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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All Right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now live from mar A Lago in lovely tom Beach,

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Speaker 2: and we are not just here for the delicious food

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Speaker 2: and incredible architecture, although that would be cool too. Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump will be joining us in the third hour of

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Speaker 2: the programs. In just about an hour from right now,

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Speaker 2: you'll be hearing from the man himself. He'll be with

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Speaker 2: us for the full hour, So a lot of things

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Speaker 2: we're going to be able to get to with him,

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Speaker 2: and you certainly want to stick around for that. Also

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Speaker 2: today in New York City, the final witness called Ivanka Trump,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's, one of Donald Trump's daughters, was testifying before

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Speaker 2: Judge anger On. A'm I saying his name right now, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't even know how to pronounce it, anger On. Crazy

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Speaker 1: old former Cabby. Yeah, you know, he used to play

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Speaker 1: in a band in bars before he ended up being

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Speaker 1: as an attorney. I kind of like him, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's he's had an interesting career path from Cabby to

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Speaker 1: playing and deciding to stop practicing law to play in

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Speaker 1: a band in a New York bar to now being

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Speaker 1: in charge of the courtroom. Yeah, he's an anti Trump zealot,

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Speaker 1: and he's got Ivanka answered questions about the loans for

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Speaker 1: the banks, the banks that didn't ask anyone to do

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Speaker 1: anything on their behalf here because they're fine. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's Trump and this is just another of the many

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Speaker 1: pronged effort, another instance of the get Trump at.

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Speaker 2: All costs strategy, which you know tonight. Wow, we haven't

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Speaker 2: even talked about the fact there's a debate tonight. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's right here in a second, there is a Republican debate.

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Speaker 2: It is in Miami. He planned. I'll be driving back

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Speaker 2: to Miami tonight to be at least in the vicinity

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Speaker 2: of maybe we'll go. I don't know. I know what

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Speaker 2: will make a last minute decision as to whether or

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Speaker 2: not we'll show up a the debate, and we'll keep people

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Speaker 2: on the on the edge of their seats, not like

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Speaker 2: anyone cares what we show up. But point being, there's

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Speaker 2: a Republican debate tonight. Donald try will not be on

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Speaker 2: that stage. He will be on a different stage. Beforehand,

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Speaker 2: we'll ask him what he's planning and how that's all

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Speaker 2: going to go in the meantime, And I also want

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Speaker 2: to get play into some of the thoughts on that

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Speaker 2: goopd B, like what are your prognostications, because I'm just

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Speaker 2: realizing we're not really going to get too deep into

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Speaker 2: that in the third hour because it's going to be

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Speaker 2: on the Trump train here in the meantime. On the View,

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Speaker 2: where I think you can go to get the most

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Speaker 2: how do we how do we say this gently or

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Speaker 2: kindly the low information Democrat voter talking points right, I

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Speaker 2: think the View is probably the single the place you

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Speaker 2: can go in daytime TV to get.

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Speaker 1: And I would say ninety percent probably female viewership. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine there's very many men that are watching the.

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Speaker 2: View on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 1: So this is where low information female voters would overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: get their information on politics.

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Speaker 2: And Hillary Clinton, remember her, Shaye was going to be

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Speaker 2: Remember back in the day, Hillary Clinton is gonna win

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Speaker 2: ninety seven percent, the New York Times said, and then

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Speaker 2: oh she ended up not winning. She was on the

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Speaker 2: View though, and this goes to what you're gonna You're

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Speaker 2: gonna hear the machinery of crazy from the Democrats start

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Speaker 2: to rev up more and more in the months ahead.

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Speaker 2: Here is I think an example of the kind of rhetoric.

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Speaker 2: While we're sitting around and talking about how, you know,

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Speaker 2: we we think that, uh, you know, we don't want

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Speaker 2: to be too harsh sometimes in our criticism on the right,

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Speaker 2: or we're we're wondering, you know what the best way

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Speaker 2: to message is. They're basically saying, yeah, your guys, almost

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Speaker 2: like Hitler, here is the view and Hillary Clinton Hitler was.

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Speaker 3: Duly elected right right, and so all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: somebody with those tendencies, though dictatorial authoritarian tendencies, would be like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna shut this down. We're gonna throw these people

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Speaker 3: in jail. And they didn't usually telegraph that Trump is

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Speaker 3: the man means to throw people in jail who disagree

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Speaker 2: Okay, first off, it's a good thing Hillary is not

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Speaker 2: a historian. Hitler definitely telegraphs a lot of the things

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Speaker 2: that the horrible things he was planning on doing. You know,

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Speaker 2: he was people were well aware of many of not

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Speaker 2: all of but many of his tendencies. But beyond that,

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Speaker 2: this notion that we're going to now go into another

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Speaker 2: Trump is a fascist, where we're going to be hearing

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Speaker 2: people say that Donald Trump wants to end democracy from

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Speaker 2: him in prison to prevent a vote on whether he

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Speaker 2: This craziness is coming.

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Speaker 1: Everything that Hillary said is actually directly apropos to what

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is doing right now, and she hasn't said

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Speaker 1: a word to my knowledge of criticism against it. And

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Speaker 1: the idea that you would accuse Donald Trump of similarities

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Speaker 1: loyalists that are defending Hamas, which just engaged in the

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Speaker 1: most deadly attack upon Jewish people since the Holocaust, the

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Speaker 1: comparison of Trump in any way to Hitler was always broken.

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Speaker 1: But when the Democrat Party is in the midst of

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Speaker 1: making excuses for Hamas and also making excuses for all

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Speaker 1: the rabid anti Semitism that we're seeing on so many

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Speaker 1: college campuses, it feels perniciously tone deaf to be making

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Speaker 1: that argument right now, even worse than it was for

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Speaker 1: that Trump was in office. If anything, the analogy to

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Speaker 1: to say that Trump is going to be an authoritarian president,

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Speaker 1: then that's at least an argument you can make. The

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Speaker 1: reality is everything Democrats told you that Trump was going

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Speaker 2: And he had the biggest opening, as we've discussed before,

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Speaker 2: Trump when he was president a certainly the biggest opening

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Speaker 2: without necessarily using the word. The COVID lockdowns could have

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Speaker 2: if he had been of that mindset, given how hysterical

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Speaker 2: people were, given how to have terrified people were. But instead,

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Speaker 2: the Trump response to the biggest opening to be a

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Speaker 2: tyrant that we've seen certainly in our lifetimes was let's

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Speaker 2: see where the data takes us. Let's states make their

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Speaker 2: month by month. So the stuff about Trump as a

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Speaker 2: have to remember Democrats not only they don't have a

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Speaker 2: They're complaining that Trump, if he wins, would lock up

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Speaker 2: his political opponents, as they are actively trying to lock

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Speaker 2: we're not supposed to notice this.

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Speaker 1: And it's disappointing that the View is a stupid show,

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Speaker 1: But it's more disappointing that no one on the View

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Speaker 1: that to Trump right now, Hillary, what are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that? Because that would be a far more interesting

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Speaker 1: and engaging conversation to me. And yes, COVID was the

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Speaker 1: ultimate litmus test. That's why we started off the show

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Speaker 1: with me saying that I'm upset that Kentucky didn't hold

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Speaker 1: Governor Basher accountable for failures during COVID because ultimately, if

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Speaker 1: you're an incumbent president, you should be judged on the

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Speaker 1: job that you did. And Andy Basheer failed the most

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Speaker 1: significant test that any governor had in most of our

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Speaker 1: you're just going to give a pass to your governor

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Speaker 1: because you were so wrong yourself on COVID that you

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Speaker 1: pretended didn't exist. But Kentucky buck is surrounded by states

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Speaker 1: which all gave their citizens far more freedom. I lived

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Speaker 1: the charts. And the fact that they allowed that to

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Speaker 1: have him talking trash. Here's Andy Basheer dunking on Mitch

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Speaker 2: Victory. That sends a loud, clear message, a.

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Speaker 4: Message the candidates should run for something and not against someone,

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Speaker 4: that a candidate should show vision and not so division,

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Speaker 4: and a clear statement that anger politics should end right

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Speaker 4: here and right now. Just look at what we were

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Speaker 4: up against. Five superpacks, my opponent's super Pac, Mitch McConnell's

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Speaker 4: super pack, Ran Paul super.

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Speaker 4: Republican Governor's Association, all running ads full of hate and division,

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Speaker 2: Isn't funny that leftists are generally malcontents who despise the

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Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton basically comparing Donald Trump to Hitler, and then

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Speaker 2: they go out and they give speeches about how we

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Speaker 1: Wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, division is bad. They're really comfortable with hate, and

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Speaker 2: have the government take all their stuff. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's some things where you'd think we could start to

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Speaker 1: I would like to hear. I mean, I just genuinely

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Speaker 1: wonder how it happens. Trump is going to if he's

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Speaker 1: a nominee and we're going to talk to him about

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes, he's going to win the state of

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Speaker 1: Kentucky by around thirty points. That means there are probably

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of Kentuckians that are going to vote

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Speaker 1: for Trump and Andy Basheer.

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Speaker 2: Well, the turnout was low, right, I mean, so a

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Speaker 2: big problem here is it's an off year election, so

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Speaker 2: a lot of Republicans just didn't show up. And the

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Speaker 2: McConnell machine in Kentucky isn't what it isn't what it

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Speaker 2: used to be. I mean, McConnell isn't what it used

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Speaker 1: But I mean a ram Paul wins big in the

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Speaker 1: most recent Senate race in Kentucky, Trump is gonna win

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Speaker 1: by thirty I genuinely wonder who the people are that

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Speaker 1: I really like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: They're nothing at all similar.

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Speaker 1: And so how in the world do you cast a

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Speaker 1: vote for both of those guys, I just don't understand

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Speaker 2: You have you know, West Virginia Senator Joe Manchell.

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Speaker 1: Joe Man has been in office forever, so that makes

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Speaker 1: a little bit more sense Andy, And I know Andy

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Speaker 1: Basheer is like the red estate in the country after Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't how much sense it really well.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show appreciate all

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to answer your question on the debate here

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Speaker 1: Literally voted for every Republican except governor. I just I

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Speaker 2: So they clearly didn't care very much about that. These voters.

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Speaker 1: That's why that's the message that has been sent on this.

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Speaker 2: To listen to this.

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Speaker 5: Get your contacts, they can get your fun antel information,

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Speaker 5: they can get your emails, they can just say messages.

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Speaker 5: This is exactly what they're This is very important.

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Speaker 1: And one thing I will say, Nicky Haley came off

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in team. I believe we have somebody on

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Speaker 2: but also for Bashir to be governor, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: you want to hear this right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm serious. I don't understand how this is possible.

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Speaker 2: Brad in Kentucky, you are on Clay's hot seat here, sir.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Hi?

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Speaker 6: Gentlemen, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Actually, uh, Basher kind of he got my support

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Speaker 6: when we had the severe tornadoes that covered most of

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Speaker 6: I actually I'm to a point where I want to

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Okay, So who would you

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that that sociate that. So Trump is going

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Speaker 1: to win your state, Kentucky by around thirty points, Butsher

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Speaker 6: Yeah, actually on my ticket yesterday and the only Democrat

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I was.

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Speaker 2: They're listening to us right now.

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Speaker 1: Buck, There's around one hundred thousand people who voted a

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Speaker 8: Only twenty five percent of poll respondents say that he

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Speaker 8: does have the stamina.

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Speaker 2: Seventy four percent say no.

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Speaker 8: Biden is down there between Donald Trump and Jimmy Carter.

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Speaker 8: You may know that is down in the category of

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Speaker 8: one term presidents.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Clay, I want to dive into our analysis this,

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Speaker 2: but I think this is really important. The country assured

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Speaker 2: on Biden. Biden's numbers are low. He's mentioned Jimmy Carter,

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Speaker 2: He's along with them. So because this is where I

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Speaker 2: know people start saying it's not going to be Biden. Well,

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Speaker 2: what do the Democrats think is going to turn things around.

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Speaker 2: Here is David Axelrod saying what we've been telling everybody here,

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Speaker 2: which is that this isn't about making Biden better. He's

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Speaker 2: just gonna keep being Biden and actually deteriorating, getting worse.

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Speaker 2: This is about the all out across the board propaganda

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Speaker 2: onslaught against Donald Trump. They're planning to wage along with

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Speaker 2: the legal warfare. The lawfair that they planned a wage

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Speaker 2: against Donald Trump. Here's David Axelrod on why Democrats have

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Speaker 2: hope even though Joe Biden is where he is right now,

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Speaker 2: it's twenty.

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Speaker 9: The difference here is that he isn't running against Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 9: He's not running against some fresh face. He's running against

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump. And that's what gives him hope. And I

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Speaker 9: think the only.

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Speaker 2: Other person at that low level close to that low.

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Speaker 9: I mean, his numbers are are are are equally that

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Speaker 9: though on you know, in other polling and and and

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Speaker 9: some here there are comparatives, as we talked about earlier

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Speaker 9: on this, you know, foreign leadership question so on that

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Speaker 9: are that are discouraging.

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Speaker 2: But you know the game rock paper scissors, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course, rock paper scissors and so you gotta you know,

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Speaker 2: rock loses to and scissors meats paper. It seems to

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Speaker 2: me that there's a pretty large contingent of the GOP

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Speaker 2: that believes that Donald Trump is the the one to

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Speaker 2: defeat Biden, while simultaneously Democrats believe Joe Biden is the

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Speaker 2: one to defeat Donald Trump. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like like they're choosing their champion based on the perception

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Speaker 2: of how he'll do against this one opponent on the

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Speaker 2: other side, without obviously the primary even being determined. And

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden a lot of people still think isn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: going to be the guy. I think he will be

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Speaker 2: the guy. But it's like this is the matchup somehow

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Speaker 2: that both sides think they will win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the reason why Democrats think they will win

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Speaker 1: is because they won in twenty twenty. Here's why I

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Speaker 1: think they would lose if the election were happening today.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, first question, giving you a little

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Speaker 1: bit of preview, and we have Trump on in about

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes, I'm just directly asking does he really think

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to be the nominee? And if

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Speaker 1: not Biden, how does he think Democrats end up with

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Speaker 1: a different nominee because I think that's a big question

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Speaker 1: that is looming out there that many of you have

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Speaker 1: questions about. By the way, if you're a VIP and

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Speaker 1: you want to send us questions that you would like

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Speaker 1: to have Donald Trump answer, our executive producer Ali is

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Speaker 1: here with us at mar Lago. She will see all

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Speaker 1: those emails rolling in and she will pop some of

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Speaker 1: those to us to make sure in the event that

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Speaker 1: we weren't going to ask those questions if a lot

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Speaker 1: of you are wanting the same kind of questions to

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Speaker 1: be answered, Buck, I think the biggest difference for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four is in twenty twenty, people didn't really know

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Speaker 1: what to expect as Joe Biden was president, and his

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Speaker 1: favorability ratings because they ran him as Grandpa Joe, they

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Speaker 1: hit him in the basement. His favorability ratings were substantially

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Speaker 1: above Trump's. You just heard that CNN report thirty nine

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Speaker 1: percent approval, Seventy four percent of Americans say Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the stamina to be president seventy four percent.

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Speaker 1: It's it's hard to get seventy four percent of Americans

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Speaker 1: to agree on anything, right now. And what I would

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Speaker 1: say is devastating for Joe Biden is if you're eighty,

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Speaker 1: you don't suddenly go into cocoon and turn into a

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Speaker 1: fifty five year old and change all of those expectations

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Speaker 1: about you. The fact that Joe Biden can't get off

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Speaker 1: a stage is not going to suddenly get better a

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Speaker 1: year from now than it is right now. And I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to have an incredible difficulty running this

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Speaker 1: weekend at Bernie's two style campaign where they just hide

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Speaker 1: him in a basement.

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Speaker 2: But again, they'll point to the polling that we saw

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Speaker 2: that shows if there's a conviction of Trump, there's a

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Speaker 2: huge problem at least based on the numbers as of

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Speaker 2: today in those swing states. It's not that they think

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Speaker 2: they can elevate Joe Biden to being better than he is.

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Speaker 2: It's that they believe that they can drag Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: down so low that it won't really matter who Biden is, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the strategy, which is pretty Do you

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Speaker 2: buy it?

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Speaker 1: Because I just have come increasingly when I look at

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Speaker 1: the data we talked about yesterday that Democrats were testing

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Speaker 1: anti Trump campaign ads related to his legal difficulties, and

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Speaker 1: they actually.

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Speaker 2: Were boomeranging in Trump's favor.

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Speaker 1: I tend to think that all of this legal machination

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Speaker 1: is basically a black hole in that people have made

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Speaker 1: their minds up, and I really don't believe if Jack

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Speaker 1: Smith suddenly gets a conviction on something that people believe

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Speaker 1: as one hundred percent of politically motivated case, I don't

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Speaker 1: really think that we're going to see some massive swing

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Speaker 1: in public opinion on Trump or Biden.

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Speaker 2: This is what I believe is the massive miscalculation. We

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Speaker 2: discussed this earlier in the week in twenty sixteen. The

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Speaker 2: calculation was run Trump rallies on liberal networks because it's

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Speaker 2: such a clown show, there's no way he'll ever be president.

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Speaker 2: You get the free ratings. Massive mistake, and then we

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Speaker 2: had President Trump with his big victory against Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 2: This time around, the thinking seems to be, we're going

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Speaker 2: to cover him with so many lawsuits, We're gonna hit

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Speaker 2: him from so many sides legally, that it will be

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Speaker 2: impossible for him to focus on the campaign, and we'll

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Speaker 2: turn off independent and swing state voters because he's a

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Speaker 2: convicted or even just an accused felon right, I mean

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Speaker 2: a lot of times with prosecutors. The first big decision

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Speaker 2: to destroy somebody is to even bring the indictment. Right.

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Speaker 2: You know, ask anybody who's ever been charged with something

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Speaker 2: they didn't do that was a felony. When you find

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Speaker 2: out you're indicted, your whole life changes. They thought that

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Speaker 2: would drag Trump down, and it has actually gone in

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Speaker 2: the opposite direction now I know. And we had Anye

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Speaker 2: McCarthy on who said this, and there are many to

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Speaker 2: say this, Well, yeah, that's true. Now in the primary,

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Speaker 2: what will it do in the general. We're getting close

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Speaker 2: enough to the general where I mean, I'm not seeing

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Speaker 2: I'm not seeing the indicators. You would that this would

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Speaker 2: be the magic bullet that the Democrats believe it is.

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Speaker 2: That's right, the X factor that they thought that that

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Speaker 2: would be enough with Joe Biden. So and the timing

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Speaker 2: obviously matters with all this too. I mean I think

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Speaker 2: that if this I think if the Democrats right now,

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Speaker 2: if their mentality was the same now six months ago,

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Speaker 2: they would have tried to do something, maybe with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Like I think that they've panicked, that's real, But the

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Speaker 2: panic is so late that I still think Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: the guy. And I thought he's the guy all along.

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Speaker 2: They didn't prepare, They didn't know this would happen.

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Speaker 1: If we had told Democrats that the New York Times

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Speaker 1: would have them down in five of the six swing

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Speaker 1: states one year out from the election. If we had

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Speaker 1: told them that a year ago, I think they would

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Speaker 1: have said, you guys are crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's no way the numbers are going to do that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back into this, and remember we got former

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Speaker 1: there starting to discuss in earnest whether Joe Biden and

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Speaker 1: should or should not run in twenty twenty four. And

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Speaker 1: you know it's becoming a topic of conversation when late

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Speaker 1: night comedy hosts are taking shots at Joe Biden. Here

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Speaker 1: is Jimmy Kimmel talking about calls for Joe Biden to

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Speaker 1: drop out.

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Speaker 7: I mentioned last night that a New York Times poll

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Speaker 7: has President Biden trailing future incarcerria Donald Trump in five

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Speaker 7: key battleground states, and with the election less than a

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Speaker 7: should let someone else cop the ticket in twenty four

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Speaker 7: The calls for Joe Biden to drop out are getting louder.

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Speaker 7: But that could just be because he can't hear them.

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Speaker 1: Ah, because he's so old he cannot hear Jimmy Kimmel jokes.

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Speaker 1: But I do think while they're taking shots at Trump

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Speaker 1: as a part of that, the fact that Biden's status, stature,

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Speaker 1: and frankly inability to do the job has become a

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Speaker 1: topic of national discourse, even on late night shows, even

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Speaker 1: on SNL buck They're cold open. Recently was Biden trying

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Speaker 1: to climb a ladder and the fear that he wasn't

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Speaker 2: Climb the ladder around Halloween. This is where we are.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My concern is that they're getting this out of the

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Speaker 2: way a bit so that it's it's like they will

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Speaker 2: have gone through this this catharsis of Okay, he's really old. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's not our best, but he's facing and

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Speaker 2: we'll be talking to Trump here in a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: The greatest threat to democracy in the history of our country,

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Speaker 2: and they are going to unleash all of these different campaigns,

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Speaker 2: all the videos, all the social media, all the stuff,

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Speaker 2: all the advantages that they have in some of these

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Speaker 2: key states in terms of organizing and funding and everything else.

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Speaker 2: It really, for me comes back to the possibility that

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Speaker 2: this is going to be something like the Fetterment effect,

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Speaker 2: where remember John Fetterman, I believe one independent voters in

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Speaker 2: the state of Pennsylvania. If I'm wrong on that, someone correctly,

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Speaker 2: but I believe in his race against doctor Oz. So

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Speaker 2: it's not just like the Democrat turnout machine did so well,

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Speaker 2: although they do have a party registration advantage and do

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Speaker 2: have early voting better in Pennsylvania than we do. But

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Speaker 2: on top of that, Fetterman was able to create this

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Speaker 2: a TV star and a millionaire doctor who. Okay, people

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Speaker 2: have their concerns about how conservative he was, fine, but

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Speaker 2: they went with Fetterman. And and you know, Fetterman is

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Speaker 2: now a city United States senator. So I still think

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Speaker 2: the people that call in Clay and they say that

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Speaker 2: it's all about you know. They said, like, it'll be

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Speaker 2: Michelle Obama and it'll be the convention, and they'll do

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Speaker 2: this big switch because they want it to be Obama's

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Speaker 2: fourth term. If you think of Biden as Obama's third

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Speaker 2: term or no, you just keep Biden where he is.

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Speaker 2: The idea is he doesn't really do very much. He's

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Speaker 2: a figurehead. To your point, you want Obama's fourth term,

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Speaker 2: you keep Biden in place because the third term becomes

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Speaker 2: the fourth term.

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Speaker 1: The scary thing, and you've made this argument is that

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Speaker 1: we may be in a world where the president doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter because the apparatus surrounding the president keeps things on

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Speaker 1: the track.

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Speaker 2: From a Democrat, I believe very strongly that that is

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Speaker 2: the that is the truth of what's going on in

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Speaker 2: this White House day in and day out. And I

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Speaker 2: think that it's it's like one of these medieval kingdoms

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Speaker 2: where the king is really just shuffled out occasionally for

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Speaker 2: ceremonial purposes. But you know, the the mayor of the palace,

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Speaker 2: or you know, the hand of the king for the

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Speaker 2: game of Thrones fans is the one who's actually doing

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Speaker 2: this stuff, and I think that's why Democrats are are

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Speaker 2: very comfortable they'll get they'll get the turnout that they

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Speaker 2: need and that their machinery will work as it always does,

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Speaker 2: because there's really not an expectation that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 2: going to be doing that much in the first place.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there really was all along, other than

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Speaker 2: giving the occasional speech. So they don't care that he's deteriorating.

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Speaker 2: They don't care that. And as I said along, I

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Speaker 2: also believe that the Biden legacy is going to be

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Speaker 2: in their minds and this is Joe Biden. This is

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Speaker 2: why Joe Biden won't step aside that he will essentially

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Speaker 2: pass the torch to the first black female president and

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, and that that's the whole game here, that

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Speaker 2: is the plan and in office, meaning she doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to run. Yeah, he doesn't even finish the term.

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Speaker 1: I think that Joe Biden is the weakest candidate that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats can put forward. I know he's the incumbent.

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Speaker 1: I hope that he is the candidate, I really do.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why I got to stake bet with

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Speaker 1: you and will ask President Trump what he thinks about

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Speaker 1: this in just a few moments. Is because I just

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Speaker 1: think they can't possibly buck Seventy four percent of Americans

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Speaker 1: say he doesn't have the stamina to be president.

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Speaker 2: It's, like I said, hard to.

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Speaker 1: Get seventy four percent of Americans to agree like Hamas's

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Speaker 1: is evil and seventy four percent of Americans agree that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden can't do the job. I just feel like

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Speaker 1: the fix is in somewhere. I don't know how they

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Speaker 1: do it, but I feel like the fix is in.

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Speaker 2: I just think they're going to They're hoping that they're

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Speaker 2: going to look at the choice here. And it's what

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Speaker 2: David Axelrod said. The hope of the Democrats is that

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Speaker 2: they can do the anti Trump thing and that's it,

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Speaker 2: and that's everything, and so it won't really matter who

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Speaker 2: the candidate is. But we'll talk to Donald Trump in

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Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes.