Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast has got that Dog?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's around the NFL.
Speaker 3: I am Dan Hands's heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 3: and I think I hope everybody had a nice weekend.
Speaker 3: Greg Mark, he's a Hollywood legend.
Speaker 1: You don't. He's a cinophile. You thought he would not
Speaker 1: see you. Second before we started, I heard the new
Speaker 1: Mission Impossible. Wasn't that great? Mark was like, I beg
Speaker 1: to differ because he sees them all.
Speaker 4: Well, you you said that you heard it was the
Speaker 4: worst one. I would disagree with that only because I
Speaker 4: can think of a few that I very much disliked.
Speaker 4: This one was that.
Speaker 2: It was all like about teamwork and being he was
Speaker 2: kind of corny compared to the last one.
Speaker 4: I think get pointed fun in itself, like in a
Speaker 4: way that was a.
Speaker 1: Little linking, a little self referential.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were we also talking about we both saw Oppenheimer.
Speaker 4: Right, I agree, like did it blow me off the earth?
Speaker 2: I liked.
Speaker 4: I saw it six am, to be honest, which was
Speaker 4: I've never done in a theater. I don't think.
Speaker 1: Were you tired?
Speaker 4: I thought like I got up super early and even
Speaker 4: went running to try to be like and drink some
Speaker 4: coffee to be like, I'm going to go into this
Speaker 4: thing feeling like it's midday, And it was like it
Speaker 4: was around six fifty three, and I'm like, I'm nodding
Speaker 4: off here, like I'm struggling to stay away.
Speaker 3: If the movie started at six, yeah, and you fall
Speaker 3: went running, Yeah, gim packed. What time did you pull
Speaker 3: on your gym shoes and hit the pave.
Speaker 4: Like before point thirty?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: The theaters across the street from where lived.
Speaker 1: So did you sleep? What do you mean did you
Speaker 1: go to sleep before the run?
Speaker 4: I tried to go previously. I went to sleep at
Speaker 4: like ten something at night. I tried to Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1: Well that's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it was an attempt to not try to
Speaker 4: go straight from bed to a theater and then just
Speaker 4: continue to sleep in a dark, cozy theater. Smart, So
Speaker 4: it was a battle. You saw it at nine easier, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'd assume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Other pop culture news, when we got so much to
Speaker 3: get to in the NFL. Of course, that's it is
Speaker 3: around the NFL. But today, in fact, it's gonna happen
Speaker 3: during today's taping. They have a raffle amongst NFL media
Speaker 3: employees to see Taylor Swift the Errors Tour next Tuesday
Speaker 3: right here at Sofi Stadium. And it is all anyone
Speaker 3: is talking about right now. I Mean, this whole building
Speaker 3: is on fire with like twenty six year olds that
Speaker 3: can't stop talking about will they get the tickets which
Speaker 3: are going for thousands of dollars on the secondary market.
Speaker 3: Let's bring in Sean Kelly behind the glass ere Shawnee,
Speaker 3: give us a temperature of the generation Z right now.
Speaker 5: Well, it's really hot, Dan, It's it's everybody is firing
Speaker 5: in all ballistics today. I'm just all the middle, like
Speaker 5: the twenty the mid twenties is just buzzing the office
Speaker 5: group chats on Slack or just going bonkers. Everybody wants
Speaker 5: these Tata tickets, don't I'm I'm in the isn't that
Speaker 5: her nickname?
Speaker 4: I'm just the way maybe coming through your the way
Speaker 4: that you did it.
Speaker 2: Also two tickets. There's got to be hundreds of people
Speaker 2: in this raft.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of people in the raffle.
Speaker 1: Aren't they. It's Swifties, right, Oh?
Speaker 6: Is it Swifties? I always thought that was their nickname.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I have good luck in raffles.
Speaker 5: I I'm not generally going for the tickets. I've already
Speaker 5: promised a coworker that the tickets would be theirs if
Speaker 5: I do win.
Speaker 2: So and I see Christy Stapleton, it is Christy.
Speaker 6: Stapleton behind me.
Speaker 5: Yes, she will be getting the tickets, but it's going
Speaker 5: to be an intense event. I'm assuming twelve pm for
Speaker 5: the drop. They just said Monday, so that's like a
Speaker 5: good middle of the day line.
Speaker 3: Can you be our official monitor of this if it
Speaker 3: happens during the show, coming with some breaking news.
Speaker 6: So it will be a breaking news.
Speaker 4: Sean Kelly came in here and told us he was
Speaker 4: doing this some thing, and Greg informed him logically like
Speaker 4: the you're probably not going to win, and Sean acknowledged
Speaker 4: that this was his quote. The odds are heavily stacked
Speaker 4: against me, so at least he's got a reality. But
Speaker 4: he's good at raffles.
Speaker 3: Apparently he's the rock party of this. You know, everyone
Speaker 3: sounding him out.
Speaker 2: Ok, if they can fill up the parking lot, the lines,
Speaker 2: whether she can match BTS, I would.
Speaker 1: Not doubt she's going to color swift right now.
Speaker 4: I'd resell them. I'd win it then resell them.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's allowed.
Speaker 6: You're not allowed to do that, are you in the raffle?
Speaker 4: I didn't even I don't have femal this computer.
Speaker 3: And it actually the show conflicts with the Hard Knocks
Speaker 3: premiere next week and the podcast I'll be doing with Colleen,
Speaker 3: So maybe my tickets would go up for grabs.
Speaker 6: What a wild time, Colleen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, excuse me, Christy, you're out though, because you kind
Speaker 3: of hinted you might poison me to get the tickets
Speaker 3: that I already have that I'm going with my wife
Speaker 3: and on Monday.
Speaker 2: So this was a long like brag, I'm already.
Speaker 6: Going, all right, all right, good stuff, all right, here
Speaker 6: we go?
Speaker 1: She did.
Speaker 3: She kind of hinted, Hey, if you were to get sick,
Speaker 3: I'll take your tickets.
Speaker 2: Is it too late to enter this raffle?
Speaker 1: Yes, you're out broke right. Uh. The NFL is really
Speaker 1: starting to hit up now. Boys. The pads are on.
Speaker 2: That was a big thing Monday throughout the league. The
Speaker 2: pads are on now for a few teams. They were
Speaker 2: on before that, the four or five teams before with it,
Speaker 2: but the pads are now everybody. Football is back.
Speaker 3: Now, it's back, right, well, pads are off, sure, until
Speaker 3: then there's a game this week, then it's back.
Speaker 2: Then it's football.
Speaker 4: But then then, really, then we realized the preseason is
Speaker 4: somewhat of a shaman, so then it's gonna be back later.
Speaker 2: Well actually, but also you put the pads on, but
Speaker 2: the way the rules are now, you can't do full tackling,
Speaker 2: full hitting for another few days.
Speaker 3: So that then it's back, and it's back sort of,
Speaker 3: and then when the preseason actually kicks off in earnest
Speaker 3: to me, that's when.
Speaker 1: Football is back.
Speaker 4: It's vaguely back at that point.
Speaker 3: Until Thursday, the week would opener, football's backing, but really
Speaker 3: it's the Sunday that follows.
Speaker 4: Well, it really doesn't even councel Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: That's when the season starts.
Speaker 3: Football's back, and really it really comes down to one
Speaker 3: game in the end, the super Bowl, and it's really.
Speaker 1: Dark.
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna share some whispers. Coming out of
Speaker 3: training camps across America is.
Speaker 1: Crazy. But for some news I kind of looked by
Speaker 1: a saying, if you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping,
Speaker 1: so hate away, and.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to the storyline around Sean Payton, one
Speaker 3: of the better kind of summer stories that ever has
Speaker 3: ever happened on this podcast. As we enter year eleven,
Speaker 3: I don't think there's got so many layers to it.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. It's wonderful.
Speaker 4: Well, we're so used to players going at each other,
Speaker 4: you know, online or in some form it's coaches. When
Speaker 4: it's coaches, it stands out and I find it delicious.
Speaker 3: And not for nothing. Sean Payton, your initial when you
Speaker 3: know I have to do some damage control. I thought
Speaker 3: I had my Fox hat on.
Speaker 4: You never said anything interesting on Fox that you cannot
Speaker 4: use that as an extrass Someone.
Speaker 3: Point out one thing Sean Payton said in his year
Speaker 3: on Fox that anyone ever talked about.
Speaker 4: Endless milk toast commentary.
Speaker 2: The only thing I remember trying to get a new
Speaker 2: job is like him wearing those like pandas you know,
Speaker 2: the dunks, like the sneakers that he wore. Every that
Speaker 2: was about all that anyone took away.
Speaker 3: And the goodbye tweet from Fox, which is like Sean Payton,
Speaker 3: thank you for everything you've done.
Speaker 1: It's like, what take eight million of our dollars?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Let's get to it, starting with obviously the big news
Speaker 3: that broke and yes we are undefeated here.
Speaker 1: This is just this is what we do.
Speaker 3: We record podcasts, and then major news happens immediately following
Speaker 3: the recording of said podcast. That happened on Thursday at
Speaker 3: Bengals practice, where Joe Burrow rolled out to his right
Speaker 3: pulled up with a calf issue was later diagnosed as
Speaker 3: a sprain, an injury that's expected to keep him out
Speaker 3: several weeks. So you're not going to see him in
Speaker 3: the preseason obviously. NFL Networks Mike Garafolo reports that week
Speaker 3: one quote should be realistic for Burrow. However, GREGI couple
Speaker 3: things here. Number one, this I believe is the fourth
Speaker 3: straight year Burrow's summer has been impacted either by the
Speaker 3: recovery of an injury or COVID or an occurrence of
Speaker 3: an injury connected me last year, right, it's never It's
Speaker 3: not an ideal situation obviously for Cincinnati, not one that
Speaker 3: they can't overcome. Of course, he had the app and
Speaker 3: app and Dick to meet deck to me last year
Speaker 3: and had his best year ever, Still not great. The
Speaker 3: other concern here, Greg, is the calf is one of
Speaker 3: those injuries where it could come back, and if you
Speaker 3: come back too soon and injured again, all of a sudden, everything's.
Speaker 1: Up in the air, right.
Speaker 2: I think of Kevin Durant, obviously a very different sport,
Speaker 2: but doing that and then tearing his achilles coming right
Speaker 2: soon off the cap straight and it can linger, it
Speaker 2: can come back and forth. It's disappointing. He was really
Speaker 2: excited Joe Burrow to have a camp and you can
Speaker 2: point out, yeah, he ended up having a great year
Speaker 2: last year, but he's tended and the Bengals have tended
Speaker 2: to start the year slowly. You remember that disastrous Week
Speaker 2: one game he had against the Steelers. They also lost
Speaker 2: Week two to the Cowboys, and he was trying to
Speaker 2: avoid that. The thing if you're a Bengals fan I
Speaker 2: think you are holding on to here is they're not
Speaker 2: making any move to bring in another quarterback. Trevor Simeon
Speaker 2: is they're backup. It might be Jake Browning. They they
Speaker 2: did sign a quarterback, I think a USFL guy read Senate.
Speaker 2: But if they were really worried he was gonna be
Speaker 2: out into the regular season, don't you got to give
Speaker 2: Old Teddy a call? Or Carson Wentz, like, we have
Speaker 2: some real players that can play quarterback here. The season's
Speaker 2: over if you're playing Jake Browning in a bunch of
Speaker 2: meaningful games. So I gotta think they are pretty confident
Speaker 2: he's back for a week one.
Speaker 4: That has to be the biggest bomb for Bengals fans,
Speaker 4: that exact thing that they're They're not. There's no panic.
Speaker 4: I thought even their social media account was being playful
Speaker 4: with the whole thing in the in the hours and
Speaker 4: days after. But you know, there was this moment because
Speaker 4: our Thursday show was about rivalries and that we dug
Speaker 4: into the past, but one we talked about was this
Speaker 4: like triumvirate of the Chiefs, the Bills, and the Bengals.
Speaker 4: And we're driving home as this news is breaking, and
Speaker 4: it's one of the few times that Twitter slash x
Speaker 4: is to me really valuable because you're just re refreshing
Speaker 4: over and over trying to find out what news is.
Speaker 4: But the news got softer and softer and softer about
Speaker 4: the injury itself. But there was a moment through where
Speaker 4: I'm just imagining, like, wait a minute, the AFC suddenly
Speaker 4: the Bengals are a non factor. Essentially, if for Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow is gone and it changes the way you think
Speaker 4: about the season. It's just a reminder that, like, you
Speaker 4: can talk about these teams month after month in the
Speaker 4: off season, but then now it's like we are going
Speaker 4: to start to we're gonna lose about twenty percent of
Speaker 4: the people that we spend our time talking about this season,
Speaker 4: and it's like the complexion of the AFC would have
Speaker 4: changed drastically. But I don't like half injury because you're right,
Speaker 4: if you tweak that thing, it's like can come back
Speaker 4: and knock you out for a month, more month and more.
Speaker 1: Football is a completely different sport than baseball.
Speaker 4: But yeah, in multiple ways.
Speaker 3: I would say that you still have to look at
Speaker 3: as a long year, right, And I would just hope
Speaker 3: that there's always this thing all players are and all
Speaker 3: teams are. They always circle week one for injuries, like, oh,
Speaker 3: he'll be okay for week one, but if there's any
Speaker 3: concern that he's not one hundred and ten percent ready, yes,
Speaker 3: I would say, you know, if you have to go
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks out Burrow to ensure that he
Speaker 3: and papas Achilles in October do it, We'll see man
Speaker 3: that would stick start.
Speaker 2: With a couple UH Division games Browns in Ravens. It
Speaker 2: does get me thinking, like I looked at this and
Speaker 2: there's some other quarterback situations around the league, like this
Speaker 2: CBA really does job veteran players. A guy's like a
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater, Carson Wentz. It's crazy that, like Jordan loves
Speaker 2: backup right now is a fifth round rookie no one liked,
Speaker 2: like Sean Clifford, Like Matthew Stafford's backup is is Stetson Bennett.
Speaker 2: They got no real backup in Cincinnati. Like a lot
Speaker 2: of teams out there just go so cheap on these
Speaker 2: on these rookie deals, where like in other sports, guys
Speaker 2: like Teddy Bridgewater and Carson Wentz. I'm not a huge
Speaker 2: Wentz fan, but it's like they can play, but the
Speaker 2: way the CBA is structured, it's like they these mid
Speaker 2: level veterans just get totally left out in the call.
Speaker 4: In some cases though, they're looking for the right landing
Speaker 4: spot and job too en roll because it's like Teddy
Speaker 4: Bridgewater's made a ton of money, he doesn't have to.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: In other sports, like high level backups get like ten
Speaker 2: million dollars a year. That's a quarterback position. They're not
Speaker 2: going to be getting more of that. I mean, it
Speaker 2: wasn't millions anyways.
Speaker 3: And the rookie wage scale in part put in as
Speaker 3: a benefit to the veterans though. Now those rookie contracts
Speaker 3: are so crazy.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it ended up helping the stars and crushing
Speaker 2: the middle class. Right, that's why since since then, those contracts,
Speaker 2: those rookie contracts are so valuable that there's a way
Speaker 2: higher percentage of rookies in the league, a way lower
Speaker 2: average age, the average career length is shorter. Like it's
Speaker 2: really helped out there. I don't know, it's just a
Speaker 2: random thought, just thinking.
Speaker 1: Like they signed another CBA after that.
Speaker 2: So now, yeah, the twenty eleven one, but have they
Speaker 2: signed another one since they have?
Speaker 4: Right, there was a new one created.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the players didn't get that tossed out. But
Speaker 3: you're right, that does seem to be in general, and
Speaker 3: you're seeing it with all the running back stuff that
Speaker 3: the players maybe didn't get the deal they want on
Speaker 3: it in retrospect when Robert Kraft.
Speaker 4: Was hugging Yeah, I think we're learning that now.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, the NFL networks Ian Rappaport reports that
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey underwent a full meniscus repair surgery. It's going
Speaker 3: to take him out of the picture until December. So
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, obviously when they acquired Ramsey mark they saw
Speaker 3: him as a lynchpin of that defense, a guy who's
Speaker 3: a future Hall of Famer potentially that they believed had
Speaker 3: elite years and maybe he'll come back in December and
Speaker 3: be elite and be a nice you know, jumpstart.
Speaker 1: But this is really bad news.
Speaker 3: It's a significant injury that requires a significant amount of mistime.
Speaker 4: It's a really stacked defense. When we were looking at it,
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of months ago, it's like it's
Speaker 4: hard to find a weakness. Injuries will create that. They
Speaker 4: went out and signed Eli Apple, Uh, not the worst
Speaker 4: signing there. I think they need some depth, but they've
Speaker 4: still got Xavier Howard cam Smith is a second year
Speaker 4: guy or actually a rookie, So I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think you've got Vic Fangio. I trust him to
Speaker 4: kind of maximize everyone. I kind of love the pairing
Speaker 4: of Mike McDaniel and mcfon gioe. But when you start
Speaker 4: losing guys like Ramsey, the only I guess the bright
Speaker 4: spot would be is he comes back and he's healthy
Speaker 4: in December. That might be perfect timing for like a push.
Speaker 1: Here is Mike McDaniel on the Jalen Ramsey surgery.
Speaker 7: I think the surgery went about as well as it
Speaker 7: could have, so.
Speaker 1: We related about that.
Speaker 7: And you know, in terms of where his mindset is
Speaker 7: at it, you couldn't. He's a self proclaimed alien, and
Speaker 7: you know he couldn't have a better.
Speaker 1: Mindset with which to attack this process.
Speaker 7: He's immediately tell me whatever the timeline is, and I'm
Speaker 7: gonna beat it by a month.
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting how his contract really maybe
Speaker 2: led to the path they took surgery wise, our guy raps,
Speaker 2: she pointed out, he got fully guaranteed salaries in twenty
Speaker 2: three and twenty four. I was critical that trade because
Speaker 2: they were acting like Ramsey got a lot out of it,
Speaker 2: and he really didn't. He didn't get a raise. He's
Speaker 2: kind of under a pretty i think, team friendly contract.
Speaker 2: But this was the positive was that he got his
Speaker 2: salaries guaranteed, and it wasn't hard to read between the
Speaker 2: lines that the team, or in a different scenario, might
Speaker 2: have preferred a smaller surgery, that he would have been
Speaker 2: returning in early in September, like mid September, that it
Speaker 2: would have been not a full repair of the meniscus.
Speaker 2: That was the initial reports, and then they said, well,
Speaker 2: they're going to see how it looks like and rhapsly
Speaker 2: all but said, look, if he was a free agent
Speaker 2: next year, he might be coming back on less of
Speaker 2: a complete surgery. And so it's interesting you talked about
Speaker 2: Mariota last week. It's kind of a similar situation here,
Speaker 2: except Ramsey's protected by a guaranteed salary in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: so he doesn't need to rush it. He wants to
Speaker 2: get all the way better. And I'm not that worried
Speaker 2: about the Dolphins. I think I think their secondary could
Speaker 2: be very good. I like Kate Cohu as the slot.
Speaker 2: I like Brandon Jones, Jovon Holland as the safety, z
Speaker 2: even Howard km Smith some people love him as a
Speaker 2: as a rookie. Like they're pretty deep at cornerback.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: In other news, you have Jonathan Taylor running back of
Speaker 3: the Colts, who has been outspoken about all the running
Speaker 3: back drama and the pay and he wants a new contract,
Speaker 3: and we talked about it last week that Jim Irsay,
Speaker 3: the owner of the Colts, has been outspoken about you know,
Speaker 3: the CBA and how it was structured and how owner
Speaker 3: or agents were not.
Speaker 1: Operating a good faith with this situation.
Speaker 3: This led to a what was said to be by
Speaker 3: beat reporters a dramatic moment where there's some type of
Speaker 3: luxury mobile like home or something.
Speaker 2: I think he's bought like a Jerry Jones. Okay, a
Speaker 2: lower level Jerry. He's got a new He's got the
Speaker 2: bus now.
Speaker 3: So there's an Ursay bus adjacent to the practice field
Speaker 3: and Taylor and Ursay late last week meeting it for
Speaker 3: an hour. They come out of that meeting didn't go
Speaker 3: so hot. I guess because Taylor, we learned, has asked
Speaker 3: for a trade. This then rolls into the next part
Speaker 3: of this storyline that Taylor reportedly a reported back pain
Speaker 3: during his pre training camp physical that was deemed to
Speaker 3: be an injury that was not sustained while playing for
Speaker 3: the Colts. The situation now has the team considering whether
Speaker 3: to place Taylor on the non football injury list, which
Speaker 3: could result in Indy with holding his salary Yike sets.
Speaker 3: According to Steven holder at ESPN, and then Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 3: hits back on Twitter or x and says, one never
Speaker 3: had back pain, two never reported back pain. Not sure
Speaker 3: whose sources are, but find new ones. And then just
Speaker 3: for fun, here is find new ones. Here is ersa
Speaker 3: talking about an increasingly big mess involving his best offensive player.
Speaker 8: I die tonight and Jonathan Taylor's the league. No one's
Speaker 8: gonna miss since the league goes on. I mean, you know,
Speaker 8: we know that the National Football rolls on. It doesn't
Speaker 8: matter who comes.
Speaker 9: And who goes. Yeah, you know, and it's the privilege
Speaker 9: to be part of it. And now's the time, you know,
Speaker 9: for us to do our work. It's now's the time
Speaker 9: as an organization. And you know players that are you know,
Speaker 9: twenty four to twenty five years old.
Speaker 8: Now's the time to seize the moment of greatness.
Speaker 2: Can you hit him with the Kyle Sanahan? We might
Speaker 2: not even be here on Sunday. I mean I would
Speaker 2: have I would miss you, Jim, I mean, don't you know?
Speaker 1: And I think he's talking about the big picture.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's technically correct. I mean there careful, the league good.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Jonathan Taylor loved hearing this. The funny thing
Speaker 2: was the timeline of this get back out that hid
Speaker 2: so that interview happened after they got off the bus,
Speaker 2: and that interview ers said, we're gonna keep it in house.
Speaker 2: What me and Jonathan talked about. It's going in a
Speaker 2: good direction. A great Twitter moment because fifteen minutes later,
Speaker 2: rahap Sheet then reports Taylor wants to trade, and then
Speaker 2: ers has to respond like and then Ersay responded after that, Uh,
Speaker 2: he's not going anywhere, like he's gonna be on this team.
Speaker 2: There's no way we're trading him, so.
Speaker 1: We're all gonna die. Thing came before or before trade demand, well,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: After the actual trade demand, but he tried to hide
Speaker 2: it from the public. He's like, we're not gonna talk
Speaker 2: about that publicly. We're not gonna say what happened between us.
Speaker 2: Ten minutes later it comes out Jonathan Taylor request.
Speaker 4: I love the earthy quote. I couldn't agree more. I mean,
Speaker 4: we would just keep rolling on no matter what happens
Speaker 4: in this situation. We're talking about it today, it'll be
Speaker 4: old news soon enough, they'll figure it out. I think
Speaker 4: if you're like, it's just another extension. I said on
Speaker 4: our last show that I'm the whole running back thing.
Speaker 4: I empathize with him vaguely, but like I'm starting to
Speaker 4: get tired of the whole situation. It is what it is.
Speaker 4: But like Jonathan Taylor, like you want to get traded,
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna need to find if this even where,
Speaker 4: if it even vaguely could happen, Like you need to
Speaker 4: get a team that sort of says we're a super
Speaker 4: Bowl window. We're not gonna You're not gonna get someone
Speaker 4: that for Jonathan Taylor and offer a massive extension. It's
Speaker 4: like you're a free agent after this year. Maybe we
Speaker 4: bring you in, we plug you in for one year
Speaker 4: and make a run of it. But that has to
Speaker 4: be a team that has an excellent offensive line, because
Speaker 4: if you look at last year what happened with the cults,
Speaker 4: like Jonathan Taylor is an all pro level running back
Speaker 4: not behind a bad offensive line. That offensive line needs
Speaker 4: to be patched together and be a better unit overall
Speaker 4: to actually get anything out of the running back situation.
Speaker 4: They also have Zach Moss who suffered a broken forum today.
Speaker 4: They're in a bad spot at that position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are, And I just I understand the they
Speaker 3: have empathy for the running backs. But again, Taylor, I
Speaker 3: don't know, and I don't like the way Ersay put that, like, hey,
Speaker 3: now's the time for these kids to be out there playing,
Speaker 3: because that's too reductive, and you understand why these players
Speaker 3: understand for the same reasons Ersay's saying, get out there
Speaker 3: and play because the window is short. That's why these
Speaker 3: guys are trying to get paid right now, because they
Speaker 3: know there's not a big payday coming five years from now.
Speaker 2: I think he's just mad at it, Boss. It might
Speaker 2: be a ran, a rare case where he would just
Speaker 2: rather play for another team even if he wasn't getting
Speaker 2: the contract, Because to your point, Mark, I don't think
Speaker 2: there's a single team in the NFL that would be
Speaker 2: willing to give up a decent draft pick and a
Speaker 2: good kind He's coming off an injured ear where he
Speaker 2: is sea great when he did play.
Speaker 3: And he we don't know this physical. Who knows what's
Speaker 3: going on with this physical. But if the ankle is
Speaker 3: a part of the red flag here, which it sounds
Speaker 3: like it, it's like am I going to give a
Speaker 3: long term, huge contract to a running back who was
Speaker 3: in someone else's building that suffered a serious injury to
Speaker 3: his ankle that's still not healed yet. I just think
Speaker 3: he's not being realistic. Here's no contract coming for this guy.
Speaker 3: Could you see it for anybody else?
Speaker 4: Could you see a team? I don't know, like you
Speaker 4: could think of someone like the Cowboys or something like, oh,
Speaker 4: we'll do this for a third round pick. And then
Speaker 4: it's like we've got, you know, like some teams something
Speaker 4: you got to pay him, right, but someone you.
Speaker 2: Don't know, maybe not, maybe they don't.
Speaker 4: It's a one year thing. And then yeah, I think
Speaker 4: to Jonathan Taylor's point, like he just wants out of
Speaker 4: this world of disrespect in Indianapolis. You get a one
Speaker 4: year situation on AOD on a good team, then you
Speaker 4: go out to free agency. It might be a better
Speaker 4: situation for him than trying to lobby for a contract
Speaker 4: he's not gonna get.
Speaker 2: Right now, Chris Ballard has to have the least amount
Speaker 2: of power of just about any GM out there, because
Speaker 2: he was quoted saying how important Jonathan Taylor was to
Speaker 2: this team not that long ago, how he did want
Speaker 2: him long term, and I think he was being truthful.
Speaker 2: And then you see these reports about them trying to
Speaker 2: put him on the NFI list, and the reason they
Speaker 2: would do that is because they wouldn't have to pay him,
Speaker 2: and that it seems like a threat. It seems like
Speaker 2: dirty pool. It seems like if you had to do
Speaker 2: some source guessing, it's probably coming from ownership, not from
Speaker 2: the front office, because I don't think the front office
Speaker 2: wants to make him any more mad. And so this
Speaker 2: could be a situation where the emotions are so hot
Speaker 2: that something does happen.
Speaker 3: We have this conversation a week or two ago. Oh
Speaker 3: what has a shook we I mentioned, just like what
Speaker 3: you know the cults like, you have an owner that's
Speaker 3: increasingly expressing, you know, how he feels in public and
Speaker 3: has more control than ever. It seems in terms of
Speaker 3: the football operations. That would have me shook as a
Speaker 3: Colts fan, because you want something collaborative, not just the
Speaker 3: owner pointing things out and saying this is how everything
Speaker 3: has to be.
Speaker 2: And you could say whatever you want about running backs.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor is vital to this team. Our our friend
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah pointed it out. He should like, he's got
Speaker 2: a lot of these good thoughts. He should start he
Speaker 2: could collect them together, do a podcast, a microphone, right,
Speaker 2: it's I it's a growing things. It's just not you know.
Speaker 1: How Jeremiah that's good.
Speaker 2: Uh. He pointed out, there's no explosive element to this offense.
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is all sorts of explosive. But Michael Pittman
Speaker 2: not the fastest guy in the world. Alec Pierce, that's
Speaker 2: not really his game. He's you know, he's gonna catch
Speaker 2: him jump balls. Josh Downs, that's not him. They don't
Speaker 2: have it at running back like Jonathan Taylor is their
Speaker 2: explosive guy.
Speaker 3: One last note, by the way, on the Colts Camp,
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson offore mentioned got a nose job?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 1: In other did what job?
Speaker 2: I mean you could call that our guy rap sheet
Speaker 2: said specifically it was not a nose job.
Speaker 4: But yes, it's something to do like septum, like corrected
Speaker 4: or something internally.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It wasn't reshaped. I mean sure, it
Speaker 2: wasn't a cosmetic surgery.
Speaker 4: I was thinking, wait till cam to get a nose job.
Speaker 3: I was saying, thinking how funny that term is that
Speaker 3: it's just everyone's uh nose job like nose job. It's
Speaker 3: just not funny. It is two funny words, but together, Yes,
Speaker 3: it is. Anthony Richardson got a nose job. That is
Speaker 3: not inaccurate.
Speaker 2: It's just not a nose job. It's not a cosmetics
Speaker 2: cosmetic surgery.
Speaker 1: It implies, but I didn't say it is.
Speaker 4: It is not accurate at all.
Speaker 3: If you asked the surgeon, oh Richardson, is he did
Speaker 3: you check out?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, earlier to nose job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what surgery, Like I fixed the.
Speaker 1: Casual surgeon follow up, Oh what what type of nose job?
Speaker 1: Septim correction.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Earth and I don't know what you're
Speaker 4: living in a different universe.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, Sean Payton, Nathaniel Hackett, Robert Salah, a bunch
Speaker 3: of players around the Jets.
Speaker 1: It's a big old stew of funkiness.
Speaker 3: After Peyton shot off to USA Today about how terrible
Speaker 3: Hackett and the Broncos coaching staff was last year, as
Speaker 3: I said, uh, Peyton then came out the next day
Speaker 3: when I don't know how another element of the story.
Speaker 3: How long has he been in this game? Did he
Speaker 3: not realize that this was going to be a major.
Speaker 1: Storm?
Speaker 3: Did he not see this coming? Or h maybe.
Speaker 4: You know when he gave the interview, You're in a
Speaker 4: bit of a little.
Speaker 1: More clear headed stay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He just was a little loose despite all the like
Speaker 2: the all the Denver reporters and nationally where they were like, hey,
Speaker 2: if Sean Payton does it, he has intention behind it.
Speaker 2: He has purpose to everything he does. Cut to the
Speaker 2: next Sean Payton's like, actually, I totally regret it. Why
Speaker 2: why did I do that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So you heard Robert sal obviously in the
Speaker 3: in the news drob how he.
Speaker 1: Addressed it a couple days ago.
Speaker 3: My favorite part was Claybond's reaction to that in real time,
Speaker 3: just burying his face in his hands.
Speaker 1: With cringe.
Speaker 3: But then Schrager was at Jets camp this weekend for
Speaker 3: Back Together.
Speaker 2: Weekend weekend NFL Network.
Speaker 3: Great job by everyone on the team and this game
Speaker 3: for us, well, we were supporters, Okay, I do support
Speaker 3: what they did.
Speaker 1: We were in the stands clapping, Yeah, I really did great.
Speaker 3: Here is Schrager teed up Rogers in a way that
Speaker 3: gave Rogers a chance to give a very kind of
Speaker 3: non descript answer.
Speaker 1: But Rogers was very descriptive in his responts.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I love Nathaniel Hackett, and those comments were very
Speaker 10: surprising for a coach to do that to another coach.
Speaker 10: My left frat goes deep. You know, we had some
Speaker 10: great years together in Green Bay, kept in touch, love
Speaker 10: him and his family. He's an incredible family man, incredible dad,
Speaker 10: and on the field I could say that. You know,
Speaker 10: he's arguably my favorite switch around in the NFL. Just
Speaker 10: his approach to it, how he makes it fun, how
Speaker 10: he cares about the guys, just how he goes about
Speaker 10: his business with respect, with leadership, with honesty, with integrity
Speaker 10: and pause. It made me feel bad that someone.
Speaker 1: Now the blowtorch comes out, yeah, all.
Speaker 10: Right, who's accomplished a lot in the league. Is that
Speaker 10: insecure that they have to take another man down to
Speaker 10: set themselves up for some sort of easy fall if
Speaker 10: it doesn't go well for that team this year. I
Speaker 10: thought it was way out of line, inappropriate, and I
Speaker 10: think he needs to keep my coach's names out of
Speaker 10: his mouth.
Speaker 1: That's my quarterback.
Speaker 4: Also, if you're Peter Schegger, who looks good in those
Speaker 4: sunglasses right there, you know, oh, I've just generated it's
Speaker 4: an absolute heat seeker of an interview.
Speaker 2: Nice job for NFL. Plus, that was on job plus,
Speaker 2: first they get us locked in to do content this
Speaker 2: season and then that big, big on fire.
Speaker 1: By the way, I love that. First of all, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a jentsman. I love that. I love Rogers being
Speaker 1: all fired up there.
Speaker 3: I also like, like, or what, like, what is Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers actually going to do if Sean Payton says something else?
Speaker 3: Is he going to punch him in the mouth? In
Speaker 3: Week five? Like that was? Was that a physical threat
Speaker 3: by Aaron Rodgers towards Sean Payton?
Speaker 1: I love it all. This story is ridiculous and beautiful.
Speaker 2: I thought of this quote that I often think of.
Speaker 2: It was by an author like Rachel cust Werd. She wrote, like,
Speaker 2: I thought, how often people betrayed themselves by what they
Speaker 2: notice in others? And to me, this was a game
Speaker 2: recognizes game who has purposefully managed the me in deceptive
Speaker 2: ways more over the last ten years than Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: and Sean Payton, Like these two guys are similar and
Speaker 2: Rogers like when he's saying that, how how you feel
Speaker 2: bad for a guy that he would be so insecure
Speaker 2: that he would bring down others in the process. You
Speaker 2: almost feel like it's like, oh, that's something Rogers hit
Speaker 2: on in therapy a couple of years ago when he
Speaker 2: was burying his management, and so like, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's wrong, and I think he's speaking from experience.
Speaker 3: What Peyton maybe maybe if you peel back the layer,
Speaker 3: maybe he was more just like as a way of
Speaker 3: saying he was disappointed the Peyton, the guy who's playing
Speaker 3: the game as long as he had, is in a
Speaker 3: little more cunning and was so surface level about it,
Speaker 3: rather than Rogers, who will do the backchannel route to
Speaker 3: try to destroy his enemies.
Speaker 4: I think part of it too, is because like when
Speaker 4: people would absolutely verbally flame like Urban Meyer, it's like
Speaker 4: Urban Meyer seems like an unlikable individual and like Nathaniel Hackett,
Speaker 4: Yes that was a botch job we all knew out
Speaker 4: of the gate. You know, you're a month into the
Speaker 4: season wondering how soon he might be fired. Uh, But
Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett has never been described as someone who is
Speaker 4: not like a warm, enjoyable guy. He's there's something about
Speaker 4: like I think the coach on coach hate is so rare,
Speaker 4: we don't see it that often. But I always thought
Speaker 4: what Sean Payton was trying to do and he did
Speaker 4: not do it elegantly at all, was reset Russell Wilson
Speaker 4: and reset Russell Wilson with the locker room and go
Speaker 4: out of his way to put no blame on Russell Wilson,
Speaker 4: which I think he deserves plenty of blame for last season,
Speaker 4: but to put it all somewhere else because the one
Speaker 4: thing we didn't talk about when we the first time
Speaker 4: around was that he flamed his own general manager.
Speaker 3: Right the point, because I thought about that after the fact.
Speaker 3: He's still the GM. Yeah, wait, what's his name? Kevin
Speaker 3: Saunders is still the GM, right.
Speaker 4: I mean so I think Peyton probably afterwards was thinking, yeah,
Speaker 4: Sean No, not Sevin Sanders, right, Sean Payton. Like, I
Speaker 4: think having to go apologize was the stoop. Why it's
Speaker 4: the worst part of it because it's like then you
Speaker 4: just look like you're you you bungled the whole thing.
Speaker 4: You're like, had you just stuck to it, I kind
Speaker 4: of would have been like Sean Payton's kind of ball
Speaker 4: and just doing what he wants to do. But instead,
Speaker 4: you know, when you have this thing two days later,
Speaker 4: we got to like come up with this fake apology.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it is fun because I think both
Speaker 2: of these got you know, Rogers is obviously gonna be
Speaker 2: in Canton one day. Sean Payton's gonna have like a
Speaker 2: case for it. So these aren't just like mid level
Speaker 2: guys taking shots at each other. I love That's why
Speaker 2: I got the story week five.
Speaker 3: And you might have missed the summer episode. Maybe people
Speaker 3: are coming back now. We decided collectively as a group,
Speaker 3: you're on the NFL podcast that because Sean Payton's there
Speaker 3: and George Peyton the general manager, it's too confusing, right,
Speaker 3: so we just changed George Peyton's name to Kevin Saunders
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 4: I think you're helping journalists everywhere too, because so the
Speaker 4: song and dance where you put their first names when
Speaker 4: you mentioned the boat in the same article.
Speaker 2: And I have mixed feelings that you circled back here
Speaker 2: because you want to reward the people who've been with
Speaker 2: right throughout the opposite. So you get it too, but understand,
Speaker 2: this is it. It's Kevin Saunders moving forward no more.
Speaker 3: Ten you up and to that point, people that come
Speaker 3: after me or either of my colleagues here in studio,
Speaker 3: on Twitter or elsewhere saying WHOA, we really butchered that
Speaker 3: he doesn't even know the GM's name. You will be
Speaker 3: flamed for it, right, Well, you know, keep Kevin Saunders's
Speaker 3: name out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: We actually have a way to prevent you from ever
Speaker 2: listening to the show again. We can we can geo
Speaker 2: block your ace, your podcast app of choice. That doesn't
Speaker 2: really help us to know that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a strategy that does of no service
Speaker 4: to our.
Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter and the Vikings make nice agreeing on a
Speaker 3: one year, twenty million dollar contract. Hunter Greg has been
Speaker 3: a difference maker for the Vikings, seventy one sacks sin
Speaker 3: centering the league in twenty fifteen three pro balls. There's
Speaker 3: a no tag clause here that gives him a chance
Speaker 3: to hit the open market and get a more lucrative deal.
Speaker 3: So you like to see this team and player working
Speaker 3: together for the common good. And geez, the Vikings need
Speaker 3: all the help they can get on that side of
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 2: I think it was so important. I think Brian Flores,
Speaker 2: they're really excited, like they really could improve so much
Speaker 2: on defense. But his defense, for instance in Miami, always
Speaker 2: has good pass rushers. I love what Quesciadopha Mensa did
Speaker 2: with this Vikings team. This offseason, and I think you
Speaker 2: can see it by how he handled Zadarias Smith and Hunter.
Speaker 2: They both wanted out. I think he did the right
Speaker 2: thing moving on with Zadarias Smith that just wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 2: They knew how important Hunter was and for once, like
Speaker 2: a team just gave a guy a raise like he
Speaker 2: was do only five and a half million. They decide
Speaker 2: to give him a big raise. They're recognizing how important
Speaker 2: he is. He can be a free agent after the year,
Speaker 2: and it's like great for both sides. I think that
Speaker 2: was probably their plan from the beginning. He let the
Speaker 2: player in this case Hunter calm down. It's a good
Speaker 2: job by Quessei.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have completely cleaned the books, and so I
Speaker 4: think this was a give Brian Flores a centerpiece and
Speaker 4: a chance. Because we can get into this a little
Speaker 4: bit late, but some of the whispers out of Vikings
Speaker 4: camp is that, you know, Flores is working with a
Speaker 4: lot of young players, but almost to a man, they
Speaker 4: seem genuinely excited about this Flora's scheme, about the contrast
Speaker 4: to what they were doing last year, the over complexity
Speaker 4: of last year's defense compared to what Floraes is setting
Speaker 4: them up to do so Hunter sits in the middle
Speaker 4: of all that. You still love Harrison Smith, but it's
Speaker 4: a lot, It's gonna be a big transition.
Speaker 3: You've got a lot of young Let's say the official
Speaker 3: team slogan of the twenty twenty three Vikings.
Speaker 1: We talked about it last week.
Speaker 4: Well, it was so effective that I've completely like happy
Speaker 4: trails at Donateel. Yes it will check you later at
Speaker 4: Donna Telly.
Speaker 3: Let's circle back to the Broncos real quick here tough
Speaker 3: tough news at a camp today where wide receiver Tim Patrick,
Speaker 3: who once not so long ago last summer was seen
Speaker 3: as maybe their number one wide receiver or a number
Speaker 3: two type guy with them, He's not going to be
Speaker 3: involved with the team for a second straight year. It
Speaker 3: sounds like because he suffered what is believed to be
Speaker 3: an a kill injury collapsed to the turf during a
Speaker 3: seven on seven drill. He missed all of last season
Speaker 3: after he tore his right acl in a non contact
Speaker 3: drill in August second So almost a year to the
Speaker 3: day I talked about mentioned my dad suffering an achilles injury.
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks back, about a month ago. It
Speaker 3: happened in front of me. It was not fun at all.
Speaker 3: But I know from learning more about it through my
Speaker 3: dad and his subsequent doctor visits, when the Achilles goes,
Speaker 3: it goes, you know.
Speaker 1: So even though we don't have.
Speaker 3: Confirmation right now, if they sit thinking on the field,
Speaker 3: they could tell right away. And that's terrible news. It's
Speaker 3: a tough injury for any athlete to come back from.
Speaker 4: They were talking about him, as you know, Some were
Speaker 4: saying he was the best football player in the receiver
Speaker 4: room this offseason. They were really excited hav him back.
Speaker 4: Obviously it was always underrated. I can't imagine because we
Speaker 4: don't with these guys vanish off the radar. We just
Speaker 4: move on with who's still available. But it's like Tim
Speaker 4: Patrick has gone through two years. He's about to go
Speaker 4: through two years of complete and total hell. Because I
Speaker 4: think the one thing you hear about I remember when
Speaker 4: when they featured Gronk on the Rehab Journey that you're
Speaker 4: just spending all this time alone. You're just alone. And like,
Speaker 4: if you're Tim Patrick, you know your dad doesn't have
Speaker 4: to go run a four three four forty a year
Speaker 4: from now.
Speaker 1: I actually did tell him he has to do that.
Speaker 4: Well, that would be remarkable. Yeah, and he might find
Speaker 4: a different line of work if he was able to
Speaker 4: do that. But I mean, Tim Patrick, you're wondering like
Speaker 4: it could take you two years or more to get
Speaker 4: back to where you are physically.
Speaker 2: I'm really glad he signed because he was an undrafted guy.
Speaker 2: He signed a pretty nice extension late in the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one season. Just well timed that he got his
Speaker 2: money before all this happened. It doesn't make you think
Speaker 2: if Courtland Sutton was going to be traded if someone
Speaker 2: I just thought Sutton was very much available. We heard
Speaker 2: Sutton and Judy was available, and it felt like Sutton
Speaker 2: was more available that at the end of this camp,
Speaker 2: if someone needed a receiver somewhere, there was no one
Speaker 2: more available than Courtland Sutton. Maybe maybe a little less available.
Speaker 2: Now they're still fairly deep at wide receiver. They've got
Speaker 2: a couple of young players, Marvin Mims brought in Callaway,
Speaker 2: but I would think now Sutton is much more likely
Speaker 2: to stay there.
Speaker 1: And finally, in the news from the two first and goal.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, touchdown.
Speaker 11: Sony Michelle his sixth touchdown in the postseason three against
Speaker 11: the Chargers two against the Chiefs. And now the first
Speaker 11: touchdown of Super Bowl fifty three.
Speaker 3: Super Bowl fifty three, a two yard touchdown, the only
Speaker 3: touchdown in that game, the worst super.
Speaker 2: Bowl, the greatest super Bowl ever.
Speaker 3: Thirteen to three Patriots over Rams, the final Tom Brady
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and it was yes Sony Michelle who had
Speaker 3: that lone touchdown in the game. The two time Super
Speaker 3: Bowl champion, he won another one with the Rams a.
Speaker 1: Couple of years back.
Speaker 3: He decided to retire on the opening weekend of training
Speaker 3: camp with the Rams.
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old. Four year college career.
Speaker 3: Georgia had those that run with the Patriots, and Sean
Speaker 3: McVay call Michael Michelle the epitome of a pro.
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty nine yards in that Chargers game
Speaker 2: in three touchdowns Division Round.
Speaker 1: The six touchdowns in that postseason, six.
Speaker 2: Touch up post season one hundred and thirteen yards against
Speaker 2: the Chiefs in that AFC Championship Classic, in a couple
Speaker 2: of touchdos, and a game winning Super Bowl touchdown, and
Speaker 2: no one remembers that. It's like Jeremy Shockey had a
Speaker 2: game winning Super Bowl touchdown with the Saints. I feel
Speaker 2: like no one ever remembers that one either. So that
Speaker 2: was a controversial pick in New England. Everyone wanted Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: That's a great sliding doors moment. Then again they got
Speaker 2: that sixth ring and with Sony Michelle, So I have
Speaker 2: a great I don't know if they would have done
Speaker 2: it without him.
Speaker 3: I have a great sports stock idea. Greg, I think
Speaker 3: you would like this. Maybe it's a little too esoteric.
Speaker 1: But I kind of like it.
Speaker 3: That Patriots run of two to eighteen, that is that
Speaker 3: kind of compass it one to eighteen, just about the
Speaker 3: running backs. Just there's so many different guys that just
Speaker 3: went in and out and all had amazing moments. I
Speaker 3: would watch fifteen minutes on what's his name, Jonas Gray,
Speaker 3: I do fifteen minutes on a Sunday night for a
Speaker 3: touchdown game and then missing his iPhone didn't go off
Speaker 3: the next morning, and he missed practice and never like
Speaker 3: played again for the team.
Speaker 1: Like la Garrett Blunt looking like Jim Brown, Dylon nowhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all these dudes, this is it not bad? Right?
Speaker 2: You know how our friend Jordan Rodrigue did the playmakers
Speaker 2: this offseason. That's gonna be That'll be yours. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be years next season.
Speaker 1: I'll pass this idea off. I don't need to be
Speaker 1: too hands on.
Speaker 4: You could got a producer with a.
Speaker 3: Patriots O one to eighteen breakdown, But Greg, if you
Speaker 3: want to take it, I'll just be ep.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Patriots could have drafted Nick Chubb, who was you know,
Speaker 4: drafted after Sony Michelle.
Speaker 2: But teammates in college.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's pasted on Nick Chubb and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're burying Lamar.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of where did you have Bill
Speaker 4: Belichick and your GM rankings?
Speaker 2: Well, there just was a lot of buzz there. It's
Speaker 2: with with Lamar back then. It is I can imagine.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine really like being an NFL veteran. You
Speaker 2: you show up to cam and you're just like, I
Speaker 2: can't do this. Maybe it's your body, maybe it's your mind.
Speaker 2: It happened to Eddie Goldman too for the Falcons. Again.
Speaker 2: This is actually the second time this happened that they
Speaker 2: thought he was going to be a part of their
Speaker 2: rotation and he just was like, I can't do it.
Speaker 4: Well, there's always nothing beats the Vonte Davis at halftime
Speaker 4: being like, yeah, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like doing this anymore.
Speaker 3: Good and you should know, Greg, it's good to we
Speaker 3: all get little bones thrown our way on this podcast.
Speaker 3: Every time a patriot retires that was connected that run,
Speaker 3: it finds the news rundown and it never gets shot
Speaker 3: down because we know you like it.
Speaker 2: I think in this case, you know we had for you,
Speaker 2: even gave.
Speaker 1: You that highlight.
Speaker 2: SNEAKYU, big moment in history.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll be right back with some whispers. Rose,
Speaker 1: welcome back.
Speaker 2: So gross to maybe do some live reads, maybe live whispers.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we get some female voices in the whisper.
Speaker 3: It just seems a little aggressively us us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a lot of us whispering in your
Speaker 4: which I think it would be unappealing. Ark, how about
Speaker 4: some don't need that.
Speaker 3: That one's good, Hey, stabledon, if you want my Taylor
Speaker 3: Swift ticket, can you give me a little whispers at
Speaker 3: some point throughout the segment? Just drop it in occasionally.
Speaker 3: Get that headset on. She hates this, That's why I
Speaker 3: like it. All right, it looks like she's gonna go
Speaker 3: along with it. All right, let's get into it. Whispers,
Speaker 3: What are we hearing what are we following? Beat reporters
Speaker 3: are filling out notebooks, writing writing dispatches from training camp
Speaker 3: where the pads are now on. Football has started its back.
Speaker 3: Start us out, Greg, We're gonna go around the horn
Speaker 3: a bunch of times. Here were things that we have
Speaker 3: called from our research. Okay, fireless research go.
Speaker 2: The most meaningful whispers are to me are players we
Speaker 2: didn't know about emerging into roles. And I think that's
Speaker 2: happening with an undrafted rookie named Eric Prince in oh
Speaker 2: YouTube City one of them, because there's always so many
Speaker 2: right now they have no but that was a good one.
Speaker 2: They haven't put on the pads and everything. But everyone
Speaker 2: there that we trust say he's popped so consistently and
Speaker 2: is playing so often with the starters that he's a
Speaker 2: little bit about like the Isaiah Pacheco of this year
Speaker 2: for that team, they certainly have some room at the
Speaker 2: running back position. And it makes me think of this
Speaker 2: Chiefs team in general. You think of them as this
Speaker 2: dynasty and they're getting back to the same place every year,
Speaker 2: but because of their set up with it, they really
Speaker 2: have like a stars and rookie contract kind of roster
Speaker 2: that there's a lot on the line, like Raci Rice,
Speaker 2: that they're rookie wide receivers having a chance to play
Speaker 2: with the first team. Their linebacker spot where they signed
Speaker 2: Drew Tranquil is definitely a little up for grabs and
Speaker 2: he might take some playing time race. So there's a
Speaker 2: lot of position battles there. But then Erik Prince is
Speaker 2: one that I think is going to get drafted in
Speaker 2: fantasy league.
Speaker 3: So's we just did five minutes on Sony Michelle and
Speaker 3: you took the one I was most excited about.
Speaker 2: That's why I took it first. Just felt very whisper.
Speaker 1: I think it is whisper. It's five on Michelle.
Speaker 3: I think it's notable that pads are just going on
Speaker 3: and beat writers like Adam Tecker, t Titcher and others
Speaker 3: are saying, well, he's an undrafted rookie, but he's already
Speaker 3: on this roster.
Speaker 1: He's made this team.
Speaker 3: Now just about is he going to be a special
Speaker 3: teams guy or is he going to really find a
Speaker 3: way in that running back room to make an impact?
Speaker 3: And you're right, I think that's part of what makes
Speaker 3: the Andy Reid side of things and this Chiefs dynasty
Speaker 3: in part so interesting is that it's not just collection
Speaker 3: of all stars. It's Mahomes, this great offensive mine and
Speaker 3: Reid and then Kelsey obviously got to put him in
Speaker 3: the mix. And then how they find and develop young
Speaker 3: players as satellites around these Hall of famers, And we'll
Speaker 3: see Maybe princes won't come up again on this show.
Speaker 1: That's no I think possible, but it could.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was reading about him too, and other
Speaker 4: players are emerging from the woodward to talk about how
Speaker 4: impressive he's been. And like, the one thing I love
Speaker 4: about Andy Reid because it's like, how do you avoid
Speaker 4: sort of wrote exhaustion. You've won the Super Bowl a
Speaker 4: couple of times, you keep coming back to do the
Speaker 4: same thing their training camp. The other was a feature
Speaker 4: on this on the Athletic by Nate Taylor that practices
Speaker 4: have been insane, that there have been fights three days in.
Speaker 2: A row, Kelsey every time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kelsey was in a fisticuffs with someone named DiCaprio bootle.
Speaker 4: So I love that, uh DiCaprio bootle at defensive back
Speaker 4: on Oh Yeah. So you're a lot of young players,
Speaker 4: a lot of stars and heated practices, and Reid is
Speaker 4: loving it. He's just been saying, he's been shouting edge
Speaker 4: edge edge. We're never We're never gonna sit down. And
Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs just find a way to reboot.
Speaker 3: And I know Kelsey rebootle, rebootle, apologize and said he
Speaker 3: has to control him up.
Speaker 1: Nah. I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a team that's had that much success fighting in
Speaker 3: training camp, they still got the fire.
Speaker 2: Shout out to uh Pete Sweeney over at Arrowhead Pride.
Speaker 2: We might might have to have him on if we
Speaker 2: want a Chiefs guess he has some They have some
Speaker 2: of the asked like recaps of any practice in the
Speaker 2: entire league, and there's so so many battles going out.
Speaker 2: I'm just seeing here on his timeline here one of
Speaker 2: their undrafted rookies that they were playing like as a
Speaker 2: starter in a lot of uh snaps. Nase Johnson sounds
Speaker 2: like he's suffered an ACL injury either Sunday or Monday.
Speaker 2: So that is disappointing.
Speaker 5: Whispers, whispers, that's not Christie, not at all.
Speaker 3: The counter opposite Sean it's past noon is do we
Speaker 3: have any updates on the Taylor swift front.
Speaker 5: No updates on the Tailor Swift front as of right
Speaker 5: now we've there's been inquiries waiting back. I think it
Speaker 5: might be an afternoon. I did say twelve is like
Speaker 5: a middle of the day, so I heard monday, So
Speaker 5: I'm going to start at twelve.
Speaker 2: You said twelve to us. That's being an important thing.
Speaker 2: If you're going to be talking to other journalists, accuracy
Speaker 2: is important. Oh yeah, that was just just make up
Speaker 2: a number.
Speaker 6: I just picked them at all of the day.
Speaker 3: So you threw out that middlehigh, but you just threw
Speaker 3: the first possible second that becomes afternoon, which is noon.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, I assume like in the middle of an average
Speaker 6: work day, right now, you.
Speaker 2: Do you do stand up, right, so like when you're
Speaker 2: doing a show, you don't just like say a time
Speaker 2: specifically and then it could be any time.
Speaker 4: Right, come at a stage in the middle of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I see me in the middle of the day up
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I never.
Speaker 6: Like X it was going to be on the nose.
Speaker 3: This entire episode has been built around the drawing happening
Speaker 3: five minutes ago.
Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, no, if that is what you thought,
Speaker 5: I apologize for my inaccuracy. This is why you're the
Speaker 5: journalist and I press.
Speaker 1: You've destroyed us Mark you all.
Speaker 4: I love the reports about emerging players, which we just did.
Speaker 4: I also think there's guys that we spent all off
Speaker 4: season wondering, like this guy still got it?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 4: This guy?
Speaker 1: Is this gonna work?
Speaker 4: And so I go to Giants camp where Dan Athletic
Speaker 4: talked about the fact that Darren Waller, who I was like,
Speaker 4: he might be washed. Maybe this was a nice idea
Speaker 4: nice trade, but like he has been uncoverable all over
Speaker 4: the place, frying their defensive backs to the point where
Speaker 4: like rookie Deontay Banks, who they have a you know,
Speaker 4: they invested a lot in, is having a very uncomfortable
Speaker 4: rough start to camp, largely because of Waller, but other
Speaker 4: reasons too. But I think that's a huge, huge element
Speaker 4: for the Giants and Brian Dable. If you get this
Speaker 4: version that the Raiders basically gave away. It doesn't look
Speaker 4: good for the Raiders to give this player away after
Speaker 4: you know, injuries, everything he went through. But if you
Speaker 4: get the best version of them, it's great for Daniel Jones,
Speaker 4: it's great for Sakuon Barkley, It's great for an offense
Speaker 4: that kind of quietly has like twenty two wide receivers too.
Speaker 4: Right now, they kind of remind me of the Bills,
Speaker 4: where they just have done everything they can when they
Speaker 4: had Josh Allen to reload and add guys and Waller
Speaker 4: working out would be huge for the Giants, it.
Speaker 1: Would be huge.
Speaker 3: There's a little, to me, a little trope alert element
Speaker 3: to this that new player with Pro Bowl pedigree shows
Speaker 3: up and you know, moves around well, and the beat
Speaker 3: writers are all kind of smitten by it.
Speaker 4: Right, But there's a trope alert sort of attached to
Speaker 4: every one of these things, right some degree.
Speaker 1: But that I guess just with with Waller.
Speaker 2: Mark didn't appreciate that.
Speaker 1: No, but it's not personal. It was not.
Speaker 2: But he's he hasn't been healthy in a while, so
Speaker 2: I didn't buy that notable that he has not healthy
Speaker 2: looking good on in practice for a lot.
Speaker 3: You know what triggers me is moving all over the
Speaker 3: field like whatever, of course he's gonna be but this
Speaker 3: was the exercise, is gonna line up here, maybe he'll
Speaker 3: be in motion on this play.
Speaker 1: That doesn't do anything for me. He's moving all over
Speaker 1: the place.
Speaker 4: Well, we've said that the season doesn't even start till
Speaker 4: the Superbeason. Have any any meaning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a little I have some doubts about
Speaker 3: the Waller Giants thing, but maybe that's it's an extend
Speaker 3: of my criticism here of the reporting.
Speaker 2: I don't know, get him to weak one. I I
Speaker 2: think he is one of the most important people on
Speaker 2: that roster. If he if he could pop, that's huge and.
Speaker 3: Other the forty nine ers quarterbacks going ham the Niners offense.
Speaker 3: This was a report from Nick Wagoner. ESPN had its
Speaker 3: best day of camp. This is over the weekend. Trey
Speaker 3: Lance twelve of sixteen and first team reps five of
Speaker 3: eight with a touchdown pass and a touchdown run and
Speaker 3: red zone work. Sam Darnold who took the other four
Speaker 3: first team reps and twelve with the second unit eight
Speaker 3: of ten with a pair of touchdown passes to Brandon
Speaker 3: Ayuk in the red zone. We talked about last week
Speaker 3: that brock party has been cleared and seems to be
Speaker 3: on target for Week one. I guess my takeaway based
Speaker 3: on this is yes, usually you hear, especially this time camp,
Speaker 3: defense is are ahead of offense. I kind of think
Speaker 3: I have no concerns about the Niners because I think
Speaker 3: the team is kind of quarterback proof, which is such
Speaker 3: a obviously highest compment you could give to Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 3: for what he's good at.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to move the ball and score points.
Speaker 3: Really no matter whose quarterback, I think Donald would do
Speaker 3: well in this offense. Trey Lance is such a mystery,
Speaker 3: but I would think that Shanahan would put him in
Speaker 3: the best position. And we saw that Purdy has the
Speaker 3: to move this team and be professional as well.
Speaker 1: Niners gonna be good.
Speaker 4: I want to add to your report in the newsroom
Speaker 4: this morning, not my report, well, your your entry reporting
Speaker 4: on the report, your yes, your review of the report.
Speaker 4: Omar Ruiz in the newsroom today and I asked, you know,
Speaker 4: like where you've been to a couple of camps. He's
Speaker 4: been to Raiders Arizona was like one hundred and fourteen degrees.
Speaker 4: You're wearing makeup and it's running into your hair. It's
Speaker 4: terrible situation. But went up to San Francisco and I
Speaker 4: was like, did anything like stand out about any player
Speaker 4: you saw at any camp? And like, I know this
Speaker 4: is a player that we've talked about before. Is like
Speaker 4: this is the year he becomes a superstar. But there
Speaker 4: are like superstar vibes around Brandon Ayuk that like what
Speaker 4: he's been doing up there, and he mentioned Sam Donald
Speaker 4: like whipped this like fifteen yard bam Donald right into
Speaker 4: the end zone and like this player emerged out of nowhere,
Speaker 4: high into the sky and it hit him right in
Speaker 4: like the hands, and it was like Brandon Ayuk jumping
Speaker 4: like twice as heidemas. So everything is going right for him.
Speaker 4: And I'm with you that the Niners just feel like
Speaker 4: they're picking up they left off on offense.
Speaker 3: I think it was on road a World I think
Speaker 3: had a passing reference to Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: Does the next Steve Young? I mean Shanahan ste That's.
Speaker 2: What Shanahan said. Couldn't he be the next Steve Young?
Speaker 2: And that quote to me was like the end of
Speaker 2: Trey Lance's career in San Francis. Yeah, I was just like,
Speaker 2: I guess it's obvious because even just the way they're
Speaker 2: cutting up the reps, Perty is healthy enough that he's
Speaker 2: taking off one of every three days, but otherwise he's
Speaker 2: getting twice as many reps as those two guys combined.
Speaker 2: So it's really pretty seem But the fact that Donald,
Speaker 2: who just joined the team on like a one year,
Speaker 2: three million dollar contract, is splitting reps with the guy
Speaker 2: who was the unquestioned starter, who they gave up three
Speaker 2: first round draft picks just a year ago at this time,
Speaker 2: and who was getting all there. The fact that Donald
Speaker 2: is splitting with him already, like they're not even giving
Speaker 2: Lance a chance. I do wonder if Lance is on
Speaker 2: this team even in Week one.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think they want to trade him, if anything,
Speaker 4: feature him in the preseason and.
Speaker 2: Ship him out of us. Another one, Greg, Okay, let's
Speaker 2: go negative. It's hard to be get negative first.
Speaker 1: I don't usually do that.
Speaker 2: Week No, I got a lot Jets. I actually am
Speaker 2: concerned about their tackle situation, their offensive line, Mark Dance
Speaker 2: taking this off? What am I taking it from you?
Speaker 2: He took my second pick to Actually I should have.
Speaker 2: I could bury this one. You want it's too late
Speaker 2: you started, you started, Yeah, that would be answering. Okay.
Speaker 2: McKay becked in, that's not looking good.
Speaker 1: That was fine.
Speaker 2: It hasn't really been healthy, not good at all. Dwayne
Speaker 2: Brown turning thirty nine this year, I think and was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: last year, it's still hurt. Still on the pup list,
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's got older. They drafted tipman
Speaker 2: second round, uh center. But the idea is like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's that's like maybe three of those five spots for
Speaker 2: now he's second or third team. Who knows that that's
Speaker 2: not a huge concern. It takes rookies some time to
Speaker 2: get lifted. But if Billy Turner and and who is it,
Speaker 2: Max Mitchell are your tackles and they're struggling every day
Speaker 2: and practice against some good players, that's that's the huge
Speaker 2: fly in the ointment. It's more than a fly, it's
Speaker 2: a cockaroach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's we talked about it, Greg when we talk
Speaker 3: about what are the training camp early storylines to keep
Speaker 3: an eye on. Yeah, I mentioned the O line and
Speaker 3: this is so far for everything that's going great around
Speaker 3: the Jets, and it's basically everything else. This is the
Speaker 3: one unit of the team that leaves them very vulnerable.
Speaker 3: Becked In sounds like he's a mess. I gotta say
Speaker 3: they had they and I.
Speaker 1: Thought he was he all he lost a ton of ways.
Speaker 3: But he hasn't played in essentially two years, and they
Speaker 3: finally kind of start working him back in to training
Speaker 3: camp and they have to shut him down. On Wednesday,
Speaker 3: Salas said that his rehab knee wasn't up for it.
Speaker 3: And this comes when you've heard you knows things I've
Speaker 3: heard from people that know I like the Jets, will
Speaker 3: tell me about his you know, his dedication and how
Speaker 3: you know his level football isn't there. And it's yes,
Speaker 3: he dropped a weight, but when he learned that he's
Speaker 3: basically in a competition to be the right tackle and
Speaker 3: he's tweeting a couple like a month ago that he's
Speaker 3: a left tackle, Like, is his head even in this.
Speaker 1: Is he is he about football?
Speaker 2: Or is he not playing them with the starters even
Speaker 2: when he is no.
Speaker 3: So I think everything around back then, both physically and mentally,
Speaker 3: is a huge question mark the second round center, it
Speaker 3: sounds like, yeah, like you said, he's a little behind,
Speaker 3: and yeah, you do want to see Dwayne Brown get
Speaker 3: out there now. Are they being extra careful with Brown
Speaker 3: coming off surgery in his late thirties, Sure, but you
Speaker 3: also want to have reps as a unit together when yes,
Speaker 3: you are protecting a quarterback who's nearly forty years old himself. Hamana,
Speaker 3: It's the only thing I think if this offensive line
Speaker 3: is good, everything else sparring.
Speaker 1: A lot of injuries or whatever.
Speaker 3: The Jets will be a great team, but the line
Speaker 3: has the ability to really cause havoc and dal McCook
Speaker 3: by the way, it seems like it's gonna happen, but
Speaker 3: we don't have it officially yet.
Speaker 4: Man, he's he was on Good Morning Football and like
Speaker 4: he really sounded like there was a connection there.
Speaker 2: There was like there on Sunday just watching practice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it would be weird at this point if he does,
Speaker 2: he'd be really weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's like signing autographs and there's three thousand fans chanting
Speaker 3: his name.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, you're up Buffalo.
Speaker 3: I like this because that's good.
Speaker 1: Eric, that was a good one. Good.
Speaker 2: I was live.
Speaker 3: Was I'm emitting out the whole bench. I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: everybody doing. Christy has disappeared, so I think she.
Speaker 12: Sees it coming down the pipe, so she she doesn't
Speaker 12: like to do not in the room as the show
Speaker 12: is going on.
Speaker 1: She doesn't like that now, so she took off.
Speaker 4: There's a humility to her.
Speaker 12: Randy in the back did whisper won in last run around,
Speaker 12: But you got upset over Greg taking her and you
Speaker 12: threw your head to that off.
Speaker 3: So I missed Randy's Okay, I apologize, we'll get I
Speaker 3: apologized to you too for that actor Berger And on
Speaker 3: my part, you took it off as he whispered it,
Speaker 3: so his eyes got all big, like.
Speaker 13: Randy, it wasn't about you. But it's Greg's fault that
Speaker 13: I got mad, all right. I should have known. Don't
Speaker 13: take the Jets topic. How many years have we've been
Speaker 13: doing this?
Speaker 1: I don't know many, though.
Speaker 4: Wait, but if you get, if you, if you in
Speaker 4: your next turn, get his third topic.
Speaker 3: Already good and it's there's literally no way Okay, he
Speaker 3: can get my next one, okay, because I know Greg
Speaker 3: and there's no way he'll have the take that I have.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're up, Dalton Kincaid Buffalo. I mean, there's there
Speaker 4: are positive reports bubbling up about in general, this rookie
Speaker 4: tight end class. There's a couple of people dotted around
Speaker 4: the league. But I like this because Kinkaid. I think,
Speaker 4: like they didn't go get DeAndre Hopkins. People questioned why
Speaker 4: they didn't draft like a wide receiver high Kincaid's going
Speaker 4: to be used that way, and like if he was
Speaker 4: a buster, he's not picking it up. You got problems,
Speaker 4: I think on that offense, but instead they talked about
Speaker 4: Joe Paskaglia from the Athletic does a great job with
Speaker 4: the Bills, has said that he's just looked the part
Speaker 4: like he's just had this like incredible feel. He's been
Speaker 4: getting NonStop eleven on eleven first team work. Josh Allen
Speaker 4: is already like in sync with him, hitting him all
Speaker 4: over the field. Blah blah blah. No, I don't like
Speaker 4: all over the field, but he is looking looks like
Speaker 4: I think's he's like a Week one NFL starter. And
Speaker 4: I think in general, tight ends you gotta wait till
Speaker 4: year two or three to see who they are. And
Speaker 4: maybe if that's not the case here, Buffalo arrow up
Speaker 4: in a very tough AFC.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the and we've talked about the tight
Speaker 3: ends in recent years haven't set the league on fire,
Speaker 3: which makes it even more And wide receivers have a
Speaker 3: lot of these wide receivers come into the league and
Speaker 3: they're and immediate difference makers. And the Bills, we know,
Speaker 3: need somebody to come in this year, in a key
Speaker 3: year for the organization and be a difference maker on
Speaker 3: that offense.
Speaker 1: I hope King Kate is because I'm rooting for the Bills.
Speaker 2: He's so much fun to watch it. They rookie tight
Speaker 2: ends tend to struggle a little more with the mental
Speaker 2: side of the thing, and then the blocking too, so
Speaker 2: that's gonna ramp up when you put on pads, when
Speaker 2: you start tackling. But yeah, you were referring to I
Speaker 2: think Sam Laporta especially, he's been getting juiced. That was
Speaker 2: my guy in the draft. The iokay, like, and I
Speaker 2: fully expect Laporta, who's getting a ton of hype, and Kincaid,
Speaker 2: who's who is getting it as well, are gonna be
Speaker 2: Week one starters. Whether they're whether they come through or not,
Speaker 2: like we'll have to find out, But I don't think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be them being brought along slowly. I'm excited
Speaker 2: about Laporta.
Speaker 4: They're talking about Laporta as like literally flat out looking
Speaker 4: at one of the as like one of the best
Speaker 4: players on the field. So and this is this could
Speaker 4: be it, Like we haven't had a tight end class
Speaker 4: like this in a long long time.
Speaker 1: That would be I do.
Speaker 3: Like that that is a trope to but I do
Speaker 3: like that one best player on the field one that
Speaker 3: means that it's to the point where it's successive. He's
Speaker 3: just cooking everyone and he just looks better than everyone.
Speaker 3: Usually that does translate. There was a lot of that,
Speaker 3: I have to say, as jetson with Elijah Moore as well,
Speaker 3: like he was like one of the all stars of
Speaker 3: the best player.
Speaker 4: Who's getting hype right now?
Speaker 1: These guys he is lining up all over the place.
Speaker 1: Is his month?
Speaker 2: This really is like the guys who make people miss,
Speaker 2: you know, who run the best routes. And and a
Speaker 2: player like Kincaid would fall in this too in terms
Speaker 2: of a tight end versus linebacker, Like they're gonna win
Speaker 2: these one on ones before the Like it's a great
Speaker 2: it's a great month for like five nine and seventy
Speaker 2: pounds slot receivers. But but but now we've seen in
Speaker 2: the NFL, you know.
Speaker 3: And like the beat reporters who are seventy five yards
Speaker 3: away from the action and they got the binoculars on, like,
Speaker 3: oh he made that guy miss?
Speaker 1: Who is he? He's winning?
Speaker 4: Yeah? But then there's like the first round cornerback that
Speaker 4: looks confused and lost right on the very reporting.
Speaker 2: I'd rather like and to be clear, five nine seventy
Speaker 2: when I say that it's not in a derogatory way.
Speaker 2: That man is huge compared to me. I'm saying, like
Speaker 2: that's a monster.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Bills camp, Tamar hammelin the back and pad.
Speaker 4: Depends what your body you could be. I'm just like
Speaker 4: nine pard seventy. It could be like like eighty eight
Speaker 4: percent body.
Speaker 2: I think they're off Gilatin. I think, right, that's true,
Speaker 2: that's good.
Speaker 3: Tamar Hamlin's back in pads. How about that? Is that
Speaker 3: crazy or what it really is? In I resuscitated on
Speaker 3: the field in December.
Speaker 2: It's trady wild because I was going through the the
Speaker 2: our lads and everything, and man, they are deep at safety.
Speaker 2: He's their for safety. I think there's no way you're
Speaker 2: gonna cut Tomar Hamlin. And he was a good player
Speaker 2: for them special teams and as a fill and starter.
Speaker 2: But they're really deep there. Like he's got to be
Speaker 2: no higher than fourth on the depth chart. If everyone's healthy.
Speaker 1: Uh, you're up, Greg, Actually try to get it. Try
Speaker 1: to to bang me in a big spoty okay.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm whistling a tune here out in Arizona, a
Speaker 2: Clayton tune. Here's my whisper. Whisper. There's like a non
Speaker 2: zero chance that Clayton Tune is a Week one NFL
Speaker 2: starter as a rookie. If you're not familiar with Clayton
Speaker 2: Tune's work, and I wasn't either, I believe he.
Speaker 1: Was at a J.
Speaker 2: Jas Man Houston right, he was at the University of Houston.
Speaker 2: Air raid guy inflated QB numbers typically, yeah, popping him
Speaker 2: out very old for a rookie. He's like twenty four
Speaker 2: fifth round pick. Take a little higher than some people thought.
Speaker 2: Some people liked him, some people did. How he his
Speaker 2: name for some reason, you just imagine that he's like
Speaker 2: this tryhard little guy, but no, he's actually like prototypical
Speaker 2: size and he moves pretty well. He's taking a lot
Speaker 2: of the first team reps. But everyone is there. I
Speaker 2: find this fascinating that this is what's happening an NFL team.
Speaker 2: They say Colt McCoy is not taking any more reps
Speaker 2: than anyone else. That all four quarterbacks there, which is
Speaker 2: not a good sign. Jeff driscoll, Colt McCoy, David Blow,
Speaker 2: and Clayton Tune are all taking reps. And McCoy's maybe
Speaker 2: like light in the mix and maybe they're bringing him
Speaker 2: back slowly off. But Tune seems like the guy that
Speaker 2: they're gearing up and that I think I'd be surprised
Speaker 2: if Clayton Tune doesn't play, doesn't start multiple games this year.
Speaker 2: It might be later in the season, and I feel
Speaker 2: like there's actually a chance you might turn on a
Speaker 2: week one game and Clayton Tune will be the starter.
Speaker 2: Just goes either.
Speaker 1: Gonna be Aritime game, it's probably.
Speaker 2: Gonna be Colt McCoy, but like at some point it's
Speaker 2: probably Clayton Tune, which is just crazy. Maybe he'll be good.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, but I could see like four different quarterbacks
Speaker 4: starting for them this season, and like.
Speaker 2: But like why start Jeff jiscoll and David blow This
Speaker 2: group drafted Tune, So I think.
Speaker 4: David Blough made is not a terrible option. If you're
Speaker 4: trying to win three games.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, but I don't think they're trying
Speaker 3: to win, but they are trying to develop.
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to win three games. To your point,
Speaker 2: I think anymore.
Speaker 4: Right you roll a rookie out, a low around rookie out,
Speaker 4: because it's like the plan is clear.
Speaker 3: If they can develop Clayton Tune into a good backup
Speaker 3: for Kyler Murray or whoever is the quarterback next. Sure, uh,
Speaker 3: that's a victory. But if you play Colt McCoy, what
Speaker 3: is Colt McCoy doing. He's a placeholder for a team
Speaker 3: that's obviously going nowhere this year. It makes more sense
Speaker 3: that you would start younger guys, I think because.
Speaker 4: I think Cole McCoy. I mean they're not They had
Speaker 4: a lot of issues, but like Cole McCoy might put
Speaker 4: you in the world where like, if you get the
Speaker 4: good version of Cole McCay, you suddenly were winning a
Speaker 4: few too many games.
Speaker 2: Maybe right, they didn't even it's not the same GM
Speaker 2: and coaching staff. I'm sure they love Colt McCoy, but
Speaker 2: you gotta be a little worried that every time he
Speaker 2: goes out. I'd just rather see him as a backup
Speaker 2: the guy he's like the coach.
Speaker 4: Remember I saw Colt McCoy in the Super Bowl speaking
Speaker 4: cel Lobby.
Speaker 2: He thought he'd a nice bod.
Speaker 4: I thought he looked to be.
Speaker 2: And he looked to be vibrant, vibrant thing.
Speaker 4: Everyone. Actually he's seventy two years old. Like he looked,
Speaker 4: he looked better than like anyone else. In the lobby
Speaker 4: of the hotel.
Speaker 1: Who cult.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, oh, by the way, here's an NFL
Speaker 4: quarterback who's like in his early thirties. Like he's gonna
Speaker 4: look better than ninety six percent of the other men
Speaker 4: trouncing around with their Starbucks and their croissants and like
Speaker 4: whatever it else. He's in his late thirties, he's almost forty,
Speaker 4: but he looks younger than that too. I'm just he
Speaker 4: looks he's sort of ageless.
Speaker 3: I mean he's Yeah, he's in tremendous physical professional athlete. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a quarterback. Quarterbacks many times are attractive people. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and uh, they're just different than us, even cold who
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like an athletic freak.
Speaker 4: Is that's how he came across in person.
Speaker 3: All right, everybody holds up one second. Let's take a
Speaker 3: break and then share some more whispers.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're back, Greg.
Speaker 3: I know it might seem that I'm more critical of
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and the pro Ravens agenda that you sometimes
Speaker 3: push on our platform. I know it seems that way, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I think some of it.
Speaker 2: Just your denial of it is the annoying part.
Speaker 1: I think some of it.
Speaker 3: Some of it is just a frustration from my standpoint
Speaker 3: that Lamar sometimes it seems like he ducks not hit
Speaker 3: him himself, but the way he is portrayed in the
Speaker 3: media narrative around the Ravens is not really being at
Speaker 3: fault when things go wrong for an organization that has,
Speaker 3: by the way, one playoff victory in the last eight years, okay,
Speaker 3: and Lamar's been there, what five of them? My point is,
Speaker 3: I think Lamar, just like the Ravens front office and
Speaker 3: the roster, needs to improve as well if they're going
Speaker 3: to really get to their true goal, which is winning
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and with that set a min but
Speaker 3: an interesting note out of Ravens camp where new offensive
Speaker 3: coordinator Todd Monkin has eliminated Jackson's use of a wristband
Speaker 3: to call plays in the huddle. Since he's been the quarterback,
Speaker 3: it's been common that he uses the wristband to call
Speaker 3: and plays, and Monkin came out and explain that that
Speaker 3: is part of what we're trying to get rid of
Speaker 3: because the offense has been pretty rigid in the previous
Speaker 3: under previous leadership. He didn't call out the previous coordinator,
Speaker 3: Greg Roman.
Speaker 1: But that's how you treat it right, the play calls
Speaker 1: getting in late. Here's what Mancott.
Speaker 3: Had to say about this this change in terms of
Speaker 3: the setup for play.
Speaker 14: One of the most important things is if your ability
Speaker 14: to communicate the calls, and the best way for that
Speaker 14: to happen is to not start with wristbands. He has
Speaker 14: to hear what I say, He has to process the call,
Speaker 14: he has to regurgitate to the players, he has to
Speaker 14: get the case as we can always go to wristbands.
Speaker 14: Wristbands are easy, you just read it. Hard is learning
Speaker 14: the offense being able to process and make the calls.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting to me. It's actually empowering Jackson.
Speaker 3: If you can handle this, Lamar, and you're able to
Speaker 3: do this side of it, just in a different way,
Speaker 3: that will give you more power to change the plays
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, will get plays into you faster,
Speaker 3: and the offense can perhaps improve because even before he
Speaker 3: got hurt last year, the offense wasn't operating at a
Speaker 3: high level. Monkin and Lamar with a better surrounding talent,
Speaker 3: there's going to be pressure on them, obviously to be
Speaker 3: much better. A small but somewhat interesting nugget at a Ravens.
Speaker 6: I like that.
Speaker 4: I think he's showing faith in them. It's not a
Speaker 4: slam on Lamar. I mean, you're in your sixth season.
Speaker 4: I think you know. I've always thought, like doing the
Speaker 4: work of being a quarterback physically versus the suddenly having
Speaker 4: to call like a twenty seven word play, I would
Speaker 4: probably be baffled on how to do the latter, not
Speaker 4: if not the former also, but like, I think the
Speaker 4: former would be tough. I mean, I'm just saying enough.
Speaker 4: They're different, they seem like different skill sets.
Speaker 2: But marks he's Patrick mahomes back. Now I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna freak out. I just I've never understood like
Speaker 2: how they do that.
Speaker 4: But like, uh, this assumption though, because I my last
Speaker 4: memory of Todd Monkin in the NFL was he was
Speaker 4: on that disastrous twenty nineteen Brown staff as a sort
Speaker 4: of quasi offensive aid slash passing game type deal, and uh,
Speaker 4: it was an absolute mess. And it's like Todd Mounkin's
Speaker 4: done a lot in his career, so I don't although
Speaker 4: I hope it goes.
Speaker 2: Great, it's kind of a mess with the Bucks, wasn't
Speaker 2: it too. There's this infection. He went back to college
Speaker 2: and had a lot of success in college, and he
Speaker 2: had a great reputation at the beginning of his Bucks time.
Speaker 4: Right, so, but all that could materialize, Like I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, he got he's he's there for a reason.
Speaker 4: But it's like this thing about Lamar Jackson is gonna
Speaker 4: throw six thousand yards and all this, like a lot
Speaker 4: needs to happen for any of that to work. Oh well,
Speaker 4: I thought it was more than that, but like, uh.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was thinking of Chicago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think he likes he put on a
Speaker 4: preposterous number. It's like, Okay, there's a big wait and see,
Speaker 4: like aspect to Todd Munkins slash Lamar Jackson, Like the
Speaker 4: only thing is that if Lamar struggles with the wristband situation,
Speaker 4: it's a new offense to begin with. We saw what
Speaker 4: happened even with Shanahan and Matt Ryan. That firsture was
Speaker 4: like you got a lesser version of Matt Ryan before
Speaker 4: he turned into an MVP. Like there's a lot of
Speaker 4: variables here and I'm just I don't know. It's this
Speaker 4: assumption that they're going to be explosive just because they
Speaker 4: have like Odell Beckham.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I think the key is the getting the
Speaker 2: plays in and having flexibility to change it. It's crat.
Speaker 2: You just can't be running an offense in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two where you're basically not audibling and if you're not
Speaker 2: starting like an early rookie quarterback, and it is a
Speaker 2: little crazy that. I think that's why Greg Roman got
Speaker 2: a lot of criticism. Nothing wrong with the wristband. I
Speaker 2: mean Tom Brady wore a wristband pretty much his whole career.
Speaker 2: He liked it.
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to streamline.
Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, but you know, I went and
Speaker 2: looked at Lamar's a Pro Football reference page, and you say,
Speaker 2: like the unnecessary, like lifting up, it's like without delivering.
Speaker 2: I'm not a QB wins guy, but the man was.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to use it to strengthen my I'm just.
Speaker 2: Saying when he started over the last five years, he
Speaker 2: finished his last season only twenty five forty five wins
Speaker 2: sixteen losses.
Speaker 1: That's just nice.
Speaker 2: So you've got to pay attention to that kind of
Speaker 2: team and a season player running quarterback.
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, he did say he said, I
Speaker 4: think I told someone like, man, I want to throw
Speaker 4: it for like six thousand yards with the webs we have.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I say, you be throwing out six thousand.
Speaker 4: I know, I'm not saying. You know, just got on
Speaker 4: my radar. It's like, there's the confidence, is there? I
Speaker 4: hope it works.
Speaker 1: Developing news, Oh, developing news on the Taylor Swift tickets.
Speaker 5: I'm just want to say, per source, I have inside sources,
Speaker 5: the names have been pulled, some final approvals are are
Speaker 5: being weighted on right now.
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's a little sisty final approvals.
Speaker 6: Yes, So so.
Speaker 1: Whether the names that were pulled say no to some
Speaker 1: that want.
Speaker 5: To raffle, this is what I'm very confused by. Obviously
Speaker 5: there was multiple their their email with eight tickets were available,
Speaker 5: so I'm assuming two tickets per person would be four
Speaker 5: for sets for sets. So the names have been pulled.
Speaker 5: So and approvals are in the worst source.
Speaker 4: Something when we talk about the reporter aspect of what
Speaker 4: you're doing, which that's a night this is good information
Speaker 4: follow up question because.
Speaker 2: That's that approval for what would be that?
Speaker 5: All I know is I heard approval is nothing more,
Speaker 5: nothing less than that. So I don't know what that.
Speaker 3: Follow Can you dig on that, can you see what
Speaker 3: are they what are they seeking in terms of approval.
Speaker 6: I will put in some work with my sources.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like some hot shot third floor executive one
Speaker 2: and they were like, oh, this is going to look bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as much as I don't want that to happen,
Speaker 3: because God knows the people on the third floor, they
Speaker 3: could spring for the secondary market. I gotta say if
Speaker 3: they if they're in the raffle, the win and their
Speaker 3: name comes out, I'm not going to complain about that.
Speaker 3: If you want to take them out, that's fair too.
Speaker 3: But once you allow them in, we can't have an
Speaker 3: approval process deciding who's worthy of the ticket.
Speaker 4: That's basic integrity. And I don't like this word behind
Speaker 4: the scenes toying with the results. That sounds fishy.
Speaker 1: I keep taking show. I'm gonna come back to you
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode.
Speaker 6: Will if I have any updates, we'll let you know.
Speaker 2: I once won the Rams Raffle very early on in
Speaker 2: this huge history, and then I think the rule was
Speaker 2: you could not enter another raffle for a certain amount
Speaker 2: of time. So I don't know if that seems sketchy, right,
Speaker 2: I think I.
Speaker 4: Remember you won that. That seemed very first thing, very suspicious.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go around again. One more time?
Speaker 2: Great, just one more time. Well you could throw because
Speaker 2: one is one is a one is a silly one.
Speaker 2: And I just want to it's more of a point
Speaker 2: that I want to make. The packers sent out a
Speaker 2: happy birthday message, uh to young man. I don't need
Speaker 2: to put him on blast even on Saturday, send out
Speaker 2: happy birthday message. Two hours later they released him. And
Speaker 2: so what we need to do here, what we need
Speaker 2: to do here is we need to get social in
Speaker 2: the meetings. I think if they're having uh you know,
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur and the GM and everything's there, like we
Speaker 2: now need to bring in the social media element into
Speaker 2: that meeting so that they can avoid a mistake like
Speaker 2: this in the future. Because you got to work as
Speaker 2: one organization. You're responsible for that. Yeah, that that you're
Speaker 2: absolutely right, battles that.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: I just want to point that one out. The Seahawks
Speaker 2: running back position feels cursed. Kenneth Walker, were you taking this?
Speaker 1: You got the hat trick of the zoos?
Speaker 2: All right, you take that one then, because I got
Speaker 2: another one. I like a lot of Sante Samuel might
Speaker 2: not start in uh Los Angeles with the Chargers. I
Speaker 2: think is very interesting. I don't know why it took
Speaker 2: them a couple of years to realize this, but like
Speaker 2: they need people that can tackle. They're such a bad
Speaker 2: run defense. He doesn't really work in the slot. They're
Speaker 2: gonna have just Seer Taylor there, who is a safety
Speaker 2: now j C. Jackson's back, but you also had Michael
Speaker 2: Davis played really well last year. It's interesting because the
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel's made some plays, but it really sounds like
Speaker 2: he might be the guy on the outside looking in
Speaker 2: this year. That's a little.
Speaker 3: I like that you got one more, Oh well, one
Speaker 3: little nugget. I was gonna say, great, did you have
Speaker 3: one more to one and get off your chest before
Speaker 3: we or you got a natural connection.
Speaker 4: I would say that, like, uh, we're wondering what Kellen
Speaker 4: Moore's offense will look like. How they use players like
Speaker 4: Mike Williams, who has been a natural dominant outside receiver
Speaker 4: has been playing in the.
Speaker 2: Slot a lot, move it all over the field everywhere.
Speaker 4: I do have one.
Speaker 1: I do them on the outside one put them in motion, guy.
Speaker 2: One more, one more means one more not people were
Speaker 2: excited about that about Cowboys, uh draft Luke Lukes Scoon
Speaker 2: Maker thinking like, oh, they kind of reached for this
Speaker 2: guy and put him right in the lamp, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't It sounds like he might have a lost entire
Speaker 2: camp and it's gonna maybe be Jake Ferguson as their
Speaker 2: starting week one toda end. So a little disappointment there.
Speaker 2: A pretty vaunted second round pick they were hoping to
Speaker 2: get something out of him, might be out for at
Speaker 2: least a few weeks.
Speaker 4: Mark Justin Fields revealed that he's a pescatarian. Do you
Speaker 4: know what that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does, only it's fish or doesn't eat things.
Speaker 4: He eats fish, but he doesn't eat like meat, steak, chicken,
Speaker 4: but yeah, any other type of just fish feet, like
Speaker 4: like food that comes from animals basically, right, or maybe cheese.
Speaker 2: But he was vegan, so he's adding these.
Speaker 4: Added I think that's you know, it's not that many just.
Speaker 1: What is going on with your meat journey? By the way,
Speaker 1: you had the double.
Speaker 4: Cheeseburger they called a meat journey. That's that that's not
Speaker 4: attractive but.
Speaker 1: Not inaccurate though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sounds like a great Saturday night.
Speaker 2: A moast journey put me on it. I'd like to
Speaker 2: take a meat journey around the South Bay.
Speaker 4: I did try the further.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not. It's just like a small part of my diet.
Speaker 4: But I did try, like because I used to go
Speaker 4: to In and Out and I'd get like the like
Speaker 4: the grilled cheese with kind of thing, you know, with
Speaker 4: with nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would get the In and Out truck used
Speaker 3: to come to our old office sometimes and everybody would get,
Speaker 3: you know, the typical burger.
Speaker 1: Mark would get the grilled cheese, which was always.
Speaker 4: So I tried their actual burger and I've been hearing
Speaker 4: for like a decade plus it's one of the greatest
Speaker 4: thing that's ever happened to Los Angeles with the planet
Speaker 4: totally overrated. Oh well, for instance, remember the one I
Speaker 4: had with you.
Speaker 2: It's a tired take.
Speaker 4: I also think every take about In and Out is tired.
Speaker 4: But I just field, I just ate it and like
Speaker 4: it was like, Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 2: You know what it is. And the more the more
Speaker 2: that you eat it, and then it's it's it's the children,
Speaker 2: and that the more you eat it, everything is, everything
Speaker 2: is good. It's the regularity that it's available everywhere. So
Speaker 2: that's just replacing McDonald's essentially, but at a much higher
Speaker 2: level without the kids being in the mix. Then yeah,
Speaker 2: I see your point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'm not trying to make a big point.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was how many times do you
Speaker 1: need me to week?
Speaker 4: No, not that much, like twice. Maybe I'm more just
Speaker 4: trying it like like little spots, you know, like had
Speaker 4: steak one time, which was amazing at uh Musso and Franks,
Speaker 4: like just you went to often, but like it's uh,
Speaker 4: I never.
Speaker 1: Huh saw.
Speaker 4: It was incredible? Did that credible?
Speaker 1: But there's a certain cocktail you got to get.
Speaker 4: I've gotten it for the ones. Yeah, we should do it,
Speaker 4: We should, We should do it sometime next time you're
Speaker 4: up there.
Speaker 3: I would love to whiskey sour at Frank and Musso's anytime.
Speaker 3: Just like Rick Dalton, you can sit in those same seats.
Speaker 3: Love it places, old fashioned, old school Seattle Seahawks. They
Speaker 3: are cursed at running back Gregi ken Walker because every
Speaker 3: year we talk about how amazing that running back room
Speaker 3: is going to be, and then they draft and they
Speaker 3: load up and it's like wow, you know, They're just
Speaker 3: gonna keep coming at you in waves and then light clockwork.
Speaker 3: Injuries creep their way into the room and they're they're
Speaker 3: not wasting any time. These guys are just getting pads on.
Speaker 3: Ken Walker sidelined from Seahawks practice with a groin injury.
Speaker 3: Carol Pete Carroll made it sound like this could be
Speaker 3: an injury that could cost him significant time, so we'll
Speaker 3: see how long he's on the shelf. And then you
Speaker 3: have Jack Zach Sharbina. He's out indefinitely with a shoulder injury,
Speaker 3: and he was you know, so this went from Greg
Speaker 3: this like Charbone Verus Walker, and these guys gonna be
Speaker 3: who's gonna be the true alpha here? Now we might
Speaker 3: not have either of them on the field week one,
Speaker 3: we don't know yet, but just not a great way
Speaker 3: to start.
Speaker 2: I just feel like every season this happens, and there
Speaker 2: are some teams in some positions that are like this,
Speaker 2: but especially starting like with the Chris Carson era. But
Speaker 2: they they've just like every year there's injuries and they're
Speaker 2: I think they're you know, guys who are taking the
Speaker 2: first team reps right now are DJ Dallas and Kenny mcinal.
Speaker 2: Kenny mackenna. That's I got to call him Rocky macin thash.
Speaker 2: I don't know, this sounds like that would be a name,
Speaker 2: but this it's always happened. It's very disappointing. And as
Speaker 2: someone whose son owns a Kenneth Walker shirt, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm always rooting for this guy.
Speaker 1: Any millennials behind the glass that remember the movie about the.
Speaker 2: Shot Penny was always hurt for them.
Speaker 3: Everyone always hurt the movie about the kid who found
Speaker 3: the million dollars maybe.
Speaker 1: Before their time. I think his last name was McIntosh.
Speaker 2: What happened in the blank check?
Speaker 1: Blank check?
Speaker 12: Yeah, he found a blank or got hit by car
Speaker 12: car backing up and a guy he says sms in
Speaker 12: a hurry, gives him a blank check, runs off and
Speaker 12: he like makes a fake persona with a computer like
Speaker 12: back old school computers and like something something macintosh and
Speaker 12: uses like the AI voice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sounds absurd.
Speaker 2: It has some like old FBI chick hit on him somehow.
Speaker 2: Never heard of this movie. We were fifteen years old,
Speaker 2: so we were a little old for it. When it
Speaker 2: came out.
Speaker 1: He was yeah, he was mister McIntosh. She went by no.
Speaker 3: It was a very weird Duff, who was in a
Speaker 3: MTV VJ at the time, was breaking into acting. She
Speaker 3: plays like an older woman in her late twenties who's
Speaker 3: like in a romantic relationship.
Speaker 1: That's surprising.
Speaker 3: How many movies in the nineties have a child, usually
Speaker 3: a boy that has some type of crush on an
Speaker 3: older woman, and then they they have some type of
Speaker 3: romantic moments, like they.
Speaker 12: Run through like some museum sprinklers together they have like
Speaker 12: a night out on the town and bizarre Well.
Speaker 4: Remember what about Big with Tom Hanks turning into a
Speaker 4: child and having all sorts of adult adventures.
Speaker 1: Just that you don't see it anymore.
Speaker 4: No, I think it's a bit off that you don't
Speaker 4: need to.
Speaker 1: I was expecting it in Oppenheimer, A little bit of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Oppenheimer would be a right territory third act.
Speaker 4: Yeah you think you're You're right.
Speaker 1: It's a little Duff and Macintosh running to the fountains.
Speaker 1: Anything else? Oh?
Speaker 3: Can I just say, can we pull up the rams
Speaker 3: T shirts? You know this is a trope itself. A
Speaker 3: head coaches as long. I remember going to Jets camp
Speaker 3: in ninety nine after they went to the AFC title
Speaker 3: game and parcel said, everybody's gonna wear this T shirt.
Speaker 3: It's gonna say start over on the back because last
Speaker 3: year didn't happen, and then Billy Vinny Blue's achilles in
Speaker 3: week one and they never did start over.
Speaker 1: So Sean McVay.
Speaker 3: Has a T shirt that that they're bending around at
Speaker 3: RAMS camp that says the.
Speaker 1: Following on the back. It's a mouthful, is that Sean
Speaker 1: McVay wearing it like.
Speaker 2: One of our sens Alex like Stafford.
Speaker 3: All right, this is all all capital letters across the back.
Speaker 3: Mentally and physically tough players who play smart and love
Speaker 3: to compete. Mark as you and I entered this company
Speaker 3: as primarily as copy editors. The thing that really jumps
Speaker 3: out to me immediately is the top line and is
Speaker 3: spelled out, and then the second to last time smart
Speaker 3: in love. There's an ambersand that's frum me nuts. Why
Speaker 3: why the inconsistency there?
Speaker 4: I don't like players two words away from play.
Speaker 2: And it's pretty close too, And if they was both spelled.
Speaker 4: Out, I would have I would have maybe workshopped this
Speaker 4: a little bit. It's a mouthful. If you if you
Speaker 4: asked the players to take the shirt off and repeat
Speaker 4: the slogan.
Speaker 1: I'm sure is it a bit or is this was
Speaker 1: this really?
Speaker 2: I think the players might have made it so McVeigh
Speaker 2: might have been off the hook. It was actually uh
Speaker 2: Cooper Cupper, Matthew Stafford's But who's.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's more who's not who's not acting responsibly?
Speaker 3: Jordan Rodrigue, if you do hear this episode and you
Speaker 3: could maybe fill in little bit on this to give
Speaker 3: us an idea of why the RAMS T shirts are
Speaker 3: the way that they are, that would be helpful.
Speaker 2: Well. Plus, it's like when you're a player, like, what's
Speaker 2: gonna get you excited for that day's actions? Like, Hey, like, guys,
Speaker 2: let's go be mentally and physically tough players who play
Speaker 2: smart and love to compete. Like no one's ever spoken
Speaker 2: that way in the history of the humanly. Oh what what?
Speaker 2: What do you like at work today? I'm just a
Speaker 2: mentally and physically tough player who plays smart and love
Speaker 2: to Yeah, the two plays is terrible unsolicited advice.
Speaker 3: Something that would be maybe a little more just you
Speaker 3: could picture on the shirt compete.
Speaker 4: Well that I think that would ring through this.
Speaker 3: Is that just kind of just you can remember if
Speaker 3: you want to stylize it, put a period, were put
Speaker 3: an exclamation points on the slammer on the I don't care,
Speaker 3: but let's shorten it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just want to get really crazy to do the
Speaker 2: Spanish like backwards slammer and the slammer.
Speaker 1: Right, I like that.
Speaker 2: And it's like I react with your sorry getting tacos
Speaker 2: with this, like what has happened?
Speaker 1: You never know? You never know? All right?
Speaker 3: Anything else? I think we're good, right, Oh, anything else
Speaker 3: from Sean Keller developing? There last thing, Taylor Swift raffle.
Speaker 5: Don't don't play it. There's no developing news. I just
Speaker 5: I haven't heard anything. I'm not told any more information,
Speaker 5: and I just have to we you didn't even did
Speaker 5: he try?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did follow up on the approval.
Speaker 5: I was told the approvals. I was not to allow
Speaker 5: any more information on the approvals.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 1: But there are approval there's approval protocol.
Speaker 6: That there's approval protocol.
Speaker 1: The story is pretty big, actually.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I don't sense that he did
Speaker 4: a ton of work.
Speaker 2: He didn't. He didn't push back at that point.
Speaker 6: That was as much as I could.
Speaker 4: That's not how a journalist to.
Speaker 1: Be a true journal you have to be dogged.
Speaker 4: Bro, you don't go talk.
Speaker 2: I did as much as I You don't accept easy answers.
Speaker 1: You got if you risk rubbing people.
Speaker 3: And you're such an agreeable guy, and you're such a
Speaker 3: nice guy show and I know you maybe don't want
Speaker 3: to people the wrong way, but sometimes you gotta unturned
Speaker 3: stones that people don't want it unturned.
Speaker 2: You could find out who this, where this person's office is,
Speaker 2: and just go up. Sometimes you can get something there's
Speaker 2: not a when there's not a digital footprint. Sometimes people
Speaker 2: are a little more willing to give you the truth.
Speaker 2: You know, not an email.
Speaker 5: Person, the person. Take that advice. Thanks guys. More information
Speaker 5: will come when available.
Speaker 1: Check out Sean Kelly on social media. He's a he's
Speaker 1: a stand up on the rise, by the way, go
Speaker 1: see him in the LA area.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, good stuff. We'll be back on
Speaker 3: Wednesday with more coverage of the National Football League as
Speaker 3: as football is back on Thursday. But it's the start
Speaker 3: of football being back, you guys, get it. Until then,
Speaker 3: Dan Heads a signing off or a quiet storm, the
Speaker 3: Old Boss, Eric Roberts and the Gang behind the Glass
Speaker 1: Approvals, Burkey E, the call,