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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. We are

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Speaker 1: back for part two talking all things dating apps. Let's

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Speaker 1: jump right back in here we go.

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Speaker 2: So now you get past.

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Speaker 1: The pictures, all right, then we're gonna write to.

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Speaker 2: Baby. I've had so many.

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Speaker 1: So what short? What are the top things you should include, Susan?

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Speaker 2: So first of all, don't be too worthy, some of

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Speaker 2: them are so long. I like the wittier ones, if

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Speaker 2: you will, so do I. I like to share what

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for because that's what this is about. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have to check off a box, whether you want

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Speaker 2: long term, short term, just looking and having.

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Speaker 1: Those are the check boxes I'm talking about the bio.

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Speaker 1: Just what you write about yourself? What kinds of things

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Speaker 1: do you write?

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Speaker 2: The things that I enjoy and what I want in

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Speaker 2: a person. I describe my personality a little bit happy

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Speaker 2: by nature, you know, love to laugh. Want somebody that

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Speaker 2: can enjoy a big personality, whether it's live music and dinner,

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Speaker 2: a glass of wine.

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Speaker 1: Stop breaking at home. Everybody needs to hear what she

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Speaker 1: just said, because in those couple of sentences, you said

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Speaker 1: a lot about yourself. You like to cook, you like

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Speaker 1: to laugh, You're happy, you like to be at home.

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Speaker 1: You like to go out. That's the information you need

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Speaker 1: to give to people, right, you need to tell them.

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Speaker 1: So for example, if you're a homebody, Oh that's something.

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Speaker 1: Be honest. By the way, don't say you love to

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Speaker 1: go out and party and you don't and you don't,

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Speaker 1: because what are you going to attract party guys? So

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Speaker 1: be honest about what you are looking for. If you're

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Speaker 1: looking to get married, say I'm looking for my permanent person,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for a spouse. Be honest about what yoking for.

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Speaker 1: Don't make it too long because too much. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: want to leave a little yeah to question, So don't

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Speaker 1: make it too long, But do give people enough to

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Speaker 1: make them curious to want to know more about you. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, back to photos, make sure you're smiling

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Speaker 1: in them. Just I know you'd think that would be obvious,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you. One would think, Okay, what about prompts? What

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Speaker 1: do you think about prompts?

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Speaker 2: Prompts like.

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Speaker 1: What's your first what's your ideal first date?

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Speaker 2: Would be a problem. That could be a cup of coffee,

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Speaker 2: It could be.

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Speaker 1: No, but what do you think? What should you answer?

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Speaker 2: Not? I never click those you never do Whatever makes

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Speaker 2: you happy. I don't care. I'm trying to find one,

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Speaker 2: Kathy that I copied this guy. It was years ago.

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Speaker 1: You copied his prompt.

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Speaker 2: Now I cop I just loved the words. He was

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Speaker 2: so good. It was funny. He had such a good thing.

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Speaker 2: He was not for me, but he had a great

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Speaker 2: description of himself, and he had the humor in it,

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Speaker 2: he had serious in it. It was just good.

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Speaker 1: Well, while you're while you're scrolling looking for it.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I love the long walks in the park or

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Speaker 2: the sand or whatever there's water. I mean, come on, really,

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Speaker 2: you know it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like, okay, what are some cringey like

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Speaker 1: things that you see that you avoid in a in

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Speaker 1: a bio or in a profile.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have to get past the picture to read.

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Speaker 2: Some of them are nothing at all. They don't write anything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But what is when I'm looking if the pictures

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Speaker 1: are okay, and I start reading the bio and it

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Speaker 1: starts saying, you know, I've been divorced and I'm lonely,

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Speaker 1: and oh my god, I just want to cry. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see you. You know, you sound like

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Speaker 1: anyone that sounds negative. I'm not interested in what about you.

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Speaker 2: I don't do cringey? What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 1: What? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know the ones here you go? Well, and

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Speaker 2: this is again you gotta pay respect where I respect

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Speaker 2: the fact that he's honest. I am married, but have

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Speaker 2: an open relationship. Are you serious right now? But I

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Speaker 2: guess yes, you gets women that are okay with that.

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Speaker 2: It's two each's own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean that's that's I'm not interested in that.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're you're on the app, you're ready to

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Speaker 1: start swiping and chatting? What are you going to do?

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Speaker 1: We're using the app now, Susan. What are the red

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Speaker 1: flags to avoid when swiping? I'd say one picture where

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Speaker 1: it looks like they copied it from somewhere else on

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Speaker 1: the internet. What else.

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Speaker 2: A red flag?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Damn, no shirt and tight something that shows bolds like

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Speaker 2: that's like disgusting to me. Oh, there's a lot of them,

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Speaker 2: A lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I find red flags are when they there,

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Speaker 1: they don't it doesn't match, like their pictures don't match

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Speaker 1: what they say about themselves.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them don't say much though, I mean

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Speaker 2: there's so many.

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Speaker 1: Well, for me, a red flag is when there's not

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Speaker 1: a match between the verbiage and the pictures. Like you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a guy out on a sailboat and he says,

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Speaker 1: I'm a lay and lover. I've literally had those. I'm like, really,

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Speaker 1: because did you see that picture you put out there?

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Speaker 2: Here's one of the ones I used to have. Looking

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Speaker 2: for a relationship in all phases. I know what I

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Speaker 2: want and what I'm looking for. I like the instant

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Speaker 2: mutual spark from the moment we met, not into games.

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Speaker 2: I'm affectionate, not afraid to show it, where my heart

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Speaker 2: on my sleeve, easy to talk to, and I warm

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Speaker 2: up quickly. That's enough, young attitude and spirit looking for

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot about oneself though, right.

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Speaker 1: That's well, he just said what he or show you

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Speaker 1: whoever it is what they're looking for.

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Speaker 2: That's music, dancing, beach and goth movies and culture. Let's

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Speaker 2: meet and see if we click.

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Speaker 1: I love it, and that's why I was That was

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Speaker 1: one of my gusts. I like it what I thought

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Speaker 1: it was you, But I didn't want to ask what

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Speaker 1: to look for in profiles like I want to look

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Speaker 1: for someone that has energy. I don't want I'll tell

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Speaker 1: the ones I avoid when they say they prefer texting

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Speaker 1: to calling or to you know, facetiming or whatever. Ye like,

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Speaker 1: I want to meet you. We'll chat for a little

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Speaker 1: bit on the on the app, and then we're done.

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Speaker 1: We're either going to meet or we're not going to meet. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever send dms?

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Speaker 2: I don't have it anymore, But that guy's was so humorous.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you ever DM Susan? Once you've matched?

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Speaker 1: Do you do it? Or do you wait for them?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I speak right out? No? Are you just like

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Speaker 2: you know, you reach out to the message. I'll send

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Speaker 2: the message if and it's a match, I usually say hi, Hi,

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Speaker 2: I'm Susan something like that.

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Speaker 1: So I don't so if I match with someone like

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Speaker 1: if I click like, and then I'll go you're a match.

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Speaker 1: I wait for them to reach out. You don't why No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Just do I'm old fashioned.

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Speaker 2: I'll go high or I'll wave, you know, whatever one

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Speaker 2: of those symbols are. It's just like a start, like

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Speaker 2: he obviously chose you, and you just swiped and you

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Speaker 2: chose him.

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Speaker 1: I mean say hello, I'm obviously doing something wrong on

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Speaker 1: the apps because the guys that I meet on the

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Speaker 1: apps sound tips. Usually they sound interesting, and then I

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Speaker 1: talked to them on the phone, I'm like maybe, and

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Speaker 1: then I meet them and it's like, so it's either me,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is. That's why I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm not very successful on apps,

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Speaker 1: because I'm I'm.

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Speaker 2: I don't like to talk all that talk on the field.

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Speaker 2: Let's go meet. Whether it's just ten minutes and a

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Speaker 2: cup of coffee, do it. I don't care if it's

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Speaker 2: a drive by. I need eye contact and I could

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Speaker 2: know immediately if there's chemistry. I don't want to waste

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Speaker 2: your evening, nor do you want to waste yours own mind.

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Speaker 2: So I like to meet for a short thing. And

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Speaker 2: that's such a.

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Speaker 1: What's your typical date?

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Speaker 2: I haven't had one of quite some thought.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, seriously, when you met agone an app? What's

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Speaker 2: Meet for a glass of wine or a cup of coffee.

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Speaker 2: I've met like when I lived in the city, strolled

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Speaker 2: down on Penn's landing, you know, just a few minutes

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Speaker 2: and then we take it from there. Do you want

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Speaker 2: to take it and go on a date? Okay, but

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Speaker 2: this is not a date. That first meet is not

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Speaker 2: a date to me, It's just a quick half hour

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Speaker 2: you just meet.

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Speaker 1: I've never done that. I've always they've always asked me

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Speaker 1: for dinner or a drink, and then let's say, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying you, do you want to stay for dinner.

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Speaker 1: I've never had a that's lovely.

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Speaker 2: That's lovely and if I'm not enjoying them, do you

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's nothing about it, I think, if I'm

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Speaker 1: being honest, it's not. The guys that I've met on

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Speaker 1: the dating apps are with very few exceptions, have been

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Speaker 1: guys that are interesting and nice, and I've dated a

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Speaker 1: couple of them for a while, but I'm not really

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Speaker 2: In other words, there's no chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's what I know.

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Speaker 2: When there's chemistry, I know within the first five minutes

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Speaker 2: something about his smile or his eyes or whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: without even knowing who they are. Yet another thing for

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Speaker 2: me is I do not want to be questioned to death,

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Speaker 2: but I need you to ask something, show some interest

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Speaker 2: that you're interested in who I am, or where I

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Speaker 2: come from, or what I do or what I like

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Speaker 2: when they sit there and only talk about themselves.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so that's the whole thing about dating apps.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talk about doing the right pictures, having

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Speaker 1: the right bio, having it be witty, having it be fun,

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Speaker 1: having it be cute, not having it be too long,

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Speaker 1: not too short, good pick. You know, all of that

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Speaker 1: a start.

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Speaker 2: It is why we need a business on helping people.

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Speaker 1: It is, it is. But once you've done all that,

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Speaker 1: the dating apps are just I hate the word, but

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Speaker 1: it's true. They're sort of conduits, right. They help us date.

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Speaker 1: But when you get on that first day people, that's

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Speaker 1: where I want. That's the next step. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: like step foot whatever, step on, step four, step five,

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Speaker 1: the first date with a person on the dating app,

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Speaker 1: because that can be a make or break. If you

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Speaker 1: you and I talked about this, this guy that you

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Speaker 1: met on a dating app. I mean, you've met several guys,

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Speaker 1: so have I. All they want to do is talk

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Speaker 1: about themselves. They don't do you remember? So okay, here

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Speaker 1: remember in Florida. Let me tell you we were in Florida.

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Speaker 1: Met a guy on a dating app. She met him,

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Speaker 1: she forced my hand to go with her. I met

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Speaker 1: this great couple who recognized me in the bar. So

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Speaker 1: while Susan's talking to this guy, I'm chatting with this

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Speaker 1: fabulous couple. He comes back to our hotel, sits in

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Speaker 2: Why including your own? Because it's a waste. You'll probably

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Speaker 1: And then I think, what do you think about deciding

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Speaker 2: Chemistry? And do it lefter like I'm having fun, I'd

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Speaker 2: But then again, Kathy, I haven't really been out there

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Speaker 1: I haven't, but I will tell you. You know, getting

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Speaker 2: If there's a connection, it's so easy.

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Speaker 1: Are they nervous?

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Speaker 1: Anybody? Do you think people could be nervous on a

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Speaker 2: I mean you can't. But I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: That don't you feel bad. It is like a job.

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Speaker 2: Well, I get asked, what do you think of this

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Speaker 1: I've never had that.

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Speaker 2: I would kill to get off of it, get me

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Speaker 1: That's what I say, the truth on and off? And

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Speaker 1: then what you looking for? I want to say, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for my best friend? Yeah exactly, I'm I mean, see,

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Speaker 2: it's enough. It is enough. It's like, then me get wait,

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Speaker 2: From seventeen hundred question questions. That's where they go.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm telling you. You know what I

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Speaker 2: And I go, are you excuse my friend? Don't kidding me?

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Speaker 2: I met that guy already on a free site. I

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Speaker 1: I was so mad?

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Speaker 2: In the world. I didn't match they they did it.

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Speaker 2: Was a nice, nice person. I stayed, I hung out

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Speaker 1: I hope you didn't need all your meal because he

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe you that many kids had lived on

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Speaker 1: Oh fabulous, Just.

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Speaker 1: I got approached. I'm not going to say the name

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Speaker 2: That's why I don't want to go on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I didn't go on. It was they.

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Speaker 1: He said, uh. She said, he really wants to meet you,

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Speaker 1: very high profile and you're you know, a Hollywood level person,

438
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Speaker 1: you don't want Tom Dick and Harry or Felman Louise,

439
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, chasing you down. Then yeah, you can pay

440
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 1: for it, but I'm not going to do that.

441
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: I went on National TV to find love and still going.

442
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: I mean, it's coming all right, So all in.

443
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: All, once again I rejoined and I had just recently

444
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: in the last week, actually deleted the tender thing again.

445
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: It was like, what am I doing? What am I doing?

446
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: I did like it when I was away, because you

447
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: meet people where you're at that, Yeah, that workes. They

448
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: met a very interesting person in Saint Martin. As you know,

449
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: you don't speak the same language. That was difficult but

450
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: very charming.

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Speaker 1: Uh, and you met him on a dating Now listen, folks,

452
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see where this one goes, because

453
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, this guy Parley moved Francis and Susan struggles

454
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: with English. So it's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna

455
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Speaker 1: be a thing. But anyway, I think that The summary

456
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Speaker 1: of the apps for me is, you know, can't expect miracles.

457
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: You put your best foot out there if you decide

458
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Speaker 1: to join them. Don't do three or four. Pick one

459
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Speaker 1: or two. Take your time right, pick.

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Speaker 2: One or two apps? Oh apps, I thought you meant people.

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Speaker 1: No, pick rue or two apps. Take the best pictures

462
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: you can. Oh. The other thing is change your pictures frequently.

463
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: Do as I say, not as I going.

464
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: To look stale from three years ago. You still have

465
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: the same pictures though, exactly.

466
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: Change your clothes, change your hair, change your pictures, and

467
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: then write the best bio you can. And then I

468
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: really do think you have to trust your gut, you know,

469
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: get to know them. Do we really have to talk

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Speaker 1: about safety dating? I guess we do, because all the

471
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: apps on there talk about, you know, don't get Oh

472
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Speaker 1: here's another little tidbit of advice.

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Speaker 2: What's a red flag for you? Ken?

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Speaker 1: Hold on? Wait, let me just say, get a Google

475
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Speaker 1: phone number. I did that when I got on the apps.

476
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: You know why, friends, If you someone has your cell number,

477
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: they can find out anything about you, where you live, everything.

478
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: If you have a Google phone number, it's untraceable. And

479
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: you know what I give guys my Google phone number

480
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: when I first talked to them, And I always know

481
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: if it's a bad guy because he'll say, why didn't

482
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: you give me your real number? Why did you give

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Speaker 1: me a Google number? And I'll say, because I don't

484
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: know you and I want to be safe, and you

485
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: can't trace this number. So if I decide you're safe

486
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: and we go down the road. But I would recommend

487
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: that to everybody, especially but I didn't do it because

488
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: Susan likes to live on the edge. Yeah, yeah, too bad.

489
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 1: They have all your information, they know where you live.

490
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: They're knocking on your door. Can you hear them knock knock?

491
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: It's not that easy, is it that?

492
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: Today? Guess what? The whole world knows where we are?

493
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think then why do you think they's.

494
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: The first red flag? Like if you like, my red

495
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: flag was somebody that doesn't ask me anything about me?

496
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Speaker 1: And do mean on a date or on the on

497
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Speaker 1: an app?

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00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: What would be a red flag on an app? That

499
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: would be the picture that's where you go wrong.

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00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: The pictures are the red flags for me.

501
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I am say, you're going to meet somebody's what's.

502
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Speaker 1: If they come to the house if they come to

503
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: the restaurant or whatever and they're they're not gentlemen. I'm

504
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: telling you, I'm old fashioned.

505
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: If that somebody that doesn't treat the waitress, if you.

506
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: Do not teach as, if you treat a server, well

507
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: you're done. So I'm looking for that. I'm looking for polite.

508
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking for fun. I'm looking for someone who enjoys

509
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: life laughing. But a red flag is somebody who just

510
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: talks about themselves or a deceased spouse, or criticizes people

511
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: or complains about their life. I mean, I want like you.

512
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm basically a happy person. I want a happy person.

513
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so similar and like the things that I like. Yeah, well,

514
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: but it is difficult. I mean it's a first date

515
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: or first meet if you will, and you're trying to

516
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: share who you are and get to know who they

517
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: are an awe. For me, it all boils down to

518
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: is their chemistry. Chemistry speaks volumes, because there if there isn't.

519
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: Does that mean if they're what do you mean? Does

520
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: that mean? If they're if they're good kissers, what does

521
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: that mean? No?

522
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: Before the kiss? If you're enjoying them, you like something

523
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: about them, You want more. I usually know that within

524
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: a few minutes. Something charming about them that's good to me,

525
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: you know.

526
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: And I cannot believe you said that. I'm not. I

527
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: can't believe you said that because for me, I hate

528
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: to admit that. Susan, I I suss it out pretty

529
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: quickly whether or not I'm interested. I feel bad.

530
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: I told you, I know in two minutes.

531
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: Do you really though?

532
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 2: Yes?

533
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: Can I call you on that?

534
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

535
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: The guy you met in Saint Martin that when I

536
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: went with you, you turned around and said, I said

537
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: you he's cute. You went, I don't know. I don't

538
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: think I'm feeling it. That's what you said. Well you're

539
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: feeling it now.

540
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: That was the first two minutes. I didn't know. I

541
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: couldn't understand it.

542
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Wor he said, all right, listen, guys, this has been

543
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: feeling so much fun. Oh, she definitely films me.

544
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: He's a great guy.

545
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: He's a great gule. Susan is going to a prong

546
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: Francis learn from. I'm sure that she was Spanish to

547
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: be a little easier. It's they're both the same.

548
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: But they had answer like you saw, we had ear

549
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 2: pods in we're trying to communicate my phone, and I

550
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: remember like twenty five minutes thirty minutes in, I said,

551
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 2: you know where I come from. When you go to

552
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: meet somebody, you make eye contact. I couldn't even tell

553
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: you what color your eyes were. You started to live.

554
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Let me just say to you guys out there, we

555
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: can't give up. We have to be positive. Go on

556
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: the apps, get out, get off the sofa. Try to

557
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: meet people organically. If you if you're dating on apps,

558
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: be yourself, because you know what when you meet the person,

559
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: they're going to see who you are anyway, So get

560
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: on the apps.

561
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: Ghost people. I got ghosted last year. I guess it

562
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: was that was like and ghost It meanings stood up

563
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: in my.

564
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Light. If you make a date, show up.

565
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Us know.

566
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: We hope that this has helped you.

567
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: Somewhat in dating apps, especially Kathy. How about people that

568
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: have never gone on, like you know, the older generation.

569
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: We gave them step by step how to.

570
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: Do it to Just call us. We'll walk you through it.

571
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: I thought we just did spend the last hour walking

572
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: them through. Where were you? They're scared? Don't be scared.

573
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: Everybody listen, it's everyone is afraid going on a dating app.

574
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: Be safe, don't go to a private pace, go to

575
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: a public place, meet them for a drink. If nothing else,

576
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: you got out of the house for half an hour.

577
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Don't let the house first time.

578
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, what Susan.

579
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: Don't let him in your heart, don't bring him over

580
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: your home. And for the first day.

581
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: Did you really have to say that?

582
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you don't pick up you know. But we

583
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: can go on for ever and ever on the subject.

584
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: And if you do want questions or advice about our comments,

585
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: please yeah, please let us know.

586
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Let's see, because we are still Susan half asked, but

587
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: we're still on the search, and we're just hoping that

588
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: everyone finds love because you know what, don't ever forget

589
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: every one of us deserves loves.

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00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: Were all absolutely and make sure submit your questions, give

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00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: us your comments. You know what to do Bachelor nation

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Speaker 2: at Bachelor Happy Hour.

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