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On today's 20 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 5: edition of America's Voice Live. I Terrence Bates in for 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 5: Steve Gruber. It is Wednesday, February twelve. Let's get right 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 5: to today's top stories. The first Dose subcommittee meeting kicked 23 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 5: off to a couple of hours ago. It has since 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 5: wrapped up, but I can tell you there were some 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 5: fiery comments from both sides of the aisle coming up. 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 5: The chairwoman of that committee will be joining us to 27 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 5: talk about this first installment of that meeting. Also, we'll 28 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 5: get into ten bipartisan bills that are aimed at easing 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 5: the burden on taxpayers and addressing crucial issues affecting the 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: nation's taxpayers and your tax dollars. And later, ICE was 31 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: blocked from engaging potential recruits at an NYU campus, and 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 5: the petition that stopped it all claimed that ICE has 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 5: a history of racial profiling. We'll explain those stories and 34 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 5: so much more right now on America's Voice Live. The 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 5: House Subcommittee on the Department of Government Efficiency is off 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: to a flying start after holding its first hearing on 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 5: Capitol Hill today. The committee is chaired, excuse me, by 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 5: Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green. 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 7: We were each elected to serve and represent the American 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 7: people and how there are to earn tax dollars or spent. 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 7: We as Republicans and Democrats, can still hold tightly to 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 7: our beliefs, but we are going to have to let 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 7: go of funding them in order to save our sinking ship. 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 5: Today's hearing focused on Medicaid spinning and what the Georgia 45 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: Republican describes as quote rushing pandemic era funding out the 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 5: door without proper oversight mechanisms. The committee is expected to 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 5: work hand in hand with President Trump and his team 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: to root out waste, to fix broken payment systems, and 49 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 5: to investigate fraud schemes. Democrats are pointing out concerns about 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 5: Elon Musk's influence in the federal government and potential conflicts 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 5: of interest. Joining me now to discuss all of this 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 5: and so much more. As former Assistant Secretary of State 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 5: under former President George W. 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: Bush, Robert Charles Robert good to see you, my friend. 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 5: He, of course, is also the author of a very 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 5: cool book that you see there on your screen. Cherish America. 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 5: Go pick that up wherever you buy your books. Robert, 58 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 5: good to see you. 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: Always a blast to be with you, Terrance. 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 5: All right, So, look, you've got some background in what 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 5: DOGE is doing because you've run oversight over various federal agencies. 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 5: So talk about how this process is ultimately going to work. 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 5: And from someone who's got inside knowledge, what are your expectations? 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: You know, I guess I couldn't be happier that we 65 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: have serious minded people. Finally, Terrence, going after a lot 66 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: of this waste. I spent five years for Gingrich running 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: the biggest part of the oversight committee, which included State, 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: USAID but also Defense Justice, NASA, and then ironically I 69 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: ended up being unanimously confirmed and put in the position 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: of being Assistant Secretary of State, where I ended up 71 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: deobligating hundreds of millions of dollars calling contractors on the carpet. 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Just a couple very quick observations. 73 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: First, this committee on the Hill is doing and DOGE 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: is doing God's work. This is, we don't give away 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: money to the federal government so that they can waste 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: it by the trillions. We give it to them because 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: there are functions that the federal government should provide. But 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: when they waste it and they abuse it and they 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: use it on their pet projects, that is an ultimate 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: betrayal of the taxpayer. And by the way, if they 81 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: do it at the state level, that's a betrayer of 82 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: the taxpayer too. 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: So a couple of very quick observations. 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: This is just the beginning of the beginning of the beginning, Terrence. 85 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: Because there are two thousand federal agencies, commissions, departments, and 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: they are just beginning to scratch the surface. 87 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Number two, one of the most insidious. 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: Pieces of this that I discovered, which they haven't even 89 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: begun to talk about yet, is the mid level employees 90 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: that are permanently there who develop very personal, cozy relationships 91 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: with these big primes. USAID has about ten primes that 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: have been around for twenty five years. They have very 93 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: close relationships with all the mid level people, and by. 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: The way, so do all these other agencies. 95 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: They have mid level people who are tightly tied to 96 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: the chief prime contractors. What do they do They essentially 97 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 3: create a friendship of sorts with the with these folks, 98 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: and they don't do serious oversight. These are the people 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: in the federal government. They don't do serious oversight of 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: the contractors that are that they are working with and 101 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: so and very often, Terrence, if you go and look 102 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 3: at who are the leading people in those primes, they 103 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: are all people who worked for the agency with which 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: that prime is now contracting. So there's a very incestuous 105 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 3: sort of thing that goes on here across the federal government. 106 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: And the more rocks they flip over, the more they're 107 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: going to find and I'll just tell you it makes 108 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: my heart warm. I look at the way in which 109 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: these people are saying I have a mission to find 110 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: all these wasted dollars, and I'm. 111 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: Going to tell you the percentages are going to be huge. 112 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's going to be ten. 113 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: Percent, twenty percent, thirty percent, but you're going to find 114 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: that an awful lot of the federal tax money collected 115 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: goes to things that are either ridiculous, unaligned with US interests, 116 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: completely wasteful, abusive, personal They just don't They're expenditures that 117 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: shouldn't be happening. 118 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: Robert, my gut wants to call it fraud. I'm going 119 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: to hold off on that, but I will call it waste. 120 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 5: I think that's probably a fair way to describe it. 121 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 5: And beyond that, it seems to me that this has 122 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: been happening at epidemic levels. This isn't something a Johnny 123 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 5: Come Lately issue. It's not something that just started happening. 124 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 5: It's been happening for administrations in decades. 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: It has it has. 126 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: The federal government today is hundreds of times bigger than 127 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: during the period when FDR was president, and it's thousands 128 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: of times bigger than when people like Theodore Roosevelt were president. 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: So it has a power. Concentrated power grows itself. This 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: is where our founders told us again and again watch 131 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: out for concentrated power, because whether it's at the federal 132 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: level or at the state level, particularly if you get 133 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: one party government periodically, they essentially feather their own bids. 134 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: There is no oversight. 135 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: No one sends another Democrat to prison because they have 136 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: wasted more federal dollars that were collected. And frankly, a 137 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: lot of these moneies, and I hate to say it, 138 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: go to organizations that then turn around and give money 139 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: back to the Democrat Party, whether it's Planned Parenthood or 140 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: the teachers' unions or any of these other organizations. 141 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: And the primes do the same thing. 142 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: And by the way, do look at two at the 143 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: mid level people at the state department, most of them 144 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: ninety five percent give money to Democrats, not Republicans. 145 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: So it becomes a self licking ice cream cone. 146 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: And I will say, I will say, Terrence, that the 147 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: word fraud is properly used on occasion when a law 148 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: requires free and open competition, and a mid level person 149 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: doing contracting, very often a program manager says, what I'm 150 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: going to do is I'm going to give this to 151 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: my good old friend the prime here, a USAID or 152 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: anywhere else, and I'm going to call in two sort 153 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: of mock competitors, and I'm going to find that, gosh, 154 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: they don't really meet the needs that I have right now, 155 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: and I'm going to give it back to my old friend. 156 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: Then that's fraud, okay. And I literally I'll tell you something. 157 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: When I was I ran a two billion dollar operation 158 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: and that those dollars probably today would be a four 159 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: billion dollar operation. And when I found contractors that were 160 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 3: doing non specific invoices, when I told when I found 161 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: that they had worked these cozy relationships with mid level 162 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: contract you know, people who are doing the procurement or 163 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: doing the program management. 164 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I called the presidents of those companies in. 165 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: And I won't name them here, but I called them 166 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: in and I said, look, this looks to me like 167 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars bill that you levied against my department. 168 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: And I don't see any specifics. It looks like fuel 169 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: at a cost in Iraq. Let's say that is multiples. 170 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: You know, you're asking reimbursement for multiples of the market 171 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: value of that fuel. I want you to write a 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: check right now for one hundred thousand dollars by tomorrow 173 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: back to the American taxpayer. And when they resisted, I 174 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: told them, look, this is either going to go straight 175 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: to an ig or to the Washington Post, or as 176 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: a criminal referral to the Justice Department. So I expect 177 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: you right now to return that money to the American 178 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: tax player. The good news was they did it because 179 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: they knew they were called out, they knew. 180 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: They were wrong. 181 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: And the other good news about it is, even though 182 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: it got very little press, people like Colin Pole and 183 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: Rich Armatage were about getting rid of that waste now. 184 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: So was Ronald Reagan. 185 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: But the big difference we've got right now is we've 186 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: got people who are in there making this their number 187 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: one priority. That they will go in there and they 188 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: will save the American taxpayer the dollars that are otherwise 189 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: being wasted and fraudulently spent. 190 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: So terrence, fraud is not the wrong word. It's a 191 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: very fitting word. 192 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 5: I try to choose my words carefully and to be fair, 193 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 5: but I appreciate you saying that, and my gut again 194 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 5: wanted to call it fraud. So I'm glad you did, 195 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 5: and I'll just refer to you. Well, I won't refer 196 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: to you, but I'll definitely move forward with that. Before 197 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 5: I let you go, I do want to switch gears 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 5: a little bit and talk about some of the confirmation 199 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 5: processes that are still going on. Just this morning, Tulcy 200 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 5: Gabbard was confirmed as d and I had I'd like 201 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 5: to talk about moving the government forward without having all 202 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 5: cabinet members in place. 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: How limiting is this, Well, it is limiting because when 204 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: you don't have a cabinet member, then you have an 205 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: acting cabinet member. The acting cabinet member typically comes out 206 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: of the bureaucracy, so it's not an individual that's going 207 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: to be aligned with the president's view nine times in ten. 208 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: So you do need to get these confirmations to happen. 209 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: That's why Schumer and the Democrats have slowed them down. 210 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,239 Speaker 1: Historically. 211 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: Historically, Terrence, it is appropriate, it is accepted. It is 212 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: the right course of action that a president gets the 213 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: appointees that he seeks unless there is something fundamentally wrong 214 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: with that candidate, and I mean fundamentally integrity level criminal 215 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: act In the past undiscovered, etc. The president's prerogative holds, 216 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: and that should be true, by the way, whether you're 217 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: a Republican or a Democrat. That's the way the Constitution 218 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: was formed. The Senate has advice and consent that they provide. 219 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: They're not here to give you three other options on 220 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: that candidate. 221 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: So sometimes they move quickly. 222 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: My confirmation, which was unanimous, actually happened in three days. 223 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: That's very unusual. 224 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: But in this case, I don't think it's wrong that 225 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: they're doing examinations of of these candidates. 226 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: But I also do believe that we need to get 227 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: on with it. 228 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: Because the president was elected by the United States, by 229 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: the people of the United States. Almost every single demographic 230 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 3: in the country jumped up from twenty twenty in support 231 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: of him. People don't want fraud, they don't want abuse, 232 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: they don't want to be misled, and they don't want 233 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: their dollars wasted. 234 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: And frankly, they. 235 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: Also want them allied with the mission of that bureau 236 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: or of that department. And I think the only way 237 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: you get that is to get your cabinet member up there, 238 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: confirmed and calling the shots. 239 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 5: So what in your mind is a reasonable amount of 240 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 5: time to have the entire cabinet confirm. I realize it's 241 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 5: only three weeks in now, not even a full month. 242 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: But what's a reasonable amount of time so that we 243 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 5: can really move forward with the business of the country. 244 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: Within the next couple of weeks. All cabinet members should 245 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: be their period. 246 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 5: Okay, and we'll leave it there. Robert Charles, we appreciate 247 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: your time. Always good to talk to you. 248 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: My friend. 249 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Always a blessing to be able to be on Thank you. 250 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: All right, we'll talk soon. Well, folks, we're going to 251 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 5: take a quick break when we come back. Fireworks today 252 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 5: during the first DOGE Subcommittee hearing, I'll show you some 253 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 5: of the highlights next America. 254 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: Or ashi you being here with us. 255 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 5: The House Subcommittee on the Department of Government Efficiency is 256 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: off to a flying start after holding its first hearing 257 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 5: on Capitol Hill today. The committee is chaired by Congresswoman 258 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 5: Marjorie Taylor Green. 259 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 7: We were each elected to serve and represent the American 260 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 7: people and how their hard earned tax dollars are spent. 261 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 7: We as Republicans and Democrats, can still hold tightly to 262 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 7: our beliefs, but we are going to have to let 263 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 7: go of funding them in order to save our sinking ship. 264 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Today's hearing focused on medicaid spending. 265 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 5: Moving forward, the committee is expected to work hand in 266 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 5: hand with President Trump to root out waste, to fix 267 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: broken payment systems, and to investigate fraud schemes. Joining me 268 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 5: now to further discuss what's next for DOJ and its 269 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 5: oversight committee, our committee Chairwoman Marjorie Taylor Green, as well 270 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: as our chief White House correspondent Brian Glenn. 271 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: Congresswoman, good to see you. Brian, Good to see you 272 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: as well. But I'm sorry you're going to have to 273 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: defer to the Congresswoman. Based on this morning's hearing. 274 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 5: Do you expect that this committee is actually going to 275 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 5: operate in a bipartisan fashion in order to truly ensure 276 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 5: that American taxpayer dollars are being spent in proper fashion. 277 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: You set that up in your opening remarks. I'm not 278 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: so sure. 279 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 5: I get the sense that that will happen, but i'd 280 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 5: love to get your perspective sitting on the committee. 281 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 7: You know, I always give people the benefit of the doubt. 282 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 7: Terrence and I had hoped that Democrats would come in 283 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 7: and be serious on this committee, but we saw today 284 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 7: that they weren't serious. Several of these members basically use 285 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 7: their five minutes to try to score political points, attack me, 286 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 7: attack Elon Musk, and attack President Trump. 287 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 6: It was really outrageous. 288 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 7: And you want to know something, I think their constituents 289 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 7: are watching very closely at how serious they take our 290 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 7: national debt, which is thirty six trillion dollars, and I 291 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 7: don't think it'll play well for them in the midterms 292 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 7: if they continue to go down this route. 293 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: Brian, what is the view from the White House? I 294 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 5: realized you just left the White House Press briefing. You 295 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: asked about doughj and today's hearing. What's the response. 296 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: What's the reaction, Well, the reaction that I received here 297 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: in this room, as far as listening to some of 298 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: the pushback that many of the press had in the 299 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: Democrats as I sat in that room for two hours 300 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: with Congresswoman green On that. 301 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: Hearing, was they simply don't want to hear it. 302 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: They don't want to see the receipts that are proving 303 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: the fraud, the abuse, the corruption that's in our government. 304 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: And of course, you know we had experts they are 305 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: testifying about the trillions of dollars of fraudulent payments. They 306 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: don't want to hear it. So, you know, I just 307 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: think it's very interesting how many in the media push 308 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 4: back on simply trying to find out how much fraud 309 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: we have in our government. This isn't a political party issue. 310 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: This is an American issue. This is a consumer issue. 311 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: And to Congresswoman Green's comments, I think many in their 312 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: districts are going to see these sound bites, these political theater, 313 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: this kabuki theater of just not taking this seriously. 314 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: They're going to see those and they're going to maybe. 315 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: Change their mind the next time they go to the 316 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: ballot box, because right now Democrats are not taking responsibility 317 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: for some of this corruption as Republicans seem to be. 318 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 5: Congress Woman, let's get to some nuts and bolts, explain 319 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: how you see dogs ultimately functioning and Elon Musk's influence 320 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: in the decision making as it relates to any fraud, waste, 321 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: or abuse that's found. 322 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you for that question, Terrence. So we finished 323 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 7: our first hearing today, which is about improper payments. We're 324 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 7: talking about two point seven trillion dollars that has been 325 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 7: improperly paid out to dead people, criminals, people that should 326 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 7: not be getting these checks and it has cost the 327 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 7: taxpayers tremendously. So in the next coming days my committee, 328 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 7: we will be issuing a report with our solutions, whether 329 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 7: it's legislation, whether it's cuts, whether it's working with chairs 330 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 7: of committees of jurisdiction to actually bring these solutions into action. 331 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 7: These are important actions that can take place. For example, 332 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 7: on the reconciliation budget. 333 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 6: I was very happy to. 334 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 7: Learn today from some of our witnesses, through the use 335 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 7: of technology, we can actually save the taxpayers maybe five 336 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 7: hundred billion dollars or more by stopping these improper payments. 337 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 7: So these aren't just hearings that I'm going to be 338 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 7: having on the Douche Committee here in Congress. We are 339 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 7: going to be presenting solutions that we will put into action, 340 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 7: and I'll also be bringing those to the Trump administration, 341 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 7: bringing those to Elon Musket Dog, and looking at the 342 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 7: important work that we can get done for immediate results, 343 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 7: not just five minute committee hearing. 344 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 6: Clips that go on your social media. 345 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, in Congresswoman, I wanted to ask you this question 346 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: following up on that statement, as many of us sat 347 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: in that room and watched it from at home, really 348 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 4: infuriated by the kind of the disrespect that the Democrats 349 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 4: showed this committee and the American people. What was going 350 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: through your mind at that particular time. You saw Rep. 351 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 4: Garcia break out a visual support to his five minutes, 352 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: which I think turned into a clown show and it 353 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: really discredited his ability to have an intellectual conversation. But 354 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: take me through what you were thinking when all this unfolded. 355 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: As we watch this hearing underway. 356 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 7: You know, it's actually pretty calm listening to them. You 357 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 7: have to remember this has been baptized baptism by. 358 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 6: Fire for me. 359 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 7: In the past four years under the Biden administration, I've 360 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 7: seen everything you can you can possibly see or go 361 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 7: through here serving under Nancy Pelosi as the first House 362 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 7: Speaker when I was in my first term, and then 363 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 7: also going through all the things that Democrats have done, 364 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 7: things that they've said in committees, things that they've said 365 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 7: on the House floor, and appalling legislation that they forced 366 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 7: us to vote on. But you know what, I found 367 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 7: it unfortunate, Brian, I actually did. I had hoped that 368 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 7: they would you see the moment and understand the reason 369 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 7: why they lost so big in November and try to 370 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 7: pivot perhaps, And I thought to myself, and I said 371 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 7: it in my opening statement. If members of Congress from 372 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 7: the far reaching corners of each of the political parties 373 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 7: can come together for solutions for the American people on 374 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 7: our very serious shared problem of thirty six trillion dollars 375 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 7: in debt, then America we can come together on anything. 376 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 7: But you know what Democrats decided to choose partisan politics, 377 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 7: play political theater, and try to produce attack ads, basically 378 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 7: is what some of that was. So if they want 379 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 7: to continue talent down this road, then their constituents and 380 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 7: their voters will know exactly what they're all about. 381 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 5: Congresswoman, as a casual observer, it seems to me that 382 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: some of the fraud and waste that's been uncovered by 383 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 5: DOGE is part of. 384 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: A systemic problem. 385 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 5: That it's yes, people taking advantage of the system, but 386 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: this system allowing it. 387 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: So Doge is out here to uncover it. But it 388 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: seems to me that the reality has got to be 389 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: to change the entire. 390 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 5: System otherwise it continues. Give us some perspective on that 391 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 5: if you don't mind. 392 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, Terrence, you're absolutely right, and none of this would 393 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 7: have ever been possible without Elon Musk and his DOGE 394 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 7: team and President Trump signing that executive order assigning this 395 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 7: important assignment to Elon musk Is a special government, special 396 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 7: government ployee, and putting his team into action in every 397 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 7: single department of the government. We wouldn't be able to 398 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 7: look in and find out all the things we found out. 399 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 6: I'll give you some examples. 400 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 7: Some of my Republican colleagues that I work with voted 401 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 7: to fund USAID when people like me wanted to defund it, 402 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 7: and that happened last Congress. Well, now that all this 403 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 7: information has come out on USAID, these were things that 404 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 7: I didn't know. These were things that my Republican colleagues 405 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 7: didn't know, even though we disagreed on funding and defunding. However, 406 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 7: many of my Republican colleagues are so shocked at the 407 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 7: information and how our hard earned money has been spent. 408 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 7: They're saying they regret those votes. They're saying they don't 409 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 7: want to fund USAID anymore the way that it is. 410 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 7: And so these are changes that have happened so fast, 411 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 7: and that's come through the transparency that Elon must get 412 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 7: dogees providing. However, we can't just rely on executive orders 413 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 7: and the executive branch alone, the legislative branch. Members of Congress, 414 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 7: like myself, the House, the Senate, we have to come 415 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 7: alongside the Doge effort, and we have to put this 416 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 7: into legislation, which puts it into law, that makes it permanent. 417 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 7: And this is how we really solve the crisis of 418 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 7: impending doom of thirty six trillion dollars in debt, and 419 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 7: it's dangerous compounding interest, not only for ourselves, for our 420 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 7: children and generations to come. 421 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 5: Brian, just a quick follow up, So, congresswoman, do you 422 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 5: anticipate actual legislation to solidify this, to entrench it in law, 423 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 5: or is there going to be a lot of hearings, 424 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 5: a lot of talk, a lot of rhinos, rhetoric, but 425 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: no real action. 426 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 427 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 7: You know, that's been one of my frustration is no action. 428 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 7: That's why I ran for Congress in the first place. 429 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 7: Herence is because I'm a person of action. I come 430 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 7: from I'm a small business owner. You know, we can't 431 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 7: survive unless we are doing a good job for our customers, 432 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 7: making a profit, and taking good care of our employees. 433 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 7: And so I'm taking that exact same approach here with 434 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 7: my subcommittee on DOJE on oversight. We have to create 435 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 7: real action that produces results that last for the American people, 436 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 7: because the American people are our customer and they deserve 437 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 7: excellent service. So I look forward to that report coming 438 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 7: out in a few days. 439 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 5: I'm sorry this al rdyana reb Brian, you've got the 440 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: last word, sor sir, we're running out of time. 441 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: O's SKay, thirty seconds. So what can we see next 442 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: in this subcommittee? What other topics can we see? We 443 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: got about thirty seconds. 444 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, great question, Brian. 445 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 7: Coming up next last week of February, it will be USAID, 446 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 7: so we can expect major temper tantrums there by the 447 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 7: Democrats that are continuing to protect their democracy and the 448 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 7: nasty things that USAID has funded. Going into March, you 449 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 7: will have NPR and PBS, and they finally confirmed today 450 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 7: a date for our hearing. That came after I had 451 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 7: to threaten a subpoena. So I'm glad that we're going 452 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 7: to get that one on the books and we'll roll 453 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 7: out the information soon. 454 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 5: I'm ordering my popcorn right now. Send Okay, it's gonna. 455 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: Be a get a bigger room too. I'm no get 456 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: a bigger room for that hearing Congresswoman. 457 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 5: Brian, we appreciate your time, thanks so much for joining 458 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 5: us to both of you. 459 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 6: Thank you, of course, thank you. 460 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 5: I had ten bipartisan bills aiming to give relief to 461 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 5: tax payers. 462 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: That story is next here on America's Voice Live. Welcome back, 463 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: every one. 464 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 5: The National Taxpayers Union is out with its fourteenth annual 465 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 5: No Brainers List. It highlights ten bipartisan bills aimed at 466 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 5: easing the burden on taxpayers. The bills, which span various 467 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 5: areas of fiscal reform, include efforts to improve IRS customer service, 468 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: reduce improper payments, and enhance financial transparency. These measures, by 469 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 5: the way, are designed to ensure better management of taxpayer 470 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 5: funds while promoting a more efficient government. Joining me now 471 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: to discuss this and so much more as the President 472 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: of the National Taxpayers Union, Pete Sep. 473 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: Pete, welcome, thanks for having me. 474 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: So let's start here. 475 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 5: What is the prospect for getting these ten bills that 476 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 5: we just mentioned over the finish line? 477 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: In your mind? Not bad? 478 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: Because we're having an increased focus on taxpayer interests rather 479 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: than special interests here in Washington, DC, and these no 480 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: brainer lists that we've been putting together for nearly fifteen 481 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: years now serve as grist for members of Congress on 482 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle, Republicans and Democrats, to say, hey, 483 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: they've got us here. These bills really are bipartisan. They 484 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: are simple to understand, They should have been passed ages ago, 485 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: and NTU National Taxpayers Union is telling us you got 486 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: to start here. I think they have a very very 487 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: good chance of passing several of these, especially since today's 488 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: topic of the so called Doge Committee. You had guests 489 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: on just in the last segment about this. We're talking 490 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: about improper payments, and two of these ten bills have 491 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: to do with just that, and again bipartisan. If Washington, 492 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: DC is serious about this and the Democrats are serious 493 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: about doing something about improper payments, here's the place to start. 494 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: Pete. We're going to talk about DOJE in a minute. 495 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 5: But as I was listening to you, I was thinking 496 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: to myself one of the major issues one of the 497 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 5: challenges for the IRS is people's confidence in the agency itself. 498 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 5: It seems to me that fundamentally, yeah, you can deal 499 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 5: with legislative stuff all you want, but if people don't 500 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 5: have much confidence in the agency, where do you really 501 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 5: start how much are you really moving moving the issue forward? 502 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 8: That's right. 503 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: I had the honor of being a witness yesterday at 504 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: the House Ways and Means Committee on IRS modernization. I 505 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: was one of five people there and it was an 506 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: excellent hearing because we were focusing on on the IRS's 507 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: promises of return on investment. Remember they got eighty billion 508 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: dollars worth of additional funding in the Inflation Reduction Act 509 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: versus what they've actually done. We've given the IRS a 510 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: grade of D on its modernization efforts for a number 511 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: of reasons. Yes, they've improved the clarity of forms and 512 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: the content of forms, but they've fallen down on the 513 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: job when it comes to replacing sixty sixty year old 514 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: computer systems, I mean from the Kennedy era, even the 515 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: Eisenhower era older than sixty. This is the individual master 516 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: file that has everybody's records in it, and the IRS 517 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: has been struggling to try and do this for years. 518 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: They've still failed despite getting an infusion of funding. That 519 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: has to change. That's one reason public confidence in the 520 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: IRS is so low. 521 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: All Right, Pete has promised I do want to talk 522 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: a bit about. 523 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 5: Dojen one of the centerpieces of some of these bills 524 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 5: that you mentioned is enhanced financial transparency, which is at 525 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 5: the heart of what DOGE is all about. 526 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. One of the bills this was introduced in 527 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: the last Congress. It can get reintroduced very easily by 528 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: Congressman A. Yakim of Indiana and Congressman Penetta a Democrat 529 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: Democrat from California. It's called the Improper Payment Transparency Act. 530 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: Requires the President's budget request to include detailed information on 531 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: improper payments. What that does is establish benchmarks on which 532 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: programs have problems with these payments when budgets are being 533 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: proposed for them, not after the fact when investigators find out, Gosh, 534 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: they've been misspending the money, but rather during budget season. 535 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: That's vital because it will give members of Congress perspective 536 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: on whether to increase or decrease the budgets of some 537 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: of these agencies. 538 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 5: Pete, you're a practical guy. What your agency does is practical. 539 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 5: But I'm going to ask you to put on your 540 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 5: philosophical hat, if you will. Does it benefit agencies, even 541 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: the irs, to be transparent about funding, particularly since their 542 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 5: funding is often based on the previous fiscal years expenditures. 543 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: It's a systemic issue. But let's just be honest. 544 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: There are a lot of these agencies who are going 545 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 5: to spend the money whether they need it or not, 546 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 5: just because they want to keep the funding for the 547 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 5: next fiscal year. 548 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do have to be transparent because of that 549 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: public skepticism we just spoke about. It's a new era 550 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: in Washington. I mean, I've seen this before where you 551 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: have the highlight on wasteful federal spending. Saw that in 552 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties, a brief period and the reinventing government 553 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: phase with Al Gore and Bill Clinton, then the Republican 554 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: takeover of Congress. But this is a vital moment, a 555 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: pivotal moment with Doge inside Congress, with the Caucus there, 556 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: those outside Congress with Elon Musk, a renewed focus on this, 557 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: and federal agencies would do themselves a great favor by saying, 558 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, we do need a course correction here, and 559 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: we want to work with reformers rather than against them, 560 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: Otherwise they're going to find themselves up against some serious 561 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: budget cuts. 562 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 5: We appreciate your time, Pete, good to talk to you. 563 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: Love this conversation. I suspect over the next four years, 564 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 5: you and I will be having this conversation quite a 565 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 5: bit more, because there's a lot. 566 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: Of work to be done. 567 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: It'll be a pleasure. 568 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely appreciate you being here. 569 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 5: Coming up after the break, Ice was shut out of 570 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 5: trying to get new recruits on NYU's campus. We'll take 571 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: a deeper look, excuse me, at this developing story. It's 572 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 5: next Welcome back to everyone. Officials from US Immigration Customs 573 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 5: Enforcement canceled student recruitment interviews for an on line New 574 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 5: York University School of Law career fair due to campus backlash. 575 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 5: A petition protesting ICE was signed by at least a 576 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 5: thousand students and organizations at NYU and other local law schools. 577 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: The petition said, and I'm quoting here, Ice is engaged 578 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 5: in the exact kinds of behavior that harms many students, 579 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: regardless of immigration status. The petition went on to argue 580 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 5: that Ice has a history of racial profiling, retaliating against 581 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 5: immigrant rights activists, ignoring the law, fabricating evidence, relying on 582 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 5: false evidence, confiscating in destroying documents and belongings of detainees, 583 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 5: and purposeless detentions. 584 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: Who that's a lot to take in. 585 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 5: Joining me now to discuss this and so much more 586 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 5: as Campus Reform correspondent and student at Old Dominion University 587 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 5: in Virginia, Grace McKennon. 588 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: Grace, what do you make of all of this? 589 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 5: What's going on with campuses across the country, specifically here NYU. 590 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 9: Yes, so here at the Leadership Institute's Campus Reform, we 591 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 9: are reporting that ICE was scheduled to have a student 592 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 9: interview for recruiting at NYU Law Career Fair just last week. 593 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 9: Now they were forced to cancel these interviews due to 594 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 9: a student protest on campus with over one thousand signatures. 595 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 9: And this is all amid President Trump's immigration crackdown on 596 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 9: across the nation, and these universities, presidents and student protesters 597 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 9: are just continuing to put illegal immigrants, illegal criminal immigrants, 598 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 9: above the safety and interest of the law abiding students. 599 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 5: Is this an indictment on law enforcement? It seems to 600 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 5: me that there's this pushback on college campuses against law 601 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 5: enforcement in general. 602 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 9: Yes, that is what I first thought of when I 603 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 9: saw this story. Now, first we're starting with ICE. Next 604 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 9: it's going to be military recruiters, police on campus, security 605 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 9: on campus. Where is the priority for safety for our students. 606 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 2: What is it going to take to turn this trend around? 607 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: In your opinion, I. 608 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 9: Think we're already starting to see a trend turning in 609 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 9: around with President Trump coming back into office. It's just 610 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 9: been a few weeks and he is already declared a 611 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 9: national border a national border crisis. By signing the Lake 612 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 9: and Riley Act. He is allowing ICE to do its 613 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 9: job by arresting these criminal immigrants. And we've already seen 614 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 9: the border crossing's plummet by ninety percent, and his approval 615 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 9: ratings are through the roof. 616 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 5: Grace McKinnon will have to leave the conversation there. 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That's TNUSA dot com slash rav. 643 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break. 644 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 5: When we come back, we're gonna be talking gold and 645 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 5: how it's your best head against a weekend dollar. My 646 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 5: favorite guest from across the pond, Philip Patrick from the 647 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 5: Birch Gold Group, He's gonna drop by next that afternoon. 648 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: In San Francisco. 649 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: I think we're getting close to afternoon there. We appreciate 650 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 5: those of you watching from San Francisco. We appreciate you 651 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 5: joining us. President Trump is moving forward with a twenty 652 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 5: five percent tariff on steel and aluminum in hopes of 653 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 5: giving struggling US industries a bit of a shot in 654 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 5: the arm. On Tuesday, the President of the European Commission 655 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 5: expressed her strong disapproval of the US President's decision, which 656 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 5: of course was revealed on Monday night. She emphasized, quote, 657 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 5: the imposition of unwarranted tariffs on the EU will not 658 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: go without a response. The big question could this move 659 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 5: by President Trump lead to a trade war? 660 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 2: Here with me to. 661 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 5: Discuss that and so much more as precious metal specialists 662 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 5: at the Birch Gold Group, Philip Patrick, Philip, good to 663 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 5: see you. 664 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 8: Thank you for having me, Terrence. 665 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 5: All right, so put this idea of tariffs on steel 666 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 5: and aluminum into economic logic for us. 667 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 10: Look, I think there's a couple of different things that 668 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 10: the President Trump is looking at here. Number one is 669 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 10: to predect domestic industries. Right, we have the steel industry. 670 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 8: Pittsburgh of course well known for that. 671 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 10: We need to protect our domestic steel industry and create 672 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 10: jobs here. 673 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 8: In the United States. 674 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 10: The other side of it, though, I think, was with 675 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 10: national security in mind. Right, our domestic steel and illuminum 676 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 10: refining isn't enough to supply American industries, and that's a problem. 677 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 8: Right. 678 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 10: Defense aerospace industries are highly dependent on both steel and aluminum, 679 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 10: and we're currently importing twenty five percent of our steel 680 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 10: and eighty percent of our aluminum. That could be a 681 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 10: big problem. It reminds me of supply chain issues back 682 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 10: at the beginning of the Ukraine War. We couldn't make 683 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 10: any more Javelin anti tank missiles essentially because we didn't 684 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 10: have the chips to do so. So I see this 685 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 10: as another move to make American manufacturing less reliant on 686 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 10: global supply chains and essentially foreign nations. 687 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 5: Just three weeks in the President Trump's administration, are we 688 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 5: in an economic revolution? And I asked that question given 689 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 5: dulge and kind of looking into government efficiency. They're terroriffs, 690 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 5: which he is using not only as an economic tool 691 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 5: but also a bargaining chip. So much has changed so quickly. 692 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 10: Listen, an economic revolution is probably the best way to 693 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 10: phrase it. And the reality is it was our only option. 694 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 10: Four more years of you know, Kamala Harris or or 695 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 10: Biden esque policy would have thrown us off the cliff. 696 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 10: This administration clearly understand the problems. They're looking at deficits, 697 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 10: they're looking at debt, they're looking at revenues, they're looking 698 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 10: at bricks. So their priorities are straight. But it is 699 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 10: going to take a complete overhaul of the economy to 700 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 10: get us out of this mess. That is what they 701 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 10: are attempting to do here. It is very encouraging. They 702 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 10: just need the time to do it. That's going to 703 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 10: be the big question. 704 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 5: Well, President Trump is dealing with everything from big dollars 705 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 5: to the penny. One of his latest ideas is to 706 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 5: stop minting the pennies. Says it costs more to mint 707 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 5: the thing than the thing is actually worth. It's an 708 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 5: interesting idea, probably not a novel idea, but pretty ingenious. 709 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: Makes sense. 710 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 10: Pretty listen, it's a sign. And that's what to say. 711 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 10: Common sense is back in the White House. It's a 712 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 10: good sign. 713 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 8: Listen. 714 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 10: Like you implied, it's a drop in the bucket. But 715 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 10: what sense does it make that we're making pennies that 716 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 10: cost four pennies to make. LED's literally nonsensical. And not 717 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 10: only are we wasting money on it, we're borrowing money 718 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 10: to waste money on it. Which makes it even more absurd. 719 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 10: We spend in twenty twenty three alone one hundred and 720 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 10: eighty million dollars making pennies, and it gets worse. A 721 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 10: single nickel costs about fourteen cents to make right now, 722 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:44,720 Speaker 10: and we make. 723 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 8: Billions of those in years. 724 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 10: So this sort of you know, microscope, if you will, 725 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 10: on public finances I think is very important at a 726 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 10: very important time. This is a drop in the bucket, 727 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 10: but it's a sign of more common sense policies coming 728 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 10: down the pipe. 729 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 5: And all of that brings us to gold, which you 730 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 5: and I have often talked about, is a hedge against 731 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 5: the dollar, against the failing value of the dollar, and 732 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 5: if the penny isn't even worth it to make, I 733 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 5: think that might be a sign, right. 734 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 8: I think it's more than a sign. 735 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 10: And since we've been talking about it, gold has been 736 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 10: going up and up and up, even since Trump took office. 737 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 10: We've set all time highs I think on three occasions 738 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 10: since Trump took office. 739 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 8: And it's a sign of the struggles in front of us. 740 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 10: Even the administration are warning us, listen, you don't deal 741 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 10: with a two trillion dollar deficit, a thirty six trillion 742 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 10: dollar debt problem without going through hardship first. That's where 743 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 10: precious metals come in. We expect them to set new 744 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 10: highs consistently throughout the year as we try and iron 745 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 10: these problems out. 746 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 8: The administration. No, it's going to be a bumpy ride. 747 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 10: They're telling us it's going to be a bumpy ride, 748 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 10: and I think precious metals are the way to ease 749 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 10: those bumps. 750 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 5: And that's where you and your colleagues at the Birch 751 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 5: Gold Group come in. And the reality is precious metals 752 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 5: is simply an investment vehicle. 753 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you have to put all of your money 754 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: into it. 755 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 10: Absolutely. I think the key here is to hedge our exposure. 756 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 10: President Trump and the team. I am crossing my fingers. 757 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 10: I am praying that they. 758 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 8: Pull it off. 759 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 10: If they do, it will be the single greatest economic 760 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 10: feat in human history. No nation has come back from 761 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 10: a debt position a deficit problem like we have today. 762 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 10: I have faith in President Trump and his team, but 763 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 10: I'm hedging my bets just as they are and just 764 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 10: as everyone else should be. 765 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 5: Well, if you just want to slide me a little 766 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 5: bit of gold on the side, I will take it happily. 767 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 2: My friend. Always good to see. We appreciate you being here. 768 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 8: Thank you, Terence. I appreciate being on. 769 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: Always a pleasure. 770 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 5: And folks, if you're interested in the Birch Gold group, 771 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 5: simply text the word America to the number ninety eight 772 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 5: ninety eight ninety eight today or that's ninety eight ninety 773 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 5: eight ninety eight. Do so today, get your free information 774 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 5: kit on Gold. Don't wait, text them today and secure 775 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 5: your savings. All right, folks, after the break, we're gonna 776 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 5: have a story that reminds us of just how wonderful 777 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 5: America is. Plus we'll have your answers to America's Voice 778 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 5: question to day. Here it is, should there be any 779 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 5: current federal spending social security, defense, border security, etc. 780 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 2: That is safe from Doge cuss. 781 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 5: Looking forward to your answers. We're back with what makes 782 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 5: America wonderful and today we're shouting out parents, in this 783 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 5: particular case, moms who go above and beyond for their kids. 784 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 5: Ninety five year old Malfine Fogel is the face of 785 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 5: today's segment. Back in twenty twenty two, her son Mark 786 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 5: was in prison in Russia and sentenced to fourteen years 787 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 5: for drug trafficking. He was arrested for possessing medical marijuana, 788 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 5: which had been legally prescribed to him here in. 789 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: The United States. 790 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 5: Since then, though, Malphine has been tirelessly seeking ways to 791 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 5: bring her son back home to Western Pennsylvania. She even 792 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 5: went on a media campaign. She reached out to Pennsylvania lawmakers, 793 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 5: even spoke to then presidential candidate Donald Trump prior to 794 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 5: his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. For years, her son Mark 795 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 5: went without the wrongfully detained designation, which could have helped 796 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 5: pave the way for his release years ago. Last year, though, 797 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 5: Malphine filed a lawsuit against Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln. 798 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 5: But even that didn't help bring your son home. Then, 799 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 5: a month after that lawsuit, the now ninety five year 800 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 5: old was invited to speak with Donald Trump on the 801 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 5: very same day that he was shot during a campaign rally. 802 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 5: That conversation led to a mother's prayers ultimately being answered 803 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 5: and Mark Fogel returning home to the United States after 804 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 5: his release and meeting with President Trump at the White 805 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 5: House last night, Fogel said, I want you to know 806 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 5: that I'm not a hero in this at all. President 807 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 5: Trump is a hero. These men that came from the 808 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 5: Dipping Service are heroes. But to many Americans and sons 809 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 5: and daughters across this country, the real hero here is 810 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 5: Malphine Fole, a mom who never gave up on her son. 811 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 5: And that is why moms and dads are what truly 812 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 5: make America wonderful. All right, folks, let's get to the 813 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 5: America's Voice question of the day. 814 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 2: Here it is on your screen. 815 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 5: Should there be any current federal spending social Security, defense, 816 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 5: border security, etc. That is safe from doge cuts who? 817 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 5: I can't wait to hear your thoughts on this one. 818 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 5: Lisa Johnson shout out to you. We appreciate you chiming 819 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 5: in here. You right, the fraud has to stop. That 820 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 5: means going through everything, capital everything here, as you can see, 821 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 5: start with the clean slate and go forward. Kim Spielman 822 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 5: her Ward writes, there are thousands upon thousands of people 823 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 5: who are receiving Social Security benefits and medicare that are 824 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 5: abusing the system. But for me, I need to survive. 825 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 5: Don't shut the door on me and those who need it. 826 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Kim, We appreciate your thoughts. And 827 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,959 Speaker 5: Carol Frank, thank you for chiming in writing only money 828 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 5: being spent fraudulently should be targeted. If it's getting to 829 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 5: it's rightful place, leave it alone. Isn't that the purpose 830 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 5: of doge? 831 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: Uh? 832 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 2: Interesting thought there. Up next is Bonnie Budele. 833 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 5: She writes, find out if the money is actually getting 834 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 5: to those individuals that have earned it, and make sure 835 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 5: the money is getting into the wrong and make sure 836 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 5: the money isn't getting into the wrong hands, I think 837 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 5: she means. And then there's Richard Wayasik. He writes, very simply, 838 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 5: get rid of all fraud. I love that, and I 839 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 5: think most people on Capitol Hill who are actually listening 840 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 5: to what their constituents are saying would agree with you 841 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 5: on that. Get rid of all fraud. Joanna Jenkins Robinson writes, 842 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 5: DOAGE subcommittee hearing now in process. The Dems are using 843 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 5: our frontline protection like police and firefighters. They wanted to 844 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 5: defund and did do it. Is what they're using for excuses. 845 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,919 Speaker 5: That committee hearing, of course wrapped up about an hour 846 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 5: hour and a half ago, so we appreciate you chiming in. 847 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 5: And Margaret Covin writes, well, if there's checks going out 848 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 5: to people one hundred and fifty years only, social Security 849 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 5: definitely needs an audit. 850 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: And finally, Wendy Logan writing, no, if being. 851 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 5: Improperly spent, these expenditures must be eliminated or paused at 852 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 5: the very. 853 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: Least for investigation. Thanks to each and every one of 854 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 2: you for chiming in. 855 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 5: We really appreciate your thoughts and we appreciate you being 856 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 5: here with us for American's Voice Live. I'm Terrence Bates. 857 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 5: We'll see you back here, same time, same place tomorrow. 858 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 5: Have a good rest of the afternoon.