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Speaker 2: Like, what's happening all me? How you doing big man

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Speaker 2: like a villain. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. When I was like coming up in radio,

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Speaker 1: some of the first events I would work in Phoenix

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Speaker 2: The low Rider shows. Okay, yeah, yeah, the Lowrider shows

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at the at the at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum

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Speaker 1: in the parking lot, and y'all had the fucking High

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Speaker 1: selling all kinds of shit.

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Speaker 2: Oh, twenty thirty racks, a tent Magan, you know what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was crazy, like uh and then

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Speaker 2: Over slow Load. Yeah, I remember another one.

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Speaker 1: But these folks always was snitch on me.

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Speaker 1: mostly oldies in Chicago rapp and I was selling like everything.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you guys are like kind of like man,

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Speaker 1: high Power Records. You guys had a I mean fucking

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Speaker 1: that's like kind of ground zero for a lot of

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Speaker 1: this shit. It's happening right now.

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Speaker 2: If you talk about independent though, that was real independent shit,

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Speaker 2: you know, like people like, oh I'm independent. That was

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Speaker 1: What year was the origin of High Power?

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Speaker 2: Early two thousands? Like two thousands, so I know, I

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Speaker 2: came out of jail like ninety eight, ninety nine, can

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Speaker 2: I went to Odm's studio a Lot.

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Speaker 1: Of Shit a brown Yeah, so that was one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was one of my first breakthroughs to

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Speaker 2: And once I got my music out, early two thousands

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Speaker 1: You know, So how many artists at a like would

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Speaker 2: I want to Yeah, there's so much shit. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: Like random ship where I'd be like high power records. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: our times. It was just you have to be on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because you guys are part of a while

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Speaker 1: Bone or Lazy Bone signed to High Power Records because

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Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, we were just dropping look at it.

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Speaker 2: But look, you gotta understand those days. I was a

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Speaker 2: Everything that I was doing was basically charting, so I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it would be like you would have like

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Speaker 1: but you would think, like damn liked did these fools

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Speaker 2: Because I wasn't a real label, a real label, and

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Speaker 2: Whatever I make of this is me move forward exactly

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Speaker 2: Though, man, I mean we were just yeah, we were kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys had a whole like roster, Yeah, building

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Speaker 2: We did a lot of I mean, Dan, there were

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Speaker 2: tracks that are for the ladies, but Gangster Wise, you know,

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Speaker 2: and that shit would sell like half a million records.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, what the hell? Right?

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Speaker 2: So it was just random even shit that would that's going.

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Speaker 2: It was just the concept of everybody was on that movement,

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Speaker 2: so there was not no rat. Everybody's numbers was just

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, because I know you

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Speaker 1: got I mean, did you get you guys? I mean Criminal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Criminal was one of the big guys. So Criminal

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Speaker 2: He basically, did you guys ever work with Night Out? No?

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Speaker 1: I just remember. I just remember like, yeah, you guys,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, have you been back?

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Speaker 2: You know in the hood. You know, I was known

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was like Lightership, the Brown Kid, Frost

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Speaker 2: And I looked at them like, yo, signed me.

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Speaker 2: A lot of ODM messed up. He could have been.

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Speaker 1: He had a nice radio career, but man, he would

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Speaker 1: have came up all man. But he signed everybody back.

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Speaker 2: I will say I was telling sign me. I was

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Speaker 2: telling anyone to sign me. But you know those you

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Speaker 1: So once you hit like peak success as an artist,

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Speaker 1: and obviously there are bigger situations that are paying attention

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Speaker 1: like record deals on the table? Oh oh, Ship Dog

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Speaker 2: Crazy deals, A lot of deals from big artists that

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Speaker 2: do you and the team Cotch Records, Alan Grumble. There

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Speaker 2: Look at I was playing on Kiss FM and I

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Speaker 2: the email to you? And I was like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, but I'm like I don't even do this,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm just going with the flow, acting like

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Speaker 1: Did you guys ever have like it? Because it's it's

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Speaker 1: so funny because I'm from Phoenix, right, Yeah, So for us,

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Speaker 1: like MC magical was that motherfucker you know, and shout

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Speaker 1: out to Magic and he's still doing hundreds of shows

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Speaker 1: a year killing it. But you guys were existing in

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Speaker 2: No? And those times no, Actually I looked out for Magic.

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Speaker 2: I did records with him, you know.

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Speaker 2: I even put together some shows plays for him. So

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Speaker 2: So there was never no rivalry back then. I feel

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously they're trying to keep a certain image

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Speaker 2: I'm too gangster. I don't know. But Magic's always showed

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Speaker 2: love for sure. It's just maybe people behind it, you

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Speaker 1: When when Because you guys are doing your thing and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, back then, so I was I had a

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Speaker 2: Joe's was a lady named John John Lopez Joe. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I remember Rob was off his old deal whatever happened,

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Speaker 2: and then I kind of like they're like what like

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Speaker 2: even nobody wanted to deal with Rob or me because

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Speaker 2: they signed Rob and then they got I was in

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Speaker 2: the studio with fingers. They got him in the studio

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Speaker 2: with fingers, and there are record label that's actually kind

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Speaker 2: of legit. So they knew how to work radio, I

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Speaker 1: For sure, you guys, you guys are like the fucking

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, and Rob was kind of like before me,

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Speaker 2: so he was always that guy that everybody was like,

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Speaker 2: Rob Rober sure it was about to fall off, and

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Speaker 2: boom he signed him and then next you know, they

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Speaker 2: worked radio. They went straight to the campaigns. They hit

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Speaker 2: it hard, and I was like, damn, they're you know,

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Speaker 2: like same guys that I'm working with, Michael Whitett or

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Speaker 2: whoever was around. They were like, yeah, this guy knew

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Speaker 2: guy that were I was like, he's not new, he's

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Speaker 2: been around, Yeah for sure, But the door start opening

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Speaker 1: Saying, not for sure, because it was like he had

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Speaker 1: summer nights. Yeah, there was like the NB Righters, she

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Speaker 1: getting played and then yeah, yeah, it was crazy, especially

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Speaker 1: how important was it like having like a show back

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Speaker 1: kind of helping break you guys, even if it was

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00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,680
Speaker 1: like yeah on the weekend, Like.

434
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I had no problem with it. I was

435
00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 2: cool with it. Uh. Some people disagreed with it, disagreed

436
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,640
Speaker 2: with the radio show, yeah, because some people like saying

437
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 2: it was and was only beneficial for certain artists. And

438
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,639
Speaker 2: I'll tell you even me, I wasn't played on it

439
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 2: at the beginning, but by so much you know, success

440
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 2: that I was doing by myself, I eventually got in rotation,

441
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 2: but definitely was a positive for a lot of artists

442
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 2: that are coming up. So technically it helped a lot

443
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 2: of people. Some people, I hear people complain, but to me,

444
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 2: it was no, it was just it was opening the

445
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 2: doors might have been played in Kansas and they might

446
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: have not known.

447
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: You know, what are your thoughts because I've obviously you know,

448
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,159
Speaker 1: I'm cool with the guy. I'm cool bo, so I'm

449
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 1: cool to a lot of dudes who are in the space.

450
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 1: But I feel like there's so much like turmoil within

451
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 1: the Chicono wrap space in LA in terms of just

452
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 1: people beef and button heads. Is that something that's always happened.

453
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess you know, everybody wants to be the man.

454
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 2: Everyone's trying to do the thing. So at the end

455
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 2: of the day, it's gonna come. You know what I'm saying,

456
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna come. It's I see it like right now,

457
00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 2: I see so much internet like pages about all these

458
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 2: rappers beefing with each other. You know, to me, like

459
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: all the ones who've been around there, they know it's

460
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,919
Speaker 2: got to be on the streets. So if anything's on there,

461
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's not a good look because at the

462
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 2: end of the day, people will get divided and that

463
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: kills the numbers. You know what I'm saying. I've seen

464
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 2: it in our time in the rap game, where it

465
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 2: was about to be a big movement, right, it was

466
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: about to blow up, and then just divisions start happening,

467
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 2: boom boom. So next you know, even with the radio,

468
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: radio is playing my records and then maybe some haters

469
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 2: calling in, hey don't play that shit, play this shit.

470
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: They're like, we don't know what's going on. So you're

471
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 2: scaring the outside of you know what I'm saying, And

472
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: they're getting scared, like what's up with you know, like

473
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 2: people are saying they're threatening to call the radio station.

474
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: So it got kind of the internet. Well I don't

475
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: want the internet, but the little cheese May and all

476
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 2: that drama start hitting right and it just probably crushed everyone.

477
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: Look at Lefty, he's doing good right now. I see

478
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 2: so many people just hating on him, you know what

479
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's just part of the nature of

480
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: the game, like I think.

481
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I look at the left thing like

482
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 1: people people think left he's like an unconventional guy, and

483
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: he is because he's very very He's a character, you know.

484
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Like it's like

485
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: he's working man like, like, why wouldn't you want a

486
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: champion him if he's.

487
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: You want to go with anyone who's working.

488
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, like you said, he's working his ass off,

489
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: dude is working his Yeah.

490
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: I've been just doing I don't even do podcasts, never

491
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: did them, but I just started doing podcasts now, and

492
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, dam this is our work. It's like a job.

493
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: You got to go and show up type podcast.

494
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: I saw you and left Het in baker'shield.

495
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Baker Fiel we met. He sent me messages

496
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: back in the days like hey, I want to get

497
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: signed blah blah blah. But I was not in the

498
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: space of signing anyone at that time. And he showed

499
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: love as a youngster in the game the right way.

500
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: So I give him his credit to, you know, respecting.

501
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: Same with a lot of different other artists that came

502
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: out of like Pestle and all these guys. Sure they respect.

503
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: I did even a record with Pestl, you know what

504
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So when the youngsters show respect to that's respect,

505
00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

506
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: So, did you have the issue the same issue that

507
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: he's having in terms of just like not having not

508
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: being able to do shows past a certain point in

509
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: Northern California because just as the politics.

510
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: I think you can. I think at the end of

511
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: the day, for shows you got, someone's got a book

512
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: you right, So I mean, I'm sure if someone booked

513
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: him and paid him a ticket, he.

514
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: Probably was show when you were coming up.

515
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: I did Modesto, I just stocked in, I did Sacramento.

516
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: I did stuff for the radio stations up there, and

517
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: I you know, like in the back of my head,

518
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: I knew, like you know, and maybe they don't know

519
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: what's yet, But I'm coming here and there was never

520
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: drama but internet. But yeah, his food was over here.

521
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: You know, I see little hating going on whatever, blah

522
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: blah blah. But you know we were coming with respect

523
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: if anyone. You know, it is what it is in

524
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: any situation. And then up there there's a lot of

525
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 2: fans too who support and so that's what I'm worried about,

526
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: like the fans getting into with each other, you know

527
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I mean, but yeah, it's it definitely.

528
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: It's a show wise, it's a very then line to

529
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: do events up there because no promoters are gonna want

530
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: to do too much. But they might play the radio

531
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: and there might be a lot of love there because

532
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: I pull up to the malls out there and I'm like, yo,

533
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, they know they recognize me faster up

534
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: here then down there because they're more fascinated.

535
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm Sayingeah, I mean, it's I think

536
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: that's the one thing. As I was telling that to Lefty,

537
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: I was like, man, like, if you go on tour

538
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: with YG, you're gonna have to go perform in Oakland. Yeah,

539
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to and if you want to be

540
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: like a superstar for real, Like at a certain point

541
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: in time, it's like it just sucks to always see that.

542
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: But I feel like he's got enough fans or.

543
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: Like somebody, like the politics always kind of split in

544
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: the state in half with a lot of rappers where

545
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, like and I talked to somebody what's

546
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: his name? Baldacci has said that, like even there's like

547
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: a semi truce in prison right now, and you would

548
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: think some of that would like trans.

549
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: But the streets is different. Obviously, there's always gonna be

550
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: some bad blood, you know what I'm saying. So everyone's

551
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: gonna have bad blood. Whoever has bad blood. So you

552
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: can have problems out here too, for sure. So I

553
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: feel like, look, you can go up there and do

554
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: a show and they could be proms just as much

555
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: as it could be proems down here, because there's a

556
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: lot of supporters out there. You gotta understand, there's a

557
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 2: lot of people that down with the LA stuff up

558
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: there too.

559
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: That's what you said. It's like, if you get fans

560
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: in both sides in the same place, that could be

561
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: fucking a problem.

562
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at my you know, I

563
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: don't know, I haven't checked the Spotify numbers whatever, but

564
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: pay area is always top three, you know what I'm saying.

565
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: Still, how did you end up leaking with Neon the streamer?

566
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Neon? So I ran him a couple of times.

567
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: Lollo gone brazy from Arizona, so I know his manager's

568
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: shadow shadow. He used to be high powered supporter back

569
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: in the days, just the homies up from the airport.

570
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: You know, He's one of those guys that was always

571
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 2: a genuine dude. And uh, I guess he picked up

572
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: Lollo and did his management. So we went to Arizona,

573
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: we networked. He's with Neon. I was with Neon and

574
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: other people I know, like Sneakle and different people that

575
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: knew Neon. So there was a little connection here and there.

576
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: And then once we went to that thing in Arizona,

577
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: like the wedding that have you seen that? Neil was

578
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: like man, I like you, man, let's do something. I

579
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, let's get it cracking.

580
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: Have you noticed like the spike and like attention because

581
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: he's he's been streaming crazy.

582
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: A lot of people seeing that. You're right, I mean,

583
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: definitely a lot of people got. You know, we're hitting

584
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: me up on that lot is those clip Those clippings

585
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: were crazy, you know, and the most clip farming. Yeah,

586
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: the most dangerous man in America with Neon all kinds

587
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: of crazy shit. Yeah, so that was cool. Yeah, I

588
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: have fun with him. Watched up man.

589
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah he seems like a nice kid. Are you back

590
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: to wanting to sign artists again?

591
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to create what I did

592
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: back in the days. So that's why this year to

593
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, I'm back on the music. So I

594
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: just dropped the single right now. This week. I got

595
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: records with Mazie coming out. I got, I got a

596
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: lot of records coming out, you know what I'm saying.

597
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: So that's the record that you you did a previous

598
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: with with Neon and the exact Yeah.

599
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just barely dropped that right now. So

600
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: basically coming back to what I did before. And that's

601
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: why I'm on these podcast That's what I'm on, you know,

602
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: Like I'm here to just grind and bring it back,

603
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: bring the hunger back. So like people are like, yo, Capona,

604
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 2: I've been getting dms the last year or two, Like

605
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: why don't you do some music. Why don't you like

606
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm just getting a lot of that slack from the fans.

607
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm doing shows, I'm cool, I'm getting my bread,

608
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: I'm doing shows, I'm getting love. But like, where's the

609
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: new music. That's the biggest question saying where's the new music?

610
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 2: So I was like, you know what, I'm like, yo,

611
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: I do drop music here and there, but I'm not

612
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: really pushing the music. You feel me, I'm just doing

613
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: it for fun. So I'm like this year, I'm gonna

614
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: push the music. I'm come in with the music and

615
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm we'll bring it back like I did. Once I

616
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: get to my powerful platform, which I still do, numbers

617
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: as big as any of the top guys past so Lefty,

618
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: my numbers are still up there. But once I get

619
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 2: back to her, I want to get back radio, back

620
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: to whatever, take it to the next level. That's when

621
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: I could say, hey, maybe I could sign people. But

622
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: right now it's like for what, Yeah, you know, it's

623
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: a lot of work. You know.

624
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: The last time I saw you was in Vegas with OT.

625
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I was up there.

626
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got a record with OT said you

627
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: got say anything with OT coming?

628
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got that's probably might be my second single

629
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: or third single. When I come with ot.

630
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Fire, it's gonna be it's gonna be a hitter. Yeah,

631
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: ot be. He'd be fighting, he's like training and ship.

632
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like for you, yeah, yeah, I was like,

633
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: I want to have a little challenge with you. When

634
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: I seen I was like, this guy, hold on around.

635
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: So before your come up, there was like like the

636
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: South Park Mexican era before that, which also was like

637
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: he was getting like Wiggy Wiggy was getting played on

638
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: the radio and ship where I obviously all all of

639
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: the you know, he deserves to be in jail. Yeah,

640
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: let's be yeah, you know, like he's it is what

641
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: it is, he's a PDF. But we're like, were you

642
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: guys before obviously you know what ended up happening him

643
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: getting incarcerated. I mean, Dope House Records was very influential, definitely.

644
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: They were pretty known in Texas and I've seen that

645
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: when we're coming up, I would hear Dope Pase Records.

646
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: But when I came up, maybe a year I was

647
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: in the game, he might have been around.

648
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: But that's why I was curious.

649
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm curious if you were influencing like he was. I

650
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: didn't see nothing, just he was huge. Yeah. When I

651
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: was creating our movement out here, people were like, hey,

652
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: there's a movement in Texas called Dope House yep. So

653
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, you got to give respect

654
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: to the movement. So I was like, okay, they got

655
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: something cracking. And then Little Flip was doing it. So

656
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: then I started going to Texas and I seen what

657
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: they were doing the same thing we were doing in

658
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 2: the West Coast, you know, the version I was in

659
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: the Dallas swamis. I seen all the with the big

660
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: grand pre swaman. You know, there are all these places

661
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: and their posters were there, just like how we were

662
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: in La streets.

663
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: So a lot of people don't know Baby Bash was

664
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: signed exact Dope Houses Baby Beach yep.

665
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: So we came over there and start putting our ship

666
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: up and representing, and you know, over there, Texas was

667
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: like feeling. They're like, yeah, we loving this music. And

668
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about his charges. I don't think

669
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: anyone did. I don't think anyone, you know, you would

670
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: hear rumors he got done dirty whatever, so you know,

671
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: didn't pay.

672
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: I think it's I think his bail just got denied. Yeah, yeah,

673
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he's getting out. I think they were

674
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: expecting him to get out. What do you think about

675
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: a guy like mexicanot who's doing his own thing, obviously,

676
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: and I think he's like he could rap with the

677
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: best of.

678
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: Him, Like yeah, I mean you look at it at

679
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: the end of the day, Yeah, he's he's definitely making

680
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: waves doing shows. He's cracking. He's with I think a

681
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: label to Universal Right or something like that.

682
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: He's with Cinematic or I'm sorry, good Talk through interscope.

683
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: So whoever they are, man, they're doing a good job.

684
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: They're putting a lot of bags behind him, They're working it,

685
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: they're doing what they can do. And that's what, at

686
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: the end of the day makes the artists blow up.

687
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: And he's blown up because he's got the right team,

688
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: right facility. And I did a show with this guy

689
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: before and before he even got signed, and I don't

690
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: know how he did it, but in his crowd he

691
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: had a lot of people wearing his shirt. And when

692
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: after I was done, I chatted with some people. Hey

693
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm his neighbor, Hey I'm his uncle, Like I'm like like,

694
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: so he had people pulling up he had a lot

695
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: of like teamwork to create what he created, and he's

696
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: got a great team behind him. So yeah, so props

697
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: to him for doing this thing like that for sure.

698
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: Now he's killing him. D Baby's killing it.

699
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: Uh. I've seen d be a bit of club. We're

700
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: supposed to work and stuff. So I've seen about Houston

701
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: Sekaya Club, you know the boys over there.

702
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so you got obviously isn't an album

703
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: coming out.

704
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so right now, I got a little EP I'm

705
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: on to drop probably before March or April or somewhere

706
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: in that time, and then I'm just gonna constantly just

707
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: drop records. So at least three to five singles at

708
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 2: least this year of records of real records, and then

709
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: just regular songs, twenty thirty songs.

710
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: You know, has it been because you I feel like

711
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: you've had like spurts or I'd be like, oh shit,

712
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: there's a new music video from Caponi.

713
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: That yeah, I was doing spurts shit kind of yeah.

714
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'd be like, oh shit, this was working

715
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: with Molly Mall. You know, you know that song is out,

716
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but do you feel like you're starting like

717
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: because when you like you you had such a level

718
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: of success getting it out the trunk, and then the

719
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: new world is like you said, now I'm doing podcasts,

720
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: now stepping out and you feel like you've you've adjusted

721
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: well to figuring out like the new.

722
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely business model. I know I know what the

723
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: new business model is. That's why I'm out here putting

724
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 2: in the work. What you gotta do, get on the camera.

725
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm from the old school where we don't like to

726
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: talk on cameras, you know. So I was embedded with

727
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: this since a kid. So even by doing rap music

728
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: that was a little rough for me. That's why I

729
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: chose to do a lot of love songs, right because

730
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna rap about street shit. If you listen

731
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: to my music, people think all he's getting but moll

732
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: my hits are love songs, radio song.

733
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: If people don't understand, like the correlation between Chicano rap

734
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: and oldies is like.

735
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: This exactly like yeah, so, and to me, I was like,

736
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna do this music like in the hood,

737
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna rap about hood shit. But if I'm putting

738
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 2: this on a CD, I'm not gonna talk about Hey,

739
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: I got guns i'na dump on you. That was not

740
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: my model of rap because I really was from the streets,

741
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm gonna say this. I've seen

742
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: people getting diet. I've seen a lot of shit go

743
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: down as a child. I mean, I got raided four

744
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: or five times, crazy tied up my mom and cuffs

745
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: my mom. You know, I've seen it all, you know.

746
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: So I've seen shootouts in front of my house, bullet holes.

747
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: So I've been through the trenches as a youngster, as

748
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: a well on the streets. So when I came to

749
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: the music game, I looked at this as like a job.

750
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: This is something definitely, I'm not gonna sell out. I'm

751
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: gonna keep it real, but I'm not gonna be here

752
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: going crazy on raps and promoting negativity and shit like that.

753
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: If other artists that I signed do that, that's on them.

754
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm just trying to help

755
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: you out, give you some advice, put some radio songs on,

756
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: talk about But if they still have to keep it

757
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: off their chests, if they feel like they haven't, they're

758
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: not the man yet. I get it. You know, people

759
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: usually do shit when they don't. They don't they still

760
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: need it off their chests. I figured I don't need

761
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: it off the chest.

762
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: You had said that shrig Knight had interest in signing you.

763
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: What era of death was That was early two thousand

764
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: and six seven like that, So this.

765
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Is probably around the time like there was like the

766
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: left eye.

767
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm trying to remember when, but I know

768
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: he was out and we connected and he came to

769
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: as Vigy. He came to He used to come to

770
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: our little apartment studio every day, chilling here, like you know,

771
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do, game plan it. We

772
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: met with him and I think I told the story

773
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: on vlad Ones like we met with him at a

774
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: hotel might have been the Beverly Hotel. And then and

775
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: then he was like, yo, we need to represent like

776
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: you know, he Homie was pumping it like you know,

777
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: like it's just like homies doing the hood pump you up.

778
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: So he's like, we need to represent the West. That

779
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: he was like, the essays are the he was speaking facts.

780
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: The essays our biggest minority group here, they haven't gone through. Shine.

781
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: You're you're the top dog of this. We gotta get

782
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: you you like you know, like, pump you up, Pop,

783
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: you know, pop did it? Like we got woo, So like,

784
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: what's goed? Then we pulled up to a studio session

785
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: where little Wayne was at you know, crazy, and then

786
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: he's like yeah, little ways and we gotta let him

787
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: know this is our ship, you know. So we're like

788
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: I was with four or five homie. We're turned up,

789
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: you know. So we're like, boom, pull up their security.

790
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: We're like, hey, we need Wayne outside, you know. So

791
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 2: we're thinking we're gonna talk to Wayne about hey, you

792
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: need to represent the West with us. But as soon

793
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: as Wayne finally secure is like, look, we don't want

794
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: no problems. Wayne will talk to Shug because that was

795
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: our message to talk to Shug. So then Shug comes

796
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: and we're like, okay, let's go talk to Wayne. She

797
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: was like you guys, chill in the waiting room, you

798
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like, So, after we did that,

799
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: then he went in. There was waiting squaring off with

800
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: the security looking at us, We're looking at them whatever.

801
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: Ten twenty minutes comes out, he comes out, ah, right,

802
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: my geez, next week we'll link up. I'm like, what

803
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: did we just do? You know what I'm saying we

804
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: were like.

805
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: A torpedo for his you use this as your bullies exactly.

806
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. So then shit started getting weird, but he was

807
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: still fucking with us. So I get it, and maybe

808
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: he had good intentions, but it didn't seem like yo,

809
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: like we ain't no suckers. I mean, you know, like

810
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we did what we

811
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: did to get Wayne to discuss what we discussed, and

812
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 2: then there was a couple of tests that like we

813
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: gave Sugar night to do and he was like, yeah,

814
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: I'm down, I'm down. It was one of the Phoenix

815
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: car shows. I told him, hey, you pull up to Phoenix,

816
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: get on the mic car show the new Death Throat,

817
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: you know, like we had a whole and then that

818
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: show goes like street going to be able to put

819
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: it on DVD, and he was like, all right, give

820
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: my flight, I'm down, let's do it. And then all said, hey,

821
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: this next show, next show. So it's like is he

822
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: really trying to do it or not? And he's like Okay.

823
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: Then he sat back and just anybody got a back

824
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: from me, Let's get an investor. So I get it.

825
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: Those days, we didn't know how we thought he had

826
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: the money, but he probably didn't have the money, you know,

827
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: you know.

828
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: Back in the day. I don't know if it was

829
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: your guys in the label, but I remember being at

830
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: the car show and there was like a really hot

831
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: chkin of rapper who's like ass was out all the time.

832
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Uh rapper.

833
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she was a rapper.

834
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: It was like a pass out.

835
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: I feel like, like I remember her her album cover and

836
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: I just been like, damn.

837
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: Remember there's like Dazza and all these people.

838
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about maybe, but there y'all had the

839
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: fucking models unlocked all that.

840
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 2: Man, this those crazy story ship back then.

841
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: If only fans just popping back then, they probably would

842
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: have been a high power only fans.

843
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: Damn, you ain't lying ship anyway.

844
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: All right, So EP's on the way. New song is out.

845
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, new song is o't breaking down, mister Capony, break

846
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: it down. We're gonna push radio to it. We're gonna

847
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: do it the right way and hopefully in a month

848
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: or just start popping up on some stations.

849
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: And now it's dope to see you know. I mean,

850
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was dope to see you on the

851
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: Neon because that's kind of like taking too really far

852
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: worlds and put them together.

853
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, definitely, And you know, actually something we

854
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: got messages from labels hitting us up after that Neon thing.

855
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: For sure like that. But I do you just you

856
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: just gotta go to these meetings and I'm like, listen.

857
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to answer your emails.

858
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, let the record get hot, get to the top

859
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: right hopefully twenty ten, whatever, and then we'll we'll discuss

860
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: what we can do. But right now talking about it,

861
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Speaker 2: I'm an artist that knows what's up or been around.

862
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: There's no deal that I know that's gonna come to me.

863
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: That's gonna be like wow, yeah for sure. Yeah, you've

864
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Speaker 1: been there, you've done that. There it is man, Well,

865
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: I appreciate you pulling out there for show. Homeboy, my guy,

866
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Speaker 1: the Legend, the Pony, both