1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: much for joining us. We are so excited to be back. 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing Today's is this? 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: I'm doing fabulous at a house ful yesterday. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you know you entertained more than anyone 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: I know. Well I'm home, Yeah, well this is true. 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: And when I'm home I just want to sit in 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: front of the TV and watch Netflix a needle point. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I want to. I'm 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: getting ready to travel again. Do you want to travel 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: some more? 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: I think I am. Actually yes, I'm going to be 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: traveling through September. It's been a great summer. Although I 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: hardly got to use the pool. I clean it. I 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: actually got in it this weekend with my granddaughter. But today, 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: of course, we're going to be answering more of our 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: fan questions and make sure you keep them coming because 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: we love this. You know what to do. Just go 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: to Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour and submit away 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: because that's what we're here for. 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta have questions. Susan and I have 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: been traveling. We took cruises, Susan's had her mister wonderful 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: visiting her. You know, I'm off to Canada. 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: I mean time Kathy in the United States. 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, come on, people, you must have questions or 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: comments about this, and since you do, we want you 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: to send them all to us. It's very easy. You 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: can either dm us on Instagram a Bachelor Happy Hour, 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: or you can go to Bachelor nation dot com. Let's go. 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: You can do it. 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: Good. Yes, we look forward to it. Okay, time to 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: get into the episode, and we're going to start with 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: the question of the day. What advice do you have 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: two people that have been in a long term relationship 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: since they were very young and are starting to wonder 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: if they need to explore. 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: Can I tell you what the operative word in that 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: question is relationship? Because you know, I was married out 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: of the cradle. You're a person, get the right person. 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: I was married. My birthday is May ninth, and I 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: was married May nineteenth, and I had my twentieth birthday, 42 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: so ten days after I turned twenty, I got married. 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: And I was married for almost forty six years. So 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: were there times in my life that I thought, oh 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: my god, I was so young to get married. Yes, 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: but I believed in my marriage and loved my husband. 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: So you know, I you. 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: Were very very fortunate. I was. Relationships that start out 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: and they think they're getting married after college. They made 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: it through college, and a lot of times they don't. 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: As they mature, they find their separate ways. Unfortunately, you 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: are very very lucky today's world. I don't think as 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: many that started very young making. 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess I agree with that. I 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: sometimes it can be aged, sometimes it can be other circumstances. 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: But I do think with your advice to somebody young, 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: you know. 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: You're asked you and I've actually talked about. Isn't it 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: funny that you and I that's how well we know 60 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: each other. We've talked about some of these things. When 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: young people tell me that they're moving in together to me, 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: and I know I'm going to sound old. When they 63 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: move in together, theoretically they're sharing the bills, they're sharing experiences, 64 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: they're not dating other people. They're monogamous, or they've agreed 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: to not be monogamous, whatever it is. It's it's almost 66 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: like a committed marriage or a committed relationship. 67 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh, it is. 68 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: It is right. 69 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Some people like to try before they take. 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Don't you think it's just as hard to get out 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: of that relationship as it is to get out of 72 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: a marriage. 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: I mean, probably yes, But a lot of people don't 74 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: agree with people living together before they get married. And 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: that's going back in time too. But I think it's 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: important that you see how they live while living together. 77 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Some things might be deal breakers anybody. 78 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: I think it's I agree, Susan. But I guess what 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm asking you is I was married, So I can't 80 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: answer this question. I don't think and you were married. 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: I don't think you lived with anyone. But if you're 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: living with someone and let's just say you've lived them 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: for a year and a half, I think it would 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: be almost as difficult to get your friends together and say, hey, 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: guess what, Johnny and I are splitting up. It's like 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: a breakup of a marriage. It's shooting a house. Who 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: gets the dog? 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big one too. But what there is 89 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: do they need to explore? Are we going to advise 90 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: people that have only been with one person to explore 91 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: before committing Yeah? I am, and you didn't. 92 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: I didn't. 93 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 2: Why do you feel that way? 94 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: Because I think you know hindsight's twenty twenty. I was 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: very lucky with Darryl. He was kind, he was a 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: smarty given. 97 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 2: But you're advising. 98 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: Because I just said because I was very lucky. I 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: think people mature and change so much in their twenties. 100 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: You know, I used to be I used to work 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: in the middle school, and I used to say, of 102 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: the fifth gradeers that were trying to figure out a 103 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: high school for their kids, I said, listen, the kids 104 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: you have in fifth grade, you're not even going to 105 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: recognize that kid in eighth grade, because that's how much 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: they change in middle school. It's the same thing I 107 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: feel about people they get into relationships in their twenties, 108 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: especially change. 109 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 2: Men mature later than women. 110 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: I think women change a lot too. They people, They 111 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: their career goals, their aspirations, their interests, their desire to travel, 112 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: the their desire to try on new personalities and new 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: ways of living. So much changes in the twenties. I 114 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: don't think people know who they are really until they're 115 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: close to thirty. 116 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 2: But if they've already in a long term relationship since 117 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: they've been younger and starting to wonder if they need 118 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: their starting to wonder if somebody's starting to wonder if 119 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: she should explore more things prior to before this big 120 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: day comes that you say I do. Then if they're 121 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: already thinking that, I would think, yes. Oh, you know 122 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: how some people go to college, Kathy, and they were 123 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: together all through high school and they separate through college. 124 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: They'll see each other when they come home, but they're 125 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: allowed to date other people. That's, you know, exploring. I 126 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: don't know that I could have handled that, but that's 127 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 2: when you find out is he really the one? You know? 128 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think you have to kiss a lot of frogs, 129 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: try it a lot outfits, you know, use any the 130 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: expression you want. I think it's very rare that someone 131 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: gets it right when they're twenty two years of age. 132 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: I think, you know, late twenties, twenty six, twenty seven, 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight, you start to know who you are, but 134 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: not when you're twenty twenty one, twenty two. 135 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: And don't you agree, nowadays it is much later than 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: it was when we were young. 137 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: You know. And why do you think that is? 138 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: They're smarter? 139 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Not? 140 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: Probably because they're education so expensive you can't afford you 141 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: got to pay. You're still at your mother's at thirty 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: like that. 143 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: I think that's partly it. I also think that people 144 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: have the resources to travel more, change jobs more. We're 145 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: just a much more mobile, more mobile society. You know, 146 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: you don't marry the guy from your hometown too much 147 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: anymore because you're out seeing the world. I think that 148 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: all of those things contribute to making a person not 149 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: necessarily ready. 150 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: My advice, I wouldn't want you to cheat on your man, 151 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: but you should have had other relationships and you compare 152 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: how they make you feel, how happy you are with 153 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: this one or this one. Just like our show when 154 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: we did The Bachelor, how does that person feel when 155 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: they're with this one or they're with this one and 156 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: coming down to that big decision might be the hardest 157 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: thing they've ever had to do. 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you said that. You're absolutely right. 159 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: It's funny you just said that, Susan, because there's actually 160 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: it's sort of like an equal equation people in their 161 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: early years, you know, let's call it twenty to thirty. 162 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: I think should try on a lot of different relationships 163 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of different experiences. And you know what 164 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: I think, when you're dating, let's call it fifty five 165 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: sixty and over the same thing. Don't jump into the 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: first relationship. If you're divorced or a widow or widower, 167 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, try on, you've changed since you were in 168 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: that permanent relationship. Trying, I mean, that is the question 169 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: of the day. But it just made me think. 170 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: Of things that were so important to you might have 171 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: changed for sure. That's right, you know, that's right. 172 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: All right? Are you ready to get in some fan questions? Here? 173 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: Let's do it? All right, here we go. Here's the 174 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: first one. It's from anonymous ladies. I am so angry 175 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: right now. I don't know what to do. This past 176 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: weekend was my best friend's wedding, let's call her Amy. 177 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: As we were all standing there listening to Amy's vows, 178 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: there was not a dry eye in the place. It 179 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: was so beautiful. Her now husband, however, Yeah, it was 180 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: the most crude, horrid thing I've ever heard of, making 181 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: sex jokes, talking about how we'll still love her even 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: when she quote goes downhill, et cetera. No one laughed 183 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: except for the groom's dad. Everyone else did that very 184 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: uncomfortable laugh to fill the painful silence. Now she's married 185 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: and on her honeymoon. You guys know how weddings go. 186 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: She was so busy, we didn't have time to sit 187 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: and talk, so I have no idea how she feels. 188 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: Can I bring this up the next time I see her? 189 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: What do I do? I'm so angry for her. I've 190 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: never seen this kind of behavior in him. Thanks, ladies. 191 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think she knew who she 192 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: was marrying. I mean, that wasn't the first time he 193 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: was sarcastic or crude or rude. And maybe she took 194 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: it funny. You know, he did say even when she 195 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: goes downhill that he'd still love her like that was 196 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: just his humor. I get it that the audience was 197 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: not in favor of this, except for his father, who 198 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: shares the same humor. 199 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: I guess, you know. 200 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 2: As far as bringing it up, I don't know. I 201 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: don't know. If she wants to talk about it, then fine, 202 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: you can let her know. 203 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: But Susan, wait, did you just hear that? What the 204 00:10:53,880 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: world just cracked? Why? Because we agreed? Oh? I absolutely? 205 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Seriously, I'm so angry 206 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: for her, sweetheart, Anonymous, you don't get to be angry 207 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: for her for her hermit, it's not her, it's her 208 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: If she's not angry mazel toks. Let her live her life, 209 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: you live yours. Don't worry about it. You know, if 210 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Susan's exactly right, if she brings it up and says, 211 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: what the hell was wrong with that guy? You could say, 212 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: I know, wasn't it terrible? You can pour each other 213 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: a big glass of wine and commiserate that she married 214 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: this fool who speaks crassly to his wife, his now wife. 215 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if it were my friends, yeah, let's say, 216 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: were you okay with that? Like? I thought it was 217 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: funny because we know and love him, but. 218 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: Okay, if the world just got to say together, if 219 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: you had to say something and it's your best friend, no, 220 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: that was pretty funny, make light of it. 221 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: I would say, Susan, if you got married and your 222 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: now husband made a really crass thing, you know what, 223 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: I'd be sitting This is the thing people think. 224 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: You know me, He wouldn't not because I would have 225 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: called him. 226 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: On it right then and there. You're right, But but 227 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: just just in you know, generically a friend, let's say 228 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: I would I probably would feel very sorry for my 229 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: friend for the embarrassment that I would feel. But you 230 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: know what that would be the embarrassment I'm feeling, not 231 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: necessarily the embarrassment she's feeling. And if everyone in the 232 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: room was embarrassed, so be it. The point is she's 233 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: now married. If she brings it up, if you, if 234 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: this happened to you or Nancy or Joan or anyone, 235 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: and they brought it up to me, then I shall say, 236 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: we talk about it, and I would take my lead 237 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: from them. If they were upset about it, you know, 238 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: then I. 239 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: Was asking us, do I bring it up? 240 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: No? You do not. Let's say it together, Susan. 241 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: No, No, stay in your own lane, in your own girl. 242 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: I love it how you do say something, or or 243 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: if your best friend says something really curious to see. 244 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: And even the bride's mother, like I would love to 245 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: know her thoughts. 246 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 247 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: Because she used to the guy too. 248 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: But when she comes back from her honeymoon, you know, 249 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: don't ask her about the sex and how many times 250 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: a day they had it. Wait for her to tell 251 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: you about the wedding, because if she was upset, she's 252 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: going to get down to it. 253 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely send us to d M. Please, I mean, 254 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: even we want, don't do it on air. We're just curious. 255 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah we will. If you don't want us to report back, 256 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: we won't, but just we want to know for our 257 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: inquiring minds want to know. We do. 258 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: And thanks for writing into us. That was really a 259 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: good one. All right, we have one more, Kathy Anonymous 260 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: rights ladies. I need your help. My boyfriend cannot get 261 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: a good picture of me to save his life. What 262 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: do I do? I really don't want to sound like 263 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: a diva when I talk to him, but. 264 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: The picks he gets are policle. We have so many 265 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: trips lined up for the rest of the year and 266 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: I want those few picks. 267 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: How can I get him to do this for me 268 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: without sounding annoying? He has little to no social media presence, 269 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: so he doesn't really get it. I'm not worried about 270 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: him judging me. I just feel a little weird bringing 271 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: this up. Lol. Thanks ladies, Well why do you feel 272 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: weird if he can't? What is he doing wrong with 273 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: the pictures? Like teach him, educate the man, or go 274 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: buy a selfie stick. 275 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so you know what my answer to this is. 276 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: I knew that's where you're going to go. Because all 277 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: for those of you when Susan and I recently were 278 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: on a cruise. You know, we're sitting there, I'm studying 279 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: the acropolist. Susan's turning her head the perfect way to 280 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: get the perfect picture, and you know, angling her body. Whatever. 281 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Here's my answer, I think you are making a huge mistake. Girlfriend. 282 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Enjoy the time, live in the moment with your boyfriend. 283 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: Who cares if it's a perfect pick. Have the perfect 284 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: experience with your boyfriend. Those memories are going to live 285 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: in your heart and your mind a lot longer than 286 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: the perfect angle standing in front cupping the sunset. You 287 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 288 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: I do, I do? But if she has a job 289 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: or something in her career that she needs these picks. 290 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Befo, she don't say that. I think she's a social 291 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: media like so many people today who live their lives 292 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: are what they depict of themselves on social. 293 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: Seeing my social media pages, a lot of ugly picks 294 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: out there. 295 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: I know. But you on our recent trips and you 296 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: took a c upload of pictures. People would Susan will say, 297 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: take another one, take another one. I'd say take one 298 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: and I'm done, Like I just want to right, You're like, 299 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: how do I stand? But for one picture. I don't 300 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: need a hundred pictures. But I think it's everyone to themselves, 301 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: each to them change to their. 302 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: Own I not having the pictures. I hear what she's saying. 303 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: I do too, But I would encourage her to think 304 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: about enjoying the time with your boyfriend, making the memories 305 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: in person and lodging those in your brain. And I 306 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: know it's a thing now, everyone wants the perfect social 307 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: media pages and all that. 308 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: I just what she's saying. Okay, she feels a little 309 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: weird about bringing it up. Obviously it is something to her. 310 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: So what she needs from us. 311 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: She needs to teach them. You're right, Yes, you sit 312 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: there like like Susan will say to me, don't. 313 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: Stand yourself in the square. You get the feet and 314 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: the head and center. 315 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: And then tilt the camera. This one, you tilt the 316 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: You know what. He here's one for you. If he 317 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: has an iPhone, he can take a class at the 318 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: local Apple store in using his iPhone there. And I 319 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: want a new Apple phone for this advertisement. But seriously, 320 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: you can take free classes at your at an Apple 321 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: store and they'll tell you how to make the most 322 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: of your iPhone and how to take the best pictures. 323 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: As you know, we had to film certain things. When 324 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: we do things and you get the new self it's 325 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: not just a selfie stick like back in the day. 326 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: There's so much out there. You set it up, you 327 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: get your pictures done, and then stop, get it over 328 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: with and then go enjoy your time with him. 329 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think I'm just making the point. Some 330 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: people prefer to have the perfect pictures, and I'd prefer 331 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: to have the perfect experience. That's all. And so, but 332 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: I hear you, Anonymous, and I think you need to 333 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: teach him. He can research it online, he can google it, 334 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: he can there's all kinds of ways to learn to 335 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: be a better picture taker. But if he's like me, 336 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: you know what he's going to say, Yeah, it's good enough. 337 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, is it a deal breaker for you? Maybe? 338 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: I hope not, No, I hope, But you know, the 339 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: best trips with your boyfriend. I hope you have the 340 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: best trips. I envy those trips coming up. 341 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: And Kathy, you know what, I you delete that one. 342 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: You're not going to put a bad one. You get it. 343 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: I mean, think about those things. She's wants a good picture. 344 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. But I'm just trying 345 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: to get her to enjoy the trips. 346 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: And I know, I know, but definitely to teach him 347 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: what he's doing wrong. 348 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: Yeah that's all. Yeah, let us know, have fun on 349 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: those trips. Send us photographs, send us you know, we 350 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: want to hear all about those trips. Okay, we're going 351 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: to move into our Golden spotlight, where we just discuss 352 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: something that is affecting the Golden community. Today's Golden spotlight 353 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: is all about agism, something I know a lot about. 354 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: There are so many stereotypes and judgments that young people 355 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: knowingly and unknowingly throw at golden's. What are some of 356 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: those things that you pick up on? How do they 357 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: make you feel? How did you handle moments of agism now? 358 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: And what would you say to those that are ages? 359 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I got to give one right off the bat. When 360 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 1: I was filming Bachelor in Paradise. Constantly the young ones 361 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: they were like, you know, go whatever with me. They're like, 362 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: be careful, you know, if the deck is wet, be careful. 363 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: Can I help you into the pool, Like get your 364 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: hands off me. Uh. You know, it was constant, like 365 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: we have to be careful of the older ones, you know. 366 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: Because I think that's a nice thing, though, because. 367 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: Why are they looking out, Susan. 368 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: Why because we're older. 369 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: That's agism. You look out for everyone's safe. 370 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: So you would prefer people not to the door for you. 371 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: No, that's different. That's no. One is chivalry when you 372 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: if it. If the deck is slippery, and and you've 373 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: got young ones and old ones getting on a boat okay, 374 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: or walking through the bar, and it's been raining, so 375 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: the deck around the pool is slippery, it's wet. If 376 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: you have people holding your arm, be careful, Susan, it's slippery. 377 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh thanks, And the twenty four year old is right 378 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: behind you walking, No one's offering her hand. 379 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: That is age to appreciate it. 380 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: It's not a matter whether you appreciate it. It's agism. 381 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: It's treating you differently because of your age, but in. 382 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: A good way. 383 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: Not to me. 384 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: Well, not everybody's as strong and as healthy as you are, 385 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: so you keep an open mind with most people. I 386 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: don't feel like i'm that that old yet, but I 387 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: know from my grandmother and her people, Yes I went 388 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: out of my way to make sure they didn't trip 389 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 2: or fall or be. 390 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: Okay, So give me some other stereotypes. What are some 391 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: other stereotypes that you think of for older people? 392 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: They don't know what's going on today because of social 393 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: media and AI and so on something. 394 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: In other words, you're saying young people or people think 395 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: that older people don't know how to use social media 396 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: because they're old. 397 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: And a lot of times we don't a lot of 398 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: people don't. 399 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: But it's ever okay. But the agism, let me just 400 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: be clear. Agism is when you make an assumption based 401 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: on someone's age. Age, So you make an assumption that 402 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: they can't walk on a slippery deck because they're older. 403 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: You make an assumption that they don't understand modern technology 404 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: because they're older, they didn't grow up with it. That's agism, 405 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: and I hate it. 406 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: You do, I see. I don't take it as an 407 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: offensive thing for some reason. I just don't. I think 408 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: it's nice that you were brought up well enough to 409 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 2: know that if I'm your elder, you're going to pause 410 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: and let me go first, or you're going to say 411 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: be careful, it's wet, or you're going to say, can 412 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 2: I hold the door for you to me? I'm not 413 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: walking out, you know what. 414 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: I want everyone to be safe, hold the door for everyone. 415 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: Tell everyone the deck is slippery. You're only doing it 416 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: for older people. That's agism. 417 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: How does it make you feel? 418 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: I don't like agism at all. I think you know 419 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: what other examples? How about not hiring you for a job. Oh, 420 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: you're sixty years old. You can't possibly Let me just 421 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: tell you again. On Bachelor in Paradise, I was out 422 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: there working out with Leslie. Leslie's a few years younger 423 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: than I am. We were on the beach doing pushups. 424 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: Do you know how many young girls I saw out? 425 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: They're working out, and you know what the guys said. 426 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: Can I just talk about the bods on those guys, 427 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: but the girls, but the guys lifting weights? They all 428 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: said to Leslie and mey, wow, you guys are really fit. 429 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: I can't believe you can do full push ups. And 430 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: you could add on to that at your age. 431 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: That's ages age because they said that, because it's you're older, 432 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: they don't expect you to do what you used to 433 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: be able to do. 434 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: And I know I can't, but it's it's having expectations 435 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: based on your age. You can't do a job. 436 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: Susan, Yes, that part, I get that part hit tone 437 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: because some people are still like yourself, got that you're 438 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: better shape than some thirty year olds. I know, how 439 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: dare you assume that she won't be able to do 440 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: it because of the number that she. 441 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: Is exactly one of the things we were doing, I'm 442 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: about There were lots of things we were doing, and 443 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: it was they were giving me a head start because 444 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: they thought I was stupid, because I thought I was older. 445 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: I left them in the dirt. 446 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: I know this. 447 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: I left them in there and they're like you to get. 448 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: Them ahead start and still one. 449 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: They were like, wow, you're a fast run uh huh, yes, 450 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: I am. Wow, you can swim, Yes, I can. Like 451 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: that to me is ages and people. That's why again 452 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: you see you get me this. This is hot literally 453 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: a hot topic for me. Men saying that they want 454 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: to date women who are, you know, between sixty and 455 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: sixty three because of a number, Because of the number, 456 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: try me, you are judge me based on my calendar date. 457 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 1: I will outrun you, out swim you out anything you Uh, 458 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: I'll be You know, you might be ten years younger 459 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: than half are an exception to the rule. But I 460 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: mean it's still agism, Yes it is. Yes, it is, 461 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: and I hate it so and You're right, I realized 462 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: that not everyone is healthy. Uh, Susan Carr. Tell the 463 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: story about you dragging the suitcases through the through the airport. 464 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Susan was dying. She had to have forty people help her. 465 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and. 466 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: Again, I also had three suitcases. 467 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Exactly. But I'm just saying people offered to help you 468 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: because of your. 469 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: Age, and I'm so grateful. I was so grateful. 470 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: And I'm going to take heat for this. Do you 471 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: remember what I said? What when I was when I 472 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: was getting crazy because I wanted to make sure we're 473 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: getting to the airport on time. 474 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: Kathy, Wait, you gotta know, okay, no matter airport in 475 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: my mosque, she's forty feet ahead of me. She just 476 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: leaves you in the dust. She's on her way, like, 477 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: wait a minute, role now in the mosque. 478 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: I took my time. You and I just got lost together. 479 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: But let me just say it is it is? Uh, 480 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: I said to Susan, because I got frustrated because she 481 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: could she couldn't keep up because she was. 482 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: Mind you, how busy the Athens airport it is, but 483 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: so unorganized. 484 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: We can't even go there. That's a whole other podcast. 485 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: But I said to Susan turned around and looked at 486 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, Susan, because Suan, let 487 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: me just say, Susan packs for you know, I might 488 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: wear this shoes or might wear those shoes. She has events, 489 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: she has options out out the ying, yank everything. What 490 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: did I tell you? I said, do not pack more 491 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: than you can carry the next time, because I'm not 492 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: helping you. Next time, bring what you can carry. And 493 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: we're holding to that. We're holding to that. How do 494 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: we get off of agism? 495 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I took it like, not 496 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: as in the negative sense. But when you talk about 497 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: a job or they're judging because of your age, where 498 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: you won't get a job because of your age, then yes, 499 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: I feel or. 500 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: Men won't date you because of your age. All those 501 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: ageism is. 502 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: Never what causes people to lie about their age. 503 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: That's right, Susan. Just in my opinion. I mean, we 504 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: can you know, please let us know if I'm wrong. 505 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: Agism isn't it never a good thing? Agism always has 506 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: a pejorative meaning. It's never a good thing. If you 507 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: if you bring up the word agism, it's not good. 508 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: Right, did you ever feel on the ship that we 509 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: were on. What would your answer be when they say, well, 510 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: how old were they? I would say from thirties. There 511 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: was a few younger, but most of the people were 512 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 2: mid thirties, forties our age and up. 513 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think. 514 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: I think we met one guy that was twenty nine. 515 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: Most people in their thirties. And do you remember what 516 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: they all speaking of agism? Do you remember they said, Wow, 517 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: you guys can really party, you can really hang Wait 518 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: woulch Did you ever hear them say that to another 519 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: thirty year old? 520 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: No, I said, did they? Because they're young. 521 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: That's called agism. 522 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: They said it to us customer as a bad thing, 523 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: that we're surprised that we do as good as we do. 524 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: That's right. I'm right, that's right, and I take it 525 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: upon myself daily to prove people wrong. And so do you, Susan. 526 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: You look and act younger than your age, and so 527 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: do I. And I'm proud of number. 528 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: Do we not agree on that? It's just a number. 529 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: Not everybody ages the same. I know I can't do 530 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: what I used to do. And a lot of things, 531 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: you mean, like. 532 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: Carry three pieces of luggage through the airport. I mean 533 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: like that. 534 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: I probably never could do that, Bute. No, I'm smart. 535 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 2: I get my charge card out and I get the wheels, 536 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, the big push card. 537 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's the other funny thing. 538 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: Wait, have it When I had to go to the 539 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: bathroom and I was waiting on you, I had to 540 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: wait three and a half hours for her to land 541 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: after flying coach, mind you for nine and a half hours. 542 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: Then I have to wait in an airport for three 543 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: and a half hours and I had to go potty. 544 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: Here I am with this cart with my luggage. At 545 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: that point it was only two pieces and it wouldn't 546 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: fit into the bathroom. And I was like, oh my god, 547 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: what am I going to do? I have to pee 548 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: this kind woman, I'm trying to get it in. I 549 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: was pushing. I waited in line. I'm pushing and she goes, 550 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to make it. I said, 551 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: I don't either, but I really have to go. She goes, 552 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: I will wait. 553 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: So much wait, wait, we have we're running out of 554 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: time here, but we have so many bad We were 555 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: in the park in Istanbul, Do you remember that? And 556 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: Susan had the bathroom. That's what I'm talking about. Susan 557 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: had to go to the bathroom so badly. You have 558 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: to pay. It's just a small, you know, small coin. 559 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: It comes up to like five cents. Go to a dodge. 560 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: They wouldn't accept it. 561 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: So this guy comes up. Long story short, this guy 562 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: comes up, puts his card and you can use these 563 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: credit cards to go to the bathroom. And Susan goes in. 564 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 1: And there's two bathrooms and one if you fall us 565 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: on Instagram. By the way, it's on Instagram. I'm going 566 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: to repost it, Susan. It's so damn funny. I think 567 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna repost it today. There are two doors. One 568 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: has a picture of a toilet on it that's very clear. 569 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: The other picture has it looks like an oval with 570 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: a hole in the middle. 571 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: When you open the door, you're running in here. Now 572 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: keep in mind you think I'm looking at pictures on 573 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: the door. It was about to come down my legs. People. 574 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: I did not care. I would have went in public. 575 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: It's literally in the first door. 576 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: Which is the hole in the ground. And she and 577 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: I go in the and I come out and I 578 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: said to and goes oh, my god, that was the 579 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: worst experience of what are you talking about? She goes, 580 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: I had to crouch down and pie in a hole. 581 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 1: I said, what are you taing? So, of course Kathy 582 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: astoct I looked at her like, didn't you us? So 583 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: I go back in and investigate, and I took a 584 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: video of it, and it's I'm putting it back up 585 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: Today's Susan on my Do you know what? 586 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: I assumed you had the same because when I was 587 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: in Paris and Secular cur I'll never forget paying my 588 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: two coins to go to the bathroom and this was 589 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: a dirt hole. This one we went in a tile. 590 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: It was very. 591 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: Clean, it was a whole people, It was hard, it was. 592 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: Still a hole in the ground was beautiful on top. 593 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: The one in Paris not so much. It was dirt. 594 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: And I looked at my husband at the time, I said, Dicky, 595 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: do you know I just paid to pee on the ground. 596 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: If you could have seen her face, We're gonna end 597 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: it with this one. If you could have seen Susan's 598 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: face when we came out of that bathroom, she goes, 599 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: I can't believe it was just like France had to 600 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: pee in a hole I said. I looked at I said, 601 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? It was all said, I said, 602 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: I peed in a toy. She goes, no, you didn't. 603 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: This is the stuff that we get into when we're 604 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: traveling as people as people, uh not up. Yeah, we 605 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: really had a plast all. 606 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, well that does it. And that was a 607 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: lot of fun. Yat just reminiscent. I'm still living. But 608 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: we thank all of our listeners for joining with us today. 609 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoyed it as much as we enjoyed sharing. 610 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: Oh and again, you haven't heard the last of our 611 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: of our tales on our vacation. But in the meantime, 612 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour. 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