WEBVTT - How Men Think with Ross Mathews

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<v Speaker 1>We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This

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<v Speaker 1>is How Men Thick and I heard radio podcast. Hello everyone, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Ross Matthews. I don't know you know who I am,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe you saw me on RuPaul's Drag Race as

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<v Speaker 1>a judge, or on Chelsea Lately or The Red Carpets

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<v Speaker 1>like you know Tonight Show with Jay lenn and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the Drew Barrymore Show every single day. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also an author, man up a name dropper two of

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<v Speaker 1>my books, and enough about me. I am so happy

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<v Speaker 1>to be guest hosting How Men Think. That's right. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna answer all your questions and try to help you

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<v Speaker 1>understand how men think. I would like to understand how

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<v Speaker 1>men think. I have a little insight. Um, But first,

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<v Speaker 1>this is eleven questions with me, Ross Matthews. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into it. I don't know these questions, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to answer them and nothing's off like off limits,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're just gonna go there. Up. First, what am

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<v Speaker 1>I known for? Well, I mean I just told you

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<v Speaker 1>who are you in number two? Who are you in

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<v Speaker 1>your purse? Still life? Oh? I'm much uh more normal

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<v Speaker 1>in my personal life, you know. On television, I wear

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<v Speaker 1>like you know and Drew Grace sequence and on Drew Barry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I wear suits, but in real life, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like elastic head to toe. I live in Palm Springs

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, part of the year and then New

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<v Speaker 1>York the rest of the year. And um, I really

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<v Speaker 1>just enjoy being home with my fiance and watching fiance

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<v Speaker 1>like a normal person. Uh. Question number three, the three

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<v Speaker 1>shows that you are binge watching, Well, hello, y fiance

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<v Speaker 1>the other way and before the ninety Days, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I also watched A Single Life where um, after the

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<v Speaker 1>couple's inevitably break up after ninety day, they go on

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<v Speaker 1>that show. I know I need to get a life,

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<v Speaker 1>don't judge me. Question number four, what is your favorite food? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>hands down pizza. I don't really eat it because my body.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting it together. You know, I lost sixty pounds

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<v Speaker 1>and um keeping it off. But I had to break

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<v Speaker 1>up with Pizza. It was hard for me. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I see him, it's still still hurts. Uh. Number five,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about your career. Well, you know, I always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be on television ever since I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little kid growing up in a farm town and now

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<v Speaker 1>I just celebrated twenty years on TV starting at the

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight Show with Jay Leno was a correspondent and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>still going, still going. Question number six, what is my

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<v Speaker 1>biggest fear in life? You know, I really think it's

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<v Speaker 1>not living up to my potential. I know that it

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<v Speaker 1>should be like heights or something like that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>used to be afraid of heights until I went skydiving.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll cure that. Question number seven, what is my biggest pet? Peeves? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>How are people who are like just mean for no reason?

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<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes you know, like you have to stand up

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself or you have to point out that something's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong or fight injustice and you have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really go there. But some people are just malicious just

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<v Speaker 1>for the sake of it. Yeah, I don't like those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number eight, What makes me the most happy? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot makes me happy. Um My, my fiance and

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<v Speaker 1>and are the life we built makes me really happy

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<v Speaker 1>and proud. My dogs make me happy. I have three

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<v Speaker 1>little rescued chihuahuas who are like so unbelievably cute. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, I think we all have a purpose here.

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<v Speaker 1>My purpose is to like communicate and make people smile.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so when I'm on stage and I'm creating

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<v Speaker 1>a moment with an audience, um or even unlike my

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<v Speaker 1>podcast straight Talk or here with you all, creating and

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<v Speaker 1>connecting is why I'm here and that makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number nine, what is my ideal Saturday morning? Oh? Please? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I am up early because I went to bed early.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. I am. I live my

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<v Speaker 1>life like an active senior citizen. So I am up early.

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<v Speaker 1>I get so much done by ten am. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then at ten am, home Goods open. So girl, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a home Goods because I need some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>chokey for that shelf right there. It's been driving me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So um. And then I got a brunch, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just a way of life. Hello homosexual and um and

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, nap, try an do a little now.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm in Palm Springs, I hit the penny slots

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<v Speaker 1>or I go uh an taking. And I'm here in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, you know, we just try to stay warm

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<v Speaker 1>because it's freezing. Number ten? What uh? What am I

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<v Speaker 1>more of an athlete or an armshare quarterback? I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think these are metaphors. So because I'm not an athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>But in life, am I a doer? Or am I

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and critique er? Oh? I'm a doer, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll critique it and question number eleven. What keeps

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<v Speaker 1>me motivated? Well, it's the same thing. It relates back

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<v Speaker 1>to what my biggest fear is. What keeps me motivated

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<v Speaker 1>is to reach my potential to do what I am

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<v Speaker 1>meant to do here on this earth. So, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>keep trying. I don't like a work in progress. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea of perfection in progress because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we ever achieved it, but we can always keep trying.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. That's enough for me though, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you have questions and you've been hitting up the instagram

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<v Speaker 1>How Men Thinks? So coming up, we're turning it around

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<v Speaker 1>on you. I'm gonna be answering your questions. Hi again

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<v Speaker 1>me Ross Matthews guests so saying how men think this week?

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<v Speaker 1>And we have turned the reins over to you. You

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<v Speaker 1>have questions for me. These have been written in on

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<v Speaker 1>the Instagram How Men Think? Let's get going. Here's our

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<v Speaker 1>first question. It says, Ross, You're the life of the party. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for noticing. Have you always been this outgoing? Do

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<v Speaker 1>guys like it when a girl is the life of

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<v Speaker 1>the party or is it intimidating? Well, okay, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>two parter. So have I always been this outgoing girl?

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<v Speaker 1>I've just always been me, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember there was a time when, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>realized like how different I was from everybody else, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, I could really just hate myself or

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<v Speaker 1>I could just be all in. And it was so

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<v Speaker 1>much easier just to be all in, right, It took

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<v Speaker 1>so much more effort to hate. So I've just always

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<v Speaker 1>been like this. And then do people lie get when

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<v Speaker 1>other people are the life of the party? Are isn't intimidating?

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the person. Um Some some people are

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<v Speaker 1>really turned off by it because it brings a spotlight

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<v Speaker 1>onto them they don't like or maybe they're competitive about

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<v Speaker 1>the spotlight. So I think it's better when relationships have

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<v Speaker 1>a flower and a gardener. Have you heard that that

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<v Speaker 1>metaphor before? Where one person likes the spotlight and the

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<v Speaker 1>other person loves to be a support system. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can find that sort of dynamic, you've got you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a good relationship going. All right. Next question, when did

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<v Speaker 1>you know you were ready to settle down? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>full speed ahead once you're ready, or did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>second guess making a relationship official? Well, uh, for me

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<v Speaker 1>and my fiance Wellington, it was a no brainer. We met.

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<v Speaker 1>It started with a breakfast burrito on a rooftop pool

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<v Speaker 1>in Portavarta. It was like nine in the morning and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him and we started talking and it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I had known him my whole life. And so no,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't pump any break are you can When you

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<v Speaker 1>win the lottery, what do you do? You rush to

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<v Speaker 1>put that check in the bank. So about a year

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<v Speaker 1>into our relationship, I put a ring on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we're planning the wedding. Next question, you're a homeowner.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you make sure your home feels equally like

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<v Speaker 1>one partner's home as the others. Yeah, so I I've

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've had many homes, but this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that I bought a home with somebody. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>My fiance and I just purchased a new home on

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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast. I'll always still live in Palm Springs,

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<v Speaker 1>but the home is beautiful and it is important. You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be overbearing when you are decorating a home or

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to feel like one person is a guest

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<v Speaker 1>in a home. So you know, I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have equal part power of veto where uh if

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<v Speaker 1>if I like something and I want it and my

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<v Speaker 1>fiance Willington vetos it, it's it's sorry, you're not coming

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<v Speaker 1>home with us. So you don't have to love everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but you do have to have that ultimate power to

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<v Speaker 1>say noope. Next question, As a judge RuPaul's dag race,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch how others express themselves. How do you help

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<v Speaker 1>a partner that doesn't know how to express their needs

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<v Speaker 1>and wants? Well, girl, I don't know how to help you,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're with a partner that doesn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to express what they need and want, then your partner

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<v Speaker 1>needs to do work on themselves because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're capable of being in a grown up a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>if you are not a fully formed version of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like maybe the person you're with needs

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<v Speaker 1>a little time back in the oven to fully bake

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Next question, what if a guy is not

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<v Speaker 1>funny through text at the beginning of the talking stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a red flag? If I'm looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>fun and adventurous partner. I don't know if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>red flag. Some people are good text, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I give good text. I have to say my punctuation

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<v Speaker 1>is on point to think very much, and I'm able

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<v Speaker 1>to use a little riotion and emojis to be hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe that's not the right forum. I would certainly

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<v Speaker 1>give this person a chance. I are l in real

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<v Speaker 1>life before you discard them, But I will say no

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<v Speaker 1>sense of humor is always a red flag. Up next,

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<v Speaker 1>As a woman in my thirties, I'm so over being single.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I settling if I reevaluate my standards? If I

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<v Speaker 1>do reevaluate my standards, will I be unhappy in my

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<v Speaker 1>future relationship? You know, we talked about this on The

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Barrymore Show. All the time Drew talks about when

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<v Speaker 1>she was younger, she wanted a bad boy and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, someone with edge, And now the only priority

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<v Speaker 1>she has is are you nice? So I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're settling at all by reevaluating your standards. Think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in your thirties now. You probably have been into

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<v Speaker 1>the same type of person or same type of guy

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<v Speaker 1>since you were like in your teens and your twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that working out for you? So? I think you

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<v Speaker 1>do need to reapproach dating as somebody in your thirties now,

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<v Speaker 1>just like we reapproach food. Right. We used to eat

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<v Speaker 1>bags of fun In's Girl. I have been there, Cheetah

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<v Speaker 1>high um. But that's young food. And what that does

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<v Speaker 1>to your body now is like you know, you a

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<v Speaker 1>whole pizza, You're gonna be on the toilet the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>just on comfy. And you have to think about that

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<v Speaker 1>with men as well, because men can be junk food.

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<v Speaker 1>It may feel really good in the moment, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the emotional toilet for a week or two after.

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<v Speaker 1>So how about just doing things that are good for us,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's food or people. So if that means re evaluating,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all in for that. Well that was fun. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for your questions. And next coming up, we're hitting the phones.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, you're calling me. We're gonna do this live.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing's off limits. It's Ross Matthews on how men thinks? Hi, Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? I'm good? How are you? Ross? I

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<v Speaker 1>am a phenomenal Now how can I help you today? Well? So, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends and I have been talking and we've come

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<v Speaker 1>to the consensus that we all agree it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>check our boyfriend's phones. Check you check your check your

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend's phone, like pick it up and so like when

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<v Speaker 1>he's not looking to just kind of give a little glance,

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of like pick it up and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to see what kind of information we can get

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. But I feel kind of guilty doing it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, Like I know, my friends say

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<v Speaker 1>that it's fine, but um, I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel kind of weird. So I'm not quite sure if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the right here. And um, you know, if he

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<v Speaker 1>found out, do you think he would be met? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're in a relationship and we're on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>are sharing exactly everything, but you know, is there a

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<v Speaker 1>better way to check his phone without him finding out?

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<v Speaker 1>And like if if I did find something, like should

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<v Speaker 1>I confront him? Like I feel like I'm just presented

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<v Speaker 1>with all these different problems and I feel kind of guilty. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you a question. Do you trust your boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>I do? I do? And like I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm a bit of a snoop um. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not so much that I feel like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find that he's, you know, cheating on me or something,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I just kind of like want to see

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<v Speaker 1>surprises before they happen. I mean, like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm approaching this in a more innocent way. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, am I still the jerk in this? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>You are the jerk in this? Yes you are, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you trust your boyfriend, then you need to trust

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<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend. You can't say you trust somebody and then

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<v Speaker 1>check their phone. So this is on you. But if

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<v Speaker 1>he leaves it out, it's not It's not like he's

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<v Speaker 1>hiding it. So I'm just I'm just he leaves it

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<v Speaker 1>out because he trusts you not to check his phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have a reason to not to not

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<v Speaker 1>trust your boyfriend, the growing up thing to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to ask your boyfriend about that reason. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think checking somebody's phone is one of the most vile

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<v Speaker 1>things you can do because you're not using your grown

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<v Speaker 1>up girl. You want, you want the answer, you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to agree with you. No, No, I just hate

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. No, I felt fair enough. This is no.

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<v Speaker 1>It is such an invasion of privacy. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>have an issue or a concern or a question for

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<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend, use your gowing up words and ask him

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But it seems like the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's hard. Well, who said being a grown up

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<v Speaker 1>was easy? No one, no one. That's why kids don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. But now you are. You are a grown up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in a grown up relationship. If and if you

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<v Speaker 1>want this to go anywhere with him, do not. This

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<v Speaker 1>is true. I don't. I don't want this to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a bone of contention, Like I don't want him

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<v Speaker 1>to to find out that I've been sneaky, even if

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<v Speaker 1>I feel it was in good attentions. But you're right, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>just I should just talk to him because in an

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<v Speaker 1>adult relationship, he's just going to tell me the truth. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And and if you're not capable of not checking his phone,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're not capable of being in an adult relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So just sit in that. Okay mm hmm mm hmm okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you got this. I appreciate it. Yes, thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. Um, don't do it. Thank you so much, Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>and good luck to you and your boyfriend. Thank you. Ross.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I feel pretty good, you know, you know, aside

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<v Speaker 1>from what I've done, but you know, I feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about our future. I appreciate that. All right, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>keep calling it if you need need any more help,

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<v Speaker 1>but be a good trusting person, all right? Up next, Hi, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Ross. How can I help you? Well, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who is type A someone who likes to have

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<v Speaker 1>plans and always follows through. And if a date flakes

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<v Speaker 1>on me once, should I give him a second chance

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<v Speaker 1>or should I just say bye bye bye? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how many chances are too many chances? Or am I

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<v Speaker 1>being too harsh? Well? Okay, it's sort of a gut thing,

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<v Speaker 1>right because legitimately things can come up and people have

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel last minute. Right, So if you feel like, hmmmm,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is this is real deal stuff, then

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<v Speaker 1>I would say give him another chance. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>just think this person is a flake, that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to be like bye, because you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>are all really busy. I mean, I got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on, don't you. Yeah. I mean you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, follow my gut. That's exactly what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because there's no there's no right, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>yes or no to this because sometimes things come up.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to cancel things before. I'm sure you have to,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, Like I think there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to your intuition. So is there a guy in

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<v Speaker 1>particular this happened recently? Um, yeah, I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>happened a few times. But yes, Reese Lee, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just said it was a mix up, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was another day. But I mean it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>so inconvenient and disappointing when that happens, even just once.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. But do you feel like he was being

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<v Speaker 1>sincere mm hmm um, I actually do this time. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, I think he was. So maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>should just give him another chance? Yeah, one one more chance?

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<v Speaker 1>You get one? Yeah, if I think if if you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they're their intentions are real and in their

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<v Speaker 1>in their legit, then you know I would give him

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<v Speaker 1>another chance. Okay, Well, thank you? That helps me? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. I wish you luck, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you this, The fact that you're open to

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<v Speaker 1>giving someone else another chance is a really good sign

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<v Speaker 1>for you and love because that you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>do that when you find even the right person. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people need to take to well, that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough out there, but you've got to give people

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<v Speaker 1>a break sometimes and hope that they do the same

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Right words, Sarah words, all right, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>a good luck to you. Thanks so much, take care

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<v Speaker 1>you too, Bye bye. Al right, next caller, Catherine, it's Ross. Hi. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. It's sorry, I'm excited too, And how

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<v Speaker 1>can I help you? Um? Well, I guess I I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in a pretty traditional conservative household. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>like when I reached the age where I was allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to date, I was always really nervous to tell my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>Like who I was interested in? Was that? How old

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<v Speaker 1>when you were allowed to date? Um, seventeen seventeen, So

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<v Speaker 1>like you were seeing all your friends at like fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>like go on dates experience, they probably get their first kiss,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were just sitting there like twiddling your thumbs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like a lot of my friends also grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in pretty conservative households too, so you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't I didn't feel like out of the loop, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess until yeah, yeah, but um, I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>never really cared about like what anybody's gender was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I cared about like who they were on the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, um, this past year, I met this I

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<v Speaker 1>met this girl, and like I really fell for her

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<v Speaker 1>really hard, and yeah we doo um and like we've

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<v Speaker 1>been together every day, um, you know since we met.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so scared to tell my parents about her. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just all all the questions, like all the judgment, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I don't know, Like I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to know, Like, is there is there ever going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good time to tell them, like they they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to There's not gonna be a good time right time,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is going to be the best way, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And the best way is you have to steady yourself

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reaction, you know, because because I it could

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<v Speaker 1>go in a variety of different ways, right, So you

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<v Speaker 1>need to prepare yourself for that. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>burdens that comes with being, um, a person who is

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<v Speaker 1>in same sex relationships or I don't I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to label you, but I can tell you my experience

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<v Speaker 1>when I came out as gay to my family. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I had to reckon or reconcile was

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<v Speaker 1>the thought that I may lose my family to be

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<v Speaker 1>who I am. Yeah, I was very lucky. I was

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<v Speaker 1>very lucky that my family, um was wonderful, wonderful, But

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<v Speaker 1>I also didn't come from a deeply religious family. So

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<v Speaker 1>you need to if you're gonna be who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>which I suggest that you do, and be with who

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<v Speaker 1>you love. I think that's the best way to live, right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to steady yourself for the p stability that

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<v Speaker 1>people may not welcome that, even in your family. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to think that your family is going to

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<v Speaker 1>rise up to this moment, and I really hope they do.

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<v Speaker 1>And they sound like they did a good job raising you.

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<v Speaker 1>You sound like a really good human, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it takes good humans to make good humans. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would um anticipate them to be able to rise up

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you here, but also steady yourself in case

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<v Speaker 1>they can't. That's just the reality of it. Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And no matter what, no matter what, listen to me,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to me say this, okay, no matter what, now

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<v Speaker 1>that you are perfect as is and that your love

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<v Speaker 1>is so special. H thank you. You're welcome and good

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<v Speaker 1>luck to you, Catherine. And I'm so happy you found

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<v Speaker 1>someone that makes you sound like that because I can't

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<v Speaker 1>see you, but I can hear you smile when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about her. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>good luck to you. Thanks by al. Right, next on

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<v Speaker 1>the line, let's say hi to Jennifer. Hi, Well, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for calling in And how can I help you? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I need some advice. Um, I'm someone who's really

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<v Speaker 1>into fashion. Yeah, I love to dress up and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really I'm sorry my arm No, I hope that was

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<v Speaker 1>you wearing like something with bells on it? Is that? What? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That's my phone? Sorry? What are you wearing right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you, Jennifer, if you're into fashion, like

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<v Speaker 1>what I what outfit do you have on today? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So I have these nice high waisted um like their pants,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're like, um cinched in the waist. They have

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<v Speaker 1>buttoned their like emerald green kind of like army pants,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you know, like the baggy kind and uh

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<v Speaker 1>a nice little like it's like it's like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a cammy but it's like a has embroidered

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on it. Um, Cammy is in camusol and so

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, yeah, I love you, I love you

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<v Speaker 1>abbreviated camusa for that for me, thank you, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a visual And what kind of shoe would you

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<v Speaker 1>pair with this outfit? Oh? You know, like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>black standard boot tight on the ankle, but the pants

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<v Speaker 1>obviously are freda be over understood myself and wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>silk button up under a cardigan or a cardi. Um

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<v Speaker 1>that's green, black, brown SNEeSe and a purple back. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that interesting? It's like, yeah, okay, let's focus now, Jennifer,

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<v Speaker 1>you're into fashion. What do you I love purple too.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually look like Barney where I wear purple, so

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<v Speaker 1>I try to use it sparingly, Jennifer, focus, What do

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<v Speaker 1>you need for me? Okay? So I'm really creative with

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<v Speaker 1>my outfits, you know that. Um. But I'm having a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time with the menum dating and their fashion sense

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm really it's something I focus on. UM. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I really find a guy attractive unless he's really dressed impeccably.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering if like I'm being too picky or

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<v Speaker 1>how I can deal with that, Like, is it rude

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<v Speaker 1>to tell somebody that, like, I don't like his wardrobe,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, how do I inchum into good taste? One

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<v Speaker 1>he has horrible taste, or like I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>are there nice phrases that I can suggest, like if

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<v Speaker 1>he's wearing an ugly shirt or pants, or like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like shoes, or I don't know how to approach

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<v Speaker 1>this dilemma. Well, a couple a couple of things. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna break a couple of things down. One who

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<v Speaker 1>asked you about his clothes for starters who asked, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he likes it? Right, So you cannot try to date

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<v Speaker 1>a version of yourself because um, there's only one of you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you need to be open to meeting somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>has their own definition of good taste, because because like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't make the rules. Right. Yeah, let

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<v Speaker 1>me give you an example. We have different areas of interest,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't mean we're not compatible. If your hearts

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<v Speaker 1>and your rhythms and your personalities are compatible, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a beautiful thing to be very different. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm like an encyclopedia of pop culture and knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>My fiance Wellington, he's an academic. He doesn't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>of anybody, what anybody is. We went to dinner with

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie o'donald one time and my friend and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>a Rosie's you know, and he's like, oh yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>we hit this great dinner and afterwards he said she's

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<v Speaker 1>so nice, like oh yeah. He goes, she doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like she looked on the sitcom and I said, no

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<v Speaker 1>talk show and he goes, no sitcom Roxanne. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, you're so wrong. On so many level.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought that was Rosanne bar but it was Rosie o'donald.

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<v Speaker 1>But my but my point isn't so he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>my world that's so bad. And he's not like me,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean that that he's not perfect for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were to find a guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing god forbid, pleaded khakis and like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>gray polo and why, I mean, can you even imagine

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<v Speaker 1>like a vel gros shoe, Like you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>to find the beauty be in his differences with you,

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<v Speaker 1>if his heart is pure, if his intentions are pure,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he shows up for you in a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>way like who cares? Yeah, it's just like I notice

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<v Speaker 1>it and it bothers me. There's probably things about you

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<v Speaker 1>that bother him. Yeah, so I think it's okay for

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<v Speaker 1>you to say, like, Babe, I hate those pants, but

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<v Speaker 1>are you happy in those pants? Okay, congratulations on your pants. Now, like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to lunch. You know, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to sit there and stew with it or resent

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<v Speaker 1>him for his pleated khakis. You can say it, but

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<v Speaker 1>if he hasn't, and you know he'll, you know, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably say, oh, can you pick them out for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't even care? And then there's your opening.

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<v Speaker 1>But like to like look at him and roll your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and resent him for wearing that is not healthy

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<v Speaker 1>to just be open and be like, Babe, those pants

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>gots to go. And if you take a fense, then

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<v Speaker 1>then you say, God bless your pants. If those make

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<v Speaker 1>you happy, then wear them every day. But my my

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<v Speaker 1>guess is he's probably gonna like not even notice and

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<v Speaker 1>say like, okay you pick out Yeah no, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you just saying that it makes me think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have more of a comedic flair on this,

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<v Speaker 1>like be really honest about it, just put it out

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<v Speaker 1>there because I get nervous about being honest, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's better if I just say I don't like those pants,

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<v Speaker 1>like where'd you get them? So here's my question for

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<v Speaker 1>you. You You say this is an interesting You say I

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<v Speaker 1>get nervous being honest. Yeah, because I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hurt his feeling or like anybody's feelings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you're partnering with somebody, you've got to say

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>my fiance Valentine calls it, you have to have courageous conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say I'm nervous to be honest, then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got some some work to do on you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because my question is you're nervous of what to hurt

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>his feelings? And then what happens if you hurt his feelings? Um,

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>he gets offended and doesn't, you know, want to be

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<v Speaker 1>with me? Do you want to be with someone who

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>want doesn't want to be with you at your authentic

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>mm hmm Yeah, I mean I guess like I'm aware

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<v Speaker 1>of how I mean. I've had people in the past

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<v Speaker 1>I have, you know, they've had bad reactions to me,

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<v Speaker 1>picking out what they don't like, what I don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in what they're wearing, and then they're just

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<v Speaker 1>offended and they're like, you know, curse at me. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's unfortunate because because if you're being honest with someone

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>with good intentions and kindness, that can only lead to

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a better place and a better understanding. But you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go in. You have to say it with all us,

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>say it with kindness, and say it with good intentions.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>So if you if you want to say something, if

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<v Speaker 1>you need to say something, you do it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But my my question too is like, is he a

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<v Speaker 1>good human who makes you feel good? Yeah? Yeah, so far,

0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>so far, so you know, maybe maybe we fcus on

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 1>that and not on the terrible style. Okay, okay, okay,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you, and good luck to you. Thanks,

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>have a good day you too. And finally, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>hello to Kelly. Hi there, Hi, I'm wonderful and I'm

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>here to help. This is how many thinks. Let let

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>me let me take a swing at it. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you need? I am exhausted, Like I'm on the dating

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>apps and it is rough out here. Um the dating

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>app I'm on it requires the woman to send the

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<v Speaker 1>first message, and I really put like time and thought

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<v Speaker 1>into it. To come up with these like funny and

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.479
<v Speaker 1>woody lines. I mean, I definitely think they're funny and woody,

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>but I literally like it's silent on the other end,

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, should I just be more casual?

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Is it's just intimidating to guys? Or what are some

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<v Speaker 1>like fun and like funny and cute or like sexy

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>lines that I can send to actually like get some

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<v Speaker 1>attention and return, or like I'm lost. God, you know,

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it is so tough out there, and the apps I

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.719
<v Speaker 1>think just make it worse because it almost takes like this,

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:18.479
<v Speaker 1>like the humanity out of it, you know. Um, I

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>would honestly like, Okay, I think you have to take

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.479
<v Speaker 1>a multi pronged approach at dating. I think you have

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to hit the apps and multiple apps because you need

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>different approaches. Right, So the app you're on the woman

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to say hello first, okay, great? Do that?

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You gotta get another one's too, you know, um, because

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I just think, you know, if you were like fishing

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<v Speaker 1>for fish, right and you had multiple polls, why not

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>throw them all out there to catch the right one, right?

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And then I also need you to be out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the real world too, and I know, right now

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of tough because the world's shut down in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways, but it's you know, it's still doable. You know.

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>The Pilgrims just put the hair on a pony, a

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.479
<v Speaker 1>little lip gloss on, and they went and sat at

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<v Speaker 1>a bar and ordered a cocktail and like let the

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>whole place know they were by themselves. You know, I

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>think you got to do that more so many times

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>people go out with a group of friends. No one

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>hits on you and a group of friends, You've got

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to go by yourself into the real world and look up.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be on your phone, just look up and be there.

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<v Speaker 1>You will be shocked at how many people you'll meet

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<v Speaker 1>I r L in real life. That's true. Um, are

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<v Speaker 1>you are you open to trying Are you open to

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>trying another app? Yeah? I mean I guess I didn't

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>really think about that, but you're you're right. I mean,

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's the approach within itself that just isn't working

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>for me, or you know, maybe I should try a

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>variety and see, like if I'm getting different responses or

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.479
<v Speaker 1>feedback in other places. Totally. I like the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>like having one attitude on on one app and then

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<v Speaker 1>like a slightly different version of yourself. I mean it's

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>all you, right, but like you know, there's you at

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<v Speaker 1>work and there's you um at the club right, very

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>different me. So if one of your apps is like

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you at work, I mean there's no issue. And I'm

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>not saying like you know, how how down. I'm just saying, like,

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe like highlight another aspect of your personality

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and another app. Yeah, it's a good idea. M. And

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>then it is a lot of work. But what Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but anything you want in life that is worth it

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>is work. You know, finding a partner is work because

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you've got to get out of the house. You've got

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to you've got to be present. You can't be like

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>on on Instagram, you know, scrolling. You've got to be present.

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>You have to be interested, you have to be interesting,

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to show up and you have to have

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>follow through. It is not easy work finding the love

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>of your life. But it is worth it. Thanks for

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>reminding me of that part. M. Okay, I'm not worried

0:31:55.200 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>about you. I'll tell you why, because you've identified the problem. M.

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>You've identified that, like you're putting this effort out there

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and not getting a return, so you need to change

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>your approach. Yeah, m hmm, just like you would with

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>anything else in the world, you know. So I think

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you've got this, and uh, there are some people who, um,

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I would like sit and like really lecture. You're not

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be one of them. Thanks. I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just create some more profiles and make some fun out

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of it. Yeah, and go out in the to the

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>real world too. Okay, I'll be present. Don't go out

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>with a gup of friends. Like I said, go there,

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>sit there, make some eye contact, look around, smile at people. Um.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's how they used to do it back

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>in the cave days, and so let's do it that

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>way again. Okay. I'll make it fun. Yes, and have

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 1>fun with it. Really. I know it's like it feels

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like you're running to something, but you gotta enjoy the journey. Yeah,

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>all right, thanks for the motivation. I'm gonna I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do good good luck And you want to hold down,

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you should a hog down to you if you want to.

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I might have to do that too, just a little bit,

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>a little a little hold down never hurt anybody. Thank you,

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Kelly you, good luck to you, Thank you

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>for your time, Thank you well, this has been so

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>much fun. Um you know, getting to know you have

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you get to know me a little bit more. Taking

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.479
<v Speaker 1>your calls was my favorite part. So thank you for

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>all of you who reached out. If you want to

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:24.640
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