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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Alinda Cigara aka Hooray for the riff Raff.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing long wey, I'm just playing in lone weezy.

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Speaker 1: Hi. Welcome to the show. I'm Norah with me as

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Speaker 1: always as Sarah Ora.

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Speaker 3: Here I am. I like how you always point to

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Speaker 3: me as.

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Speaker 4: If we're on TV.

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Speaker 5: It makes me feel so welcome.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome to Spain.

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Speaker 6: We're here.

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Speaker 1: We're in Spain right now. Our bea beautiful The episode

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Speaker 1: was recorded in Brooklyn, but our intros recorded in.

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Speaker 3: The intros from around the world. Our guest today is

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Speaker 3: the very soulful and profound singer songwriter Alinda Cigara aka

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Speaker 3: Hooray for the riff Raff.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so in love with the music. I've been

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Speaker 1: listening to Hooray for the riff Raff for a long

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Speaker 1: time and their voice is just breathtaking to me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they're from the Bronx, but you're gonna hear all

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Speaker 3: about how they ended up in New Orleans. Their sound

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Speaker 3: evolved into sort of a beautiful, powerful style that's really moving,

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Speaker 3: and their songs and lyrics are so expressive or heart wrenching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or kind of punk rock just yes, yeah, in

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Speaker 1: just the right way.

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Speaker 3: Alinda's truly a masterful songwriter.

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Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. I'm really excited about this episode. We had

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Speaker 1: a great time. This was my first time meeting them

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Speaker 1: and we felt really like it felt like old friends.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very natural.

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Speaker 1: It was fun.

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Speaker 3: They found inspiration in COVID times and wrote some music

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Speaker 3: and you're going to hear some of those songs in

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Speaker 3: the episode, and you're going to hear about their most

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Speaker 3: recent projects. And there's also a surprise duet cover.

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Speaker 2: Oh Yes day too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, please enjoy and don't forget to like and subscribe to.

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Speaker 3: Nora Jones is playing along like and we'll keep the

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Speaker 3: music going.

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Speaker 1: Hey, please enjoy today's episode with my friend Melinda Sagara. Hekay,

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Speaker 1: hooray for the refraf.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I take my shoes off of course.

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Speaker 7: Why do won't do? Rooted Dungrin bloom in Jasmine, Dadline

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Speaker 7: Nutshepe Fox Glover in a game, Rooted Dundrum.

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Speaker 8: I can hear you speaking, you can feel me breathing,

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Speaker 8: break my head, Open.

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Speaker 9: Money and Glory, Nikki Boys.

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Speaker 6: Limestone near the glade.

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Speaker 10: Boo boobis bercade oed Dan drim.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: I can't look back.

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Speaker 6: I lost it all on.

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Speaker 2: This one with Cherag.

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Speaker 11: Don't turn your back on the main lamb. Don't turn

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Speaker 11: your back on the main lamb. Don't turn your bag

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Speaker 11: on the main lamp, roted Dan drem Ya.

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Speaker 2: I wake up in a.

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Speaker 10: In a field of corn, just Stirner. I describe your boy,

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Speaker 10: or spirit find me.

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Speaker 2: Or spirit got me.

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Speaker 12: I'm addicted to the.

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Speaker 6: To the higher violence.

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Speaker 12: Full Moon made book.

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Speaker 2: Should be called perfume.

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Speaker 13: Wrap your limbses around me.

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Speaker 6: This won't be over soon.

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Speaker 11: Don't turn your back on the main lamp. Don't turn

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Speaker 11: your back on the main lamp. Don't And you're beg

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Speaker 2: Road.

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Speaker 14: It don't here. Not everything that.

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Speaker 9: Is going, and I don't know what it's gonna take

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Speaker 14: Not everything.

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Speaker 15: Is going, and I don't know what it takes to

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Speaker 15: carry on, or I don't know what it takes.

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Speaker 2: To carry on.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's like my favorite version of that.

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Speaker 5: I love playing with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that song is so cool. The flowers, it's the flowers,

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Speaker 5: They're very punk. It's so yeah, these specific ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is cool. And what's chimiko perfume?

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Speaker 5: That's like. So I was looking at this book called

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Speaker 5: Plants of the Gods. I think it's like, all, I

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Speaker 5: don't like do psychedelic drugs, but like obviously everyone I

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Speaker 5: But there was like all this stuff about the people

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Speaker 5: called chimiko perfume. Oh yeah. So it was just like

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Speaker 1: I can see that I can sell, but it's such

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Speaker 1: a great way to describe them all, you know. It's

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Speaker 1: just so cool to have all this in a song.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. It felt really like I love a lot of

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Speaker 5: I can't be around humans, but all these plants are

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Speaker 1: So that's great. Yeah, that's a good thing to turn to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: totally beautiful. Do you live in New Orleans? Yes?

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Speaker 5: And how long have you lived there since? I left

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I spent a couple of years in Nashville and

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Speaker 5: I was just like what am I doing? And I

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Speaker 5: went back. But New Orleans definitely has like very powerful

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Speaker 1: Not a ton, but a little oh wow. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: It's really like it's all the extremes, you know, the

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Speaker 1: On the street. Yeah, I read an article that talked

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Speaker 1: about you were busking and do you call it busking?

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, was that you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that would be cool though, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean where we would play? Would we would

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Speaker 5: it's so funny, and then you like graduate till you're

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Speaker 5: like playing on Royal Street. But I would play banjo

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Speaker 5: I would write a little bit, but it was mostly

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Speaker 5: and I just like loved that lyricism. I think I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the best way.

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Speaker 1: What brought you to New Orleans? You grew up here

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Speaker 5: And I just felt like I couldn't survive here. I

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Speaker 5: So I was just like, well, that's what all my

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Speaker 5: So I kind of like wandered around like a little

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Speaker 1: You know, that's intense. So how long was that until

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Speaker 5: Around when I was eighteen, So it was like a

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Speaker 1: You didn't have a place.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not domesticated until I was like nineteen, I think,

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Speaker 5: so where do you sleep? Abandoned buildings? And you know,

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Speaker 5: I was really lucky that I had a good crew

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Speaker 5: of other kids. But we formed a band, yeah, and

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Speaker 5: then that became like my family. It was actually like

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Speaker 5: that's like how I don't know, it's interesting, like my

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well I mean it does sound like you

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Speaker 1: had a lucky run absolutely, and to be surrounded by

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Speaker 1: you know, I know, and it's really intense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, life is crazy. So you're working on a new album.

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Speaker 5: I've been recording in North Carolina and Durham Wow, yeah, fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to try you try a different guitar. I'm

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Speaker 5: Are you cool?

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Speaker 1: If I play piano? No, that is not me, that's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he It's like very It's such a great experience

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is that my Yeah, that's my Willie Nelson dart.

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Speaker 1: They bought me that nylon string as a gift. It

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Speaker 5: Oh it's so nice. I got to play this with

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Speaker 1: No? But I was wondering who's on the record, because

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Speaker 5: Those those are all Durham guys. Oh, there's like an

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Speaker 5: I got. It'd be so fun if you played there.

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Speaker 1: Well, now that I know you, I'm coming to New

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Speaker 6: Oh cool.

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Speaker 5: I've never met that?

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Speaker 1: Oh you should.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like, they're so mind blowingly talented.

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Speaker 5: Let's I'm definitely a big Her name is Tank. Her

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Speaker 5: name is Tank. Yeah, I love her like spoken words.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, she's really Her brain is like

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that would be fun. Let's start a band.

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Speaker 1: I'm down. I need a new band. Why not just

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Speaker 5: Add them to your wallet.

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Speaker 1: I love doing music. I love music.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's should we just try it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You want me to start it?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: That weird?

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Speaker 5: No, that's great.

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Speaker 17: Sky trees and birds and lobbies, live ownerzies along.

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Speaker 7: Rivers and lakes and floods of quays, live owners.

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Speaker 6: Han o mine not me, they.

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Speaker 6: Won't you hold me? So can't see.

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Speaker 6: And not mine, not me, you that.

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Speaker 16: Who about the lightning strikes a little my name, it's

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Speaker 5: And not mine, not me.

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Speaker 24: That through thelxies of song and pray.

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Speaker 13: Be lost in time, growing of vine, Egyptian spring.

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Speaker 1: Song makes me want to cry. Yeah, I felt such

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Speaker 1: a beautiful song.

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: How did you feel?

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Speaker 5: Oh? No good? I was just saying, like from since

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, no, that song is very much. That was

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Speaker 1: It's really it makes me cry. I read something about

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Speaker 1: me think of that and related to this, and yeah,

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00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: it's a real it's a real like zoom back out

450
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: into yourself kind of thing, which I kind of can

451
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: relate to, you know.

452
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like we were all going through that,

453
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 5: like you know, it's kind of what I was saying

454
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 5: before about taking stock or feeling things that happened a

455
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 5: decade ago. It was like just this really incredible moment

456
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 5: where we're all kind of having a montage of our

457
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 5: entire life being like all the times and all the

458
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: bad times and all the good times. And I mean,

459
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: I think we haven't really been able to fully feel

460
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: what happened to all of us, you know. I agree.

461
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: It's funny because I remember in the beginning, I have

462
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: two small kids, and so in the beginning of the pandemic,

463
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, there was a certain point in time where

464
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: it was like we spent it with a couple friends.

465
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: Oh y begin which I was like, this is amazing.

466
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: We could to hang out with our friends.

467
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: We're doing totally okay considering all things. Considering we're doing

468
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: totally fine. I looked at back at pictures recently. In hindsight,

469
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, we were a mess, but I didn't realize it,

470
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, like my kids were a mess. We were

471
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: a mess. My friends were as Yeah, we were all

472
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: a mess. I was drinking so much wine.

473
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: Oh my god, with the wine. I know that was

474
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 5: like the one place that didn't close. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Yeah,

475
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 5: I feel like we're all so scared and we were also,

476
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 5: I mean, New Orleans and New York both got hit

477
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: so hard and there was so much gratitude that I felt,

478
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 5: but also like mixed with this like panic and yeah,

479
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 5: I just had like this whole album got me through

480
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 5: and it was kind of this It sounds really intense,

481
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 5: but it was like this feeling of like if this

482
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: is the end, this is like the I'm capsule. I

483
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: want to leave for the aliens, you know.

484
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: Sweet, this feels like a love song to your life,

485
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, and to all life on earth. Yeah, I'd

486
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: love to do that song so.

487
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 5: Totally.

488
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: This is also from Life on Earth.

489
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, this is like my song for

490
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: like little Alinda. I talk about like getting into other

491
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: people's songwriting. I've been writing the song for years and

492
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: I couldn't figure out how to write it.

493
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 6: And then.

494
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 5: Heroes was playing, like in a coffee shop. I was like, oh,

495
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: I'll just like try to do that, but change it,

496
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 5: you know, So I just like played Heroes and then

497
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, something happens, like when you're like copying

498
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 5: something and then it becomes a photocopy of a photo, you.

499
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: Know, like, yeah, it's not the thing at all anything.

500
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally. But that was the song that like unlocked

501
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 5: this for me.

502
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's awesome.

503
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 5: Cool. Should I just start out?

504
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: I was coming.

505
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: Take it.

506
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: They always want you to take it.

507
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 26: Just close your rasp, baby, fake it, burning inside out, shaking, screaming,

508
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 26: hysterical racket lost in an option of requid, burning, inside.

509
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 6: Out, cold feet.

510
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 8: I was a kid, I smallly would have done an

511
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 8: illegally to be by.

512
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 6: His well, I can't speak.

513
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 14: I get the feeling, my horary.

514
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 6: It's been a terrible news week, man.

515
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 5: Do I don't know how.

516
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 6: Or no, no, hew, he.

517
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: But I.

518
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 6: I don't this to be.

519
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 9: The song of my life, the song of my life,

520
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 9: the song.

521
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: Of my.

522
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 8: I just want to be free, Get over it in time,

523
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 8: push it out of mama.

524
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: Cold faith. I was a kid out only he pushed

525
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: me down on the car creep.

526
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 6: Now I can't speak.

527
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 14: I get to feel mord bet.

528
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 6: I'll just make it through this week and I'll get

529
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 6: it out a life.

530
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 22: But I don't, honey, I don't know how, Oh, Dona, Donna, don't.

531
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 6: Don't know how.

532
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: But I.

533
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 6: Don't want this to be.

534
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 9: The song of my life, the song of my life,

535
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 9: the song of mynd.

536
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 8: I just wanted to be free, Get over it in time,

537
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 8: push it out of my mind.

538
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 23: Mine and nobody believed me. Nobody believed me. Nobody believes me.

539
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 23: Nobody believes Oh, nobody believed me. Nobody believed he believe

540
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 23: nobody believed me. Nobody believed.

541
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 5: That was good.

542
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. I'm glad you wrote that song.

543
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 13: Thank you.

544
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this song is so so heavy, and it's just

545
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do people come up to you a

546
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: lot about it?

547
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 5: Yes? Have you gotten a lot of Yeah, A lot

548
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 5: of people telling me like that. They relate to it

549
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: or that they feel seen by it, and it's you know,

550
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: and it's like, of course about my particular experience, but

551
00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 5: it can lend itself to any like traumatic life moment

552
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 5: that you're just like, you know, I was writing, I

553
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: was just trying to express like I identified with traumatic

554
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 5: events in my life for so long, and then I

555
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 5: reached a point where I was like, I don't really

556
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: want to identify with this anymore, Like I'd love to

557
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 5: identify as like an adventurer.

558
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: Like that's what I love about this now, the way

559
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: it's addressing how you really feel at this point in

560
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: your life about it. Yeah, I could see people relating

561
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: so much to it.

562
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think we're afraid to let go of

563
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: hard times because then they do become At least for me,

564
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 5: I was afraid of like letting go. Maybe I was

565
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 5: afraid of feeling happiness, or maybe I was afraid like

566
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 5: then what was it all for if not wearing it

567
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: as like a badge of honor or something. And then

568
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: I realized like, oh, it's always in me, It's always

569
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 5: within me, Like it's okay to like set it free. Yeah,

570
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 5: you know, And I think I was afraid of well,

571
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 5: then what's next If I like embrace healing or happiness,

572
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: then I can be let down.

573
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: You know. Oh, it's true.

574
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 5: So it's like this vulnerability of like let's just jump

575
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: off the cliff and like see what happens.

576
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's very vulnerable. It's not a unique perspective

577
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: because I'm sure a lot of people relate to it,

578
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: but it's it's a unique framing of something in this form,

579
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: this art form.

580
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 5: You know.

581
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: It feels so good to encapsulate things like this in

582
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: some form, I think, And yeah, I just think it's

583
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: such a you should be really proud of it. It's

584
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: very oh, thank you, very liberating song. It's really beautiful.

585
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah. I felt so relieved when it was recorded,

586
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 5: just like you must have, you know, yeah, because it

587
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 5: took me a lot of years. I mean, it took

588
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 5: me a lot of years to feel like that, and

589
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 5: then it took me years to write it. It's that

590
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 5: thing about like simple but but complicated, you know.

591
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really an interesting

592
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: feeling to be inside listening to the song, you know

593
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: what I mean.

594
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 5: Well, thanks for playing it with me.

595
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: It's a great one.

596
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: Yay.

597
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: We were friends though I know we do.

598
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: Even when we were texting, I was like, wow, I

599
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 5: feel like we already are from Yeah.

600
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: When you texted me back, I was like, Okay, this

601
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be awesome.

602
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's such a relief I know about feeling. Should

603
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 5: we do living in the city.

604
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that one limn in the city.

605
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

606
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: Should we do the response to yeah?

607
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 5: Will you okay? Yeah? Okay, cool?

608
00:38:43,760 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 4: Wow, dude, Wade, I got hurricane.

609
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm big name.

610
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 12: He's wasted, he said, I'm the sweetest thing.

611
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 15: That is new.

612
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 6: The tasted.

613
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 12: Mya buzzer, singing love songs.

614
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 27: All in her dark apartment, fourteen floors of birden and

615
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 27: fourteen floors a die.

616
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 18: Living in the city, Living in city, Wei, just living

617
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 18: in the CD live it in the city, living.

618
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 6: In the city.

619
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: Boy, Well, it's hard, it's hard. It's hard.

620
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 12: I take you to the stairwell.

621
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 6: I'll give you something I can offer.

622
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 24: You know.

623
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: The heart, it's not the hope.

624
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 13: The heart is a lonely hunter.

625
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: How long summer days.

626
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 12: We're just sneaking by the river.

627
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 6: Overlock my dreams away.

628
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 12: And I'll watch the city quibb.

629
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 18: Living in the city, living in switches living in the city, living, and.

630
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 14: It's all living in the city boy.

631
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: Well it's hard, it's sold it's hard.

632
00:40:36,360 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 12: You know, Gypsy bit the dust, you know the shit

633
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 12: he had it was poison.

634
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 6: Now everybody wants.

635
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 28: Just a taste of what we saw now standing on

636
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 28: the rooftops, which is yelling till the morning, all surrounded

637
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 28: by the visions.

638
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 14: Oh keeper fool them.

639
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 6: Living in the city.

640
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 18: Then it is witches living in the city, all live

641
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 18: it a city.

642
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: Boy, where it's hard, it's hard, it's hard.

643
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 6: Living in the city. It is swizes living in the city.

644
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 18: Its all live it in city boy, where it's hard.

645
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: It's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard.

646
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, fun, I could taste the city right like that

647
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 5: hot garbage smell.

648
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel it.

649
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

650
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: And last night you did a show at Joe's Pub.

651
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

652
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: It was a special show with actors ye for the

653
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: Navigator album.

654
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 5: Yeah. So when I wrote the Navigator, I always had

655
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: it in mind where I was like, I want this

656
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 5: to be a play somehow, like not quite a musical,

657
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: kind of like rock musical, but like the soundtrack to

658
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: the story. And everyone around me was like I think

659
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 5: you're losing your mind lovingly. Yeah, yeah, but so I

660
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 5: wrote this play, but I've never written a play before.

661
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 5: And then finally that was in like twenty seventeen. Finally,

662
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty, I connected with Joe's Pub and they

663
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 5: connected me with a playwright see Julian Jimenez. Cool, and

664
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 5: we've been creating it since the first week of Lockdown,

665
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: like you did it, yeah, yeah, And we were able

666
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 5: to do it this past weekend at Joe's Pub with

667
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: four actors and it was just like a dream come true.

668
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 5: It was so cool.

669
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: That is cool. Do you have any plans to do

670
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: it some more?

671
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: Well, we hope that that was just the beginning. We're

672
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 5: kind of presenting it as like a work in progress,

673
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 5: and hopefully this is like a long process of us

674
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 5: making it a real thing.

675
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: You know. Great, Yeah, it's a really cool yeah, and

676
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: you're in it and you're seeing Yeah.

677
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 5: Me and the band were like, you know, we kind

678
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 5: of see ourselves as like the jazz cats in the alley.

679
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: You know.

680
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 5: My friend Lynn Legamari played a saxophone and it was

681
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,479
Speaker 5: just like so cool.

682
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 29: You know, it felt very New York. It's a very

683
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 29: like city story. So yeah, yeah, yeah that album too. Yeah, total, yeah,

684
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 29: this is super fun. I know you want to do

685
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 29: Drunken Angel, Yes for sure.

686
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. You grew up in the Bronx, but

687
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: you got country in your soul.

688
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 5: I really I don't know where, you know. Me and

689
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 5: my aunt and my dad, we used to drive to

690
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 5: Florida every summerh and that'll do it. Something really happened

691
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 5: in that, like mini van you know. Yeah. They would

692
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 5: make jokes about how like we'd get to waffle House

693
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, I'd take on like a

694
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: fake Southern accent and be like morning like to everybody,

695
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 5: just like you're a Puerto Rican from the Bronx, what

696
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 5: are you doing? Well?

697
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: Florida's pretty country, it is, yeah, when you get down there.

698
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: I grew up going to Florida in the summers.

699
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: Oh really. We would go to Sarasota.

700
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I've never been there. Oh yeah, because Dallas that's

701
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: where your friend how is my aunt lived in Gainesville?

702
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 5: Oh okay, I'd go there a lot. Lucinda's one of

703
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 5: my favorites though. I got to meet her and play

704
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 5: music with her one time. Really it was it was

705
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 5: so cool.

706
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: What did you guys play?

707
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 5: We played we were on a cruise, which is god yeah,

708
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 5: Sah Williams. We played, we played a Whitty Guthrie song.

709
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 5: We played another one of her favorite of her songs.

710
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 5: That's my favorite is people Talking one. Okay, so for

711
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 5: this should we trade? Yeah? Is that cool? I love that? Yeah?

712
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: I love her so much too.

713
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. And I was saying, gosh, I should have brought

714
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 5: you the book, her memoir. Oh yeah, so she you

715
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 5: just were reading it?

716
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: She didn't memore? Is it new?

717
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 5: It really?

718
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll get it on my kindle like a couple

719
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: of months old. Okay, I would love to read that.

720
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 5: Yeah cool, should we give it a go? Yeah?

721
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: So you recorded this song?

722
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? For that?

723
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 5: Blaze? Fully my god, that was so surreal. I just

724
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 5: got an email one day that was like, Hi, this

725
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 5: is Ethan Hawk. Just like cool. So someone's email got

726
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 5: hat because what are you talking about? And he's just like,

727
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: do you want to play Blaze Foley's sister. I'm just like,

728
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 5: I'm obsessed with Blaze, Folly, this is and Towns in

729
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 5: that whole world, you know, Like so it's just such

730
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 5: a dream. And then Chris Christofferson was my dad's. Now

731
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 5: every time I see him in a movie, I'm like,

732
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 5: there's my dad, So you were in them.

733
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: I didn't see the movie.

734
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 5: Oh it's really in the movie. Yeah, I mean to

735
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: see it.

736
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: And I can't watch movies anymore, Like I know, I

737
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: want it.

738
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 5: It's really heartbreaking too. This is just such a like

739
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 5: beautiful and tragic story. And we all know a drunken angel,

740
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 5: you know, somebody that you're just like, you're so lovely

741
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 5: and you're like haunted by this addiction. But yeah, so

742
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 5: I got to cover the song and like be a

743
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 5: part of the whole thing.

744
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: It was so cool. He said, makes good music choices. Yeah,

745
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: he loves music.

746
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was just so like wonderful to work

747
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 5: with and it was really great. And Blaze's wife, Sybil,

748
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 5: was like a part of the whole cool thing and

749
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 5: like wrote it with him. So it was just amazing

750
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 5: to like be in that world, you know. Yeah, because

751
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 5: I've been listening to the song forever and then being

752
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 5: and like once I found out who was about, I

753
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 5: just love the mythology of like I didn't know that.

754
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah I wrote about Blaze. Yeah, and you know

755
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 5: he had he had a thing about like duct taping

756
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 5: his shoes. He like kind of had a vow of

757
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: poverty is what they called it. He's like, I'm a

758
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 5: man of the people type thing, so he would like

759
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: not not get new shoes, and like, you know, just yeah,

760
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 5: very it's it's a very New Orleans vibe.

761
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you guys shoot at New Orleans.

762
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 5: We went to a place in western Louisiana.

763
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but okay, I want to watch it now.

764
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm only I'm in it very short amount in

765
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 5: the middle, but special thing is so gorgeous.

766
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: And Chris, oh my god, yeah, the best.

767
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: Why dude, three.

768
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: Sun came up? It was another day when.

769
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 12: The sun went down, you were blown away.

770
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 13: Why'n't you let go of your guitar?

771
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 14: Why did you ever let.

772
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: It go that far?

773
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 13: Drunken Angel.

774
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 6: Could add on it, the.

775
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 30: Long smooth neck, let your head, remember every bread fingers

776
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 30: touching it, shiny stream, but you let go of everything.

777
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 13: Drunken Angel, drunk it Angel.

778
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 31: You're on the other side. Drunk it Angel, You're on

779
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 31: the other side.

780
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 32: Followers would claim me hang around just to meet you.

781
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 32: Some through loses at your feet, watched you pass out

782
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 32: on the street.

783
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 13: Drunk in Angel. Feed you and.

784
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 32: Pay off oil nets, kiss you, bawn, taste you, sweat,

785
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 32: ride about your soul your guts, criticize you, and wish

786
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 32: you like Drunken Angel.

787
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 13: Drugging Angel.

788
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 14: You're on the other side.

789
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 13: Drugging Angel.

790
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 33: You're on the other side, some kind of savior, singing

791
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 33: the blues. Derelict in your duct tape shoes, your orphan

792
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 33: clothes and your long dark.

793
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 13: Hair, looking like you didn't care. Drunken Angel.

794
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 30: Blessed out from the hole in your heart, over the strings.

795
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 26: Of your guitar, the worn out places in the wood,

796
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 26: the ones that made you feel so good.

797
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 34: Drunken Angel. Drunking Angel, You're on the other side. Drunking Angel.

798
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: You're on the other side.

799
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: Son came up.

800
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 9: It was another day when the sun went down.

801
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 6: You were blown away. Why'd you let go out of

802
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 6: your guitar? Why'd you ever let it go that far?

803
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 13: Drunken Angel, Dunking Angel.

804
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 5: Yay, yay, oh my god, thank you so much for

805
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: having me awesome. Yeah, thanks for doing this. Of course, I'll.

806
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: Tell you very soon.

807
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: I don't want to say goodbye, I.

808
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: Know me neither, Like get a room at the hotel. Well,

809
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: we'll hang okay good Yeah cool. Now now that we know, yeah, totally,

810
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: we're good match.

811
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 5: We can meet friends. Yeah and reson.

812
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, thanks for listening to the show.

813
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 6: That was so fun. That was so great.

814
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: I wish we had time for so many more songs.

815
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll be more. I feel like, well, we'll meet

816
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: down the road and do some more. If you're wondering

817
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: about the what songs we did do today, we did

818
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: a song from their twenty twenty two album Life on

819
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: Earth called Rhododendron, another one from that album called Life

820
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: on Earth, and Saga all so from that album. We

821
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: did a song from the album The Navigator from twenty

822
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: seventeen called Living in the City, and then we did

823
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: the Lucinda Williams song called Drunken Angel. Lucinda's version was

824
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: from a nineteen ninety eight album Car Wheels on a

825
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: Gravel Road, and Alinda also has a recorded version of

826
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: the song from the Blaze Foley movie called Blaze. This

827
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: episode was recorded by Matt Marinelli, mixed by Jamie Landry,

828
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: edited by Sarah Oda, Additional editing and mixing by Matthew Vesquez.

829
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: Artwork by Eliza Frye Photography by Shervin Lenez, Produced by

830
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: Me and Sarah Oda. Babysitting by Steve Angus,