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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. So let's start with John in Naples, Italy,

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Speaker 1: since he was hanging on the longest on Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast AM, and we'll go from there. So John, thank

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Speaker 1: you for being patient. It's open lines. Where are you

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Speaker 1: gonna take us? I had to laugh Ian uh talking

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Speaker 1: I tried, and I have to admit, while this is

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Speaker 1: not my first time calling into the show, it is

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Speaker 1: my first time calling in and talking to you, which

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Speaker 1: it's a great honor and I'm super stoked about that.

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Speaker 1: A long time listener, like a lot of us are

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Speaker 1: out there, and you're definitely You're definitely up there in

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Speaker 1: terms of hosts for me when I thank you when

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Speaker 1: I listened to the show. And it's great to be

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Speaker 1: kicking off open lines to night. So Uh, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to steer the conversation towards UFOs. All right, there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of there's been a lot of stuff in

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Speaker 1: and I hope it's not lost on people. Okay, UM.

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Speaker 1: Senator Kirsten Jilla Brand of New York was was quoted

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Speaker 1: in a lot of articles this week, uh, making the

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Speaker 1: argument that I think a lot of us in coast

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Speaker 1: long long time, which is just common sense arguments, right,

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Speaker 1: asking questions of what the heck are these things in

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Speaker 1: pilots seeing? You know, what the heck are these things?

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Speaker 1: Where where there's a million questions is the bottom line,

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Speaker 1: and we don't have an answers to any one of them.

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Speaker 1: And so whether you want to frame the argument as

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Speaker 1: safety of flight issue for commercial airliners or whatever the

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Speaker 1: case is, the point is there's legitimate there's a there

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Speaker 1: there legitimate questions, and it just seems like this past

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Speaker 1: week or past couple weeks, and certainly past month or two.

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Speaker 1: I'm someone who's followed the topic for a long long time, right,

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Speaker 1: and I can't recall this many number of high level

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Speaker 1: Senators on the Bill Nelson's Committee's Bill Nelton, Yeah, Bill Nelson,

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Speaker 1: Senator Jilbrin Avrol Haynes, Right, the Director of National Intelligence,

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Speaker 1: Um kind of floating or throwing the possibility but out

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Speaker 1: It's actually pretty funny if you watch her her video,

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Speaker 1: But the point is this, this is what progress looks like. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm a i'm a i'm a i'm a I'm a

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Speaker 1: Louis Zando fan. Okay, And you know, I follow all

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Speaker 1: come on, guy, like, you know, get over yourself, you know. Um.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, but this is what progress looks like.

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Speaker 1: I'll grant you that. But here's my question to you,

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Speaker 1: because because you say, here's our takeaway, So why do

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Speaker 1: still trip over saying the word extraterrestrial. If somebody like

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Speaker 1: if they're all willing to have the conversation now and

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Speaker 1: the public is yawning, what does that tell us? Gosh?

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Speaker 1: You know, I well, first of all, I think that

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Speaker 1: so what give me? Give me more? Um? And I

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Speaker 1: And so that's kind of my point about how, you

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Speaker 1: change their lives. Nothing about you could confirm tomorrow this

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Speaker 1: Change in society is slow, no matter what right, and

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be everywhere, and people are just gonna go. Okay,

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