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Speaker 2: The World's a Vigeonal podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: Prediatrick Mahomes and Josh Allen AFC. Like, what's even the

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Speaker 3: point right now?

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Speaker 4: Like why are we even trying?

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Speaker 5: Like like his his a dots like dead last in

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Speaker 5: the league. He's not throwing at average depth of target.

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Speaker 4: I don't carey.

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Speaker 2: Week one was pretty enjoyable, Okay, it was. It was

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Speaker 2: a tractor pole week one. It was an most enjoyable

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Speaker 5: And then if you go into twenty twenty five without

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Speaker 5: having any of these answers, and that's he's a red

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Speaker 5: shirt rookie at that point, so it's really that's his

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Speaker 5: rookie season essentially too.

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Speaker 4: So now we're really not talking about them, really knowing

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Speaker 4: they are until six, Like I'm just looking at Fred's fall,

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Speaker 4: you know, the voice of reason, Paul, I've never want

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Speaker 4: to be confused with that.

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Speaker 2: Let me make that progression. How do you think, oh

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at Gillette Stadium. We're here for the next two hours

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Speaker 2: talking Patriots.

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Speaker 4: We had a.

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Speaker 2: Spirited discussion yesterday. I hope we can live up to

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Speaker 2: that one today. It's me and Paul, will be joined

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Speaker 2: by Duce and Evan later. They got some live things

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Speaker 2: they have to take care of right now, but we'll

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Speaker 2: jump right into it. Paul, you listen to Coach Mayo's

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Speaker 2: press conference today. Any anything you gleaned out of that

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Speaker 2: of news?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there were a couple of things. First, just

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Speaker 4: from a news standpoint. He Gerrod opened by explaining that

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Speaker 4: Joan Bentley will indeed go to injury reserve later today.

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Speaker 2: Is that season ending?

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Speaker 4: I would assume he didn't clarify, but I think that

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Speaker 4: that is going to be season And he talked to

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Speaker 4: Bentley a little bit about this beforehand, explained how he

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Speaker 4: had this situation with himself in his career as a

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Speaker 4: captain being injured, and Belichick had talked to him he

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Speaker 4: wants to replace the captain, So Kyle Dugger is now

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Speaker 4: Bentley not around right now as much. He's going through

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Speaker 4: the rehab process, going to have surgery and whatnot. So

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Speaker 4: Mayo felt it was important to replace that leadership in

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Speaker 4: the room. Kyle Dugger is the guy who replaces him.

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Speaker 4: So that was sort of the you know, the administrative

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Speaker 4: in the press conference itself was he was asked a

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Speaker 4: quarterback to the roster. You know, for obvious reasons. We've

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Speaker 4: talked about ad nauseum. No, he does not have any

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Speaker 4: middle of the exchange with Phil Perry, Nicole Yang asked

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Speaker 4: Giardy sort of added still seventy thirty in terms of

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Speaker 4: about that's strictly with the ones. You know. In addition

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Speaker 4: to that, may is also doing a lot of Scout

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Speaker 4: Milton have been you know, Geno Smith and Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: there's still a lot of value that can be had.

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Speaker 4: So those are the two takeaways I had from the

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Speaker 4: he spaid specifically that he's practiced well.

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Speaker 2: Didn't no one ask how's he doing behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: You know, no one unless I missed it, you know,

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Speaker 4: Just you know, we must have had a pretty good

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Speaker 4: on the Sports Hub by My Boys, on My Show

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Speaker 4: with Mike and Tony with Greg Bdard. Now and listen.

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Speaker 4: I'm being obviously facetious. It's not like we broke it.

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Speaker 4: You know, we broke down new ground yesterday talking there's

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Speaker 4: that's what Greg Bard was talking about. I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: So I'm thinking he said he thinks they need to

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Speaker 4: He said they think that they can't run the same

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Speaker 4: Which is something I said when they hired Alex van Pelt,

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Speaker 4: I don't like that style first.

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Speaker 2: Is that something you read from Badard or is that

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Speaker 2: something you just came up with? And then Badard listened

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Speaker 2: it's not brain surgery. Yeah, And I'm know what's coming

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Speaker 4: That, and I'm not dismissing anyone's theories. I think it's

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Speaker 4: good analysis. I think, you know, listening to Greg a

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Speaker 4: play action, that's the play action that they go off of.

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Speaker 4: So they're running the best running plays are you know,

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Speaker 4: of course Greg has to get go all Evan on you.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's run scheme ahead, but they're straight ahead

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Speaker 2: Well. So maybe me included what's the difference between just

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Speaker 4: It's just it's but if you're if you're Greg's point

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Speaker 4: It's almost like when they do that, it's a play action,

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Speaker 2: That seems to be easily remedied.

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Speaker 4: So I actually thought, I think, like the pressure, the

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Speaker 4: they can't play action because they you know, they're getting

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Speaker 4: too much pressure on all passes right now. There's too

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Speaker 4: but I wouldn't. We have to be prepared to fix that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, really, if you're the Patriots coaches, you

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Speaker 4: And I do think that. You know, we talk a

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Speaker 4: and everything, and those are important. I'm not dismissing them.

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Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff that's a problem right now

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Speaker 2: And that can be the simple bottom line.

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Speaker 4: You know, their receivers aren't as good as the guys

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Speaker 4: we can sit here and put it all on Alex

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Speaker 4: about being easy to defend. I don't know how you

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Speaker 4: just magically scheme around that all the time. You can

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Speaker 4: No I know, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You don't need to score points to beat them. That's

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Speaker 2: It's all relative.

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Speaker 4: But if they're gonna play with with Tim Boyle or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were up by fourteen and the fourth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So the guys will be here shortly.

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Speaker 4: Just you know, sort of spitball. And we could do

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Speaker 2: It's fun.

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Speaker 4: The Coleman Electric and the Day.

439
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Speaker 2: What I think makes it work. I would assume that

440
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes they've got somebody looking at all these

441
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Speaker 2: emails and bubbling up the best and usually there's stuff ripping.

442
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike always picks stuff that people.

443
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: Are making fun of Mike, and I think that's good.

444
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, I think it's funny.

445
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love getting made fun of well, and we

446
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: love when emailers make fun of each other.

447
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 4: Let's face it, we're easy target, right, I mean I

448
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 4: won't speak for everybody else. I'm a pretty easy target.

449
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Speaker 2: But you know, just because your shows do it a

450
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: certain way, it doesn't mean our show.

451
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Speaker 4: We don't have to do it the same way. But

452
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: I think it's a good idea for revenue.

453
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Speaker 2: Listen, Like I said, you know, get on more for me.

454
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Speaker 2: If Wiz Knifa is listening.

455
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Speaker 4: The unrecord Email of the Day.

456
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Speaker 2: Email a day caller of the day, we could have

457
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Speaker 2: you know, whatever of the day.

458
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Speaker 4: You know, you don't find me as funny as I do.

459
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay. So so weekly newsletter and then in

460
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 2: the off season we'll probably send it out monthly. But

461
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Speaker 2: that maybe we do that weekly. Maybe we do it weekly.

462
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Speaker 4: See if it's a hit, you know.

463
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Speaker 2: No, it's not like the news, you know when the

464
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: shows don't stop in the off season.

465
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Speaker 4: No, we don't stop. We won't stop.

466
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Speaker 2: We're always talking Patriots, all right. So that's that. Uh

467
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Speaker 2: eight five five pass five hundred is the TPX hotline

468
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: web radio at Patriots dot com. Is the email address?

469
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Speaker 2: Red Sox still in it.

470
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you those plucky Red Sox mathematically eliminated moving

471
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Speaker 4: to I don't know, within ten games below five hundred

472
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Speaker 4: since the All Star I'll tell you got to admire

473
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: the grit, got to admire the grit.

474
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Speaker 2: Okay.

475
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Speaker 4: Raphael devis on IR.

476
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Speaker 2: You know. So while we're waiting for the guys, the

477
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: emails are coming in all different subjects. A lot of

478
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Speaker 2: people have comments on the postgame show.

479
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 4: Paul not happy with the postgame.

480
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Speaker 2: Well, no, it's not that they're they like to nitpick though,

481
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Speaker 2: you know, can you do this? Can you do that? Oh?

482
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm always I'm always willing to listen to better

483
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Speaker 4: ideas well.

484
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Speaker 2: Bethany from Ontario, Ontario. She says, I've been listening for

485
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Speaker 2: a few years now, first time emailer. I wanted to

486
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: make a few comments on the postgame show. She says

487
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: Matt Smith needs to relax. He acts like the show

488
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: is an extended interview rather than in a conversation, always

489
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Speaker 2: trying to push to the next thing, ask the next question,

490
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Speaker 2: get to the next guy. Podcasts and the show has

491
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Speaker 2: always seemed to be more of a conversation. And that's

492
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Speaker 2: not the feeling the new host gives you. Guys like

493
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Speaker 2: a question and have a lot to say, take as

494
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Speaker 2: much time as you want to answer and debate. We

495
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Speaker 2: don't need to rush to a new one.

496
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Speaker 4: I think that's yeah, very fair.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know if Matt's listening. He's probably

498
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Speaker 2: not listening.

499
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Speaker 4: It's probably not.

500
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Speaker 2: Others have already mentioned cutting into the good, the bad,

501
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Speaker 2: and the injured, so I won't harp on that. But

502
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Speaker 2: he also cuts off callers and drops them before they

503
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Speaker 2: have a chance to respond to the pfw s cruise

504
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Speaker 2: takes or ask a second question if they have one.

505
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Speaker 4: Now that one I disagree with. Okay, I think he

506
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Speaker 4: gives the call it. I mean, I think at times

507
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Speaker 4: our calls go too long, So I like that, but

508
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Speaker 4: I would agree with the other part. And we've talked

509
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Speaker 4: about it, and as we speak, the other member of

510
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Speaker 4: the eight team.

511
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Speaker 2: Just finishing up. She says, all in all, he's not

512
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Speaker 2: doing terribly but needs to relax. I started watching football

513
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Speaker 2: just in the last ten years in the PO crew

514
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: has taught me a lot about the game, and the

515
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: team still doesn't understand three four and what Evan talks

516
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: about really appreciate all of your hard work and the

517
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: different perspectives and the pregame perfect example that they won't

518
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Speaker 2: pay for a real humorous host.

519
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so. I know he's going to cry him.

520
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: You know, he's going to cry himself to sleep. So

521
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say that didn't seem like it needs.

522
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Speaker 2: No right, So just what's up.

523
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Speaker 3: We just got back from the locker room. Yeah, so

524
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Speaker 3: Kyle Duggar had a hard time hearing him. He's got

525
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Speaker 3: a deep bass in his voice. If you're not right, next,

526
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Speaker 3: Artrell Hawkins Heart Archill Hawkins, good Paul, remember two thousand

527
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Speaker 3: and six. His voice deep deep, But I wasn't you know, Tamara,

528
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Speaker 3: she burrows into the scrums. She's able to get the

529
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Speaker 3: mic up. So if you're caught on the outside of

530
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Speaker 3: the scrum, though, it's just that that deep voice, you

531
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Speaker 3: can't really So I assume that he was excited to

532
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Speaker 3: be named captain today and he's looking forward to taking

533
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Speaker 3: on some additional leadership responsibilities. I'll review the tape, as

534
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Speaker 3: Evan likes to say, afterwards, and uh and see. But otherwise,

535
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Speaker 3: uh no, not a lot going on, a lot of scrumsk.

536
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Speaker 2: The elevation of Doug Art a captain, and I know

537
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Speaker 2: Bentley's injury prompted it, but do you think there's a

538
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Speaker 2: secondary thing, like we needed to step up a little bit?

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Speaker 3: I like that, Fred. I didn't even that didn't even

540
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Speaker 3: occur to me, But I like that because I do

541
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Speaker 3: feel that way. I feel. You know, this is a

542
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Speaker 3: guy you gave a you know what, a three year

543
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Speaker 3: deal too. I mean, he's a piece that you're investing

544
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Speaker 3: in that you want to build on, and there's just

545
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 3: continues to be too many kind of brain farts with him.

546
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Speaker 3: You know, it's just time to time. Ever since even

547
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Speaker 3: his rookie year, you know, you'd you'd feel he'd have

548
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Speaker 3: a couple of good games. You'd feel excited. He might

549
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Speaker 3: you know, make an interception or make a play on

550
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Speaker 3: the ball and you know, make a big hit or

551
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: but then you'd see him struggling in coverage, you know,

552
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 3: to catch up or giving up a key key completion

553
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: at a at a at a significant point in the game.

554
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Speaker 3: So I like that. I think that's a good uh,

555
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: you know, maybe a good message. As you know with

556
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Speaker 3: out Bentley, we need you to step up and know

557
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: Mayo talked a little bit about the communication, which we

558
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: talked about yesterday, can be a lot for some guys.

559
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Speaker 3: So I think they have some confidence in him with

560
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: the communication and wearing the green dot and that kind

561
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Speaker 3: of stuff. So I think that might be part of

562
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Speaker 3: it too. But I think that's a really, really good

563
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Speaker 3: observation by you.

564
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the questions about him sort of moving positions,

565
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: like like he's not just going to like magically become

566
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Speaker 4: a full time Jawan Bentley.

567
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Speaker 8: Middle linebacker, who was saying that, No, it was one

568
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Speaker 8: of the questions that was one of the questions and

569
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Speaker 8: I kind of romize and then and then Mayo says,

570
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 8: you know, he likes to do these little football nuggets

571
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 8: where he's like, anytime a safety walks down into the box,

572
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 8: he's kind of a linebacker, And I'm like a link

573
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Speaker 8: you he's an a linebacker.

574
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's not going to be a middle linebacker.

575
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Speaker 4: I mean, right right now, Jawan Bentley's like two hundred

576
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 4: and fifty pounds, Like he's a big middle line like

577
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: Brandon Spikes, those kinds of guys.

578
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Speaker 3: And usually when you see it happen with Marty map

579
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Speaker 3: Whu or Doug Er, it's because they're going to cover

580
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Speaker 3: a running back. You know, they're getting over the running

581
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 3: they're getting ready to take him in subpackage and they're

582
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 3: in Manta man on either the running back or the

583
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: tight end right.

584
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Speaker 2: Or they you know, they could be a run blitz

585
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: situation or.

586
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 4: Something like that. And Doug's very good at that to

587
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: your point, Freddy, I mean, he's very good around the

588
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage coming forward. I always think Douger is

589
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: much better when he's moving forward.

590
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, backward, that's fair, that's fair.

591
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Speaker 2: We talked about uh Mayo's press cottage. You heard it

592
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Speaker 2: as well, anything that you took out from it, No, No,

593
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Speaker 2: you know.

594
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Speaker 3: I mean I I think this is what is it like?

595
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: Non negotiables, these things a kind of going back to

596
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Speaker 3: re establish who we want to be going into a

597
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: game like this, and you know, kind of reflecting on

598
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 3: our show yesterday a little bit like I was just

599
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: I kind of having trouble, like getting really upset right

600
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: now about the team. Like I just I kind of

601
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: feel like this is what it's going to be like

602
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: the rebuilding, Like there's gonna be weeks where they look

603
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: like they got nothing like Sharon Hi, It's totally Sharon

604
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: High which I'll be calling. Tune in sharing TV eight

605
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: on Friday night at five thirty. I'll be broadcasting the

606
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: Attleborough game.

607
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: Now, profession that's going to be that's going to be

608
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Speaker 4: a game.

609
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: Of course not but I'm I'm on the board, so

610
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: you know.

611
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: I'm on the board.

612
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: We're grooming young children like a free hot dog shoot man.

613
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't want to work that into my contract.

614
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: I don't even know, but you.

615
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: Know, ready, welcome to Sharon High School. I Mike Youse,

616
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: Reaudable Hawk, I Moocka League action tonight between.

617
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Speaker 3: The Marauders the something or others that might be North

618
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: battle Borough.

619
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Speaker 2: It was like twelve people.

620
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Speaker 4: Uh.

621
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Speaker 3: But I think getting back, uh, just getting back to

622
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: the basics for this team, and that's you know, it's like,

623
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Speaker 3: I don't know what they're going to be. I don't

624
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: know how good they're really going to be. But at

625
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: least this week, can we just not have free rushers

626
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: running right up the gut and you know, just the

627
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: stupid mistakes that any team should be able to clear.

628
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what it looks like if they do

629
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: play those. I guess I do know what it looks like.

630
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: It looks like week one, right, Like, that's what it

631
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: looks like week one, if you're able to play clean

632
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: like that. But I think that's got to be the

633
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: message because they're up against it this week against San Francisco. Man,

634
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: if they don't, you know, if they don't bring a

635
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: good fundamental game, it's it could be ugly. It's ten

636
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: and a half, ten and a half points. I mean,

637
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: it's pretty that's that's I mean. I don't remember what

638
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: the spreads were last year, but maybe.

639
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: There's only one or two time they've been double digit

640
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: underdogs since the century. In the century.

641
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: I believe it.

642
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: I believe it.

643
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: I mean I want to see it.

644
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: I would imagine that maybe either all of them came

645
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: in two thousand and then the last four years, right.

646
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: Well, probably last year it was one, and then probably

647
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 4: in two thousand there was one or two. I think

648
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: the Colts in two thousand was one. Yeah, maybe even

649
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: oh one.

650
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna ask me to remember back then?

651
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: Come on, no, so what so what was the consist

652
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: So I have a question for you.

653
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Speaker 2: You on yesterday's show, you made the point. It wasn't

654
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: a point. It was like, you know, something you were

655
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: thinking about. You know, maybe in the background they're coming

656
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Speaker 2: up with this other offense that Drake made for Drake

657
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Speaker 2: May blah blah blah. Yeah. And then I was listening

658
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Speaker 2: to Paul's show this, but Dodd was almost verbatim saying

659
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Speaker 2: what you said. So I'm thinking, did Mike read that

660
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Speaker 2: something or no?

661
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Speaker 4: I credit you.

662
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Speaker 3: I mean I I kind of took it from what

663
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: you were saying of if they try to put Drake

664
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Speaker 3: May into this offense, it's not gonna work. So I

665
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Speaker 3: credit I point back to you and your initials.

666
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Speaker 2: Just be great minds thinking of I think so, I.

667
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Speaker 3: Mean, it's all from a seed that you planned Fred,

668
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: which just happened many times before. But yeah, I mean, I.

669
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Speaker 2: Paul thinks that, but DoD just watched.

670
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Speaker 4: Well, I do think that because Greg has told me

671
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Speaker 4: that he was we're thought leaders. I'd like to take

672
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Speaker 4: that as a complement.

673
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not. I'm only kidding Greg, but

674
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Speaker 2: like it makes sense for anyone to think that.

675
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean, I'm thinking more about it.

676
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Speaker 3: It's just like every quarterback has the offense kind of

677
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: tailored to them along the way, right, Like Brady probably

678
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: got in it wasn't tailor to him, but then you know,

679
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: cut to the end of the thing, it's all tailored

680
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Speaker 3: to him. So that's the direction any good offense should go.

681
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Speaker 3: And your thought of trying to pigeon shoehorn in Drake

682
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Speaker 3: may into this offense, you know. And I got to

683
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Speaker 3: imagine if I was Draw Mayo interviewing Alex Van Pelt

684
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: last spring and said, look, we're going to draft a quarterback.

685
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Speaker 3: Are you going to be ready to develop that kid

686
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Speaker 3: into something new and not just here's our playbook, this

687
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Speaker 3: is what he's going to be.

688
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Speaker 4: Running for How are you going to maximize his potential?

689
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Speaker 4: What are you going to do to make him better?

690
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Speaker 2: What are you going to do to make him better?

691
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Speaker 2: But again, like we said yesterday, there's other people on

692
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Speaker 2: this offense. So if what they're doing right now under

693
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Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett is so different than what they're going to

694
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Speaker 2: do when Drake May gets and that's a disservice to

695
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Speaker 2: the current players out there on the field.

696
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Speaker 4: And I don't as long as Alex van Pelt is

697
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Speaker 4: running the offense, I do not think it will be

698
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Speaker 4: all that much different. I don't, I think. But the

699
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Speaker 4: other part of what you just said I find interesting

700
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Speaker 4: is there's other guys on the offense. I don't think,

701
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Speaker 4: as an example, the offensive lineman, the individual offensive linemen

702
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: are best suited for that system either. Yeah, you know,

703
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Speaker 4: Michael Wenny is one that we talk about all the

704
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: time as a bit bigger, sort of roadue grader, and

705
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Speaker 4: then you're asking him to get on the move and

706
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Speaker 4: work that way, work laterally instead of north south. So

707
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Speaker 4: I don't think that's probably in the best interest either. Now,

708
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Speaker 4: it's a good system, I mean, we can all there's

709
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Speaker 4: a lot of offenses around.

710
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Speaker 2: For it, Like some people tell me it's antiquated a

711
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Speaker 2: little bit.

712
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. It seems to work pretty well

713
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Speaker 4: and you know other other locales.

714
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Speaker 2: But isn't I heard that the a VP system isn't exactly.

715
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Speaker 4: It's not, it's not. Well, that's the difference between you.

716
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Speaker 2: Got a lot of West Coast principles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll figure out what a VP is. As a

718
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Speaker 4: play call. I have three games to go off. Yeah,

719
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Speaker 4: I mean I Sean McVay, you know, Kyle Shanahan, even

720
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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor, you know, uh, you know Lafleur, Green Bay.

721
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Speaker 4: Maybe dogger wrench, dodger wrench, you can dodge a ball

722
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: like Ye, there's the principles of that system have been

723
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Speaker 4: successful around the league. We'll see if Alex van pel

724
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: can be successful with them. They're not very successful in

725
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Speaker 4: Cleveland with or without Van Pelt.

726
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Speaker 3: Right now, I just I think this is a little

727
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: bit where I feel out of my depth in that

728
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Speaker 3: what's the difference between a scheme and a playbook and

729
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: plays and you know, all these schemes are the same,

730
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: but yet they're all different. And so who's to say

731
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Speaker 3: that there aren't parts of this playbook that fit Drake

732
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: May well, and there are also parts of the playbook

733
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Speaker 3: that might fit your Kobe Brissette a little bit better

734
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Speaker 3: at this point. You know, I don't know.

735
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Speaker 4: I just if you have Drake may under center a

736
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: lot of the time, yeah, yeah, I don't think way to.

737
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Speaker 4: I don't think that that maximizes his skill set. I'm

738
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Speaker 4: not saying, yeah, you got to go all college and

739
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: just have him in the shotgun every play, because I

740
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 4: don't think that works in the NFL either. But if

741
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: you're just going to insist on running seventy five eighty

742
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: percent under center, I don't think that's the best way

743
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Speaker 4: to get something.

744
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: I get worried. Like in today's NFL, an offensive system

745
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: that relies on you running the ball well in order

746
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: for your offense to work, I think that's that's scary.

747
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: In today's This isn't like the early two thousands in

748
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 2: Denver with you know.

749
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Speaker 9: It's a good it's a good picks It's system, which

750
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 9: goes back to you know, the Niners days with Walsh

751
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 9: and already.

752
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's things are different because it just seems

753
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: to me, if teams want to stop the run, they're

754
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 2: going to stop the run.

755
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: You know, I kind of think it's one of those things.

756
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: It's kind of a mindset, like I'm just gonna just say, Okay,

757
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: you're not gonna run the ball anymore on me if

758
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 4: I if I choose to do that, and I'm gonna

759
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: load up the box, I'm gonna just play run and

760
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make sure you don't run. Why do you

761
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: think it's so hard for teams at the end of

762
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Speaker 4: the game when they just need a first down to

763
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Speaker 4: end it. Why do you think it's so hard to

764
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: just line up?

765
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Speaker 2: I know see that running the ball dependency only works

766
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: if your defense is above average and can keep that

767
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: score down because you're If not, then you're gonna fall behind. Probably.

768
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Speaker 4: No, But like Baltimore, right, the Ravens the other day,

769
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: they're as good running the football as any team, right.

770
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Speaker 2: But they haven't every quarterback.

771
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Speaker 4: No, no, but my point, I'm agreeing with you. If

772
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: you just give me five seconds. Okay, Baltimore is as

773
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: good as anybody running the football. But all of a sudden,

774
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: you know, the roof is caving in on I'm it

775
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: goes from twenty eight to six to twenty eight, twenty

776
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 4: five at the end of the game. They have three plays.

777
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 4: They just need to get a first down and get

778
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 4: the hell out of Dallas with a win. They didn't

779
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: line up and run it because they couldn't. They ran

780
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: it all day for like two hundred yards. Dereck Henry

781
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: had a big game. Lamar was Lamar. But at the

782
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: end of the game, when you're just lining up and

783
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: running it between the tackles to try to run out

784
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: the clock, Henry almost fumbled on one of the plays.

785
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: He got hit at the line. He jumped over a

786
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: guy and the ball was kind of loose. What did

787
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: they have to do? It was like third and seven.

788
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: They had to throw a past as a Flowers to

789
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: end the game. Because when the other team knows you're

790
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: running and they just decided you're not running, right, In

791
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: general terms, it's very hard to run in those situations.

792
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: It's not impossible. Saw the Patriots do it opening week

793
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: against Cincinnati. I think that had more to do, especially

794
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: based on what we've seen since with Cincinnati than anything else.

795
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: But even the Shanahan Tree offenses, and so you're talking

796
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: McVeigh and all those those aren't they don't rely on

797
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: the running game, right, Aren't they pass first?

798
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: Teams. No, no, no, definitely not San Francisco. Yeah, well

799
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: they want to run.

800
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: The McCaffrey's a different animal though, you know, but when

801
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: he's on the field, you don't know what he's gonna do.

802
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: You illustrated the point I made ten minutes into this

803
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: show before, Like you can sit here and say, well,

804
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: we don't have a left tackle it. You know, I

805
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: have a hard time killing Alex van Pelt because when

806
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 4: your guys just do as good as the guys they're blocking,

807
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 4: and you guys just done as good as the guys

808
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 4: that are covering them, Like what do you do? Like,

809
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 4: how do you just You can't mask mask it with

810
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: every play you can scheme it up. And you know, Jaco,

811
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: we just talked about that nice play action they hit

812
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 4: with the Mario Douglas. I think it was a twenty

813
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: two yard game. You can get a play here or

814
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 4: there because you trick them, but you can't trick them

815
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: for sixty straight plays. Right, Sometimes you guys have to

816
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 4: be better than their guys, and they don't have enough

817
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: guys that are that are on par with the other guys.

818
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: Right.

819
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: I think it's hard for Joe and it's hard for

820
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: this offense. It feels like they're starting at like base

821
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: level of this offense and where San Francisco, They've got

822
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: so many tweaks in and I mean, you heard them

823
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: talk about it in the press conference this morning. There's

824
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: so much window dressing, but they all know what they

825
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: want to do, and it feels like this Patriots team

826
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: is kind of starting ground zero. Where to the point

827
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: we just talked about, they are starting off the wide

828
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: zone and everything has to look the same like the

829
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: wide zone, and if the wide zone is successful, then

830
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: we get into play action. But it feels like if

831
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: you can't run that wide zone off the right from

832
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: the get go, nothing else is gonna work.

833
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 4: And that's the part that I thought was interesting that

834
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: Greg talked about yesterday. We said it before you got him, Mike,

835
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 4: just about they haven't been able to establish any wide

836
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: zone and now they're not really running a lot of

837
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: wide zone running plays, but when they go play action,

838
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: it's off of the wide zone. So it's almost telling

839
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 4: the defense this is going to be a I don't

840
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 4: worry about the play action we're gonna run here, because

841
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: we're not gonna run it. We're just going to throw

842
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 4: it and They're coming after him. First play of the game,

843
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: he gets killed off a play action.

844
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: Right turn around right there. It can't happen one other

845
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: Just side point I was going to make too about

846
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: the the Shanahan offense is I just remember in Denver

847
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen and high Tower went out and then

848
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: it was open season, you know, against the Patriots defense.

849
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: I think they lost that game, maybe an overtime. It

850
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: was like a forty eight yard run something like that

851
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: in Denver. You know what I'm talking about, Harper's muff game.

852
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: Harper's muff.

853
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, games with names.

854
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

855
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: Part of that is having that middle linebacker like Juwan.

856
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: Bounley and maybe not having a practice squad call up

857
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: back to receive a punch in the snow. We were

858
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: fourteen in the fourth quarter.

859
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: Thought weren't supposed to talk about Harpers muff anymore.

860
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: I'm just, you know, off the top of my head

861
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: throwing these things out there because that may have may

862
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: or may not have happened. You may not have lost

863
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: to brock Osweiler.

864
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Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, let's get to some of the listeners.

865
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Speaker 2: The TPX hotline is eight five to five past five

866
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: hundred web radio at patches dot com as the email address.

867
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Speaker 2: We'll go to Brad in Ohio.

868
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Speaker 10: What's up, Brad, Hi, Good morning guys. How you doing today?

869
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Speaker 2: Good? Great?

870
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Speaker 7: Good?

871
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Speaker 10: So anyway, uh take some insight on some things that

872
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 10: you guys always.

873
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 7: Talk about and so, so, Jakoby Myers has had like

874
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 7: plenty of time for him to throw the ball, right,

875
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 7: I mean that he's got three seconds back, they're like

876
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 7: sometimes even four.

877
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: I've counted Jakobe Brissett. Yeah, yeah, No, he's not been

878
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: afforded that much time.

879
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 10: I've got no time.

880
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 11: No.

881
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not telling you every single play, but

882
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: he's been pressured on a percentage basis more than any

883
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 4: quarterback in football.

884
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. But what I don't know is how much it's not.

885
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: You know that.

886
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 10: I noticed that sometimes they look at the first three

887
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 10: eve and then but if they were to just look

888
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 10: at the opposite side of the field, there's guys wide open.

889
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 10: I mean examples of that.

890
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: Could be deceptive sometimes too.

891
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: If that's not the play, then the guy's going to

892
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: be open because the defense knows where everybody is.

893
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: You have to know where the quarterback sizes are, what

894
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: his reeds are, you know.

895
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 4: Like I'm not telling you Jacoby Brissett's play great because

896
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 4: I don't think he has. But this isn't on him.

897
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 10: Can they go backwards in their reads either? It either

898
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 10: Drake made plays I know, just the ones that he

899
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 10: missed that Drake was like not even looking at the

900
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 10: people that were open.

901
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 7: Drake was in there.

902
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: I know, Thanks Brad.

903
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: I guess we're just going to continue to say things

904
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: now I can be disregardless, but.

905
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: Overall this is stuff that only the coaches know for sure.

906
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: But like when you see those replays and you see

907
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: guys wide open and the plays happening, you need to

908
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: pair it up with you know, when did the ball

909
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: get released? When did the defender come often because he

910
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: knew the play wasn't going there, so like I don't

911
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: need to worry about it. And what was the initial

912
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: read for the quarterback? Like did he even have time

913
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: to look at that side of the field?

914
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 4: And if he's supposed to do something, you can't just

915
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: do the opposite because the other guys open over the right.

916
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 4: Like you're supposed to go through your progressions and there's

917
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: a there's absolutely you know a one two three or whatever.

918
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: There's things that you're supposed to do. And if you're

919
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 4: going one way, let's just say you're looking right, because

920
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: the play is designed for something that's that's on the

921
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: right side, and it's not there. Then you turn back

922
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: left and the guys open. What happens on those.

923
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: Throws, many guys are going to come on or run

924
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: and pick it off right.

925
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: I think you know when you're late to the outside,

926
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 4: that's what happens. And Fred's absolutely right. There's a lot

927
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: of I hate again, I hate the clips that show

928
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: me how open guys are. Watch this guy get watch

929
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 4: the quarterback's eyes or over here. You don't think the

930
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: defensive back sees that.

931
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, and.

932
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: I'm not telling you can't. Like, if you had great time,

933
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: great pass protection, maybe you're getting to your third fourth

934
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: read and you can come backside and readjust reset and

935
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: make make some plays. But that's hard.

936
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: Just some of the stuff I've picked out over the

937
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: ears is there are times when you're not even you're

938
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 3: you're looking side. You have you're playing man beaters on

939
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: one side and zone beaters on the right, and if

940
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: you get zone, you're playing the right side the whole time.

941
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: No matter what happens. On that last side, you're almost

942
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: disregarding it. So I hate that stuff. But I will

943
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 3: say there are plays like that second downplay to Hooper

944
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: where there it is he's staring them down, and those

945
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: are the plays that happened a lot of it. There

946
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: are some throws that need to be made that I

947
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: you know, I've been a little disappointed with Jacobe because

948
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 3: I just I know how hard it is for him

949
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: right now. But you need to be able to pull

950
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 3: some of those plays out the layups to keep them honest,

951
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: you know, when we don't even hit the layups.

952
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 4: It was a great keip of Cleveland and the Giants.

953
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: There was a fourth and one late in the game

954
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: that Cleveland somehow got back in that game. Had the

955
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: ball down six and there's a fourth and one around

956
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: the forty forty five yard line and they have like

957
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: two to the to the right hand side, and clearly

958
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 4: it's a quick It's supposed to be a quick throw

959
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: right out. You're going to have the inside slot. You know,

960
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: they're crossing, so they're looking for a wash a rub

961
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 4: and the guy underneath is immediately breaks open. The throw

962
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 4: needed to come immediately. He was open, Yeah, and then

963
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 4: he waits. He's looking for the slants from the outside guy,

964
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: which was kind of covered, and he holds the ball

965
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: and then the Giants kill him. So I'm not telling

966
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 4: you that Brissette has been flawless like Watson on that play.

967
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: I think needed to get the all out quickly to

968
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was a back or a

969
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: slot receiver, but in the flat and not only he

970
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 4: would have had an easy first down, he probably would

971
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: add about fifteen yards because he broke free immediately. So

972
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: I think there have been times that Bresset to the

973
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 4: was it Brad just called? To Brad's point, I think

974
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: there's times that Brissett has missed a quick one, but

975
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 4: not necessarily backside, like that's not quick if he's looking

976
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: the wrong you know, if he's looking the other way,

977
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: that's he doesn't have enough time to get to that read.

978
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: But I do think there have been you know, Polk, Douglas,

979
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: probably Henry have been opened quickly and he hasn't gotten

980
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 4: the ball to him.

981
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: And then the hope would be that they're going to

982
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: evolve and they're going to see those things and they're

983
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: gonna say we have to lean more into these plays

984
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: because it's so hard right now for this offense to

985
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: have plus plays. Even you can't afford to leave ones

986
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 3: out on the field when they're there for the taken.

987
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: Let's see Jeffrey and Canada said, just check my local listings.

988
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: And because this is a Fox game, this is the

989
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: first time in probably twenty five years I can remember,

990
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: I will not be able to watch the Patriots live

991
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: sign of the times for this organization. So for this

992
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: selfish reason, please feel free to keep for set in

993
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: for one more week. How does that? I don't understand.

994
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: Where is he?

995
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: Does he not want to watch?

996
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: No, he can't watch that. He doesn't have Fox. So

997
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 4: he says, keep her sett in so he doesn't miss May.

998
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: Oh he's got to miss the game. He can't watch it. Oh,

999
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 4: so he doesn't want them to play May he doesn't

1000
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: want to miss May.

1001
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: Get it? I get it? Okay, thank you, right, yeah,

1002
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: you got it. My question. I seem to recall there

1003
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: was a deal where Elliott Wolfe's contract needed to extend

1004
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: or be made permanent, and it was after the draft.

1005
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: This was due to happen. Did that happen? Is Elliot

1006
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: the official guy? I thought they'd have done the search

1007
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: and satisfy rules, et cetera.

1008
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they made the announcement. Forget what the exact date was,

1009
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: but I think executive vice president.

1010
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 4: Player personally, that was the one that had the duties

1011
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: in it, like he has final say over the fifty

1012
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: three man roster and blah blah blah. May ish May

1013
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: sometime in May. Yeah, not Drake May the month of May.

1014
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: Now mayo Eduardo right, Sin, he's in la I just

1015
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: want to ask, can either Taekwon or Pop be used

1016
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 2: more like gadget guys, like how the Packers use read

1017
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: Maybe it can add stress to the defense getting the

1018
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: ball in the hands of Taekwon where all he should

1019
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 2: do is hit the burners or Pop who was more

1020
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: shifty and can make some guys miss anything really to

1021
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: help the defense move.

1022
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: They did that Thursday night with Tomorroo Douglas. Yeah, he

1023
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: got an end around, He got a quick screen, ran

1024
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: about eight hundred miles to total what eight yards? I

1025
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: think he had like a seven yard run and a

1026
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 4: one yard screen, but he ran and crossed the field

1027
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 4: on both of them.

1028
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've talked about Marcus Jones two in that role.

1029
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: I think Marcus Jones is special with the ball in

1030
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: his hands. So I wouldn't be opposed to that.

1031
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's right fit for Taekwon. I mean,

1032
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: he's just he's tall, he's linear. I think he's improved

1033
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: in some of like his sudden ability to break routes

1034
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: you know where it's you know, because it used to

1035
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 3: be very measured and kind of he would gather himself

1036
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 3: and everybody could see it. And I think that's why

1037
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: he had such a hard time with contested catches. But

1038
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: I just I think his play is the overs, you know,

1039
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: like just run full speed over the whole defenses.

1040
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: Can I just ask you this about Taekwon Thornton and

1041
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 4: do you ever think he looks natural and fluid on

1042
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 4: the football field.

1043
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: No, there's been.

1044
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: There were maybe a couple of times in camp that

1045
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: he did, and I was surprised because it felt like

1046
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: that seems like he made to play there, like I

1047
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: haven't been. I know what you're getting at, and I

1048
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: would agree with you.

1049
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 4: And I don't. I don't. It's a weird thing because

1050
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: it doesn't make any sense, and it I get like

1051
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: football people would laugh at me. I just there's a

1052
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 4: look that he does look right in the uniform. To me,

1053
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I don't know why. And I'm

1054
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: not talking about like Mike's things with the helmet.

1055
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: Or skinny yea, get it, like elevens making them look he.

1056
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: Just doesn't look like like if you looked onto the field.

1057
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: In my opinion, there's like fifty guys that look pretty

1058
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: similar and there's like two or three guys that he

1059
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: doesn't look the same in the uniform as everybody else.

1060
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 4: And I think Killing is one of those guys. He

1061
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 4: just kind of just doesn't look the part. It's probably

1062
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: wildly unfair. Like talk about an eyeball test, I'm trying

1063
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 4: to do an eyeball test on how he fills out

1064
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: a uniform. Like I think it looks like his neck,

1065
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: like his long like you use the word like long

1066
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: and linear, yeah, just very you know. And that's how

1067
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 4: we look at the straight line like a big target

1068
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 4: to hit.

1069
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1070
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 4: And I think of him on one of those end

1071
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 4: of rounds if there's like a linebacker coming over there and.

1072
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: You think about how hard it is to like hit

1073
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: Tybreek Kill in those places, to hit.

1074
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: Even to the ground. But Douglas turning up field, they

1075
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 4: had him snuff. He didn't get any yards, but they

1076
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: had him snuffed out four times.

1077
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: And he just makes people.

1078
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: He just keeps like moving around and darting back and forth,

1079
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: a little water bug. Yeah he got no yards, but like, yeah,

1080
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: he didn't get tackled the first time someone had a

1081
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: chance to tackle him. I think Thornton in general is

1082
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: gonna get tackled. Yeah, it's funny.

1083
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: We've gotten to this point though. I feel like Week three,

1084
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 3: three games, and we had all these receivers in camp,

1085
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: and how's it all gonna play out? And I feel

1086
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: like we got to this point and I'm like, Okay.

1087
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Speaker 4: When's Bourne coming back? We've gotten there already.

1088
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 3: I like Polk, I like Pop, and we need Born

1089
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: back and like those are those are the three. Those

1090
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: are the three guys that.

1091
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Speaker 4: I'm even worse. You know, I don't like anything I

1092
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: do on like anything I've seen from any of the receivers.

1093
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 4: You know, you can take your six for sixty nine and.

1094
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: Bryan and Pli writes in I know the Patriots and

1095
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: coaches can't make excuses, but fans can at least wonder

1096
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: about the causes. Does the current state of the team

1097
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: come down to the perfect storm of everything being new coaches,

1098
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: assistance scheme, et cetera. And then an onslaught of injuries.

1099
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: Just when you maybe had a group pulling injuries in

1100
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: the same direction in the offseason, you lose bar More,

1101
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: jude On low So then Bentley, et cetera. Are we

1102
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: looking at the difference between good established teams who make

1103
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: the right adjustments following injuries versus teams like the Patriots

1104
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: painfully lacking depth in a new system with green coaches.

1105
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 4: I think they painfully lack talent with green coaches, which

1106
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: is not a good combination. And I put this more

1107
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 4: on Bill, like I think he left a bad roster,

1108
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: or at the very least a flawed roster. I mean

1109
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: an onslaught of injuries recounting Matt jude On is one

1110
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: of those. We're counting Vederian Lowe as one of those.

1111
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 4: I mean, like, if I had told you six weeks

1112
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 4: ago that Venerian Lowe is going to get hurt, your

1113
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 4: your response would have been and so he'll wind up

1114
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: on IR and get a free paycheck out of it. Yeah,

1115
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 4: that's what your response would have been. So like it's

1116
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 4: Christian Barmore enormous loss like enormous loss. Best player on

1117
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: the team in my opinion, Juwan Bentley, that's a big loss.

1118
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 4: Those are two big injuries. Yeah, I'm sorry if I

1119
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: can't put Venerian Low and City. So with those two

1120
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 4: like that's yeah. I mean, you're not going to have

1121
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 4: all five offensive linemen play, and they don't have five

1122
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: starting caliber offensive linemen. They probably have two, and Andrews

1123
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Speaker 4: is gonna win.

1124
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Speaker 3: And there's arrows going around. I mean you pointed the arrow, Bill,

1125
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: I mean you could point the air a little bit

1126
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: of Elliot Wolf two for not doing more at the

1127
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 3: tackle position and not having He didn't fix those better guys.

1128
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Speaker 4: He didn't fix it.

1129
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: You know, you're stuck going in with the guys we've

1130
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: talked about practice squad guys, journyman kind of guys. But

1131
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 3: at the same time, like I kind of expect to

1132
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: get rolled a few times this year, Like that's just

1133
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: the nature of this whole thing. Like, you know, I

1134
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: don't expect every week to come out and be like, man,

1135
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: perfect game. Just didn't have quite enough talent, Like they're

1136
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: still trying.

1137
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Speaker 4: Did you say, like when you first came in, something

1138
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 4: along the lines of I'm having a hard time getting

1139
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: really upset about where the team is that now, that

1140
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 4: was today, right.

1141
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: About twenty minutes ago. You guys were so passionate.

1142
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 4: I mean, Evan was leading the charge, and I think

1143
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: that's a perfect and I was, like, perfectly put, like,

1144
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: I have a hard time right getting my pitchforks out

1145
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: for what's going on and during a season that this

1146
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 4: is exactly what I expect.

1147
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: What did you expect?

1148
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 4: Right?

1149
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 3: I mean I think there are things that like you

1150
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: can be critical of, like and I want to see

1151
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: the offensive line just get better, get above the easy mistakes.

1152
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: That's what I said at the top two. But like

1153
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: this defense is what it is like if you're expecting

1154
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: them to go out there and shut down San Francisco

1155
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: this week, Like I'd like some of what you're on

1156
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Speaker 3: because it's hard to make that leap and it's hard

1157
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Speaker 3: to see. It's hard to even really sell my cell phone. Well,

1158
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: guys will get better on defense, but I think we've

1159
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 3: seen kind of most of the guys that are playing

1160
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: on defense, aside from maybe Gonzales and White, we know

1161
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: what their ceilings kind of are. We know who they are.

1162
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Speaker 4: It's going to take time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not going to be easy.

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Speaker 13: Only good afternoon, all right, no one, juice, today's all right.

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Speaker 13: Look excited to get back on the on the practice field.

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 13: Talked about Monday really being about nep and handling things

1208
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 13: that have shown.

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00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 14: Up over the past three weeks.

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00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 15: I thought those guys went out there and did a

1211
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 15: good job correcting those mistakes, you know, with the realization

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Speaker 15: that there will be other things that pop up throughout

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00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 15: the season. Now excited really to turn a page onto

1214
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 15: San Franz. But before we get there, so you know,

1215
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 15: we lost one of our captains and uh and Bentley

1216
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 15: Now he's done a great job for us both on

1217
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 15: and off the field, a leader in the locker room,

1218
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 15: all that stuff. So we'll be putting Bentley on injured

1219
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 15: reserve later on today. Now I'm saying that, you know,

1220
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 15: I thought it was important and just go back and

1221
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 15: kind of talk about my experience as you guys know

1222
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 15: that there are a few seasons there where I was

1223
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 15: hurt at the end, well more than one, all right,

1224
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 15: And so I was a captain seven out of eight years,

1225
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 15: but I remember getting hurt early in the season and

1226
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 15: then coach approached me and said, hey, do you mind,

1227
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 15: you know, bringing in another if we had another captain?

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00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 15: And I didn't, And so I had a conversation with

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00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 15: Bentley and the same thing with him, you know, obviously

1230
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 15: not being in the building every single day right now

1231
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 15: as he goes through the rehab process.

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00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 14: But I did ask him.

1233
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 15: I said, you know, to me, it's important that we

1234
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 15: still have, you know, leadership and representation for that side

1235
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 15: of the ball. And when we when we did the

1236
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 15: votes for captain and once again this is voted on

1237
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 15: by their peers, it was very close. It was very close.

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Speaker 15: And happy to announce today a guy that you know

1239
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 15: has done a tremendous job for US has really shown

1240
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 15: a lot of growth on the field and off the field,

1241
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 15: and that's Kyle Duggar. And so Duggar is now a

1242
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 15: captain for US. I wasn't finished my intro, non play good.

1243
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 14: I'm not sure. We'll see how it goes.

1244
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 15: I don't want to speculate on when he's gonna when

1245
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 15: he could return our cameratern I don't want to get

1246
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 15: into that.

1247
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 14: Thank you.

1248
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 15: It's meant a lot. You know, his first year he

1249
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 15: came in, you knew he was a physical player, a

1250
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 15: small school guy, and so first of all, that's always

1251
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 15: a uh, you know, surprise, and he can go either way.

1252
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 15: But what I will say is, look, he brings that mentality,

1253
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 15: that physicality that you that you want on your defense.

1254
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 15: And I would say, was it last year. Last year

1255
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 15: he had the green dot quite a bit, and I

1256
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 15: think two years ago he had the green green dot

1257
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 15: quite a bit as well. But he's able to handle

1258
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 15: the communication of the adjustments and he's able to get

1259
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 15: guys lined up. And when I talk about growth with Kyle,

1260
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 15: like his first couple of years and understanding as a rookie,

1261
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 15: you don't really say too much. But the first couple

1262
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 15: of years, it was more like he just would go

1263
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 15: out there and perform at a high level, but really

1264
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 15: didn't have much to do with the communication and stuff

1265
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 15: like that and the development of his teammates. And I

1266
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 15: would say here, over the last few years, he's done

1267
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 15: a tremendous job mentoring, mentoring those young guys and even

1268
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 15: the older guys. You know, I had a conversation with

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00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 15: Peppers today and he talked about how important it was

1270
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 15: for him to learn from Douggar and Devin and you

1271
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 15: know that just talks about his leadership style and you

1272
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 15: know it's a little different. It's mostly through, you know,

1273
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 15: just the way he approaches the game. But I would

1274
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 15: say here, as of late the last you know, this

1275
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 15: year and last year, he's been more vocal, which I

1276
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 15: definitely appreciate. And everyone doesn't know what's feel comfortable doing that,

1277
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 15: but uh, he's been doing that.

1278
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 5: Is Bentley is still going to be around a lot

1279
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 5: after his surgery and things like that.

1280
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, I told Ben, you know once again, you know,

1281
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 15: going through that experience, it really helped me.

1282
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 14: And it stinks.

1283
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 15: It really does stink to have to go on IR,

1284
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 15: but you can still be a productive teammate. And so

1285
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 15: even when I got hurt, I think you guys know

1286
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 15: the story of you know, I started learning how to

1287
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 15: break down film and do all those things. And I

1288
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 15: look back on it almost as a blessing. But you know,

1289
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 15: when you're on IR, you're in the storm. It's kind

1290
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 15: of hard to see what guy has planned for you.

1291
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 15: And those three years that I ended up on IR

1292
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 15: definitely helped me in my transition to coaching, and I

1293
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 15: think it's important for a guy like Bentley to be

1294
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 15: around the team, his energy is passion, all of those things.

1295
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 15: But also you know he'll be on the sidelines because

1296
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 15: I think you know, from a player's perspective, you know

1297
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 15: they see, they see a lot of things too, and

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Speaker 15: have another set of eyes and another motivator, another guy

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Speaker 15: that can help get the track, you know, get us

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Speaker 15: on the right track.

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Speaker 14: I think it's important.

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Speaker 15: So as soon as he's able to travel and as

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Speaker 15: soon as he's able to be on the sideline, I

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Speaker 15: fully anticipate that happening.

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Speaker 1: Sounding like a big leap, but a thirty thoughts to

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Speaker 1: Doug or taking some of Beckley's responsibilities in the inside

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Speaker 1: and playing inside and where he won't be able.

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Speaker 15: To playing linebackery. Look, we're very flexible. He's done it before,

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Speaker 15: Peppers has done it before. A guy not out there

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Speaker 15: right now is Marte, which you know would be exciting

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Speaker 15: to get him back out there. He's another candidate for

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Speaker 15: that role you're kind of talking about and saying that.

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Speaker 15: You know, Look, Jilani and Ray Kwan and those guys,

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Speaker 15: they do a good job controlling the front, and I

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Speaker 15: think having a guy like Dougger in the back end

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Speaker 15: who has that communication with the linebackers understands linebacker play,

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Speaker 15: but also can disseminate the information you know, you know,

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Speaker 15: to the side, to the corners, to the stars. I

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Speaker 15: think it's more important for him to be be there.

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Speaker 15: He does rock down, you know, anytime a safety rocks

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Speaker 15: here's my nugget, anytime a safety rocks down into the box,

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Speaker 15: he's really a linebacker at.

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Speaker 2: That point o Sunday's game.

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Speaker 4: But there you go.

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Speaker 11: There to the idea of adding a veteran quarterback to

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Speaker 11: the roster.

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Speaker 16: That's so you have full control.

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Speaker 7: Over when Drake's.

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Speaker 5: Plays, as opposed to having your hands potentially for.

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Speaker 14: Thing that's not in our plans at this current time for.

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Speaker 4: A Sunday's game.

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Speaker 5: What kind of challenge does this forty nine ers offense present,

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Speaker 5: especially with some issues maybe with the personnel right now.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, it's a very unique offense, and I

1335
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 15: know everyone says it falls off the same tree. But

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Speaker 15: all of these coaches and you can throw you know,

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Speaker 15: Mike McDaniel in the category, they all put their twist

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Speaker 15: on it. I would say with san fran you look

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Speaker 15: at it all three phase. Look, obviously their record's not

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Speaker 15: really reflective of the team that they are and can

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Speaker 15: be going forward. You know they're dealing with injuries as well.

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Speaker 15: What I will say is the challenge for us is

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Speaker 15: just in the front offensive line and defensive line. And

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Speaker 15: I know, I mean, I don't I don't want to

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01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 15: sound repetitive, but you know, those got they are do

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01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 15: what they do type of team, and like we know

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Speaker 15: what they're gonna do, the fans know what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 14: But you still have to stop them.

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Speaker 15: And they have a lot of good players on that

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Speaker 15: team offensively and defensively, like all pro caliber players almost

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Speaker 15: at every level if you really look at the roster.

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Speaker 15: So it's definitely a challenge. And uh, I think the

1353
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Speaker 15: guys are you know, I tell them all the time,

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Speaker 15: look at as an opportunity to go out there and perform.

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Speaker 4: This is a defining moment the offense.

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Speaker 10: Would you guys want to get that?

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Speaker 16: Offensively said different reminders value to shoot the offense?

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Speaker 14: Which you want how you strike the.

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Speaker 4: Ballance between keeping him out there, wanting to stay out.

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Speaker 16: There and maybe having that conversation with him.

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Speaker 14: About the pumps we've look.

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Speaker 15: We always say that, you know, ball security is job security,

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Speaker 15: and we're all disappointed, and really, you know, three fumbles

1364
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Speaker 15: and he understands that and definitely a point of emphasis

1365
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 15: today we'll go out there and practice in full pads.

1366
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Speaker 15: Those guys need to be hit, need to get hit.

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Speaker 15: I would also say that I have I have confidence

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Speaker 15: in that room as a whole, not just Remandre. And

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Speaker 15: you know, I think Gibbey's done a good job. Hasty's

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01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 15: ready to go. He prepares like a starter every week.

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Speaker 15: But you know, we got we have to take care

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Speaker 15: of the balls.

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Speaker 10: But is there something that.

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Speaker 16: You can get Is it just as easy as you're

1375
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 16: getting out the hit or is the.

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Speaker 15: Thing is it's not really technique thing? Well, I take

1377
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 15: that back, it is at times. You know, Remandre is

1378
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 15: probably top five in the league as far as like

1379
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 15: breaking tackles. Now that's a dual edged sword. You always

1380
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 15: want these guys to break tackles and try to make

1381
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 15: these big explosive plays. But in doing that sometimes the

1382
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 15: ball gets loose. And we always talk about double in trouble,

1383
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 15: like if people are around, you put two hands on

1384
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 15: the football, And it sounds simple to say, but it

1385
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 15: is hard to do it sometimes, especially when you're trying

1386
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 15: to get extra yards.

1387
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 5: Start to the season for such, how was he done,

1388
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 5: you know, excitability and seen him.

1389
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Speaker 4: Sort of handle himself.

1390
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Speaker 15: He's handled himself like a true professional. We had a

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01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 15: captain's meeting today and it wasn't like a big Kumbaya

1392
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 15: type of meeting. It was more of a you know,

1393
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 15: let's continue to get better each and every week. And

1394
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 15: I think that was really the main goal, you know,

1395
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 15: going into the season, Like I didn't know what the record,

1396
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 15: what our record would be at this time, but our

1397
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 15: goal was to get better every week. Now, obviously it

1398
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 15: was a poor showing in New York, but we'll see

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Speaker 15: what this team is made of going forward. You know,

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01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 15: we have a long trip out west and got to

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01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 15: be ready to play against a good, solid football.

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Speaker 1: Team and now great moments in.

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01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: History. Do you stand up on the third level of

1404
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: State look out on the parking lot now and remember

1405
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: what that parking lot used to look for.

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01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 17: It was.

1407
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 2: Like a big flea market park.

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01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 4: We got to bring morell into to make sure we

1409
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 4: were all safe.

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and bring on the marine like just how like.

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 3: The cement structures of like walking out into the lower

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01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: level where like you'd kind of come down the ramp,

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01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 3: but you'd still be in like this like turret almost

1414
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: like you know, and then you'd come up and oh,

1415
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: here's the stadium.

1416
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 4: There's a field, like what's right here?

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01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 3: You know, but I remember it raining there and it

1418
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: would just be like a river coming through those things,

1419
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: like you know, you couldn't even get to it would

1420
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 3: come out of the pipe right down the.

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01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: Stairs and even inside you know, they had that one

1422
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Speaker 2: building in the end zone that was the build off

1423
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: that was there, the locker room, yeah, you know, and

1424
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: everything and the backstairs led down to the locker room

1425
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: and the super box. The rightmell of urine would just

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01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: wave up into the way.

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Speaker 4: It would wave waft, waft, loft, waft. It was just awful.

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered eight five five

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Speaker 2: pass five hundred is the Stiken hutline web radio at

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Speaker 4: Some Eric moments.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was a good source of entertainment.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Going down there in the Mayor's office with what's going

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Speaker 3: on in Providence policy.

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Speaker 4: No that's over right, Oh no really?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, from what I hear, short lived

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Speaker 2: it's like a month. Yeah, anyway, just before you got here,

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Speaker 2: I announced that we're going to be starting a Patriots

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Speaker 2: Unfiltered newsletter.

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Speaker 4: Oh really, what do you think you putting it together?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll have but like an email out email,

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Speaker 2: anyone that emails in will automatically be opted in. If

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01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: you get it and you don't want it, you can

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Speaker 2: obviously unsubscribe. But it'll have all our picks, the updates.

1447
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Speaker 2: It'll have, you know, a couple of highlights of the week.

1448
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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have an email of the week, or we'll

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01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: give away something every week to somebody.

1450
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 3: You know what we should have. I don't know if

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01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 3: we can do this, but it might be add some

1452
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: value because Evan loves to go around talking to guys

1453
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 3: in the locker room. Maybe Lazar's whisper in the locker room,

1454
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: you know, maybe some little a little idea never.

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01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: Mind, but Linda says, sign me up. Uh, it's a

1456
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: wonderful idea. Content suggestions. I love the human interest in

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01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: folk player Q and a community involvement Hall of Fame

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01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: activity hot topic for the media each week, Opponent Inside

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: each week, Thanks for opening up suggestions to your off audience.

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Speaker 2: Love the PU staff.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking us up on that suggestion.

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Speaker 3: That was good so we'll like print it out every

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Speaker 3: week and mail it to everybody.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it won't be a paper thing. It'll be

1465
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Speaker 2: an email.

1466
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: It'll be elect pfwack.

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Speaker 2: It'll be electronic.

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Speaker 3: You're like you like the Wednesday schedule. Now it's actually

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Speaker 3: every Wednesday night. We're gonna have to stay here probably

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Speaker 3: about two am getting it all print, set, copy, right

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Speaker 3: the old You.

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Speaker 4: Really are just trying to push me out. I've known

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Speaker 4: that about you for a What.

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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about, that's that's you.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you.

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Speaker 2: Dana Virginia and Michigan says. Newsletters a great idea. Fred

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01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: I like to see Paul have a regular column in it.

1478
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: This would be a form for him to hold court

1479
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: and share his thoughts on life, including sharing wisdom from

1480
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: Aren't Camella life lessons he learned growing up on the

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01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: mean streets of Everett and useful tips like how to

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01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: find an amenable doctor who isn't going to push you

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: too hard and any lifestyle changes.

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Speaker 3: I like that, I actually have excellent I was gonna say,

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Speaker 3: you gott ask him about getting car inspections. Is what

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Speaker 3: you need?

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Speaker 4: That that that's that's that's a fail.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a.

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Speaker 4: Lord of the waste one literal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that I mean some of those off topic

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Speaker 2: things are kind of what we're known for, especially in

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01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: the off season. But like having you know, our pet

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Speaker 2: peeve of the week or things like that.

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Speaker 3: What if I did, like get to know you, like

1495
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: a Reddit thing or something and ask me anything, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: ask Paul anything, and.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't necessarily have to be about you know, the

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Speaker 4: team scary. Yeah, I could do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could it be about Jos.

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Speaker 4: Could we have a jaw seg jaws? Jos have to

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Speaker 4: invite you in? Yeah, to answer with me?

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think there's a lot of potential.

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Speaker 4: I'm in Fred, all right, and I think Dan gives

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Speaker 4: a lot of I like that too.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Growing up mean streets of Everett, growing growing up Parolo?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from uh, I say, from Everett to Everest. The

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Speaker 2: Paul Parillo story Micah.

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Speaker 4: Better than the one that was left behind, which is

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Speaker 4: the real Paul Polo?

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Speaker 2: You go like this all you want Micah in South Dakota. Uh,

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Speaker 2: he says Fred read this one says he's deare ident

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Speaker 2: double dogs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to put my juris on my shoulder

1515
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 4: and knock it off only Fred.

1516
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: Robert Conrad there right. Fans who are mad at Elliott

1517
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: Wolf are not addressing the offensive line more? Wait let

1518
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 2: me start again.

1519
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 4: Can I interrupt you for a second?

1520
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: Who is this from Micah in what South Dakota? Fans

1521
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 2: who are mad at Elliott Well for not addressing the

1522
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: offensive line more than they did are dumb. In the draft,

1523
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,879
Speaker 2: they went after a couple of receivers and got Caden Wallace.

1524
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: If they did address offensive line, then they wouldn't have

1525
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: tried to get any receivers either, like trying to trade

1526
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: for Brandan Ayuk or sign Calvin Ridley, who stinks. By

1527
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: the way, it was one or the other, and they

1528
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: chose weapons. It's going to be a multi year rebuild

1529
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: since Bill really left us with nothing. Stay patient and

1530
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,839
Speaker 2: let Elliott cook in the off season.

1531
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 4: I don't agree with only the last sentence, Stay patient

1532
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 4: and see what happens, like in terms of future roster

1533
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 4: building the rest of that. What weapons did they get? Yeah, Like,

1534
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 4: if Jalen Polk hits, he ain't a weapon. If he hits,

1535
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 4: he's not a weapon. He's a complimentary piece. Jayvon Baker,

1536
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 4: Let's face it, we haven't underwhelmed. Good words so far,

1537
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 4: it's not a weapon.

1538
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think he's why.

1539
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 4: Can't you sign offensive lineman? Why can't why can't you

1540
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 4: draft an offensive lineman before the third round?

1541
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 2: I mean Tyron Smith was out there, they chose not

1542
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 2: to get him. It was a one year deal that

1543
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: the Jets signed, and it was reasonable money. They could

1544
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: have done that. There was things other.

1545
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 4: Than there were options in the draft that would not

1546
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 4: have precluded you from getting anything else like this whole

1547
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 4: like they chose to get the weapons they did. Neither

1548
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 4: is what they did.

1549
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1550
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 2: Well, like if I'm not saying Poker was a good pick,

1551
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: I like we think.

1552
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm glad you put that in. I don't have

1553
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 4: a cat.

1554
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't have them. I don't have any problem with

1555
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 2: them choosing poke over a tackle.

1556
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 4: I do.

1557
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: I don't.

1558
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 4: They don't have a tackle.

1559
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: They they didn't have any wide receivers either. They don't

1560
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: have any Just you just were on this show this

1561
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: said I don't like any of them.

1562
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 4: I don't including him.

1563
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: Okay, but they they don't have a left tackle. I know,

1564
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: but they needed not that.

1565
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 4: I don't like the left tackles they have. They don't have.

1566
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: That, I understand, But they needed receivers too, they do,

1567
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: or they're just.

1568
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 4: Tackle they did. Yeah, but they didn't get any left tackle,

1569
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 4: Fred all right, Like they had wide receivers that we

1570
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 4: don't like. Yeah, they didn't have a left tackle that

1571
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 4: we didn't like.

1572
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: I just don't get the rush to what do you

1573
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: want them to do? There's nothing he could have done, Like,

1574
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 3: I like, you don't think Elliot will sitting out there

1575
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 3: watching practice being like it's like a flashback. Yeah, I mean,

1576
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: it's okay. It's okay to say, like, this is football,

1577
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: this happens every year. There are probably every team in

1578
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: the league right now was saying, man, we should have

1579
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 3: maybe focused on this a little bit more in the

1580
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 3: offseason because now an injury is really biting us in

1581
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 3: the ass with it. And you know what, it's okay

1582
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 3: to say that they're missing a piece like and.

1583
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 4: That they could have done more the other thing. So

1584
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 4: you put off the left tackle, Okay, that's fine. Maybe

1585
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 4: you can get one next year. Maybe it'll be in

1586
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 4: the top five. Maybe you'll get Will Campbell and maybe

1587
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 4: he's a pro bowler for ten years. And we're saying,

1588
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 4: let Elliott that's why I said the last sentence of that,

1589
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 4: you know, let's see what he does and how it reacts.

1590
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 4: But what's wrong with getting a left tackle more realistically,

1591
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 4: that maybe takes a little time to settle in. Maybe

1592
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 4: he has to start at right tackle because maybe he's

1593
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 4: not ready for left tackle right out of the shoot.

1594
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 4: Maybe he's you know, like Joe Walt is playing right tackle.

1595
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 4: I understand because they have Slater at left tackle. And

1596
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 4: then he, you know, gets hurt the third game of

1597
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 4: the year, you know, sue him at TA.

1598
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, King in San Francisco nailed it.

1599
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 4: No, Kansas City Kingsley.

1600
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: Having a hard time right, Well, he.

1601
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 4: Was playing for a guy who was hurt in Jane Morris.

1602
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 4: Juan Morris is now back, so he's gone to the bench,

1603
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 4: but he was not playing great. Like that's the more

1604
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 4: normal thing is the guy doesn't just like hit the

1605
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 4: ground as a stud, you know, That's my point. Like

1606
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,839
Speaker 4: if you had one now, at least he'd be working

1607
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 4: through that and then you wouldn't have to worry about

1608
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 4: it next year as well. Now next year you might

1609
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,919
Speaker 4: get him and he might be working through some growing pains.

1610
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 4: And I just think that there was an opportunity to

1611
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 4: at least address to some extent the offensive line, and

1612
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 4: they chose to.

1613
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: I know that saying, you know, getting Caden Wallace who

1614
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: never played left tackle, is not addressing left tackle.

1615
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 4: They didn't. First of all, they didn't draft him to

1616
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 4: play left tackle. But absolutely it's not addressing left tackle.

1617
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 4: And you saw why that wasn't struggling the other night.

1618
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 4: That's a guy who he's not a left.

1619
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: A lot of people said he could play left tackle.

1620
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: He didn't at Penn State because he was behind an.

1621
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 4: Elite Patriots fans said that, I'm just saying not not.

1622
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 4: The draft evaluators didn't even know if he was a tackle.

1623
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 14: Yeah. Yeah.

1624
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 3: I think the point, the bigger point though, and you

1625
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 3: touched on him, Paul, was that you have to get

1626
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: some of these premium position players. They can't all be

1627
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 3: free agents and first round picks. You have to find

1628
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 3: a way to get an edge player who emerges from

1629
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 3: day two of the draft, day three of the draft,

1630
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 3: a wide receiver that emerges from the second or third round,

1631
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 3: because you can't just every even well, next year we'll

1632
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: get the tackle, and then the next year we'll get

1633
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 3: the wide receiver, and then the next year we'll get

1634
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 3: the edge of Like you need to start hitting on

1635
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 3: some of the lower round picks. Like you know, a

1636
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 3: guy like Layden Robinson, if he works out, that's a

1637
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 3: really great pick. It's a you know, a day it's

1638
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 3: gonna exact step in and be able to walk down.

1639
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 4: Is what you can do with those other spots, you know,

1640
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 4: and you know, let's go to the receivers. Okay, was

1641
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 4: there not like an example of a guy that got

1642
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 4: to I mean like Xavier Worthy of Fred's guy Lad McConkie. Like, like,

1643
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 4: just because you got Jalen Polk doesn't mean you address

1644
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 4: your weapons, you know, Like I think Xavier Worthy could

1645
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 4: be a weapon for the Chiefs. I don't think he's

1646
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 4: ready to be right now. I don't. He looks very

1647
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 4: raw to me. I mean obviously can run for dates

1648
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 4: very fast, but he doesn't look like a guy who's

1649
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 4: you know, going to catch seventy eighty balls. He looks

1650
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 4: like he's gonna need some development. But that to me

1651
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 4: is a weapon.

1652
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 2: I think I think pop can be a weapon, one

1653
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: of the weapons that a quarterback has on this team.

1654
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: Right now, you're not seeing what he can do. This

1655
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 2: isn't an.

1656
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 4: I'm not blaming anything on the offense on him right now.

1657
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 4: I don't see his skill set as being a weapon

1658
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 4: in an offense. I see him being a complimentary part

1659
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 4: of a good offense. That's to me, that's his seales.

1660
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: He's the number two receiver on this team. That's a weapon.

1661
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 4: He ain't good enough, am I? In my just my opinion,

1662
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 4: I think he can be like a good complimentary piece

1663
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 4: on a good offense. If he's a two or a

1664
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 4: one on your offense, your offense isn't good.

1665
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: So in your in your mind, you don't get the

1666
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: title of weapon unless you're a real playmaker. A real difference.

1667
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 4: But that's what we're talking about, right that's the guys

1668
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 4: that they will looking at look at you know, like

1669
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 4: they're like they're interested in Brandon Ayuk. No, he's a

1670
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 4: guy that can can.

1671
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 2: Impact thea I look at it like, okay, what is

1672
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: what is this quarterback's weapons? All right, he's got Hunter

1673
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: Henry at tight end, he's got Poke, he's got you know,

1674
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 2: you know.

1675
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 4: That's different just rattling off all the skill in play.

1676
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 4: But there's a different stream.

1677
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: What like, who are the dependable people that this quarterback.

1678
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 4: Do you think Mario Douglas is a weapon?

1679
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: He should be.

1680
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 4: He's one of Jacoby Brissette's weapons. But is he a weapon?

1681
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 4: But I like it, I like like I'm going I know,

1682
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 4: I like him.

1683
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: Don't you think he should be a weapon.

1684
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 4: He's among his weapons, But he's not that kind of player.

1685
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 2: Oh I do I think he's dynamic?

1686
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't think he is. I don't think he's ever

1687
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 4: seen I don't think he's ever shown any dynamic ability

1688
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 4: Mario Douglas.

1689
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about.

1690
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 4: Pop now, now I'm talking about to Mario.

1691
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: I know with the capitol, I think he can be.

1692
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 4: I think you get on the ball.

1693
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 2: Get the ball in space. I think he can do

1694
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: things with it.

1695
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 4: Well, you can get anybody the ball in space. And

1696
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: then it's when he's not in space, how does he

1697
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 4: get out of How does he get from from in

1698
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 4: a crowded area to winter space?

1699
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: And you put the I think he can get open?

1700
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you put the Ridley or the Ayuk in, and

1701
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 3: all of a sudden his guys are a little bit better,

1702
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, is Jalen Polk a weapon?

1703
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 3: I get where I get what you're saying with it,

1704
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean where it's like, is he

1705
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 3: going to be the guy who's gonna, you know, big

1706
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: score sign. No, but he might be the guy that

1707
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 3: on third and six he's gonna come down with a

1708
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 3: contested cat.

1709
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: Like he's going to be that reliably. But is he

1710
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 2: a weapon?

1711
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 4: Is Jacoby Myers a weapon? No?

1712
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: I think he was on this team.

1713
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 4: He was their best receiver. He wasn't a weapon. And

1714
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 4: I like Jakobe Meyers he was one of max weapons.

1715
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 4: But he Adams is the weapon.

1716
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: On that offense. He's not going to be.

1717
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 4: When he tries where he didn't.

1718
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 2: None of them going to be Tyreek killed. But I

1719
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 2: think they can be like part of.

1720
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 4: We're talking about Fred and Mike just perfectly illustrated it,

1721
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 4: like and I think Calvin Ridley and Brandon Ayuk they're

1722
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 4: like kind of like second tier in that discussion. The

1723
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 4: true weapons, the different the difference makers. Yeah, like.

1724
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: You saw a w R one, No, that's a weapon.

1725
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: I know it is a weapon. It is a weapon, but.

1726
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 3: It's also a big difference of like who Toamorio Douglas

1727
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 3: is facing as a cornerback when you're looking at this

1728
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 3: offense and you're staying third down, They're probably gonna try

1729
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: to get the ball to him, whereas A. J. Brown's

1730
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 3: out there tomorrow Douglas gets lost in the wash and

1731
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's on your second nickelback and

1732
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 3: it's and it's a favorite.

1733
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 4: Now a weapon and do like Wes Welker with Rady Moss.

1734
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: Was Wes Welker a weapon? Yes he was.

1735
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 4: Like guys that averaged ten yards to catch are not weapons.

1736
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: What about all the third downs he picked up?

1737
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 4: You can be like you're misunderstanding my point, Like you

1738
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 4: can be a very good player. Mike illustrated it perfectly.

1739
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 4: Jalen Polk can be a very good player. I think

1740
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,919
Speaker 4: he's strong, physical, has good hands. I like almost everything

1741
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 4: I see, probably other than eight line speed. I think

1742
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 4: he has toughness. I think he's going to be a

1743
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 4: good player. I hope everybody heard that. I think Jalen

1744
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 4: Polk can be a very good player. But he's not

1745
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 4: good Like Tyler Boyd on Cincinnati was a very good player.

1746
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 4: The weapons were Chase and Higgins. He was a good,

1747
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 4: complimentary piece on a good passing offense. If Tyler Boyd

1748
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 4: is your number one, you're not good enough, he's not

1749
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 4: a weapon. Okay, that's fair, But that's what I'm like.

1750
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 4: It's maybe it's a semantics, it's a typical Yeah.

1751
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: I got it. Like a guy like Wes Welker who

1752
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: has five, you know, seasons of a thousand, also talking.

1753
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:46,879
Speaker 4: But you're also talking about the single individual best maybe

1754
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 4: who ever did that?

1755
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: An Edelman I would consider a weapon.

1756
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't. Gronk was the we.

1757
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: We have a different definition a weapon, Yeah we do.

1758
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And guys that average ten yards of catch to

1759
01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 4: me aren't weapons.

1760
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 2: I need its way, they get it, they get it

1761
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: big plays.

1762
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 3: It's it's the collection.

1763
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 4: Size, grossly reliant on the greatest quarterback who ever played.

1764
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 4: It's a collection still to catch.

1765
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 3: They're going to keep the offense on time and keep

1766
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 3: and make the critical plays. But then there's the weapons

1767
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 3: who are going to push the pace. We're going to

1768
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 3: put the other defense to put the defense on their heels,

1769
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 3: you know, and really make those big scores and make

1770
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 3: the big impact plays.

1771
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 4: Five passes, not to say that, how did he do

1772
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 4: in Miami with Cleo Lemon throwing the ball before? I know?

1773
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 4: That's my point. Then they went to Peyton Manning and

1774
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 4: he continued to be that guy like there's a little

1775
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 4: there's a little bit about being like a part of

1776
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 4: an unbelievable offense with the best quarterback who ever played.

1777
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 4: That's going to make you look a little better than.

1778
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 2: You regardless, he was one of Tom Brady's weapons.

1779
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 4: I in my yes, I would agree with that the

1780
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 4: way you say that, I would. I would agree with you. Yeah,

1781
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 4: he's one of their skilled position guys.

1782
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: Yes that produces.

1783
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, very good player. Even you want to call

1784
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 4: him great, I will call him great. Edelman in Welker Troy.

1785
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: Like Welker not not good enough for Patriots Hall of Fame.

1786
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 4: And who has made the argument for Wes Welker for

1787
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 4: the Patriots Hall of Fame in the last two years.

1788
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 4: You okay, but I don't know. If you know Fred,

1789
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 4: you might have heard this. He dropped a pass in

1790
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. So the little still.

1791
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 2: Nominated him to get at those people.

1792
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the only reason, because I don't think he's

1793
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 4: a hall I don't think he's a team Hall of Famer.

1794
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: It's nice, it's a it's a grudge nomination. No, Tony

1795
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: and Pott in Uk. I think I'm on.

1796
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 4: The same one of those in a while we need

1797
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 4: we need more of that.

1798
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: That's good. I think I'm on the same page as

1799
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 2: Paul and Evan. I'd set myself up for a season

1800
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: of very little wins and mainly losses, but Drake would

1801
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: be in and he would be learning as he went.

1802
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 2: The approach the Patriots are taking now is just delaying

1803
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: everyone knowing if Drake and perform at this level or not.

1804
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: You'd like to think a quarterback coming with his talent

1805
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: would find it difficult at first, but quickly learn and

1806
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: go on that steep curve to becoming a true QB one.

1807
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 3: See I have that year, Like I'll get to that

1808
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 3: gear in like November. Okay, Like I'll get to that year.

1809
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 3: But like free I'm okay. Like it's like you're not

1810
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 3: going to like rule Drake out there tomorrow. But that

1811
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 3: the impatience.

1812
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: But like, but that's the other thing that people are

1813
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: kind of forgetting about in the argument of how soon

1814
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: do you play him? Is money. You know, these teams

1815
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: need to know who they have before it comes close

1816
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: to the end of their contract.

1817
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 4: I've said this with Green Bay. You know you can

1818
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 4: do it the way green Bay did it. And I

1819
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 4: understand they had Alon run, but now all of a sudden,

1820
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 4: you have to give the guy an obscene contract based

1821
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 4: off of really a half a year of Riley good

1822
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 4: play right, because he was kind of average for a

1823
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 4: while last year.

1824
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 3: Jordan Love feel scary, I mean, and that's so many

1825
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 3: By the way, he didn't look great in the opener either.

1826
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: It was in Brazil.

1827
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 4: Though it was in Brazil art planning on an ice

1828
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 4: rank other hemisphere.

1829
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Forget Nick and the Pocono's. I've been listening to the

1830
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: show for a few years and I don't normally email shows,

1831
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 2: but I had to give Paul his credit. You have

1832
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: some callers and emails that can be frustrating to listen to,

1833
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: and you guys normally are very patient with them. To

1834
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 2: your credit, during the postgame show last week, Paul finally

1835
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: let loose on one and I am here for it.

1836
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: That guy deserved every bit of your rage. Thank you

1837
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: for letting loose on him, and thank you for the entertainment.

1838
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: So I've got a lot of emails on this. I

1839
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: missed what happened the show? Yeah, no Ida.

1840
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 3: It was one of the guys that I just said, like,

1841
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 3: what did you want to do.

1842
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 2: There's no tackles, give me the tackles.

1843
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 4: It was a guy that called in saying that they

1844
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 4: had no options, no opportunities to get tackles. I disagreed,

1845
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 4: and I said that I thought they could have signed

1846
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 4: a veteran or gotten one in the draft higher the

1847
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 4: and they did. Evidently that didn't sit well with his call,

1848
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 4: and he emailed back in later. Oh no, the other

1849
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 4: way around. He emailed first, Sorry, Mike has given me

1850
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 4: the reverse. He emailed first. Then he called in later, Mike,

1851
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 4: you want to do the to the call and don't

1852
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 4: you can do this? This is not an exaggeration where

1853
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 4: it was. I mean, why can't Why couldn't you try?

1854
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 4: Why couldn't you give me? Give me a name? Smith,

1855
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: Joan Williams, But give me a name. This is this

1856
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 4: is how it went. Like, I'm just like rattling off

1857
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 4: there hurts, he said, Joeah Williams, Tyrant Smith. The two

1858
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 4: NFL guys that were available, he could have traded up

1859
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 4: in the first round and he gotten one of the

1860
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 4: tackles that went. A tackle train started at about twenty

1861
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 4: five in the first round, and he watched it go by.

1862
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 4: Any of them would have been an option at least

1863
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 4: somebody who's played left tackle.

1864
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 7: Give me a name.

1865
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 4: Okay, so what do you think I did after that?

1866
01:25:58,880 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 2: He gave him names?

1867
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 4: No, I had already given him names, like any of

1868
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 4: the names, right, I just gave you.

1869
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 3: To give me the buy Matt, can you give me

1870
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 3: the buye? The bye at the end was my actually

1871
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 3: John and Lad.

1872
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got hurt. So a guy got hurt in

1873
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 4: Arizona means I would have been hurt here right right that,

1874
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:23,440
Speaker 4: because that makes sense because everything happens the same, right.

1875
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 3: The buy at the The thing is fun though when

1876
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 3: you get mad, it's like usually if it's not Fred,

1877
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 3: you'll hold it back a little bit because you know,

1878
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I assume, but then like, but.

1879
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 4: The call I that you didn't hold back. But I

1880
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 4: never I never like want to be like that. And

1881
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 4: I'm being serious. I always immediately regret that I was funny. Right,

1882
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 4: But when a guy just continues to say, give me

1883
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 4: a name, and he's not listening to the names that

1884
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 4: I'm providing.

1885
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 3: We're not having a conversation, but you're on the fact that.

1886
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,440
Speaker 4: I'm not Elliott Wolf. It's not my job to identify

1887
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 4: all of the possibilities at left tackle. All I can

1888
01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: tell you is not identifying one who's ever played left

1889
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 4: tackle is negligent to the offensive line. That's the only

1890
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 4: point I was trying to make. And evidently this guy

1891
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 4: is like Elliott Well's brother in law and just decided

1892
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 4: like who who who? Give me your name? Give me

1893
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 4: your name. I just gave you Jonah Williams A Thomas Smith. Listen,

1894
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 4: Oh I was good.

1895
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 2: I lost my poopy and get uncomfortable.

1896
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. It's like he's, you know, he's hosting

1897
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 4: like n PRS, like we want to be a little

1898
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 4: bit more here, you know, and you know, for Mike

1899
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 4: and Matt Morreau and the booth and and every like

1900
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 4: everybody who's ever walked through Gillette Stata and gets your

1901
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 4: credit at the end of the show by.

1902
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 2: Paul in the Colony, writes in Fred. He says, Brandon

1903
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: Leafell was an excellent player who helped us win, but

1904
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: he was not a weapon weapon. Hopefully Pope can be LaFell.

1905
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 4: Yes, boom, there you go.

1906
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 2: I think he should use that. Paul in the Colony.

1907
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: Paul in the Colony, he says, sign me up for

1908
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: the newsletter and ps the Jets still suck. They did

1909
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 2: Thursday Night unfortunately.

1910
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, that that kind of illustrates my point. And

1911
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 4: if you think he's going to be better than la Fello,

1912
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 4: I think you're going to be disappointed. I think Brandon

1913
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 4: LaFell was a good player. I think you'd be happy

1914
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 4: if Jalen Pope turns out to be.

1915
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: I want him to be better. I think he's different.

1916
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 4: I think he's a different kind of player. But I'm

1917
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 4: talking about like production, like he's a different kind of

1918
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 4: Lfel was an outside guy. He was your you know,

1919
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 4: outside guy, your.

1920
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 3: Your ex if you will, thank you, not one.

1921
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 4: But not a weapon, not DK Metcalf, not that kind

1922
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 4: of an outside.

1923
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 3: And that gets at the heart of it of like

1924
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 3: some of the problems that they've had where they've had

1925
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 3: guys on the outside not a weapon.

1926
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 4: Though, like Jamar Chase and t Higgins those weapons.

1927
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: Christian in l a t pxline. What's up, Christian, Hey

1928
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 2: you guys, And I want to clear up something from

1929
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: from the post game show.

1930
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 16: When I said that the the team didn't play badly,

1931
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 16: I didn't mean that they didn't do enough to execute

1932
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 16: well enough to which they obviously win a game. What

1933
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 16: I meant was they didn't they didn't do it over.

1934
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 16: They were out gone, and it's a balance thing. Like

1935
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 16: everyone's saying to my point that inspect.

1936
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 2: The draft, you break it up.

1937
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 16: Christian I was.

1938
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 2: Okay, you break it up. I can't listen to that.

1939
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 2: But I think his point was maybe that they didn't

1940
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: play as poorly as people thought because they didn't turn

1941
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 2: the ball over or well, I mean, I think you

1942
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: can they did once, but but you.

1943
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 4: Could get to a semantic argument is when you get

1944
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 4: dominated by your other team, it's not because you played

1945
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 4: bad if you don't make if you don't have a

1946
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 4: lot of penalties and turnovers. Right, Yeah, that's not the

1947
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 4: only way to play bad.

1948
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: They were overmatched, right yea.

1949
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 4: They couldn't stop the other team and they couldn't move

1950
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 4: the ball on the other team. Like, is that because

1951
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 4: you're just not good enough? Like you played? Are you

1952
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 4: telling me that the Patriots played to the best of

1953
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 4: their ability and we're playing against the better team? Yeah,

1954
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 4: I didn't. I don't think that.

1955
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that is.

1956
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 4: I think more of the Patriots than that, even though

1957
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 4: I don't have a tremendous amount of faith that the

1958
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 4: Patriots are gonna be able to line up and beat

1959
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 4: the other team a lot. I think they're better than

1960
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 4: they played in that game Thursday night.

1961
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah me too.

1962
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 4: They missed a lot of tackles.

1963
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Uh Nick and Pennsylvania. I have to push back on

1964
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Mike for one second. On the last postgame show, he

1965
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 2: defended Peppers with his life, and I get it if

1966
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: he's his guy, but really, what has he done. You

1967
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 2: can say he's one of the few with crazy emotion

1968
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 2: and heart, but that's not going to make me say

1969
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 2: he's been good. He's been missing tackles and playing somewhat poorly.

1970
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 2: And god, if I see him jump over a pile

1971
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 2: of players after the play is dead just to show

1972
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 2: he cares, I'm gonna lose it.

1973
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 3: No, I mean, like I said, uh what, I hate

1974
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 3: the Center. I hate the sin love the Center, Like

1975
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 3: I don't love the extra business.

1976
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 14: I don't.

1977
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 3: I didn't love it when Rodney Harrison did it either,

1978
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 3: like I don't. I don't have to love everything about

1979
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 3: the player. And no, I mean I think he has

1980
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 3: to definitely be better. I don't know if he's as

1981
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 3: bad as you're kind of pointing him out to be.

1982
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 3: But I mean, I agree generally. I'm just pushing back

1983
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 3: on that because I.

1984
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: Love who is he.

1985
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 4: I love I love Mike's passion which Jabrill Peppers. And

1986
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 4: I'm probably more toward the emailer and Matt in the argument,

1987
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 4: not as far as they are, because I think that

1988
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 4: they're exaggerating. I think Peppers is a good player, but

1989
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 4: I love the like Mike like truly gets passionate in

1990
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 4: his defense of Jabrill Peppers, and and I liked that.

1991
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. It's like it's like Drew likee for me, but.

1992
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 2: Like get yourself a friend who defends like defense like

1993
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't.

1994
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 3: I don't love the extra nonsense. Like there's nothing I

1995
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 3: love more than a guy who's super intense and plays

1996
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 3: hard and then is like super sportsmanship and it's like

1997
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 3: helping guys up and then he's going to try to

1998
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 3: kill you the next time. Not the guys who are

1999
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 3: you know, taking the late jump in or trying to

2000
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 3: get the ball out like all that.

2001
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 4: He's a pile of jumper, but he also is a

2002
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 4: good player, like you know, I think to that hit

2003
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 4: on like Devanta Adams in Vegas last year, Like those

2004
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 4: kinds of plays just good solid heart.

2005
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 3: That's and that's and that's what Matt gets me with

2006
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 3: his Matt because he's done it before this.

2007
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 4: He'll just be like Matt does pick at him.

2008
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 3: He's not even good, but you like this guy, like

2009
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 3: what's even doing here?

2010
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 4: Like that's the tone that Mac comes out me, and

2011
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 4: that gets it. And that's more negative.

2012
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 2: Matt shown up on the post game show.

2013
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 4: You No, not on not on the air. No, let

2014
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 4: me just ask us. Let me just tell you something.

2015
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 4: Do not go out of your way to ever watch

2016
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,799
Speaker 4: a game with Matt off air? Yeah, not an enjoyable experience.

2017
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 2: Now he's just two. Everything's terrible, like it's nineteen ninety. Yeah,

2018
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:38,839
Speaker 2: Like it's like the last.

2019
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 4: Twenty five years never happened. I think he gave a

2020
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 4: heart attack at one. He thinks the worst thing ever

2021
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 4: is going to happen on every single play, you know.

2022
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 4: I don't think it's like a false like the sky

2023
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 4: is falling mentality. I think he honestly thinks something bad

2024
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 4: is going to happen on every play.

2025
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 3: It's how we enjoys the game.

2026
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 4: So they want a new host. Least he's going to

2027
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 4: cry himself to sleep on his giant pillar.

2028
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 2: Art rights in when Elliott Wolf didn't get a left

2029
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 2: tackle with the Patriots second pick, he really screwed up.

2030
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 2: Give me your name, Mark, give me a.

2031
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 4: Name by So I think that the second guess, in

2032
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 4: all seriousness like that, my tirade aside is could they

2033
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 4: have been more aggressive getting into position to take one

2034
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 4: of those tackles? And I don't know what, Like the

2035
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 4: kid in Dallas is kind of struggling too, right, I

2036
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 4: think he's struggling. I don't care that they're not stars

2037
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 4: like the day they get onto the field, like sometimes

2038
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 4: it takes time. We didn't take Joe Walt, you know,

2039
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 4: for Sean was not even starting. He came in from

2040
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 4: Morgan Moses the other night. Fashion sorry, thank you.

2041
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 3: What about the kid in Washington too, that I think

2042
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 3: was taking one pick ahead of Wallace legging. I don't

2043
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 3: think he was a left tackle, but he's playing left

2044
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 3: he's not.

2045
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 4: Good either, so you know, but still that you could

2046
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 4: you could plug a guy in like what was I

2047
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 4: maybe tackle again this week? He probably would be better

2048
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 4: than he was last week. But that doesn't mean you

2049
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 4: have left tackle filled just because a guy's playing left

2050
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 4: tackle totally, but it's not a good Indians right right.

2051
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know them well enough to I

2052
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 3: guess state the case. But I just think that there's

2053
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 3: there are teams out there that are figuring.

2054
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 2: It out or they're finding question. You know, in this

2055
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 2: offensive system, this spread not spread but wide system, does

2056
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 2: that decrease the need for the typical, you know, left tackle,

2057
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,839
Speaker 2: you know the guy that just you know, stones people

2058
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 2: because you're more on the move and and all that.

2059
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 4: I would say that one of the best left tackles

2060
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 4: in football plays with San Francisco, And I don't think

2061
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 4: the RAMS offense has been the same since Andrew Widworth retired. Yeah,

2062
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I don't think that you need like

2063
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,719
Speaker 4: you need talented players, you need that like a big

2064
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 4: athletic lineman. I think in this system, yeah, I think

2065
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 4: they have some big guys, but they're not I would

2066
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 4: That's what I'm.

2067
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 2: Getting at is, like, is this new fangled offenses that

2068
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 2: all the teams are running. It's not the same left

2069
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 2: tackle that you would have twenty years ago. It's a

2070
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 2: different type of left tackle, which opens it up to

2071
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 2: more guys. It opens it up to more guys coming

2072
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: from another position who are athletic and can play in

2073
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 2: this system that typically maybe didn't play left tackle in college,

2074
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, because when I look at a lot of

2075
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 2: a lot of these the whole left.

2076
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 4: Right tackle has nothing really to do with ability.

2077
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with the ability.

2078
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 4: It doesn't have everything to do with the bility, no, nothing, nothing.

2079
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 4: I know, like a lot of guys that play on

2080
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 4: the right side, they have a hard time on the

2081
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 4: left side because of the football I understand, not because

2082
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 4: they don't have the requisite talent to do it.

2083
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: But I look at like, you know, my guides are lads,

2084
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 2: and you know, the beasts, and so many of these

2085
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 2: tackles coming out of college are projected to play.

2086
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 4: Guard right because they don't have the length, combination of

2087
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 4: size and agility to play on the edge. Yeah, that's

2088
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 4: I think. I think the bigger question and I don't

2089
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 4: I don't know the specific answer to your question for it,

2090
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,759
Speaker 4: but I think the bigger thing is other college offense

2091
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 4: is ruining these offensive linemen like standing up three points,

2092
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 4: you know, like looking at the sideline doing this spread

2093
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 4: spread attack RPOs. Like there's a lot less just pure

2094
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 4: pocket fundamental pocket building and yeah, drop back right, you know,

2095
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 4: stuff like that, And I wonder if that's the biggest issue,

2096
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 4: like because not only Fred, a lot of these tackles

2097
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,759
Speaker 4: that come out, they say, well, he might make transition

2098
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 4: to guard, but how many left tackles? They say he's

2099
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 4: more of a right tackle because I don't think that

2100
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 4: he has like the footwork and you know, and I

2101
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 4: don't know, Like again, you might be thousand percent right.

2102
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 4: Twenty years ago, maybe it was a bigger deal and

2103
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 4: now more guys could do it. But I think the

2104
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 4: college offenses are impacting the line.

2105
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Eric just got here and he's getting excited because he

2106
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 2: thinks we're talking about college It was just for a second.

2107
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 4: You heard, we were talking about offensive lineman and.

2108
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 2: It was just for a second.

2109
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,640
Speaker 4: He needed to strap in.

2110
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 2: Evans here.

2111
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:15,959
Speaker 4: Has returned from practice.

2112
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 2: Evan has returned, has returned from fact.

2113
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 8: Who was there?

2114
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 2: All right? Evan was yours?

2115
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 4: What did you see? Hello?

2116
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 5: So interesting day? Interesting day had some movement on the

2117
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 5: offensive line. It looks like they are going to get

2118
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,480
Speaker 5: city show back. It seems like maybe.

2119
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 2: There it is, and there.

2120
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 5: It is the savior of the left side that really

2121
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 5: has really hasn't been the problem that spot who hasn't

2122
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 5: been Yeah anyways, but attendance wise obviously. No, Juwan Bentley,

2123
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 5: you know that story. Dro told us. I'm sure you

2124
01:37:56,680 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 5: guys talked about that already. And uh No, Alex Austin,

2125
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 5: which is a new one. We didn't see him Monday.

2126
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 4: We have Alex and Austin on the last.

2127
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 5: We didn't see him on Monday either, So he's obviously

2128
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 5: dealing with something that we'll find out later today.

2129
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,839
Speaker 4: With the injury, he left the game and was announced

2130
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 4: a questionable. He was on our injured list. Yeah, we

2131
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 4: got that probably interrupted before we got to it, right, Yeah,

2132
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 4: don't let him listen to the show.

2133
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 5: Left tackle is uh, I don't like to look on

2134
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 5: left tackle is a concern. Let me just put to

2135
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 5: you that way, not that it wasn't a concern before.

2136
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 5: We're going to go unbalanced and we're not going to

2137
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 5: play with left on the city. So it is going

2138
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 5: to be the left tack right now. Caden Wallace, we

2139
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,640
Speaker 5: saw him in the locker room with a heavily wrapped.

2140
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 4: Knee, so he also left the game.

2141
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 5: By Jacob, he was out at practice, but Trade Jacobs

2142
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 5: could be in line to play on Sunday.

2143
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 2: I think it's just the guy they just picked up.

2144
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 4: No, this is he's been around a little bit. They

2145
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 4: claimed off waivers big he's like six ' eight.

2146
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's.

2147
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,759
Speaker 4: Not the big guy you're thinking about a squad. No,

2148
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 4: that's Caleb Jones, seventy pound guy that everybody thinks would

2149
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 4: be the answer to our prayers just because he's clips. Yeah,

2150
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 4: but look, it was really brief. It's only Wednesday.

2151
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens, but it does look like they're

2152
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 5: at least giving Trey Jacobs a Look, well, that.

2153
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 2: Helps a sore knee in a six hour flight in

2154
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 2: the west to the west.

2155
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 3: Correct, especially if you're six nine in a plane.

2156
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 4: Season. That was the underrated part I thought of the

2157
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 4: game the other night is a lot of those guys

2158
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 4: sort of got knocked out late. Yeah, late in the game.

2159
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 4: Which was another thing about Jordan. The decision to play

2160
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 4: May with two of those guys on the left side,

2161
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 4: you know, is Jacob's in uh Zach Thomas, you know,

2162
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 4: left tackle and left guard respectively. Like that was he

2163
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 4: was under attack, like and they and they had sort

2164
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 4: of dialed it back a little bit. They blitzed him

2165
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 4: a couple of times, but not like they had been earlier.

2166
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 4: And they had a lot of backups in attic to

2167
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 4: me pads today full pads.

2168
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Grodd said that was important this morning. Got to

2169
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 5: tackle talking about Rimandre's ball security a little bit, so

2170
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 5: he I thought he made a good point about Rimondre's

2171
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 5: ball security is something that I felt like I was

2172
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 5: noticing too, which is that a lot of it is

2173
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 5: coming when he's fighting for extra yards and then he's

2174
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 5: got like three guys on him and then guys are

2175
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 5: just starting to rip at the ball.

2176
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what you tell him go down, I

2177
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 4: don't know, but yeah.

2178
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't be the guy that you know,

2179
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 2: was tops in the league for breaking tackles without trying

2180
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 2: to break tackles, right, And a lot of times when

2181
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 2: you're in that scrum, you just can't fall down. You're

2182
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 2: being held up. Yeah.

2183
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 4: Right, So it's like these gang tackles where guys are

2184
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 4: holding him up. The phrase though, yeah that double when

2185
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 4: you're in trouble. Oh like double over hand, two hands.

2186
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Two hands. You saw Derek Henry and the runs he'd

2187
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 2: come and you know, both hands.

2188
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that's practice.

2189
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 2: Weather outside today, fall day, fall day, pretty fall day,

2190
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:10,799
Speaker 2: mid sixties, I think.

2191
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice out, it's not it's not too cold,

2192
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 5: not too hot because.

2193
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 2: It's going to be hot. I think in San Francisco, yes,

2194
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 2: Santa Clara, yes, where they're playing.

2195
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 4: It feels it felt like football weather out there today.

2196
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 4: I love it.

2197
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan was he out there.

2198
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 5: He was out there, but we didn't see him do much.

2199
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 5: And when they did have the offensive line working together,

2200
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 5: it was city.

2201
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 2: Now, I would imagine there's a lot of media grousing

2202
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 2: going on.

2203
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 5: What I think is interesting, and you know, this is

2204
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 5: my side of the streets, so I find this is

2205
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,799
Speaker 5: why I find it interesting. A lot of the media

2206
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 5: grousing right now is trying to solve their problems.

2207
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 4: Like it's a lot of it is like, oh, what

2208
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 4: did you you know? See here?

2209
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,600
Speaker 5: What did you I have people coming up to me

2210
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 5: left and right like just talking ball, like just wanting to.

2211
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 5: Everybody just wants to, you know, has their two cents

2212
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 5: about what's going on right now with this team.

2213
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,600
Speaker 4: I think it's too early in the season.

2214
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 5: For people to check out, so everybody's still trying to

2215
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 5: to figure out what.

2216
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 2: And of all these people, because this is your side

2217
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 2: of the street, would you say Badard has the answers.

2218
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 4: Well, but Dard's not here because he doesn't come to practice.

2219
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I heard him on your shows yesterday though.

2220
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're talking about that early. He almost took

2221
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 2: what Duce said verbatim.

2222
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 4: You heard our show, you heard that show?

2223
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like to not get Greg on my case.

2224
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's so a.

2225
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 2: Lot of people concerned because they want this team to

2226
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 2: do well.

2227
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, I that is really what it is to me.

2228
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 5: And I know that some people don't think that that's

2229
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 5: the case for the media, but I a lot of

2230
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 5: people want this to turn around and are curious about.

2231
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's better for everybody, Yeah, for all the

2232
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 2: teams in this region to be doing well. Right.

2233
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know I agree with that, especially I mean

2234
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 4: from a professional standpoint, it's certainly more enjoyable to cover

2235
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 4: a successful team and just a losing one.

2236
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 7: Right.

2237
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 3: What's that like, Paw.

2238
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 4: Paw tell me the day you're at twenty nineteen, you

2239
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 4: just didn't appreciate it.

2240
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 3: No, this is miserable.

2241
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 4: This is miserable.

2242
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 2: What's your definition of an offensive weapon?

2243
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 3: Can you be very among the weapons but not actually.

2244
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 4: Be a weapon?

2245
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Lead the witness? Sorry, what's your definition of that. I

2246
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 2: just want to know, because you.

2247
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 5: Know my definition. I would say somebody that the defense

2248
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 5: has to prepare for if you're going into a game.

2249
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 2: So you're more with Paul.

2250
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 5: Into a game week now, I'm not saying by default,

2251
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 5: because the team just has nobody else to prepare for.

2252
01:43:56,200 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 4: So we're going to circle player Douglas. I knew that's

2253
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 4: where I knew where this was heading. I knew where

2254
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 4: this was heading.

2255
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 5: But talk a lot about Tuesday players. It's a Michael

2256
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 5: Lombardi term when the when the coaches. I'm sure it's

2257
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 5: a football term that he has revealed to the publisher.

2258
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,799
Speaker 4: Like Al Davis used it. So we stole with yeah,

2259
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 4: tuesday players.

2260
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 5: You know guys that when the coaches get into the

2261
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 5: game plan meeting for the following week. Who are the

2262
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 5: guys that are being circled on the whiteboard as he's

2263
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 5: a problem, This guy's a problem. We got to do

2264
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 5: something about, ayuk, we got to do something about. You know,

2265
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 5: Trent Williams is going to give us problems. You know,

2266
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 5: this guy's gonna give us problems. The Patriots don't have

2267
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 5: too many.

2268
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 4: Of those, okay, So they have a couple of.

2269
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 2: Your definition is more like Paul's that these are the

2270
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 2: elite players.

2271
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,600
Speaker 4: Like we had an email that was sort of chastising

2272
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 4: us for giving Elliot Wolf a hard time about tackle

2273
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 4: because they chose to get weapons at receiver instead of

2274
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 4: addressing the offensive line. Maybe next year will address the

2275
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 4: offensive line. The last part of it, I totally agreed with.

2276
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 4: You know, be patient. You can't get it all in

2277
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 4: one year. I don't think they got weapons in the draft.

2278
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 4: I think they they may have gotten a good complimentary

2279
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 4: piece in Jalen Polk, who I reiterated for a while.

2280
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 4: I think has good physicality, toughness, football sense, strong hands.

2281
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 4: I think he can be a very good complimentary piece

2282
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:28,440
Speaker 4: to a good offense. Tyler Boyd, I think is where

2283
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 4: I'm like, if I were to ask you Cincinnati, the

2284
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 4: weapons are Jamar Chase and T Higgins. Tyler Boyd's one

2285
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 4: of Joe Burrow's weapons because I count all of the

2286
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 4: skill guys, but he's not a weapon. Capitol w And

2287
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 4: I think the way your sort of explained that you

2288
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 4: would sort of side with me a j Brown weapons

2289
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 4: welcome weapon. Yeah, by definition, Andy Moss weapon by definition,

2290
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 4: Jalen Polk is a weapon because still one of the position.

2291
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 2: But as I always had a dumb down definition to me,

2292
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 2: weapons is who are the arrows in his in his quiver?

2293
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 4: You know that's totally fair. Yeah, And I get what

2294
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 4: you're saying there, Like, I don't think Jalen Polk will

2295
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 4: be a guy that the other team's defensive coordinators saying

2296
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 4: unless there's nobody else. But like if you get Brandon

2297
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 4: Ayuk like they tried to, I don't think they're circling

2298
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 4: Jalen Pogan and we have to do these guys.

2299
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 2: That's where I miss Eric. He would have complimented me

2300
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 2: on my use of the word quiver quiver yeah, I got, yeah, yeah,

2301
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 2: but he would have said something, well you actually said

2302
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 2: because because he has to let people know that he

2303
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 2: also knows that term.

2304
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 4: That's that is true, right, that is true?

2305
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 2: Good to anything else from practice, No, no, no, nothing else.

2306
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 4: We did see.

2307
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 5: I would just say, you know, not to give anything

2308
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 5: too much away, but some of the guys that are

2309
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 5: on those reserve lists p U, P I R. They're

2310
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 5: getting closer, which I think is good news. I saw

2311
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 5: Kendrick Bourne today in the locker room.

2312
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:10,759
Speaker 4: Pads.

2313
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we already talked about that.

2314
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 4: Oh, like the reserve guys.

2315
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 5: Those guys, No, no, those guys are not, but they

2316
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 5: there there when there.

2317
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 2: Were no born.

2318
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 7: No.

2319
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 4: I know they can't practice, but I was wondering if

2320
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 4: they're doing their rehab work in full past.

2321
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 5: That was not not to our eye. But I don't

2322
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 5: know what happens once they get on the rehab field.

2323
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 5: But not to our eye. But I would say Kendrick Bourneuki.

2324
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 4: Sooner.

2325
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 5: I don't know about Mapu, but sooner rather than later,

2326
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 5: I would say for both those guys, Mapu. To me,

2327
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 5: Mapu is more about do they feel like he has

2328
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:53,719
Speaker 5: a role more than is he healthy and ready to play?

2329
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 5: Taki Taki. I feel like they believe is gonna help

2330
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 5: replace Bentley. Uh, but I'm not sure how they feel

2331
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 5: yet about Mapu.

2332
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:02,839
Speaker 4: Interesting.

2333
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:07,799
Speaker 2: Okay, web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address.

2334
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 2: The offensive line was not going to get fixed this offseason. Nope,

2335
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,560
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith was never coming to New England. He explicitly

2336
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 2: stated that he wanted to play for a contender, and

2337
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:22,480
Speaker 2: it's obvious to everyone that the Patriots aren't. Jonah Williams,

2338
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 2: I can conceive was an option, though I don't think

2339
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 2: he's any more exciting than the traffic cones we currently have.

2340
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 2: If this is the best level of player we need

2341
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 2: to pacify people, then Wolf should go and sign Baktari.

2342
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 2: Bill created the problems that Elliott is dealing with, and

2343
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 2: personally agree with that. I'd rather potentially have a quarterback

2344
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 2: and wide receiver for the next ten years.

2345
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 4: Point being, I don't do it too, we don't.

2346
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 2: Point being I don't think that there were a lot

2347
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 2: of real options for the Patriots that left tackle, and

2348
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 2: people are just looking to place blame for a Bill

2349
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 2: problem on this new regime. Not forget that Bill's only

2350
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 2: solution to addressing left tackle was bringing.

2351
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 4: In low I I definitely agree with that.

2352
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 2: I thought that was this year.

2353
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 4: He was brought in for like a like the third

2354
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 4: or fourth tackle. Okay, like they don't have a left tackle?

2355
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 4: Like do I have to keep doing this?

2356
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 2: I think he literally, you don't have any fast even

2357
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 2: last year.

2358
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:23,719
Speaker 4: No, Like, I agree with him, this is Bill Bill

2359
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 4: created this problem. I agree with that. Yeah, but we've

2360
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,600
Speaker 4: done nothing to try to fit at least start to

2361
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 4: fix it right, And he's saying he had to start

2362
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 4: from scratch again next year.

2363
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 2: And he said Bill didn't either. He didn't try to

2364
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:34,719
Speaker 2: fix it either.

2365
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:37,799
Speaker 4: But he had a left tackle, not one that you loved,

2366
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 4: but he had Trent Brown.

2367
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 2: Trent Brown.

2368
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, like there's a difference. They had a left tackle

2369
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 4: on the roster. I personally had no faith in Trent Brown,

2370
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 4: but he was a left tackle. He played left tackle for.

2371
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,600
Speaker 2: You, that's true, and played left tackle.

2372
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 4: Before you, So I mean he was more of a

2373
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 4: right tackle, but he played left tackle for the Patriots.

2374
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Speaker 5: I definitely agree that with the fact that it is

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01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:09,440
Speaker 5: an inherited problem. Yeah, last off season they had ample opportunities.

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01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 5: It was a decent free agent class at the tackle position.

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01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 5: You had McGary, mcglinchy, Juwan Taylor, Like there is decent

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01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 5: tackles available in free agency. They didn't draft to tackle

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01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,639
Speaker 5: on the twenty three draft. You know, Gonzales White Mapu

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01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 5: right off the top. So I agree with that part

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01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 5: of the email. They had better opportunities to address it

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01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 5: last off season than they did this offseason.

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01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 4: And they don't want blame Pie. It's vast majority on

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01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,799
Speaker 4: the previous regime. I would wholeheartedly agree. I'm not killing

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01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 4: Elliott Woolf because of the state of the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 4: I'm questioning his refusal to even add a single option

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01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,600
Speaker 4: at the position. That's the only thing I'm questioning. But

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01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 4: this problem was created by Belichick.

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01:50:57,479 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 2: Let's get to the TPX hotline. Don'son North Carolina. What's up? Done? Done?

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01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 4: Okay, Don, he's gone.

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01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 2: We'll go to Alex and Austin. What's up Alex?

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01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 17: Hey, we do it? Good question for Evan. One of

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01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:21,799
Speaker 17: the things that I saw that gave the Saints success

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01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 17: against the Cowboys and Micah Parsons in particular was their

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01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 17: use of chipping and cutting to kind of mask their

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01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 17: less susteller tackle play. Is that something that you could

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01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 17: see us implementing in the future to deal with a

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01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 17: Nick Bosa this week? Perhaps?

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01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 10: And I'll take it off the thanks.

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01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, they do a decent amount of chipping with

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01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 5: the tight ends already. I cut. Blogging is is tough.

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01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 5: You know, that's a that's a hit or miss type

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01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 5: of thing, especially the rules that we are now. But

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01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 5: they do a decent amount of chipping with the tight

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01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 5: ends already. I think the one thing that I would

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01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 5: just say is maybe some more concepts where you're only

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01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 5: sending two guys into the route Like. I don't love

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01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 5: those types of concepts normally, but when you can't block anybody,

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01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even chip. I would just leave the tight

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01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 5: end in there, like especially against a guy like Nick

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01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,560
Speaker 5: Bosa Matts pro Yeah, seven eight guys in protection.

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01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 4: I would rather do that.

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01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 5: I get the chip and release element because now usually

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01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 5: the chip guy becomes an outlet or like a check

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01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 5: down late in the progression.

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01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 4: But against a guy like that, I might just leave

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01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 4: him in.

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01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the latest one? Pretty?

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01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 3: I know we're getting the injury report this afternoon. But

2421
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:39,719
Speaker 3: he's banged up too, isn't.

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01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 4: He HADNRI in his back that came back clean now

2423
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 4: according to reports.

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01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 3: Deal with the pain.

2425
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 4: He ran a lot the other day.

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01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, ten times, Josh Wrightson. I'd just like to take

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01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 2: a minute and thank Fred profusely on behalf of all

2428
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,640
Speaker 2: listeners for knowing when to give up on callers that

2429
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 2: are breaking up in lack during the postgame show. I

2430
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 2: don't know, am I doing? Am I gonna have to

2431
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 2: do something about this?

2432
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 4: Well, just so you know, we've now had okay, go ahead,

2433
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 4: finished THEA.

2434
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 2: During the post game show, there were several callers that

2435
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 2: sounded like they were phoning in from a washing machine,

2436
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 2: and we're allowed to stay on the line for the

2437
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 2: better part of a minute. While it was funny to

2438
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 2: watch Paul squirm, it made for a brutal listen. And

2439
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 2: on another note, has Paul named any tackles yet?

2440
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 4: So we had an email criticized Matt for not allowing

2441
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 4: me to talk long enough. They're on too long.

2442
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 11: This is fun because the show, it's kind of like

2443
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,879
Speaker 11: going from with Hardy from Trent Brown to Calvin Anderson

2444
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:47,839
Speaker 11: and I'm just kind of wondering if we'd get low audience.

2445
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I'm not sure Trent Brown is why the

2446
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 2: fire is lit on that's seat.

2447
01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 4: Huh, He's not the hot seat. I don't know if

2448
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 4: Tren Brown is really there.

2449
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't think Matt realized how tough this job is.

2450
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 2: I'll I'll tell you guys. I was sitting in my

2451
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: office during the off season, and you know, it became

2452
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 2: clear that Hardy wasn't coming back that day, and Matt

2453
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 2: walked into my office. You know how he walks in,

2454
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 2: He says, Fred, I like to formally put my hat

2455
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 2: in the ring to be the post and pregame show host.

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01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 3: Please and thank you, please and thanks. So I say, though,

2457
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 3: I said to Paul, and this has nothing to do

2458
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 3: with Matt Smith. Just Hardy is so talented and funny

2459
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 3: and there was such an ease of the show with

2460
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 3: him that it was gonna be impossible for anybody to

2461
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 3: really step into that role and do it the way

2462
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 3: that he did it.

2463
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 4: I referred to him as yeah, I mean as we

2464
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 4: had a lot of hosts.

2465
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 2: And you know he knows magic. Did you know that?

2466
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 7: Wow?

2467
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 4: What a what a talent music? He is very talented.

2468
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 3: I'm just no, I I do miss him.

2469
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you listen that morning show, maybe

2470
01:54:58,440 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 2: he'll be back here before we know it.

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01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 3: I'm a friend of the show.

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01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 2: I think William writes in love the show. I don't

2473
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 2: have time to email, but he did that. But I

2474
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 2: listened on a regular basis. I really like to get

2475
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 2: the newsletter well by emailing. Now you already did so,

2476
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 2: thank you for emailing. And you'll be in the El

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01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 2: Patriots Unfiltered Newsletter.

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01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 4: Are we writing this? Yes, you are well.

2479
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 2: You might be asked to contribute something, but the newsletter

2480
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 2: will be put together by our marketing team. But we'll

2481
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 2: have you know, clips from the show, and we'll have

2482
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 2: our u we'll have the records of all of our

2483
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 2: picks up to date in each newsletter.

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01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 4: We have to yeah, yeah, yes, because we have to

2485
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 4: be integrity.

2486
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 2: We were accountable. And we'll have an email of the

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01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 2: week where maybe we give away something to a listener,

2488
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 2: so we might have something from Evan, you know.

2489
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 3: Saying Evan's rumblings from the locker room. What I'm hearing,

2490
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 3: you know.

2491
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 4: I said, I'm not really sure about that.

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01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So that's it.

2493
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 4: That's it.

2494
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 2: I've said, we've I've said.

2495
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 4: Enough, you're gonna.

2496
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 11: Do.

2497
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 2: I got things to do, and we'll be back tomorrow.

2498
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 2: We get picks coming, so we got you know, I

2499
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 2: got a.

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01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 4: Lot of you gotta go find some weapons for the office.

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01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 2: I got I got a lot to do. Email. Who

2502
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 2: was the last weapon on the Patriots? Gronk?

2503
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 4: I would just Ben had to be Gronk, right, I

2504
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 4: think under your definition? Under your definition, yeah yeah, I

2505
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 4: mean to me, like a weapon in the running back

2506
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 4: would be like McCaffrey or Camara, you know, end of list, Barkley,

2507
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 4: like guys that can truly impact big play potential with

2508
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 4: the run in the past, and Stevenson's like a really

2509
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 4: good play like I put Stevenson more like welcome and Edelman.

2510
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 4: I'll take those guys on my team every day and

2511
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 4: they're gonna help me win every week. Yeah, but I don't.

2512
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 4: I don't look at him the same.

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01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 2: It's going to live forever. Now.

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01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 4: I have to get that off of there. I lost

2515
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 4: my pool. It'll be good for put.

2516
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 3: A name to the claim in the spring on top

2517
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 3: of the draft stuff.

2518
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 4: And let you know.

2519
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 5: I'm just waiting for tomorrow morning when Toucher and Hardy

2520
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 5: play Fred ripping them on the air, because you know

2521
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 5: that's coming.

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01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 4: That's okay, yeah, nobody, all.

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01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 2: Right, we'll be back tomorrow. Catch twenty two today.

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01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, tomorrow Today's playbook to make play up inside the playbook.

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01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, and then catch twenty two tomorrow at

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01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 2: two thirty correct. All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow.

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