker 3: and said that Jalen Brown is the best player at
Speaker 3: not Jason Tatum. So obviously Tatum hasn't been playing well
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown has. So do you think there's some truth
Speaker 3: to what Jason Kidd is saying there?
Speaker 2: So here's what I think in a vacuum, Jason Tatum
Speaker 2: is better than Jalen Brown. He has more accolades, he
Speaker 2: has more natural talent, he's bigger. I understand that. But
Speaker 2: right now, it's not just that Jalen Brown is out
Speaker 2: playing Jason Tatum. Drew Holliday's out playing Jason Tatum. You
Speaker 2: could argue Derek whitees out playing Jason Tatum. Chris STAPs
Speaker 2: in limited minutes, you could argue is out playing Jason Tatum.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to hear about Honest to god,
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about his rebounds and assists numbers.
Speaker 2: I understand they're good. If you're watching these games, demons A,
Speaker 2: he looks scared. He said after Game one he was
Speaker 2: nervous and then after game two he's like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna let my ego get in the way of
Speaker 2: us winning a championship. Other guys are rolling, buddy. You
Speaker 2: took twenty two shots. No one else on your team
Speaker 2: took more than fifteen. It wasn't a oh, you're doubling me,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna get other people involved. You couldn't hit shots,
Speaker 2: you miss layups. You were one for seven in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. He is right now Finals history since the merger,
Speaker 2: the worst field goal percentage of anyone ever through eight
Speaker 2: career finals games, dating back to the last finals in
Speaker 2: At this point, it's a thing, and it is. It
Speaker 2: is a testament to the team that Brad Stevens put together,
Speaker 2: that your best player can be playing like this and
Speaker 2: you're up to zero in the finals. But I don't
Speaker 2: think there is any I don't I don't think there
Speaker 2: is an argument to be made that, oh, wait, Tatum's
Speaker 2: actually been better than people are giving him credit for.
Speaker 2: Tatum's been really bad and the Celtics are winning despite that,
Speaker 2: your thoughts as a Celtics than.
Speaker 3: I think it's crazy, But I'm I'm not mad at it. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I'm the Celtics fan. I get how it's annoying for
Speaker 3: everybody else, but I love the facts and like are
Speaker 3: considered the best player can play like Kaka and we
Speaker 3: still win. I think it's I think it's awesome. We
Speaker 3: got five guys that could do it. I hope that
Speaker 3: what Tatum is saying is like with his ego, really
Speaker 3: hope that it's not getting to him, But like we're human,
Speaker 3: so I feel like it probably is to say I
Speaker 3: think it has to get to him.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I think it'd be one thing
Speaker 2: if it were a I'm playing well, but one of
Speaker 2: my teammates is playing great and they're getting the credit.
Speaker 2: I think that would be I think that's easier to
Speaker 2: deal with, even if you know what I mean. You all,
Speaker 2: everyone wants to be the star of the movie. I
Speaker 2: get that, but that would be a situation where it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, the we're winning, I'm playing fine,
Speaker 2: this guy's playing great, that's awesome. That's not what's happening.
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday is playing great, Jalen Brown's playing very well.
Speaker 2: But the reason Tatum's where he is is because Tatum
Speaker 2: is playing so poorly. And so it's I think that
Speaker 2: would get to anybody. I think that now what he
Speaker 2: has going for him is because they're up to O demans.
Speaker 2: It's not as if I'm costing my team a chanceampionship.
Speaker 2: But let this, Let game three go the MAVs way
Speaker 2: and Tatum play mediocre and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: see you know what I mean, how he's feeling.
Speaker 3: And then on the other's just gonna get ratcheted up, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the pressure is going on on the other side of it.
Speaker 3: He's going to go back to Dallas and they have
Speaker 3: the two games, and if he shines there, I think
Speaker 3: that everybody kind of forgets about what's happening in the
Speaker 3: first two games.
Speaker 2: He's still the big favorite to win finals. MVP. Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: which is crazy to me, But that to me says
Speaker 2: Vegas thinks that if he is just good, not even
Speaker 2: great the rest of the way, because he has the
Speaker 2: rebound and assists numbers that already look really good, They're like, man,
Speaker 2: he's going to finish these finals if he has a
Speaker 2: couple good scoring games averaging twenty four to ten and eight,
Speaker 2: and people are gonna say and that people are going
Speaker 2: to revisionist history, be like, Oh, was he really that bad?
Speaker 2: Early on? His efficiency has been terrible? All right? You
Speaker 2: want to ask them follow ups here? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you think that Brown's contracts has anything to
Speaker 3: do with this? Like both for his mindset and Tatum's.
Speaker 2: Well, I think Jalen Brown's something to prove. Jalen Brown
Speaker 2: didn't make all NBA. He's always been in trade rumors
Speaker 2: and his contract became something of a punchline. So I
Speaker 2: think he's at he has something to prove, but I
Speaker 2: think it's been in a positive way. What else?
Speaker 3: And the Finals continue to go this way and Tatum
Speaker 3: never gets his moment? How do you think that affects
Speaker 3: the team going into next season?
Speaker 2: If they win? I don't think it affects him negatively
Speaker 2: at all. Maybe you get that bonus of Tatum being
Speaker 2: a champion, but also having a little chip on his shoulder.
Speaker 2: If they lose, that's a whole nother discussion. If the
Speaker 2: Celtics blow a two to zero finals lead, would be
Speaker 2: just the sixth team in NBA history to do it,
Speaker 2: and do it because Tatum, you know, spirals the whole time.
Speaker 2: That has serious US ramifications, But it would be premature
Speaker 2: right now, to talk.
Speaker 3: About that, like, like, what do they even do with
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think they do. I think they run
Speaker 2: it back. I don't think they do anything significant. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying how long of a tail that would have
Speaker 2: on Jason Tatum the basketball player. Like the Celtics were
Speaker 2: up to one in the finals previously, Tatum didn't play
Speaker 2: well and they lost. But you were playing the Warriors
Speaker 2: with Steph Curry. You were twenty four and twenty five
Speaker 2: Tatum and Brown, and so you know, it's like, ah,
Speaker 2: you weren't really supposed to win, even though they kind
Speaker 2: of were once they were up to one. This would
Speaker 2: be a different story entirely. What else?
Speaker 3: Uh, Yeah, Brad Stevens keeps getting all the credit for
Speaker 3: the Celtics team. What about Danny Ainge. Danny Ainge and
Speaker 3: how much credit does he deserve?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, the Tatum and Brown, the KG piercetrade that
Speaker 2: Danny Ainge pulled off, and that netted you Tatum and Brown.
Speaker 2: Of course he gets credit for that. But Brad Stevens
Speaker 2: put the rest of this team together, and and I
Speaker 2: I think, hold on, let me check.
Speaker 3: Derek wait, I could say they're both equally important at
Speaker 3: this point.
Speaker 2: Like the second half of sure, and so Derek White
Speaker 2: was traded on February tenth, twenty twenty twenty two. I
Speaker 2: think that was Brad Stevens. Let me check to make sure.
Speaker 2: So February of twenty two is when he was traded.
Speaker 2: When did he take? Yeah, so Brad, that was so
Speaker 2: Brad Stevens, was Drew hollow was Drew It was Derek White.
Speaker 2: Obviously the Drew Holliday trade, obviously the Christaps trade. Those
Speaker 2: are all Brad Stevens. So Brad Stevens I think gets
Speaker 2: Brad Stevens, by the way, being a great college coach,
Speaker 2: being an excellent NBA coach, and seamlessly transitioning to the
Speaker 2: front office and crushing it. Well, I mean, what a
Speaker 2: run by that guy. There's no no denying it all
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 3: With that, like, I don't know, is there a chance
Speaker 3: that he ever becomes like a commissioner? Oh?
Speaker 2: Wow, I'd never even thought of that. I guess maybe, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not that used to be. How commissioners
Speaker 2: got hired a lot across leagues came from within a
Speaker 2: team and then ascended to the league office. These days,
Speaker 2: it seems to be more like league office lifers that
Speaker 2: move up. But yeah, maybe I mean the theo Epstein
Speaker 2: who helped build the Red build the Red Sox and
Speaker 2: helped build the Cubs and now kind of does bigger
Speaker 2: picture stuff. He was, you know, Steve Alhway's got it.
Speaker 2: Seems to have the brain for almost everything. All right,
Speaker 2: next classic category one by me? Next go ahead.
Speaker 3: So the Lakers are still on the on the hunt
Speaker 3: for their head coach after Dan Hurley turned down. There
Speaker 3: was it six year's seventy million that would have made
Speaker 3: him the sixth highest paid coach according to WOJ. So
Speaker 3: are you excited for JJ Reddick to become the lakers
Speaker 3: new head coach?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: But I mean I saw this coming, Guys. I don't
Speaker 2: want to pat myself on the back. But on this
Speaker 2: show on Thursday, I said I didn't buy Hurley. On
Speaker 2: TV on Thursday said I didn't buy Hurley. On TV Friday,
Speaker 2: when the whole world was measuring drapes for Danny Hurley's
Speaker 2: Lakers office, I said, I didn't buy it. The Lakers
Speaker 2: are not well run flatly and now they have made
Speaker 2: in the since in the last five years, they've had
Speaker 2: multiple coaching changes, They have made two very different mistakes
Speaker 2: now multiple times with two of them. First one was
Speaker 2: publicly go after Tyloo after firing Luke Walton want Tylo,
Speaker 2: lowball him, don't get him, settle on Vogel, and then
Speaker 2: you have the embarrassment of the entire world knowing you're
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers and you didn't get your first choice.
Speaker 2: Whoever you hire is not your first choice. That is
Speaker 2: now going to happen again. Another mistake. After they fired Vogel,
Speaker 2: Rob Bolinka did not hold a press conference. So the
Speaker 2: next time Rob Bolinka spoke to the media was when
Speaker 2: they were they the press conference for Darvin Ham. And
Speaker 2: guess what that press conference turned into relitigating firing Vogel.
Speaker 2: So you have Darvin Ham sitting there awkwardly while Rob
Speaker 2: Bolinka's answering questions he should have answered a month prior.
Speaker 2: What happened this time they fired Ham, never addressed it
Speaker 2: to the media, and now whomever they hire, that press
Speaker 2: conference is going to be about what happened with Ham
Speaker 2: because you never dealt with that, and what happened with
Speaker 2: Hurley because you're publicly missed on that. And so there
Speaker 2: are two options as to why Dan Hurley is not
Speaker 2: the Lakers coach. Option one, they publicly targeted a guy,
Speaker 2: leaked it, let wog know, let everyone know, uh, made
Speaker 2: a big story of it, and then they were unable
Speaker 2: to land their candidate, either out of cheapness or incompetence.
Speaker 2: That's option one. Option two is this, they never expected
Speaker 2: to hire Danny Hurley, but they wanted the world to know,
Speaker 2: or at least believe, Oh, we're not settling just for
Speaker 2: you know, JJ Reddick. We're going after the best and
Speaker 2: the brightest, and oh darn, what do you expect? Nothing
Speaker 2: we could do and it was pr Both of those
Speaker 2: options suck. Both of those options screamed incompetence. And one
Speaker 2: of my favorite scenes for one of my favorite movies ever,
Speaker 2: Ace Rothstein saying to the guy in casino after somebody
Speaker 2: hits three jackpots in a row, which there was a scam.
Speaker 2: Either either you were you're too incompetent to know you're
Speaker 2: being scammed, or you're in on the scam. Either way
Speaker 2: you gotta go. Either you really wanted Danny Hurley and
Speaker 2: you couldn't land him, or this was all a pr
Speaker 2: ruse that you thought would work in your favor because
Speaker 2: you couldn't game out. We're gonna look either super cheap
Speaker 2: or super incompetent, and you thought this was gonna be
Speaker 2: a pr win either way. Someone tell me what Rob
Speaker 2: the Lincoln, the Lakers front office has done in a
Speaker 2: decade to show you they know what they're doing. Well, Nick,
Speaker 2: they won a championship. If not for the fact that
Speaker 2: Lebron James graced your organization with a free agency decision
Speaker 2: six years ago, you're in the wilderness for a decade
Speaker 2: as the Lakers. They're a poorly run mom and pop operation,
Speaker 2: that's what they are. And so I and the fact
Speaker 2: if this was all just Bobby Hurley, I'm sorry, that's
Speaker 2: his dad, Dan Hurley, leveraging the Lakers through Adrian wodron Erowski,
Speaker 2: who literally wrote a book on Dan Hurley's father that
Speaker 2: is in the camera shot of all of his ESPN appearances,
Speaker 2: the Miracle at Saint Anthony or whatever it was. And
Speaker 2: you couldn't see this coming from a mile away. I
Speaker 2: saw it coming six days ago on this podcast. So
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do. I honestly don't
Speaker 2: probably end up settling on JJ, but I really hope
Speaker 2: Lebron leaves Man. And here's the other thing. They fired
Speaker 2: Darvinham six weeks ago, Buddy, they still don't have a coach.
Speaker 2: The draft is in two weeks, free agency opens in
Speaker 2: three weeks. They don't have a coach. It's remarkable, It's
Speaker 2: absolutely remarkable. Go ahead, what'd you want to say?
Speaker 3: Do you think this is anything more than a leverage
Speaker 3: play by Hurley? Or as you like, there's that side
Speaker 3: of it, or as you kind of extension.
Speaker 2: Here's what I know. Somehow the Lakers got publicly associated
Speaker 2: with Jason Kidd, even though he has a better job
Speaker 2: for a better organization, and that ended with Kid getting
Speaker 2: a rais and an extension. Somehow, the Lakers got publicly
Speaker 2: associated with Tylu even though he has a higher paying
Speaker 2: job for the richest owner in sports, and that ended
Speaker 2: with Tylu getting an extension and a raise. Somehow he
Speaker 2: got the Lakers got associated with Dan Hurley, and that
Speaker 2: ended with Dan Hurley getting a raised in an extension.
Speaker 2: People can draw whatever conclusions they want. Everyone thinks that
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark discourse is uncomfortable. Now give it like another
Speaker 2: two days. We'll discuss why plus do a little tennis
Speaker 2: corner with my Guy Alcarez. Next, What's Right? Welcome back
Speaker 2: in What's Right? With Nick Right? This is so perfect.
Speaker 2: By the way, Christian McCaffrey's going to be on the
Speaker 2: cover of Madden. Good for him. I obviously have a
Speaker 2: different candidate that I think would have made.
Speaker 3: A little more ago three years ago.
Speaker 2: Mahomes, What about Travis Kelcey, I don't know, maybe the
Speaker 2: most famous football player, who's the greatest tight end ever.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Probably some more units. Guys, listen to
Speaker 2: EA Sports. I'm not telling you I'll do your business.
Speaker 2: But if you want to sell units to people who
Speaker 2: will never even open the game, maybe throw Travis kels
Speaker 2: just an idea, just thought it could be a good
Speaker 2: marketing idea. Maybe throw Travis kelce on the cover. It's
Speaker 2: just listen. I'm not I'm not here to tell you
Speaker 2: guys how to do your business. Uh, but go ahead
Speaker 2: and put Christian McCaffrey on there. That's fine. Rich so
Speaker 2: many has this is Gabe here today? I want Gabe's
Speaker 2: live reaction if he's here today. No, no Gabe today,
Speaker 2: that's fine. Gabees are resident Jets fan. Aaron Rodgers not
Speaker 2: attending Mini camp and it is not an excused absence,
Speaker 2: therefore he's subject to being fined. Sola said Rogers had
Speaker 2: a previous engagement, an event that is quote important to
Speaker 2: him end quote. This is no Ta's This isn't the
Speaker 2: optional part of the off season. This is the Jets
Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp and Aaron Rodgers something you know had
Speaker 2: are not something came up, not a family emergency which
Speaker 2: any could happen to anybody. Oh man, I'm double booked.
Speaker 2: The old I'm double booked. What am I gonna? I got?
Speaker 2: I was double booked. Uh, you know the A few
Speaker 2: weeks ago, I had a I had a charity event
Speaker 2: I needed to do, and I needed to go to
Speaker 2: the premiere of the Black Twitter uh documentary that my
Speaker 2: friend Princess Penny created. Shout out to Prentice, great guy,
Speaker 2: creator of Insecure, created the Black Twitter documentary on Hulu.
Speaker 2: And I was sick to my stomach that I was
Speaker 2: double booked, and I had to reach out to Prentice
Speaker 2: and say, I can't be there. My wife can go.
Speaker 2: You know, she was gonna go anyway. She's she can
Speaker 2: go and bring and bring someone kind of you know,
Speaker 2: represent on our behalf because I'm committed to a charity
Speaker 2: event that I you know, I had to, and Prentice
Speaker 2: understood because he's a great guy. That sometimes you're double
Speaker 2: booked and it forces you to choose either what's most
Speaker 2: important or where you're most needed. Aaron Rodgers is double
Speaker 2: booked with the team that pays him forty million to
Speaker 2: lead them to a super Bowl, that he's played three
Speaker 2: snaps of NFL football for their mandate first mandatory event
Speaker 2: of the off season, and something else, and thus something
Speaker 2: else took priority. Okay, I mean, okay, do what you
Speaker 2: want with that information. But that is what it is.
Speaker 3: Could it could be something it's like super important. I
Speaker 3: wonder if it'll ever come out what it is.
Speaker 2: But uh, here's the thing. I would be much more
Speaker 2: careful with how I discussed this if it were an
Speaker 2: unexplained absence, because then you don't know if you know
Speaker 2: someone's in a hospital something, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: don't you know?
Speaker 3: Because the explanation is it's something that's very important to me.
Speaker 2: Had a Robert Salas said, quote, Rogers had a previous
Speaker 2: engagement an event that is important to him. I mean,
Speaker 2: what more do I need to know? What more do
Speaker 2: I need to know? It's not an excused apps. So
Speaker 2: it's not birth of a child. It's not last second
Speaker 2: came up, so an emergency. It's June eleventh. I knew
Speaker 2: I had something going on. I shouldn't have committed to that.
Speaker 2: Oh what else did you have going on?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Mandatory mini camp for the team. I'm the quarterback of that.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about how I'm gonna be the leader. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, cool, let's see how this works out, all right, Demonse,
Speaker 2: Let's talk Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, the the Olympic roster was released and there
Speaker 3: was one notable emission in there, and that is Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3: She says that she's using the snub as motivation. And
Speaker 3: my question to you is, if you were in charge
Speaker 3: of Team of USA, would you put Caitlyn Clark on
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 2: Maybe? So, I don't think this is simple, Mike, can
Speaker 2: I Can I guess your take Demonse real quick before
Speaker 2: I I before we do it, and I guess yours.
Speaker 3: And you tell me if I'm right on my take
Speaker 3: on like if she like if I would put her
Speaker 3: on the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think your take is she's not yet one of
Speaker 2: the twelve best players. She's gonna have plenty of Olympics
Speaker 2: in the future. She would be taking a roster spot
Speaker 2: from someone else, and being famous doesn't mean you are
Speaker 2: deserved Olympian yet. So this is not a controversy, is that,
Speaker 2: am I? I should have just let you give your take. Really,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I wanted to see correctly. Oh okay, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: It's not super far from that, but but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think I would have put her on the team.
Speaker 3: You would of her, wouldn't I would have put her
Speaker 3: on the team.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: But that's let me be honest. I'm not super in
Speaker 3: tune with all that. I know a few of NBA
Speaker 3: stars that are that are up there. I don't know
Speaker 3: eleven girls that are better than her yep at the moment.
Speaker 3: But that's just that's just me.
Speaker 2: That's because you're not locked into the league, which is
Speaker 2: totally fine. So, but you're you're so I so I
Speaker 2: just guessed wrong about where you were leaning you were
Speaker 2: leaning of. It's not like she's a bad player. She's
Speaker 2: obviously a really good player, and she would bring eyeballs
Speaker 2: to it. Here's the here's here's why. Let me back up.
Speaker 2: Here's why it's going to get ugly. If it's not
Speaker 2: already ugly, it's going to get ugly because this is
Speaker 2: about to jump into the worst parts of American politics
Speaker 2: there are. Because unfortunately, some of our most craven politicians
Speaker 2: have seized on this as a white grievance, as all
Speaker 2: this poor white girl being picked on in this black league,
Speaker 2: and Nikki Haley, who might be the next Vice president
Speaker 2: of the United States, tweeted this. Let me get this straight.
Speaker 2: No player on the Olympic team has scored more three
Speaker 2: pointers this year in the WNBA than Caitlin Clark. Tell
Speaker 2: me you don't know anything about sports, without telling me
Speaker 2: you don't know anything about sports, rather than saying scored
Speaker 2: more three pointers. Only one woman on the Olympic team
Speaker 2: has more assists than Clark, and the US is not
Speaker 2: gonna include her on the Olympic team. I think the
Speaker 2: Olympic selection committee should be asked, do we want the
Speaker 2: best team to represent our country or not? Okay, if
Speaker 2: it is purely have the best team, she doesn't deserve
Speaker 2: to be there. However, there is a legitimate argument that
Speaker 2: that is not what the Olympic team is actually because
Speaker 2: if it's purely to have the best team, Diana Tarazzi's
Speaker 2: not one of the twelve best players now. Diana doing
Speaker 2: what she's doing at forty two is remarkable. She might
Speaker 2: be the greatest player ever. And much like Caitlin her numbers.
Speaker 2: She averages the exact same number of points, the exact
Speaker 2: same number of rebounds, on the exact same field goal
Speaker 2: percentage as Caitlin. Now, she's one assist and one turnover
Speaker 2: a game and Caitlyn is six assists and five turnovers
Speaker 2: a game. So call that almost a wash, But statistically
Speaker 2: they're almost identical. Diana got a legacy spot and leadership
Speaker 2: as well. I'm fine with it, just like I would
Speaker 2: have been fine with them saying Caitlin's super famous and
Speaker 2: she's a good player, let's put her on there. I'm
Speaker 2: also fine with them saying we don't want to take
Speaker 2: a spot from someone else. I actually think there is
Speaker 2: a totally reasonable argument on both sides of this. I
Speaker 2: also think this whole oh my god, squandered opportunity, think
Speaker 2: of all the eyeballs that would have been there, is
Speaker 2: miss guided because she wouldn't have been playing that much.
Speaker 2: And if folks are only watching to watch Caitlyn. If
Speaker 2: they turn on the game and Caitlyn isn't starting and
Speaker 2: isn't the first sub off the bench, and we go
Speaker 2: the whole first quarter and she doesn't play, they're turning
Speaker 2: it off anyway. So I think it would have had
Speaker 2: more media coverage, But there's a push and a pull
Speaker 2: to that media coverage. That media coverage would have been
Speaker 2: Caitlyn almost exclusive. So I don't think it's simple. I
Speaker 2: actually think this one's complicated. I also think that the
Speaker 2: Christine Brennan article where a couple people from USA Basketball
Speaker 2: said that one of the reasons she's not on the
Speaker 2: team is because they didn't want to deal with the
Speaker 2: blowback from her millions of fans being pissed she's not
Speaker 2: playing more is one of the most ridiculous rationales I've
Speaker 2: ever heard. That is once again folks pretending like Twitter
Speaker 2: is real life. These the Olympics are in Paris. What
Speaker 2: the hell do you care about what someone tweets from Indiana?
Speaker 2: Like you're like, oh, we don't want to deal with it.
Speaker 2: What are you dealing with your mentions? Like, honestly, do
Speaker 2: you think folks today, Caitlin Clark fans are gonna fly
Speaker 2: to Paris in August and cause upheaval the Olympic Games
Speaker 2: because she's not getting run. Just a dumb argument, like
Speaker 2: what are we talking about? Everyone is scared of mean tweets,
Speaker 2: so that was I thought that was foolish. I also
Speaker 2: think anyone and this is where I'm going to make
Speaker 2: all of my colleagues mad, because colleagues I greatly respect
Speaker 2: are diametrically opposed on this issue, and I think they're
Speaker 2: both crazy. I think that if you get on TV
Speaker 2: and say it is absurd to even consider putting her
Speaker 2: on the team, here are the twenty women who are
Speaker 2: better than her. It is simply about the best twelve
Speaker 2: person roster and this shouldn't even be a debate. I
Speaker 2: think that is being a little disingenuous, especially with Diana's inclusion,
Speaker 2: and especially because we've won the gold seven Olympics in
Speaker 2: a row. It would be twelve in a row. But
Speaker 2: there was one year in ninety two that the Soviet
Speaker 2: Union fake reformed and they had like eleven countries represented
Speaker 2: on one team and they beat us, or they won
Speaker 2: the gold. We win every year by twenty points. We
Speaker 2: weren't gonna risk the gold by having the league's twenty
Speaker 2: third best player instead of the twelve best player. So
Speaker 2: that's first of all. I also think that if you
Speaker 2: go on TV and say, oh my god, what an
Speaker 2: idiotic decision to put her on the team, what a
Speaker 2: massively missed opportunity, squandered attention, I think you're being a
Speaker 2: little disingenuous on how much attention it would it would Garner,
Speaker 2: and that there are real consequences of giving a roster
Speaker 2: spot to someone and taking it away from someone else.
Speaker 2: So I actually think this is nuanced. Unfortunately, here's my prediction.
Speaker 2: At a White House press conference, probably the doucy guy
Speaker 2: from Fox News, but maybe someone else is going to
Speaker 2: ask the White House spokesperson, does the President have a
Speaker 2: comment on Caitlyn Clark. They're going to say no. And
Speaker 2: then in the next thirty days, Caitlin Clark's name is
Speaker 2: going to be an applause line at a Donald Trump rally.
Speaker 2: And this young lady didn't ask for that, and she
Speaker 2: didn't deserve it. But there is a segment of a
Speaker 2: and I am not saying this about Caitlin Clark fans,
Speaker 2: I promise you I am not. But there is a
Speaker 2: segment of America that if there is an opportunity to
Speaker 2: take ostensibly the white athlete side against the big, mean,
Speaker 2: bullying black athletes, they will seize to that like moths
Speaker 2: to a flame. And there are craven, uh disingenuous politicians
Speaker 2: that are going to use her as a cudgel in
Speaker 2: our never ending culture war. And I think this Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clerk conversation is just going to get uglier and uglier.
Speaker 2: I feel badly for Caitlin. I feel badly for the
Speaker 2: women that have helped build the WNBA that are seeing
Speaker 2: this what could be a great moment consistently hijacked. And
Speaker 2: I just think it's gonna get worse and worse. And
Speaker 2: by the way, she's an alternate, she's one of the
Speaker 2: first alternates. And if she gets picked and a goon
Speaker 2: Ba Wale from the Dallas Wings does not, when she's
Speaker 2: averaging twenty six, five and six, and you know it
Speaker 2: has been one of the best players in the whole
Speaker 2: league this year, it's gonna get even worse. Man, So
Speaker 2: I am pessimistic about our Caitlyn Clark conversations moving forward.
Speaker 2: Uh So I'm on the record on all of it.
Speaker 2: We'll see how it turns out one sidebar thing. This
Speaker 2: is actually good for Caitlin the basketball player. A month off,
Speaker 2: A month off, not in the spotlight the team, if
Speaker 2: you I don't know, if you guys notice last week
Speaker 2: when I saw them out of their brutal schedule, they
Speaker 2: then had four days off and she dropped a thirty
Speaker 2: piece in her next game. She played poorly this weekend,
Speaker 2: but they have no more back to backs, the schedule
Speaker 2: softens up massively and she will end up being more fresh,
Speaker 2: more rested, and play well at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: And I think the fever to twelve to the fevers
Speaker 2: records terrible. But twelve team league and eight of them
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, so you don't have to have a
Speaker 2: great record to make the playoffs. I think they could
Speaker 2: squeeze into the playoffs. I also didn't like her coach yesterday,
Speaker 2: coming out yesterday saying our team doesn't try hard enough.
Speaker 2: Like that, whenever the coach is like, can't coach effort?
Speaker 2: A coach knows their seats getting a little hot. All right,
Speaker 2: let's talk tennis for a moment, demanse.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So on Sunday, Carlos Alcaraz defeated Alexander Zverev to
Speaker 3: win the French Open. At twenty one, Alcarez became the
Speaker 3: youngest player to win a Grand Slam on all three surfaces.
Speaker 2: What do the dog gets, demanse? What are the three s?
Speaker 3: Clay gass, right, yep. Yeah, and there's clay grass.
Speaker 2: Just just just called hard concrete, concrete, yeah, hardcourt. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll give it to you. You got the two harder ones.
Speaker 2: Good job? Is he tennis car corner? You thought it
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna get anything in there? What are the four majors?
Speaker 2: Do you know? What are the four majors?
Speaker 3: Major? What are they called? French Open? Yes, the Grand Slam.
Speaker 2: No, that's one of the Grand Slams. They're all four.
Speaker 2: There are four Grand Slams.
Speaker 3: The French Open, the US Open, yep.
Speaker 2: And one other location, yes, and the last one, the
Speaker 2: one where we talk about strawberries and cream and we
Speaker 2: use accents and we talk about the All England.
Speaker 3: British Open, and it's on grass, British British Open, wimbled that's.
Speaker 2: Golf, Wimbledon, Wimbledon. There there you go, You're there, We're
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, as you were with the all getting bounced
Speaker 3: early and Yokovic getting hurt was the Was this the
Speaker 3: official passing of the torch?
Speaker 2: Yes, we man there was this time when Federer. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is where I wrote, going from federal at all,
Speaker 2: Djokovic right in Nicolosaker as truly sublime. What a brilliant
Speaker 2: talent this kid is. I was watching this live on
Speaker 2: my computer on the train to Boston. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: unbelievable and at twenty one years old, doing what he's
Speaker 2: doing and already having this resume is I mean, just
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think unprecedented is a fair word,
Speaker 2: but he's bordering up against unprecedented. And so in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two he won the US Open. I was there
Speaker 2: for the no, I was there for to see him
Speaker 2: losing the semis the next year. So once he really
Speaker 2: got rolling was the US Open in twenty Okay, here's
Speaker 2: what he did has done since then. Didn't play in
Speaker 2: the Australian Open in twenty twenty three, then made the
Speaker 2: semis of the French last year, won Wimbledon last year
Speaker 2: when the semis of the U or sorry, lost in
Speaker 2: the semis of the US Open last year. I was
Speaker 2: at that the Australian this year made it to the
Speaker 2: quarters and then he won the French. So in his
Speaker 2: last six majors he has won three, lost in the
Speaker 2: semis twice and lost in the quarters once. He's gotta
Speaker 2: be the favorite at Wimbledon. He's, well, he's gonna be
Speaker 2: the favorite and everything. I'm gonna get to watch him
Speaker 2: at the US Open this year. I can't wait.
Speaker 4: And so he is.
Speaker 2: He's on one hell of a pace man and he
Speaker 2: has a lot of youngest ever records and this last
Speaker 2: one is the most notable win a Grand Slam on
Speaker 2: the three different services. It's on believable. All right, demanse Uh,
Speaker 2: let's move on to the last topic and then we'll
Speaker 2: get in to our f one minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Lamar Jackson was not a huge fan of
Speaker 3: you leaving him out of the top five.
Speaker 2: You tweeted tu and he said, yeah, we can show you.
Speaker 2: You can show you the first tweet.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He said, I don't even know. Uh, I don't even
Speaker 2: know buddy. Or what what did you do to buddy?
Speaker 2: The guy asked, said, I don't even know you. I
Speaker 2: don't even know dude. I mean his thing. He's been
Speaker 2: on the TV show maybe he didn't recognize me. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but that wasn't really the problem tweet. The
Speaker 2: problem tweet was then, you know, he sent out a
Speaker 2: picture of some type of monkey that I don't know
Speaker 2: what type of monkey it is, but it's the monkey
Speaker 2: with the real long nose, and it's about me. So
Speaker 2: such his life. I root for Lamar. I I'm just
Speaker 2: honest that he's not one of the five quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: I could pick if I were starting a team. He's not.
Speaker 2: He's not one of them. Here is the best part
Speaker 2: of It's a what probiscus monkeys? Proboscis? Okay, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: That's what he tweeted a picture of that. Here is
Speaker 2: what I love about this so much. The clip that
Speaker 2: went viral of me doing my top five mid so
Speaker 2: it's chopped up and midway through that discussion of top
Speaker 2: five quarterbacks, somehow our sunglasses conversation came up and Demanse
Speaker 2: was handed pit vipers, those silly like baseball player sunglasses.
Speaker 2: So in this clip that has now been viewed millions
Speaker 2: of times, Demanse and I are talking quarterbacks. I'm doing
Speaker 2: my ranking. Demanse pushes back. I respond, Demanse then pushes
Speaker 2: back again, and that third time it goes to Demanse
Speaker 2: without explanation, totally straight faced. He's wearing these sunglasses, and
Speaker 2: it just is such a hilarious situation where we're just
Speaker 2: doing quarterback rankings and then for no reason mid segment,
Speaker 2: it looks like Demanse put on a pair of the
Speaker 2: world's worse sunglasses, and I just love it. Brings me
Speaker 2: so much joy to Monse. Knowing that Lamar Jackson was
Speaker 2: sitting at his phone one day and saw a clip
Speaker 2: involving you where you're all of a sudden wearing those sunglasses,
Speaker 2: it just legitimately makes me happy.
Speaker 3: We don't mention anything about it, and it is like
Speaker 3: straight on pace and we're still talking exactly.
Speaker 2: Because it's chopped up. There's no acknowledgment, there's no anything.
Speaker 2: It's just all of a sudden, you go from looking
Speaker 2: normal to wearing these sunglasses. Makes me so happy. We
Speaker 2: had an F one race this weekend, which means we
Speaker 2: have our first ever F one recap minute with Sierra Fedel.
Speaker 2: That's next plus your questions What's right? All right? Welcome
Speaker 2: back in What's Right with Nick Wright. So as we
Speaker 2: are doing now our F one correspondent Sierra Fidel. If
Speaker 2: there is a race that weekend, she will give us
Speaker 2: a preview on Thursday and then a recap on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I tried to watch the race from my hotel room
Speaker 2: in Boston. I was not able to do it. It
Speaker 2: wasn't on any of the channels that we had in Boston.
Speaker 2: Before I went to the game, I did. I do
Speaker 2: know Max verststap in one. I also know that Sierra's
Speaker 2: notes from the last time were again not to be
Speaker 2: afraid to show personality, to give real predictions. I don't
Speaker 2: know how much predictions will work in a recap, and
Speaker 2: I told her that last time her background was a
Speaker 2: little too empty. I have not seen this yet. We
Speaker 2: will see it. I'm told it's about two and a
Speaker 2: half minutes long, a real race recap. Oh, I'm now
Speaker 2: seeing a preview.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: Not only had she had a plan to the background,
Speaker 2: there's a little race car behind her. Now that's smart.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: Here is our F one minute with Sierra Fidel.
Speaker 4: Hey ya, it's Tuesday, so that makes his time for
Speaker 4: a race recap with me. Sierra Fidel, And let me
Speaker 4: tell you the last Grand Prix that just took place
Speaker 4: in Montreal, Canada, was probably the most exciting race of
Speaker 4: the entire Fuen season thus far. Two things that happened
Speaker 4: that nobody expected. Number one are double for our DNF Now,
Speaker 4: Charles the Clerk has finished in the top four for
Speaker 4: the entire F one season thus far, so the fact
Speaker 4: that he didn't finish this weekend at all is a
Speaker 4: little bit upsetting, and Carlos signs who had faith in
Speaker 4: oh no, So that everybody's predictions off, including mine. Number two,
Speaker 4: we have both Mercedes and the top four finishers this weekend,
Speaker 4: which nobody going into the weekend pre qualifying, nobody would
Speaker 4: have expected that. Now, the disappointment in the Ferrari garage,
Speaker 4: as well as the disappointment for a Ferrari fans, did
Speaker 4: not only start on Sunday. They finished Q two and qualifying,
Speaker 4: which means they started in eleventh and twelfth on the grid.
Speaker 4: Now on Sunday we have the Grand Prix, but before
Speaker 4: the Grand Prix we have qualifying which sets the grid
Speaker 4: up for the actual race on Sunday, So we have
Speaker 4: three sessions of qualifying kind of in a knockout format
Speaker 4: where the top five slowest drivers are eliminated essentially, so
Speaker 4: their lap times are recorded, sets the grid sets the
Speaker 4: stage for the race on Sunday, so the fastest pat
Speaker 4: time is rewarded with pole position. This weekend, George Russell
Speaker 4: got old position which enabled him to start in the
Speaker 4: very front in the Grand Prix on Sunday. With that explained,
Speaker 4: Ferrari started eleven and twelve on the grid, meaning they
Speaker 4: got knocked out in Q two. Everybody was disappointed. Everybody
Speaker 4: had the head in the hands. Everybody was confused as
Speaker 4: to why they were performing this badly. Considering Charles m
Speaker 4: clerk just won his home race in Monaco last weekend,
Speaker 4: we were all just a little shocked. But the disappointment
Speaker 4: didn't just start there, but our actual top program pre
Speaker 4: finishers this weekend, we're number one Extra Sappened, two Lando Norris,
Speaker 4: three George Russell and four Lewis Hamilton. Let me just
Speaker 4: say this matters. Appen may have won this race, but
Speaker 4: it's starting to become more difficult because these teams are
Speaker 4: definitely stepping up. As the twenty twenty four Formula One
Speaker 4: season continues to progress, it's becoming more and more competitive
Speaker 4: and that's what we want to see and it makes
Speaker 4: the coming races more trying to watch. So I hope
Speaker 4: you guys tune in. That's it for other race recap
Speaker 4: in Montreal, Canada. I'll see you next time.
Speaker 2: All right, great work, Sierras So DEMONSI here's what suck
Speaker 2: out to me. Sierra gave a prediction before the race
Speaker 2: of her top four, and then she's spent a good
Speaker 2: deal of her race recap explaining why that prediction went awry.
Speaker 2: This is this is a common theme, especially and if
Speaker 2: you're new to sports media, but even if you're a
Speaker 2: veteran in sports media, it's sometimes less about to you
Speaker 2: what actually happened and more about why you didn't get
Speaker 2: it exactly right. So we heard a lot about why's
Speaker 2: le clerk and sayings, my guy, didn't you know what
Speaker 2: went wrong for them? And less about you know, how
Speaker 2: Lewis Hamilton or whomever did what they did. I also
Speaker 2: would like to dive into further why it's tightening up
Speaker 2: for Verstappen, because it seems like Verstappen wins every race. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know clearly enough about this stuff to know.
Speaker 2: I would think he has like an insurmountable lead, but
Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't. But there was Sierra with the f
Speaker 2: one minute our first race recap. I wish I could
Speaker 2: have watched it, hey the or watched the actual race.
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm I'm dipping my toe into the f
Speaker 2: one waters thanks to our you know, my goddaughter, your godsister,
Speaker 2: Sierra Fidel, go ahead, demant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was just perplex on now too.
Speaker 3: Ferraris didn't finish.
Speaker 2: Yes, was there? That's the other thing, Sierra, since you're
Speaker 2: watching this, uh one other just live note? Did they crash?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that the reason you don't finish? You gotta get
Speaker 2: in mind if I don't know what's happened, Like, did
Speaker 2: they why didn't they finish? I assume there was a crash.
Speaker 2: That would be the only reason I don't finish, But
Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh and so the so the raps
Speaker 2: Downing says a single Ferrari DNF is crazy, but a
Speaker 2: double Ferrari DNF is unheard of.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Player one fast cars in Canada doesn't get more exciting.
Speaker 2: Uh And Scott Frazier says Montreal brings the best out
Speaker 2: of everyone. Yeah, and dnf is did not finish that
Speaker 2: I knew that that one I was able to deduce,
Speaker 2: why can't Nick by Sierra Mike? Does he require two
Speaker 2: hundred thousand subcount for the mic purchase? Listen, we are
Speaker 2: doing this in steps. Not only is Sierra at some
Speaker 2: point soon going to have a mic, she is also
Speaker 2: going to have a uniform, if you will. But we
Speaker 2: just wait and see as it comes. And they're also
Speaker 2: telling me to tell you guys like rate and subscribe
Speaker 2: to the channel. All right, Deman s let's ask a
Speaker 2: couple questions. Then I have to get to work.
Speaker 3: Okay, then that was a little insulting, but Scott Murphy.
Speaker 2: Explain that did not finish. Yeah, yeah, I mean that
Speaker 2: one maybe thought the audience didn't know, but I could
Speaker 2: have figured that out. But go ahead.
Speaker 3: Scott Murphy asked if every team added their goat at
Speaker 3: his peak to their current roster at the beginning of
Speaker 3: the season, what two teams would have met in the finals?
Speaker 2: Well, so that's trick, Like, does does the Calves adding
Speaker 2: peak Lebron? Uh take current Lebron off the Lakers? Like that?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That's a real question because
Speaker 2: if the current Lakers got to add peak Kareem, Oh,
Speaker 2: you know what the Calves add Peak No, so here's
Speaker 2: the Or do the Bucks get to add Peakluel Sinder
Speaker 2: because no one's beating that Giannis and and peak Kareem
Speaker 2: slash Like. I don't that that's a great question, but
Speaker 2: it also I I I almost need to investigate more
Speaker 2: who loses who? Like, do the Lakers get to keep
Speaker 2: current Lebron and just add you know, peak Kareem or
Speaker 2: do they lose current Lebron because he's moved over to
Speaker 2: the to the Calves to be peak Lebron. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: All right, next makes sense?
Speaker 3: Nick Wright Muse asked, what are the chances we see
Speaker 3: you in Dallas with Mahomes for Game three or four?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, no, zero percent. I'm in Dallas for Game three.
Speaker 2: I would say it's possible I'm in Dallas for Game four.
Speaker 2: Uh listen, I don't wanna. I wouldn't be in. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna invite myself along with you know, it'd be
Speaker 2: Patrick's plus one. But if I were in Dallas for
Speaker 2: Game four, then i'd see Patrick. But there's no chance
Speaker 2: I'm there for game three. There's a slight chance I'm
Speaker 2: there for Game four. Let's see how game three goes first.
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, last one.
Speaker 3: Demansey producers ask, if you had to choose between playing
Speaker 3: a young Snape or a young Count Dooku and movie
Speaker 3: and a movie slash TV show, which role would you choose?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well so, I mean so that's oh, that's Snape.
Speaker 3: Oh uh, I'm just saying you look so much like
Speaker 3: the other guys.
Speaker 2: I'd pick Count Dooku since he's based on me, and
Speaker 2: since Disney owes me millions of dollars of royalties. All right,
Speaker 2: fun show, I gotta go to work. I'll see you
Speaker 2: guys on the Herd in a little over an hour.
Speaker 2: See on TV in a little over three hours. What's right? Hey,
Speaker 2: thanks for watching. If you're still here, do me a favor.
Speaker 2: Hit the subscribe button, then hit the bell so you
Speaker 2: can be notified when we have new episodes. After you've
Speaker 2: done that, one more favor, go to your favorite audio
Speaker 2: platform of choice and subscribe there as well. Don't forget
Speaker 2: we're live every Tuesday and Thursday ten thirty am Eastern
Speaker 2: Ish ten thirty five, ten forty. It sometimes changes, but
Speaker 2: that's why you hit the bell. You hit the bell
Speaker 2: so you're notified. You subscribe, so we can get to
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand followers. We're right around one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand. We'd love to get to two hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: Get demonsay another plaque, so like subscribe rate, send a rating, doo,
Speaker 2: do all that cool stuff. Thanks guys,