1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Girls 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, preferred dating partner 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: World Headquarters at the Star. Welcome into Girls Talk Boys Talk, 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: brought to you by Jigsaw Dating, the official dating partner 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. Little scene set here on a Wednesday, 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: we are going to break down the cowboys next opponent, 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football versus the Indianapolis Colts. We'll have Lara Overton, 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: the team reporter, to help us understand that inexplicable final 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: drive by the Colts and new coach and Jeff Saturday. 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Not to mention why Matt Ryan did what he did 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: on that one, but just give you a sense of 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: what we can expect from the matchup. The one thing 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: we can talk about explicable around here is the Cowboys 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: have a penalty problem. Jess. We've given you a little 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: bit of a hard time on here when you've brought 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: it up at times. I think it's because it's almost 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, they've got a penalty problem. Why are 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: we talking about it, right. But I think the question 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: a lot of us had today, at least in the 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: locker room, was you've got a penalty problem. You had 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: one last season, so what are you doing to fix it? 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: So I know, Jesse, you went and sort of deep 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: dived into this, and I was able to talk to 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: an offensive player sort of off the record. I just 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: kind of wanted a sense of is it as simple 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: as focus? And I was told it is. It is 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: as simple as focus, because when you look at the 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota game, for instance, they only had six penalties in 31 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: that one. Their least penalized game was the four penalties 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: for twenty yards against the Commanders. But I was told 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: it is as simple as focus. But there was also 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: a couple of other things that were brought up. You know, 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Dak obviously didn't have the preseason, he had the injury, 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: and it sounds like sometimes and I don't know if 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: it's an annunciation issue, because I used and we were 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: walking in here, they didn't seem like they were having 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: the problems with Cooper, So why is it Dak? And 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: it sounds like sometimes when the words are coming out 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: of Dak's mouth, some of the younger guys are hearing 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: different things, and I thought that was sort of fascinating. 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: So they are working on the cadence work this week. 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: But I even joked, okay, well, in Minnesota, you guys 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: were on a silent count, and I said to Zeke, well, hey, 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: if the silent count worked on the road, why not 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: do it at home? He said, Jane, you're trying to 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: reinvent football here. But he walks back up to me 49 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: in the locker room. He said, hey, I understand your 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: logic there, and it's actually not a terrible idea. Go 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: talk to Dak about it. So I asked Dak about it. 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I mean most teams, and if you're 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: not familiar, they don't have a silent count at home 54 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: because most of the time your home crowd on the 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: field and they keep their mouth shut. But Arizona, for instance, 56 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: does it when they've got certain games that favor a 57 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: louder crowd, and so there are teams that do it 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: at home. And talking to Dak, he understood the question, 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: but he said, ultimately, other teams can exploit you. And 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this issue and you're 61 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: looking at the tape, it felt like the Giants. You know, 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: we talked about how the Cowboys self scout a lot, 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: they try and check out with some of their tells. 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Are the Giants seemed to know that there were a 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: couple of guys they could really take advantage of in 66 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: that game on Thanksgiving. Were you seeing any of that 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, Yeah, they definitely saw some favorable matchups, 68 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: predominantly with Thibadeau and your left tackle Tyler Smith, and 69 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: they were doing a lot of stuff stunning and things 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: like that, just trying to get him off his keys 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: and communication. But then also Dak Prescott, he did a 72 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of directing at the line of scrimmage. There was 73 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: a lot of changing out of plays. It sounds like 74 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: there were some dummy calls, and I wonder if that 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: played into some of the miscommunication as well. Also too 76 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: on a short week, not having practice, so you're coming 77 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: into there and maybe guys, maybe things aren't one hundred 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: percent organized, and he's checking out a play, He's trying 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: to get them into the right play. First time seeing 80 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Winks defense this year, I mean, there's a lot of 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: factors that I thought played and some of the communication stuff. 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: So hopefully they clean it up moving forward. Yeah, And 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: I know we've talked a lot about, you know, the 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: Dak's injury, and you know, this being his week six 85 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: or whatever number we're on when it comes to when 86 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: he comes in. But I think it just goes back 87 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: to giving these younger guys some grace. You know, I 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: don't know that regardless of if you're six games in 89 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: or twelve games in or whatever it is, that that 90 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: stuff is going to be clicking the way you want 91 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: it to click. When you think about the offensive line, 92 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: who the Cowboys have typically had on the offensive line, 93 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: it's been mostly a veteran presence, and so then you 94 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: come in this season and now it's guys who are 95 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: playing in new positions all over the place. They're shifting 96 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. That chemistry takes time. Yes, then 97 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: you factor in a Dak Prescott injury. Now you're learning 98 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: a new position with a rookie offensive line, with a 99 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: new play caller. Then you get your play caller back, 100 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: and those guys had just gotten used to what Cooper's 101 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: cadence was or how Cooper ran the offense, and now 102 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: we got to retrain ourselves. So I just kind of 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: like to think of it as like, you know, kudos 104 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: to them, like they have done so much learning throughout it, 105 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: and it's not going to be perfect. It's hard because 106 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: they were so poor with penalties last year as well 107 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: that it's kind of like, oh gosh, here we go again. 108 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Just a reoccurring theme, but where I feel a little 109 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: bit more comfortable, and we spoke a little bit about 110 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: it yesterday. Was just the up and downness of it 111 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: at least onlike last year. You know, like there is 112 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: some consistency where you're seeing the Commander's game, the Vikings 113 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: game where it can be there. Now it's just a 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: matter of going in playing that tough December football that 115 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: we talk about and really putting the pieces together now. Yeah, 116 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: and so the vibe I got out of the locker 117 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: room today. I talked to Boult Terrence Steele and Tyler Smith, 118 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: the two most penalized guys on your O line much 119 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: less on your team right now. So Tyler Smith currently 120 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: has six offensive holding penalties, four false start penalties. Terence 121 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: still has four false start penalties, one offensive holding penalty. 122 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: Was waiting at their lockers to talk to both of them. Basically, 123 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: what it comes down to is a mental focus situation, 124 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: and what both of them really spoke about was coaches 125 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: have emphasized this since day one coming off of last year, 126 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: So it's not a lack of emphasis emphasizing anything. Something 127 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: I thought was very interesting when I talked to Tyler Smith, 128 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: I asked him, are you still kind of adjusting to 129 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: being in the NFL, because giving him grace, he is 130 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: a rookie. Is it very different from you from what 131 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: you were used to in college? And he said, yeah, 132 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: in college we went off of a clap. We didn't 133 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: even have a cadence, And so he said that overall though, 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: it can be a real weapon for the team if 135 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: they use the cadence correctly, he said, but for me, 136 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: it's been very different adjusting to that pre snap process 137 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: because it is still new for him. Essentially. He said 138 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: though that when it comes to self scouting, he looks 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: back at the same tendencies that he does in all 140 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: of every penalty and that's on film him. He looks 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: at movements and specific body movements, whether it be an 142 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: arm or a leg. He said there was a lot 143 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: of that. He said that coaching staff again put an 144 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: emphasis on this since the beginning. Terence Steele when I 145 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: talked to him. He said that, I said, so, have 146 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: you really locked in on penalties more after Thanksgiving or 147 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: has it been something since the beginning. He said that 148 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: it comes down to over communicating, whether that be with 149 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: DAC making adjustments or when they're going up to the line, 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: they need to overcommunicate with every single step of the way, 151 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: just to make sure that they're on the same page. 152 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: He said that when it comes to self scouting, the 153 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: coaches have emphasized this over and over and over again. However, 154 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: he said it is on them to communicate. He said, 155 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: coaching is what it is at this point. It is 156 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: up to us to overcommunicate. So really comes down to 157 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: mental focus and over communication is what they're boiling it 158 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: down to. It sounds like for both Tyler's Smith and 159 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: Terence too. Yeah, it sounds like when I was talking 160 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: to guys in the locker room, they took exception with 161 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: the issue because typically when you see a team like this, 162 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: you say, well, they're not really that disciplined, and they 163 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: kept going back to the focus. In other words, they 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: were taking accountability for Look, a lot of this is 165 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: on us, And I said, all right, so what are 166 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: you guys doing about it. Now. This is what I 167 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: thought was interesting that not until this week that if 168 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: you if you have a penalty, you're out of the play. 169 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: So if you create a penalty, they're pulling you out. 170 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: And I thought that was interesting. So that's something new, 171 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: And apparently that originated with the leadership council look for 172 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Clarence Hill to be running an article and that we 173 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: were standing there and talking to some folks about that. 174 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: So that was a suggestion from the team itself, like Okay, 175 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: there's being accountable and then there's no one wants to 176 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: get pulled out of a play the next play, right. 177 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: The other thing is getting called out in the big board. 178 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: No one wants to have their name getting I don't 179 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: know about you, guys. I don't love when I get 180 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: called out in front of my bosses or my teammates 181 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: at NFL Network. It's never fun, right. I don't know 182 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: why they haven't done this. Sooner was actually going to 183 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: say that because I mean, as someone who played collegiate soccer, 184 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: my favorite story always sits out when it comes to this. 185 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: We were playing against Old Dominion. It was like the 186 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: third to last game. I was notorious for coming into 187 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: games and I would score really fast. If I didn't 188 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: score in like the first fifteen minutes, it pretty much 189 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen. I don't know why, that's just 190 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: who I was. But on this particular play were it 191 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: was a set piece and Old Dominion was attacking, I 192 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: was lazy on defense. I will admit that one hundred percent. 193 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: I hated playing defense. It's just not my accountability, right 194 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: And my girl who I was supposed to be marking, 195 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: almost scored. Our goalkeeper came up with a phenomenal save, 196 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: and almost immediately my head coach pulled the sub. She 197 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: was standing on the fifty or the halfway line, getting 198 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: ready to come in next dead ball, and so I'm thinking, 199 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, man, I got to do something that right there. 200 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: Immediately I went and I scored, and then he said 201 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: go sit down. So that's something that I've actually always 202 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: wondered why in football you don't see that much more often, 203 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: especially with this team, when that's been a crying theme, 204 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: like threaten them, I promise you on it work. I mean, 205 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: I guess you could argue early in the season when 206 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: the film some of the injury bugs, you could only 207 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: church so many guys on true plays. I mean, so 208 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: I guess you could argue, and maybe I'll ask Mike 209 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: McCarthy about that tomorrow, because I think all of us, 210 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and again this was never a knock on you. 211 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: Jess was like, Yeah, of course penalties are an issue. 212 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: It's sort of a theme. Yeah, but now it is 213 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: kind of rearing its head when you look at how 214 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: close this division is, and you know, even talking the 215 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room, the frustrating thing about these 216 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: penalties is it starts to negate what you can do 217 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: with your playbook. In other words, what you would typically 218 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: do on that third down. When it's third and long, 219 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: you're having to make a decision Kellen and Dak that 220 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: they'd otherwise not have made, and so you're forcing them 221 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: into certain place that they'd rather not And so that's 222 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: why it's an issue, particularly when you start playing really 223 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: really good teams. I mean, the Colton won't get into 224 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: them for seven and one is their record this year. 225 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: That's how the teams we're talking about in December, and 226 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: that's all the teams that we're talking about uh in 227 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But it's something that they've absolutely got to 228 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: fix and they've got to turn around. I think in fact, 229 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: they're averaging what roughly seven and a half penalties a game. 230 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: That's a problem. And when you when you mentioned like right, no, 231 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: absolutely to this point, I think again, you also have 232 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys that you're fielding on this 233 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: team as well, and maybe you don't want to shake 234 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: their confidence. Now you're at this this point in the 235 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: season where it's like you have playing time right now, 236 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: but you need to know that this is gonna be 237 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: you know this, You're gonna be in trouble if you 238 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: do something wrong because you can't do that stuff in 239 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: a playoffs. So I wonder if it was like a Okay, 240 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: let me let me see if you can do it. Yeah, 241 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: like your parents like, let me see if you're gonna 242 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: do right on your own. Oh you're not, says okay. 243 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: And so maybe that's the response too, because you don't 244 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: want to diminish these young guys that are on the fields, 245 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, um confidence. But then also Mike McCarthy talked 246 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: about the aggressiveness that he still wants the team to 247 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: play with, and maybe that's why they've not taken that approach. 248 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: I like it though, because it's about that time of year. 249 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: You know it's interesting tooism. I love this website that 250 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: Chris sent me. I'm telling y'all as the penalty queen 251 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: that I have just officially taken that stance. I love 252 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: this website. What's interesting is you look at all of 253 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: the penalties against the Cowboys. You have false starts so 254 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: far the season. They have sixteen false start penalties. A 255 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: league average for that is a little over twelve. You 256 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: go down offensive holding fifteen offensive holding calls so far 257 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: this season for the Cowboys, league average again a little 258 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: over twelve. Unnecessary roughness seven against the Cowboys, A little 259 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: over three is the league average. I love that context 260 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: because that's giving people a sense of we can talk 261 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: about the penalties, but let's talk about in correlation with 262 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: other teams, because other teams are committing penalties weekend a 263 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: week out. Absolutely, I think I get. It just goes back. 264 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: The reason why it's an issue is when we talk 265 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: about this stagnant offense and why at times they're not 266 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: able to get the ball moving. It's hard to get 267 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: the ball moving when you're shooting yourself in the foot. 268 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of these guys have talked 269 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: about this week. I'll wrap up this conversation before we 270 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: go to our first break by saying, the one thing 271 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: that really stood out to me was a conversation we 272 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: had with Dak in the locker room today about we've 273 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: talked about culture and accountability, but he says that he's 274 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: really opened this up. He wants the young guys to 275 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: know that obviously there's a way to do it right, 276 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: but he wants to be just like MIKEA. Tol Us 277 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when he's done something wrong. 278 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: He wants them to know that they can come to 279 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: him and say that and vice versa. And he talks 280 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: about the conversations that he's having. You know why this 281 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: team because I talked to him about this team being 282 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: special and why is that? Is this why the penalties 283 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: are particularly frustrating, because you guys do have something special, 284 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: but some of these things could be a real killer 285 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: in the postseason. And he says it is special because 286 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: the conversations he has with the defensive coach is something 287 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: that he can't really remember in years pass the dan 288 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Quinn's having Joe wit pick his brain, aid and dirty 289 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: the defensive line coach, And so I love the fact 290 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: that both sides of the ball are communicating, because that 291 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: doesn't always happen. You don't have time in a week, 292 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: if you think about it, you really don't. And so 293 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: I get the sense that as a team, collectively, they're 294 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: looking to turn the corner. But at least there is 295 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: this accountability, there's this open communication. It's we saw it 296 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: at what was that one game where they layded egg packers. 297 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: They all said, I want to be accountable, tell me 298 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: when I'm doing something wrong. Some of them prefer it 299 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: when you tell them they're wrong. And then they put 300 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: up the performance that they did against Minnesota. All right, 301 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: let's get it to our first break. 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What was 355 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: the mood in the locker room this week after that 356 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: inexplicable final drive where Jeff Saturday had three time outs 357 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: and neither here met Ryan saw fit to use it 358 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: against the Steelers. Yeah, it was an all too familiar feeling, 359 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: unfortunately for the Indianapolis Colts this season, because you have 360 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: had not necessarily the same situation being that you know, 361 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: you had that time management, the management issues, but just 362 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: this since that you lost with or you had winnable 363 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: games slip away from you in the waning moment. You 364 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: had it against Philadelphia, you had it against Washington. The 365 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: Cults have now lost three home games in a row 366 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: and this is a very tough pill for them to swallow. 367 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: But it has been characteristic of their entire season. They've 368 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: gotten off to slow starts. They've not taken care of 369 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: the football. They've failed to capitalize in the red zone. 370 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: It's really the same issues that have just unfolded a 371 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: little bit differently in fourth quarters in so many situations 372 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: so far this season for Indianapolis. And you've had so 373 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: many changes, right, you saw them bench Matt Ryan, he 374 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: of course suffered the shoulder injury, but then he had 375 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: that two games, but he sat behind Sam Ellinger. You 376 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: had the departure of offensive coordinator Marcus Brady, and then 377 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: of course moving on from Frank Reich bringing in Jeff Saturday, 378 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: and then Matt Ryan is starting once again. So defite 379 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: all of the changes that you've attempted to make to 380 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: find different results or defined offensive production or continuity, whatever 381 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: it happens to be, the coal attempt has not been 382 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: able to establish that, and it has been disappointing. This 383 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: is a team that many people had expected would be 384 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: a top the AFC South and finally able to overcome 385 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans who have dominated this division in recent years. 386 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: And that has been something that has loomed over Indianapolis 387 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen. I gotta be honest, I keep waiting 388 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: for old takes exposed because I can't tell you anytimes 389 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: I went on Good Morning Football, was like, man, Frank 390 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: Reich and Matt Ryan are going to make waves up 391 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: there in Indianapolis, and Jonathan Taylor right there are all 392 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: of these things that it looked so promising. And that 393 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: was one thing that I go back to. We heard 394 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: Frank discussed earlier in the season when thing were unraveling 395 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: a bit with their quarterback situation, you know, coming off 396 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: of the Tennessee game, and Frank said that we didn't 397 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: deliver Matt all the things that we promised him when 398 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: they delivered this pitch in the spring about all of 399 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: the things he was going to have, the situation he 400 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: was going to walk into to your protection, a top 401 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: rushing attack, all of those things and those weren't bigger. 402 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: So those have been puzzling issues surrounding the organization since 403 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: week one. Lara, So I wanted to ask you about 404 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: the defense. Since you're talking about the camaraderie in the 405 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: locker room, how do you think the defense is holding 406 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: up with the lack of offensive production, especially with them 407 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: ranking eleventh against the run, fit against the pass, against 408 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: the pass. It's that defense has some playmakers on end. 409 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: They can be stingy in the back end. How are 410 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: they holding up with being on the field so much, 411 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: and how how do you think that they're responding to 412 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: what's happening with the offense right now? This is a 413 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: top tier defense. You rattled off the stats that are there, 414 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: the playmakers that they have DeForrest Buckner, unique in Gockway, 415 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: Grover Stewart, Zire Franklin has led the league and tackled 416 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: the majority of the season. Then you have step On 417 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: Gilmour guys like down on the back end. As great 418 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: as they have been on the field, they are that 419 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: good in the locker room. For all that this team 420 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: has endured this season, there has been no finger pointing. 421 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: There has never been a it's on this side, it's 422 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: on this side. It's not been hey, the defense is 423 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: doing everything possible weekend. No, it's been nothing of that. 424 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: They've all said in the games that have gotten away 425 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: from them, Hey, what could we have done better? And 426 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: you do look to recent occasions, Hey, they could have 427 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: been a lot better early against the Pittsburgh Steelers with 428 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. There were some inexcusable players that they 429 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: gave up and they said that they were forthcoming about that. 430 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: You look at the finish of the Washington game, the 431 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: finish of the Eagles game. You know that defense has 432 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: said time and time and again, we want to be 433 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: on the field last. We want the opportunity to close 434 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: out games. And you have had situations where they've certainly 435 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: done that for you. They did it against the Kansas 436 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: City Chief, they did it against the Broncos. There are 437 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: a number of games where this defense has won game 438 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: for you. But in recent games, recent situations, the offense 439 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: has not given you enough. And the defense has been 440 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: put in so many situations where they are just strained 441 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: endurance wise, these long drives and they've had to sustain. 442 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: And then also on the flip side, the offense has 443 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: not been able to sustain drive as well. Look at 444 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: how many three and outs they had against Pittsburgh. This 445 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: defense is not getting a break. But you have never 446 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: heard guys complain about that or point to that. Is 447 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 1: that being an excuse or why they've lost games in 448 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: the fashion that they have. So it gives so much 449 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: credit to the guys, and not just in terms of 450 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: no blame, no finger pointing, also guys being willing to 451 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: take tough questions in the locker room. I mean, you 452 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: guys know, going into a locker room and having to 453 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: talk to players after tough losses. It's one of the 454 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: worst parts of the job, right because you like the guys, 455 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: you form these relationships and you're like, man, you know, 456 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: I've done all of this work to be sure that 457 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: I have the respect in the report with the guys 458 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: in the locker room. The last thing I want to 459 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: do is have to go in here and press them 460 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: for answers when it's the last thing that they want 461 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: to talk about is this loss. Every time we've stepped 462 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: in that locker room, that guys have not been more 463 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: professional about answering all of the questions and you know, 464 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: addressing the issues that there are. They have not shied 465 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: away from those things. So I will say, through all 466 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: the adversity that there has been this season, the guys 467 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: have been complete and consummate professional. Clara, it's Hayley. I 468 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: saw you had a one on one with Jeff Saturday. 469 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've had a chance to really get to 470 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: know him as a person. But just to put it bluntly, 471 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: I mean, how over his head do you think he 472 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: is or does he feel that way. How is you 473 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the relationships in the locker room 474 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: and how professional the guys have been on that front. 475 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: But from a head coaching experience, what has that been 476 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: like having him step in for Frank Wraik. Interestingly, I 477 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: have gotten to know Jeff over several years and I 478 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: covered the Indianapolis goals prior to becoming the team reporter 479 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: and going in house in twenty nineteen. And when I 480 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: first got on the job, one of the projects we 481 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: worked on was we traveled to Tequla, Georgia, where Jeff 482 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Saturday was coaching high school football and did a story 483 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: on Jeff And it's a part of a series called 484 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: Colt Forever where we would go and catch up with 485 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Colt's alumni and what they're doing now with their lives 486 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: and do all those things. So I had a full 487 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: immersion into what Jeff was like as a coach at 488 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: that level, literally a whole lot government as a head coach. 489 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: But that really was the foundation of our rapport and 490 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: forming that relationship with him. Then, of course Jeff comes 491 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: back all the time. It's been well documented that he 492 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: was working as a consultant with the team. Obviously, he's 493 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: been around, coming back to games, doing appearances. He was 494 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: here in training camp for a couple of days, so 495 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: every single time I kept up with Jeff. You know, 496 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: we chat and you know, we talk football, we talk 497 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: to family, all of those things. So when Jeff came in, 498 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: it was an easy transition for me because we did 499 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: have that working relationship. And you know, I mean, you 500 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: guys see Jeff enough on television. Who knows just how 501 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: danglikable he is and how authentic he is and how 502 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: knowledgeable he is. I wouldn't say that he's necessarily in 503 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: over his head because of the amount of time he's 504 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: spent within the NFL, within this organization and then also 505 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: assessing the NFL from the port of an analyst. One 506 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: of the things I think Jeff has done so well 507 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: with is delegating do the guys around him and identifying 508 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: the strength within his staff and how he can utilize 509 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: those guys and get him to put the team in 510 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: the best position as possible in the position that he 511 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: is in with limited time remaining on the season. So 512 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: that's one thing that you know, Jeff didn't come in 513 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: and try to revamp the playbook, or he's not trying 514 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: to call the plays. He's looking to Parks, Fraser Hey, 515 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: Parks knows the playbook as well as anyone he's worked 516 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks as much as anyone. Parks is going 517 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: to call the play. He's being the best person you 518 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: know to be able to do that, Okay, delegating to 519 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: Scott and Montgomery with the run games, delegating to Scott 520 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: Milanovich in terms of coordinating with Matt Ryan. So I 521 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: actually think that Jeff is very aware of the things 522 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have the proficiency in doing and finding 523 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: the strength within his staff to do those things. So 524 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: I know, obviously a lot of people are pointing to 525 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: the clock management situation, and he admitted And that's one 526 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: of the things. Jeff is incredibly transparent, and when he 527 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: has something that you know, he makes a mistake or 528 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: there's something that he would have done differently, he's a 529 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: hurt to admit it. And that's exactly what he did 530 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: when he came in on Tuesday. Yeah, I would have 531 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: liked to have that when that went back. So I 532 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: think people can point to, Okay, that situation was certainly 533 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: one where maybe his lack of NFL head coaching experience 534 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: showed to some degree, but also I'm a little bit 535 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: surprised that no one else identified it either. Certainly Jeff 536 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: takes the fall for that and shoulders that as being 537 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: the interim head coach. But yeah, I mean Matt Ryan 538 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: or park s Frazier or any of the other assistants 539 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: maybe you know, could have helped urge that along. So 540 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: it's something that it's something that certainly you look to 541 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: and you grow from, and it's something that you know 542 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: Jeff will build on moving forward. But I also think 543 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: you never should have been in that position in the 544 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: first place. I mean, Jonathan Taylor fumbled on the five 545 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: yard line. You could have easily been up to scores 546 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: in that game. So it really you should never have 547 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: come down to Neednew to call a time out within 548 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: sixty seconds. Taylara, this is Jess now speaking of playing 549 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: up on your strengths. I've been really keying on Gelannie 550 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: Woods at just as being a core part of the 551 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: Cult's offense. Can you talk about what makes him a 552 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: unique opponent considering his size for a tight end, his 553 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: size exactly as you mentioned. I actually just talked with 554 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: mo Aali Cox today, who's now the most veteran tight 555 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: end in that room with the retirement this off season 556 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: to Jack Doyle and most joking that Gilanni even makes 557 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: him look small and mo Aali Cox is a guy 558 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: who played college basketball at VCU who as an absolute 559 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: monster on the board, but certainly it's Gilanni's frame, his 560 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: size all of that. For one, he also has sneaky 561 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: speed for a guy of his size and his link. 562 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: One of the other interesting factors to account for with 563 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Gilanni Woods is he is a former quarterback. He started 564 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: his collegiate career playing quarterback and converted to tight end, 565 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: and in learning about Gilanni and getting to know Gilani, 566 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: he sees that as such a strength because he still 567 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: sees the game and sees the plays as a quarterback. 568 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: So that allows him to really have greater communication and 569 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: just being on in terms of nonverbal communication, knowing what 570 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan might be looking for. Not that he's played, 571 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: of course quarterback to the level that Matt Ryan has, 572 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: but that's how he learned the game of football to 573 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: have the vision as a quarterback. And then he's adapted 574 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: to being a tight end and now being more of 575 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: someone who is not just a playmaking ball catching tight end, 576 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: but also an asset in the blocking game, in the 577 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: blocking scheme. So I do think that Gilanni is not 578 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: only just an incredible athlete and has freakish ability and talent, 579 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: he also is just an incredibly smart football player. And 580 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: one thing that has been so fascinating to witness Gilanni 581 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: from the time he got in the building in May 582 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: as a draft pick, he has just consistently improved. He 583 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: was honestly probably third on the depth chart among the 584 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: tight ends in camp, behind the fellow rookie Drew Ogletree. 585 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: Drew Ogletree came in and was equally utilized to Molly 586 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: Cox and Drew got hurt during the preseason in practice 587 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: one day, and Gilani said that watching where Drew was 588 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: and how quickly Drew was impacting this offense motivated him 589 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: to figure out what he needed to do differently to 590 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: have a more significant impact and be more immediately utilized 591 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: within this offense. So I commend him so much for 592 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: having a bit of adversity as a rookie in terms 593 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: of adapting his game and then looking to the guys 594 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: around him and looking to how they could challenge him 595 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: to only improve and get better. And it was. You know, 596 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: it's a big learning curve at that level, and Gilani 597 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean was. I mean he was one of those 598 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: who was catching game winning touchdowns. Week three is just 599 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: when you look at where he was preseason week one 600 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: to week one of the season, it was just miraculous 601 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: grows from him and he's just continued to build on 602 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: it as you saw last week being parted in the 603 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: situations that he was. I love that if you're looking 604 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: to stack your fantasy roster, you want to know about 605 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: the opponent. Lara's literally got all the news and notes, 606 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: and that is why I want to ask you about 607 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, because, like I said, I was bullish on 608 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, thought he had a little bit of a 609 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder after Deshaun Watson sweepstakes. Obviously the 610 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Falcons grinned him the move to Indy. When you look 611 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: at this game against the Steelers, and you've obviously been 612 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: around this team a lot more, what do you make 613 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: of Matt Ryan Because they didn't complete a pass until 614 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: I think almost seven minutes into this second what second quarter? 615 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: He's been sacked twenty nine times this season, and now, 616 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: by the way, they're going up against a team that 617 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: even Micah Parsons talked about today. Teams don't want to 618 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: throw the ball against the Cowboys because of the pass rush. 619 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: When you're looking at the fact the Cowboys got forty 620 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: five sacks this season, three players with five sacks or more. 621 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: Are they going to keep the ball on the ground 622 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: and rely on Jonathan Taylor or are they going to 623 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: at what kind of weapons does Matt Ryan have or 624 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: can Matt Ryan and this offensive line be trusted with 625 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: their passing game this year. It's a fantastic question, and 626 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: that is something that you knew when Matt Ryan came 627 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: in as a thirty seven year old quarterback. You needed 628 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: to be able to reinforce your offense with top tier production. 629 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: And you have the highest paid offensive line in the 630 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: NFL for a reason. So you have quite Nelson Ryan, 631 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: Kelly Brady Smith as your pillars. But the cult have 632 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: just struggled to solidify those other positions to the point 633 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: now where you have a rookie left tackle in Bernard Ryman, 634 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: who I do think is going to be a very 635 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: good player in this league. But he's coming off of 636 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: playing at Central Michigan. This is a big leap from 637 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: playing you know at Central Michigan to going into starting 638 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: as a rookie in the NFL and going up against 639 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: the type of defense ven front that Dallas is going 640 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: to boast, and then you have Will Fries on the 641 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: other side playing alongside brainsis Will is just a second 642 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: year guy. You're talking about a second year guy who's 643 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: playing on the right side of this line. So it 644 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: is a bit of baptism by fire for some of 645 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: the guys on the defensive front, for sure, and the 646 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: task is only continuing to grow. I think we have 647 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: seen improvement in certain situations, but they've had to work 648 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: through it as the season goes on, and that is 649 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: not what you want to do. I mean when you 650 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: look back to the Patriots game, and it wasn't Matt 651 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: Ryot at that point, it was Sam Ellinger who got 652 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: back nine times, and they were rotating guys in and 653 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: out of the offensive line at that point. So this 654 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: particular front five on that offensive line has not been 655 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: together for a whole lot of time so far as 656 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: this season. You certainly would have expected to have gotten 657 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: more production from your run game than you have so 658 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: far this season. And we have seen Jay t break 659 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: off some of those signature runs, But for much of 660 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: the season JT has not looked like twenty twenty one 661 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: for him. Jonathan Taylor, He's been limited with the ankle injury. 662 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: He has been battling some different things. You haven't had 663 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: that depth on the offensive line that you have in 664 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: the past, and so I do think that has forced 665 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: the Colts starts try to get more creative in the 666 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: passing game. And Matt Ryan is still battling through that 667 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: shoulder injury which he had which he endured in the 668 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: game against Tennessee. So I'm curious exactly at what health 669 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: percentage Matt Ryan feels right now. What you're going to 670 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: have to do in the passing game is your biggest 671 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: threats in terms of guys who are going to make 672 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: those explosive plays and be the difficult matchups. Michael Pittman Jr. 673 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: Is that guy, and then Paris Campbell is going to 674 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: be your speed guy utilize as well. Each of those 675 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: guys have had big moments thus far. I love Alex Pierce, 676 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: the rookie who has been explosive. He had an incredible 677 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: game at home against Jacksonville. But I think teams are 678 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: starting to figure out a bit of Alec Pierce and 679 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: where he's going to be challenged to continue developing his game. 680 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's been difficult too for a guy 681 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: like Alec to have part of the season. You start 682 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan and then you go to Sam Ellinger 683 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: and now you're back to Matt Ryan. Whereas Hey, the 684 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: rest of the receivers on this Indianapolis Colts team, we're like, oh, 685 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: new quarterback. New It's sure, we're used to that. We've 686 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: been here for a couple of years. This is every 687 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: year for us. We're starting with it a new guy 688 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: on our center. So I do think that your biggest 689 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: threats are going to be certainly guys like Paris Campbell 690 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: and Michael Pittman junor in the passing game. I also 691 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: do love how they've utilized jo Lonnie Woods of late. 692 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: But it all starts on the ground. The Colts has 693 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: to do a better job of establishing Jonathan Taylor early 694 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: on in football games because you do not want to 695 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: have to force Matt to sling it as much as 696 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: he has had to do in certain situations. In particular, 697 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: looking to that Jacksonville game at home, certainly not the 698 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: game at jackson Bill that's certainly one to forget for 699 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. But the game at home against the Jaguars, 700 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have a more balanced attack offensively, 701 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: and so that'd be huge path for Parks Fraser, a 702 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: young play caller, you know, getting those opportunities to do 703 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: exactly that. Well, Thank you so much, Larah. I really 704 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: really appreciate all the wealth of information. I love when 705 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: I get the team reporters on here because we only 706 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: get so much time, like the players to scout the 707 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: opponent during the week. So I love when I get 708 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: someone like you on here because I'm on the NFL 709 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: Network tomorrow and You've given me some food for thought 710 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: as I was writing down notes about what I should 711 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: talk about. So I appreciate you so much, Lara, and 712 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: safe travels, and I'll see on the sidelines on Sunday. 713 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Girls can't wait looking forward 714 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: to it. Of course, you're say, I gotta tell you 715 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: listening to her talk about the left tackle from Central 716 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: Michigan and I'm there, Well, the Cowboys have got starting 717 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: left tackle Tulsa Tyler Smith on the right side, talking 718 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: about a second year guy like well, the Cowboys had 719 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: Terrence Still. It sort of makes you appreciate not only 720 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: our offensive line but your quarterback when you think about 721 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: Matt ryding what he was supposed to do. Us talking 722 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: about appreciating we appreciate Michael Gallop around here. But he 723 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: ended up on the injury report, didn't he? This week? 724 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: He did? Yes, we did get our injury report. We'll 725 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: start with the Cowboys, Michael Gallup, Treyvon Diggs. We're not 726 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: practicing today because of that illness. I know that Jerry 727 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: and Mike have both spoken this week about they think 728 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: most of it is cleared up, so hopefully this is 729 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: the last little bit. The good news is they're the 730 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: only two on there with that illness, so that's positive. Elsewhere, 731 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: jay Ron Curse was limited today first shoulder. Mike kind 732 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: of told us that earlier. Anthony Barr was limited with 733 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: the hamstring. I will say about Anthony Barr though, I 734 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: saw him working with Britt and he looks much more positive. 735 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: It feels like he feels ready, so that's a good 736 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: news there. Tank is listed with his foot injury, but 737 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: as we learned last week, he has a laundry list 738 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: of things wrong with him. He was limited as far 739 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: as the Colts go. They had three guys who did 740 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: not pass practice, one of which was Gilanni Woods got 741 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: a shoulder quad injury, so he did not practice today. 742 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: Um Kashman a butcher. This man's name Kiki Kuti Qti 743 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: quity pay no not quity quity is quity was full. 744 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: This is a wide receiver. I'm gonna we'll brush up 745 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: on this. But he was sick as well, so it 746 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: kind of sounds like they have a bug going through 747 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: to a couple of guys who were sick. U a 748 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: couple of guys who are limited. So shorter, shorter injury 749 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: list QT. I gotta see it. I know, I'm sorry, 750 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: You're all good. All right, Well, let's go ahead and 751 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: take our third and final break, and let's have a 752 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: little bit of fun, uh covering this team. During the 753 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: span of my reporting career, Titans haven't really stood out 754 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: around here. They've wanted a strong, tight end room. We 755 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: are a member Jason Witten coming out of retirement and 756 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: sort of slowing down the development of guys like Dalton Schultzen, 757 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: Lake Jarwin when he was here. We remember Gavin Escobar. 758 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: Now we've got four whackables. Who have had an assortment 759 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: of nicknames. Zeke gave me a fun one on our 760 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: postgame on NFL Network, so I sort of drill that down, 761 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: and then you had an awesome conversation with mister Peyton 762 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: Hender shot as well this week, so we will deep 763 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: dive the importance of those tight ends and their personalities. 764 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: On the other side of this break, this is Girls Talk, 765 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: Boys Talk, brought to you by Jigsaw Dating, the official 766 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. 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Dan Quinn's 798 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: longtime support of service members veterans in their families demonstrates 799 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: the Salute to Service tenants who honor, empower, and connect 800 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: with those that preserve our freedoms. The Cowboys are proud 801 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: to nominate coach Quinn as our twenty twenty two NFL 802 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: Salute to Service Award. Club nominee. Join us in making 803 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: sure he becomes a finalist for this prestigious award by 804 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: voting at NFL dot com slash Salute Fan Vote. Thank you, 805 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: jess Well, I am having fun watching this group of 806 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: Titans this year. I thought I'm just gonna say I 807 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: am having I'm just having so I'm having fun on 808 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: the show today, two ladies. It's easier after a win 809 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: and after a four day break for Thanksgiving. So yes, 810 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm fresh. Hopefully the guys are too. When they play 811 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. It is actually a pretty good stretch 812 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: if you think about it. Felt like that Giant's game 813 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: was forever ago. But one of the fun moments in 814 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 1: that game was obviously watching Dalton Schultz haul in two Titans, 815 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: watching the play of the Titans as a group, and 816 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: then the Whack a Mole celebration and the Salvation Army 817 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: Kettle and being around here and covering this team. And 818 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: we've even when Mike McCarthy came here, he talks so 819 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: much about wanting to utilize the Titan group and how 820 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: that opens up the rest of the playbook. And you know, 821 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: just in the past, and this is not a knock 822 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: on Jason Witten. I think there was a great reverence 823 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: given to him because of his time and years of 824 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: service in Dallas. But I remember the locker room being 825 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: very split when he decided to come out of retirement, 826 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: leave the booth at ESPN, and come back, because it 827 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: felt like it slowed down the development of guys like 828 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin at the time, who was popping over Dalton Schultz. 829 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: And then of course she had Dalton's Scholtz. And then 830 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: the Cowboys showed you how important they felt that tight 831 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: end position was when they decided to use a very 832 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: costly franchise tag on Dalton in Dalton's absence because of injury. 833 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we get Peyton Hender shot and 834 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson and Hayley and I kind of light up 835 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: when we talk about either one of them, because when 836 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: I love when you get the young guys in here. 837 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 1: They're not jaded by us in the media yet they 838 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: enjoy opening up and sharing stories. But I had to 839 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: laugh when post game I'm talking to Ezekiel Elliott about 840 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: the Titans, and he said, oh, dumb and dumber and 841 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: Mary Kate, Nash Kate Nash right, and so yeah, we 842 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: could talk about the fact that you know, they had 843 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: the titen play. They had four Titans on one play 844 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: or running back. That's exciting. Each one of them played 845 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: in twenty three snaps of the game against the Giants. 846 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: You had four Titans on seven plays this season, according 847 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: to my buddy Edward or three touchdowns out of that grouping. 848 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: But I don't care about that. I wanted to know 849 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: who Mary Kate and who was Ashley and who was dumbing? 850 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: He was dumber? So I did a little investigative work 851 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: and caught up with old Peyton Hender shot in the 852 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: locker room today, Jazz, we got the we got the 853 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: sound on that. Yes, we do. Post game on NFL Network, 854 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: I asked Ezekiel Elliott about the tight ends and he 855 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: mentioned your nicknames Mary Kate and n Ashley and dumbing, dumber, Yes, 856 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: and your thoughts on this nicknames? Listen? First of all, 857 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: who's Mary Kay? I just asked him my cousin, Hey, 858 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: my cousin as a girl. She's like, which one to are? 859 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: Ya was like he hadn't even talked U much one one? 860 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: I had just asked. He didn't even tell us which 861 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 1: only work? So you don't know if you're dumbing, dumber, 862 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're Mary Katers. I don't know. 863 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: We just both of them I guests as a now 864 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: but dumbing, Dummer and Mary Kay. And I'm actually so, 865 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: what does Linda call you? Or he called? That calls 866 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: me to villy? He called, He called fur wamblam, he 867 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 1: called said Vanby, Sean uh Don and Morall and Dolin 868 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: just dog on a game like that national television Thanksgiving. 869 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: What did your phone look like afterwards, particularly as the celebration. Yeah, 870 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean I can't. I didn't even respond to everybody 871 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: for a couple of days or somebody texts. But it's 872 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: just awesome, you know, because I know, like my whole life, 873 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: my whole family, we all grewup together, so I knew 874 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,720 Speaker 1: my whole family and they're watching together. It's a crazy 875 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: video of all them going crazy. So it was awesome. 876 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: Thank thank you so much. Okay, all right, So since 877 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: they didn't get an answers, I went up to Ezekiel 878 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: Elliott and I said, all right, budd like, help me 879 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: out here, Honey, went through this interesting story. Do we 880 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: have the Zeke sound too? Jazz? Zeke literally lit up 881 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: to tell me the story. And I still don't know 882 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: if I made sense of it. So Payton got adal 883 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: in the first New York game, and we're in for 884 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: a minute office. We run the first two times. If 885 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: we get first nine games over, we run. We're gonna 886 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: run and nake it. We tell them in a hole, 887 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: whatever you do, do not go out of bounce. Out 888 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: of bounce, we run to nake it. Throw it to 889 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: Fay on the sideline. All he was worried about trying 890 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: to get a hurdle like Henny and jumps up in 891 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: the air and they throw him on a bounce and said, 892 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: that's why they're dumb and dummer. Yeah, but Mary, Kate Nashley, 893 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: where does that come from? Oh? So when I grabbed 894 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: I saw Jake Ferguson walking out and I asked him 895 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: and he just said, I'm dumbest. So that just gives 896 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: you a sense of just sort of the fun that 897 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: they're having in the locker. Realm, real quick. I know 898 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: we need to wrap up the show, but Haley, you've 899 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: got an awesome interview with Peyton. What was some of 900 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 1: your insight? So I actually met Jake and Peyton earlier 901 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: this summer. I did at Galvinize camp with Laura Oakman, 902 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: and I did it here with the Cowboys, so I 903 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: kind of had a pre getting to know them, and 904 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: even in that, they were two of the rookies who 905 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: were already very outspoken, both about personal stuff and just 906 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: about football, so they had kind of already been on 907 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: my radar. I've spent a lot of time chatting with 908 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: them this season too, but I ken on Peyton particularly 909 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: because you know, I was a walk on in college 910 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: as well, so I always relate to people who kind 911 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: of have to grind to get what's theirs. So it's 912 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: telling you, guys before the show, you know, I'm walking 913 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: him here through our studio. I walked in past our 914 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: podcast studio and he's just like, oh man, this is 915 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: so cool. This is so cool, and just the humility 916 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: that he has when it comes to playing. One of 917 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: the things he told me, and I don't want to 918 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: ruin too much because the interviews dropping on Saturday, but 919 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: the thing that stood out to me the most was 920 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: he spoke about the draft experience. He talked about how 921 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: he was for sure going to be drafted for the 922 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys and what they do. They called his boy Jake 923 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: and they drafted Jake instead, And sure, it's funny now 924 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: that we laugh about it, but at that moment he 925 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: was devastated. He said, this was something that I had 926 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: worked my whole entire life for. This is something that 927 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: when people ask you what you want to do when 928 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: you grow up, this was it and I was so 929 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: excited to accomplish that goal. So he said, you know, 930 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: I was in a dark place after that. And he 931 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: was shy when he came here because he didn't know anybody, 932 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: which is so funny to think about now because he's 933 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: the least shy person in that locker room. So just 934 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: kind of getting to see that side of him. How 935 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 1: he went from playing with a chip on his shoulder 936 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: to prove a point to now he plays with a 937 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder so that he can be a 938 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: part of the group and contribute at the same level 939 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: that Jake is doing, or Dalton's doing, or even Sean Um. 940 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited for you guys to see the story. 941 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: It blew me away with just how personable he was, 942 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: how much of a journey that he's had to get here, 943 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: and the impact that he's making. You know, he's two touchdowns, 944 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: but he talked about for him, it's not so much 945 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 1: about getting into the end zone. It's about drawing players 946 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: to him so that his teammates can score touchdowns. And 947 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 1: you don't really get that a lot in this game. 948 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: So it was a phenomenal conversation. He I am his 949 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: literal number one fan, So I can't wait for you 950 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: guys to see that Saturday. Such a great work since 951 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: you've been here, Hayley, So I look forward to that. 952 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 1: So can't way fans check that out. And they've got 953 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: such a fun little corner. Yeah when So that's what 954 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: Chris Arnold said on the fan is that they called 955 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: themselves the four Horsemen. They are fun to watch and 956 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: keep up with. And who does he remind you of? 957 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: I feel like there's like a Mac Miller vibe to him, 958 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: a little bit yeah to me, for gives me Travis 959 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: ken See to a tea, like if Pravis Kelsey had 960 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: a little brother, it's ferg I haven't been able to 961 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: pinpoint who I think Peyton is, like he's just so 962 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: hood like I just I have no other way to 963 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: describe him. And I even told him first time I 964 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 1: met him, I'm like, Peyton, you are