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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Nathan CFL experience obviously speaks for itself. But

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Speaker 4: What was the experience for you like coming so close

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Speaker 2: I think the nature of our relationship it's not important.

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Speaker 3: They're only thirty two of them. One.

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Speaker 3: But that's really the breeding grounds for a lot of relationships.

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Speaker 3: What was learned about what'd you learn through the whole experience? Again,

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Speaker 2: He's never shielded anything for me, which to me made

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Speaker 3: The process those conversations.

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Speaker 3: So we prey for every scenario and that's what we did.

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Speaker 1: We're not with your consecutive of spring ball in some iteration, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and right now, Pat, I don't think there's anything

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Speaker 3: So you guys do a lot of stuff out there,

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Speaker 2: So i'd say with with Tyler, one can't talk about

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Speaker 3: Because the tapspeaks for itself. And so I'm glad he's here.

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Speaker 2: When you meet him, you know, he has one of

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Speaker 2: A leak I'd like to call him, He's just got

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Speaker 2: you know, Jesse was heavily involved with Malik. Still is

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Speaker 2: So to me, you know Malik as a player. The

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Speaker 3: And that's what you want at a guy you take

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Speaker 2: Too, the projection when they come out on here, they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan, I think you know it's a small sample

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Speaker 4: You almost need to be cost controlled because it's thirty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you see where the wave is going. You know,

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Speaker 2: Young guys that are durable, and I think the way

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