1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stop? Mom? Never told you? 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: From house top works dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: This is Molly and I'm Kristen. Kristen. Do you remember 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: the year two thousand six? Vaguely? It's only four years ago. Um, 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: two thousand six was kind of a magical time, I 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: think because the world was awaiting the birth of one 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Surrey Cruise and really, sorry, Cruise deserves a lot of podcasts. 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about people's fascination with celebrity 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: children wearing high heels when you're three. By Surrey Cruise. 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: You're referring to the offspring of Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise. Correct, Yes, Um, 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Wikipedia your first her as Tom Kitten there Tom cat right. Um. Anyway, 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: the thing I was thinking about when I was thinking 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: about Surry Cruise is I frequently do apparently. Um, it's 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: back in old two thousand six when Tom Cruise announced 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: he was going to eat her placenta. Remember this, you know, 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. The only thing I remember from 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: that whole fiasco was him jumping up on Oprah's couch 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: screaming I love her. If only we had a couch 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: and could re enact that moment to be special. Well, 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, when old Tom Kinton was 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: on the way, Tom Cruise said I'm gonna I'm gonna 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: eat the placenta and a guard headlines because like the 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: couch jumping, everyone was like, that's sort of weird, Tom, 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: why are you doing that? Well? And usually isn't the 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: mother the one who eats it? If the placenta is eating, 27 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: isn't it usually by the mom not the dad. Well, 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: that's that was the question that didn't even really come up, 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: just because everyone was still kind of blown away by 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: by the option of eating a placenta. But I mean, 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: lots of cultures have really interesting rituals surrounding this organ 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: that nourishes a child when it is in the womb. Yeah. 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: We found a very informative article by Sarah J. Buckley 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: entitled Placenta Rituals in Folklore from around the World. And uh, 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: and you're right, moll. I mean they're all all sorts 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: of things that folks do. In Cambodia, the baby's placenta, 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: which is called quote the globe of the origin of 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the soul has to be buried in the right location 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: in order to to protect the baby after birth. One 40 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: of my favorite um rituals comes from Turkey, where the 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: placenta is known as the friend or comrade of the 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: baby and it must be wrapped in a clean cloth 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: and buried. But the cord from the placenta, UM, you 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: have to if you want your kid to be well educated. 45 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: For example, you throw it over schoolyard wall. Can you 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: imagine being playing in the school yard and all of 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: a sudden cord comes You're flying over felt it in 48 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: the face by a placenta. UM. What are some other 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: ones we liked well in in Malaysia? When a baby 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: smiles unexpectedly here she's said to be playing with the 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: older sibling a k a. The placenta. Just kind of sweet. 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: I like how a lot of these um relaying around 53 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: that the senter being a companion for the child in 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: the roomba. I mean, you're second there for nine months. 55 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: You gotta do something. Yeah, uh spooky. But let's see 56 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: what else. For Navajo children, their placenta will be buried 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: at four corners of the reservation to ensure that they 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: will always be connected to the land and will return 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: home at some point after they grew up. That's very sweet. 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: And Transylvania, if you desire no more children, then you 61 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: will burn the baby's placenta and mix it with ashes, 62 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: and then the husband would drink this to render himself infertile. 63 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: So maybe Tom Cruise was saying we should have read 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: between the lines here. Okay, maybe Tom was saying by 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: wanting to eat the placenta that he wanted to eat 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: and done with kids. It's possible. If I ever meet 67 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, I'm going to ask him about that. Yes, 68 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: ask what he knows about Transylvanian placenta more. It's the 69 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: best pickup line I've ever heard. Um. But an ancient 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: Chinese medicine that's sort of where the whole idea of 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: eating the placenta comes from. It also comes from the 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: Old Animal Kingdom. Yeah, because a lot of lower order 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: mammals will eat their placed well, the mothers obviously will 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: eat their placenta during childbirth and this is thought to 75 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: reduce pain and has anti inflammatory effects for for the 76 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: for the mama. And so they're saying that if you 77 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: The belief is that if you consume the placenta in 78 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: some form, and there are a few forms that it 79 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: can take. Some women have it dried out and made 80 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: into pills. Some women just go ahead and make a 81 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: meal out of it, and we found several recipes for 82 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: things like placenta pizza, placenta, lasagna, placenta, cocktails, placent We 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: could really go on. Um. Yeah, unfortunately, and don't look 84 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: at the pictures that are associated with it and just 85 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: try and think of it as a ingredient. Yeah, probably 86 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: not a good Google image search not around lunch found 87 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: that out the hard way. Um. But the belief is 88 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: that the if the mother consumes it, it can it 89 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: can relieve pain in the form of postpartum depression. And 90 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: a lot of women take this pretty seriously and anecdotally, 91 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, they say that they don't have depression. Isn't 92 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: the placenta placebo? As Kristen called her earlier this morning, 93 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's not a whole lot of studies 94 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: on it. In fact, they've done studies and animals where 95 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: they'll deprive the animal of the placenta and they don't 96 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: seem to suffer any form of postpartum depression. UM and 97 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: Mark Crystal, who has studied uh placenta eating in animals 98 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: a lot, says that it's really probably pain relief during 99 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: the delivery that they kind of while they're delivering the 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: kid kind of lick at the area to get at 101 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: the placenta juices, And there was a sentence I never 102 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: thought I'd say, they're just kind of trying to bypassa. 103 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: The Royal College of Obstetrians and Gynecologists in the UK 104 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: also amount with a pretty formal statement that said that 105 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: if mothers are already well nourished, then there's really no 106 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: health benefit from eating the placenta. Based on an article 107 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: that I read um from ABC News, though, it seems 108 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: like more and more moms in the United States are 109 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: interested in doing something with the placenta. I mean, you 110 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: read about how people use the placenta all around, um 111 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: the world, and it seems like in the United States 112 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: it comes out and it's pretty much just deposited. It's 113 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: considered medical waste. In fact, there have been women who 114 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: have wanted to keep their placenta for some purpose and 115 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: they've had to go to court to say, you know, 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: that's mine. It's like giving me the tonsils that you 117 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: took out or whatever. Yeah, And in Hawaii it's been 118 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: more of a problem because Native Hawaiians will plant the 119 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: placenta with a tree to grow as the child grows, 120 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: and it's referred to as there, you know, placenta tree 121 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: to kind of chart their their growth as a as 122 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: a person. And so there have been a lot of 123 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: legal problems with some hospitals not allowing the moms to 124 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: to take a posten to home. So the thought is 125 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: that even after exits the body, the placenta, which has 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: been providing nutrients to the baby all along, does not 127 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden lose all the hormones, growth factors, 128 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: immune molecules, lipids, at nucleic acids, all these things that 129 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: were good for the baby, they're still present as good 130 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: for the earth, good for the mother even after um earth, 131 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: and maybe even good for other people. Yeah, because we 132 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: found an article in Slate that talked about dropping by 133 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: on your lunch ower and getting a placental transfusion. Right now, 134 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: since the late nineteen fifties, placental extract has been available 135 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: in Japan, and even today there are some clinics that 136 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: will allow you to go in and actually get an 137 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: ivy drip of these of this placental extract so that 138 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: you can supposedly benefit from all of those rich compounds 139 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: and nutrients that are in found in placentas. Yeah, they all. 140 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of data on any of 141 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: this eating it, infusing it, UM. There's really no data 142 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: on it. There. There was one small study that um 143 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: slate found from Korea where they injected women UM between 144 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: the ages forty and sixty four with placental extract and 145 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the women did report that they had UM significantly lower 146 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: menopausal symptoms than the ones who were just the control group, 147 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: and they had decreased fatigue, and they had UM improved 148 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: immune systems. But it's a very small study, it's not 149 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: considered definitive. But that's the one thing they found that 150 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: suggests that maybe these compounds are still good and can 151 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: still work their magic after they've exited the womb. Well, 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting to the Japan's National 153 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: Health insurance will cover placental treatments for liver disease and 154 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: UM these symptoms of menopause, and some people will actually 155 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: just pay out of pocket to UM have these injections 156 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: for treat and a fatigue, insomnia, and uh to uh 157 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: combat aging. Speaking of combating aging, Kristen, you can buy 158 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: face cream that has placental extract, either from a human 159 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: or from a cow. Yeah, placental extract became a pretty 160 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: popular cosmetic ingredient in the nineteen forties in the US 161 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: because they claimed that it would remove wrinkles and stimulate 162 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: tissue growth. However, the FDA hasn't really been on board 163 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: with all of these placental skin claims. Yeah, thatsly came 164 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: in and said, you can't promise you're gonna make people 165 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: look younger, and so I think now they just don't 166 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: promise it, but you'll find in the ingredients. Hey, you've 167 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: got placenta in here. It's the fountain of youth. I mean, 168 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, babies, youth ties together well. And evidently in 169 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: the seventies I thought this was kind of funny. A 170 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,479 Speaker 1: lot of shampoos and conditioners where marketed as having placental 171 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: extract in them as well, to make your hair grow 172 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: long and strong and healthy. And now that's kind of 173 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: a fallen by the wayside if babies are known for 174 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: their strong and healthy hair um. But you know what, 175 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if it's just extract, can it 176 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: really have all these nutrients? I mean, like Mark Crystal, 177 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: the guy who was for Time about earlier, who's studied 178 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: in animals, it's basically said, if you cook it, you're 179 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: going to destroy all the proteins. If you dry it out, 180 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: you're destroying other things. I mean, if you're just taking extracts, 181 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: does a really still pack a punch? And that's what 182 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: really no study can tell us so far. Yeah, and 183 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: so far in terms of it's used in skin care products, uh, 184 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: they've only been able to say that, yes, it can 185 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: protect your skin and help hydrate it, but it's no 186 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: better than you know, any other kind of additives that 187 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: are something like every moisturizer, right, And in terms of 188 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: wound healing, that's one of the claims that you know, 189 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Polson extract will stimulate all this cell regrowth and will 190 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: help with heling. But it's also been found to be 191 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: no more effective than any an asseptic. But you know what, 192 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: I do think one way that I found when we 193 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: were researching this topic where placentis can be really effective, 194 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: what when you make teddy bears out of them. I 195 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: was worried you were going to go there. Kristen did 196 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: not like the placenta teddy bear as much as I did. 197 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: But basically, um, this guy from London, Alex Green, he's 198 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: a designer, took a placenta and wanted to kind of 199 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: shake up how people thought of it. You know, he 200 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: probably read the same things we did where it's used 201 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: around the world for various things, and he knew that 202 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom and the United States it's sort 203 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: of just considered medical waste. Um. He said that he 204 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: read the ancient Egyptians revered the revered the pharaoh's placentis 205 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: so much that they put it on a pole like 206 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: a flag for public display. So he had all that 207 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: in his mind, and so he took a placenta. He 208 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: cured it was salt to kill the bacteria and remove 209 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: the water, and so then he's got kind of like 210 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: a dried placental skin. And then he fills it with 211 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: a mixture of eggs and tannins and so is it 212 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: filled with brown white rice. And if you, I mean, 213 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: you can Google Plus sent a Teddy Barrens an image 214 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: of It's not the cutest teddy bear ever, but I 215 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: mean it does kind of look like a brown mother 216 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: teddy bear. Yeah. I mean, if what's going to be 217 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: more special to a kid a teddy bear made of 218 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: its own placenta, I can think of a lot of things, Molly. 219 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: If you're given the choice between a cuddly fake teddy 220 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: bear and a placenta teddy bear, I take the cutly one. Yeah. Yeah, 221 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: but you do have to kind of admire the fact 222 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: that he's going to take something that we consider waste 223 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: and try and make it into something that's art. Sure, 224 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: in placenta art isn't all that uncommon either. Women will, 225 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: you know, use their placenta and integrated into um kind 226 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: of ritualistic art art projects. Now it's I think it's 227 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: fairly well known that neither Kristen nor I have given birth, 228 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: so we actually haven't. Act I haven't seen a placenta 229 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: up close, have you, Kristen? Uh No, not that I 230 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: can remember. So we are I am willing to admit 231 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: right here that maybe we would have a different opinion 232 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: if we had seen one up close. Yeah, which is 233 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: said anecdotally. Some of some of these women will swear 234 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: by the healing properties of placenta phagi, are you eating 235 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: eating placenta? So admitting that we haven't seen one. We 236 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: want to hear from you women out there who have 237 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: and men. Right, so when it came out where you like, 238 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: there's my kids, teddy bear, were you at all interested 239 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: in eating it? Were you all interested in smearing it 240 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: on your face via a moisturizer. I have a hunch 241 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: that you know, probably going into the birth women will 242 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: have decided long before then whether or not they're going 243 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: to want to keep their placenta. It doesn't seem like 244 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of a operate delivery room saying where you're like, yes, 245 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: give me the placenta, let's take it home. You're probably 246 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: more distracted by the fact that you all had a baby. Yes. So, 247 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: since Molly and I have never had to personally make 248 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: a placenta related decision at this juncture in our lives, 249 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: we want to hear from you guys about, uh, if 250 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: you have had to do it, what you know, if 251 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: you just did away with the placenta, or if you said, hey, 252 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: why don't we why don't we cook up sim placenta lasagna? 253 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: There's no harm and try and no harm, no foul 254 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: because so far our research, you know, doesn't exactly back 255 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: up all of these health benefits. But but you know, 256 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: why would it come out if we weren't supposed to 257 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: do something with it? Exactly? Why would so many people 258 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: be doing this for so long if maybe there there 259 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: wasn't something behind it. So give us your perspective and 260 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: we will. Let's close out by saying that you and 261 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: the tom Cruise gained all those headlines for saying it 262 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: was going to eat it. He kind of then later recanted, 263 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: and we actually have no idea whether Sorry cruises placenta 264 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: ever went into anyone's stomach. Mhm. On that note, listener 265 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: mail the listener mail. So we've got an email here 266 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: speaking of birthing. We've got an email here from Diana 267 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: about birth order from our podcast about whether or not 268 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: birth order influences your personality. She said, I thought it 269 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: was interesting because as a firstborn, I had a lot 270 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: of the characteristics the author gave a first borns, and 271 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: I could see that my brother, who was nine years younger, 272 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: was sharing the qualities of the second born and youngest children. 273 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: I recently read the Birth Order Book by Dr Kevin Lehman, 274 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: and he breaks down birth order and all the exceptions. 275 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: You guys didn't talk about all the characteristics of people 276 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: in different places in a family. For example, in my experience, 277 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: class clowns are the youngest children. All of my past 278 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: boyfriends except one were youngest children, and they were all 279 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: class or work clowns. Lehman says that it's because youngest 280 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: children do it for the attention when they're older siblings 281 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: are getting attention by in academics or sports. Oh, it's 282 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: the youngest child. And I don't entirely agree with h. 283 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: Lehman's just keep bringing okay. John Stewart, Jim Carrey, Ellen 284 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: de Jenners, and Eddie Murphy are all youngest children, including 285 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: your Shirley Christ and Congress that will soon be added 286 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: to the list, you know, as I reach global fame. 287 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: I was recently promoted to a position at my job 288 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: that requires excellent organizational and communication skills, and I was 289 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: sent to corporate headquarters for training with about twenty others 290 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: from around the country. After a day or so, out 291 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: of curiosity, I asked everyone their birth order. Everyone was 292 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: a first or only child, except to interesting one of 293 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: which was a class clown and another was in what 294 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Lehman calls a role reverse family. She was the youngest, 295 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: but her parents were divorced and her mother held her 296 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: responsible for her older sister, so she has traits that 297 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: normally the older oldest child would have. Parents definitely determine 298 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: how children will turn out, and every family is different, 299 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: but I think there's something to it. Okay, thank you, Diana. 300 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: I'll read another one on the same topic from Katie, 301 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: who writes as a first on myself. I know I'm biased, 302 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: but I have some opinions about the birth order podcast. 303 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: I am two years older than my brother, and I 304 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: live in an upper middle class neighborhood and go to 305 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: a great school. I've always felt that he got the 306 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: better end of the deal, but I suspect that I'd 307 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: feel the same way if the roles were reversed. It's 308 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: probably a grass that's always greener on the other side situation, 309 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: and brother does benefit from much more relaxed rules and 310 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: more privileges than me. I was the last one of 311 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: my friends to get my own cell phone in eighth grade, 312 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: whereas he received one at the end of fifth grade. 313 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: He's rewarded monetarily for good grades when I am not. 314 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: My parents also let him do things at his age 315 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: that I was never allowed to do. This could either 316 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: be because my parents realized they could let a child 317 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: out on a longer leash and the child would still survive, 318 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: or be because he's a boy. Either way, it's infuriating. 319 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: I also happened to be friends with almost all oldest siblings. 320 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: We all feel that we're stuck doing much more work 321 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: than our younger siblings. If a younger sibling doesn't want 322 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to do something, we always have to do the test 323 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: for them. Additionally, younger siblings at our school have a 324 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: much easier time. They have friends where they come into 325 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: the school because they know all the older siblings friends. 326 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: They also have tips from older siblings on specific teachers, 327 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: and always have home help from someone who took the 328 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: class a little more recently than parents. All of the 329 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: uper geeks are also younger siblings because they have older 330 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: siblings who taught them higher level skills. I'm still at 331 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: the top of my class without a big brother sister, 332 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: although I'm certain things would be different if I had fun. 333 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: So as for the overall question of podcast this birth 334 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: order to tremind your personality, I think the answer is yes. Family, 335 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: I would like to point out something I think we've 336 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: gotten more email about this from oldest siblings in the 337 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: younger core, driven to write in yes, we're just off 338 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: clown and around the youngest siblings can't be bothered. UM. 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