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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of the program. Congratulations to the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs advancing to the Super Bowl. Novak Djokovic

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Speaker 1: will probably talk about that at some point wins the

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Speaker 1: Australian Open in a victory for everyone who has refused

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Speaker 1: to get the COVID shots because it is worthless, but

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Speaker 1: good news to start on Monday, there were significantly no

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Speaker 1: riots of consequence in the wake of the Tyree Nichols

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Speaker 1: video release around six pm Central on Friday afternoon evening

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Speaker 1: across the country. I know there were some small scattered

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Speaker 1: flare ups, but by and large everything remained for the

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Speaker 1: most part peaceful, and that is a very good thing,

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Speaker 1: because the fear was that once more the summer of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty rioting would unspool across the nation. Now, Buck,

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Speaker 1: what I would argue here is that's because ultimately, Black

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Speaker 1: Lives Matter only gets angry when black lives are impacted

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Speaker 1: and white people are involved in those lives being taken,

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Speaker 1: and therefore it's really not black lives matter, it's black

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Speaker 1: lives matter. In the parenthetical when white people are involved

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Speaker 1: in black death. Because when the video came out, this

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Speaker 1: video to me was far worse and the videos, I

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Speaker 1: should say, of these five police officers in Memphis, what

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Speaker 1: they did to Tyree Nichols was far worse to me

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Speaker 1: than and what happened to George Floyd on video. And

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Speaker 1: if you consider that, while you might be upset about

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Speaker 1: George Floyd's interaction with the police and the way it

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Speaker 1: went and believe it was criminal, as it has been

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Speaker 1: proven to be, there was a reason police were called

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Speaker 1: because George Floyd was trying to pass a counterfeit bill

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Speaker 1: and he was also on drugs, so police work specifically

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Speaker 1: requested in this situation with Tyree Nichols. There does not

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Speaker 1: seem to have been buck any reason for the initial

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Speaker 1: police stop to have taken place, and all of the

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Speaker 1: violence that ensued since, to me is far worse than

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Speaker 1: what we saw happened to George Floyd. Yet, and I

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Speaker 1: would submit this is the reason. Because it was five

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Speaker 1: black police officers, there was virtually no riot. The media

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Speaker 1: has tried to argue and will play see in MSNBC

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Speaker 1: the like I tried to argue, Oh, this is still

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Speaker 1: an example of white supremacy, but most people just simply

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Speaker 1: don't believe it. And so it's a positive sign that

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Speaker 1: there was no rioting, pillaging, looting, so to speak. Buck.

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Speaker 1: But also this just further epitomizes because the video was

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Speaker 1: as bad or worse than I anticipated it was going

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Speaker 1: to be that really they can only mobilize when there

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Speaker 1: are white people that are involved in misbehavior or potential

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Speaker 1: criminal allegations. I think we should have the discussion about

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Speaker 1: police and policing now that they always say, now is

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Speaker 1: the time for reform or now is the time to

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Speaker 1: do something about law enforcement. Let's look at the reality

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Speaker 1: of law enforcement in Memphis right now, Let's understand what's

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Speaker 1: actually going on. As we said last Friday, before the

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Speaker 1: video was out, before we had seen it, because the

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Speaker 1: show ended prior to the release, they wanted to get

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Speaker 1: rid of this a scorpion that was the initial call.

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Speaker 1: So they're focusing in on an anti violent crime unit

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Speaker 1: in the Memphis PD. What's the reality of the Memphis

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Speaker 1: Police Department in recent years. It has a very hard

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Speaker 1: time getting people to sign up to want to be

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Speaker 1: cops in Memphis. Yeah, so hard that in fact, the

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Speaker 1: Memphis Police Department in a less brutality, more diversity initiative,

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Speaker 1: by the way, decided that they were going to change

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Speaker 1: standards dramatically for who could be a police officer in Memphis.

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Speaker 1: They even were willing to give felony waivers. That has

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Speaker 1: been confirmed. New York posts have this up felony waivers

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Speaker 1: four cops. Oh you're connected of a felony. Well, we

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Speaker 1: desperate for cops. Why are they desperate for cops in

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Speaker 1: a city like Memphis. Well, let's take a moment, shall we.

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Speaker 1: And then a tragic incident like this occurs and they say,

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Speaker 1: you know what we should do. Let's ban more police units.

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Speaker 1: Let's blame the cops even more, instead of looking at

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Speaker 1: these cops did something bad. What's going on structurally within

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Speaker 1: A lot of people pointed this out. I think they

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Speaker 1: This was all on video, and I remember I was

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Speaker 1: very upset by this case because a white cop with

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Speaker 1: was was charged with murder. A jury inexplicably in my mind,

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Speaker 1: there national outrage about it? I wrote about it at

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Speaker 1: because there wasn't a racial angle. Well, guess what looking

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Speaker 1: mean when when they're telling Tyree Nichols, for example, comply

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Speaker 1: But you know that. I have never even heard the

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Speaker 1: of those listeners who have watched this video and what

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Speaker 1: going back six years, Clay of the Daniel Shaver incident.

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Speaker 1: Every time something like this happens and it happens to

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Speaker 1: both individuals died, but Daniel Shaver, I mean, there was

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Speaker 1: And to always make it about race when there's obviously

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Speaker 1: wasn't even a hate crime. It was a fake hate crime.

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00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: We're still supposed to have the conversation about how racist

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Speaker 1: the country is. And you say, we'll hold on a second.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that occurs frequently? Is that something that

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Speaker 1: occurs at a scale where we think that that's the

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00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: of course not, it's incredibly rare, But we're supposed to

436
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: treat the incredibly rare like it's actually quite common, so

437
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: that certain people in the country can get their way

438
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: and have power. The left, the Democrats, they do this

439
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: all the time, even when it's not remotely race related.

440
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: To Bubba Wallace pull rope in Nascar. Remember the guy

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00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: in California I think it was, who had a rope

442
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: on it, like in a noose that he was using

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00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: as a workout tool in a public park. I mean,

444
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: even when these things, as you said, are not remotely

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Speaker 1: related to race at all. They're supposed to all lecture

446
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: us about the importance of having the conversation anyway, but

447
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: it's supposed to also show us, Oh, look at how

448
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: common this is. Look at what's going on in America today,

449
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 1: and ever sits there and says, this isn't going on,

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00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: This isn't a common thing at all. Actually, one of

451
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: the fastest ways to ruin your life in this country,

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Speaker 1: one of the fastest ways, the fasted probably probably, I mean,

453
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, short of like you know so much building, yeah,

454
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: is to do something that is actually truly racist. One

455
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Speaker 1: of the fastest ways to destroy your reputation, make you unhirable,

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Speaker 1: get you kicked out of school, fired from your job.

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00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: That is actually the country we live in. And yet

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Speaker 1: if you watch MSNBC, everything is racist, Clay, the FED

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00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: raising interest rates is Ray. Find me something that they

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00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: talk about and I'll show you MSNBC making it a

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Speaker 1: racial incident or racial implications of some kind. Mel In North, Caroline,

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Speaker 1: a retired cop, What did you see? Okay, how's it going?

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your calling Um, you know, after looking at all

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00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: these things since I quipped, which was back in the

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Speaker 1: mid eighties and I'm sixty three now, Like the previous

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Speaker 1: colors said, there's been a lot of changes in the

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Speaker 1: atmosphere of the people, and there's obviously some a lot

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Speaker 1: of variances within the training police officers from one city

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Speaker 1: to one state to another. So it's almost come to

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Speaker 1: my mind. And I'm not in that category to abolished police,

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Speaker 1: because I'm very lawful incline, but at the same token,

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Speaker 1: to have consistency and continuity across the board no matter

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Speaker 1: what states you live in. It's almost to the point

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Speaker 1: that I think they do need to do some type

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Speaker 1: of restructuring and maybe put the National Guard in charge

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Speaker 1: in every single town and what it used to be

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00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: or what is currently would then become the police department.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of like the the fill ins or the

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00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: what do you call it, like um volunteer uh EMTs.

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00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: They would be volunteer police people that would be available

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Speaker 1: a ton call or something. But the National Guard, I

482
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Speaker 1: just think would would be consistently trained no matter what

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Speaker 1: states you're in. They know how to handle the stream

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Speaker 1: situations and suggesting for day to day to day to

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Speaker 1: day police. We don't want the military doing day to

486
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Speaker 1: day policing. That's not gonna That's not a solution here. Yeah,

487
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a bad solution. Yeah, I mean, I

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00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: appreciate the call respectfully. That's you know, because ultimately you're

489
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Speaker 1: just transferring the responsibilities in the force. This is why

490
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: when AOC, remember AOC was saying abolish ICE, and then

491
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: everyone would say, well, that's complete, Like what do you

492
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: want to abolish all integration laws? They said, no, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna build a new thing that's not ICE that will

494
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Speaker 1: do all the same things that ICE does. And you say, okay,

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00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: well that's not going to help anything. In fact, what

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00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: the government usually does is just create the new thing

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Speaker 1: to duplicate the mission and put more resources into it overall,

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00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: and then you just have even more efficient and inefficient

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Speaker 1: and expensive bureaucracy with the same problems. John in New

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Speaker 1: York quickly here, you're a retired police chief. What did

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Speaker 1: you think, Oh, how would you have responded if this

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00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: had been on your force and you had seen video

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Speaker 1: like this. I've hired a lot of cops and I've

504
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: fired cops, and i gotta tell you I saw them.

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Speaker 1: We're saying nothing from their academy training. The other thing

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Speaker 1: most people don't know is most academies I've been to, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, I worked at the county, state, and federal level,

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Speaker 1: and I went to three academies, and I could tell

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00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: you most academies mirror Department of Justice guidelines. So they

510
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: were taught DJ principles and they did nothing but sagery

511
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: right there. And the question I don't see anybody saying

512
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: or addressing is leadership. I mean I heard it once

513
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: or twice, but that's paramountain. This Where was the sergeant,

514
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: where was the lieutenant? And everybody right up to the

515
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Speaker 1: chief needs to be held accountable. If that happened on

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Speaker 1: my watch in my department, I'd have been fired, and

517
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Speaker 1: I was the chief of my service at the federal level.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling in. And that's that. That tracks

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Speaker 1: with every law enforcement officer that I've talked to privately

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00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: about this. Friends of mine reached out to. So I

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00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: think that that is that is the accurate assessment of

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00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: what we saw, which was these cops were way over

523
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Speaker 1: the line. Obviously over the line. And when people say

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00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: things like, oh, bodycams won't no bodycams. Bodycams aren't going

525
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: to make everything perfect, but there's there's going to be

526
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: some justice now because of body without body cameras, who knows. Yeah,

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00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: So there are all reforms that have been made that

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00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, I've most cops that I've talked to you

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Speaker 1: said they liked that there are body cameras because you

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00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: know what it does. It prevents frivolous lying abuse complaints

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Speaker 1: against the cop as well when that is the case, right,

532
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: So there are things that have been done. Now. You

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00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: can still have cops turn off their bodycams, as they

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00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: did for a small portion of that, but we caught

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Speaker 1: it from the light tower in that neighborhood so that

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Speaker 1: there was an additional feed of what was going on.

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Speaker 1: But you could tell, even with the bodycams that were

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Speaker 1: running for the vast majority of this tape that they

539
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: had behaved in an illegal man, you really don't want

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Speaker 1: to be the cop explaining to internal affairs why during

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Speaker 1: an arrest where there's an allegation of severe use of

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00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: force or abuse of force while your body camera just

543
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: mysteriously turned off five got to you at all? You

544
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: don't want to be You don't want to be telling

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00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: internal affairs of that. Trust me. You know, friends, I'm

546
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: getting married this coming weekend. It's amazing how fast it

547
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: comes up. And guess what, there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of photographs, but a lot of you. I'm sure I've

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Speaker 1: had weddings in the past. Who is the photographer in

550
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: your family for that stuff? Your dad, your mom, somebody

551
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: else in the family. You know. Dad's tool of choice

552
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: back in the day was the videocam velk rode to

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00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: his right hand at so many events, weddings, school plays,

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Speaker 1: sporting events, you name it. All the videotapes he filled

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00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: up with family videos were stored away, but none of

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Speaker 1: them were thrown away. Your family likely has this situation.

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Speaker 1: So what are you doing with those old, dusty videotapes?

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Speaker 1: The Legacy Box is your answer. It's a company in

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Speaker 1: You can access them on your computer or smartphone anytime

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Speaker 1: You know, the best part of all this being able

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show coming

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Speaker 1: up in a few minutes. I'm gonna talk to you

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Speaker 1: about a situation in New York that I think some

575
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Speaker 1: of us probably would have anticipated or thought would happen.

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Speaker 1: You have migrants who are in a I believe it's

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Speaker 1: a four star hotel. Perhaps it's a three star, so

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00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: there may not be an an indoor pool and room service,

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00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: but it's a nice hotel in Midtown and they are

580
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: They've been living there for weeks, perhaps months, at taxpayer expense,

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Speaker 1: and they have been asked to change facilities. Any does

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00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: anyone want to take a guess as to whether the

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00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: people who came into the country knowingly and illegally to

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Speaker 1: abuse our system, to pretend to be asylum seekers who

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Speaker 1: have been put up in hotels in the middle of

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Speaker 1: Manhattan at taxpayer expense. Does anyone to guess if they're

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Speaker 1: really eager to comply with the request to move to

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Speaker 1: another facility, We'll just put that one out there for

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Speaker 1: a second hotel. But it's a four star hotel. It

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00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: is a four star. How many people listening to us

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00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: right now have ever stayed in a four star hotel

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Speaker 1: in Manhattan? Like a four star hotel in Manhattan is

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Speaker 1: you know, two hundred plus dollars a nine depend whoa

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Speaker 1: whoa here. But but my point is it's super expensive,

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Speaker 1: and you know, like the idea that we're putting them

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Speaker 1: up in these places, Like, I'm not surprised they would leave.

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Speaker 1: Like if you told me I could stay in a

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Speaker 1: four star hotel in Manhattan for uh for a couple

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00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: of weeks in a row, I'd be like, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good deal. I don't want to leave either. Yeah,

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00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: So well, we'll talk about this a little bit because

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00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: I think people are seeing more and more, you know,

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00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: the more visible illegal immigration and what it does to

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00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: the communities where they're there. It is concentrated. Just from

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00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: a pure we don't even talk about what it means

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Speaker 1: for the polity assimilation rule of law. Just on an

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00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: economic like dollars and cents perspective, it's worth looking at

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00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: how expensive this is for the for the taxpayer. But also, Clay,

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Speaker 1: did you see in Finland a transgender figure skater made

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Speaker 1: made his debut um a fifty nine year old farmer

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Speaker 1: performed at the opening ceremony of the European Figure Skating Championship.

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00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: So this is the figure skating Championship. And the guy

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Speaker 1: said that it was his childhood dream to be an

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Speaker 1: ice princess. And he like wipes out in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the skating. That's really like, I mean, if he

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: could skate it, really well, that's sort of a different guy.

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00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: Like all right, I mean, I know that's, you know,

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00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: the transgender stuff when that's not surprising, But Clay, the

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Speaker 1: guy can't. It's like they should push me out there

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00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: and let me go skating. I'm gonna I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to share this, uh, this video you should share. It'll

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Speaker 1: be up on Clay and Buck dot com. This is

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Speaker 1: the most expansive definition of ice princess that has ever

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Speaker 1: been created in mankind's history. All Right, you gotta see it.

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Speaker 1: This is whatever your vision is of a princess on skates,

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Speaker 1: and there are some. I'm not gonna lie, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of beautiful ice skating princesses out there. This is

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Speaker 1: the most expansive definition of ice princess that's ever been created.

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Speaker 1: It is an ice princess you are definitely gonna have

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Speaker 1: to define, gonna have to see to believe Finland's Wow.

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Speaker 1: You Clay and Buck dot com, it'll be up there.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about immigration and more coming up here. Stick

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Speaker 1: around