WEBVTT - Tech News: VPN Fails and Apple Vulnerabilities

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Be there and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>tech news for Tuesday, July twenty twenty one, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>just get right into it. Misinformation is in the news,

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<v Speaker 1>both you know, as a topic and literally as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the news, because that's the world we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times is Max Fisher wrote a piece

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week titled Disinformation for Higher A shadow industry

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<v Speaker 1>is quietly booming. And the contents of that piece will

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<v Speaker 1>likely come as no surprise to anyone who has kept

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<v Speaker 1>up with the ongoing mess that is misinformation and disinformation

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<v Speaker 1>campaigns and the platforms that facilitate the spread of those campaigns.

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<v Speaker 1>And it probably isn't a surprise that there are a

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<v Speaker 1>collection of companies that are kind of acting as guns

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<v Speaker 1>for hire to run and promote disinformation campaigns on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of their clients. And it gives those clients kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of distance from the cd and unethical campaigns themselves. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to have a smear campaign against say

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<v Speaker 1>a political rival. You'd rather not have that come back

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<v Speaker 1>to you if you're saying a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>are just legit not true. Anyway, we saw all of

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<v Speaker 1>this years ago with Cambridge Analytica. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a an example of this, although they did other stuff too,

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<v Speaker 1>and that company was actually fairly clumsy when it all

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to it. I mean that that house of

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<v Speaker 1>cards came crashing in on itself. But on the flip side,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also money to be made in fighting disinformation. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're also seeing startups come up to fight disinformation while

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<v Speaker 1>others are actively promoting it. So startups like Active Fence

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<v Speaker 1>are fighting disinformation. So we've got two sides of an

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<v Speaker 1>information war, both of which have turned this fight into

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<v Speaker 1>a profitable business. There's probably something really smart I could

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<v Speaker 1>say here about the whole situation and maybe about capitalism,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just going to leave that to someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>better equipped than I to make that observation. But just

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<v Speaker 1>like typical right anyway, Active Fence recently announced that it

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<v Speaker 1>has raised one million dollars in investments and is developing

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<v Speaker 1>a suite of tools to help detect misinformation campaigns. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>The company is using artificial intelligence as a way to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crawl across various social platforms and not just

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<v Speaker 1>examine posts, but to look for connections between different accounts

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<v Speaker 1>and different groups, and those connections can point to concerted

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to spread, you know, a specific message or undermine

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<v Speaker 1>some other message. As we continue to deal with misinformation

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<v Speaker 1>campaigns around the world that deal with everything from politics

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<v Speaker 1>to workers rights, to vaccinations and beyond, it becomes more

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<v Speaker 1>important to be able to weed out the bad stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and to give people more opportunities to understand when they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually being manipulated and by whom and for what purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredibly valuable information to have, assuming that you actually

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<v Speaker 1>take the effort to look into it and not just

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<v Speaker 1>allow information to confirm maybe preconceived biases or prejudices you

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<v Speaker 1>might have, or to comfort you into thinking that something

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<v Speaker 1>that is your fault is totally not your fault. Like

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<v Speaker 1>all those kind of earmarks for how misinformation can really

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<v Speaker 1>get its hooks in, Uh, it's hard to overcome. My

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<v Speaker 1>guess is we're gonna see a continued escalation between the

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<v Speaker 1>companies that are offering to handle disinformation campaigns and the

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<v Speaker 1>ones providing the tools to fight those campaigns and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>just keep getting messy. That's my, you know, incredibly obvious prediction. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>switching gears, let's talk about cybersecurity and software vulnerabilities. So

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<v Speaker 1>for many years, Apple products were seen as sort of

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<v Speaker 1>being bulletproof, and there were a couple of really big

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<v Speaker 1>major reasons for this. There are lots of reasons, but

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<v Speaker 1>two really big ones, and one was that Apple notoriously

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<v Speaker 1>follows a walled garden strategy in which the company makes

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<v Speaker 1>not only the operating systems, but the actual hardware that

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<v Speaker 1>those OS is run upon. Now, if you do this correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually cut down on potential vulnerabilities. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have different companies making different pieces and thus

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<v Speaker 1>creating the potential for gaps insecurity as much. It can

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<v Speaker 1>still happen, but it gives you a leg up. The

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<v Speaker 1>second big factor was that Apple, for many years had

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<v Speaker 1>much lower percentage of the market share when it came

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<v Speaker 1>to operating systems. So if you were a batty and

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to make malicious software and your goal was

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<v Speaker 1>to affect the largest number of people you could, you

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<v Speaker 1>would focus on Windows based devices, Windows based computers. Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is before the smartphone era, and that's because Windows

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<v Speaker 1>was on way more computer systems than mac OS was,

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<v Speaker 1>so it just made more sense you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>hit more targets if you aimed for Windows users. But

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<v Speaker 1>these factors do not make Apple immune to the problem

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<v Speaker 1>of malware. They're not, you know, completely uh bulletproof, as

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying. The Register actually reports that Apple recently

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<v Speaker 1>patched a zero day vulnerability in its various OS products,

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<v Speaker 1>including mac os and iOS, just yesterday on Monday, a

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<v Speaker 1>week earlier. The company issued updates to the various operating

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<v Speaker 1>systems to fix some other issues, and the patched vulnerability

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<v Speaker 1>was in a screen frame buffer. Uh. That's a feature that,

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<v Speaker 1>if it had been exploited by a hacker, could be

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<v Speaker 1>used to uh to to run malware, to execute malware.

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<v Speaker 1>The Register also reports that someone, though at the time

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm recording this, I don't know who, had been

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<v Speaker 1>exploiting that bug in some way. Uh. That could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>be the n s O group, that's the that's the

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<v Speaker 1>company that's behind the Pegasus spyware that I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>last week, the one out of Israel. At least one

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<v Speaker 1>security researcher has said that they knew about this particular

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<v Speaker 1>bug for several months, but did not report it that

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<v Speaker 1>they were working on their own kind of bigger report

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<v Speaker 1>that was going to incorporate this as part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, a yikes. Anyway, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that really stinks for the end consumers

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<v Speaker 1>because bad actors can easily exploit vulnerabilities like these and

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<v Speaker 1>use some fairly simple attacks to get people to fall

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<v Speaker 1>prey to them. I mean, the the NSO groups. Pegasus

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<v Speaker 1>uses a zero click attack through messengers like I Message,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that's very hard to avoid. Gizmoto has an

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<v Speaker 1>article listing the various Windows ten features that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go away when Windows eleven launches, or rather Windows

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<v Speaker 1>eleven isn't going to include them. If you keep running

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<v Speaker 1>Windows ten, you'll still have access to these features. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>each time Microsoft updates its flagship operating system, we get

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<v Speaker 1>some new features and we say goodbye to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the older ones, and it doesn't always end up feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a fair trade. So what is heading

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<v Speaker 1>out this time? Well, Internet Explorer will finally be really

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<v Speaker 1>most sincerely dead, at least on Windows eleven. Microsoft hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really supported i E in a while. They moved to

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<v Speaker 1>the Edge web Browser instead, but they kept it around

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<v Speaker 1>for folks who refused to use Edge. UH and Windows

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<v Speaker 1>ten still had Internet Explorer as an option, but that

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<v Speaker 1>will not be the case with Windows eleven. Another feature

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<v Speaker 1>going away is the synchronization feature called Timeline. So the

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<v Speaker 1>idea behind Timeline is that you could essentially link different

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<v Speaker 1>Windows based machines that you work on and have them

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<v Speaker 1>synchronize your activities across the machines. So let's say you've

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<v Speaker 1>got two Windows based computers in your house, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>on one of those computers and you open up a

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<v Speaker 1>word document in your one drive, and you work on

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<v Speaker 1>it for a while, and you say that you close out.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you move to your other computer. Later on in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, you open up Word and that document would

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<v Speaker 1>be in your recent documents list in Word, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it was a totally different computer, because Timeline was synchronizing

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<v Speaker 1>these activities across the two devices. That is going away

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<v Speaker 1>with Windows eleven. I'm sure there'll be some comparable feature,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not Timeline. Another thing that's going away are

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<v Speaker 1>live tiles, which I forgot we're even a thing for

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<v Speaker 1>Windows tin. I've never used them. These are little tiles

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<v Speaker 1>that you could put on the Windows tin desktop. They

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<v Speaker 1>can display live information, so you could have a tile

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<v Speaker 1>that has like a news ticker, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like when Microsoft is going to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to widgets for Windows eleven, which really aren't that different

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<v Speaker 1>from live tiles, I suppose, and I guess maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>will be the Windows where widgets really pay off. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't spend a whole lot of time looking at my desktop,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe I'm just not the right person for these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of features because I typically have programs on full

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<v Speaker 1>screen all the time. I've got multiple monitors and each

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<v Speaker 1>one has got a full screen program on it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I find lots of open windows in the same view

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<v Speaker 1>to be too cluttery. But when Whendows eleven, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put the widgets back. I don't think I'll be using them,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'll be there. Windows eleven will also remove your

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<v Speaker 1>ability to place your taskbar on whichever edge of the

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<v Speaker 1>screen you want, and now the task bar will live

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the screen and you'll like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually do happen to like having the test

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<v Speaker 1>bar at the bottom of the screen. I get really

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<v Speaker 1>irritated whenever I accidentally relocate the taskbar to some other

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<v Speaker 1>part of the screen, which can sometimes happen if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being sloppy with my key strokes, and then something I

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<v Speaker 1>can't find my start button because it's at a different

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<v Speaker 1>spot of the screen. So I'm totally okay with Windows

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<v Speaker 1>eleven anchoring it at the bottom. Windows eleven is also

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<v Speaker 1>apparently going to de emphasize Cortana. That's the virtual assistant

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<v Speaker 1>feature that's named after a character in the Halo video

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<v Speaker 1>game franchise. Cortana will still be incorporated into Windows eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>but won't occupy the same sort of screen real estate,

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<v Speaker 1>nor will there be a Cortana segment in the setup process.

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<v Speaker 1>And also Skype is going to get de emphasized as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft's really pushing Microsoft Teams to be the main communication

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<v Speaker 1>tool on Windows based machines. There are a few other changes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I recommend going over to gizmoto and reading up

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<v Speaker 1>on the rest if you're thinking about upgrading to Windows

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<v Speaker 1>eleven when it comes out later this year. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a few more news stories to cover, but first let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. I got a hypothetical for you.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens if you run a company that's focused on

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<v Speaker 1>online privacy tools, you know, like virtual private networks or VPNs,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get caught out running unencrypted services, well you

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<v Speaker 1>go into damage control, and that's kind of what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with the company wind describe. Wind Scribe offers virtual private

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<v Speaker 1>networks or VPN services, and the way VPNs work, just

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<v Speaker 1>from a really high level, is pretty simple. So you

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<v Speaker 1>use a VPN client to log into a remote server

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<v Speaker 1>that is kind of standing as proxy for you. Then

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<v Speaker 1>all of your Internet activity actually filters through this VPN

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<v Speaker 1>server before it comes to you. Anyone who's snooping on

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<v Speaker 1>your connection will only see that you are communicating with

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<v Speaker 1>this VPN server. They won't be able to see what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing beyond that server. So let's say you're using

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<v Speaker 1>a VPN to get past some regional controls, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to avoid having your Internet service provider know which

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<v Speaker 1>sites you're visiting. Maybe you're shopping for different I s

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<v Speaker 1>p s and you would just prefer if the I

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<v Speaker 1>s P you have doesn't know about that. These are

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<v Speaker 1>all basic things that you could do, and this can

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<v Speaker 1>be really important for protecting your security and your privacy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it can also be used to hide your activity if

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<v Speaker 1>you're up to no good. So there is a double

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<v Speaker 1>edged sword here. But all of this really hinges on

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<v Speaker 1>having the VPN servers protected with encryption as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a good policy with regard to record keeping. So in general,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's considered best practice if the VPN is not

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<v Speaker 1>keeping activity log of its users, because if it is

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<v Speaker 1>keeping activity logs a compromise server, it could potentially reveal

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff that the users were up to when

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<v Speaker 1>connecting to that specific server. Well, in the Ukraine, authorities

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<v Speaker 1>seized a couple of VPN servers belonging to wind Scribe,

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<v Speaker 1>and those servers proved to be poorly encrypted using an

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<v Speaker 1>outdated methodology that has long since proven to be insecure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been deprecated. In other words, we don't use it

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<v Speaker 1>anymore because it's not reliable. The company has essentially copped

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<v Speaker 1>to that, saying yeah, that is what happened, and they

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<v Speaker 1>said that generally they encrypt servers that are considered to

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<v Speaker 1>be in like high risk security areas, but they failed

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<v Speaker 1>to do so appropriately in this case in the Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>which I would think of as being a high security

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<v Speaker 1>area considering the political issues that go on between the

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and say Russia, and this opened up the potential

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<v Speaker 1>for someone to compromise the system. And Ours Technica has

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<v Speaker 1>a really great piece about this. It's titled VPN servers

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<v Speaker 1>seized by Ukrainian authorities weren't Encrypted. That article goes into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more detail about both the issue at hand

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<v Speaker 1>and wind scribes response. Also. Ours Technica wisely points out

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<v Speaker 1>that VPN services have really taken off over the last

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<v Speaker 1>few years, and there are a lot of different companies

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<v Speaker 1>that are offering them, So it really pays to do

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<v Speaker 1>your research to make sure that whichever service you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>into is following the best practices of the industry in

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<v Speaker 1>order to keep your activity the way Gandolf would want

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<v Speaker 1>you to. You know, is it secret? Is it safe?

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<v Speaker 1>If it's not, don't use it. The Verge has a

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<v Speaker 1>piece titled Vigilante app Citizen is paying users to live

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<v Speaker 1>stream crime scenes and emergencies, which to me just sounds

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like the plot to the film Nightcrawler starring

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Jillenhall. If you haven't seen that movie, it's intense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not for everybody, but the movie follows Jake Jillenhall's character.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a man who finds out that he can make

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty decent money if he's the first on the

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<v Speaker 1>scene of like an awful accident or a grizzly crime,

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<v Speaker 1>and he shoots footage of it, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>he gets more and more involved as it goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't spoil any more of it in case you

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch it, but it is a pretty intense film. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now there's an app for that. The company behind Citizen

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<v Speaker 1>is offering between two hundred to two hundred fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a day for people to live stream quote unquote newsworthy

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<v Speaker 1>events in their local area, so creating kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>gig economy on on the ground instant reporting. The company

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<v Speaker 1>expects applicants to not just point a camera at like

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<v Speaker 1>a developing situation, but also to conduct interviews, like to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to witnesses and onlookers and the police. Now they're

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to interfere with police procedures or to put

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in harm's way, but they are supposed to interview folks. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is I feel like it's active asking a heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot from users. The skill set for being

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<v Speaker 1>a good interviewer is a really nuanced and deep skill set.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say this as someone who occasionally interviews folks

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<v Speaker 1>and I have for a few years, but I still

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've got a good way to go but

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<v Speaker 1>to become a really great interviewer. And it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>disastrous to open this up to me. Apparently, the company

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<v Speaker 1>has folks in Los Angeles working ten hour shifts for

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty bucks a day, which you know is better

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<v Speaker 1>than minimum wage, but I imagine the work can get

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<v Speaker 1>pretty risky for numerous reasons. Also, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>the company works as far as paying people, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're wandering around your area and it just happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be a quiet day, do you still get paid. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the Verge reports that there's some other disturbing things with this.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, Citizen, the company is apparently testing a private

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<v Speaker 1>security force, complete with patrol cars. Now Here in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, we're already in a situation in which a

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<v Speaker 1>large segment of the population is calling for police reform

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<v Speaker 1>or outright defunding the police, and it seems like creating

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<v Speaker 1>private security forces, particularly when you take into consideration that

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<v Speaker 1>Citizen used to go by the name Vigilante, can raise

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of red flags. Uh, certainly something that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be following closely because this concerns me. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it could very easily tip into mob justice territory, which

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<v Speaker 1>which which can be truly disastrous Here in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>During the previous presidential administration, the FCC launched the Rural

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<v Speaker 1>Digital Opportunity Fund, and the idea was that the FCC

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<v Speaker 1>would grant subsidies to companies that would extend broadband connectivity

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<v Speaker 1>to communities and agents in the US that lack broadband access.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, like, we need to get these people connected,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's an incentive for companies to to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll get these great subsidies in return, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good idea, except the r d o F was

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<v Speaker 1>riddled with flaws that made it relatively easy for companies

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<v Speaker 1>to land those subsidies and then you know, not actually

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<v Speaker 1>provide services to rural or underserved areas. Some companies instead

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<v Speaker 1>focused on building out services in places that actually already

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<v Speaker 1>had broadband access, and that has led the f c C,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course is now under new leadership because of

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<v Speaker 1>a change in presidential administrations, to reach out to the

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<v Speaker 1>companies that were granted subsidies and say, hey, buddy, either

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<v Speaker 1>do what you were supposed to do or we want

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<v Speaker 1>our money back. And I think that's pretty darn keene

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<v Speaker 1>as there are lots of folks out there who really

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<v Speaker 1>lack any real access to broadband connectivity, and yet internet

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<v Speaker 1>access is increasingly a critical component to being a citizen

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States and just getting stuff done, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in a world that is still in the midst of

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<v Speaker 1>a pandemic. When you have news stories about school kids

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<v Speaker 1>who have to go and sit in a parking lot

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the only way they're able to get internet

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<v Speaker 1>access in order to participate in school, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>serious failing of society and it's one that needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be addressed. The digital divide is not a new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been a thing for decades. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>getting better, and we need to do better. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple more stories to cover, but before I

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, let's take another quick break. The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times reports that a Toyota executive has been meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with congressional leaders in d C in a move to

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<v Speaker 1>push back against the planned path to adopting an all

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<v Speaker 1>all electric vehicle approach. And we're seeing various places around

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<v Speaker 1>the world go after fairly aggressive strategies to phase out

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<v Speaker 1>internal combustion engine vehicles entirely, at least for new vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>that is, and just move to all electric vehicles for

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<v Speaker 1>new cars. So to be clear, this doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, existing internal combustion engine vehicles are going to

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<v Speaker 1>all have to go to the scrap heap. No one's

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<v Speaker 1>coming to take your Dodge charger or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It just means that in the future, like not that

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<v Speaker 1>far out into the future, shopping for a new car

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<v Speaker 1>will be all about electric vehicles because internal combustion engines

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<v Speaker 1>will no longer be in production. Now, apparently Toyota would

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<v Speaker 1>really rather we hold off on doing that, as the

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<v Speaker 1>company executive is trying to argue for hybrids and hydrogen

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<v Speaker 1>fuel cell vehicles to also be part of this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and they should also qualify as replacements for internal combustion

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<v Speaker 1>engine vehicles, and that an all electric vehicle approach is

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<v Speaker 1>just the wrong way to go. This could be because

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<v Speaker 1>Toyota might be lagging behind some other manufacturers when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to, you know, the plans to switch to e

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<v Speaker 1>vs UH. I would say that including hybrids and fuel

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<v Speaker 1>cell vehicles in the conversation, is not necessarily a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They can definitely help reduce greenhouse gas emissions if they

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<v Speaker 1>are engineered properly, and they could have a legit seat

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<v Speaker 1>at the table when it comes to transitioning away from

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<v Speaker 1>internal combustion engines. However, Toyota's approach is one that's not

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<v Speaker 1>likely to win any supporters from those who want to

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<v Speaker 1>see big changes in an effort to reduce the impact

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<v Speaker 1>of climate change. So, in other words, it might just

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<v Speaker 1>come across as the wrong move. Toyota has had some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty notable, highly public pr issues in recent past that

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with politics, so we'll see if this

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<v Speaker 1>also adds to the fire. Intel, which was once the

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<v Speaker 1>king of the hill when it comes to computer processors,

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<v Speaker 1>has slipped a little bit in recent years, but according

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<v Speaker 1>to the company's Intel Accelerated Virtual Event, the company has

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<v Speaker 1>a plan to regain the top spot by and part

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<v Speaker 1>of that strategy is a drum roll, please, a new

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<v Speaker 1>way of naming processors. Now, a lot of chips reference

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, size of components on a processor in

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<v Speaker 1>the nanoscale, which is a number that just keeps getting

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<v Speaker 1>smaller in defiance of physics itself. But as I recently learned,

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers don't necessarily actually reflect the actual components sizes

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<v Speaker 1>on the chip. That's a matter for another podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna have to do a full podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>how misleading those numbers are because it surprised me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been covering this stuff for years, so I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do an episode about it. The new naming scheme will,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Intel, create quote, a more accurate view of

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<v Speaker 1>process nodes across the end of street end quote. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does that mean, I'm gonna pull a Teva from

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<v Speaker 1>Fiddler on the Roof. I don't know, but this might

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<v Speaker 1>help Intel move away from a nomenclature that is at

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<v Speaker 1>best confusing and at worst misleading, and it might give

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<v Speaker 1>the company the chance to show off what it's hardware

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<v Speaker 1>can do without someone saying, yeah, but that number of

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<v Speaker 1>a day is better than your number, and it comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to performance rather than naming conventions. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>and on that front, Intel's chips have been holding up

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well. Actually, honestly, I'm just curious to see if

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<v Speaker 1>this strategy is going to pay off for Intel the

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<v Speaker 1>processor industry as a whole, has had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>shake ups recently, in large part because the pandemic has

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<v Speaker 1>really disrupted business and caused massive delays for long term plans.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll just have to see how this all develops.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, speaking of electricity, Dell and its subsidiary alien Ware,

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<v Speaker 1>have a shocking problem, and that's the fact that several

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<v Speaker 1>of the new alien Ware products those are like high

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<v Speaker 1>performance gaming rigs that they exceed the power consumption regulations

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<v Speaker 1>for states like California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>which means people in those states cannot actually order those

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<v Speaker 1>particular models and have them shipped to them. The company's

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<v Speaker 1>website makes this clear for those specific models that if

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<v Speaker 1>you order one and you happen to have a shipping

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<v Speaker 1>address that's in one of those states, that order will

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<v Speaker 1>not go through. So while the computers might go fast

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<v Speaker 1>while they're sitting still, they ain't gonna be making their

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<v Speaker 1>way to those states, at least not directly, because the

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<v Speaker 1>power consumption levels are just too high. On the one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>this feels like it's just incredible access to me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have a computer that is so juiced up

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<v Speaker 1>for gaming that it's pulling way too much electricity, like

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<v Speaker 1>more than some of your other appliances in your home.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, I think this could be

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<v Speaker 1>a gold mine for advertising. I imagine it alien ware

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<v Speaker 1>the computer so fast it's illegal in six states. I mean, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not entirely accurate, but I think it could move units.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it for the Tech News for July one.

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<v Speaker 1>We will not have a tech News episode this Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a new episode of Smart Talks coming out,

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