1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: dayba a Q, a podcast available every morning on Apple, 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Wednesday, the thirty first 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: of July in London. I'm Caroline Hepke. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. Hamas says Israel 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: has killed its political leader in an air strike inside Iran. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: The Bank of Japan hikes interest rates to a quarter 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: of one percent and cuts bond buying in a significant 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: policy shift. 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: Plus we'll have to increase taxes. Rachel Reeves concedes difficult 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: decisions are ahead in the UK's October budget. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: Hamas says Israel has killed its political leader, Ismail Hanaei 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: in Iran. Hanaye was in Tehran for the inauguration of 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Iran's new president on Tuesday. In a statement, Hamas, an 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: EU and US designated terrorist group, said he was killed 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: in an airstrike on his residence. The Israeli military declined 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: to comment. Speaking from Jerusalem, Bloomberg, Dan Williams says the 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: incident would have come as a shock. 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Hamas, really, with this unprecedented attack it's had attacks on 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: its leaders before. This would be the first time my 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: knowledge at least published of a major Hamas leader on 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: Iranian soil, and Hamas will certainly be doing its three calculations. 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: It's worth noting here that Israel so far has not 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: confirmed this attack. 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: Dan Williams speaking there. Henea was based in Katar and 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: had been a key go between in ongoing ceasefire talks 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: between Israel and Hamas. His death follows an Israeli strike 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: on Beyrout last night, targeting a senior Hizbula commander. That 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 2: attack was a response to a rocket assault that killed 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: twelve young people in the Israeli controlled Golan Heights over 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: the weekend. 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Now to Central Bank News, the Bank of Japan has 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: raised interest rates to around a quarter of one percent 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: and unveiled plans to reduce bond buying. JGB purchases will 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: be reduced by four hundred billion yen per quarter, with 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: a target of three trillion yen in the first three 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: months of twenty twenty. It shows Governor caswer away Is 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: determination to normalize policy, and it fuels speculation that one 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: more hike may be coming this year. Standard Charter's head 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: of fixed incomes trashy Man pret Gil says it's a 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: hawkish move even if markets didn't respond that way immediately. 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: These expectations have been building. But there's also the element 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: that I think the inflation forecast have been trimmed a 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: little bit. So if we're trying to explain what happening 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: in the yen, I think the combination sort of works 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: out there. But I think longer talking is really a 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: signal that ares willness to hycrits. It's going in the 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: opposite direction of most other major central banks. So for 50 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: the end, look, the short term move might very well 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 4: be a pullback, but we think we can get a 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 4: much stronger yen from here. 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Man pre Gil the discussing market reaction to the BOJ 54 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: move on inflation, the Bank of Japan notes that risks 55 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: ask you to the upside, a sign that they're seeing 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: that virtuous cycle coming through. 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: HSBC has announced a three billion dollars share buyback as 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: its latest results pasted estimates. The bank's pre tax profit 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: for the second quarter rose to eight point nine billion dollars, 60 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: more than a billion higher than expected. At going CEO 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: no Quinn told Bloomberg he was in a good mood 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: for his final earnings report in the role. 63 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: Listen, I'm pleased not only for our shareholders, were also 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: for the two hundred thousand colleagues around the world who 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: have made this possible to deliver a financial performance this strong. 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: I'm pleased with the way that they've handled the past 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 5: five years. The work they've done, the transformation, and the 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: results today are testaments of the work that they've they've 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 5: put in. 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: Quinn added the bank's future business environment will be shaped 71 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 2: by the path of interest rates and the outcomes of elections. 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Microsoft shares fell after its cloud revenue missed, disappointing investors 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: dubious about AI gains the tech chance. Cloud computing service 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: revenue rose twenty nine percent in the fourth quarter. That 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: was slower than the previous quarter and predicted to be 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: slow again next quarter. Many of Microsoft's corporate customers are 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: only just starting to use new AI assistance. CEO Satya 78 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Nadella told analysts that the company hopes that it will 79 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: turn into a big revenue flow in future. 80 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 6: Corpilot customers increased more than sixty percent quarter over quarter. 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 6: Feedback has been positive, with majority of enterprise customers coming 82 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 6: back to purchase more seats. 83 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: Nadella has been infusing Microsoft's product line with AI technology 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: from partner OpenAI. Microsoft shares fell about four percent in 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: extended trading, pairing earlier losses of as much as nine 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: point one percent. It is still twelve percent higher though 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: on the year. 88 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: The UK Chancellor says taxes will have to go up 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: in her autumn budget. Earlier this week, Rachel Reeves set 90 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: out a twenty two billion pounds shortfall in the British 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: government's finances. Speaking to John Sopel on The Newsagent's podcast, 92 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: she was asked if that made tax rises in the 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: autumn in an sevitable. 94 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 5: I think that we will have to increase taxes in 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 5: the budget. 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 6: Book, so in inheritance tax, capital gains, tax, pension reform 97 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 6: are on the cards. 98 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: Well, we will have a budget on the thirtieth of October, 99 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: and ahead of that budget we will have a forecast. 100 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: The UK Chancellor Rachel Reeves. They are on The Newsagent's podcast. 101 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: She also doubled down on the Labor Manifesto commitment of 102 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: no vaight, national insurance or income tax increases. 103 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: To US politics, Kamala Harris has wiped out Donald Trump's 104 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: poll lead in seven battleground states. A wave of enthusiasm 105 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: for the vice president has swept key regions, including Arizona 106 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: and Pennsylvania, among young, black and Hispanic voters. This according 107 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: to the latest Bloomberg polling. Now, the presumptive Democratic candidate 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: has set her sights on a debate with her Republican rival. 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 7: I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me on the 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 7: debate stage, because, as the same goes, if you got 111 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 7: something to say. 112 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris there speaking doing a campaign rally in Georgia. 113 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: The latest Bloomberg surveys shows her capturing forty eight percent 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: of voters to forty seven percent for Trump, a stronger 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: showing that the two point deficit for President Joe Biden 116 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: before he dropped out of the race. Those numbers suggest 117 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: that Harris has a shot at reassembling the voter coalition 118 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: that propelled President Barack Obama to the White House, but 119 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: the presidential race remains close across the surveyed swing states. Overall, 120 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: the gap between the candidates is within the poll's statistical 121 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: margin of era. 122 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: At least thirty nine police officers have been injured following 123 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: violent disorder in Southport, where a vigil was held to 124 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: remember three young girls killed in Monday's knife attack. Cars 125 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: were set on fire and Britain thrown at a local masque, 126 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: with protesters also heard chanting far right slogans. The Home 127 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: Secretary of Ed Cooper has been reacting. 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 6: Violent attacks from thugs on the street who show no 129 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 6: respect for a grieving community and it's a total disgrace. 130 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: Five children remain in critical condition following the stabbing. Last 131 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: night's disorder is believed to have been fueled by speculation 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: around a seventeen year old suspect currently in police custody 133 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: at the moment. We'll bring you more on that, news 134 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: of the killing of the Hamas leader in Iran, plus 135 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: more on the Bank of Japan decision as well. But 136 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: just an update on a story we've been talking about 137 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: all week from the Olympics in Paris. The triathlon will 138 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: go ahead with the swimming in the send today. There 139 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: was testing of the water at three twenty am which 140 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: determined that the water quality had improved enough to it 141 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: to take place, So the women's race will happen first 142 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: this morning at eight am, and the men's race, which 143 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: had been scheduled for yesterday, but postponed until today, will 144 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: go ahead at ten forty five am. Parastharities have spent 145 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: one point four billion euros cleaning up the sen for 146 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: this event, so that is something that will be much 147 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: anticipated by those organizing the Elms. 148 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: There was huge disappointment yesterday when it wasn't going to 149 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: go ahead, and real worries in that community of triathlons 150 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: that it would have a real dent actually on their 151 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: revenues and on their kind of I suppose fame or 152 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: what they take away from the Olympics. So there was 153 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: a lot of disappointment. 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one event that will be going ahead in 155 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Paris today. Let's bring you more now in the breaking 156 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: news this morning that Hamas says Israel has killed its 157 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: political leader Ismail hanae Na airstrike on Iran. Our Horizon's 158 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: Middle East anchor Jamana Rossetti joins us now for more. Jamana, 159 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: good morning. What do we know? 160 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 8: Yes, well, a lot of events have happened in the 161 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 8: Mid least in the last twenty four hours, but let's 162 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 8: just stick to the killing of Ismail Hanie. So early 163 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 8: this morning, Hamas announced that Israel had killed its political 164 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 8: leader Ismail Hanie in an airstrike at around two am 165 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 8: local time. Local media reporting that both he and his 166 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 8: bodyguards were killed in the attack. And hani is usually 167 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 8: based in Kutar, but he happened to be in Iran 168 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 8: for the inauguration of Iran's new president, mister Preseshkian, who 169 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 8: was accepting the inauguration yesterday. Now, per local Iranian media, 170 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 8: Iran says it's still investigating the assassination of Haniye, the 171 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 8: results to be announced soon. We have had no official 172 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 8: commentary yet from Israel regarding the air strike, but the 173 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 8: reactions from some of the regional leaders are coming through. Turkey, 174 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 8: for example, have put out statements saying they're condemning the 175 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 8: killing of Hamas's political leader, saying that the hani murder 176 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 8: aims to regionalize the war in Gaza, and the Palestinian 177 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 8: Authority President Mahmudabas has also come out with this statement 178 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 8: strongly condemning the assassination, considering it a coward lead. This 179 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 8: is a quote, a cowardly act and a dangerous development. 180 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Indeed, we're following all of these breaking news lines, 181 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: especially from the Foreign Ministry spokesman in Iran, saying that 182 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: Hania is blood will never go to waste, that the 183 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Israeli attack is being investigated by authorities, This according to Iran. 184 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: So as you say, the reaction now coming in and 185 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: the bigger picture, what might this mean for Garza cease 186 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: far talks that have been ongoing. Obviously Hanair was this 187 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: key figure, key go between what do we extrapolate from it? 188 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 8: Well, Caroline, I think there are two things that you 189 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 8: need to consider. The first is that this happened on 190 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 8: Iranian soil, So that's something to bear in mind. Given 191 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 8: the rhetoric and the increasing amount of hostility in words 192 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 8: between Israel and Iran. It wasn't that long ago that 193 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 8: we were talking about that tit for tat retaliation between 194 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 8: Iran and Israel directly, So one of the big questions 195 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 8: is whether or not Iran feels the need to respond accordingly. 196 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 8: As well, given that it is a new president today 197 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 8: is President Position Kan's first day in office, he will 198 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 8: have to think about the formulation of that response. The second, 199 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 8: to your point, is that Ismaar Hani was one of 200 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 8: the leading spokesmen on Hamas's side in these ceasefire negotiations. 201 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 8: He would have played a very active role over the 202 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 8: last couple of weeks, as we've been reporting and talking about, 203 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 8: there's been a lot of push diplomatically from the US, 204 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 8: from Cutter, from Egypt to get the ceasefire deal over 205 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 8: the line. With the absence of Ismai Heni, that raises 206 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 8: a big question about who exactly will be representing Hamas 207 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 8: and speaking on behalf of Hammas as these talks continue, 208 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 8: And whether or not these talks are going to continue 209 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 8: is a big question. We just don't know at this point. 210 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Jamana Brassechi, Horizon's Middle East an ker, thank you 211 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: very much for joining us with the latest on that story. 212 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Now, let's go to Japan next, where the central Bank 213 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: has raised interest rates by fifteen basis points to a 214 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: quarter of one percent. It has also cut its bond 215 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: buying program in half over the next couple of years. 216 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's a Paul Jackson, who leads our team of economists 217 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: and government reporters in Japan, joins us now from Tokyo. 218 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: Good morning, Paul, Good to have you on the program. 219 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: Markets had been expecting a hike from the Bank of 220 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: Japan or there there'd been some uncertainty. Talk us through 221 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: the details of the decision. 222 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 9: Well, I think in the run up to today's decision 223 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 9: that been a kind of split view among markets and 224 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 9: economists about whether they would go ahead with the rate 225 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 9: hike or not. And I think really the centers on 226 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 9: the idea is of Governor Uda. Is he Governor auDA 227 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 9: the economist or is he Governor Huda the normalizer of policy? 228 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 9: And let's face it, Japan's policy has been out on 229 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 9: the experimental fringes of global central bank policy making. Over 230 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 9: the years, all kinds of experimental measures have been in use. 231 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 9: And since Uida took the helm last year, he's been 232 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 9: leading a march back to normality and this is the 233 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 9: latest example of that. And he hasn't just done one 234 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 9: thing today, He's done two things. Both the cutting of 235 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 9: the bond program, which I would say is largely in 236 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 9: line with expectations, the initial pace perhaps a bit slower, 237 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 9: reaching the destination of three trillion a little bit faster 238 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 9: than expected, and then the rate ig. We did have 239 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 9: some local media reports overnight suggesting that the rate ig 240 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 9: was in the work, so I think by the time 241 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 9: we got to the decision this morning, I think the 242 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 9: scales had tipped in favor of a rateyke. Coming. 243 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: We also got new inflation and GDP projections from the 244 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: Bank of Japan as well. What do they tell us 245 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: about the path ahead for the Japanese economy and the 246 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: hints of what happens to rates next. 247 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 9: Well, I think those forecasts really keep us on the 248 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 9: path of further interest rate hikes because inflation is seen 249 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 9: staying around two percent over the coming years. We did 250 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 9: see a slight bumping down of the forecast for this 251 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 9: fiscal year. That's because government energy subsidies are going to 252 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 9: be reintroduced, so that's going to obviously bring the inflation 253 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 9: rate down a little bit this year, and then consequently 254 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 9: when they stop next year, the inflation will go up 255 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 9: a bit. But you know, putting the technicalities to one side, 256 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 9: essentially we are over the boj's two percent target or 257 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 9: around there for the next three years or so. So 258 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 9: the BOJ said if the forecasts, if the forecast materialized 259 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 9: as expected, it can keep raising interest rates. So I 260 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 9: think there's more to come, and this double move today 261 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 9: suggests that Uida is very much interested in getting back 262 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 9: to normality. 263 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 264 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: stories making news from London. 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