1
00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:20,919
Speaker 1: M Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers unscripted from Packers dot Com.

2
00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,840
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is Wes Hodkowits were

3
00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,920
Speaker 1: coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field

4
00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,640
Speaker 1: and West. It's finally here, the day we've been waiting

5
00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,400
Speaker 1: for talking about the Packers new coaches on the coaching staff.

6
00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,240
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy making all the announcements official a little earlier

7
00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,040
Speaker 1: this week, so it's time to dive into some of

8
00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,800
Speaker 1: the details here. And I want to start with defensive

9
00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,000
Speaker 1: coordinator Mike Patton because he's probably, you know, as far

10
00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,960
Speaker 1: as his level of position, a more unfamiliar face to

11
00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,240
Speaker 1: h two Packers fans and Um. He made quite a

12
00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,000
Speaker 1: first impression in his opening news conference. I thought Um

13
00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,600
Speaker 1: showed a little bit of sense of humor, but also

14
00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,399
Speaker 1: showed that he is very much a no nonsense football guy.

15
00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,720
Speaker 1: And I think this is going to be an interesting

16
00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for pack for the Packers and for Packers

17
00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,960
Speaker 1: fans to get to know. Yeah, Mike, and we're gonna

18
00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,320
Speaker 1: have months, weeks, all this time ahead between this day

19
00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,199
Speaker 1: and the start of training camp to start the regular

20
00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,480
Speaker 1: season to talk about his scheme, but I want to

21
00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,640
Speaker 1: start off with Mark Mike Petton the individual, and let's

22
00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,240
Speaker 1: let's be honest here, Mike, he has big shoes to fill.

23
00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,040
Speaker 1: From a media obligation standpoint, dom Caper's is one of

24
00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,880
Speaker 1: the best there is in the business in terms of

25
00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,720
Speaker 1: dealing with on a day in and day out basis.

26
00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,760
Speaker 1: My good friend Darren Gant, who covered him during his

27
00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,400
Speaker 1: time with the Carolina Panthers as the head coach. Darren

28
00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,800
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything nice about anybody. He loves dom Capers

29
00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,080
Speaker 1: because he's just a true gentleman. So from that perspective,

30
00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,000
Speaker 1: I think there actually was some big shoes for him

31
00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,680
Speaker 1: for Mike Petton to walk into that auditorium and to

32
00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,919
Speaker 1: become the new face of the defense, and I thought

33
00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,840
Speaker 1: he hit it absolutely out of the park. You had

34
00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,880
Speaker 1: so a great comment about this afterwards too, and we

35
00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,880
Speaker 1: were talking. He managed to hit on all the big points,

36
00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,520
Speaker 1: the big questions that you knew that were coming, complicated scheme,

37
00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, revigorating the defense, and he was able to

38
00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,079
Speaker 1: provide answers without making them sound like something you get

39
00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,480
Speaker 1: off a stock quote sheet. Yeah. Uh. He was very personable.

40
00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,880
Speaker 1: There's a human aspect to him and I just thought

41
00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,440
Speaker 1: over those fifteen minutes, I said this an insider inbox

42
00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,960
Speaker 1: on on Thursday. I just felt he won the press

43
00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,360
Speaker 1: conference because he gave you an idea of who he

44
00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,600
Speaker 1: is as an individual, where he comes from. And also,

45
00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200
Speaker 1: I think, based on just hearing him talk for fifteen minutes,

46
00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,320
Speaker 1: a good idea of why players have gravitated towards him.

47
00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,639
Speaker 1: And he's been successful in this league. Yeah, he's certainly

48
00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,079
Speaker 1: been plenty successful. He's had a handful of top five defenses,

49
00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,440
Speaker 1: coaching both the New York Jets and the Buffalo Bills.

50
00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,400
Speaker 1: He was obviously the head coach for the Cleveland Browns

51
00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,000
Speaker 1: for a couple of years in a really difficult situation

52
00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,120
Speaker 1: with the whole Johnny Menzel thing and a lot of

53
00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,359
Speaker 1: stuff that he had to deal with. There wasn't really

54
00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,000
Speaker 1: put in a position to succeed, just be honest, um,

55
00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,720
Speaker 1: but took a couple of years off. Was involved in

56
00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,000
Speaker 1: kind of a consulting gig for Seahawks coach Pete Carroll

57
00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760
Speaker 1: last year, kind of working from home but staying in

58
00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,880
Speaker 1: touch with NFL film and evaluating players and and evaluating

59
00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,920
Speaker 1: teams and schemes, and decided to to jump back into

60
00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,240
Speaker 1: the fray here, and I know I expected him to

61
00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,639
Speaker 1: say the whole three four or four three thing really

62
00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,400
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I saw that one coming, and I think

63
00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,400
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense, especially in this day

64
00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,840
Speaker 1: and age in the NFL. What really impressed me about

65
00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 1: what he talked about with his scheme that I think

66
00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,080
Speaker 1: is going to be very interesting to watch going forward

67
00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,240
Speaker 1: and how it manifests itself on the field, as he

68
00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:46,400
Speaker 1: talked about wanting to be multiple, to look complicated to

69
00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,720
Speaker 1: an offense, but to not be complicated for his players

70
00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,680
Speaker 1: on defense. And I know that's a it's a fancy line,

71
00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,240
Speaker 1: it sounds good. I'm sure it's easier said than done,

72
00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,720
Speaker 1: but I'm really interested to see exactly how that takes shape.

73
00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,640
Speaker 1: Lot of it is the pre snap is what it

74
00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,280
Speaker 1: comes back to Mike McCarthy when he addressed the media

75
00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,840
Speaker 1: as well on Wednesday, saying they need to start winning

76
00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,120
Speaker 1: the pre snap battle. That was an area that really

77
00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,000
Speaker 1: did hamper the Packers. I agree with that in two

78
00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,040
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, now you get Mike pett in here.

79
00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,760
Speaker 1: It's about presenting different looks pre snap, but also not

80
00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,760
Speaker 1: overwhelming your players either, you know, trying to make sure

81
00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,400
Speaker 1: that the quarterback doesn't have everything figured out by the

82
00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,680
Speaker 1: time he snaps the ball, that things are going to

83
00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,680
Speaker 1: surprise him and he and you know, Petton hit it.

84
00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,200
Speaker 1: You know he faced it, that question right on, because

85
00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure he knew it was comic in terms of

86
00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,880
Speaker 1: the complicatedness of the scheme. I think that became more

87
00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,200
Speaker 1: of a narrative after the time in Cleveland than even

88
00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,000
Speaker 1: it was before that when he was with the New

89
00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,240
Speaker 1: York Jets. Even going back to Rex Ryan's defense with

90
00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,359
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and understanding exactly what you're trying to

91
00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,360
Speaker 1: accomplish as a unit. I mean, you could just sense

92
00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,920
Speaker 1: the excitement he has when he looks at this roster.

93
00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,920
Speaker 1: He said, the cupboard is not bear. From a defensive standpoint,

94
00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,600
Speaker 1: you have veterans Clay Matthews, one of them most versatile

95
00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,160
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the NFL. He looks forward to taking

96
00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,760
Speaker 1: those talent, taking that those players and finding a way

97
00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,800
Speaker 1: to make it work within his scheme. And just one

98
00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,840
Speaker 1: other further point, Mike, when he did say the four

99
00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,920
Speaker 1: three three four debate, I think the Holly Louis heard

100
00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,480
Speaker 1: from the back was me because this is a question

101
00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,400
Speaker 1: that I've said this is a question we get constantly

102
00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,680
Speaker 1: an insider in box, Well, the Packers be better off

103
00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,159
Speaker 1: if they go to a four three. Petton said, they're

104
00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,880
Speaker 1: playing base defense ten twelve snaps a game. It's not

105
00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,240
Speaker 1: a league where you're playing seven hundred defensive snaps anymore

106
00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,440
Speaker 1: out of your base defense. It's it's a sub package league.

107
00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,720
Speaker 1: And in this new environment after the most recent CBA,

108
00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,880
Speaker 1: with the restrictions you have, I think Petton has proved

109
00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,280
Speaker 1: that his scheme can succeed in this environment, and it's

110
00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,880
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why Mike McCarthy brought him in

111
00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,280
Speaker 1: as a new defensive coordinator. And one quick point too

112
00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,800
Speaker 1: before we go to a break, when he talked about,

113
00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,479
Speaker 1: you know, you have your outside linebackers, you can sort

114
00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,560
Speaker 1: of have that three four concept, but then you can

115
00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,880
Speaker 1: take one of them, put his hand in the dirt

116
00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,320
Speaker 1: and sort of then you have more of a four three.

117
00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,800
Speaker 1: Look to me, that has Nick Perry written all over it.

118
00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,920
Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's he's the guy. He's he's big.

119
00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's got that big lower body. He can

120
00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,720
Speaker 1: play defensive end. He can also play stand up outside linebacker.

121
00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,719
Speaker 1: He's done it. I really think and obviously Nick Perry

122
00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,039
Speaker 1: needs to stay healthy. We all know about that. I

123
00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,919
Speaker 1: think Nick Perry might be one of the guys that

124
00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,400
Speaker 1: Mike Petton is most excited about in this defense. Yeah,

125
00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,360
Speaker 1: it's a great point, Mike, because there is a lot

126
00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,000
Speaker 1: of guys in this defense with a hybrid mentality that

127
00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,520
Speaker 1: they have, whether it's defensive backs, whether it's linebackers, guys

128
00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,839
Speaker 1: that can fit different types of schemes and trying to

129
00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,359
Speaker 1: maximize their ability. You're absolutely right, Perry has to stay healthy.

130
00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,480
Speaker 1: But that's one of the reasons why they did extend

131
00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,599
Speaker 1: him last year coming off that eleven sex season, and

132
00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,240
Speaker 1: no doubt with that, we'll throw it to a break

133
00:06:43,279 --> 00:07:04,000
Speaker 1: back with more and Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome

134
00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,760
Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted, Mike Spofford in this chair, Wes

135
00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,640
Speaker 1: Hodkowitz and that one and west shifting gears to the

136
00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,000
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator position. As unfamiliar as Mike Petton is to

137
00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,480
Speaker 1: Packers fans, Joe Philbin a very familiar face, obviously returning

138
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,000
Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator. He was in that position for five

139
00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,120
Speaker 1: seasons from two thousand and seven to two thousand eleven.

140
00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,640
Speaker 1: Began actually coaching with the Packers on the offensive line

141
00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,160
Speaker 1: in two thousand three, before Mike McCarthy even arrived during

142
00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,000
Speaker 1: the Mike Sherman era. And um, you know, certainly a

143
00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,880
Speaker 1: guy he's happy to be back in Green Bay. You

144
00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,720
Speaker 1: could tell Mike McCarthy is very happy to have Joe

145
00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,040
Speaker 1: Philbin back after his four years as a head coach

146
00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,960
Speaker 1: in Miami and then a couple of years as an

147
00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,520
Speaker 1: associate head coach and offensive line coach. Kind of getting

148
00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,480
Speaker 1: back to his coaching roots with the offensive line with

149
00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,120
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts the last two years. But Joe Philbin

150
00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,160
Speaker 1: is back, and uh, and I think there's a lot

151
00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,559
Speaker 1: of excitement because it's sure sounds like number twelve Aaron

152
00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers is excited to have him back as well. Yeah.

153
00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about a guy that that fits

154
00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,680
Speaker 1: what the Packers do here. Joe Philbin is is that

155
00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,560
Speaker 1: and then some both as a coach also just as

156
00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,320
Speaker 1: a human being. I go back to a conversation I had,

157
00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,720
Speaker 1: I would say, this was the first time the Packers

158
00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,320
Speaker 1: played Philbin's Dolphins. I think that was two thou and

159
00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,440
Speaker 1: I remember talking to Josh Sitton, former Packers guard now

160
00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,840
Speaker 1: with the Bears about Joe Philbin, and you know how

161
00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,640
Speaker 1: Sitting is. He's gruff, he's he's sometimes kurt. But he

162
00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,760
Speaker 1: had such an interesting insight into what it was like

163
00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,760
Speaker 1: playing for Philban because he mentioned, you know, when he

164
00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,840
Speaker 1: first came there out of UCF, those two really butted

165
00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,240
Speaker 1: heads a lot. But by the time Philman had moved

166
00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,640
Speaker 1: on to his next opportunity, there was really nobody that's

167
00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,560
Speaker 1: Sitting respected more. And it just seemed like there's a

168
00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,920
Speaker 1: folksy sort of aspect to Philbin. He he's really self deprecating,

169
00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,840
Speaker 1: mentioning that he's starting to get up there in age

170
00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,920
Speaker 1: and he's along with some of these older people that

171
00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,800
Speaker 1: that he sometimes likes to reference. But at the same

172
00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,840
Speaker 1: time he really can clamp down in coach hard and

173
00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,720
Speaker 1: knowing that balance is difficult because you get the players

174
00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,280
Speaker 1: coach thing, you get the guys that are are sort

175
00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,520
Speaker 1: of these um you know, sometimes can be divisive and

176
00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,720
Speaker 1: how confrontational they are. It just seems to me that

177
00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,440
Speaker 1: that Philbin has just such a great pulse for where

178
00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,480
Speaker 1: he needs to be in what he needs to do

179
00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,200
Speaker 1: to get the most out of his players. And as

180
00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,240
Speaker 1: his biggest quote, I thought in my takeaway, and I

181
00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,920
Speaker 1: know you wrote about on packers dot Com. The fact

182
00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,880
Speaker 1: that his job being an offensive coordinator his four seasons

183
00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,480
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins really opened his eyes to the challenge

184
00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,880
Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy has weekend and week out, and now

185
00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,000
Speaker 1: that his Now that he's back, his two main goals

186
00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,280
Speaker 1: is to help the offense score points and make Mike

187
00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,480
Speaker 1: McCarthy look like the smartest play caller in the NFL.

188
00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,080
Speaker 1: And he's ready to do that again here. Yeah, this

189
00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,800
Speaker 1: is a guy who is a coach through and through.

190
00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,840
Speaker 1: And I don't care what position if you're calling him

191
00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,439
Speaker 1: an offensive line coach, calling an offensive coordinator, a head coach,

192
00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,360
Speaker 1: and associate head coach, He's a coach through and through

193
00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,719
Speaker 1: because the one we hear from Mike McCarthy, probably more

194
00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,320
Speaker 1: than anything else about Joe Philbin when it comes to coaching,

195
00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,839
Speaker 1: is he's a teacher. And and that's why I think

196
00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,040
Speaker 1: that's what players gravitate toward in a sense, because they

197
00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,200
Speaker 1: know this guy is going to show me how to

198
00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,520
Speaker 1: do it. Then it's up to me just to execute

199
00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,080
Speaker 1: it and do it. But I know that this guy

200
00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,640
Speaker 1: knows how to get it done, so I need to

201
00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,640
Speaker 1: learn it and figure it out. And the other thing that,

202
00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,800
Speaker 1: uh that you know bears mentioning with Philbin as well,

203
00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,199
Speaker 1: because he was asked about this if he had any

204
00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,360
Speaker 1: reservations whatsoever about coming back to Green Bay. And for

205
00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,760
Speaker 1: the fans who aren't necessarily familiar with the story. Back

206
00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,760
Speaker 1: at the end of the two thousand eleven season, the

207
00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,800
Speaker 1: Packers were fifteen and one, had a first round by

208
00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,400
Speaker 1: getting ready to play the Giants in the Divisional round

209
00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,199
Speaker 1: of the playoffs at lambeau Field. In just a few

210
00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,800
Speaker 1: days before that game, one of Joe Philbin's adult sons, Michael,

211
00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,480
Speaker 1: tragically drowned in an accident in the Fox River and

212
00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,840
Speaker 1: lost one of his I believe six children. Um, just

213
00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,800
Speaker 1: a tragic thing. And UM, not long after that, you know,

214
00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,160
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins came calling, wanted him to be a

215
00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,640
Speaker 1: head coach. It was a big family decision and everything,

216
00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,959
Speaker 1: and they decided to to make that leap as a

217
00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,520
Speaker 1: family to go to South Florida. So obviously you could understand,

218
00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,000
Speaker 1: and he even said it's very, very emotional to come

219
00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,880
Speaker 1: back to Green Bay, but he also balanced that with

220
00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,760
Speaker 1: all the people that he knows here that he cares about,

221
00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,360
Speaker 1: that care about him and his family, and that remember

222
00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,600
Speaker 1: him from the time here, and he just felt like

223
00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,520
Speaker 1: the timing was right to come back. It may not

224
00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,079
Speaker 1: have been right at other other times to to try

225
00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,679
Speaker 1: to come back to Green Bay, the timing is right now,

226
00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,600
Speaker 1: and he sounds like a guy who's pretty excited to

227
00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,840
Speaker 1: move forward. Yeah, Mike, and obviously your father, I'm now

228
00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,880
Speaker 1: a father. Um. I just I go back to two

229
00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,840
Speaker 1: thousand eleven and I remember seeing Philbin during that day.

230
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,080
Speaker 1: I was just a little quote taker at the press box,

231
00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,679
Speaker 1: just working game days, doing the home locker room. I

232
00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,600
Speaker 1: remember seeing Philibin and just thinking, Oh my god, what

233
00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,960
Speaker 1: this man must be going through right now. I could

234
00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't even imagine it at the time.

235
00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,000
Speaker 1: Tragic situation. But the one thing that I took away

236
00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,800
Speaker 1: from that, and you referenced it a little bit when

237
00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480
Speaker 1: we were discussing this at the press conference, how his

238
00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,520
Speaker 1: family really pulled together at that time and you know,

239
00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,800
Speaker 1: this is all going on. The Packers are in the playoffs,

240
00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,560
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins are potentially knocking on his door as

241
00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,880
Speaker 1: a head coach, and how they really grab you know,

242
00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,120
Speaker 1: they gravitated towards each other and they leaned at each

243
00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,880
Speaker 1: other during that time and now, as Philbin said, every

244
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,240
Speaker 1: decisions he's made, he's taken to his family into account,

245
00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,640
Speaker 1: whether it was going to Miami, whether it was going

246
00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,040
Speaker 1: back to Indianapolis, and now coming back to Green Bay.

247
00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,000
Speaker 1: I think And Mike McCarthy said that the first thing

248
00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,679
Speaker 1: he asked was him and his wife if if they're

249
00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,480
Speaker 1: going to be comfortable with that aspect of it. And

250
00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,440
Speaker 1: I still I think there's an element. I don't want

251
00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,560
Speaker 1: to put words in Joe Philipin's mouth, but I just

252
00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,959
Speaker 1: feel like this is they're thinking, and this is that

253
00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,160
Speaker 1: this is where we need to be, and this is

254
00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, like the connection that they feel with Green Bay.

255
00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,040
Speaker 1: In some ways, it's almost kind of tranquil in a

256
00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,200
Speaker 1: way that that they're coming back and now having an

257
00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to finish what he started with the Packers. Yeah,

258
00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,760
Speaker 1: and he even mentioned that, you know, he asked his

259
00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,360
Speaker 1: water of all of his children, he has just one

260
00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,240
Speaker 1: who's still at home. She has one year of high

261
00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,240
Speaker 1: school left to go. And he said, you know, if

262
00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,480
Speaker 1: my daughter had said, Dad, I really want to finish

263
00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,640
Speaker 1: high school in Indianapolis. I don't want to move again

264
00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,600
Speaker 1: right now, he said, he probably wouldn't have come to

265
00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,760
Speaker 1: Green Bay that that. You know, they're all in as

266
00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,200
Speaker 1: a family wherever they go, you know, with with regards

267
00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,240
Speaker 1: to uh, job decisions, to other family decisions, and uh,

268
00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, but um, his daughter was on board, his

269
00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,680
Speaker 1: wife was on board, and uh and you know, green

270
00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,520
Speaker 1: Bay is is glad to welcome Joe Philbin back as

271
00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,280
Speaker 1: well as his entire family. And the tip of the

272
00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,040
Speaker 1: cap to his daughter. I don't know her name offhand,

273
00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,960
Speaker 1: but I mean that's as he said, that's her third

274
00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000
Speaker 1: high school in four years. That's not easy for a kid.

275
00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,360
Speaker 1: But it just again shows you how tight knit that

276
00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,959
Speaker 1: family is and how much I'm sure she realizes to

277
00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,760
Speaker 1: what this team in this community means to her father.

278
00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,320
Speaker 1: All Right, with that, we're going to throw it to

279
00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,800
Speaker 1: a break back with more on Packers Unscripted right after

280
00:13:52,840 --> 00:14:14,480
Speaker 1: this Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, Wes

281
00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,160
Speaker 1: Hodkowitz over there, and west quickly kind of an overview

282
00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,920
Speaker 1: of the rest of Mike McCarthy staff as it stands

283
00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,920
Speaker 1: right now. We've talked about the offensive and defensive coordinators,

284
00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,400
Speaker 1: but a new structure to things in the sense that

285
00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,040
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Mike McCarthy now has

286
00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,480
Speaker 1: a run game coordinator and a pass game coordinator for

287
00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,760
Speaker 1: both the offense and the defense. On offense, your run

288
00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,640
Speaker 1: game coordinator is James Campon, who will also continue to

289
00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,040
Speaker 1: coach the offensive line. Your pass game coordinator is Jim Hostler,

290
00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,840
Speaker 1: who worked with Joe Philbin on the offensive staff in

291
00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,520
Speaker 1: Indianapolis over the last couple of years. On the defensive side,

292
00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,240
Speaker 1: Joe Witt Jr. Is your pass game coordinator. The Packers

293
00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,120
Speaker 1: cornerbacks coach for a number of years. He actually interviewed

294
00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,280
Speaker 1: for the defensive coordinator job, but Mike McCarthy to decided

295
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,320
Speaker 1: to go with Mike Petton and then run game coordinator

296
00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,840
Speaker 1: on defense is Patrick Graham, who was also going to

297
00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,560
Speaker 1: coach the inside linebackers. Worked on Ben mcadoo's staff with

298
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,440
Speaker 1: the New York Giants the last couple of years, and

299
00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,520
Speaker 1: before that was on the New England Patriots defensive staff,

300
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,680
Speaker 1: coaching both defensive linemen and linebackers at some different times there. So,

301
00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,800
Speaker 1: from a structural standpoint, what do you make of this?

302
00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,400
Speaker 1: With these titles? The thing I enjoyed the most about

303
00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,120
Speaker 1: this because I had basically a chance to ask everybody

304
00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,000
Speaker 1: about it, and I know you talked to Patrick Graham.

305
00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,480
Speaker 1: I didn't get over to him, but it was interesting

306
00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,760
Speaker 1: to me that the coaches who are returning the guy,

307
00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, James Camping and Joe Witt had a very

308
00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,320
Speaker 1: clear idea of what this is gonna mean and what

309
00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,960
Speaker 1: this is going to accomplish. Jim Hustler was a little

310
00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,840
Speaker 1: bit more Okay, we gotta wait and see, you know,

311
00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,160
Speaker 1: in terms of things. But I'll say this, Joe Wit

312
00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,400
Speaker 1: knows exactly what he wants to do in this role.

313
00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,160
Speaker 1: And and he did say, you know, he was disappointed

314
00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,640
Speaker 1: that he didn't initially get the defensive coordinator job, but

315
00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,760
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy went out of his way during the news

316
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,440
Speaker 1: conference to really praise him for the job he did.

317
00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,400
Speaker 1: Uh and and kind of checking all the boxes that

318
00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,000
Speaker 1: what McCarthy was looking for, but going with a little

319
00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,480
Speaker 1: bit more experience with Mike Petton and enjoy Wait agrees

320
00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,640
Speaker 1: it's the right move. And the thing that really sold

321
00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,360
Speaker 1: him on that is the fact that he and Petton

322
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,120
Speaker 1: both put their playbooks down and he saw so much

323
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,800
Speaker 1: synergy between the two of them, uh, in terms of

324
00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,000
Speaker 1: what their core philosophies are and what they look to

325
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,120
Speaker 1: accomplish with past defense. Patton emphasizes past defense and his

326
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,360
Speaker 1: his scheme and to some ways, you can make a

327
00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,440
Speaker 1: case that it's almost the opposite of what dom capers

328
00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,320
Speaker 1: want to accomplish with a run for you know, stop

329
00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,000
Speaker 1: the run first mentality. UM. I don't think either one

330
00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,240
Speaker 1: is right or wrong, but it really fits to what

331
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,800
Speaker 1: what is looking for. And basically the biggest aspect of

332
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,520
Speaker 1: that is going to be tying the cornerbacks, the secondary

333
00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,480
Speaker 1: and those coverage linebackers together under one voice, with one

334
00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,320
Speaker 1: vision and in hopes of improving communication at the end

335
00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,560
Speaker 1: of the day with all these positions. I think that's

336
00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,480
Speaker 1: what it comes down to. Yeah, it is. It's about

337
00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,880
Speaker 1: having It's about having communication within the structure so that

338
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,080
Speaker 1: all levels of your offense, your defense. UM, guys don't

339
00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,680
Speaker 1: just go into their into their side loads, into their

340
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,840
Speaker 1: individual position meeting rooms and learn things a certain way

341
00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,679
Speaker 1: and then you get out on the practice field or

342
00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,840
Speaker 1: out on game day and you know, maybe not everybody's

343
00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,720
Speaker 1: quite on the same page. Not to say that people

344
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,440
Speaker 1: are playing the game differently, but it's all about trying

345
00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,720
Speaker 1: to develop more cohesiveness and Mike McCarthy even said on

346
00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,320
Speaker 1: the offensive side, you know, he and Joe Philbin are

347
00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,880
Speaker 1: working on essentially rewriting the playbook, almost starting over from scratch,

348
00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,840
Speaker 1: like he's a first year head coach again back in

349
00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,800
Speaker 1: two thousand six and and really building things from the

350
00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,879
Speaker 1: ground up. And uh. And on the defensive side, we've seen,

351
00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,320
Speaker 1: we've seen, you know what lack of communication can lead

352
00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,600
Speaker 1: to on game days, you know, missed assignments and all

353
00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,280
Speaker 1: it takes in this league is being a half a

354
00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,919
Speaker 1: step behind, a half a step slow in a certain

355
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,720
Speaker 1: reaction because the communication isn't quite there, where the understanding

356
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,280
Speaker 1: isn't quite there, and then big plays happen, and so

357
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,040
Speaker 1: the Packers are trying to trying to shore all those

358
00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,879
Speaker 1: things up. Also, just to to touch on some of

359
00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,880
Speaker 1: the others um new coaches coming in Frank Signetti Um,

360
00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,960
Speaker 1: whose relationship with Mike McCarthy actually goes way back to

361
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,720
Speaker 1: the late nineteen eighties at the University of Pittsburgh is

362
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,320
Speaker 1: when they first met one another, at least somewhere back

363
00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,399
Speaker 1: in that in that timeframe. He is the new quarterbacks coach.

364
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 1: David rye Um, who has been an offensive perimeter coach,

365
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,880
Speaker 1: is now specifically the wide receiver's coach. Jason Simmons, who

366
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,520
Speaker 1: has been here as an assistant special teams coach, is

367
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,600
Speaker 1: now actually a secondary coach on defense, and then his

368
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,440
Speaker 1: assistant special team's position has been he's been replaced by

369
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,679
Speaker 1: Maurice Drayton, if I have that name correct, um. And

370
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,399
Speaker 1: then also Jerry Montgomery, who we thought was leaving for

371
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,640
Speaker 1: Texas A and m has decided to come back and

372
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 1: be the defensive line coach in place of Mike Turgovac,

373
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,560
Speaker 1: who is now with the Oakland Raiders. So I don't

374
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,920
Speaker 1: know if that covered everything. I probably missed somebody on that,

375
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 1: but uh um, But yeah, a lot of changes. There

376
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,200
Speaker 1: hasn't been this much change on Mike McCarthy's coaching staff

377
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,199
Speaker 1: since he got here. There hasn't. But the thing I

378
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 1: like about it, Mike, is it brings in some new perspectives.

379
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 1: It's not like they just overhauled the entire coaching staff.

380
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 1: Defensive wise, there's still a lot of same guys offensively.

381
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: James Campin has been there for fifteen years now, so

382
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: it's just bringing new ideas together. And even though there

383
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 1: are new people coming in like Signetian Hustler, all their

384
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 1: webs kind of tie together a little bit too in

385
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520
Speaker 1: terms of how they've come across this thing. So I

386
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 1: think for the Packers will really benefit from it. All Right.

387
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 1: With that, we're going to go to a break back

388
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: with more and Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back

389
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 1: to Packers Unscripted Mike Spofford alongside Wes Hodkowitz and West

390
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 1: Before we go. Another thing to touch on. We heard

391
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 1: from Mike McCarthy for the first time since the whole

392
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: restructuring at the top with with Mark Murphy essentially being

393
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 1: the individual that russ Ball as executive VP of Football Operations,

394
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: Brian Gudak instas general manager or and Mike McCarthy as

395
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: head coach, they will all report to him. McCarthy kind

396
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: of jokingly, although maybe he wasn't totally joking, but said

397
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,679
Speaker 1: in the last three weeks he's talked to Mark Murphy

398
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 1: more than maybe he did in his first twelve seasons here,

399
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: and we know from Mike McCarthy he loves having more

400
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 1: open lines of communication. I think this is something that

401
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 1: he really likes. He likes the way the structure is

402
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 1: set up. He's not going to tell Brian goodakoin's to

403
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 1: him to draft, but I think he feels like he

404
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 1: will have a little bit more input, just in a

405
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 1: general sense in terms of how the roster is put

406
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 1: together and the players that he will be in charge

407
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 1: of coaching over the last decade. Mike, who are the

408
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: most visible portions of the organization. It's Mark Murphy, Ted

409
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 1: Thompson and Mike McCarthy. With Ted Thompson taking a step back,

410
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: I think that means that you want to have a

411
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: more pronounced impact from Mark Murphy. And this isn't just

412
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: a fancy tagline and it's not a power grab. I

413
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: think I really wish fans could see what I think

414
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: you and I have seen over the last month that

415
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: when McCarthy said that didn't surprise me at all. I mean,

416
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: Murphy was down in the locker room during the introduction

417
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: of the coaches, going around talking to Murray straight and

418
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: talking to all these guys. He's made a point to

419
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: be more involved in football, and I think that's a

420
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: smart approach for this. And I'll say this too, as

421
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said, this is exactly if you're head coach,

422
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: don't you You want to have more communication and to me.

423
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: Listen to McCarthy during his you know, time at the podium,

424
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: he just sounds like a guy who's very excited now

425
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: about this arrangement. Yeah, and I think we and I

426
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: don't want to mischaracterize this, but we have to remember too,

427
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: it's not as though when Mark Murphy came in here

428
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight that everything was all hunky dory.

429
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 1: They had to deal with the Brett Farve thing with

430
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy and far but Mark Murphy

431
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: had to get involved in that. That's a rough start

432
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 1: to a relationship at the top for anybody who's involved.

433
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: And uh, I think the Packers organization now is going

434
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: to benefit go. Yeah, they've gone through adversity before and

435
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: it's made them better. Yeah. With that, we'll call it

436
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure

437
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on

438
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. Him on Twitter, he's at west Hod,

439
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account.

440
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, everybody, We'll see you next time.

441
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 1: H m hm.