Speaker 1: M Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is Wes Hodkowits were
Speaker 1: coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field
Speaker 1: and West. It's finally here, the day we've been waiting
Speaker 1: for talking about the Packers new coaches on the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy making all the announcements official a little earlier
Speaker 1: this week, so it's time to dive into some of
Speaker 1: the details here. And I want to start with defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator Mike Patton because he's probably, you know, as far
Speaker 1: as his level of position, a more unfamiliar face to
Speaker 1: h two Packers fans and Um. He made quite a
Speaker 1: first impression in his opening news conference. I thought Um
Speaker 1: showed a little bit of sense of humor, but also
Speaker 1: showed that he is very much a no nonsense football guy.
Speaker 1: And I think this is going to be an interesting
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for pack for the Packers and for Packers
Speaker 1: fans to get to know. Yeah, Mike, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have months, weeks, all this time ahead between this day
Speaker 1: and the start of training camp to start the regular
Speaker 1: season to talk about his scheme, but I want to
Speaker 1: start off with Mark Mike Petton the individual, and let's
Speaker 1: let's be honest here, Mike, he has big shoes to fill.
Speaker 1: From a media obligation standpoint, dom Caper's is one of
Speaker 1: the best there is in the business in terms of
Speaker 1: dealing with on a day in and day out basis.
Speaker 1: My good friend Darren Gant, who covered him during his
Speaker 1: time with the Carolina Panthers as the head coach. Darren
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything nice about anybody. He loves dom Capers
Speaker 1: because he's just a true gentleman. So from that perspective,
Speaker 1: I think there actually was some big shoes for him
Speaker 1: for Mike Petton to walk into that auditorium and to
Speaker 1: become the new face of the defense, and I thought
Speaker 1: he hit it absolutely out of the park. You had
Speaker 1: so a great comment about this afterwards too, and we
Speaker 1: were talking. He managed to hit on all the big points,
Speaker 1: the big questions that you knew that were coming, complicated scheme,
Speaker 1: you know, revigorating the defense, and he was able to
Speaker 1: provide answers without making them sound like something you get
Speaker 1: off a stock quote sheet. Yeah. Uh. He was very personable.
Speaker 1: There's a human aspect to him and I just thought
Speaker 1: over those fifteen minutes, I said this an insider inbox
Speaker 1: on on Thursday. I just felt he won the press
Speaker 1: conference because he gave you an idea of who he
Speaker 1: is as an individual, where he comes from. And also,
Speaker 1: I think, based on just hearing him talk for fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: a good idea of why players have gravitated towards him.
Speaker 1: And he's been successful in this league. Yeah, he's certainly
Speaker 1: been plenty successful. He's had a handful of top five defenses,
Speaker 1: coaching both the New York Jets and the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: He was obviously the head coach for the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: for a couple of years in a really difficult situation
Speaker 1: with the whole Johnny Menzel thing and a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that he had to deal with. There wasn't really
Speaker 1: put in a position to succeed, just be honest, um,
Speaker 1: but took a couple of years off. Was involved in
Speaker 1: kind of a consulting gig for Seahawks coach Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: last year, kind of working from home but staying in
Speaker 1: touch with NFL film and evaluating players and and evaluating
Speaker 1: teams and schemes, and decided to to jump back into
Speaker 1: the fray here, and I know I expected him to
Speaker 1: say the whole three four or four three thing really
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I saw that one coming, and I think
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense, especially in this day
Speaker 1: and age in the NFL. What really impressed me about
Speaker 1: what he talked about with his scheme that I think
Speaker 1: is going to be very interesting to watch going forward
Speaker 1: and how it manifests itself on the field, as he
Speaker 1: talked about wanting to be multiple, to look complicated to
Speaker 1: an offense, but to not be complicated for his players
Speaker 1: on defense. And I know that's a it's a fancy line,
Speaker 1: it sounds good. I'm sure it's easier said than done,
Speaker 1: but I'm really interested to see exactly how that takes shape.
Speaker 1: Lot of it is the pre snap is what it
Speaker 1: comes back to Mike McCarthy when he addressed the media
Speaker 1: as well on Wednesday, saying they need to start winning
Speaker 1: the pre snap battle. That was an area that really
Speaker 1: did hamper the Packers. I agree with that in two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, now you get Mike pett in here.
Speaker 1: It's about presenting different looks pre snap, but also not
Speaker 1: overwhelming your players either, you know, trying to make sure
Speaker 1: that the quarterback doesn't have everything figured out by the
Speaker 1: time he snaps the ball, that things are going to
Speaker 1: surprise him and he and you know, Petton hit it.
Speaker 1: You know he faced it, that question right on, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure he knew it was comic in terms of
Speaker 1: the complicatedness of the scheme. I think that became more
Speaker 1: of a narrative after the time in Cleveland than even
Speaker 1: it was before that when he was with the New
Speaker 1: York Jets. Even going back to Rex Ryan's defense with
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and understanding exactly what you're trying to
Speaker 1: accomplish as a unit. I mean, you could just sense
Speaker 1: the excitement he has when he looks at this roster.
Speaker 1: He said, the cupboard is not bear. From a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 1: you have veterans Clay Matthews, one of them most versatile
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the NFL. He looks forward to taking
Speaker 1: those talent, taking that those players and finding a way
Speaker 1: to make it work within his scheme. And just one
Speaker 1: other further point, Mike, when he did say the four
Speaker 1: three three four debate, I think the Holly Louis heard
Speaker 1: from the back was me because this is a question
Speaker 1: that I've said this is a question we get constantly
Speaker 1: an insider in box, Well, the Packers be better off
Speaker 1: if they go to a four three. Petton said, they're
Speaker 1: playing base defense ten twelve snaps a game. It's not
Speaker 1: a league where you're playing seven hundred defensive snaps anymore
Speaker 1: out of your base defense. It's it's a sub package league.
Speaker 1: And in this new environment after the most recent CBA,
Speaker 1: with the restrictions you have, I think Petton has proved
Speaker 1: that his scheme can succeed in this environment, and it's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Mike McCarthy brought him in
Speaker 1: as a new defensive coordinator. And one quick point too
Speaker 1: before we go to a break, when he talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, you have your outside linebackers, you can sort
Speaker 1: of have that three four concept, but then you can
Speaker 1: take one of them, put his hand in the dirt
Speaker 1: and sort of then you have more of a four three.
Speaker 1: Look to me, that has Nick Perry written all over it.
Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's he's the guy. He's he's big.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got that big lower body. He can
Speaker 1: play defensive end. He can also play stand up outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: He's done it. I really think and obviously Nick Perry
Speaker 1: needs to stay healthy. We all know about that. I
Speaker 1: think Nick Perry might be one of the guys that
Speaker 1: Mike Petton is most excited about in this defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a great point, Mike, because there is a lot
Speaker 1: of guys in this defense with a hybrid mentality that
Speaker 1: they have, whether it's defensive backs, whether it's linebackers, guys
Speaker 1: that can fit different types of schemes and trying to
Speaker 1: maximize their ability. You're absolutely right, Perry has to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: But that's one of the reasons why they did extend
Speaker 1: him last year coming off that eleven sex season, and
Speaker 1: no doubt with that, we'll throw it to a break
Speaker 1: back with more and Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted, Mike Spofford in this chair, Wes
Speaker 1: Hodkowitz and that one and west shifting gears to the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator position. As unfamiliar as Mike Petton is to
Speaker 1: Packers fans, Joe Philbin a very familiar face, obviously returning
Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator. He was in that position for five
Speaker 1: seasons from two thousand and seven to two thousand eleven.
Speaker 1: Began actually coaching with the Packers on the offensive line
Speaker 1: in two thousand three, before Mike McCarthy even arrived during
Speaker 1: the Mike Sherman era. And um, you know, certainly a
Speaker 1: guy he's happy to be back in Green Bay. You
Speaker 1: could tell Mike McCarthy is very happy to have Joe
Speaker 1: Philbin back after his four years as a head coach
Speaker 1: in Miami and then a couple of years as an
Speaker 1: associate head coach and offensive line coach. Kind of getting
Speaker 1: back to his coaching roots with the offensive line with
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts the last two years. But Joe Philbin
Speaker 1: is back, and uh, and I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of excitement because it's sure sounds like number twelve Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is excited to have him back as well. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about a guy that that fits
Speaker 1: what the Packers do here. Joe Philbin is is that
Speaker 1: and then some both as a coach also just as
Speaker 1: a human being. I go back to a conversation I had,
Speaker 1: I would say, this was the first time the Packers
Speaker 1: played Philbin's Dolphins. I think that was two thou and
Speaker 1: I remember talking to Josh Sitton, former Packers guard now
Speaker 1: with the Bears about Joe Philbin, and you know how
Speaker 1: Sitting is. He's gruff, he's he's sometimes kurt. But he
Speaker 1: had such an interesting insight into what it was like
Speaker 1: playing for Philban because he mentioned, you know, when he
Speaker 1: first came there out of UCF, those two really butted
Speaker 1: heads a lot. But by the time Philman had moved
Speaker 1: on to his next opportunity, there was really nobody that's
Speaker 1: Sitting respected more. And it just seemed like there's a
Speaker 1: folksy sort of aspect to Philbin. He he's really self deprecating,
Speaker 1: mentioning that he's starting to get up there in age
Speaker 1: and he's along with some of these older people that
Speaker 1: that he sometimes likes to reference. But at the same
Speaker 1: time he really can clamp down in coach hard and
Speaker 1: knowing that balance is difficult because you get the players
Speaker 1: coach thing, you get the guys that are are sort
Speaker 1: of these um you know, sometimes can be divisive and
Speaker 1: how confrontational they are. It just seems to me that
Speaker 1: that Philbin has just such a great pulse for where
Speaker 1: he needs to be in what he needs to do
Speaker 1: to get the most out of his players. And as
Speaker 1: his biggest quote, I thought in my takeaway, and I
Speaker 1: know you wrote about on packers dot Com. The fact
Speaker 1: that his job being an offensive coordinator his four seasons
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins really opened his eyes to the challenge
Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy has weekend and week out, and now
Speaker 1: that his Now that he's back, his two main goals
Speaker 1: is to help the offense score points and make Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy look like the smartest play caller in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And he's ready to do that again here. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a guy who is a coach through and through.
Speaker 1: And I don't care what position if you're calling him
Speaker 1: an offensive line coach, calling an offensive coordinator, a head coach,
Speaker 1: and associate head coach, He's a coach through and through
Speaker 1: because the one we hear from Mike McCarthy, probably more
Speaker 1: than anything else about Joe Philbin when it comes to coaching,
Speaker 1: is he's a teacher. And and that's why I think
Speaker 1: that's what players gravitate toward in a sense, because they
Speaker 1: know this guy is going to show me how to
Speaker 1: do it. Then it's up to me just to execute
Speaker 1: it and do it. But I know that this guy
Speaker 1: knows how to get it done, so I need to
Speaker 1: learn it and figure it out. And the other thing that,
Speaker 1: uh that you know bears mentioning with Philbin as well,
Speaker 1: because he was asked about this if he had any
Speaker 1: reservations whatsoever about coming back to Green Bay. And for
Speaker 1: the fans who aren't necessarily familiar with the story. Back
Speaker 1: at the end of the two thousand eleven season, the
Speaker 1: Packers were fifteen and one, had a first round by
Speaker 1: getting ready to play the Giants in the Divisional round
Speaker 1: of the playoffs at lambeau Field. In just a few
Speaker 1: days before that game, one of Joe Philbin's adult sons, Michael,
Speaker 1: tragically drowned in an accident in the Fox River and
Speaker 1: lost one of his I believe six children. Um, just
Speaker 1: a tragic thing. And UM, not long after that, you know,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins came calling, wanted him to be a
Speaker 1: head coach. It was a big family decision and everything,
Speaker 1: and they decided to to make that leap as a
Speaker 1: family to go to South Florida. So obviously you could understand,
Speaker 1: and he even said it's very, very emotional to come
Speaker 1: back to Green Bay, but he also balanced that with
Speaker 1: all the people that he knows here that he cares about,
Speaker 1: that care about him and his family, and that remember
Speaker 1: him from the time here, and he just felt like
Speaker 1: the timing was right to come back. It may not
Speaker 1: have been right at other other times to to try
Speaker 1: to come back to Green Bay, the timing is right now,
Speaker 1: and he sounds like a guy who's pretty excited to
Speaker 1: move forward. Yeah, Mike, and obviously your father, I'm now
Speaker 1: a father. Um. I just I go back to two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven and I remember seeing Philbin during that day.
Speaker 1: I was just a little quote taker at the press box,
Speaker 1: just working game days, doing the home locker room. I
Speaker 1: remember seeing Philibin and just thinking, Oh my god, what
Speaker 1: this man must be going through right now. I could
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't even imagine it at the time.
Speaker 1: Tragic situation. But the one thing that I took away
Speaker 1: from that, and you referenced it a little bit when
Speaker 1: we were discussing this at the press conference, how his
Speaker 1: family really pulled together at that time and you know,
Speaker 1: this is all going on. The Packers are in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins are potentially knocking on his door as
Speaker 1: a head coach, and how they really grab you know,
Speaker 1: they gravitated towards each other and they leaned at each
Speaker 1: other during that time and now, as Philbin said, every
Speaker 1: decisions he's made, he's taken to his family into account,
Speaker 1: whether it was going to Miami, whether it was going
Speaker 1: back to Indianapolis, and now coming back to Green Bay.
Speaker 1: I think And Mike McCarthy said that the first thing
Speaker 1: he asked was him and his wife if if they're
Speaker 1: going to be comfortable with that aspect of it. And
Speaker 1: I still I think there's an element. I don't want
Speaker 1: to put words in Joe Philipin's mouth, but I just
Speaker 1: feel like this is they're thinking, and this is that
Speaker 1: this is where we need to be, and this is
Speaker 1: you know, like the connection that they feel with Green Bay.
Speaker 1: In some ways, it's almost kind of tranquil in a
Speaker 1: way that that they're coming back and now having an
Speaker 1: opportunity to finish what he started with the Packers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he even mentioned that, you know, he asked his
Speaker 1: water of all of his children, he has just one
Speaker 1: who's still at home. She has one year of high
Speaker 1: school left to go. And he said, you know, if
Speaker 1: my daughter had said, Dad, I really want to finish
Speaker 1: high school in Indianapolis. I don't want to move again
Speaker 1: right now, he said, he probably wouldn't have come to
Speaker 1: Green Bay that that. You know, they're all in as
Speaker 1: a family wherever they go, you know, with with regards
Speaker 1: to uh, job decisions, to other family decisions, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, but um, his daughter was on board, his
Speaker 1: wife was on board, and uh and you know, green
Speaker 1: Bay is is glad to welcome Joe Philbin back as
Speaker 1: well as his entire family. And the tip of the
Speaker 1: cap to his daughter. I don't know her name offhand,
Speaker 1: but I mean that's as he said, that's her third
Speaker 1: high school in four years. That's not easy for a kid.
Speaker 1: But it just again shows you how tight knit that
Speaker 1: family is and how much I'm sure she realizes to
Speaker 1: what this team in this community means to her father.
Speaker 1: All Right, with that, we're going to throw it to
Speaker 1: a break back with more on Packers Unscripted right after
Speaker 1: this Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, Wes
Speaker 1: Hodkowitz over there, and west quickly kind of an overview
Speaker 1: of the rest of Mike McCarthy staff as it stands
Speaker 1: right now. We've talked about the offensive and defensive coordinators,
Speaker 1: but a new structure to things in the sense that
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Mike McCarthy now has
Speaker 1: a run game coordinator and a pass game coordinator for
Speaker 1: both the offense and the defense. On offense, your run
Speaker 1: game coordinator is James Campon, who will also continue to
Speaker 1: coach the offensive line. Your pass game coordinator is Jim Hostler,
Speaker 1: who worked with Joe Philbin on the offensive staff in
Speaker 1: Indianapolis over the last couple of years. On the defensive side,
Speaker 1: Joe Witt Jr. Is your pass game coordinator. The Packers
Speaker 1: cornerbacks coach for a number of years. He actually interviewed
Speaker 1: for the defensive coordinator job, but Mike McCarthy to decided
Speaker 1: to go with Mike Petton and then run game coordinator
Speaker 1: on defense is Patrick Graham, who was also going to
Speaker 1: coach the inside linebackers. Worked on Ben mcadoo's staff with
Speaker 1: the New York Giants the last couple of years, and
Speaker 1: before that was on the New England Patriots defensive staff,
Speaker 1: coaching both defensive linemen and linebackers at some different times there. So,
Speaker 1: from a structural standpoint, what do you make of this?
Speaker 1: With these titles? The thing I enjoyed the most about
Speaker 1: this because I had basically a chance to ask everybody
Speaker 1: about it, and I know you talked to Patrick Graham.
Speaker 1: I didn't get over to him, but it was interesting
Speaker 1: to me that the coaches who are returning the guy,
Speaker 1: you know, James Camping and Joe Witt had a very
Speaker 1: clear idea of what this is gonna mean and what
Speaker 1: this is going to accomplish. Jim Hustler was a little
Speaker 1: bit more Okay, we gotta wait and see, you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of things. But I'll say this, Joe Wit
Speaker 1: knows exactly what he wants to do in this role.
Speaker 1: And and he did say, you know, he was disappointed
Speaker 1: that he didn't initially get the defensive coordinator job, but
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy went out of his way during the news
Speaker 1: conference to really praise him for the job he did.
Speaker 1: Uh and and kind of checking all the boxes that
Speaker 1: what McCarthy was looking for, but going with a little
Speaker 1: bit more experience with Mike Petton and enjoy Wait agrees
Speaker 1: it's the right move. And the thing that really sold
Speaker 1: him on that is the fact that he and Petton
Speaker 1: both put their playbooks down and he saw so much
Speaker 1: synergy between the two of them, uh, in terms of
Speaker 1: what their core philosophies are and what they look to
Speaker 1: accomplish with past defense. Patton emphasizes past defense and his
Speaker 1: his scheme and to some ways, you can make a
Speaker 1: case that it's almost the opposite of what dom capers
Speaker 1: want to accomplish with a run for you know, stop
Speaker 1: the run first mentality. UM. I don't think either one
Speaker 1: is right or wrong, but it really fits to what
Speaker 1: what is looking for. And basically the biggest aspect of
Speaker 1: that is going to be tying the cornerbacks, the secondary
Speaker 1: and those coverage linebackers together under one voice, with one
Speaker 1: vision and in hopes of improving communication at the end
Speaker 1: of the day with all these positions. I think that's
Speaker 1: what it comes down to. Yeah, it is. It's about
Speaker 1: having It's about having communication within the structure so that
Speaker 1: all levels of your offense, your defense. UM, guys don't
Speaker 1: just go into their into their side loads, into their
Speaker 1: individual position meeting rooms and learn things a certain way
Speaker 1: and then you get out on the practice field or
Speaker 1: out on game day and you know, maybe not everybody's
Speaker 1: quite on the same page. Not to say that people
Speaker 1: are playing the game differently, but it's all about trying
Speaker 1: to develop more cohesiveness and Mike McCarthy even said on
Speaker 1: the offensive side, you know, he and Joe Philbin are
Speaker 1: working on essentially rewriting the playbook, almost starting over from scratch,
Speaker 1: like he's a first year head coach again back in
Speaker 1: two thousand six and and really building things from the
Speaker 1: ground up. And uh. And on the defensive side, we've seen,
Speaker 1: we've seen, you know what lack of communication can lead
Speaker 1: to on game days, you know, missed assignments and all
Speaker 1: it takes in this league is being a half a
Speaker 1: step behind, a half a step slow in a certain
Speaker 1: reaction because the communication isn't quite there, where the understanding
Speaker 1: isn't quite there, and then big plays happen, and so
Speaker 1: the Packers are trying to trying to shore all those
Speaker 1: things up. Also, just to to touch on some of
Speaker 1: the others um new coaches coming in Frank Signetti Um,
Speaker 1: whose relationship with Mike McCarthy actually goes way back to
Speaker 1: the late nineteen eighties at the University of Pittsburgh is
Speaker 1: when they first met one another, at least somewhere back
Speaker 1: in that in that timeframe. He is the new quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 1: David rye Um, who has been an offensive perimeter coach,
Speaker 1: is now specifically the wide receiver's coach. Jason Simmons, who
Speaker 1: has been here as an assistant special teams coach, is
Speaker 1: now actually a secondary coach on defense, and then his
Speaker 1: assistant special team's position has been he's been replaced by
Speaker 1: Maurice Drayton, if I have that name correct, um. And
Speaker 1: then also Jerry Montgomery, who we thought was leaving for
Speaker 1: Texas A and m has decided to come back and
Speaker 1: be the defensive line coach in place of Mike Turgovac,
Speaker 1: who is now with the Oakland Raiders. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that covered everything. I probably missed somebody on that,
Speaker 1: but uh um, But yeah, a lot of changes. There
Speaker 1: hasn't been this much change on Mike McCarthy's coaching staff
Speaker 1: since he got here. There hasn't. But the thing I
Speaker 1: like about it, Mike, is it brings in some new perspectives.
Speaker 1: It's not like they just overhauled the entire coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Defensive wise, there's still a lot of same guys offensively.
Speaker 1: James Campin has been there for fifteen years now, so
Speaker 1: it's just bringing new ideas together. And even though there
Speaker 1: are new people coming in like Signetian Hustler, all their
Speaker 1: webs kind of tie together a little bit too in
Speaker 1: terms of how they've come across this thing. So I
Speaker 1: think for the Packers will really benefit from it. All Right.
Speaker 1: With that, we're going to go to a break back
Speaker 1: with more and Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Packers Unscripted Mike Spofford alongside Wes Hodkowitz and West
Speaker 1: Before we go. Another thing to touch on. We heard
Speaker 1: from Mike McCarthy for the first time since the whole
Speaker 1: restructuring at the top with with Mark Murphy essentially being
Speaker 1: the individual that russ Ball as executive VP of Football Operations,
Speaker 1: Brian Gudak instas general manager or and Mike McCarthy as
Speaker 1: head coach, they will all report to him. McCarthy kind
Speaker 1: of jokingly, although maybe he wasn't totally joking, but said
Speaker 1: in the last three weeks he's talked to Mark Murphy
Speaker 1: more than maybe he did in his first twelve seasons here,
Speaker 1: and we know from Mike McCarthy he loves having more
Speaker 1: open lines of communication. I think this is something that
Speaker 1: he really likes. He likes the way the structure is
Speaker 1: set up. He's not going to tell Brian goodakoin's to
Speaker 1: him to draft, but I think he feels like he
Speaker 1: will have a little bit more input, just in a
Speaker 1: general sense in terms of how the roster is put
Speaker 1: together and the players that he will be in charge
Speaker 1: of coaching over the last decade. Mike, who are the
Speaker 1: most visible portions of the organization. It's Mark Murphy, Ted
Speaker 1: Thompson and Mike McCarthy. With Ted Thompson taking a step back,
Speaker 1: I think that means that you want to have a
Speaker 1: more pronounced impact from Mark Murphy. And this isn't just
Speaker 1: a fancy tagline and it's not a power grab. I
Speaker 1: think I really wish fans could see what I think
Speaker 1: you and I have seen over the last month that
Speaker 1: when McCarthy said that didn't surprise me at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: Murphy was down in the locker room during the introduction
Speaker 1: of the coaches, going around talking to Murray straight and
Speaker 1: talking to all these guys. He's made a point to
Speaker 1: be more involved in football, and I think that's a
Speaker 1: smart approach for this. And I'll say this too, as
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said, this is exactly if you're head coach,
Speaker 1: don't you You want to have more communication and to me.
Speaker 1: Listen to McCarthy during his you know, time at the podium,
Speaker 1: he just sounds like a guy who's very excited now
Speaker 1: about this arrangement. Yeah, and I think we and I
Speaker 1: don't want to mischaracterize this, but we have to remember too,
Speaker 1: it's not as though when Mark Murphy came in here
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight that everything was all hunky dory.
Speaker 1: They had to deal with the Brett Farve thing with
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy and far but Mark Murphy
Speaker 1: had to get involved in that. That's a rough start
Speaker 1: to a relationship at the top for anybody who's involved.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think the Packers organization now is going
Speaker 1: to benefit go. Yeah, they've gone through adversity before and
Speaker 1: it's made them better. Yeah. With that, we'll call it
Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure
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