Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. We are so excited to be back.
Speaker 1: How are you doing Today's is this?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fabulous at a house ful yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you know you entertained more than anyone
Speaker 1: I know. Well I'm home, Yeah, well this is true.
Speaker 1: And when I'm home I just want to sit in
Speaker 1: front of the TV and watch Netflix a needle point.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I want to. I'm
Speaker 1: getting ready to travel again. Do you want to travel
Speaker 1: some more?
Speaker 2: I think I am. Actually yes, I'm going to be
Speaker 2: traveling through September. It's been a great summer. Although I
Speaker 2: hardly got to use the pool. I clean it. I
Speaker 2: actually got in it this weekend with my granddaughter. But today,
Speaker 2: of course, we're going to be answering more of our
Speaker 2: fan questions and make sure you keep them coming because
Speaker 2: we love this. You know what to do. Just go
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Speaker 2: because that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta have questions. Susan and I have
Speaker 1: been traveling. We took cruises, Susan's had her mister wonderful
Speaker 1: visiting her. You know, I'm off to Canada.
Speaker 2: I mean time Kathy in the United States.
Speaker 1: You know, come on, people, you must have questions or
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Speaker 1: to send them all to us. It's very easy. You
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Speaker 1: or you can go to Bachelor nation dot com. Let's go.
Speaker 1: You can do it.
Speaker 2: Good. Yes, we look forward to it. Okay, time to
Speaker 2: get into the episode, and we're going to start with
Speaker 2: the question of the day. What advice do you have
Speaker 2: two people that have been in a long term relationship
Speaker 2: since they were very young and are starting to wonder
Speaker 2: if they need to explore.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what the operative word in that
Speaker 1: question is relationship? Because you know, I was married out
Speaker 1: of the cradle. You're a person, get the right person.
Speaker 1: I was married. My birthday is May ninth, and I
Speaker 1: was married May nineteenth, and I had my twentieth birthday,
Speaker 1: so ten days after I turned twenty, I got married.
Speaker 1: And I was married for almost forty six years. So
Speaker 1: were there times in my life that I thought, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I was so young to get married. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I believed in my marriage and loved my husband.
Speaker 1: So you know, I you.
Speaker 2: Were very very fortunate. I was. Relationships that start out
Speaker 2: and they think they're getting married after college. They made
Speaker 2: it through college, and a lot of times they don't.
Speaker 2: As they mature, they find their separate ways. Unfortunately, you
Speaker 2: are very very lucky today's world. I don't think as
Speaker 2: many that started very young making.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess I agree with that. I
Speaker 1: sometimes it can be aged, sometimes it can be other circumstances.
Speaker 2: But I do think with your advice to somebody young,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: You're asked you and I've actually talked about. Isn't it
Speaker 1: funny that you and I that's how well we know
Speaker 1: each other. We've talked about some of these things. When
Speaker 1: young people tell me that they're moving in together to me,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm going to sound old. When they
Speaker 1: move in together, theoretically they're sharing the bills, they're sharing experiences,
Speaker 1: they're not dating other people. They're monogamous, or they've agreed
Speaker 1: to not be monogamous, whatever it is. It's it's almost
Speaker 1: like a committed marriage or a committed relationship.
Speaker 2: Oh, it is.
Speaker 1: It is right.
Speaker 2: Some people like to try before they take.
Speaker 1: Don't you think it's just as hard to get out
Speaker 1: of that relationship as it is to get out of
Speaker 1: a marriage.
Speaker 2: I mean, probably yes, But a lot of people don't
Speaker 2: agree with people living together before they get married. And
Speaker 2: that's going back in time too. But I think it's
Speaker 2: important that you see how they live while living together.
Speaker 2: Some things might be deal breakers anybody.
Speaker 1: I think it's I agree, Susan. But I guess what
Speaker 1: I'm asking you is I was married, So I can't
Speaker 1: answer this question. I don't think and you were married.
Speaker 1: I don't think you lived with anyone. But if you're
Speaker 1: living with someone and let's just say you've lived them
Speaker 1: for a year and a half, I think it would
Speaker 1: be almost as difficult to get your friends together and say, hey,
Speaker 1: guess what, Johnny and I are splitting up. It's like
Speaker 1: a breakup of a marriage. It's shooting a house. Who
Speaker 1: gets the dog?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big one too. But what there is
Speaker 2: do they need to explore? Are we going to advise
Speaker 2: people that have only been with one person to explore
Speaker 2: before committing Yeah? I am, and you didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: Why do you feel that way?
Speaker 1: Because I think you know hindsight's twenty twenty. I was
Speaker 1: very lucky with Darryl. He was kind, he was a
Speaker 1: smarty given.
Speaker 2: But you're advising.
Speaker 1: Because I just said because I was very lucky. I
Speaker 1: think people mature and change so much in their twenties.
Speaker 1: You know, I used to be I used to work
Speaker 1: in the middle school, and I used to say, of
Speaker 1: the fifth gradeers that were trying to figure out a
Speaker 1: high school for their kids, I said, listen, the kids
Speaker 1: you have in fifth grade, you're not even going to
Speaker 1: recognize that kid in eighth grade, because that's how much
Speaker 1: they change in middle school. It's the same thing I
Speaker 1: feel about people they get into relationships in their twenties,
Speaker 1: especially change.
Speaker 2: Men mature later than women.
Speaker 1: I think women change a lot too. They people, They
Speaker 1: their career goals, their aspirations, their interests, their desire to travel,
Speaker 1: the their desire to try on new personalities and new
Speaker 1: ways of living. So much changes in the twenties. I
Speaker 1: don't think people know who they are really until they're
Speaker 1: close to thirty.
Speaker 2: But if they've already in a long term relationship since
Speaker 2: they've been younger and starting to wonder if they need
Speaker 2: their starting to wonder if somebody's starting to wonder if
Speaker 2: she should explore more things prior to before this big
Speaker 2: day comes that you say I do. Then if they're
Speaker 2: already thinking that, I would think, yes. Oh, you know
Speaker 2: how some people go to college, Kathy, and they were
Speaker 2: together all through high school and they separate through college.
Speaker 2: They'll see each other when they come home, but they're
Speaker 2: allowed to date other people. That's, you know, exploring. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I could have handled that, but that's
Speaker 2: when you find out is he really the one? You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think you have to kiss a lot of frogs,
Speaker 1: try it a lot outfits, you know, use any the
Speaker 1: expression you want. I think it's very rare that someone
Speaker 1: gets it right when they're twenty two years of age.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, late twenties, twenty six, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty eight, you start to know who you are, but
Speaker 1: not when you're twenty twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 2: And don't you agree, nowadays it is much later than
Speaker 2: it was when we were young.
Speaker 1: You know. And why do you think that is?
Speaker 2: They're smarter?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 2: Probably because they're education so expensive you can't afford you
Speaker 2: got to pay. You're still at your mother's at thirty
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I think that's partly it. I also think that people
Speaker 1: have the resources to travel more, change jobs more. We're
Speaker 1: just a much more mobile, more mobile society. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't marry the guy from your hometown too much
Speaker 1: anymore because you're out seeing the world. I think that
Speaker 1: all of those things contribute to making a person not
Speaker 1: necessarily ready.
Speaker 2: My advice, I wouldn't want you to cheat on your man,
Speaker 2: but you should have had other relationships and you compare
Speaker 2: how they make you feel, how happy you are with
Speaker 2: this one or this one. Just like our show when
Speaker 2: we did The Bachelor, how does that person feel when
Speaker 2: they're with this one or they're with this one and
Speaker 2: coming down to that big decision might be the hardest
Speaker 2: thing they've ever had to do.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you said that. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: It's funny you just said that, Susan, because there's actually
Speaker 1: it's sort of like an equal equation people in their
Speaker 1: early years, you know, let's call it twenty to thirty.
Speaker 1: I think should try on a lot of different relationships
Speaker 1: and a lot of different experiences. And you know what
Speaker 1: I think, when you're dating, let's call it fifty five
Speaker 1: sixty and over the same thing. Don't jump into the
Speaker 1: first relationship. If you're divorced or a widow or widower,
Speaker 1: you know, try on, you've changed since you were in
Speaker 1: that permanent relationship. Trying, I mean, that is the question
Speaker 1: of the day. But it just made me think.
Speaker 2: Of things that were so important to you might have
Speaker 2: changed for sure. That's right, you know, that's right.
Speaker 1: All right? Are you ready to get in some fan questions? Here?
Speaker 1: Let's do it? All right, here we go. Here's the
Speaker 1: first one. It's from anonymous ladies. I am so angry
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know what to do. This past
Speaker 1: weekend was my best friend's wedding, let's call her Amy.
Speaker 1: As we were all standing there listening to Amy's vows,
Speaker 1: there was not a dry eye in the place. It
Speaker 1: was so beautiful. Her now husband, however, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the most crude, horrid thing I've ever heard of, making
Speaker 1: sex jokes, talking about how we'll still love her even
Speaker 1: when she quote goes downhill, et cetera. No one laughed
Speaker 1: except for the groom's dad. Everyone else did that very
Speaker 1: uncomfortable laugh to fill the painful silence. Now she's married
Speaker 1: and on her honeymoon. You guys know how weddings go.
Speaker 1: She was so busy, we didn't have time to sit
Speaker 1: and talk, so I have no idea how she feels.
Speaker 1: Can I bring this up the next time I see her?
Speaker 1: What do I do? I'm so angry for her. I've
Speaker 1: never seen this kind of behavior in him. Thanks, ladies.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think she knew who she
Speaker 2: was marrying. I mean, that wasn't the first time he
Speaker 2: was sarcastic or crude or rude. And maybe she took
Speaker 2: it funny. You know, he did say even when she
Speaker 2: goes downhill that he'd still love her like that was
Speaker 2: just his humor. I get it that the audience was
Speaker 2: not in favor of this, except for his father, who
Speaker 2: shares the same humor.
Speaker 1: I guess, you know.
Speaker 2: As far as bringing it up, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know. If she wants to talk about it, then fine,
Speaker 2: you can let her know.
Speaker 1: But Susan, wait, did you just hear that? What the
Speaker 1: world just cracked? Why? Because we agreed? Oh? I absolutely?
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Seriously, I'm so angry
Speaker 1: for her, sweetheart, Anonymous, you don't get to be angry
Speaker 1: for her for her hermit, it's not her, it's her
Speaker 1: If she's not angry mazel toks. Let her live her life,
Speaker 1: you live yours. Don't worry about it. You know, if
Speaker 1: Susan's exactly right, if she brings it up and says,
Speaker 1: what the hell was wrong with that guy? You could say,
Speaker 1: I know, wasn't it terrible? You can pour each other
Speaker 1: a big glass of wine and commiserate that she married
Speaker 1: this fool who speaks crassly to his wife, his now wife.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if it were my friends, yeah, let's say,
Speaker 2: were you okay with that? Like? I thought it was
Speaker 2: funny because we know and love him, but.
Speaker 3: Okay, if the world just got to say together, if
Speaker 3: you had to say something and it's your best friend, no,
Speaker 3: that was pretty funny, make light of it.
Speaker 1: I would say, Susan, if you got married and your
Speaker 1: now husband made a really crass thing, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'd be sitting This is the thing people think.
Speaker 2: You know me, He wouldn't not because I would have
Speaker 2: called him.
Speaker 1: On it right then and there. You're right, But but
Speaker 1: just just in you know, generically a friend, let's say
Speaker 1: I would I probably would feel very sorry for my
Speaker 1: friend for the embarrassment that I would feel. But you
Speaker 1: know what that would be the embarrassment I'm feeling, not
Speaker 1: necessarily the embarrassment she's feeling. And if everyone in the
Speaker 1: room was embarrassed, so be it. The point is she's
Speaker 1: now married. If she brings it up, if you, if
Speaker 1: this happened to you or Nancy or Joan or anyone,
Speaker 1: and they brought it up to me, then I shall say,
Speaker 1: we talk about it, and I would take my lead
Speaker 1: from them. If they were upset about it, you know,
Speaker 1: then I.
Speaker 2: Was asking us, do I bring it up?
Speaker 1: No? You do not. Let's say it together, Susan.
Speaker 2: No, No, stay in your own lane, in your own girl.
Speaker 2: I love it how you do say something, or or
Speaker 2: if your best friend says something really curious to see.
Speaker 2: And even the bride's mother, like I would love to
Speaker 2: know her thoughts.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Because she used to the guy too.
Speaker 1: But when she comes back from her honeymoon, you know,
Speaker 1: don't ask her about the sex and how many times
Speaker 1: a day they had it. Wait for her to tell
Speaker 1: you about the wedding, because if she was upset, she's
Speaker 1: going to get down to it.
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely send us to d M. Please, I mean,
Speaker 2: even we want, don't do it on air. We're just curious.
Speaker 1: Yeah we will. If you don't want us to report back,
Speaker 1: we won't, but just we want to know for our
Speaker 1: inquiring minds want to know. We do.
Speaker 2: And thanks for writing into us. That was really a
Speaker 2: good one. All right, we have one more, Kathy Anonymous
Speaker 2: rights ladies. I need your help. My boyfriend cannot get
Speaker 2: a good picture of me to save his life. What
Speaker 2: do I do? I really don't want to sound like
Speaker 2: a diva when I talk to him, but.
Speaker 4: The picks he gets are policle. We have so many
Speaker 4: trips lined up for the rest of the year and
Speaker 4: I want those few picks.
Speaker 2: How can I get him to do this for me
Speaker 2: without sounding annoying? He has little to no social media presence,
Speaker 2: so he doesn't really get it. I'm not worried about
Speaker 2: him judging me. I just feel a little weird bringing
Speaker 2: this up. Lol. Thanks ladies, Well why do you feel
Speaker 2: weird if he can't? What is he doing wrong with
Speaker 2: the pictures? Like teach him, educate the man, or go
Speaker 2: buy a selfie stick.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you know what my answer to this is.
Speaker 1: I knew that's where you're going to go. Because all
Speaker 1: for those of you when Susan and I recently were
Speaker 1: on a cruise. You know, we're sitting there, I'm studying
Speaker 1: the acropolist. Susan's turning her head the perfect way to
Speaker 1: get the perfect picture, and you know, angling her body. Whatever.
Speaker 1: Here's my answer, I think you are making a huge mistake. Girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the time, live in the moment with your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Who cares if it's a perfect pick. Have the perfect
Speaker 1: experience with your boyfriend. Those memories are going to live
Speaker 1: in your heart and your mind a lot longer than
Speaker 1: the perfect angle standing in front cupping the sunset. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I do, I do? But if she has a job
Speaker 2: or something in her career that she needs these picks.
Speaker 1: Befo, she don't say that. I think she's a social
Speaker 1: media like so many people today who live their lives
Speaker 1: are what they depict of themselves on social.
Speaker 2: Seeing my social media pages, a lot of ugly picks
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: I know. But you on our recent trips and you
Speaker 1: took a c upload of pictures. People would Susan will say,
Speaker 1: take another one, take another one. I'd say take one
Speaker 1: and I'm done, Like I just want to right, You're like,
Speaker 1: how do I stand? But for one picture. I don't
Speaker 1: need a hundred pictures. But I think it's everyone to themselves,
Speaker 1: each to them change to their.
Speaker 2: Own I not having the pictures. I hear what she's saying.
Speaker 1: I do too, But I would encourage her to think
Speaker 1: about enjoying the time with your boyfriend, making the memories
Speaker 1: in person and lodging those in your brain. And I
Speaker 1: know it's a thing now, everyone wants the perfect social
Speaker 1: media pages and all that.
Speaker 2: I just what she's saying. Okay, she feels a little
Speaker 2: weird about bringing it up. Obviously it is something to her.
Speaker 2: So what she needs from us.
Speaker 1: She needs to teach them. You're right, Yes, you sit
Speaker 1: there like like Susan will say to me, don't.
Speaker 2: Stand yourself in the square. You get the feet and
Speaker 2: the head and center.
Speaker 1: And then tilt the camera. This one, you tilt the
Speaker 1: You know what. He here's one for you. If he
Speaker 1: has an iPhone, he can take a class at the
Speaker 1: local Apple store in using his iPhone there. And I
Speaker 1: want a new Apple phone for this advertisement. But seriously,
Speaker 1: you can take free classes at your at an Apple
Speaker 1: store and they'll tell you how to make the most
Speaker 1: of your iPhone and how to take the best pictures.
Speaker 2: As you know, we had to film certain things. When
Speaker 2: we do things and you get the new self it's
Speaker 2: not just a selfie stick like back in the day.
Speaker 2: There's so much out there. You set it up, you
Speaker 2: get your pictures done, and then stop, get it over
Speaker 2: with and then go enjoy your time with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I'm just making the point. Some
Speaker 1: people prefer to have the perfect pictures, and I'd prefer
Speaker 1: to have the perfect experience. That's all. And so, but
Speaker 1: I hear you, Anonymous, and I think you need to
Speaker 1: teach him. He can research it online, he can google it,
Speaker 1: he can there's all kinds of ways to learn to
Speaker 1: be a better picture taker. But if he's like me,
Speaker 1: you know what he's going to say, Yeah, it's good enough.
Speaker 1: And you know what, is it a deal breaker for you? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I hope not, No, I hope, But you know, the
Speaker 1: best trips with your boyfriend. I hope you have the
Speaker 1: best trips. I envy those trips coming up.
Speaker 2: And Kathy, you know what, I you delete that one.
Speaker 2: You're not going to put a bad one. You get it.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about those things. She's wants a good picture.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. But I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to get her to enjoy the trips.
Speaker 2: And I know, I know, but definitely to teach him
Speaker 2: what he's doing wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's all. Yeah, let us know, have fun on
Speaker 1: those trips. Send us photographs, send us you know, we
Speaker 1: want to hear all about those trips. Okay, we're going
Speaker 1: to move into our Golden spotlight, where we just discuss
Speaker 1: something that is affecting the Golden community. Today's Golden spotlight
Speaker 1: is all about agism, something I know a lot about.
Speaker 1: There are so many stereotypes and judgments that young people
Speaker 1: knowingly and unknowingly throw at golden's. What are some of
Speaker 1: those things that you pick up on? How do they
Speaker 1: make you feel? How did you handle moments of agism now?
Speaker 1: And what would you say to those that are ages?
Speaker 1: I got to give one right off the bat. When
Speaker 1: I was filming Bachelor in Paradise. Constantly the young ones
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, go whatever with me. They're like,
Speaker 1: be careful, you know, if the deck is wet, be careful.
Speaker 1: Can I help you into the pool, Like get your
Speaker 1: hands off me. Uh. You know, it was constant, like
Speaker 1: we have to be careful of the older ones, you know.
Speaker 2: Because I think that's a nice thing, though, because.
Speaker 1: Why are they looking out, Susan.
Speaker 2: Why because we're older.
Speaker 1: That's agism. You look out for everyone's safe.
Speaker 2: So you would prefer people not to the door for you.
Speaker 1: No, that's different. That's no. One is chivalry when you
Speaker 1: if it. If the deck is slippery, and and you've
Speaker 1: got young ones and old ones getting on a boat okay,
Speaker 1: or walking through the bar, and it's been raining, so
Speaker 1: the deck around the pool is slippery, it's wet. If
Speaker 1: you have people holding your arm, be careful, Susan, it's slippery.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks, And the twenty four year old is right
Speaker 1: behind you walking, No one's offering her hand.
Speaker 2: That is age to appreciate it.
Speaker 1: It's not a matter whether you appreciate it. It's agism.
Speaker 1: It's treating you differently because of your age, but in.
Speaker 2: A good way.
Speaker 1: Not to me.
Speaker 2: Well, not everybody's as strong and as healthy as you are,
Speaker 2: so you keep an open mind with most people. I
Speaker 2: don't feel like i'm that that old yet, but I
Speaker 2: know from my grandmother and her people, Yes I went
Speaker 2: out of my way to make sure they didn't trip
Speaker 2: or fall or be.
Speaker 1: Okay, So give me some other stereotypes. What are some
Speaker 1: other stereotypes that you think of for older people?
Speaker 2: They don't know what's going on today because of social
Speaker 2: media and AI and so on something.
Speaker 1: In other words, you're saying young people or people think
Speaker 1: that older people don't know how to use social media
Speaker 1: because they're old.
Speaker 2: And a lot of times we don't a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't.
Speaker 1: But it's ever okay. But the agism, let me just
Speaker 1: be clear. Agism is when you make an assumption based
Speaker 1: on someone's age. Age, So you make an assumption that
Speaker 1: they can't walk on a slippery deck because they're older.
Speaker 1: You make an assumption that they don't understand modern technology
Speaker 1: because they're older, they didn't grow up with it. That's agism,
Speaker 1: and I hate it.
Speaker 2: You do, I see. I don't take it as an
Speaker 2: offensive thing for some reason. I just don't. I think
Speaker 2: it's nice that you were brought up well enough to
Speaker 2: know that if I'm your elder, you're going to pause
Speaker 2: and let me go first, or you're going to say
Speaker 2: be careful, it's wet, or you're going to say, can
Speaker 2: I hold the door for you to me? I'm not
Speaker 2: walking out, you know what.
Speaker 1: I want everyone to be safe, hold the door for everyone.
Speaker 1: Tell everyone the deck is slippery. You're only doing it
Speaker 1: for older people. That's agism.
Speaker 2: How does it make you feel?
Speaker 1: I don't like agism at all. I think you know
Speaker 1: what other examples? How about not hiring you for a job. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're sixty years old. You can't possibly Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you again. On Bachelor in Paradise, I was out
Speaker 1: there working out with Leslie. Leslie's a few years younger
Speaker 1: than I am. We were on the beach doing pushups.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many young girls I saw out?
Speaker 1: They're working out, and you know what the guys said.
Speaker 1: Can I just talk about the bods on those guys,
Speaker 1: but the girls, but the guys lifting weights? They all
Speaker 1: said to Leslie and mey, wow, you guys are really fit.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you can do full push ups. And
Speaker 1: you could add on to that at your age.
Speaker 2: That's ages age because they said that, because it's you're older,
Speaker 2: they don't expect you to do what you used to
Speaker 2: be able to do.
Speaker 1: And I know I can't, but it's it's having expectations
Speaker 1: based on your age. You can't do a job.
Speaker 2: Susan, Yes, that part, I get that part hit tone
Speaker 2: because some people are still like yourself, got that you're
Speaker 2: better shape than some thirty year olds. I know, how
Speaker 2: dare you assume that she won't be able to do
Speaker 2: it because of the number that she.
Speaker 1: Is exactly one of the things we were doing, I'm
Speaker 1: about There were lots of things we were doing, and
Speaker 1: it was they were giving me a head start because
Speaker 1: they thought I was stupid, because I thought I was older.
Speaker 1: I left them in the dirt.
Speaker 2: I know this.
Speaker 1: I left them in there and they're like you to get.
Speaker 2: Them ahead start and still one.
Speaker 1: They were like, wow, you're a fast run uh huh, yes,
Speaker 1: I am. Wow, you can swim, Yes, I can. Like
Speaker 1: that to me is ages and people. That's why again
Speaker 1: you see you get me this. This is hot literally
Speaker 1: a hot topic for me. Men saying that they want
Speaker 1: to date women who are, you know, between sixty and
Speaker 1: sixty three because of a number, Because of the number,
Speaker 1: try me, you are judge me based on my calendar date.
Speaker 1: I will outrun you, out swim you out anything you Uh,
Speaker 1: I'll be You know, you might be ten years younger
Speaker 1: than half are an exception to the rule. But I
Speaker 1: mean it's still agism, Yes it is. Yes, it is,
Speaker 1: and I hate it so and You're right, I realized
Speaker 1: that not everyone is healthy. Uh, Susan Carr. Tell the
Speaker 1: story about you dragging the suitcases through the through the airport.
Speaker 1: Susan was dying. She had to have forty people help her.
Speaker 1: I mean, and.
Speaker 2: Again, I also had three suitcases.
Speaker 1: Exactly. But I'm just saying people offered to help you
Speaker 1: because of your.
Speaker 2: Age, and I'm so grateful. I was so grateful.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to take heat for this. Do you
Speaker 1: remember what I said? What when I was when I
Speaker 1: was getting crazy because I wanted to make sure we're
Speaker 1: getting to the airport on time.
Speaker 2: Kathy, Wait, you gotta know, okay, no matter airport in
Speaker 2: my mosque, she's forty feet ahead of me. She just
Speaker 2: leaves you in the dust. She's on her way, like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, role now in the mosque.
Speaker 1: I took my time. You and I just got lost together.
Speaker 1: But let me just say it is it is? Uh,
Speaker 1: I said to Susan, because I got frustrated because she
Speaker 1: could she couldn't keep up because she was.
Speaker 2: Mind you, how busy the Athens airport it is, but
Speaker 2: so unorganized.
Speaker 1: We can't even go there. That's a whole other podcast.
Speaker 1: But I said to Susan turned around and looked at
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, Susan, because Suan, let
Speaker 1: me just say, Susan packs for you know, I might
Speaker 1: wear this shoes or might wear those shoes. She has events,
Speaker 1: she has options out out the ying, yank everything. What
Speaker 1: did I tell you? I said, do not pack more
Speaker 1: than you can carry the next time, because I'm not
Speaker 1: helping you. Next time, bring what you can carry. And
Speaker 1: we're holding to that. We're holding to that. How do
Speaker 1: we get off of agism?
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I took it like, not
Speaker 2: as in the negative sense. But when you talk about
Speaker 2: a job or they're judging because of your age, where
Speaker 2: you won't get a job because of your age, then yes,
Speaker 2: I feel or.
Speaker 1: Men won't date you because of your age. All those
Speaker 1: ageism is.
Speaker 2: Never what causes people to lie about their age.
Speaker 1: That's right, Susan. Just in my opinion. I mean, we
Speaker 1: can you know, please let us know if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Agism isn't it never a good thing? Agism always has
Speaker 1: a pejorative meaning. It's never a good thing. If you
Speaker 1: if you bring up the word agism, it's not good.
Speaker 2: Right, did you ever feel on the ship that we
Speaker 2: were on. What would your answer be when they say, well,
Speaker 2: how old were they? I would say from thirties. There
Speaker 2: was a few younger, but most of the people were
Speaker 2: mid thirties, forties our age and up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think we met one guy that was twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Most people in their thirties. And do you remember what
Speaker 1: they all speaking of agism? Do you remember they said, Wow,
Speaker 1: you guys can really party, you can really hang Wait
Speaker 1: woulch Did you ever hear them say that to another
Speaker 1: thirty year old?
Speaker 2: No, I said, did they? Because they're young.
Speaker 1: That's called agism.
Speaker 2: They said it to us customer as a bad thing,
Speaker 2: that we're surprised that we do as good as we do.
Speaker 1: That's right. I'm right, that's right, and I take it
Speaker 1: upon myself daily to prove people wrong. And so do you, Susan.
Speaker 1: You look and act younger than your age, and so
Speaker 1: do I. And I'm proud of number.
Speaker 2: Do we not agree on that? It's just a number.
Speaker 2: Not everybody ages the same. I know I can't do
Speaker 2: what I used to do. And a lot of things,
Speaker 2: you mean, like.
Speaker 1: Carry three pieces of luggage through the airport. I mean
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: I probably never could do that, Bute. No, I'm smart.
Speaker 2: I get my charge card out and I get the wheels,
Speaker 2: you know, the big push card.
Speaker 1: Oh that's the other funny thing.
Speaker 2: Wait, have it When I had to go to the
Speaker 2: bathroom and I was waiting on you, I had to
Speaker 2: wait three and a half hours for her to land
Speaker 2: after flying coach, mind you for nine and a half hours.
Speaker 2: Then I have to wait in an airport for three
Speaker 2: and a half hours and I had to go potty.
Speaker 2: Here I am with this cart with my luggage. At
Speaker 2: that point it was only two pieces and it wouldn't
Speaker 2: fit into the bathroom. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: what am I going to do? I have to pee
Speaker 2: this kind woman, I'm trying to get it in. I
Speaker 2: was pushing. I waited in line. I'm pushing and she goes,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to make it. I said,
Speaker 2: I don't either, but I really have to go. She goes,
Speaker 2: I will wait.
Speaker 1: So much wait, wait, we have we're running out of
Speaker 1: time here, but we have so many bad We were
Speaker 1: in the park in Istanbul, Do you remember that? And
Speaker 1: Susan had the bathroom. That's what I'm talking about. Susan
Speaker 1: had to go to the bathroom so badly. You have
Speaker 1: to pay. It's just a small, you know, small coin.
Speaker 1: It comes up to like five cents. Go to a dodge.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't accept it.
Speaker 1: So this guy comes up. Long story short, this guy
Speaker 1: comes up, puts his card and you can use these
Speaker 1: credit cards to go to the bathroom. And Susan goes in.
Speaker 1: And there's two bathrooms and one if you fall us
Speaker 1: on Instagram. By the way, it's on Instagram. I'm going
Speaker 1: to repost it, Susan. It's so damn funny. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna repost it today. There are two doors. One
Speaker 1: has a picture of a toilet on it that's very clear.
Speaker 1: The other picture has it looks like an oval with
Speaker 1: a hole in the middle.
Speaker 2: When you open the door, you're running in here. Now
Speaker 2: keep in mind you think I'm looking at pictures on
Speaker 2: the door. It was about to come down my legs. People.
Speaker 2: I did not care. I would have went in public.
Speaker 2: It's literally in the first door.
Speaker 1: Which is the hole in the ground. And she and
Speaker 1: I go in the and I come out and I
Speaker 1: said to and goes oh, my god, that was the
Speaker 1: worst experience of what are you talking about? She goes,
Speaker 1: I had to crouch down and pie in a hole.
Speaker 1: I said, what are you taing? So, of course Kathy
Speaker 1: astoct I looked at her like, didn't you us? So
Speaker 1: I go back in and investigate, and I took a
Speaker 1: video of it, and it's I'm putting it back up
Speaker 1: Today's Susan on my Do you know what?
Speaker 2: I assumed you had the same because when I was
Speaker 2: in Paris and Secular cur I'll never forget paying my
Speaker 2: two coins to go to the bathroom and this was
Speaker 2: a dirt hole. This one we went in a tile.
Speaker 2: It was very.
Speaker 1: Clean, it was a whole people, It was hard, it was.
Speaker 2: Still a hole in the ground was beautiful on top.
Speaker 2: The one in Paris not so much. It was dirt.
Speaker 2: And I looked at my husband at the time, I said, Dicky,
Speaker 2: do you know I just paid to pee on the ground.
Speaker 1: If you could have seen her face, We're gonna end
Speaker 1: it with this one. If you could have seen Susan's
Speaker 1: face when we came out of that bathroom, she goes,
Speaker 1: I can't believe it was just like France had to
Speaker 1: pee in a hole I said. I looked at I said,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? It was all said, I said,
Speaker 1: I peed in a toy. She goes, no, you didn't.
Speaker 1: This is the stuff that we get into when we're
Speaker 1: traveling as people as people, uh not up. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: really had a plast all.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, well that does it. And that was a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. Yat just reminiscent. I'm still living. But
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