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Speaker 2: Steelers last night. It was a very deceptive final score

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Speaker 2: because it didn't feel thirty to six. We went into

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter two minutes in. It's a one point game.

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Speaker 2: The Texans played great defense.

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Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud didn't play well at all. The Steelers were kind

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Speaker 2: of The Steelers defense played pretty well. They just weren't

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Speaker 2: threatening and you don't have a you know that pass

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Speaker 2: rush against Aaron Rodgers, they hit him twelve times. Twelve

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Speaker 2: times when you're forty two is like twenty times when

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Speaker 2: you're twenty two. So Rogers is at his last game,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure people are going to say the following, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you can't go out that way. What makes you think

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Speaker 2: he's going to be any better next year. It's same

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Speaker 2: thing with Travis Kelcey. Oh you can't go out this way.

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Speaker 2: We use this. We say this as if I'm going

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Speaker 2: to stay, and then you stay and you played well

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Speaker 2: and maybe your team wins, and then you go, I

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Speaker 2: can't go out this way, Yes you can. Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if he played again. And look, those

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Speaker 2: numbers weren't bad during the regular season. I think if

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Speaker 2: you said, and I think I did, say, if he

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Speaker 2: replicated what Russell Wilson did and you got, you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty five twenty six touchdowns and six or seven interceptions,

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Speaker 2: you play good defense, you're gonna make the playoffs, as

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Speaker 2: they always do. And that's kind of who they were.

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Speaker 2: But the more you look at it, they probably overachieved.

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Speaker 2: They're not a good team, but they somehow got in.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Ravens missing the kick they get in

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Speaker 2: and they went against a really good young defense. That's

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Speaker 2: a great defense that'll keep them in every game. It'd

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Speaker 2: be really I'd be really surprised if they would get

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Speaker 2: blown out. You know, CJ. Stroud played terrible. When you

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Speaker 2: have five fumbles lost a couple of them, you allow

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Speaker 2: the Steelers to stay in that game. And I think

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Speaker 2: all of us in the back of our minds kept thinking, man,

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Speaker 2: you're going to give Rogers a chance. You're gonna give

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Speaker 2: them a chance, and then all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 2: get a couple of defensive touchdowns and you get a

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Speaker 2: blowout there. So thirty to six the final, the Texans

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Speaker 2: rush for one hundred and sixty four yards, and that's

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Speaker 2: your difference. What he marks went for one to twelve.

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Speaker 2: That's the most by a rookie in a playoff game

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty, and Rodgers' final numbers one forty six,

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Speaker 2: the fewest passing yards of his twenty two playoff starts. Also,

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Speaker 2: that pick six the final pass, the first that he

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Speaker 2: has thrown in eight hundred and seven career postseason passing attempts.

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Speaker 2: So let me focus on Rogers right now, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll look at Mike Tomlin. Here is Aaron Rodgers ask

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Speaker 2: about what he's going to do next year?

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Speaker 4: And does that game affect your decision for what to

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Speaker 4: do next year to anyway?

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, I'm not going to make any emotional decisions. Disappointed,

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Speaker 5: you know, obviously such a fun year, you know, a

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Speaker 5: lot of adversity, but a lot a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: Been a great year, you know, overall, my life in

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Speaker 5: the last they last year, and this is you know,

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Speaker 5: a really good part of that coming here and being

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Speaker 5: part of this team. So it's disappointing to be sitting here.

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Speaker 5: What's season over?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not going to make a quick decision there

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Speaker 2: because he hasn't made quick decisions before this drags out.

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Speaker 2: But you wonder, if you're Pittsburgh, Let's say you're Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin and you come back, do you want Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: to come back? Now? I certainly get the feeling, and

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Speaker 2: I don't have any insight, any information other than what

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Speaker 2: you probably have available to you. And that is, if

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Speaker 2: Mike wants to come back, he can come back and

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Speaker 2: if he wants to take a year or two often

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Speaker 2: do TV that's going to be available. Aaron Rodgers, his

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Speaker 2: prospects aren't very good because if it's not Pittsburgh, who's

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Speaker 2: going to bring in Aaron Rodgers? Who will then be

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Speaker 2: forty three? And he did look forty three last night.

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Speaker 2: He looked even older than that. His lineman looked forty three.

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Speaker 2: But Aaron Rodgers, I don't see him doing TV. It

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Speaker 2: feels like he'll do He'll be Joe Rogan, He'll do

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Speaker 2: something like that and probably, you know, he has the

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Speaker 2: freedom to do that. He can then you know, have

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Speaker 2: an audience, have a platform, and probably make a ton

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Speaker 2: of money. As for Mike Tomlin, I see him doing

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Speaker 2: TV probably for a couple of years, and then you know,

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Speaker 2: and being around Tony Dungeye and some of these other

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Speaker 2: coaches when I was at the mother Ship, they really

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Speaker 2: needed it. They needed to almost disengage from all of that.

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Speaker 2: And then you're able to watch, You're able to you

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Speaker 2: get to enjoy, you get to see, you're watching football,

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Speaker 2: you're talking football, and you don't wake up on Monday

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Speaker 2: or Tuesday morning feeling like he does. And I'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Bill Kauer about that next hour of you know

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Speaker 2: that sort of disengage and then you kind of settle in.

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Speaker 2: And we've seen a lot of coaches who do that

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Speaker 2: and then they go back in and then you'll there's

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Speaker 2: going to be six or seven openings next year and

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Speaker 2: the year after that six or seven openings. The question

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Speaker 2: is does he want to coach again and if so where?

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Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't see him coaching another team

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Speaker 2: this next season other than if he does, it's it's Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: But I started to watch and just say, I know

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Speaker 2: he had a you know, he has a winning record,

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Speaker 2: he got into the playoffs. They're they're just not a

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Speaker 2: didn't feel like they could do anything where you go, wow,

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Speaker 2: can put some points up there, and the defense played

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Speaker 2: pretty well, but it feels like an old team and

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Speaker 2: maybe because you got Rogers, but it feels like your

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Speaker 2: window is small. Just to ask the Detroit Lions, because

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Speaker 2: we make this mistake, we go and they'll be back

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Speaker 2: next year. There is no guarantee of next year, and

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Speaker 2: the Lions are further removed from Super Bowl contention, and

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Speaker 2: they were healthy this year. There's no guarantee, Oh, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: will have a winning record next year. Okay, But as

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Speaker 2: if you said to a Steeler fan, hey, I'll give

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Speaker 2: win a playoff game, you're going to sign up for that?

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Speaker 2: And the answer is no, you're not. But how many

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Speaker 2: win playoff games. And that's where Pittsburgh is. Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: I think with that roster probably overachieved. Now, the division

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Speaker 2: wasn't very good because the Bengals weren't good, the Browns

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Speaker 2: But if you're the Steelers, do you want to bring

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Speaker 2: back Mike Tomlin? Do you hope that he decides to

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Speaker 2: take a TV job? Aaron Rodgers got a little frosty

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Speaker 2: on Mike Tomlin possibly being on the hot seat.

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Speaker 5: I mean this, this league has changed a lot in

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Speaker 5: my twenty one years. You know, when you hear conversation

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Speaker 5: of the world. Those just two that kind of have

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Speaker 5: played for And when I first got in the league,

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Speaker 5: there wouldn't be conversation about whether those guys were on

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Speaker 5: the hot seat, you know. But the way that the

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Speaker 5: league is covered now and the way that there's snap

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Speaker 5: decisions and validitly given to the you know, the Twitter

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Speaker 5: experts and all the experts on TV now you make

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Speaker 5: it seem like they know what the hell they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: To me, that's an absolute.

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Speaker 2: Joke, Okay. Is he blaming the so called experts or

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Speaker 2: the people who listen to the so called experts, because

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Speaker 2: we can say whatever we want if you get some

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Speaker 2: team president or GM going. You know, I was listening

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Speaker 2: to Dan Patrick, you know what, I'm thinking that ain't happening.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of experts out there eron you,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think any front office is going, uh wait,

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Speaker 2: what did they say? What did Ryan Clark say on

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Speaker 2: get up Damian Woody? What are they what should we do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Suton, right, And why would you compare guys like Ryan

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Speaker 4: Clark and Demian Woody or say like Teddy Bruski or

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Speaker 4: Jeff Saturday. Their opinions are the same as random people

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Speaker 4: on Twitter. Yeah, why would you like lump them all together?

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Speaker 4: They're they're former players, just like you're eventually going to be.

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Speaker 4: Why do not have the respect for them too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Look, you know, I understand Aaron's going to take a

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Speaker 2: be fair in who you're taking a shot at here,

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Speaker 2: Because if you're a front office and you're waiting to

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Speaker 2: listen to Dana Orlobsky and you're going to go, that's

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Speaker 2: the decision we're going to make. I'm going to put

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Speaker 2: that on the front office, not Dania Rolobski or if

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Speaker 2: you get somebody who's never played the game like me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: We keep linking them, but I think it's because they're

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Speaker 4: in such sim situations. With John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 4: And sometimes I don't know that you can make a

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Speaker 4: snap decision on a coach that's been there for twenty years.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know that nobody this year is just like,

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Speaker 4: whoa one bad year with Tomlin?

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Speaker 2: Better get him out of there.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I think that Harbaugh and Tomlin are in the

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Speaker 4: exact same situation in that sometimes it just runs its course.

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Speaker 4: It's been twenty years or almost twenty years, fifteen twenty years,

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Speaker 4: whatever it's been. You know, maybe we've just kind of

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Speaker 4: gone as far as we can and maybe you go

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Speaker 2: And it's happened down through history with coaches. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this isn't anything new. And he didn't just sit on

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Speaker 2: a hot seat. The seat the temperature was being raised

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Speaker 2: locally in Baltimore and Pittsburgh, not nationally. That the conversation

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Speaker 2: about Mike Tomlin locally is far different than nationally because

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Speaker 2: all of these former players and they're all saying the

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Speaker 2: same thing. Man, that's guy you want to play for,

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Speaker 2: a great job. Man, he always wins. Locally, they're going,

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Speaker 2: we haven't won a playoff game in ten years. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we have a five hundred or better record.

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Speaker 1: Yay.

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Speaker 2: And see Pittsburgh is always like they're never going to

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Speaker 2: be bad enough where they can get better because they're

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Speaker 2: kind of in the middle, Like you're not going to

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Speaker 2: be drafting in the top five, and that's part of

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Speaker 2: the problem. Like it's weird to say they got to

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Speaker 2: get worse to get better. But this happens with NBA

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Speaker 2: teams all the time. You get worse to get better,

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Speaker 2: Like the Spurs got bad, they got the number one

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Speaker 3: A tail of two halves. I think missed opportunities by

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Speaker 3: And I think we try to piece this together. I

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Speaker 3: those conversations will be had. It's a long standing relationship.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of respect that Leslie saw in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was going to bring up. You know,

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Speaker 3: It's like it's it's like a crash, Dan, You're going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Pittsburgh has been good enough to not be

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the attempt was made with Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 2: So I got to Bill Cower, the Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just I want to know what you thought

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I love coaching into this day, I've

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Speaker 3: at the very end, and I think it was a

433
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: case that did I love that team? Yeah, And it

434
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: was a team. We didn't go to playoffs, but Ben

435
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 3: also had the off season injury, they had the accident,

436
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: and we finished out six and two, and I knew

437
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: it was a good team, it was a good staff.

438
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: But I had to sit down and prioritize my life

439
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: from what I thought was important. And I had no

440
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 3: regrets to this day having walked away. Did I think

441
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 3: I would probably come back? I did, But the more

442
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 3: I got involved with this life I'm living right now,

443
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 3: the normalcy that was involved with my wife, who I

444
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: had met and had been there before. I've enjoyed this

445
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: platform and been on now at CBS for nineteen years

446
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: because I do have normalcy. I do have an off

447
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: season and I still love the game though, and I

448
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 3: did miss coaching, and I still to this day at

449
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: times I missed the strategizing of it. I talked to

450
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: a lot of coaches around there. There's nothing better than

451
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: the scheme up of blitz when you get a guy

452
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: running free, you know, or or Bucket's friends, and all

453
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: of a sudden, we were going five wives when nobody was

454
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: doing five wives in the Super Bowl against the Dallas

455
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: Cowboys because we're supposed to be a running team. I

456
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: love to do what you didn't expect, the illusion of

457
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: one thing in doing something else. That to me, with

458
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 3: football's all by, it's just to this day, I still

459
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: miss that part of it. That's why I think that's

460
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 3: what the It's the greatest game that's out there. And

461
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: so that being said, I love my life and I

462
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: understand and respect the hours that these coaches put in

463
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: the sacrifices that their families make as well, because it's

464
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 3: more than just you, it's your family. Because I think

465
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: your family are doing the football season becomes those guys

466
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: that you're seeing every day you walk in there, and

467
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 3: you're asking them to make the sacrife nice in the

468
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: commitment to what we're asking him to do. So it's

469
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 3: those wives that are at home, they're right raising their families,

470
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: and all of sudden you have to bun back into

471
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: that normalty degree of normalcy in the off season even

472
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: though there's not much of an off season these days

473
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: for coaches, So it's a very demanding job. It's a

474
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,239
Speaker 3: very absorbing job. I respect that, understand that, and at

475
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: the same time, it's a performance related job, and we

476
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: all know the consequences that go with that.

477
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Speaker 2: There's an opening on the NFL Today Scent. Could you

478
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: see Mike Tomlin joining you on the set next year?

479
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. Hey, listen, He's welcome. Mike and I

480
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: we could share a lot of stories, like I have

481
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: a lot of questions for him through his nineteen years

482
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 3: and we all early and talk that often. So I did.

483
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 3: I actually left him a beer and the refrigerator. So

484
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. If he does leave, he's got I

485
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: wonder if that beer is still there. I mean, he

486
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 3: might even still be. It's probably skunk by now. I'll

487
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 3: just tell the next guy. You might not want to

488
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: open it. It's kind of like just a memorable thing.

489
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: Just leave it there.

490
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Speaker 2: It might have been an Iron City.

491
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Speaker 3: It wasn't Iron City. Yeah, Actually, I got I got now,

492
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: I actually got a commemorative can I have to send

493
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 3: you one. It's got my face on it, so you know,

494
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I Actually, I really feel like I made

495
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: it in life. I got an Iron City beer can

496
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: with my commemorative camp with my face on a beer can.

497
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: What else can you do in life?

498
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Speaker 2: Man, that's really appealing to be drinking a beer with

499
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: your face staring right at me.

500
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Speaker 3: Coach, I'm gonna send you a six pack.

501
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: So, uh, if you're John Harbaugh, what's the best place?

502
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 6: Ah?

503
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the best place. There's

504
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: a lot of openings right now. I think for John,

505
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 3: he's going to go through it, and I think he

506
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 3: has to sit down to see where he's most comfortable

507
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 3: working with. You know, I look at the players. You

508
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: can look at quarterbacks, well, who has a quarterback and

509
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: who doesn't have a quarterback? But I look at John

510
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: like you've done this with multiple quarterbacks. It's more about

511
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: developing the team and building something that's got like you're

512
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: talking about longevity, that's got sustainability, and that to meekes

513
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: me able to get with the front office that you

514
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 3: can work with that you feel comfortable with. There's transparency,

515
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: there's also collaboration. There's also creativity and what you're trying

516
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: to do in terms of what you have on your roster,

517
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: who you want to bring in and a manner with

518
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: which you want to do it. So I'm sure you'll

519
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 3: have a choice of many, just like Kevin Stefanski, I

520
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: would think would have the choice of places to go

521
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: as well. These are very successful coaches that had success

522
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. They're not like the first

523
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 3: time head coaches. But there are a lot of really

524
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: good first time head coaches as well out there. So listen,

525
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: there's eight openings right now, and it's kind of like them.

526
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: What it's usually is, it's you know, I love seeing

527
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: young guys get getting opportunities for the first time, not

528
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 3: just have to be offensive coordinators. As a matter of fact,

529
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: these eight teams now Dan for these head coaches have

530
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: defensive backgrounds, okay, so just make sure leave the fact

531
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: we're not looking for the offensive.

532
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: Guru all the time.

533
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: So sometimes developing a young quarterback to best and you

534
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 3: do is have a very stout defense and a good

535
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: running game and let them come along and a very

536
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: nice posture with what you can do developed them along

537
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: the way and not ask me to do too much

538
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: too early.

539
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: You talked about raising two daughters. What were you like

540
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: when guys were three daughter, Oh, three daughters. Yeah, what

541
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: were you like when guys came over to date your daughters?

542
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: Well, I told them the same thing that I told

543
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: my daughters and nights I told my guys at the

544
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: work because I actually had the same theory three things,

545
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: choices and consequences. So you got my daughter, choices and consequences.

546
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: Just remember that. Okay, that's first and foremost. The people

547
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: you surround yourself with so I don't know, we're sure

548
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: where you guys are going tonight is the people you

549
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: surround yourself understand and recognize what you're walking into. Same

550
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: thing with players, same thing with coaches. And the last thing,

551
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 3: the most important thing is understand something nothing good happens

552
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: after midnight night. Expect her back here by midnight. So

553
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: there you go, those three things.

554
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: You treated these guys like they were your place in Pittsburgh.

555
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I like my I always said I

556
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 3: had three daughters at home, I had fifty three boys

557
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: at the work.

558
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 2: Did you write it on a chalkboard? Did you diagram anything?

559
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 8: No?

560
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: I just I was always very good with my expressions,

561
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: so they do. And I was not happy about the

562
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: pace because I wore my emotions on my sleeve. So

563
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: that was never a problem.

564
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: I remember asking Charles Barkley about that, you know, when

565
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: somebody was going to come by, and he said, if

566
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: I shoot the first one word will get around. Don't

567
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: come over here anymore. Not the greatest philosophy, but that's

568
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: Barkley's approach to this.

569
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Speaker 3: I think we get the idea.

570
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: Give me who you like in the NMC, who you

571
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 2: like in the AMC.

572
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: Now, you know, it's so funny. I always go back

573
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: to my R run in two thousand and five and

574
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: you start to look at some of the teams and

575
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm seeing two six seeds again. We were six seeds,

576
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: and I look at the Denver Brock Buffalo Bills. They

577
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: played the third seed Jacksonville. We beat the third Seattle

578
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: or Cincinnati. Our first round, the visional round, we had

579
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: to play a net best team in the AFC. That

580
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: was in Indianapolis Colts, who are fourteen to two. They're

581
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: playing the best team in the AFC and Denver. And

582
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: then we went on to play Denver in the championship

583
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: game and if they weren't that we would have to

584
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: go play the Tember two seed, who we did play to.

585
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: That would be New England, so in San Francisco kind

586
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: of the same thing. I think these two teams, these

587
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: wild card teams, I think arguably you could say I

588
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: think every one of them you could look at and

589
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: say Buffalo Josh Allen maybe puts his cape on San Francisco.

590
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: Right now, you're looking at a team that they're going

591
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: against the Seattle Seahawks the third time they meet divisional game,

592
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: so they know each other very very well, and Kyle

593
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: Shanian's got them playing very well. Last week. Robert Sali

594
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: is taking this no name defense and they're playing the

595
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: highest of levels. And then you look at Houston best

596
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: defense maybe left and the deep and the team going

597
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: up against the New England Patriots, and all of a sudden,

598
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: you got Drake may is only a second playoff game.

599
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: Then you may have the MVP Stafford going into Chicago.

600
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: So again, I think this weekend could match what I

601
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 3: thought was one of the most exciting wildcard weekends last weekend.

602
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: I think this league could be just as much even

603
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: more so.

604
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, aside from the Chargers Patriots, everything else

605
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: was crazy great.

606
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and last night, and I think last night was

607
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: another game that kind of got away in the second half.

608
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: So but I think, like you said, we have four

609
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: game winning drives. We sat there and watched Caleb Williams

610
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: do it. Then we saw Matthew Stafford do it. Then

611
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: we saw Josh Allen do it. Then we saw brock

612
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: perty do it. Fourth quarter game winning drives, the lead

613
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: changes that went back and forth in the course of

614
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: these games. That's what I'm saying this. The margin in

615
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: the National FOOTB League this year in the playoffs is

616
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: more here. We've been first seed, sixth seed, seventh seed,

617
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: they all right there, they're right there. I think any

618
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: crew on of these teams could get on a run.

619
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: As we can see right now, it can beat anybody

620
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 3: on any given Sunday.

621
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, you saw the sort of

622
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: handshake between Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur, and you know

623
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: he's embracing the rivalry. Did you have one of those

624
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: moments with another coach that you know you just didn't?

625
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: You did sort of a drive by with the handshake.

626
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: Do you ever see our Baltimore games?

627
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: So you and.

628
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: You and Billick, like I said, watch our Baltimore games.

629
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: But did you not like him or you didn't like

630
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: the Ravens.

631
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: They were all the same. To me, Dan, they were

632
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: all the same. One guy's leading us. I probably didn't

633
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: like him because he was leading them, Okay, So I

634
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: embraced Robberies. I don't think there was anything wrong with that.

635
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: I hope right now that Matt stays there, Ben stays there,

636
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: and it's cold and it's mad, and they don't even

637
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: shake next time. They just wave and salute each other.

638
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: And that's the way it should be. That's how robbers

639
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: are made, because you know what, when you're two good

640
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: teams fighting for that division, that makes those games special.

641
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: But are you okay with Billick today? If you ran

642
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: into Billock?

643
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, we're great today, okay? And that

644
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: I was great with him in the off season on

645
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: that particular day, I didn't like anybody even over there.

646
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: I knew Kevin Byrn was a pr guy. He was

647
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: a good friend of mine from Cleveland. On that particular day,

648
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: stay on your side of.

649
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 7: Field, stay one.

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Speaker 2: You're fired up again. I got you, I know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Robbers, there's nothing wrong with it. San Francisco, Seattle,

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Speaker 3: watch that game this week. Kyle and Mike McDonald. Let's

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Speaker 3: let's take we'll see it. They shall they shake after

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Speaker 3: this game?

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Speaker 2: All right, what are you going to do the rest

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Speaker 2: of the day.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Pubby watching tape, scheme up, give up

659
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Speaker 3: a blitzer too, somewhere along the way. I love this

660
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Speaker 3: time of the year. I'm gonna probably watch some of

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Speaker 3: these games. I'll watch Pittsburgh see what happened last night.

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Speaker 3: But you know, but I love it. I think this

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Speaker 3: is the greatest time of the year for playoffs. You

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Speaker 3: put all the hard work in, there's finality to it.

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Speaker 3: One less thing to just leave you this and I

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Speaker 3: do have this pet peete. The fourth downs, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: think the one thing we talk about it. I'm okay

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Speaker 3: with analytics, but fourth downs, when you don't go for it,

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Speaker 3: and you you go for it early in the game

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Speaker 3: and you don't make it, you lose momentum. And momentum

671
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Speaker 3: is one of those metrics that you can't quantify. Momentum

672
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Speaker 3: creates pressure. Okay, you create momentum, you put the pressure

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Speaker 3: on them every time. That's what momnum does. It creates pressure.

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Speaker 3: And trust me, playoff pressure is greater than regular season pressure.

675
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Speaker 3: So anytime I have a chance to take the points,

676
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Speaker 3: pin them down in there, make them go ninety yards

677
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Speaker 3: and punt the ball. I'm putting the pressure back on you.

678
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Speaker 3: So I think, to me, we stay focused, cold comic.

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Speaker 3: Let trust our special teams, trust our defense, trust our offense,

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Speaker 3: trust our kicker. Any chance I have to put pressure

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Speaker 3: on you, which is take momentum, control of the momentum,

682
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Speaker 3: because I just scored or I pined you, I'm going

683
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Speaker 3: to see I'm gonna seize it. And so that to

684
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Speaker 3: me is one of those things. Never lose a feel

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Speaker 3: for the game. I get the regular season because there's

686
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Speaker 3: always next week, and these things tend to even out.

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Speaker 3: They don't even out in the playoffs, this finality. And

688
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Speaker 3: to me, the biggest thing is that momentum is one

689
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Speaker 3: of those metrics you can't quantify, and playoff momentum is

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Speaker 3: greater than regular season momentum.

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Speaker 2: You take a laugh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm gonna watch the tape.

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Speaker 2: Take Thank you, coach, thank you, thank you, thank you,

694
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Speaker 2: thank you for leving me, thank you for thank you

695
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Speaker 2: for let me vent a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're I'm here. I'm here for you. A therapist. Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's build counter all of famer.

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702
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Speaker 2: Got a doubleheader on NBC and Peacock including the Spurs

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Speaker 2: and the Thunder. Reggie Miller will be on the call. Wait,

705
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Speaker 2: how often do the Spurs and Thunder play?

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Speaker 8: And they play one more time after this February fourth

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Speaker 8: in San Antonio, and I'm here for it. Look, I

708
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Speaker 8: know they've played well three games over the last two

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Speaker 8: to three weeks, but it has been much to watch

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Speaker 8: TV between these two and if you are listening to

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Speaker 8: both sides, they like to kind of downplay and saying, look,

712
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Speaker 8: it's not a rivalry, because I agree with them. A

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00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 8: rivalry really starts in the playoffs, like they have to

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Speaker 8: face one another in the playoffs and then continue to

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Speaker 8: play multiple times. But it feels like it's a playoff

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Speaker 8: type series because they've gone against each other three times

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Speaker 8: over the last two and a half weeks, with the

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Speaker 8: Spurs winning all three. So tonight again, I think even

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Speaker 8: though they're the champs, this means more to OKC and

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Speaker 8: they've had the best record all season, they got off

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Speaker 8: to the unbelievable start twenty four to one, but since then,

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Speaker 8: since the Spurs, they haven't played championship like basketball. So

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Speaker 8: tonight is, to me, in my opinion, a bigger game

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Speaker 8: for the champs because they kind of want to send

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Speaker 8: a message.

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Speaker 2: It's probably an obvious answer, but I'll ask it just

727
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Speaker 2: to get you on record if you were buying these

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Speaker 2: two stocks, San Antonio or OKC, which.

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Speaker 8: I'm still going with OKC because they're approving commodity. I've

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Speaker 8: seen what they've done under duress. I've seen what they've

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Speaker 8: done over a long stretch. I've seen what they've done

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Speaker 8: in game sevens, both against Denver and my beloved Pacers.

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Speaker 7: So I think there's more of a track record with

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Speaker 7: the Thunder.

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Speaker 8: As much as I love what the Spurs have done,

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Speaker 8: it's unproven. In case in point, just their last time

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Speaker 8: out on the road in Minnesota, you're up eighteen plus,

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Speaker 8: you're up thirteen with about three to four minutes ago,

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Speaker 8: and you lose the ballgame.

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Speaker 7: Those are games that you have to win, you should win.

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Speaker 8: You're the second best team in the Western Conference behind

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Speaker 8: these Thunder.

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Speaker 7: You've got to win games like that.

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Speaker 8: So if you want to be taken serious, you can't

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Speaker 8: let up on the gas and you got to finish.

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Speaker 7: Games like that.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers put a patch on their jerseys commemorating Lebron's

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Speaker 2: twenty third season. Why I have no idea.

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Speaker 7: That's odd.

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Speaker 8: I mean, maybe it's a pat on the back, or

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Speaker 8: maybe they're signifying this is it?

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Speaker 7: King?

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Speaker 2: Do you think it is?

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Speaker 7: I don't think so.

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Speaker 8: I don't the way he plays again, he's not the

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Speaker 8: same the wrong that we've seen four years ago, eight

757
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Speaker 8: years ago, ten years ago.

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Speaker 7: I get that.

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Speaker 8: But he is still a top thirty player perhaps, and

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Speaker 8: he can still help your team win. He's just not

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Speaker 8: the unquestioned number one, maybe number two on that team

762
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Speaker 8: if Austin Reeves is healthy. But I mean, that's a

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Speaker 8: nice paddle in the back by the Lakers to put

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Speaker 8: a patch on their jersey.

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Speaker 2: Why don't they put it on the back. Then it'll

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Speaker 2: be a patch on the back? Okay, Todd, are you

767
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Speaker 2: kidding me?

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Speaker 3: I like that a lot.

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Speaker 1: I was quietly got it in my head.

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Speaker 2: That was very clever, Reggie patch on the back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was just kind of like, Okay, we're commemorating twenty

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Speaker 2: three years but does he want to continue to play

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Speaker 2: this way? Like we always talk about do you want

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Speaker 2: to go out a certain way like Aaron Rodgers last

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Speaker 2: night or Travis Kelsching, How does Lebron want to go out?

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Speaker 7: Look?

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Speaker 8: I will say it like this, The greatest last game

778
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Speaker 8: that I ever saw was Kobe Bryant's when he dropped.

779
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Speaker 8: I believe it was sixty one versus the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 8: That was the best closing game I may have ever seen.

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Speaker 8: And every aging superstar wants to have a go out

782
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Speaker 8: game like that. Not that's saying that this is Lebron's

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Speaker 8: last season, but I think he wants to have an opportunity,

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Speaker 8: a shot at competing at one more championship.

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Speaker 7: Is this Lakers team built for that.

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Speaker 3: Time?

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Speaker 7: Will tell us that.

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Speaker 8: I think defensively they're not just they're not quite there yet,

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Speaker 8: And I think Lebron just wants another shot, another opportunity

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Speaker 8: to play for that ring.

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Speaker 7: But the way they're it's going to be very difficult

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Speaker 7: in the Western coffin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lakers are terrible defensively. You called out Luca.

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00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: If your best player can't play or doesn't want to

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00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: play defense, that doesn't bode well.

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Speaker 7: But I just can't.

797
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Speaker 8: He has what he does off the court is almost

798
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Speaker 8: as big as what he does on the court, and

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Speaker 8: he has so many connections to.

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Speaker 7: The Hollywood Arena.

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Speaker 8: I just can't see him leaving the Lakers, unless unless

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Speaker 8: maybe one of his old teams come calling, like the

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Speaker 8: Cavaliers and saying, look, we have all this talent here,

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Speaker 8: we just don't have a guy that knows how to

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Speaker 8: assemble the locker room and get these guys to play

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Speaker 8: the right way. Could I see Lebron going home to

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00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 8: Cleveland with Donovan Mitchell with Evan I don't know, possibly,

808
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 8: but that wouldn't be a bad team to go back

809
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 8: and try to win another championship with.

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Speaker 2: Can you see Lebron once the NBA does expansion and

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Speaker 2: if they put a team in Vegas, if you're the commissioner,

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Speaker 2: you kind of lean towards Lebron and an investment group

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Speaker 2: that that you would want to keep him in the NBA.

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Speaker 8: I think so why not? And especially because he wants

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Speaker 8: to be a part of it. I mean we kind

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Speaker 8: of saw that with Jordan in Charlotte right at one

817
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 8: point he was like half co owner there and then

818
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 8: eventually bought out. I believe it was Bob Johnson was

819
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Speaker 8: at the r RV bought out mister Johnson to be

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Speaker 8: the controlling interest of the Bobcats, Hornets, whatever you want

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Speaker 8: to call them. I think the same could be said

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Speaker 8: for Lebron. To have Lebron in his knowledge. Think about

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Speaker 8: this twenty three years. I mean, he's seen everything and

824
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Speaker 8: how the game has changed. Why wouldn't you want to

825
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 8: have his fingerprints on a team and building a team, bringing,

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Speaker 8: you know, especially to Vegas. Yeah, yeah, absolutely if I'm

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Speaker 8: the commissioner. But again, there will be a lot of

828
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Speaker 8: bidders for that. The way that these worst teams and

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Speaker 8: what they're going for, there'll be a lot of bitters.

830
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 8: But I would love to have Lebron James still a

831
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Speaker 8: part of this game after he retires.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller, the Hall of Famer, He's got

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Speaker 2: the Spurs and ok C Tonight at eight Eastern on

834
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Speaker 2: NBC and Peacock James Harden is now the ninth leading

835
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Speaker 2: scorer in the history of the NBA. Wow, But I

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Speaker 2: don't know how we're going to remember him. And what

837
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Speaker 2: I brought up is he did change the game with

838
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Speaker 2: the step back jumper that everybody said he's traveling, and

839
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Speaker 2: now everybody does it and it's apparently not traveling. What should.

840
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Speaker 7: They just get away with it?

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00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the commissioner told me that it was not traveling,

842
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Speaker 2: So I was taking just like they're not carrying the

843
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: basketball either. But I'm going to remember James Harden probably

844
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Speaker 2: more for the step back jumper than I am anything else.

845
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Speaker 2: And I don't know if I'm being fair to.

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Speaker 7: Look, that's a ton of points.

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Speaker 8: Congratulations if you are in the top ten, if you

848
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 8: were in the top twenty five of scoring in the NBA,

849
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Speaker 8: that's an unbelievable and hell of a career. But top ten,

850
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 8: we are talking about rooms and levels that only certain

851
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 8: people get to, and you've got to have number one

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00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 8: a game to get you there. But you've got to

853
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 8: be healthy, and you've got to have luck to get

854
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 8: you there, and you've got to be on successful teams

855
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 8: where you were the man where he came off the

856
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 8: bench for this Thunder team went to Hugh and really

857
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 8: made That's where he made his name. That's where he

858
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 8: became a bona fide superstar. And then he's he's had

859
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 8: trips elsewhere to Brooklyn and to Philadelphia and now he's

860
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 8: he's back home in Los Angeles. Shack was known for

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Speaker 8: power and brute force and all those points of being dominating. Look,

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00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 8: I think I'll remember James Harden number one. The step

863
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 8: back is great. I think a lot of people will

864
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Speaker 8: probably head roll because his playoff record is not great

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Speaker 8: and people will say he kind of shrank when the

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Speaker 8: lights got the brightest.

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Speaker 7: But he still has chapters to write. And that's the

868
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 7: beauty of this game is that he's not finished yet.

869
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 7: And the way the Clippers are starting to rebound.

870
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 8: Now, remember they got off to that six and twenty

871
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 8: one start, and now Kawhi and James Harden and Zubots

872
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 8: they're starting to figure it out and make a push

873
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 8: and can one of those scary teams at the bottom

874
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 8: of that Western Conference.

875
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 7: They would be a hard out.

876
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 8: I'm not saying they can win, but that's a hard

877
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 8: out to go against Kawhi and James Harden.

878
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: Would you rather have the career of Russell Westbrook Junior

879
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: the third or James Harden.

880
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 7: God, you can't have them. Both both are MVPs, both

881
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 7: are first ballot Hall of Famers.

882
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Nope, he got a pick, John.

883
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 7: How do you pick that they're almost one and the same.

884
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 8: I would go with I'm gonna go with the guy

885
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 8: who's in the top ten in scoring.

886
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 7: I would go with.

887
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: James Harden, but Russ is gonna be up there all

888
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: time stats too.

889
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 8: I mean trouble double two and a half years, you know, Avergine.

890
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 7: I mean that's almost unheard of.

891
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Rebounds and assist for guards.

892
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 7: I mean, look, you can't go wrong.

893
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: Who would you not as your two? Would you want

894
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 2: as your teammate.

895
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: The way.

896
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: You don't want Harden?

897
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 8: The way I would probably go with Russ.

898
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 7: As my team?

899
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 8: Yes, what about because you're not gonna find very many

900
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 8: guards that do with what Russ does, the sacrifice he

901
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 8: makes on his body when you're rebuilding like that, that's

902
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 8: it's a different gene.

903
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 7: It's a different mindset.

904
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: I had Bill Kower on last Hour and we were

905
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: talking about when guys came over to date his daughters,

906
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: his three daughters, and he treated them like they were

907
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: players on the Steelers, Like these are the things I

908
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: tell my players. This is what I'm gonna tell you

909
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: about date dating my daughter. Your kids are what nine

910
00:45:53,280 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: and five? Ah, Now you got a little bit of

911
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: time before you had a lot of.

912
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 7: Time, but you're scaring me.

913
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 8: What coming getting ready to come out your mouth because

914
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 8: I am not ready for it. And I know you've

915
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 8: got a house full of beautiful young ladies as well.

916
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 8: And I already told my wife two things. Have the

917
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 8: lawyers number on speed dial, and I'm not playing. I'm

918
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 8: serious about this. I look, I'm I'm just stop playing

919
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 8: when it comes to my girls. And nothing will ever

920
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 8: be good enough for them. That's just how I feel.

921
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 8: And any misstep Dad is stepping in. And if you

922
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 8: like it, I'm not playing with it. I just I'm

923
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 8: not have the lawyers number on speed doll.

924
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: You'll be better as you as they get older, you

925
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: trust I was right there with you, and then all

926
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: of a sudden you trust them, you raise them right,

927
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: and you you just you want them to make the

928
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: right decisions. That's the biggest thing. But it's it's.

929
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 8: I hope I'm laying are I hope I'm laying a

930
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 8: great foundation foundation for them.

931
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 7: Just see how I interact with mom and how we

932
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 7: treat me.

933
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: That's key.

934
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 8: That's big, But also too in today's age of all

935
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 8: these damn documentaries and scary it's just the world is

936
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 8: too volatile for me to handle right now. And I'm

937
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 8: just telling you Theodore for all you young boys, don't come.

938
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 8: Don't don't come half stepping because I am not playing.

939
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 8: I'm not playing. I've lived a great life. I'm saying.

940
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 7: I don't care about going into Poky. I don't care.

941
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna do some time. You're willing to do time.

942
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 2: I'm willing to do time.

943
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 7: I don't care.

944
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: You'll go. You'll be soft young.

945
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 7: Brothers that are willing to do the same.

946
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: I got you twenty sixth on the all time scoring list.

947
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 7: I'm just outside.

948
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 2: I know you're not gonna You're not gonna stay there, though.

949
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 7: Is there any way I can come back?

950
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: Well?

951
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 7: How many points them behind twenty five?

952
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: Marvin? Would you check? How how many.

953
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 7: Points them all behind twenty five? If it's if it's

954
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 7: a year's worth?

955
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, So you're pretty close to alex English. Oh,

956
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: you're at twenty five two seventy nine.

957
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 7: Alex English is at twenty five six thirteen. That is

958
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 7: that's that's like thirty thirty five games.

959
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin, that's a night at the garden for Regis. Oh,

960
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: it'd be a great story. If you came out of retirement.

961
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: That happened in Hey.

962
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 8: But but you know, I saw you talking earlier about

963
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers, and I hope this isn't it. You know,

964
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 8: you're talking about Lebron and the patch pats on the

965
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 8: back whatever. He doesn't want to go out. How last

966
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 8: night unfolded.

967
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no guarantee it's any better next year, right,

968
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: I know, but you.

969
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 7: Kind of want to script how it ends.

970
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: And did you script?

971
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 8: Ye? Yes, how I ended in my losses to the

972
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 8: Detroit Pistons in the playoffs. I couldn't have asked for

973
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 8: a better script. Thank you, Larry Brown. The timeouts so

974
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 8: the fans. It happened at home them defeating us. I

975
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 8: believe it was in game six or something, and the

976
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 8: extra the timeout by Carlisle, the extra time out by

977
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 8: Larry Brown, the Pistons walking over to our side of

978
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 8: the floor.

979
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 7: In the state.

980
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 8: Yes, it was unscripted, but it was scripted. Well that's

981
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 8: how it went out. I made the playoffs. I gave

982
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 8: everything I got. Last night was not Aaron Rodgers' best

983
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 8: because we've seen him at the very high of his game,

984
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 8: and I just hope this isn't it.

985
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: But did you have to retire?

986
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 7: I didn't have to retire.

987
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 8: Why the game was changing, it was getting younger and again.

988
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 8: I retired when I was thirty nine. Aaron Rodgers is

989
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 8: forty one, and some of those hits he was taking

990
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 8: I felt. I felt watching the game from the steakhouse,

991
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 8: I was like, you feel that when the older you get,

992
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 8: Every bumps and bruise you feel, and every day trying

993
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 8: to get up and go to practice and training camp,

994
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 8: it just takes a toll on your body the older

995
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 8: you get. So that's why I applaud James Harden, Lebron Russell,

996
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 8: these guys, Stephen Curry, these guys are getting long in

997
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 8: the tooth. And trust me, when I tell you this,

998
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 8: they feel it, you feel it.

999
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: It'll be a knock knock, knock, Hello, mister Miller, is

1000
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: your daughter here? And they're gonna be so nice and

1001
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna be polite. They're gonna say all the things

1002
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: that they think you want to hear.

1003
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 3: Yep.

1004
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 8: That's why I've been blessed to have done this game

1005
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 8: and save some money. That's what pi's are for. Trust me,

1006
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 8: they will have eyes on them. I don't play. I

1007
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 8: don't play when it comes to my girls. And the

1008
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 8: good thing that I had a boy first, and I've.

1009
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 7: Told him, don't be a funk. You better protect these

1010
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 7: girls because if you don't protect the girls, you and

1011
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 7: I are gonna have fun.

1012
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: But Cheryl protected, You didn't.

1013
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 7: That's right.

1014
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 8: How should be protects family and our two older brothers

1015
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 8: protected Cheryl.

1016
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 7: See the trickle down the fact that we have.

1017
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: Yet another Spurs thunder game tonight with reg Noah Eagle.

1018
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 2: Have fun tonight, good to talk about.

1019
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a good one. It's gonna be hot.

1020
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: That'll be uh tonight, It'll be okay. See that's an

1021
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: eight Easter or non NBC in Peacock