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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast has got that Dog?

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Speaker 3: From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I am Dan Hands's heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 3: and I think I hope everybody had a nice weekend.

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Speaker 3: Greg Mark, he's a Hollywood legend.

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Speaker 1: You don't. He's a cinophile. You thought he would not

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Speaker 1: see you. Second before we started, I heard the new

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Speaker 1: Mission Impossible. Wasn't that great? Mark was like, I beg

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Speaker 1: to differ because he sees them all.

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Speaker 4: Well, you you said that you heard it was the

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Speaker 4: worst one. I would disagree with that only because I

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Speaker 4: can think of a few that I very much disliked.

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Speaker 4: This one was that.

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Speaker 2: It was all like about teamwork and being he was

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Speaker 2: kind of corny compared to the last one.

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Speaker 4: I think get pointed fun in itself, like in a

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Speaker 1: Little linking, a little self referential.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were we also talking about we both saw Oppenheimer.

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Speaker 4: Right, I agree, like did it blow me off the earth?

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Speaker 2: I liked.

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Speaker 4: I saw it six am, to be honest, which was

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Speaker 4: I've never done in a theater. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Were you tired?

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Speaker 4: I thought like I got up super early and even

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Speaker 4: went running to try to be like and drink some

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Speaker 4: thing feeling like it's midday, And it was like it

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Speaker 4: was around six fifty three, and I'm like, I'm nodding

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Speaker 4: off here, like I'm struggling to stay away.

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Speaker 3: If the movie started at six, yeah, and you fall

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Speaker 3: went running, Yeah, gim packed. What time did you pull

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Speaker 4: Like before point thirty?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: The theaters across the street from where lived.

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Speaker 1: So did you sleep? What do you mean did you

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Speaker 1: go to sleep before the run?

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Speaker 4: I tried to go previously. I went to sleep at

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Speaker 4: like ten something at night. I tried to Yeah that's good.

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Speaker 1: Well that's good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it was an attempt to not try to

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Speaker 4: go straight from bed to a theater and then just

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Speaker 4: continue to sleep in a dark, cozy theater. Smart, So

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Speaker 4: it was a battle. You saw it at nine easier, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'd assume.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Other pop culture news, when we got so much to

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Speaker 3: get to in the NFL. Of course, that's it is

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Speaker 3: around the NFL. But today, in fact, it's gonna happen

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Speaker 3: during today's taping. They have a raffle amongst NFL media

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Speaker 3: employees to see Taylor Swift the Errors Tour next Tuesday

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Speaker 3: right here at Sofi Stadium. And it is all anyone

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Speaker 3: is talking about right now. I Mean, this whole building

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Speaker 3: is on fire with like twenty six year olds that

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Speaker 3: can't stop talking about will they get the tickets which

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Speaker 3: are going for thousands of dollars on the secondary market.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring in Sean Kelly behind the glass ere Shawnee,

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Speaker 3: give us a temperature of the generation Z right now.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's really hot, Dan, It's it's everybody is firing

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Speaker 5: in all ballistics today. I'm just all the middle, like

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Speaker 5: the twenty the mid twenties is just buzzing the office

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Speaker 5: group chats on Slack or just going bonkers. Everybody wants

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Speaker 5: these Tata tickets, don't I'm I'm in the isn't that

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Speaker 5: her nickname?

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Speaker 4: I'm just the way maybe coming through your the way

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Speaker 4: that you did it.

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Speaker 2: Also two tickets. There's got to be hundreds of people

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Speaker 2: in this raft.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of people in the raffle.

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Speaker 1: Aren't they. It's Swifties, right, Oh?

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Speaker 6: Is it Swifties? I always thought that was their nickname.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I have good luck in raffles.

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Speaker 5: I I'm not generally going for the tickets. I've already

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Speaker 5: promised a coworker that the tickets would be theirs if

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Speaker 5: I do win.

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Speaker 2: So and I see Christy Stapleton, it is Christy.

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Speaker 6: Stapleton behind me.

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Speaker 5: Yes, she will be getting the tickets, but it's going

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Speaker 5: to be an intense event. I'm assuming twelve pm for

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Speaker 5: the drop. They just said Monday, so that's like a

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Speaker 5: good middle of the day line.

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Speaker 3: Can you be our official monitor of this if it

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Speaker 3: happens during the show, coming with some breaking news.

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Speaker 6: So it will be a breaking news.

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Speaker 4: Sean Kelly came in here and told us he was

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Speaker 4: doing this some thing, and Greg informed him logically like

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Speaker 4: the you're probably not going to win, and Sean acknowledged

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Speaker 4: that this was his quote. The odds are heavily stacked

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Speaker 4: he's good at raffles.

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Speaker 3: Apparently he's the rock party of this. You know, everyone

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Speaker 3: sounding him out.

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Speaker 2: Ok, if they can fill up the parking lot, the lines,

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Speaker 2: whether she can match BTS, I would.

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Speaker 1: Not doubt she's going to color swift right now.

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Speaker 4: I'd resell them. I'd win it then resell them.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's allowed.

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Speaker 6: You're not allowed to do that, are you in the raffle?

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Speaker 4: I didn't even I don't have femal this computer.

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Speaker 3: And it actually the show conflicts with the Hard Knocks

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Speaker 3: premiere next week and the podcast I'll be doing with Colleen,

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Speaker 3: So maybe my tickets would go up for grabs.

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Speaker 6: What a wild time, Colleen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, excuse me, Christy, you're out though, because you kind

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Speaker 3: of hinted you might poison me to get the tickets

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Speaker 3: that I already have that I'm going with my wife

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Speaker 3: and on Monday.

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Speaker 2: So this was a long like brag, I'm already.

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Speaker 6: Going, all right, all right, good stuff, all right, here

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Speaker 6: we go?

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Speaker 1: She did.

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Speaker 3: She kind of hinted, Hey, if you were to get sick,

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Speaker 3: I'll take your tickets.

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Speaker 2: Is it too late to enter this raffle?

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're out broke right. Uh. The NFL is really

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Speaker 1: starting to hit up now. Boys. The pads are on.

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Speaker 2: That was a big thing Monday throughout the league. The

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Speaker 2: but the pads are now everybody. Football is back.

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Speaker 3: Now, it's back, right, well, pads are off, sure, until

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Speaker 3: then there's a game this week, then it's back.

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Speaker 2: Then it's football.

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Speaker 4: But then then, really, then we realized the preseason is

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Speaker 2: Well actually, but also you put the pads on, but

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Speaker 4: It's vaguely back at that point.

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Speaker 3: Until Thursday, the week would opener, football's backing, but really

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Speaker 4: Well, it really doesn't even councel Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: That's when the season starts.

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Speaker 3: Football's back, and really it really comes down to one

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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna share some whispers. Coming out of

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Speaker 1: Crazy. But for some news I kind of looked by

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Speaker 1: a saying, if you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get to the storyline around Sean Payton, one

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Speaker 3: of the better kind of summer stories that ever has

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's got so many layers to it.

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Speaker 1: It's wonderful. It's wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're so used to players going at each other,

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Speaker 3: And not for nothing. Sean Payton, your initial when you

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Speaker 4: You never said anything interesting on Fox that you cannot

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Speaker 3: Point out one thing Sean Payton said in his year

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Speaker 4: Endless milk toast commentary.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I remember trying to get a new

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Speaker 2: the dunks, like the sneakers that he wore. Every that

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Speaker 3: And the goodbye tweet from Fox, which is like Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: It's like, what take eight million of our dollars?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Let's get to it, starting with obviously the big news

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Speaker 3: that broke and yes we are undefeated here.

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Speaker 1: This is just this is what we do.

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Speaker 3: We record podcasts, and then major news happens immediately following

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Speaker 3: the recording of said podcast. That happened on Thursday at

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Speaker 3: Bengals practice, where Joe Burrow rolled out to his right

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Speaker 3: the preseason obviously. NFL Networks Mike Garafolo reports that week

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Speaker 3: one quote should be realistic for Burrow. However, GREGI couple

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Speaker 3: not an ideal situation obviously for Cincinnati, not one that

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Speaker 3: other concern here, Greg, is the calf is one of

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Speaker 2: I think of Kevin Durant, obviously a very different sport,

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Speaker 4: That has to be the biggest bomb for Bengals fans,

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Speaker 4: that exact thing that they're They're not. There's no panic.

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Speaker 3: This led to a what was said to be by

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Speaker 8: I die tonight and Jonathan Taylor's the league. No one's

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Speaker 9: And who goes. Yeah, you know, and it's the privilege

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Speaker 8: Now's the time to seize the moment of greatness.

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Speaker 2: Can you hit him with the Kyle Sanahan? We might

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Speaker 1: And I think he's talking about the big picture.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's technically correct. I mean there careful, the league good.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Jonathan Taylor loved hearing this. The funny thing

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Speaker 2: There's no way we're trading him, so.

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Speaker 4: if you look at last year what happened with the cults,

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Speaker 4: like Jonathan Taylor is an all pro level running back

440
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Speaker 4: not behind a bad offensive line. That offensive line needs

441
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Speaker 4: to be patched together and be a better unit overall

442
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Speaker 4: to actually get anything out of the running back situation.

443
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Speaker 4: They also have Zach Moss who suffered a broken forum today.

444
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Speaker 4: They're in a bad spot at that position.

445
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are, And I just I understand the they

446
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Speaker 3: have empathy for the running backs. But again, Taylor, I

447
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 3: don't know, and I don't like the way Ersay put that, like, hey,

448
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 3: now's the time for these kids to be out there playing,

449
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Speaker 3: because that's too reductive, and you understand why these players

450
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Speaker 3: understand for the same reasons Ersay's saying, get out there

451
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Speaker 3: and play because the window is short. That's why these

452
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Speaker 3: guys are trying to get paid right now, because they

453
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Speaker 3: know there's not a big payday coming five years from now.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just mad at it, Boss. It might

455
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Speaker 2: be a ran, a rare case where he would just

456
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Speaker 2: rather play for another team even if he wasn't getting

457
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Speaker 2: the contract, Because to your point, Mark, I don't think

458
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Speaker 2: there's a single team in the NFL that would be

459
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Speaker 2: willing to give up a decent draft pick and a

460
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Speaker 2: good kind He's coming off an injured ear where he

461
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Speaker 2: is sea great when he did play.

462
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Speaker 3: And he we don't know this physical. Who knows what's

463
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Speaker 3: going on with this physical. But if the ankle is

464
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Speaker 3: a part of the red flag here, which it sounds

465
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Speaker 3: like it, it's like am I going to give a

466
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Speaker 3: long term, huge contract to a running back who was

467
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Speaker 3: in someone else's building that suffered a serious injury to

468
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Speaker 3: his ankle that's still not healed yet. I just think

469
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Speaker 3: he's not being realistic. Here's no contract coming for this guy.

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Speaker 3: Could you see it for anybody else?

471
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Speaker 4: Could you see a team? I don't know, like you

472
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Speaker 4: could think of someone like the Cowboys or something like, oh,

473
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Speaker 4: we'll do this for a third round pick. And then

474
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Speaker 4: it's like we've got, you know, like some teams something

475
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Speaker 4: you got to pay him, right, but someone you.

476
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Speaker 2: Don't know, maybe not, maybe they don't.

477
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Speaker 4: It's a one year thing. And then yeah, I think

478
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Speaker 4: to Jonathan Taylor's point, like he just wants out of

479
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Speaker 4: this world of disrespect in Indianapolis. You get a one

480
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Speaker 4: year situation on AOD on a good team, then you

481
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Speaker 4: go out to free agency. It might be a better

482
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Speaker 4: situation for him than trying to lobby for a contract

483
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Speaker 4: he's not gonna get.

484
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Speaker 2: Right now, Chris Ballard has to have the least amount

485
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Speaker 2: of power of just about any GM out there, because

486
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Speaker 2: he was quoted saying how important Jonathan Taylor was to

487
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Speaker 2: this team not that long ago, how he did want

488
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Speaker 2: him long term, and I think he was being truthful.

489
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Speaker 2: And then you see these reports about them trying to

490
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Speaker 2: put him on the NFI list, and the reason they

491
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Speaker 2: would do that is because they wouldn't have to pay him,

492
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Speaker 2: and that it seems like a threat. It seems like

493
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Speaker 2: dirty pool. It seems like if you had to do

494
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Speaker 2: some source guessing, it's probably coming from ownership, not from

495
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Speaker 2: the front office, because I don't think the front office

496
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Speaker 2: wants to make him any more mad. And so this

497
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Speaker 2: could be a situation where the emotions are so hot

498
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Speaker 2: that something does happen.

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Speaker 3: We have this conversation a week or two ago. Oh

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Speaker 3: what has a shook we I mentioned, just like what

501
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Speaker 3: you know the cults like, you have an owner that's

502
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Speaker 3: increasingly expressing, you know, how he feels in public and

503
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 3: has more control than ever. It seems in terms of

504
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: the football operations. That would have me shook as a

505
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: Colts fan, because you want something collaborative, not just the

506
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: owner pointing things out and saying this is how everything

507
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Speaker 3: has to be.

508
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Speaker 2: And you could say whatever you want about running backs.

509
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor is vital to this team. Our our friend

510
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah pointed it out. He should like, he's got

511
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Speaker 2: a lot of these good thoughts. He should start he

512
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: could collect them together, do a podcast, a microphone, right,

513
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 2: it's I it's a growing things. It's just not you know.

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Speaker 1: How Jeremiah that's good.

515
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Speaker 2: Uh. He pointed out, there's no explosive element to this offense.

516
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is all sorts of explosive. But Michael Pittman

517
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 2: not the fastest guy in the world. Alec Pierce, that's

518
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: not really his game. He's you know, he's gonna catch

519
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: him jump balls. Josh Downs, that's not him. They don't

520
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: have it at running back like Jonathan Taylor is their

521
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Speaker 2: explosive guy.

522
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Speaker 3: One last note, by the way, on the Colts Camp,

523
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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson offore mentioned got a nose job?

524
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Speaker 6: All right?

525
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Speaker 1: In other did what job?

526
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Speaker 2: I mean you could call that our guy rap sheet

527
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Speaker 2: said specifically it was not a nose job.

528
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Speaker 4: But yes, it's something to do like septum, like corrected

529
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Speaker 4: or something internally.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It wasn't reshaped. I mean sure, it

531
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Speaker 2: wasn't a cosmetic surgery.

532
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Speaker 4: I was thinking, wait till cam to get a nose job.

533
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Speaker 3: I was saying, thinking how funny that term is that

534
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Speaker 3: it's just everyone's uh nose job like nose job. It's

535
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Speaker 3: just not funny. It is two funny words, but together, Yes,

536
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Speaker 3: it is. Anthony Richardson got a nose job. That is

537
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Speaker 3: not inaccurate.

538
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Speaker 2: It's just not a nose job. It's not a cosmetics

539
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Speaker 2: cosmetic surgery.

540
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Speaker 1: It implies, but I didn't say it is.

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Speaker 4: It is not accurate at all.

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Speaker 3: If you asked the surgeon, oh Richardson, is he did

543
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Speaker 3: you check out?

544
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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, earlier to nose job.

545
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what surgery, Like I fixed the.

546
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: Casual surgeon follow up, Oh what what type of nose job?

547
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: Septim correction.

548
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Earth and I don't know what you're

549
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Speaker 4: living in a different universe.

550
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, Sean Payton, Nathaniel Hackett, Robert Salah, a bunch

551
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: of players around the Jets.

552
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Speaker 1: It's a big old stew of funkiness.

553
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: After Peyton shot off to USA Today about how terrible

554
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: Hackett and the Broncos coaching staff was last year, as

555
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Speaker 3: I said, uh, Peyton then came out the next day

556
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Speaker 3: when I don't know how another element of the story.

557
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Speaker 3: How long has he been in this game? Did he

558
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Speaker 3: not realize that this was going to be a major.

559
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: Storm?

560
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Speaker 3: Did he not see this coming? Or h maybe.

561
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Speaker 4: You know when he gave the interview, You're in a

562
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Speaker 4: bit of a little.

563
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Speaker 1: More clear headed stay, Yeah.

564
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Speaker 2: He just was a little loose despite all the like

565
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Speaker 2: the all the Denver reporters and nationally where they were like, hey,

566
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Speaker 2: if Sean Payton does it, he has intention behind it.

567
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Speaker 2: He has purpose to everything he does. Cut to the

568
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Speaker 2: next Sean Payton's like, actually, I totally regret it. Why

569
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Speaker 2: why did I do that? Yeah?

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So you heard Robert sal obviously in the

571
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Speaker 3: in the news drob how he.

572
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Speaker 1: Addressed it a couple days ago.

573
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Speaker 3: My favorite part was Claybond's reaction to that in real time,

574
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: just burying his face in his hands.

575
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Speaker 1: With cringe.

576
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Speaker 3: But then Schrager was at Jets camp this weekend for

577
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Speaker 3: Back Together.

578
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 2: Weekend weekend NFL Network.

579
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Speaker 3: Great job by everyone on the team and this game

580
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 3: for us, well, we were supporters, Okay, I do support

581
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Speaker 3: what they did.

582
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Speaker 1: We were in the stands clapping, Yeah, I really did great.

583
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Speaker 3: Here is Schrager teed up Rogers in a way that

584
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Speaker 3: gave Rogers a chance to give a very kind of

585
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Speaker 3: non descript answer.

586
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Speaker 1: But Rogers was very descriptive in his responts.

587
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I love Nathaniel Hackett, and those comments were very

588
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 10: surprising for a coach to do that to another coach.

589
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 10: My left frat goes deep. You know, we had some

590
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 10: great years together in Green Bay, kept in touch, love

591
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 10: him and his family. He's an incredible family man, incredible dad,

592
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 10: and on the field I could say that. You know,

593
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 10: he's arguably my favorite switch around in the NFL. Just

594
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 10: his approach to it, how he makes it fun, how

595
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 10: he cares about the guys, just how he goes about

596
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 10: his business with respect, with leadership, with honesty, with integrity

597
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 10: and pause. It made me feel bad that someone.

598
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Now the blowtorch comes out, yeah, all.

599
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 10: Right, who's accomplished a lot in the league. Is that

600
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Speaker 10: insecure that they have to take another man down to

601
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 10: set themselves up for some sort of easy fall if

602
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 10: it doesn't go well for that team this year. I

603
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 10: thought it was way out of line, inappropriate, and I

604
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 10: think he needs to keep my coach's names out of

605
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Speaker 10: his mouth.

606
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Speaker 1: That's my quarterback.

607
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: Also, if you're Peter Schegger, who looks good in those

608
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: sunglasses right there, you know, oh, I've just generated it's

609
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: an absolute heat seeker of an interview.

610
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: Nice job for NFL. Plus, that was on job plus,

611
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: first they get us locked in to do content this

612
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: season and then that big, big on fire.

613
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Speaker 1: By the way, I love that. First of all, you know,

614
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Speaker 1: I'm a jentsman. I love that. I love Rogers being

615
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: all fired up there.

616
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Speaker 3: I also like, like, or what, like, what is Aaron

617
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: Rodgers actually going to do if Sean Payton says something else?

618
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: Is he going to punch him in the mouth? In

619
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: Week five? Like that was? Was that a physical threat

620
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: by Aaron Rodgers towards Sean Payton?

621
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Speaker 1: I love it all. This story is ridiculous and beautiful.

622
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: I thought of this quote that I often think of.

623
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Speaker 2: It was by an author like Rachel cust Werd. She wrote, like,

624
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: I thought, how often people betrayed themselves by what they

625
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: notice in others? And to me, this was a game

626
00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: recognizes game who has purposefully managed the me in deceptive

627
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: ways more over the last ten years than Aaron Rodgers

628
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: and Sean Payton, Like these two guys are similar and

629
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: Rogers like when he's saying that, how how you feel

630
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: bad for a guy that he would be so insecure

631
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: that he would bring down others in the process. You

632
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 2: almost feel like it's like, oh, that's something Rogers hit

633
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: on in therapy a couple of years ago when he

634
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: was burying his management, and so like, I don't think

635
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: he's wrong, and I think he's speaking from experience.

636
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: What Peyton maybe maybe if you peel back the layer,

637
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: maybe he was more just like as a way of

638
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: saying he was disappointed the Peyton, the guy who's playing

639
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: the game as long as he had, is in a

640
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: little more cunning and was so surface level about it,

641
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: rather than Rogers, who will do the backchannel route to

642
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: try to destroy his enemies.

643
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Speaker 4: I think part of it too, is because like when

644
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 4: people would absolutely verbally flame like Urban Meyer, it's like

645
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: Urban Meyer seems like an unlikable individual and like Nathaniel Hackett,

646
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: Yes that was a botch job we all knew out

647
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: of the gate. You know, you're a month into the

648
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: season wondering how soon he might be fired. Uh, But

649
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett has never been described as someone who is

650
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: not like a warm, enjoyable guy. He's there's something about

651
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 4: like I think the coach on coach hate is so rare,

652
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: we don't see it that often. But I always thought

653
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: what Sean Payton was trying to do and he did

654
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: not do it elegantly at all, was reset Russell Wilson

655
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: and reset Russell Wilson with the locker room and go

656
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: out of his way to put no blame on Russell Wilson,

657
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Speaker 4: which I think he deserves plenty of blame for last season,

658
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Speaker 4: but to put it all somewhere else because the one

659
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Speaker 4: thing we didn't talk about when we the first time

660
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: around was that he flamed his own general manager.

661
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Speaker 3: Right the point, because I thought about that after the fact.

662
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: He's still the GM. Yeah, wait, what's his name? Kevin

663
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: Saunders is still the GM, right.

664
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Speaker 4: I mean so I think Peyton probably afterwards was thinking, yeah,

665
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: Sean No, not Sevin Sanders, right, Sean Payton. Like, I

666
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: think having to go apologize was the stoop. Why it's

667
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: the worst part of it because it's like then you

668
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: just look like you're you you bungled the whole thing.

669
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Speaker 4: You're like, had you just stuck to it, I kind

670
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: of would have been like Sean Payton's kind of ball

671
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: and just doing what he wants to do. But instead,

672
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: you know, when you have this thing two days later,

673
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: we got to like come up with this fake apology.

674
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Speaker 2: I don't know, it is fun because I think both

675
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: of these got you know, Rogers is obviously gonna be

676
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: in Canton one day. Sean Payton's gonna have like a

677
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: case for it. So these aren't just like mid level

678
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: guys taking shots at each other. I love That's why

679
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: I got the story week five.

680
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: And you might have missed the summer episode. Maybe people

681
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: are coming back now. We decided collectively as a group,

682
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: you're on the NFL podcast that because Sean Payton's there

683
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: and George Peyton the general manager, it's too confusing, right,

684
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: so we just changed George Peyton's name to Kevin Saunders

685
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: on the show.

686
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: I think you're helping journalists everywhere too, because so the

687
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: song and dance where you put their first names when

688
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: you mentioned the boat in the same article.

689
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: And I have mixed feelings that you circled back here

690
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: because you want to reward the people who've been with

691
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: right throughout the opposite. So you get it too, but understand,

692
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: this is it. It's Kevin Saunders moving forward no more.

693
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: Ten you up and to that point, people that come

694
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: after me or either of my colleagues here in studio,

695
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: on Twitter or elsewhere saying WHOA, we really butchered that

696
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: he doesn't even know the GM's name. You will be

697
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: flamed for it, right, Well, you know, keep Kevin Saunders's

698
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: name out of your mouth.

699
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: We actually have a way to prevent you from ever

700
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: listening to the show again. We can we can geo

701
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: block your ace, your podcast app of choice. That doesn't

702
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: really help us to know that.

703
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a strategy that does of no service

704
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: to our.

705
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter and the Vikings make nice agreeing on a

706
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: one year, twenty million dollar contract. Hunter Greg has been

707
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: a difference maker for the Vikings, seventy one sacks sin

708
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: centering the league in twenty fifteen three pro balls. There's

709
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: a no tag clause here that gives him a chance

710
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: to hit the open market and get a more lucrative deal.

711
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: So you like to see this team and player working

712
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: together for the common good. And geez, the Vikings need

713
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: all the help they can get on that side of

714
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: the way.

715
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Speaker 2: I think it was so important. I think Brian Flores,

716
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: they're really excited, like they really could improve so much

717
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: on defense. But his defense, for instance in Miami, always

718
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: has good pass rushers. I love what Quesciadopha Mensa did

719
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: with this Vikings team. This offseason, and I think you

720
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: can see it by how he handled Zadarias Smith and Hunter.

721
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: They both wanted out. I think he did the right

722
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: thing moving on with Zadarias Smith that just wasn't gonna work.

723
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: They knew how important Hunter was and for once, like

724
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: a team just gave a guy a raise like he

725
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: was do only five and a half million. They decide

726
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: to give him a big raise. They're recognizing how important

727
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: he is. He can be a free agent after the year,

728
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: and it's like great for both sides. I think that

729
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: was probably their plan from the beginning. He let the

730
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: player in this case Hunter calm down. It's a good

731
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: job by Quessei.

732
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have completely cleaned the books, and so I

733
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: think this was a give Brian Flores a centerpiece and

734
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: a chance. Because we can get into this a little

735
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: bit late, but some of the whispers out of Vikings

736
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: camp is that, you know, Flores is working with a

737
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 4: lot of young players, but almost to a man, they

738
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: seem genuinely excited about this Flora's scheme, about the contrast

739
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: to what they were doing last year, the over complexity

740
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 4: of last year's defense compared to what Floraes is setting

741
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 4: them up to do so Hunter sits in the middle

742
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: of all that. You still love Harrison Smith, but it's

743
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 4: a lot, It's gonna be a big transition.

744
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: You've got a lot of young Let's say the official

745
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: team slogan of the twenty twenty three Vikings.

746
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: We talked about it last week.

747
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 4: Well, it was so effective that I've completely like happy

748
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: trails at Donateel. Yes it will check you later at

749
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: Donna Telly.

750
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 3: Let's circle back to the Broncos real quick here tough

751
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: tough news at a camp today where wide receiver Tim Patrick,

752
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: who once not so long ago last summer was seen

753
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: as maybe their number one wide receiver or a number

754
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 3: two type guy with them, He's not going to be

755
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: involved with the team for a second straight year. It

756
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: sounds like because he suffered what is believed to be

757
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: an a kill injury collapsed to the turf during a

758
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: seven on seven drill. He missed all of last season

759
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: after he tore his right acl in a non contact

760
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: drill in August second So almost a year to the

761
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: day I talked about mentioned my dad suffering an achilles injury.

762
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks back, about a month ago. It

763
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: happened in front of me. It was not fun at all.

764
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: But I know from learning more about it through my

765
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 3: dad and his subsequent doctor visits, when the Achilles goes,

766
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: it goes, you know.

767
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: So even though we don't have.

768
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: Confirmation right now, if they sit thinking on the field,

769
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: they could tell right away. And that's terrible news. It's

770
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 3: a tough injury for any athlete to come back from.

771
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: They were talking about him, as you know, Some were

772
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 4: saying he was the best football player in the receiver

773
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: room this offseason. They were really excited hav him back.

774
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 4: Obviously it was always underrated. I can't imagine because we

775
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: don't with these guys vanish off the radar. We just

776
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: move on with who's still available. But it's like Tim

777
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: Patrick has gone through two years. He's about to go

778
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: through two years of complete and total hell. Because I

779
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: think the one thing you hear about I remember when

780
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: when they featured Gronk on the Rehab Journey that you're

781
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: just spending all this time alone. You're just alone. And like,

782
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: if you're Tim Patrick, you know your dad doesn't have

783
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 4: to go run a four three four forty a year

784
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: from now.

785
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: I actually did tell him he has to do that.

786
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: Well, that would be remarkable. Yeah, and he might find

787
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: a different line of work if he was able to

788
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: do that. But I mean, Tim Patrick, you're wondering like

789
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: it could take you two years or more to get

790
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: back to where you are physically.

791
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm really glad he signed because he was an undrafted guy.

792
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: He signed a pretty nice extension late in the twenty

793
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: twenty one season. Just well timed that he got his

794
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: money before all this happened. It doesn't make you think

795
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: if Courtland Sutton was going to be traded if someone

796
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: I just thought Sutton was very much available. We heard

797
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: Sutton and Judy was available, and it felt like Sutton

798
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: was more available that at the end of this camp,

799
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: if someone needed a receiver somewhere, there was no one

800
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: more available than Courtland Sutton. Maybe maybe a little less available.

801
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: Now they're still fairly deep at wide receiver. They've got

802
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: a couple of young players, Marvin Mims brought in Callaway,

803
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: but I would think now Sutton is much more likely

804
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: to stay there.

805
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: And finally, in the news from the two first and goal.

806
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, touchdown.

807
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 11: Sony Michelle his sixth touchdown in the postseason three against

808
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 11: the Chargers two against the Chiefs. And now the first

809
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 11: touchdown of Super Bowl fifty three.

810
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: Super Bowl fifty three, a two yard touchdown, the only

811
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: touchdown in that game, the worst super.

812
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 2: Bowl, the greatest super Bowl ever.

813
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: Thirteen to three Patriots over Rams, the final Tom Brady

814
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and it was yes Sony Michelle who had

815
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: that lone touchdown in the game. The two time Super

816
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: Bowl champion, he won another one with the Rams a.

817
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: Couple of years back.

818
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: He decided to retire on the opening weekend of training

819
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: camp with the Rams.

820
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old. Four year college career.

821
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Georgia had those that run with the Patriots, and Sean

822
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 3: McVay call Michael Michelle the epitome of a pro.

823
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty nine yards in that Chargers game

824
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: in three touchdowns Division Round.

825
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: The six touchdowns in that postseason, six.

826
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: Touch up post season one hundred and thirteen yards against

827
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: the Chiefs in that AFC Championship Classic, in a couple

828
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: of touchdos, and a game winning Super Bowl touchdown, and

829
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: no one remembers that. It's like Jeremy Shockey had a

830
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: game winning Super Bowl touchdown with the Saints. I feel

831
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: like no one ever remembers that one either. So that

832
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 2: was a controversial pick in New England. Everyone wanted Lamar Jackson.

833
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: That's a great sliding doors moment. Then again they got

834
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: that sixth ring and with Sony Michelle, So I have

835
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: a great I don't know if they would have done

836
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: it without him.

837
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: I have a great sports stock idea. Greg, I think

838
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: you would like this. Maybe it's a little too esoteric.

839
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: But I kind of like it.

840
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: That Patriots run of two to eighteen, that is that

841
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: kind of compass it one to eighteen, just about the

842
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 3: running backs. Just there's so many different guys that just

843
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: went in and out and all had amazing moments. I

844
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: would watch fifteen minutes on what's his name, Jonas Gray,

845
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: I do fifteen minutes on a Sunday night for a

846
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: touchdown game and then missing his iPhone didn't go off

847
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: the next morning, and he missed practice and never like

848
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: played again for the team.

849
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: Like la Garrett Blunt looking like Jim Brown, Dylon nowhere. Yeah,

850
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: all these dudes, this is it not bad? Right?

851
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: You know how our friend Jordan Rodrigue did the playmakers

852
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: this offseason. That's gonna be That'll be yours. That's gonna

853
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: be years next season.

854
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: I'll pass this idea off. I don't need to be

855
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: too hands on.

856
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 4: You could got a producer with a.

857
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: Patriots O one to eighteen breakdown, But Greg, if you

858
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: want to take it, I'll just be ep.

859
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

860
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: The Patriots could have drafted Nick Chubb, who was you know,

861
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: drafted after Sony Michelle.

862
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: But teammates in college.

863
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's pasted on Nick Chubb and Lamar Jackson.

864
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: Maybe we're burying Lamar.

865
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: There was a lot of where did you have Bill

866
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: Belichick and your GM rankings?

867
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 2: Well, there just was a lot of buzz there. It's

868
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: with with Lamar back then. It is I can imagine.

869
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: I can't imagine really like being an NFL veteran. You

870
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: you show up to cam and you're just like, I

871
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: can't do this. Maybe it's your body, maybe it's your mind.

872
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: It happened to Eddie Goldman too for the Falcons. Again.

873
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: This is actually the second time this happened that they

874
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: thought he was going to be a part of their

875
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: rotation and he just was like, I can't do it.

876
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 4: Well, there's always nothing beats the Vonte Davis at halftime

877
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: being like, yeah, I'm out of here.

878
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like doing this anymore.

879
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 3: Good and you should know, Greg, it's good to we

880
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: all get little bones thrown our way on this podcast.

881
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 3: Every time a patriot retires that was connected that run,

882
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: it finds the news rundown and it never gets shot

883
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: down because we know you like it.

884
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: I think in this case, you know we had for you,

885
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: even gave.

886
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: You that highlight.

887
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: SNEAKYU, big moment in history.

888
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll be right back with some whispers. Rose,

889
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: welcome back.

890
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: So gross to maybe do some live reads, maybe live whispers.

891
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we get some female voices in the whisper.

892
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: It just seems a little aggressively us us.

893
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a lot of us whispering in your

894
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: which I think it would be unappealing. Ark, how about

895
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: some don't need that.

896
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: That one's good, Hey, stabledon, if you want my Taylor

897
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: Swift ticket, can you give me a little whispers at

898
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: some point throughout the segment? Just drop it in occasionally.

899
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: Get that headset on. She hates this, That's why I

900
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: like it. All right, it looks like she's gonna go

901
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: along with it. All right, let's get into it. Whispers,

902
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: What are we hearing what are we following? Beat reporters

903
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: are filling out notebooks, writing writing dispatches from training camp

904
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: where the pads are now on. Football has started its back.

905
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: Start us out, Greg, We're gonna go around the horn

906
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: a bunch of times. Here were things that we have

907
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: called from our research. Okay, fireless research go.

908
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: The most meaningful whispers are to me are players we

909
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: didn't know about emerging into roles. And I think that's

910
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: happening with an undrafted rookie named Eric Prince in oh

911
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: YouTube City one of them, because there's always so many

912
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: right now they have no but that was a good one.

913
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: They haven't put on the pads and everything. But everyone

914
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: there that we trust say he's popped so consistently and

915
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: is playing so often with the starters that he's a

916
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: little bit about like the Isaiah Pacheco of this year

917
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: for that team, they certainly have some room at the

918
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: running back position. And it makes me think of this

919
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: Chiefs team in general. You think of them as this

920
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: dynasty and they're getting back to the same place every year,

921
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: but because of their set up with it, they really

922
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: have like a stars and rookie contract kind of roster

923
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: that there's a lot on the line, like Raci Rice,

924
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: that they're rookie wide receivers having a chance to play

925
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: with the first team. Their linebacker spot where they signed

926
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: Drew Tranquil is definitely a little up for grabs and

927
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: he might take some playing time race. So there's a

928
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: lot of position battles there. But then Erik Prince is

929
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: one that I think is going to get drafted in

930
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: fantasy league.

931
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: So's we just did five minutes on Sony Michelle and

932
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: you took the one I was most excited about.

933
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: That's why I took it first. Just felt very whisper.

934
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: I think it is whisper. It's five on Michelle.

935
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: I think it's notable that pads are just going on

936
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: and beat writers like Adam Tecker, t Titcher and others

937
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 3: are saying, well, he's an undrafted rookie, but he's already

938
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 3: on this roster.

939
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: He's made this team.

940
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: Now just about is he going to be a special

941
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: teams guy or is he going to really find a

942
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 3: way in that running back room to make an impact?

943
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: And you're right, I think that's part of what makes

944
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: the Andy Reid side of things and this Chiefs dynasty

945
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: in part so interesting is that it's not just collection

946
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: of all stars. It's Mahomes, this great offensive mine and

947
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: Reid and then Kelsey obviously got to put him in

948
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 3: the mix. And then how they find and develop young

949
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: players as satellites around these Hall of famers, And we'll

950
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: see Maybe princes won't come up again on this show.

951
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: That's no I think possible, but it could.

952
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was reading about him too, and other

953
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 4: players are emerging from the woodward to talk about how

954
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: impressive he's been. And like, the one thing I love

955
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: about Andy Reid because it's like, how do you avoid

956
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 4: sort of wrote exhaustion. You've won the Super Bowl a

957
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: couple of times, you keep coming back to do the

958
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: same thing their training camp. The other was a feature

959
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: on this on the Athletic by Nate Taylor that practices

960
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: have been insane, that there have been fights three days in.

961
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: A row, Kelsey every time.

962
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kelsey was in a fisticuffs with someone named DiCaprio bootle.

963
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 4: So I love that, uh DiCaprio bootle at defensive back

964
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: on Oh Yeah. So you're a lot of young players,

965
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: a lot of stars and heated practices, and Reid is

966
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: loving it. He's just been saying, he's been shouting edge

967
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: edge edge. We're never We're never gonna sit down. And

968
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs just find a way to reboot.

969
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 3: And I know Kelsey rebootle, rebootle, apologize and said he

970
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: has to control him up.

971
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: Nah. I love that.

972
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, a team that's had that much success fighting in

973
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 3: training camp, they still got the fire.

974
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: Shout out to uh Pete Sweeney over at Arrowhead Pride.

975
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: We might might have to have him on if we

976
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: want a Chiefs guess he has some They have some

977
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: of the asked like recaps of any practice in the

978
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: entire league, and there's so so many battles going out.

979
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm just seeing here on his timeline here one of

980
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: their undrafted rookies that they were playing like as a

981
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: starter in a lot of uh snaps. Nase Johnson sounds

982
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: like he's suffered an ACL injury either Sunday or Monday.

983
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: So that is disappointing.

984
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: Whispers, whispers, that's not Christie, not at all.

985
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: The counter opposite Sean it's past noon is do we

986
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: have any updates on the Taylor swift front.

987
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 5: No updates on the Tailor Swift front as of right

988
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 5: now we've there's been inquiries waiting back. I think it

989
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: might be an afternoon. I did say twelve is like

990
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 5: a middle of the day, so I heard monday, So

991
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 5: I'm going to start at twelve.

992
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: You said twelve to us. That's being an important thing.

993
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: If you're going to be talking to other journalists, accuracy

994
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: is important. Oh yeah, that was just just make up

995
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: a number.

996
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 6: I just picked them at all of the day.

997
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 3: So you threw out that middlehigh, but you just threw

998
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: the first possible second that becomes afternoon, which is noon.

999
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1000
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 6: Well, I assume like in the middle of an average

1001
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 6: work day, right now, you.

1002
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: Do you do stand up, right, so like when you're

1003
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: doing a show, you don't just like say a time

1004
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: specifically and then it could be any time.

1005
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: Right, come at a stage in the middle of the day. Yeah,

1006
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: I see me in the middle of the day up

1007
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I never.

1008
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 6: Like X it was going to be on the nose.

1009
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: This entire episode has been built around the drawing happening

1010
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 3: five minutes ago.

1011
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, no, if that is what you thought,

1012
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 5: I apologize for my inaccuracy. This is why you're the

1013
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 5: journalist and I press.

1014
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: You've destroyed us Mark you all.

1015
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: I love the reports about emerging players, which we just did.

1016
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 4: I also think there's guys that we spent all off

1017
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: season wondering, like this guy still got it?

1018
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: Is?

1019
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: This guy?

1020
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: Is this gonna work?

1021
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: And so I go to Giants camp where Dan Athletic

1022
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: talked about the fact that Darren Waller, who I was like,

1023
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 4: he might be washed. Maybe this was a nice idea

1024
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: nice trade, but like he has been uncoverable all over

1025
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 4: the place, frying their defensive backs to the point where

1026
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: like rookie Deontay Banks, who they have a you know,

1027
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 4: they invested a lot in, is having a very uncomfortable

1028
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 4: rough start to camp, largely because of Waller, but other

1029
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: reasons too. But I think that's a huge, huge element

1030
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 4: for the Giants and Brian Dable. If you get this

1031
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: version that the Raiders basically gave away. It doesn't look

1032
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: good for the Raiders to give this player away after

1033
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: you know, injuries, everything he went through. But if you

1034
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: get the best version of them, it's great for Daniel Jones,

1035
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: it's great for Sakuon Barkley, It's great for an offense

1036
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: that kind of quietly has like twenty two wide receivers too.

1037
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 4: Right now, they kind of remind me of the Bills,

1038
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: where they just have done everything they can when they

1039
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: had Josh Allen to reload and add guys and Waller

1040
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: working out would be huge for the Giants, it.

1041
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: Would be huge.

1042
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 3: There's a little, to me, a little trope alert element

1043
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: to this that new player with Pro Bowl pedigree shows

1044
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 3: up and you know, moves around well, and the beat

1045
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: writers are all kind of smitten by it.

1046
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: Right, But there's a trope alert sort of attached to

1047
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: every one of these things, right some degree.

1048
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: But that I guess just with with Waller.

1049
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: Mark didn't appreciate that.

1050
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: No, but it's not personal. It was not.

1051
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: But he's he hasn't been healthy in a while, so

1052
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: I didn't buy that notable that he has not healthy

1053
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: looking good on in practice for a lot.

1054
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: You know what triggers me is moving all over the

1055
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: field like whatever, of course he's gonna be but this

1056
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: was the exercise, is gonna line up here, maybe he'll

1057
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: be in motion on this play.

1058
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: That doesn't do anything for me. He's moving all over

1059
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: the place.

1060
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 4: Well, we've said that the season doesn't even start till

1061
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 4: the Superbeason. Have any any meaning.

1062
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a little I have some doubts about

1063
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: the Waller Giants thing, but maybe that's it's an extend

1064
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: of my criticism here of the reporting.

1065
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, get him to weak one. I I

1066
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: think he is one of the most important people on

1067
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: that roster. If he if he could pop, that's huge and.

1068
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: Other the forty nine ers quarterbacks going ham the Niners offense.

1069
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 3: This was a report from Nick Wagoner. ESPN had its

1070
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 3: best day of camp. This is over the weekend. Trey

1071
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: Lance twelve of sixteen and first team reps five of

1072
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: eight with a touchdown pass and a touchdown run and

1073
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: red zone work. Sam Darnold who took the other four

1074
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: first team reps and twelve with the second unit eight

1075
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: of ten with a pair of touchdown passes to Brandon

1076
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: Ayuk in the red zone. We talked about last week

1077
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: that brock party has been cleared and seems to be

1078
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: on target for Week one. I guess my takeaway based

1079
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: on this is yes, usually you hear, especially this time camp,

1080
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: defense is are ahead of offense. I kind of think

1081
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: I have no concerns about the Niners because I think

1082
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: the team is kind of quarterback proof, which is such

1083
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: a obviously highest compment you could give to Kyle Shanahan

1084
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: for what he's good at.

1085
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I think they're going to move the ball and score points.

1086
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: Really no matter whose quarterback, I think Donald would do

1087
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: well in this offense. Trey Lance is such a mystery,

1088
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: but I would think that Shanahan would put him in

1089
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: the best position. And we saw that Purdy has the

1090
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 3: to move this team and be professional as well.

1091
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: Niners gonna be good.

1092
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Speaker 4: I want to add to your report in the newsroom

1093
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: this morning, not my report, well, your your entry reporting

1094
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 4: on the report, your yes, your review of the report.

1095
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: Omar Ruiz in the newsroom today and I asked, you know,

1096
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 4: like where you've been to a couple of camps. He's

1097
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 4: been to Raiders Arizona was like one hundred and fourteen degrees.

1098
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: You're wearing makeup and it's running into your hair. It's

1099
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: terrible situation. But went up to San Francisco and I

1100
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 4: was like, did anything like stand out about any player

1101
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 4: you saw at any camp? And like, I know this

1102
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: is a player that we've talked about before. Is like

1103
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: this is the year he becomes a superstar. But there

1104
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: are like superstar vibes around Brandon Ayuk that like what

1105
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 4: he's been doing up there, and he mentioned Sam Donald

1106
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 4: like whipped this like fifteen yard bam Donald right into

1107
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 4: the end zone and like this player emerged out of nowhere,

1108
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: high into the sky and it hit him right in

1109
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 4: like the hands, and it was like Brandon Ayuk jumping

1110
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: like twice as heidemas. So everything is going right for him.

1111
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 4: And I'm with you that the Niners just feel like

1112
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: they're picking up they left off on offense.

1113
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: I think it was on road a World I think

1114
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: had a passing reference to Sam Donald.

1115
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: Does the next Steve Young? I mean Shanahan ste That's.

1116
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: What Shanahan said. Couldn't he be the next Steve Young?

1117
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: And that quote to me was like the end of

1118
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: Trey Lance's career in San Francis. Yeah, I was just like,

1119
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: I guess it's obvious because even just the way they're

1120
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: cutting up the reps, Perty is healthy enough that he's

1121
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: taking off one of every three days, but otherwise he's

1122
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: getting twice as many reps as those two guys combined.

1123
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: So it's really pretty seem But the fact that Donald,

1124
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: who just joined the team on like a one year,

1125
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: three million dollar contract, is splitting reps with the guy

1126
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: who was the unquestioned starter, who they gave up three

1127
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 2: first round draft picks just a year ago at this time,

1128
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 2: and who was getting all there. The fact that Donald

1129
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: is splitting with him already, like they're not even giving

1130
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: Lance a chance. I do wonder if Lance is on

1131
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: this team even in Week one.

1132
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: Oh, I think they want to trade him, if anything,

1133
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 4: feature him in the preseason and.

1134
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: Ship him out of us. Another one, Greg, Okay, let's

1135
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 2: go negative. It's hard to be get negative first.

1136
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't usually do that.

1137
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: Week No, I got a lot Jets. I actually am

1138
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: concerned about their tackle situation, their offensive line, Mark Dance

1139
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: taking this off? What am I taking it from you?

1140
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: He took my second pick to Actually I should have.

1141
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: I could bury this one. You want it's too late

1142
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: you started, you started, Yeah, that would be answering. Okay.

1143
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: McKay becked in, that's not looking good.

1144
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: That was fine.

1145
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: It hasn't really been healthy, not good at all. Dwayne

1146
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: Brown turning thirty nine this year, I think and was like, Okay,

1147
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,479
Speaker 2: last year, it's still hurt. Still on the pup list,

1148
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's got older. They drafted tipman

1149
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: second round, uh center. But the idea is like, okay,

1150
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: that's that's like maybe three of those five spots for

1151
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: now he's second or third team. Who knows that that's

1152
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: not a huge concern. It takes rookies some time to

1153
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: get lifted. But if Billy Turner and and who is it,

1154
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: Max Mitchell are your tackles and they're struggling every day

1155
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: and practice against some good players, that's that's the huge

1156
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: fly in the ointment. It's more than a fly, it's

1157
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: a cockaroach.

1158
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's we talked about it, Greg when we talk

1159
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: about what are the training camp early storylines to keep

1160
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: an eye on. Yeah, I mentioned the O line and

1161
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: this is so far for everything that's going great around

1162
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: the Jets, and it's basically everything else. This is the

1163
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 3: one unit of the team that leaves them very vulnerable.

1164
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: Becked In sounds like he's a mess. I gotta say

1165
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: they had they and I.

1166
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: Thought he was he all he lost a ton of ways.

1167
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: But he hasn't played in essentially two years, and they

1168
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: finally kind of start working him back in to training

1169
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: camp and they have to shut him down. On Wednesday,

1170
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: Salas said that his rehab knee wasn't up for it.

1171
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: And this comes when you've heard you knows things I've

1172
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: heard from people that know I like the Jets, will

1173
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: tell me about his you know, his dedication and how

1174
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: you know his level football isn't there. And it's yes,

1175
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 3: he dropped a weight, but when he learned that he's

1176
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: basically in a competition to be the right tackle and

1177
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: he's tweeting a couple like a month ago that he's

1178
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: a left tackle, Like, is his head even in this.

1179
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: Is he is he about football?

1180
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 2: Or is he not playing them with the starters even

1181
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: when he is no.

1182
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: So I think everything around back then, both physically and mentally,

1183
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: is a huge question mark the second round center, it

1184
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: sounds like, yeah, like you said, he's a little behind,

1185
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: and yeah, you do want to see Dwayne Brown get

1186
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 3: out there now. Are they being extra careful with Brown

1187
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: coming off surgery in his late thirties, Sure, but you

1188
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: also want to have reps as a unit together when yes,

1189
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: you are protecting a quarterback who's nearly forty years old himself. Hamana,

1190
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: It's the only thing I think if this offensive line

1191
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: is good, everything else sparring.

1192
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: A lot of injuries or whatever.

1193
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: The Jets will be a great team, but the line

1194
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: has the ability to really cause havoc and dal McCook

1195
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: by the way, it seems like it's gonna happen, but

1196
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: we don't have it officially yet.

1197
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: Man, he's he was on Good Morning Football and like

1198
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: he really sounded like there was a connection there.

1199
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: There was like there on Sunday just watching practice. Yeah,

1200
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: it would be weird at this point if he does,

1201
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: he'd be really weird.

1202
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1203
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 3: He's like signing autographs and there's three thousand fans chanting

1204
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: his name.

1205
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, you're up Buffalo.

1206
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: I like this because that's good.

1207
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: Eric, that was a good one. Good.

1208
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: I was live.

1209
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: Was I'm emitting out the whole bench. I'm gonna have

1210
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: everybody doing. Christy has disappeared, so I think she.

1211
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 12: Sees it coming down the pipe, so she she doesn't

1212
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 12: like to do not in the room as the show

1213
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 12: is going on.

1214
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: She doesn't like that now, so she took off.

1215
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 4: There's a humility to her.

1216
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 12: Randy in the back did whisper won in last run around,

1217
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 12: But you got upset over Greg taking her and you

1218
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 12: threw your head to that off.

1219
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: So I missed Randy's Okay, I apologize, we'll get I

1220
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: apologized to you too for that actor Berger And on

1221
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 3: my part, you took it off as he whispered it,

1222
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: so his eyes got all big, like.

1223
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 13: Randy, it wasn't about you. But it's Greg's fault that

1224
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 13: I got mad, all right. I should have known. Don't

1225
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 13: take the Jets topic. How many years have we've been

1226
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 13: doing this?

1227
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know many, though.

1228
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 4: Wait, but if you get, if you, if you in

1229
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: your next turn, get his third topic.

1230
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: Already good and it's there's literally no way Okay, he

1231
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 3: can get my next one, okay, because I know Greg

1232
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: and there's no way he'll have the take that I have.

1233
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: Okay, you're up, Dalton Kincaid Buffalo. I mean, there's there

1234
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 4: are positive reports bubbling up about in general, this rookie

1235
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 4: tight end class. There's a couple of people dotted around

1236
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 4: the league. But I like this because Kinkaid. I think,

1237
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: like they didn't go get DeAndre Hopkins. People questioned why

1238
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: they didn't draft like a wide receiver high Kincaid's going

1239
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: to be used that way, and like if he was

1240
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: a buster, he's not picking it up. You got problems,

1241
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 4: I think on that offense, but instead they talked about

1242
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 4: Joe Paskaglia from the Athletic does a great job with

1243
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: the Bills, has said that he's just looked the part

1244
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 4: like he's just had this like incredible feel. He's been

1245
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: getting NonStop eleven on eleven first team work. Josh Allen

1246
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 4: is already like in sync with him, hitting him all

1247
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 4: over the field. Blah blah blah. No, I don't like

1248
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 4: all over the field, but he is looking looks like

1249
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 4: I think's he's like a Week one NFL starter. And

1250
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 4: I think in general, tight ends you gotta wait till

1251
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 4: year two or three to see who they are. And

1252
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: maybe if that's not the case here, Buffalo arrow up

1253
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 4: in a very tough AFC.

1254
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the and we've talked about the tight

1255
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: ends in recent years haven't set the league on fire,

1256
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: which makes it even more And wide receivers have a

1257
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: lot of these wide receivers come into the league and

1258
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: they're and immediate difference makers. And the Bills, we know,

1259
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: need somebody to come in this year, in a key

1260
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: year for the organization and be a difference maker on

1261
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: that offense.

1262
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: I hope King Kate is because I'm rooting for the Bills.

1263
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: He's so much fun to watch it. They rookie tight

1264
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: ends tend to struggle a little more with the mental

1265
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: side of the thing, and then the blocking too, so

1266
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: that's gonna ramp up when you put on pads, when

1267
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: you start tackling. But yeah, you were referring to I

1268
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: think Sam Laporta especially, he's been getting juiced. That was

1269
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: my guy in the draft. The iokay, like, and I

1270
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: fully expect Laporta, who's getting a ton of hype, and Kincaid,

1271
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: who's who is getting it as well, are gonna be

1272
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: Week one starters. Whether they're whether they come through or not,

1273
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: like we'll have to find out, But I don't think

1274
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna be them being brought along slowly. I'm excited

1275
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: about Laporta.

1276
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 4: They're talking about Laporta as like literally flat out looking

1277
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 4: at one of the as like one of the best

1278
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 4: players on the field. So and this is this could

1279
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: be it, Like we haven't had a tight end class

1280
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: like this in a long long time.

1281
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: That would be I do.

1282
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: Like that that is a trope to but I do

1283
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 3: like that one best player on the field one that

1284
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: means that it's to the point where it's successive. He's

1285
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: just cooking everyone and he just looks better than everyone.

1286
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: Usually that does translate. There was a lot of that,

1287
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: I have to say, as jetson with Elijah Moore as well,

1288
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: like he was like one of the all stars of

1289
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: the best player.

1290
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: Who's getting hype right now?

1291
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: These guys he is lining up all over the place.

1292
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: Is his month?

1293
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: This really is like the guys who make people miss,

1294
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: you know, who run the best routes. And and a

1295
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 2: player like Kincaid would fall in this too in terms

1296
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: of a tight end versus linebacker, Like they're gonna win

1297
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: these one on ones before the Like it's a great

1298
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: it's a great month for like five nine and seventy

1299
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: pounds slot receivers. But but but now we've seen in

1300
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: the NFL, you know.

1301
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: And like the beat reporters who are seventy five yards

1302
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: away from the action and they got the binoculars on, like,

1303
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 3: oh he made that guy miss?

1304
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: Who is he? He's winning?

1305
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? But then there's like the first round cornerback that

1306
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 4: looks confused and lost right on the very reporting.

1307
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: I'd rather like and to be clear, five nine seventy

1308
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: when I say that it's not in a derogatory way.

1309
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: That man is huge compared to me. I'm saying, like

1310
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: that's a monster.

1311
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Bills camp, Tamar hammelin the back and pad.

1312
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: Depends what your body you could be. I'm just like

1313
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 4: nine pard seventy. It could be like like eighty eight

1314
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 4: percent body.

1315
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: I think they're off Gilatin. I think, right, that's true,

1316
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: that's good.

1317
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: Tamar Hamlin's back in pads. How about that? Is that

1318
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: crazy or what it really is? In I resuscitated on

1319
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 3: the field in December.

1320
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: It's trady wild because I was going through the the

1321
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: our lads and everything, and man, they are deep at safety.

1322
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: He's their for safety. I think there's no way you're

1323
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: gonna cut Tomar Hamlin. And he was a good player

1324
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: for them special teams and as a fill and starter.

1325
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: But they're really deep there. Like he's got to be

1326
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: no higher than fourth on the depth chart. If everyone's healthy.

1327
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: Uh, you're up, Greg, Actually try to get it. Try

1328
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: to to bang me in a big spoty okay.

1329
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm I'm whistling a tune here out in Arizona, a

1330
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: Clayton tune. Here's my whisper. Whisper. There's like a non

1331
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: zero chance that Clayton Tune is a Week one NFL

1332
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: starter as a rookie. If you're not familiar with Clayton

1333
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: Tune's work, and I wasn't either, I believe he.

1334
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: Was at a J.

1335
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: Jas Man Houston right, he was at the University of Houston.

1336
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: Air raid guy inflated QB numbers typically, yeah, popping him

1337
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: out very old for a rookie. He's like twenty four

1338
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: fifth round pick. Take a little higher than some people thought.

1339
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: Some people liked him, some people did. How he his

1340
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: name for some reason, you just imagine that he's like

1341
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: this tryhard little guy, but no, he's actually like prototypical

1342
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: size and he moves pretty well. He's taking a lot

1343
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: of the first team reps. But everyone is there. I

1344
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: find this fascinating that this is what's happening an NFL team.

1345
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: They say Colt McCoy is not taking any more reps

1346
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: than anyone else. That all four quarterbacks there, which is

1347
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: not a good sign. Jeff driscoll, Colt McCoy, David Blow,

1348
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: and Clayton Tune are all taking reps. And McCoy's maybe

1349
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: like light in the mix and maybe they're bringing him

1350
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: back slowly off. But Tune seems like the guy that

1351
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: they're gearing up and that I think I'd be surprised

1352
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: if Clayton Tune doesn't play, doesn't start multiple games this year.

1353
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: It might be later in the season, and I feel

1354
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: like there's actually a chance you might turn on a

1355
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: week one game and Clayton Tune will be the starter.

1356
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: Just goes either.

1357
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: Gonna be Aritime game, it's probably.

1358
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: Gonna be Colt McCoy, but like at some point it's

1359
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: probably Clayton Tune, which is just crazy. Maybe he'll be good.

1360
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 4: It's crazy, but I could see like four different quarterbacks

1361
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 4: starting for them this season, and like.

1362
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: But like why start Jeff jiscoll and David blow This

1363
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: group drafted Tune, So I think.

1364
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: David Blough made is not a terrible option. If you're

1365
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 4: trying to win three games.

1366
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, but I don't think they're trying

1367
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: to win, but they are trying to develop.

1368
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to win three games. To your point,

1369
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: I think anymore.

1370
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 4: Right you roll a rookie out, a low around rookie out,

1371
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 4: because it's like the plan is clear.

1372
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 3: If they can develop Clayton Tune into a good backup

1373
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: for Kyler Murray or whoever is the quarterback next. Sure, uh,

1374
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: that's a victory. But if you play Colt McCoy, what

1375
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 3: is Colt McCoy doing. He's a placeholder for a team

1376
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: that's obviously going nowhere this year. It makes more sense

1377
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: that you would start younger guys, I think because.

1378
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 4: I think Cole McCoy. I mean they're not They had

1379
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 4: a lot of issues, but like Cole McCoy might put

1380
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 4: you in the world where like, if you get the

1381
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 4: good version of Cole McCay, you suddenly were winning a

1382
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 4: few too many games.

1383
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: Maybe right, they didn't even it's not the same GM

1384
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: and coaching staff. I'm sure they love Colt McCoy, but

1385
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: you gotta be a little worried that every time he

1386
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: goes out. I'd just rather see him as a backup

1387
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: the guy he's like the coach.

1388
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: Remember I saw Colt McCoy in the Super Bowl speaking

1389
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: cel Lobby.

1390
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:07,919
Speaker 2: He thought he'd a nice bod.

1391
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 4: I thought he looked to be.

1392
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: And he looked to be vibrant, vibrant thing.

1393
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,479
Speaker 4: Everyone. Actually he's seventy two years old. Like he looked,

1394
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 4: he looked better than like anyone else. In the lobby

1395
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: of the hotel.

1396
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: Who cult.

1397
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, oh, by the way, here's an NFL

1398
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: quarterback who's like in his early thirties. Like he's gonna

1399
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 4: look better than ninety six percent of the other men

1400
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 4: trouncing around with their Starbucks and their croissants and like

1401
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 4: whatever it else. He's in his late thirties, he's almost forty,

1402
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: but he looks younger than that too. I'm just he

1403
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 4: looks he's sort of ageless.

1404
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: I mean he's Yeah, he's in tremendous physical professional athlete. Yeah,

1405
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: he's a quarterback. Quarterbacks many times are attractive people. Yeah,

1406
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: and uh, they're just different than us, even cold who

1407
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like an athletic freak.

1408
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 4: Is that's how he came across in person.

1409
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: All right, everybody holds up one second. Let's take a

1410
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 3: break and then share some more whispers.

1411
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: All Right, we're back, Greg.

1412
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: I know it might seem that I'm more critical of

1413
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and the pro Ravens agenda that you sometimes

1414
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: push on our platform. I know it seems that way, Yeah,

1415
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: but I think some of it.

1416
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: Just your denial of it is the annoying part.

1417
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: I think some of it.

1418
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: Some of it is just a frustration from my standpoint

1419
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: that Lamar sometimes it seems like he ducks not hit

1420
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: him himself, but the way he is portrayed in the

1421
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: media narrative around the Ravens is not really being at

1422
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: fault when things go wrong for an organization that has,

1423
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: by the way, one playoff victory in the last eight years, okay,

1424
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 3: and Lamar's been there, what five of them? My point is,

1425
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 3: I think Lamar, just like the Ravens front office and

1426
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: the roster, needs to improve as well if they're going

1427
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: to really get to their true goal, which is winning

1428
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and with that set a min but

1429
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 3: an interesting note out of Ravens camp where new offensive

1430
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 3: coordinator Todd Monkin has eliminated Jackson's use of a wristband

1431
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: to call plays in the huddle. Since he's been the quarterback,

1432
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: it's been common that he uses the wristband to call

1433
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: and plays, and Monkin came out and explain that that

1434
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: is part of what we're trying to get rid of

1435
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: because the offense has been pretty rigid in the previous

1436
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: under previous leadership. He didn't call out the previous coordinator,

1437
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: Greg Roman.

1438
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: But that's how you treat it right, the play calls

1439
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: getting in late. Here's what Mancott.

1440
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: Had to say about this this change in terms of

1441
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 3: the setup for play.

1442
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 14: One of the most important things is if your ability

1443
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 14: to communicate the calls, and the best way for that

1444
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 14: to happen is to not start with wristbands. He has

1445
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 14: to hear what I say, He has to process the call,

1446
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 14: he has to regurgitate to the players, he has to

1447
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 14: get the case as we can always go to wristbands.

1448
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 14: Wristbands are easy, you just read it. Hard is learning

1449
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 14: the offense being able to process and make the calls.

1450
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: So that's interesting to me. It's actually empowering Jackson.

1451
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 3: If you can handle this, Lamar, and you're able to

1452
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 3: do this side of it, just in a different way,

1453
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 3: that will give you more power to change the plays

1454
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, will get plays into you faster,

1455
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: and the offense can perhaps improve because even before he

1456
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 3: got hurt last year, the offense wasn't operating at a

1457
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 3: high level. Monkin and Lamar with a better surrounding talent,

1458
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 3: there's going to be pressure on them, obviously to be

1459
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: much better. A small but somewhat interesting nugget at a Ravens.

1460
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 6: I like that.

1461
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 4: I think he's showing faith in them. It's not a

1462
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: slam on Lamar. I mean, you're in your sixth season.

1463
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 4: I think you know. I've always thought, like doing the

1464
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: work of being a quarterback physically versus the suddenly having

1465
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 4: to call like a twenty seven word play, I would

1466
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 4: probably be baffled on how to do the latter, not

1467
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 4: if not the former also, but like, I think the

1468
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 4: former would be tough. I mean, I'm just saying enough.

1469
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 4: They're different, they seem like different skill sets.

1470
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: But marks he's Patrick mahomes back. Now I'm like, I'm

1471
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 2: just gonna freak out. I just I've never understood like

1472
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: how they do that.

1473
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 4: But like, uh, this assumption though, because I my last

1474
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 4: memory of Todd Monkin in the NFL was he was

1475
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: on that disastrous twenty nineteen Brown staff as a sort

1476
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 4: of quasi offensive aid slash passing game type deal, and uh,

1477
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 4: it was an absolute mess. And it's like Todd Mounkin's

1478
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 4: done a lot in his career, so I don't although

1479
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 4: I hope it goes.

1480
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 2: Great, it's kind of a mess with the Bucks, wasn't

1481
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: it too. There's this infection. He went back to college

1482
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: and had a lot of success in college, and he

1483
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: had a great reputation at the beginning of his Bucks time.

1484
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 4: Right, so, but all that could materialize, Like I mean,

1485
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 4: you know, he got he's he's there for a reason.

1486
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 4: But it's like this thing about Lamar Jackson is gonna

1487
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: throw six thousand yards and all this, like a lot

1488
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 4: needs to happen for any of that to work. Oh well,

1489
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 4: I thought it was more than that, but like, uh.

1490
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was thinking of Chicago.

1491
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think he likes he put on a

1492
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 4: preposterous number. It's like, Okay, there's a big wait and see,

1493
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 4: like aspect to Todd Munkins slash Lamar Jackson, Like the

1494
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 4: only thing is that if Lamar struggles with the wristband situation,

1495
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 4: it's a new offense to begin with. We saw what

1496
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: happened even with Shanahan and Matt Ryan. That firsture was

1497
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 4: like you got a lesser version of Matt Ryan before

1498
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 4: he turned into an MVP. Like there's a lot of

1499
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 4: variables here and I'm just I don't know. It's this

1500
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 4: assumption that they're going to be explosive just because they

1501
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 4: have like Odell Beckham.

1502
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I think the key is the getting the

1503
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: plays in and having flexibility to change it. It's crat.

1504
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: You just can't be running an offense in twenty twenty

1505
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 2: two where you're basically not audibling and if you're not

1506
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: starting like an early rookie quarterback, and it is a

1507
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 2: little crazy that. I think that's why Greg Roman got

1508
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: a lot of criticism. Nothing wrong with the wristband. I

1509
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 2: mean Tom Brady wore a wristband pretty much his whole career.

1510
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 2: He liked it.

1511
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to streamline.

1512
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, but you know, I went and

1513
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: looked at Lamar's a Pro Football reference page, and you say,

1514
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: like the unnecessary, like lifting up, it's like without delivering.

1515
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a QB wins guy, but the man was.

1516
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to use it to strengthen my I'm just.

1517
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 2: Saying when he started over the last five years, he

1518
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: finished his last season only twenty five forty five wins

1519
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: sixteen losses.

1520
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: That's just nice.

1521
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: So you've got to pay attention to that kind of

1522
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: team and a season player running quarterback.

1523
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, he did say he said, I

1524
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 4: think I told someone like, man, I want to throw

1525
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 4: it for like six thousand yards with the webs we have.

1526
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I say, you be throwing out six thousand.

1527
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 4: I know, I'm not saying. You know, just got on

1528
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 4: my radar. It's like, there's the confidence, is there? I

1529
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 4: hope it works.

1530
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:43,440
Speaker 1: Developing news, Oh, developing news on the Taylor Swift tickets.

1531
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 5: I'm just want to say, per source, I have inside sources,

1532
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 5: the names have been pulled, some final approvals are are

1533
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 5: being weighted on right now.

1534
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 3: Oh that's that's a little sisty final approvals.

1535
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 6: Yes, So so.

1536
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: Whether the names that were pulled say no to some

1537
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: that want.

1538
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 5: To raffle, this is what I'm very confused by. Obviously

1539
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 5: there was multiple their their email with eight tickets were available,

1540
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 5: so I'm assuming two tickets per person would be four

1541
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 5: for sets for sets. So the names have been pulled.

1542
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 5: So and approvals are in the worst source.

1543
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 4: Something when we talk about the reporter aspect of what

1544
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 4: you're doing, which that's a night this is good information

1545
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 4: follow up question because.

1546
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: That's that approval for what would be that?

1547
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 5: All I know is I heard approval is nothing more,

1548
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 5: nothing less than that. So I don't know what that.

1549
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: Follow Can you dig on that, can you see what

1550
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 3: are they what are they seeking in terms of approval.

1551
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 6: I will put in some work with my sources.

1552
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like some hot shot third floor executive one

1553
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: and they were like, oh, this is going to look bad.

1554
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, as much as I don't want that to happen,

1555
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 3: because God knows the people on the third floor, they

1556
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: could spring for the secondary market. I gotta say if

1557
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: they if they're in the raffle, the win and their

1558
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 3: name comes out, I'm not going to complain about that.

1559
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: If you want to take them out, that's fair too.

1560
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 3: But once you allow them in, we can't have an

1561
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 3: approval process deciding who's worthy of the ticket.

1562
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 4: That's basic integrity. And I don't like this word behind

1563
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 4: the scenes toying with the results. That sounds fishy.

1564
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: I keep taking show. I'm gonna come back to you

1565
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode.

1566
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 6: Will if I have any updates, we'll let you know.

1567
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 2: I once won the Rams Raffle very early on in

1568
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: this huge history, and then I think the rule was

1569
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: you could not enter another raffle for a certain amount

1570
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: of time. So I don't know if that seems sketchy, right,

1571
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: I think I.

1572
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 4: Remember you won that. That seemed very first thing, very suspicious.

1573
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's go around again. One more time?

1574
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: Great, just one more time. Well you could throw because

1575
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: one is one is a one is a silly one.

1576
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: And I just want to it's more of a point

1577
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: that I want to make. The packers sent out a

1578
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: happy birthday message, uh to young man. I don't need

1579
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: to put him on blast even on Saturday, send out

1580
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: happy birthday message. Two hours later they released him. And

1581
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: so what we need to do here, what we need

1582
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: to do here is we need to get social in

1583
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: the meetings. I think if they're having uh you know,

1584
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur and the GM and everything's there, like we

1585
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: now need to bring in the social media element into

1586
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: that meeting so that they can avoid a mistake like

1587
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: this in the future. Because you got to work as

1588
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: one organization. You're responsible for that. Yeah, that that you're

1589
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 2: absolutely right, battles that.

1590
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: I like it.

1591
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 2: I just want to point that one out. The Seahawks

1592
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 2: running back position feels cursed. Kenneth Walker, were you taking this?

1593
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: You got the hat trick of the zoos?

1594
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: All right, you take that one then, because I got

1595
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 2: another one. I like a lot of Sante Samuel might

1596
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: not start in uh Los Angeles with the Chargers. I

1597
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: think is very interesting. I don't know why it took

1598
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: them a couple of years to realize this, but like

1599
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: they need people that can tackle. They're such a bad

1600
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: run defense. He doesn't really work in the slot. They're

1601
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: gonna have just Seer Taylor there, who is a safety

1602
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: now j C. Jackson's back, but you also had Michael

1603
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: Davis played really well last year. It's interesting because the

1604
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel's made some plays, but it really sounds like

1605
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: he might be the guy on the outside looking in

1606
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: this year. That's a little.

1607
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 3: I like that you got one more, Oh well, one

1608
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: little nugget. I was gonna say, great, did you have

1609
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: one more to one and get off your chest before

1610
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 3: we or you got a natural connection.

1611
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 4: I would say that, like, uh, we're wondering what Kellen

1612
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 4: Moore's offense will look like. How they use players like

1613
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 4: Mike Williams, who has been a natural dominant outside receiver

1614
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 4: has been playing in the.

1615
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,480
Speaker 2: Slot a lot, move it all over the field everywhere.

1616
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 4: I do have one.

1617
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: I do them on the outside one put them in motion, guy.

1618
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: One more, one more means one more not people were

1619
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: excited about that about Cowboys, uh draft Luke Lukes Scoon

1620
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: Maker thinking like, oh, they kind of reached for this

1621
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: guy and put him right in the lamp, and it

1622
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: doesn't It sounds like he might have a lost entire

1623
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 2: camp and it's gonna maybe be Jake Ferguson as their

1624
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: starting week one toda end. So a little disappointment there.

1625
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: A pretty vaunted second round pick they were hoping to

1626
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: get something out of him, might be out for at

1627
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: least a few weeks.

1628
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 4: Mark Justin Fields revealed that he's a pescatarian. Do you

1629
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 4: know what that?

1630
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does, only it's fish or doesn't eat things.

1631
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 4: He eats fish, but he doesn't eat like meat, steak, chicken,

1632
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 4: but yeah, any other type of just fish feet, like

1633
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 4: like food that comes from animals basically, right, or maybe cheese.

1634
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: But he was vegan, so he's adding these.

1635
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 4: Added I think that's you know, it's not that many just.

1636
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: What is going on with your meat journey? By the way,

1637
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: you had the double.

1638
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 4: Cheeseburger they called a meat journey. That's that that's not

1639
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 4: attractive but.

1640
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: Not inaccurate though.

1641
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sounds like a great Saturday night.

1642
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: A moast journey put me on it. I'd like to

1643
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 2: take a meat journey around the South Bay.

1644
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 4: I did try the further.

1645
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: I don't.

1646
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 4: I'm not. It's just like a small part of my diet.

1647
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 4: But I did try, like because I used to go

1648
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 4: to In and Out and I'd get like the like

1649
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 4: the grilled cheese with kind of thing, you know, with

1650
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 4: with nothing.

1651
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would get the In and Out truck used

1652
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 3: to come to our old office sometimes and everybody would get,

1653
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 3: you know, the typical burger.

1654
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: Mark would get the grilled cheese, which was always.

1655
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: So I tried their actual burger and I've been hearing

1656
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 4: for like a decade plus it's one of the greatest

1657
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 4: thing that's ever happened to Los Angeles with the planet

1658
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 4: totally overrated. Oh well, for instance, remember the one I

1659
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 4: had with you.

1660
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: It's a tired take.

1661
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 4: I also think every take about In and Out is tired.

1662
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 4: But I just field, I just ate it and like

1663
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 4: it was like, Okay, that's fine.

1664
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: You know what it is. And the more the more

1665
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,919
Speaker 2: that you eat it, and then it's it's it's the children,

1666
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: and that the more you eat it, everything is, everything

1667
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 2: is good. It's the regularity that it's available everywhere. So

1668
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: that's just replacing McDonald's essentially, but at a much higher

1669
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: level without the kids being in the mix. Then yeah,

1670
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 2: I see your point.

1671
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I'm not trying to make a big point.

1672
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: I just thought it was how many times do you

1673
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: need me to week?

1674
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 4: No, not that much, like twice. Maybe I'm more just

1675
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 4: trying it like like little spots, you know, like had

1676
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 4: steak one time, which was amazing at uh Musso and Franks,

1677
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 4: like just you went to often, but like it's uh,

1678
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 4: I never.

1679
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: Huh saw.

1680
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 4: It was incredible? Did that credible?

1681
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: But there's a certain cocktail you got to get.

1682
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 4: I've gotten it for the ones. Yeah, we should do it,

1683
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 4: We should, We should do it sometime next time you're

1684
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 4: up there.

1685
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 3: I would love to whiskey sour at Frank and Musso's anytime.

1686
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 3: Just like Rick Dalton, you can sit in those same seats.

1687
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 3: Love it places, old fashioned, old school Seattle Seahawks. They

1688
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: are cursed at running back Gregi ken Walker because every

1689
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 3: year we talk about how amazing that running back room

1690
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 3: is going to be, and then they draft and they

1691
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: load up and it's like wow, you know, They're just

1692
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 3: gonna keep coming at you in waves and then light clockwork.

1693
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 3: Injuries creep their way into the room and they're they're

1694
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 3: not wasting any time. These guys are just getting pads on.

1695
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 3: Ken Walker sidelined from Seahawks practice with a groin injury.

1696
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: Carol Pete Carroll made it sound like this could be

1697
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 3: an injury that could cost him significant time, so we'll

1698
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 3: see how long he's on the shelf. And then you

1699
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 3: have Jack Zach Sharbina. He's out indefinitely with a shoulder injury,

1700
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 3: and he was you know, so this went from Greg

1701
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: this like Charbone Verus Walker, and these guys gonna be

1702
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 3: who's gonna be the true alpha here? Now we might

1703
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: not have either of them on the field week one,

1704
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 3: we don't know yet, but just not a great way

1705
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: to start.

1706
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 2: I just feel like every season this happens, and there

1707
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: are some teams in some positions that are like this,

1708
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 2: but especially starting like with the Chris Carson era. But

1709
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: they they've just like every year there's injuries and they're

1710
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 2: I think they're you know, guys who are taking the

1711
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: first team reps right now are DJ Dallas and Kenny mcinal.

1712
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: Kenny mackenna. That's I got to call him Rocky macin thash.

1713
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, this sounds like that would be a name,

1714
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: but this it's always happened. It's very disappointing. And as

1715
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: someone whose son owns a Kenneth Walker shirt, you know,

1716
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm always rooting for this guy.

1717
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: Any millennials behind the glass that remember the movie about the.

1718
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: Shot Penny was always hurt for them.

1719
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 3: Everyone always hurt the movie about the kid who found

1720
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 3: the million dollars maybe.

1721
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: Before their time. I think his last name was McIntosh.

1722
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 2: What happened in the blank check?

1723
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: Blank check?

1724
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, he found a blank or got hit by car

1725
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 12: car backing up and a guy he says sms in

1726
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 12: a hurry, gives him a blank check, runs off and

1727
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 12: he like makes a fake persona with a computer like

1728
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 12: back old school computers and like something something macintosh and

1729
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 12: uses like the AI voice.

1730
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sounds absurd.

1731
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 2: It has some like old FBI chick hit on him somehow.

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01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: Never heard of this movie. We were fifteen years old,

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 2: so we were a little old for it. When it

1734
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 2: came out.

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01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: He was yeah, he was mister McIntosh. She went by no.

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01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 3: It was a very weird Duff, who was in a

1737
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: MTV VJ at the time, was breaking into acting. She

1738
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 3: plays like an older woman in her late twenties who's

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01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,480
Speaker 3: like in a romantic relationship.

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Speaker 1: That's surprising.

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01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 3: How many movies in the nineties have a child, usually

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01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 3: a boy that has some type of crush on an

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 3: older woman, and then they they have some type of

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01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: romantic moments, like they.

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01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 12: Run through like some museum sprinklers together they have like

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01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 12: a night out on the town and bizarre Well.

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01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 4: Remember what about Big with Tom Hanks turning into a

1748
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 4: child and having all sorts of adult adventures.

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: Just that you don't see it anymore.

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01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 4: No, I think it's a bit off that you don't

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 4: need to.

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01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: I was expecting it in Oppenheimer, A little bit of it.

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01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Oppenheimer would be a right territory third act.

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah you think you're You're right.

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01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: It's a little Duff and Macintosh running to the fountains.

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01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: Anything else? Oh?

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01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 3: Can I just say, can we pull up the rams

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01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 3: T shirts? You know this is a trope itself. A

1759
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 3: head coaches as long. I remember going to Jets camp

1760
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 3: in ninety nine after they went to the AFC title

1761
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: game and parcel said, everybody's gonna wear this T shirt.

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01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 3: It's gonna say start over on the back because last

1763
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 3: year didn't happen, and then Billy Vinny Blue's achilles in

1764
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 3: week one and they never did start over.

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01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: So Sean McVay.

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01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 3: Has a T shirt that that they're bending around at

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 3: RAMS camp that says the.

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: Following on the back. It's a mouthful, is that Sean

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: McVay wearing it like.

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01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: One of our sens Alex like Stafford.

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01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 3: All right, this is all all capital letters across the back.

1772
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: Mentally and physically tough players who play smart and love

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01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 3: to compete. Mark as you and I entered this company

1774
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 3: as primarily as copy editors. The thing that really jumps

1775
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 3: out to me immediately is the top line and is

1776
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 3: spelled out, and then the second to last time smart

1777
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 3: in love. There's an ambersand that's frum me nuts. Why

1778
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 3: why the inconsistency there?

1779
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,520
Speaker 4: I don't like players two words away from play.

1780
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,480
Speaker 2: And it's pretty close too, And if they was both spelled.

1781
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 4: Out, I would have I would have maybe workshopped this

1782
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 4: a little bit. It's a mouthful. If you if you

1783
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 4: asked the players to take the shirt off and repeat

1784
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 4: the slogan.

1785
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure is it a bit or is this was

1786
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: this really?

1787
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: I think the players might have made it so McVeigh

1788
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 2: might have been off the hook. It was actually uh

1789
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: Cooper Cupper, Matthew Stafford's But who's.

1790
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's more who's not who's not acting responsibly?

1791
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 3: Jordan Rodrigue, if you do hear this episode and you

1792
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 3: could maybe fill in little bit on this to give

1793
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: us an idea of why the RAMS T shirts are

1794
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 3: the way that they are, that would be helpful.

1795
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: Well. Plus, it's like when you're a player, like, what's

1796
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: gonna get you excited for that day's actions? Like, Hey, like, guys,

1797
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 2: let's go be mentally and physically tough players who play

1798
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: smart and love to compete. Like no one's ever spoken

1799
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 2: that way in the history of the humanly. Oh what what?

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01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 2: What do you like at work today? I'm just a

1801
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: mentally and physically tough player who plays smart and love

1802
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: to Yeah, the two plays is terrible unsolicited advice.

1803
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 3: Something that would be maybe a little more just you

1804
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 3: could picture on the shirt compete.

1805
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 4: Well that I think that would ring through this.

1806
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 3: Is that just kind of just you can remember if

1807
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 3: you want to stylize it, put a period, were put

1808
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: an exclamation points on the slammer on the I don't care,

1809
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 3: but let's shorten it up.

1810
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, just want to get really crazy to do the

1811
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: Spanish like backwards slammer and the slammer.

1812
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: Right, I like that.

1813
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 2: And it's like I react with your sorry getting tacos

1814
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: with this, like what has happened?

1815
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: You never know? You never know? All right?

1816
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 3: Anything else? I think we're good, right, Oh, anything else

1817
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 3: from Sean Keller developing? There last thing, Taylor Swift raffle.

1818
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 5: Don't don't play it. There's no developing news. I just

1819
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 5: I haven't heard anything. I'm not told any more information,

1820
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 5: and I just have to we you didn't even did

1821
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 5: he try?

1822
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1823
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: I did follow up on the approval.

1824
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 5: I was told the approvals. I was not to allow

1825
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 5: any more information on the approvals.

1826
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: That was it.

1827
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: But there are approval there's approval protocol.

1828
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 6: That there's approval protocol.

1829
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,480
Speaker 1: The story is pretty big, actually.

1830
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I don't sense that he did

1831
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 4: a ton of work.

1832
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: He didn't. He didn't push back at that point.

1833
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 6: That was as much as I could.

1834
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 4: That's not how a journalist to.

1835
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: Be a true journal you have to be dogged.

1836
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 4: Bro, you don't go talk.

1837
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: I did as much as I You don't accept easy answers.

1838
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: You got if you risk rubbing people.

1839
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 3: And you're such an agreeable guy, and you're such a

1840
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: nice guy show and I know you maybe don't want

1841
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 3: to people the wrong way, but sometimes you gotta unturned

1842
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 3: stones that people don't want it unturned.

1843
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 2: You could find out who this, where this person's office is,

1844
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,520
Speaker 2: and just go up. Sometimes you can get something there's

1845
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 2: not a when there's not a digital footprint. Sometimes people

1846
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: are a little more willing to give you the truth.

1847
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 2: You know, not an email.

1848
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 5: Person, the person. Take that advice. Thanks guys. More information

1849
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 5: will come when available.

1850
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: Check out Sean Kelly on social media. He's a he's

1851
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: a stand up on the rise, by the way, go

1852
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: see him in the LA area.

1853
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:33,879
Speaker 4: That's true.

1854
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, good stuff. We'll be back on

1855
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: Wednesday with more coverage of the National Football League as

1856
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 3: as football is back on Thursday. But it's the start

1857
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 3: of football being back, you guys, get it. Until then,

1858
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 3: Dan Heads a signing off or a quiet storm, the

1859
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 3: Old Boss, Eric Roberts and the Gang behind the Glass

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: Approvals, Burkey E, the call,