1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Headline of the week, We've got Darryl Hannah's take on 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: The Love Story that's airing right now on Hulu. Also, 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Rosanna Arquette comes to her defense. Have you watched Love Story? Oh? 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: I want to? So good? Everyone has told me why 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: am I not watching it? 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: It's so good? Alan and I think are at episode six. 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: We just finished the iconic fight seeing that they had 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: in Central Park. 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: Does Alan love it? 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Alan loves it? 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Okay? 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean you know I should take the little love 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: part out. He likes a lot, Okay. Preston, he's showing 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: it with me so a lot of times. It's like 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: my shows and then things I watch when Preston's home. 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: But if he would watch it, I would do it 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: first and foremost. Hey, Daryl Hannah, that's how I honestly 19 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: even heard about the shows. I saw her headline, okay, 20 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: and then I started watching the show. She condemned the 21 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: series Love Story and it's portrayler of her writing. The 22 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: choice to portray Hannah as irritating, self absorbed, why and 23 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: inappropriate was no accident, she said, is not even a 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: remotely accurate representation of my life, my conduct, or my 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: relationship with John. I have never used cocaine in my 26 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: life or hosted cocaine fueled parties. I have never pressured 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: anyone into marriage. I have never desecrated any family heirloom 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: or intruded upon anyone's private memorial. I have never planted 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: any story in the press. I never compared Jacqueline's death 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: to a dog's. These are not creative embellishments of personality. 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: These are ascertations about conduct, and they are false. And 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: then on top of that, Rosee Arquette is coming to 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Daryl Hanna's defense by saying the portrayal of her on 34 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: the streaming thing is bullshit. Her love with John F. 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior was real and some of the happiest times. 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy Junior had just asked his family, but 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: no one did. Loves Toory creator Connor Hines has been 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: candid about his decision to not interview anyone in the 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Kennedy family for the show. But I will say when 40 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: I was watching the show, they portrayed her so so 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: bad they did. They portrayed her as whiny, they portrayed 42 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: her as just this annoying actress who like wouldn't leave 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: him alone, and that was so needy if I was, 44 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: if I was her, I would be so upset given 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: that that wasn't what the relationship was, you know. And 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: it's wild to me to create this entire story, Like 47 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: how do we create an entire story and not interview 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: any of the family members and not have like real accounts, 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: Like I know, it's I think it's really hurtful that 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: they chose to do that and then didn't tell Darryl, Like, 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: here's the thing, because in one of the interviews that 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: I read too, she's like, listen, I get it. You 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: have to make John and Caroline's love story so beautiful 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: that you have to have the other arc character. But 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm a living character and I'm still alive, 56 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: and I don't deserve to basically have this be the 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: storyline and then people believing this is what it was. 58 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: And that's where I think is really sad, and I 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: wish the creator would have had a little bit more 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: heart to go say a heart, but I'm saying a 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: little bit more empathy or Darryl and going, hey, this 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: is why we had to do this, you know, as 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: an actress. There needs to be this sure b storyline 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: that is going to make this a storyline stronger. But 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, right something, Yeah, because it's not fair. This 66 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: is her real, real life, and it's a personal attack. 67 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: It's not a character attacks, not about any her Splash 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: characters that you know playing a Mermaid or any of 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: the characters she played. This is a personal attack on her. 70 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: That's where I don't think it's cool. That's where I 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: wish the creator would have said something to her or 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: had a conversation because I get they say in the 73 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: beginning these things might be protrud you know, taken out 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: of context or whatever. However they say it to cover 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: their their ass on it. But I still think it's 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: not cool. 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: So I actually met Gabby Patito's parents and was meeting 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: with creators of other documentaries. They were saying that they 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to have There is no they don't 80 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: need to chat with the families. They don't need to 81 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: have permission from the families to be able to create 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: these huge docuseries that go number one on Netflix, and 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: all of this inaccuracy that happens can just be It's 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: just a free for all like her parents didn't benefit 85 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: from that at all, like monetarily, and that's just wild 86 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: to me, Like to have someone's whole character. I mean, 87 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: obviously it's very different, a very different situation, but just 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: thirty thousand feet like, these are people's real lives, These 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: are people's loved ones. I mean, the way she felt 90 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: about him, and to know what she knows and to 91 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: be in love and to have this like real feelings 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: and real relationship and to just watch it, you know, 93 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: spread like wildfire in the opposite direction that I just 94 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: can't imagine how defeating that is. 95 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, I get if it was not a 96 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: real story, and that's right also, but this is a 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: real story story, and honestly one that I didn't know, 98 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I knew obviously about you know John 99 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: and you know, the him being married and those, but 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: I it was in our ninety in the nineties, so 101 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I wasn't following it. No, I just remember 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: being like, beautiful couple, he's the son of you know, 103 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: all these things. But I didn't know that he was 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: dating Darryl Hannah. Again, I was I think I was 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: too young to be following that love story, So I 106 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: didn't really know much, so I am taking this on 107 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: as Okay, what maybe the truth of the truth is yeah. 108 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: To the story. 109 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: So that part I just feel is I think she 110 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: has every right to be upset. 111 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: I just can't imagine and when it's something so tender 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: and so important too as well, she lost someone that 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: she loved, Yeah, and then to have it portrayed like 114 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: that is But again I understand the movie making side 115 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: of it. 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: Of course, it's like you don't want them to for 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Darryl and this you want him to be with Caroline. 118 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: But our last story, that would have been a fun 119 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: twist too. What rooting for Darryl. Yeah, but if that's 120 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: just not I know how to have good TV. He 121 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: doesn't make good TV and that's why we're in this situation. 122 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I would be I love the series that 123 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: I really do, But I do think it's I think 124 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: there should have been a cover. I think there always 125 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: would be a conversation beforehand about reed. Like shit, I 126 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: even writing stuff about my ex in my book. It's like, hey, 127 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm obviously writing stories. Here are some of them. Would 128 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: you like to see them or would you like you know, 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: out of respect, or Hey, I'm writing this about you know, 130 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: so I think it's respectful thing to do to reach 131 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: out to people if you were going to talk about them. 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: Now what did he also say that? Like I talk 133 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: about the people that well in a but we're not 134 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: naming right, Like I think what's tricky about what we 135 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: do here and you and I KA talked about that 136 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: a lot, is like we want to share experiences because 137 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: we learn. The more that we the more that it's 138 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: like we're all in the same boats in a lot 139 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: of times. But like also tricky because it's easier google 140 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: to figure out the people that we might be talking about. 141 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: When you asked X about that, did he read? Did 142 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: he have any pushback? Would you have changed it if 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: he did have pushback? So I gave him the opportunity. 144 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: I said, listen, you know, obviously I'm writing a second 145 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: book because our book deal about trust one away. 146 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: Just the book deal so much. 147 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: So I said, you know, I want you What I 148 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: want you to know first and foremost is that this 149 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: isn't a I Hate Mike book. This is about my 150 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 1: year post divorce. But I do talk about the moment 151 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: you know that was the laundry room incident. I talk about, 152 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, my thoughts and feelings about that. I talk like, 153 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: there are things I didn't speak about to protect you, 154 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: mostly the kids, you know what I mean? And all 155 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: of that. Again, mostly kids, I said, because there if 156 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: there were certain things I put in there, he would 157 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: have fought me on. And also so again I had 158 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: to reflect. Do I want the kids to know that? 159 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: Sure? So yeah, I was. 160 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I was tasteful enough with the stories too. 161 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I always wanted to self reflect it on me. That 162 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: was the thing with any story that I talked about, 163 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: It is like, how could I have done better? So 164 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: I was like it was a more of a reflection 165 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: on me, agreed, instead of he's bad, It's why am 166 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: I repeating this power? 167 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: Did he push back? 168 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: He goes, I trust that you are saying what you're 169 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: saying about the stories, and that you wouldn't put in 170 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: what I would hope you wouldn't. And I said, okay, 171 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: think of big trust. Yeah, yeah, I would have read 172 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: every single page. Of course I would have too. Yeah. 173 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: And if he if he did push back, would you 174 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: have changed it? Yeah? 175 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: Okay, pieces, yeah, because there's still truth, there's still truth. Yeah. 176 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: But again I where I kind of had it and 177 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna sound bad, but where I had maybe 178 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: in the back pocket where things that he knew I 179 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: could put in. 180 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: I think he knew that too, which is probably why 181 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: I got the answer you did. 182 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have heard even more, but again I 183 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: have to always go forefront kids. Of course, there's something 184 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: that happened and I will say this that happened last 185 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: year that I had all the receipts about at all, 186 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: and I could have easily come on and he goes, 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: I have to be honest, hease. I was actually surprised 188 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: you didn't talk about on wind down, And I said, 189 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: you know what I said, what is your present now 190 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: is not my It's all just the past stuff. I go, 191 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: whatever you do now or what it's not, that's not 192 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: on me to talk about. And I'm not that person, 193 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: like do you know what I mean? Yes, I don't. 194 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: It's never been about that. It's not talking about like he's. 195 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: All I've ever talked about is past experiences when we 196 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: were in a marriage. 197 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: And how it affected you. Yeah, because that's what's tricky. 198 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm always cautious to even talk about an ex 199 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: here because he's a lovely person, like we didn't have 200 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: kids together, much easier, All of it is much different. 201 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: It's just that I know also that I have a 202 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: bigger platform to say what I want to say and 203 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: what my truth feels like to me than he would 204 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: have to say about his. And I'll just never do 205 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: that because I still respect I respect him enough and 206 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: I loved him enough, you know, and I want him 207 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: to have a really good, full life, like he's a 208 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: good person. Yeah, And it was one of those things 209 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: too where I was like, I'm like, I'm not the enemy, 210 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: Like I'm not an ugly person. And I think when 211 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: he when I have spoken about things in the past, 212 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: like he just took it as I was digging. I'm like, no, 213 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: that was just what we experience. What I experience and 214 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: how I'm trying to learn and grow and help and 215 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: the things that I would have shared that you're surprised 216 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: that I didn't share. How does that help? 217 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Like, what would be the reasoning for me to share? 218 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: It? 219 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: Might make me feel good to share it, but that 220 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: doesn't help anybody, No, And there's a point. Yeah, So 221 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: that's where I again, I go to when you do 222 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: share information, who is it affecting. 223 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's what's crazy about this is 224 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: that there's a whole series, and there's a whole show 225 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: and it's great, a lot of popularity, and that there's 226 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: a entire person, a real life person character that they've 227 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: based it off of, who had no input whatsoever and 228 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: no communication with them. 229 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: And Devil's advocate. I do see why. I'm just saying 230 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's right, but I see why. 231 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: I get it. 232 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: It made for a good story because I don't want 233 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: to choose. I don't want him to be with both people. 234 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: I want him to end up with Carolyn, who he 235 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: did Caroline, you know. Yeah, So I do get it. 236 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: It just it's unfair.