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Speaker 2: I'm just about that action.

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Speaker 1: Also, we got a lot of one talk it out talking.

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Speaker 1: Am I reading this right?

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Speaker 2: Where you go?

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Speaker 5: Welcome into the Action Network podcast. We are presented by FanDuel.

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Speaker 5: Really excited for this one.

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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 5: NFL Draft, the twenty twenty three NFL Draft is vastly approaching.

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Speaker 5: We're just a month or so away. Our NFL Draft

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Speaker 5: betting update. April twenty seventh is the date that we

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Speaker 5: are all looking forward to eighty eighth edition of the Draft.

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Speaker 5: Brendan Glasheen, Luke Swayin, Travis Reed. Travis and Luke great

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Speaker 5: expert to have joining here. They're really sharp on the

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Speaker 5: market and they're looking forward to diving in a lot

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Speaker 5: to get to.

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Speaker 1: I will say off the top that this.

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Speaker 5: Is one of many Action Network podcasts that we'll have

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Speaker 5: covering the draft. We're going to join you every week,

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Speaker 5: so we have college basketball. Of course, we're going to

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Speaker 5: be covering a lot of college hoops next week, so

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Speaker 5: the week of March twenty nine, twenty twenty Second will

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Speaker 5: be coming at you on a weekly basis leading up

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Speaker 5: to the draft in the twenty seventh, So six weeks

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Speaker 5: of coverage. We're going to get into markets, pre draft process,

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Speaker 5: free agency rumor, modeling, the hype list, takeaway from the combine,

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Speaker 5: what we're invested in, what bets we like.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: Of course we're presented by FanDuel, so odds will come

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Speaker 5: from there enough for me, we'll just start with a

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Speaker 5: simple softball. We'll go to Luke first. How do you

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Speaker 5: have an edge in the market? What kinds of things

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Speaker 4: Probably my favorite thing to bet on in what I've

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Speaker 2: And you just have to think of it this.

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Speaker 4: Way, where you could have that perfect bat in a

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Speaker 4: Allen goes down and that's something that you couldn't predict,

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden that that is over where

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Speaker 4: the draft, there's information, there's mock drafts. It's really informational

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Speaker 4: based and you can know the answers to the test.

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Speaker 4: You know the answers to the test. Goodell just has

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Speaker 4: to take that card to the podium and that wins.

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Speaker 4: So the whole process, it's really based off of the information,

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Speaker 4: which we're going to get into that. But really the

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Speaker 4: I think when the super Bowl, but really it's just

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Speaker 5: For me, Travis Reed, take us inside your process what

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Speaker 3: As the market has gotten bigger, the limits have gotten bigger,

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Speaker 3: Like Luke said, you're able to actually make some money

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Speaker 3: from pretty much everywhere. The mock drafts are good, they'll

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Speaker 1: So of course there's a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of information to digest, as you guys said, taking a

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Speaker 1: What could they go bet?

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Speaker 4: So right now there's first player to go based off

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Speaker 5: Travis, how do you compartmentalize information you have now with

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Speaker 3: The reason those reporters gain more infos because the team's

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Speaker 3: There's going to be a ton of this stuff. Some

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Speaker 4: And with the mock drafts, like for me, and I'm

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Speaker 4: Just how a power rating in football or any sport,

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Speaker 2: But we're in the media now who are.

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Speaker 4: Making mock drafts for the Clicks, and you know they

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Speaker 5: how do you pick them apart, pick and choose what

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Speaker 5: Curiosity agents, I know these guys they might pick an

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Speaker 5: Well, good, there's something to avoid as far as dates

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Speaker 4: With free agency coming, which there's a couple of lessons

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Speaker 4: First one that I've learned is not condensing yourself with

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Speaker 4: Free agency quarterback usually is the one that isn't gonna

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Speaker 4: Richardson to the Seahawks like that's where I very much

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, I would love to get into the

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Speaker 4: Because it's kind of chaos right now, and when you're

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Speaker 4: Where chaos creates opportunity when you're betting under the draft

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Speaker 4: and the books are setting the odds like strategically now

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Speaker 4: just taking them down, which is smart. I would do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should so look and everything.

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Speaker 5: You guys just discussed the prospects of the Lions the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: That's info, folks.

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Speaker 5: That we will certainly dive into in later episodes down

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Speaker 5: biggest rumor right now as it pertains to the draft,

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Speaker 5: Adam Schefter ESPN end of February. He was the one

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Speaker 5: the Chicago Bears have been approached by multiple teams about

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Speaker 2: So they have to.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's you just have to any any mock drafts,

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Speaker 2: It's going to get traded.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 5: So when that time comes, though, how luke swayin? Right

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Speaker 5: now as we sit here, it has not been moved yet.

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Speaker 5: How do you go about breaking it down from a

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Speaker 1: The pick, you follow me? So the number is a

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Speaker 4: No, I like the number one pick, odds are set

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Speaker 2: Has a sixty six percent chance to go number one.

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Speaker 4: These odds are just Bryce Young has been the consensus

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Speaker 2: There, which would be insane to me. But who knows.

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Speaker 5: But you have a thought on this, Travis, as far

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Speaker 1: Travis Reed is a.

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Speaker 3: Better Yeah, it's like Luke said it, it's always expected

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Speaker 3: Could you either have to trade that pick or trade

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Speaker 4: Hot Let me remind you this GM traded a second

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Speaker 3: Should We should always caveat that. Nothing as one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: think some people are just going to be scared of

441
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 3: the height of Bryce Young. You look at all the

442
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: tape and It's like, yeah, he does everything correctly, but

443
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 3: then you get those measurements at the combine and you

444
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 3: get a little bit worried. We just saw Kyler Murray

445
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 3: go down with an injury. He's had trouble and he's

446
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 3: he's actually a little bit bigger than Bryce Young and

447
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 3: that was kind of his bugaboo as going the first

448
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 3: pick was maybe he's too small, So maybe that scares

449
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: off a team or two. And I think Stroud is

450
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: right there. I think if you've missed the boat on Richardson,

451
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 3: it's you still can take a shot obviously if you

452
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: want to, but you've been much better off, you know,

453
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 3: doing end a week or two a bill.

454
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Fanda has the best Ogen Richardson by far.

455
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: There there's somewhat that like Fando has rich In a

456
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 4: plus six hundred right now and the market has him

457
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Speaker 4: at plus three hundred. Yeah, I agree with Travis. Like

458
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 4: to me, if I was making a mock draft today,

459
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 4: I would put Strad.

460
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: Number one as well.

461
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 4: Okay, And in terms of the bets that I have,

462
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Speaker 4: I'm just totally team no Bryce, Like, as long as

463
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Speaker 4: Bryce doesn't go number one, we're good, So I'll take

464
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 4: I think it's stroud, but I also like Richardson will

465
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 4: be fine. But Fandola has the best odds on Richardson

466
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 4: by a decent margin right now, So that.

467
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Speaker 5: This kind of leads into the next discussion about the

468
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Speaker 5: hype list, and Richardson's been the topic of conversation right

469
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Speaker 5: because of his broad jump and his vertical jump. I'll

470
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 5: be honest, I had never heard of the broad jump.

471
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 5: I'm looking up broad jump ten feet nine inches. I

472
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 5: guess that that's pretty good considering how he has rose

473
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Speaker 5: up the board. So he was a big takeaway from

474
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Speaker 5: the combine. Is there anybody else though that might be?

475
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 5: And this is why we bring you guys on and

476
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 5: talk about this stuff, because Richardson's making headlines. Anybody else

477
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 5: jump out to you from a combine hype standpoint?

478
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: Luke So going to the combine of the list and

479
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 4: one of the guys, I'm actually pretty salty. He went

480
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: off on the combine where intentionally, guys I think that

481
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 4: are falling first off, like I think Miles Murphy, who's

482
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 4: been mocked in the top ten for months, he's definitely falling.

483
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Speaker 4: I'm seeing him outside of the first round. I think

484
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 4: Quentin Johnson's falling.

485
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: A little bit.

486
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 4: Michael Meyer might be a little bit. That might just

487
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Speaker 4: be a result of the combine and in Kinkaid getting

488
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Speaker 4: a lot of high specific from Jeremiah and then Hyatt,

489
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 4: who I love, I think he's falling a little as well.

490
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: Guys that I have been I had like ear plugged

491
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Speaker 4: for like they're over unders when they came out, I

492
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: was going to take their nut like they're under, which

493
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Speaker 4: I am so upset that Nolan Smith went off combine

494
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 4: because that guy I was like he I was ready

495
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 4: to pounce when he's over under game because like I

496
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 4: had planted my flag, he's going number one, and then

497
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 4: he puts up most freakish numbers ever for an edge rusher.

498
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 4: And now it's like his over runner went from probably

499
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Speaker 4: opening at thirty and a half too, it's probably gonna

500
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Speaker 4: come out of like nineteen and a half now conservatively,

501
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Speaker 4: maybe even lower. I saw him in Mockcaffs in the

502
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 4: top ten yesterday, so that has somewhat gotten cooked. But

503
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Speaker 4: the the guys that I think are you can earplug

504
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 4: that are gonna I think are gonna rise. I would

505
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: say Osirus Osirius Terrence. I think Darnell Wright can rise,

506
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 4: Emmanuel Forges can rise, Keon White can't see I had

507
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 4: ear plugged and that's kind of over because of the combine. Yeah,

508
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 4: I would say those are like the guys to earplug

509
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 4: where Jeremiah this podcast also said that he could see

510
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: Darnell Wright being the first off into the leman off

511
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 4: the board. It wasn't like something he was like, it

512
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 4: wasn't a main talking point. Those are the types of

513
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Speaker 4: things that you had to pick up and pop or

514
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: like mock drafts or mock drafts are great, but there's

515
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 4: a lot of like tea leaves within the context and

516
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 4: zero line does it a lot, a lot where you

517
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: could totally miss it if you're just scrolling through and

518
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 4: speed reading.

519
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Speaker 2: But they are very valuable.

520
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Speaker 1: Travis, you have anything to jump in. I mean we

521
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Speaker 1: can get into this too.

522
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Speaker 5: I kind of should have asked what we talked about

523
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 5: free agency, Like with skill positions at receiver. I know

524
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Speaker 5: there's a couple guys from TCU Ohio State. There's receivers

525
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 5: that are getting some noise to be mid first round into.

526
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Speaker 1: The first round.

527
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Speaker 5: I bring it up because it's not a great skill

528
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 5: position free agent class, so is there a chance for receivers,

529
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Speaker 5: maybe tight end.

530
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Speaker 3: I think there was one name left, though I think

531
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Speaker 3: Luke mentioned about thirty others. There was one left, Darnell

532
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: Washington from Georgia. Tight End basically broke all the combine

533
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: records for tight end. He was super fast, and then

534
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 3: he made the one handed catch which was kind of

535
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: going viral on Twitter, which it's really fun because he

536
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: had like very little production at college or he just

537
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: wasn't really asked to catch much. I think he's a

538
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: guy who could be on the rise. I see a

539
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: bunch of Marx now like firmly in the first round

540
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: where he was kind of just he's six seven, yeah,

541
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Speaker 3: the key, Yeah, just the massive, massive dude who can

542
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Speaker 3: also just move. So I think he's a guy who's

543
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Speaker 3: going to be on the rise. And I think tight

544
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: end in general just really good class for tight ends.

545
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Speaker 3: If you're looking for one, I think you could easily

546
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Speaker 3: see three in the first round, possibly squeeze it the

547
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: four if Luke Musgrave were to rise at all, or

548
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: you know, people just start to feel like they're missing out.

549
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that is because, like

550
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 3: you mentioned, the wide receiver classes a little down especially

551
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 3: compared to last year you have like the Lave and Wilson.

552
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 3: We don't really have those type of prospects in this class.

553
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: But I do think Jackson, Smith and Jigbud did really

554
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 3: well at the combine. You know the three cone, how

555
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: well he was able to change direction. I think a

556
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: lot of teams are going to look at that and

557
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: probably move him up, especially if you're looking for like

558
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: a slot receiver. I think he fits that mold really

559
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: well well. There was a lot of question marks on

560
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: him since he missed a lot of the season with

561
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 3: an injury. I think he answered a lot of those.

562
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: He's the favorite for first receiver, although I still think

563
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: there's kind of a tier there where any of those

564
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: three or four guys could probably you know, you could

565
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: take a stab at some of those at plus.

566
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 4: Odds, And with Jackson, it's very where I think the

567
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: Texans are the favorite to get Bryce, where the Texans

568
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Speaker 4: have another pick at twelve, and when you're taking a

569
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 4: quarterback first, you're either going QB.

570
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: Or tackle or QB and wide receiver.

571
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Speaker 4: And if the Texans get Brice, it would make a

572
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 4: lot of sense for them to get his Ohio State

573
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: teammate Jackson game at twelve. Again, there's gonna be a

574
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 4: lot of name butchering on this but which that might

575
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: be a little too high, but who knows.

576
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could see the Patriots like if

577
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: they just want to shove them in the West, welcome.

578
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 4: No, no Patriots drafting wide receiver.

579
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: Privileges have been ridden. The bolts. They're not allowed to

580
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: take a receiver they've never hit. That's a trigger.

581
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 3: That's that's why they need one so bad, because the

582
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: receiver room is just nothing at this point. They have

583
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: to get it right at some point, you would think.

584
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 5: So we got a couple more things to discuss before

585
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 5: we wrap up. So one of the markets I always

586
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: find interesting too is like the over unders for positions.

587
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: We kind of got into tight end a bit there.

588
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 5: There could be some stock rising and tight ends in

589
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: the first round. And Luke mentioned very early in the

590
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 5: in the show about corner because of what you know,

591
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 5: I remember quite corner last year. It was a very

592
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 5: popular position, at least in the first round. But with

593
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 5: many secondary players available in free agency, corner and safety,

594
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 5: what what market?

595
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: What other markets? And then we just hit on tight

596
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: end a bit there.

597
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 5: But from a market perspective, what else are we eager

598
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 5: to see drop Luke from a or the over under?

599
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: How do how would you handle the over under market?

600
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Speaker 5: I guess I'm using as an example something we won't

601
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 5: have yet, but it's that's going to come down the road.

602
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: So position all runners usually come out like around now

603
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: where those usually come out before like the specific player

604
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: over runners are released, which there have been a couple

605
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 4: of positional runners that have been like walks to the century.

606
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: And you understand that minus two hundred betting into the

607
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: draft does not equal minus two hundred betting a regular

608
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: football game or whatever it is, where minus two hundred

609
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 4: very well, if you have the right information, might as

610
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: well be minus infinity.

611
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: And that is okay. Where there have been a couple

612
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: that I've.

613
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 4: Weighed ridiculous prices because it was like should have been

614
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: minus infinity. And I think the best one was over

615
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: over one and a half Notre Dame players drafted in

616
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: the first round. And it was the year that those

617
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: two offensive linemen, I forget their names, the guy from

618
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: the Colts and then they got from the Niners from.

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Speaker 2: The top ten.

620
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Speaker 4: But corner like, they're very in the combine helped corner the.

621
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Speaker 2: Most, where yeah, there's like six or seven first round

622
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: talent corners, and I.

623
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: Could very well see six and a lot of those

624
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: guys that were on like the risk of first and

625
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: second round went off in a combine like Deontay Bench

626
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: is the name that comes to mind first where I

627
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: was seeing them, and.

628
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: I probably like right now, I have him at.

629
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: I had him at like fifty percent going in the

630
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: first round, and then since the combine, I have him

631
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Speaker 4: sixty five, which he broke every record, So I think

632
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: this could be This is probably the most like the

633
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: corner class doesn't have like the top end talent like

634
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: it has in the past, but this is probably the

635
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: most like stacked corner market in terms of how many

636
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: there are that can't go in the first that I

637
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 4: can I've seen in a long time, and it's becoming

638
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 4: a past heavy league, so Corner's gonna become more important.

639
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: But like corner I was, and I have like in

640
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: my head and I love just setting lines as if

641
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 4: I was setting myself like corner I five and a

642
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: half tight end, I would make three and a half.

643
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: That's like the process as well, like setting these lines

644
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 4: for when they do come out. Because these lines come out,

645
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: especially the runners, they don't last very long. These things

646
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: move like lightning because any type of money that they get,

647
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: because they don't really know, they're going to move them

648
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: where if I wanted to go, if I want to

649
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: go back one hundred and fifty dollars, whatever it is

650
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: based on the limits on number one pick, like the

651
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: odds are probably going to move where in a regular

652
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 4: market it would not move on.

653
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: A hundred dollars. Any type of money that they get

654
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Speaker 2: is going to move it.

655
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 4: And being the first to it until the market matures

656
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: is very important, which is why you want to like

657
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Speaker 4: set your lines prior so that would you have a

658
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Speaker 4: framework to go off of when they open.

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Speaker 1: Travis anything to add on that. That's a good one too.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the school the school bets over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've always done matchups, but it seems like they're

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Speaker 3: coming out earlier, and I'm interesting to see if they'll

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Speaker 3: do even more if like the matchups are just a

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Speaker 3: few pages long, because then I think you can, you know,

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Speaker 3: really pick off some value there. So that's something I'm

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Speaker 3: interested As the draft gets more TV ratings, Like they're

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Speaker 3: just the betting options on all these sites are just

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Speaker 3: getting bigger and bigger, so I'm hoping to see some

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Speaker 3: more of that, of those matchup type things. I also

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Speaker 3: one thing I know everybody focuses and we'll focus on

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Speaker 3: the first round, but after that first round, they'll come

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Speaker 3: out with second round bets and things like that, and

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Speaker 3: they'll even come out with bets for that Saturday where

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Speaker 3: it's fourth round and on. And if you think they

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Speaker 3: don't know anything about the first round, just imagine until

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Speaker 3: you get into those later rounds is then nobody knows anything.

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Speaker 3: So then you can really pick off some stuff.

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Speaker 4: In the last two years, the first pick of the

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Speaker 4: second round has come out like yeah publically on social

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Speaker 4: media and like those and they were very and they

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Speaker 4: both were very betterble like the guy the corner the

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Speaker 4: Jack Suck was like plus five hundred for a little

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Speaker 4: while and it was out there to be the first

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Speaker 4: pick of the second round. And then last year the

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Speaker 4: bucks they tackle Yeah, yeah, his overrunder was way high

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Speaker 4: because they called over runners as well, and it got

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Speaker 4: that down very quickly, but it was out there and.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like.

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Speaker 4: Intel that you had, like you're getting text messages like

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Speaker 4: there were tweets coming out on with the Bucks going

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Speaker 4: to take and they're just sitting there because remember, like

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Speaker 4: this is a very niche market, and the sportsbooks have

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Speaker 4: march manners to worry about. They have a lot of

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Speaker 4: things to worry about, like football is king, but this

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Speaker 4: is probably one of the few windows where it's still

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Speaker 4: technically like Lamar Jackson was getting all the hype yesterday

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Speaker 4: and football isn't even playing or it's just a lot

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Speaker 4: going on and they don't have any idea and that's

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Speaker 4: why it is so sensitive, and that's why it can

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Speaker 4: be leveraged.

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Speaker 5: What bets would you recommend taking? Now, we'll go to

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Speaker 5: Luke first and Travis and we'll get out of here.

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Speaker 4: So I think Travis not gonna line on this, Like

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Speaker 4: I genuinely think Stroud is going to go number one

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Speaker 4: right now, which I think it will only come down

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Speaker 4: Vandal is plus three hundred right now.

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of best to make currently there will.

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Speaker 1: Be, Travis, Do you have anything?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have taken a few Paris Johnson over Scaransky

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Speaker 3: in a matchup it's minus one twenty that's still available.

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Speaker 3: That's mostly just based on I'm seeing a lot of

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Speaker 3: rumors where teams are looking at Scaransky is more of

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Speaker 3: a guard than a tackle, and just in general, teams

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Speaker 3: are going to value the tackle more. I do think

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Speaker 3: Roderick Jones might actually sneak into the first tackle taken.

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Speaker 3: But as far as just a matchup, I like taking

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Speaker 3: Paris Johnson, like I said, that's available. I think Anthony

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Speaker 3: Richardson over Levis is another matchup. You can take minus

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Speaker 3: two to fifty right now. But like Luke said, if

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Speaker 3: you think he's for sure and we're hearing rumors like

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Speaker 3: he might go one, I think Levis is pretty firmly

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Speaker 3: in the last quarterback of these four, so I think

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Speaker 3: minus two to fifty is fine to lay that price.

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Speaker 3: And if you want to go with my hype guy

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Speaker 3: Darnell Washington, plus three fifty to be first tight end taken.

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Speaker 3: Definitely on the outside looking in. But I think the

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Speaker 3: more pro days, the more of these flashes of this

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Speaker 3: huge human being running down the field, is gonna entice

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Speaker 3: some of these gms to take him. I think that

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Speaker 3: price is gonna drop. So I like taking him now, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, mayor Kincaid or the guys he hopes to hop over.

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Speaker 5: But again we're just scratching the surface here on the

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Speaker 5: Action Network Podcast, our NFL Draft pilot episode Gensus was fun.

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Speaker 5: This was a good breakdown, a lot of nuts and

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Speaker 5: bolts off the top, and we're just kind of getting

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Speaker 5: into it here, diving into some rumors. And I look

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Speaker 5: forward to the update next week. Travis Reed, Lukeswayne Brendan

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Speaker 5: glashing again.

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Speaker 1: We'll be with you.

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Speaker 5: We have March Madness next week after next week, so

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Speaker 5: two weeks from now, we'll have another NFL Draft betting

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Speaker 5: preview episode and really everyone's gonna start jumping in on

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Speaker 5: this coverage. So but the three of us will be

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Speaker 5: here leading up to mid April when the draft starts.

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Speaker 5: That first round, of course, is slated for Thursday, April two,

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Speaker 5: twenty seven. Thanks to the guys, we'll join you all

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