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Speaker 1: join us coming up in about twenty minutes from now.
Speaker 1: A few things to talk to Reggie about, including Damian Lillard.
Speaker 1: Does he want out of Portland? Does he want others
Speaker 1: to say that he wants out of Portland? Either way,
Speaker 1: the Blazers better be listening because if you read between
Speaker 1: the lines, feels like Damian Lillard once out of Portland.
Speaker 1: It's been an interesting week for Team USA men's basketball.
Speaker 1: They lost Bradley Beale because of COVID, Kevin Love dropped out.
Speaker 1: They added JaVale McGee and Kelden Johnson. Not exactly dream teamers,
Speaker 1: but they needed a big guy and JaVale McGhee does
Speaker 1: some silly things on the court at times, but he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of length. He's one couple of titles here.
Speaker 1: As for Kelton Johnson, it's okay to admit and you
Speaker 1: never heard of him. He's a twenty one year old
Speaker 1: forward who plays for the Spurs. And keep in mind,
Speaker 1: Team USA still has Durant Lillard Jason Tatum. Other countries
Speaker 1: would love to be dealing with the same difficulties Team
Speaker 1: USA has had. But despite those losses to Nigeria and Australia,
Speaker 1: America is still figures to be the heavy heavy, heavy
Speaker 1: favorites to win a gold medal. They beat Spain last
Speaker 1: night and now they go to Tokyo. So we'll talk
Speaker 1: to reg about all things NBA basketball coming up. Let's
Speaker 1: see update the pull results there, Todd, if you can
Speaker 1: which athlete stock would you invest in today? Show Hey
Speaker 1: thirty seven percent, Trevor Lawrence, It's twenty six percent, Markawa,
Speaker 1: twenty five percent, Colin more Kawa winning the Open Championship.
Speaker 1: You're not even twenty five Showhyo, Tani, you got Yannas now, like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of young players doing some pretty amazing things.
Speaker 1: If I was going to invest in Showhy, it would
Speaker 1: have been last year. It would have been the year
Speaker 1: before that. It would have been when he was just
Speaker 1: coming over to the United States. But he had another
Speaker 1: home run yesterday. But you're looking, you know, like justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: you'd invest in that if he was his stock. But
Speaker 1: it feels like, you know, with what more Kala did,
Speaker 1: what Jannis is doing. And you know, because Jannis has
Speaker 1: got two MVPs and he's on the verge of winning
Speaker 1: a title. There's only a couple of players in the
Speaker 1: history of the sport who've accomplished that by this age,
Speaker 1: by the age of twenty six. I think Bill Russell
Speaker 1: was in there, Tim Duncan is in there, Lebron was
Speaker 1: close to doing it. But this is Yannis right now
Speaker 1: doing something and you know, stepping up in a big
Speaker 1: moment with his season performance. Because we've seen where great
Speaker 1: during the regular season, and I always maintain that they
Speaker 1: were a great regular season team. They're built for a
Speaker 1: regular season. They were not built for a seven game series.
Speaker 1: Just weren't. They've made a lot of good moves here,
Speaker 1: Mike Budenholzer, who's been criticized and rightfully so, for some
Speaker 1: of the moves in previous postseasons, even this year's postseason,
Speaker 1: but he's made some moves here. Now it's up to
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns to try and to counter and as
Speaker 1: great as Jannis is. There was something he said over
Speaker 1: the weekend that I loved hearing, And you know, I
Speaker 1: sometimes you listen because you're a journalist, you're a sports announcer.
Speaker 1: Other times I listen as a parent, Like I'll listen
Speaker 1: to somebody and what they say or how they say it,
Speaker 1: or how they conduct themselves. You know, I was very
Speaker 1: critical Bryson Deshambo, who's around the age of my son,
Speaker 1: and I thought that he was a little child, he
Speaker 1: was a baby, didn't get his way, he threw a
Speaker 1: temper tantrum. Then you listening to Colin more Kawa after
Speaker 1: winning the Open championship, it sounded like he was thirty five,
Speaker 1: not twenty five. But what Janna said over the weekend
Speaker 1: really stood out, like this is about staying humble, and
Speaker 1: this is what he had to say from my experience,
Speaker 1: right like when I think about like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: did this, you know, I'm so great. I had thirty,
Speaker 1: I had twenty five, ten and ten or whatever the
Speaker 1: case might be. Because you're gonna think about that or
Speaker 1: we want this and that. Usually the next day you're
Speaker 1: gonna suck, you know, simple as that. You like the
Speaker 1: next few days you're gonna be terrible. And uh, I
Speaker 1: figured out like a mindset to have that, Like when
Speaker 1: you focus on the past, that's your ego. I did this,
Speaker 1: you know, um we were able to you know, beat
Speaker 1: this team. For all we did. I did this in
Speaker 1: the past. I want that in the past and for
Speaker 1: in the future. Is my pride, Like yeah, next game,
Speaker 1: game five, I do this and this and this. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm going down and that's your pride tale Like it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen like you're right here. And I kind of
Speaker 1: like tried to focus in the you know, in the moment,
Speaker 1: in the present. And that's humility that's been humbled, that's
Speaker 1: not setting no expectation. That's going out there enjoying the game,
Speaker 1: competing a high level. And I think I've had people
Speaker 1: throughout my life that helped me that. But that's a
Speaker 1: skill that I've tried to like perfect it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mastered it, and it's been working so far. That's a
Speaker 1: wonderful answer dealing with being in the moment. Don't talk
Speaker 1: about what you did. I mean at that age, come
Speaker 1: over here and do what he's doing, how he's done it,
Speaker 1: how he's improved. It's easy to criticize his free throw shooting,
Speaker 1: and I have because at some point somebody has to
Speaker 1: help him with just the rhythm of a free throw.
Speaker 1: But he is so close to perfection. I don't need
Speaker 1: him to shoot threes. But if he's a seventy five
Speaker 1: percent free throw shooter, who it's gonna be some long
Speaker 1: nights for NBA players dealing with him. But keep in mind,
Speaker 1: you come over to the United States. We didn't know
Speaker 1: what he was, we didn't know who he was, and
Speaker 1: he made himself better every year. So will he get
Speaker 1: better as a free throw shooter. I hope, But he's
Speaker 1: got to get a rhythm down, and it starts from
Speaker 1: your legs moving up and then a nice smooth release.
Speaker 1: I don't need him to shoot threes, because put him
Speaker 1: anywhere else on the floor, he's going to score. But
Speaker 1: the free throw shooting, if he gets that to the
Speaker 1: point where you can't do the hacker shack, then there's
Speaker 1: no way you can stop him because and maybe he'll
Speaker 1: get that. If you get the free throw down, you
Speaker 1: should be able to get that fifteen to eighteen foot
Speaker 1: shot down because if they back off you, you don't
Speaker 1: have to have a jumper. You just have to have
Speaker 1: them respect that shot. Then it makes you even more dangerous.
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's a great success story with the
Speaker 1: NBA and the Milwaukee Bucks. And he chose to stay there.
Speaker 1: And then they made the trade for Drew Holiday, and
Speaker 1: they gave up a lot for Holiday. And Holiday is
Speaker 1: supposed to be really good and supposed to be a
Speaker 1: really good defender. That last game was career defining for him.
Speaker 1: Now you got to do it one more time. But
Speaker 1: because Janis stayed, they got Holiday, Chris Middleton has emerged,
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez, Conaton. You have some players who are doing
Speaker 1: some really impressive things for the Bucks. Because the Greek
Speaker 1: freak will not win this by himself. But when you
Speaker 1: have that team effort, and if you if you look
Speaker 1: at the Suns, you go, well, you got Aid and
Speaker 1: Chris Paul and Devin Booker. But the role players, the
Speaker 1: bench players, that's where I think that they've lacked. And
Speaker 1: I think that's where Milwaukee has taken advantage of the
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns. But if you have a big lead like
Speaker 1: they did, no like Milwaukee was trailing by sixteen points,
Speaker 1: the biggest comeback in an NBA Finals game since the
Speaker 1: twenty twelve Game four Finals, when the Miami heat rallied
Speaker 1: from seventeen down. Sounded like a stat of the day.
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Speaker 1: you're talking about Janie's development. His first year in the league,
Speaker 1: he was nineteen. He averaged seven points and four rebounds.
Speaker 1: He didn't make an All Star tea until his fourth
Speaker 1: year in the league. His second year average twelve and seventeen.
Speaker 1: Then he kind of went crazy. But just to compare it,
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson at the same age average twenty three points
Speaker 1: in his second years, Zion's averaging twenty seven and Yannis
Speaker 1: the second year he is everaging twelve. Yeah, you almost
Speaker 1: sleep on how quickly Zion's become a score. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: I but if you said, who would you rather have
Speaker 1: Yannis or Zion? Right, yeah, and you might have people say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I like Zion if he develops that three
Speaker 1: point shot and then you're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to stop him inside. What Yannis does defensively, I mean
Speaker 1: just that that alone is value. I mean it might
Speaker 1: be the you know, one, two, three top defenders in
Speaker 1: the league, but he just so long and covers up
Speaker 1: so much territory in there. Now you add the offense,
Speaker 1: and he's getting better with his offense. Kawhi Leonard was
Speaker 1: a defensive player. When he first got to San Antonio,
Speaker 1: he wasn't known as a score and then he developed
Speaker 1: and he got better. He added to his game, and
Speaker 1: that's what you love. Like these next two or three
Speaker 1: years for Zion, the next two or three years for Luca,
Speaker 1: what are you doing with your game? What are you
Speaker 1: doing differently? How much better are you Because there will
Speaker 1: be players that just level out and that's it, and
Speaker 1: you wonder if they're going to get better. Like I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for Anthony Davis to be unstoppable. I want him
Speaker 1: to be consistently unstoppable. Now he has shown pockets, but
Speaker 1: he's got to stay healthier. He got to truly commit
Speaker 1: to his body and invest in it, literally invest in
Speaker 1: it to say I'm going to take it to the
Speaker 1: next level. Because you know this is the escalator. Lebron
Speaker 1: is coming down. Anthony Davis should be going up and
Speaker 1: maybe they meet somewhere. Maybe a d is already moving
Speaker 1: up past Lebron. But Lebron can't be in better shape
Speaker 1: than you. And he's ten years older. West in Indiana,
Speaker 1: best and worst of the weekend? West, what do you
Speaker 1: have for me? Hey? Dan? The first time all time
Speaker 1: five nine, two ten. Uh, didn't have the worst of
Speaker 1: the weekend, but my best of the weekend. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: got to travel up to Michigan and see my grandma
Speaker 1: who is ninety seven for the first time since COVID.
Speaker 1: So that was wonderful. And uh, I know it's been
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you guys are talking about the
Speaker 1: frisbee drinking game earlier. Yeah. Um, around here, we have
Speaker 1: a couple of names for it. We call it either
Speaker 1: beersbee or frizbeer. Oh okay, and uh suck it back row,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you West. Well, it's only Fritzie back there. Wow.
Speaker 1: McLevin is in Iceland? Is it cold in Iceland? Now?
Speaker 1: He's wearing a like a down jacket right now in
Speaker 1: a hat in the picture he sent, Yes, Don is
Speaker 1: he gonna send that he like, where's Waldo? Where's mcleven picture?
Speaker 1: Does that be kind of fun in the middle of
Speaker 1: the mountains and all those houses to see where his
Speaker 1: little face is somewhere? Yeah. See, people in la are
Speaker 1: also wearing that same outfit, so you really can't tell
Speaker 1: why Russell he oh remember that one came in hat,
Speaker 1: puffy jacket, flip flops and flip flops, and I went,
Speaker 1: welcome to La. Hey. You know it gets cold that
Speaker 1: marine layer in the morning. I go, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I take that temperature all day long come wintertime on
Speaker 1: the East coast. Let's see Marco in Arizona. Hey, Marco, Hey,
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick's show real quick. I wanted to get to
Speaker 1: the Ramones topic just because this one a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know. The Ramones copied there sound from a
Speaker 1: band from Detroit. Actually it's an all black band that
Speaker 1: played punk music called Death. A band called Death. There's
Speaker 1: a documentary on them and it's fantastic seat and I
Speaker 1: think you would love it. But my best of the
Speaker 1: weekend was Nicia tates Win. I know you guys don't
Speaker 1: talk a lot of MMA, but her backstory on her
Speaker 1: brain injury, on her recovery, is pretty awesome. So her
Speaker 1: win was pretty big. And then obviously the worst the
Speaker 1: sun's dropping the ball. You know, hopefully they can rally back,
Speaker 1: but you know, come on, Valley, we got a rally.
Speaker 1: We got to do this, all right, Marco, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm not aware of that band or that documentary, but like,
Speaker 1: I'm not down on the Ramones. I'm just not up
Speaker 1: on the Ramones. I gotta you know, if the music
Speaker 1: comes on and be like whatever, it's too late, right,
Speaker 1: they already know that I don't like the Ramones. Doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what I say, right, And I don't know that
Speaker 1: at this point you're gonna like rediscover and be like whoa,
Speaker 1: now I get it. I'm not no, I know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's all right. You shouldn't feel pressured to
Speaker 1: like the Ramones. Thank you. See, we'll take a break.
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Speaker 1: six will be tomorrow night in Milwaukee as the Bucks
Speaker 1: try to close out the Phoenix Suns up three games
Speaker 1: to two. We bring in the Hall of Famer Turner
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Redge, how are you now working? We just
Speaker 1: a week ago, seven days ago, when it was two
Speaker 1: nothing Phoenix Suns. Everyone in Milwaukee thought it was over.
Speaker 1: Everyone was dwot ready to get rid of coats, booten Holzer,
Speaker 1: Javist was going to be a forever choke artist. Now
Speaker 1: now they are on the verge of winning in India Championship,
Speaker 1: their first in what fifty plus years? What a week
Speaker 1: makes right? And didn't you and I talk about? Well,
Speaker 1: Phoenix did what they had to do, They secured their
Speaker 1: home court advantage, went back to Milwaukee. That's what Milwaukee did.
Speaker 1: But Milwaukee went on the road, got Game five and
Speaker 1: is in total control of this series. You expect Milwaukee
Speaker 1: to win Tuesday night? I do unless and there's one
Speaker 1: caveat because we have not really seen that this series.
Speaker 1: Chris Paul hasn't had a signature game yet, and I
Speaker 1: think we're all waiting on that. Booker has been great,
Speaker 1: But the other half of that equation is Chris Paul.
Speaker 1: He had signature moments versus the Lakers, versus Denver games
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, and versus the Clippers. There was always
Speaker 1: one game he had where he was phenomenal. Game six.
Speaker 1: It has to be that for him. If not, then
Speaker 1: this series is over. I mentioned last week that by Thursday,
Speaker 1: we're either going to be talking about Jannis and getting
Speaker 1: two MVPs in a title at this age, which is
Speaker 1: really really rare in the history of the sport, or
Speaker 1: will probably be talking about Chris Paul finally elevating himself
Speaker 1: into a different category as a point guard. I know
Speaker 1: Devin Booker will be the MVP of Phoenix wins and
Speaker 1: Yannis will be the MVP if the Milwaukee Bucks win,
Speaker 1: but do you think those are still are we going
Speaker 1: to be Is that fair to Chris Paul. If let's
Speaker 1: say the Phoenix Suns lose this, are we going to
Speaker 1: look at Chris Paul as opposed to the rest of
Speaker 1: the team. Monnie Williams. Should it all be on Chris
Speaker 1: Paul that Hey, didn't get it done again, you led
Speaker 1: two games to none with home court advantage at thirty No,
Speaker 1: I think Chris Paul will probably get a pass because
Speaker 1: of his age and because of the hard docks. It
Speaker 1: has taken Chris Paul to even get to the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this will be his last look
Speaker 1: at it, but he will get a long pass because
Speaker 1: of the signature games along the way. I think people
Speaker 1: will remember those more as opposed to he just hasn't
Speaker 1: played great here in the finals and there's still time
Speaker 1: for him again. I think he needs to put a
Speaker 1: stamp and have a signature thirty plus twelve assists, but
Speaker 1: impactful points like he had versus the Clippers in that
Speaker 1: close out game, like he had against Denver in that
Speaker 1: close out game. Those close out games, he was phenomenal
Speaker 1: and we just haven't seen that. And I give all
Speaker 1: the credit to Drew Holliday, PJ. Tucker, Pat Connington. Those
Speaker 1: three guys have been the principal defenders on CP three
Speaker 1: and they've done a great job of really just locking
Speaker 1: him down. Yeah, my point that I've been making is that.
Speaker 1: I know we want to focus on the stars, but
Speaker 1: it's the role players. You can go down through history.
Speaker 1: You can have great players. There's a role player who
Speaker 1: does something, whether it's baseball football, like Malcolm Butler with
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Nobody had heard of him. You know. You
Speaker 1: get a role player like John Paxon or Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: who hits a big shot. You can have star power.
Speaker 1: It's what kind of contributions am I getting. It feels
Speaker 1: like Milwaukee has depth that they can rely on, and
Speaker 1: Montie Williams isn't sure what he has with Phoenix. And
Speaker 1: I mentioned Pat Connington, but people are not talking in
Speaker 1: a Bobby Cortise Jr. He has been fantastic throughout these playoffs,
Speaker 1: barely sniffed the floor in that Brooklyn series at all,
Speaker 1: and then comes back in Atlanta and has a huge,
Speaker 1: huge impact because of the injury t Honist and has
Speaker 1: been fantastic in the finals here. And you're right, I
Speaker 1: think Coach Budd and the Bucks they have more luxury
Speaker 1: because of their bench, and I think the injury to
Speaker 1: shariche has has hurt Phoenix. Tory Craig has not been
Speaker 1: the same since he went down with the leg injury.
Speaker 1: I know he's played since then, but he hasn't been
Speaker 1: the same. But look, I'm not going to count Phoenix
Speaker 1: out because they've been fantastic on the road all postseason.
Speaker 1: I think coming into the NBA Finals they were six
Speaker 1: and two on the road, So they're certainly capable of
Speaker 1: winning on the road, but everything has to fall into place.
Speaker 1: They got up to a great start in Game five,
Speaker 1: I mean, they shot the lights out. Can they do
Speaker 1: that for forty eight minutes on the road? Daniell Ben
Speaker 1: Lebron was at the game and he brought in his
Speaker 1: own tequila. I didn't know you're allowed to do that.
Speaker 1: He had a bottle tequila underneath his seat. If you're
Speaker 1: the king, don't you normally travel with your own tequila.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would have others who traveled with
Speaker 1: my tequila for me, But well, I'm sure they were
Speaker 1: sitting in the cheap seats. They brought the tequila to
Speaker 1: the key. Yeah, store this under your chair, your highness.
Speaker 1: But he was there with his leisure and his agent
Speaker 1: is reportedly dating Adele. Rich Paul is reportedly dating Adele,
Speaker 1: and my comment on that would be good for you,
Speaker 1: Rich Faul no story here, no story here, no confirmation
Speaker 1: on that story. Dude, I have no idea who Rich
Speaker 1: Faul is dating. Okay, all right, just these are things
Speaker 1: that are important, and you're a will no important? Are
Speaker 1: you kidding? Lebron bringing his own tequila and Adele sitting
Speaker 1: next to Lebron on and Rich Paul. No Lebron bringing
Speaker 1: his own tequila. That's a cute story. Rich Paul potentially
Speaker 1: dating a Danel that's a non story. Who care? I
Speaker 1: do you entertainment tonight? I love a doll. I want
Speaker 1: her to be happy. Well, I'm sure Rich Paul is
Speaker 1: making her very happy. If what is Damian Lillard saying
Speaker 1: without saying it? Yep, Portland trail Blazers, you're on Dame time,
Speaker 1: You're on the clock. I want to see some movement,
Speaker 1: as some changing changes. You brought in a new coach.
Speaker 1: You've got an injury plagued roster here. I love Chauncey Billis.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of headbutting with him and his
Speaker 1: Detroit pistons. I think he's going to be a fabulous coach,
Speaker 1: but he's also unproven, so I think that's probably the
Speaker 1: question that Dame in his camp are happy right now?
Speaker 1: What could be on a level of success with Chauncey
Speaker 1: coming in and what kind of moves can we potentially
Speaker 1: make to make us a championship team. So I don't
Speaker 1: think all these trade rumors, I really believe they're not
Speaker 1: coming from Dame, but obviously his agent, his boys, they're
Speaker 1: they're being feel traded out. They're not necessarily coming from
Speaker 1: him himself, but he's having these conversations with these people. Okay,
Speaker 1: what could Portland possibly do to make him happy? Get Kauai? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I mean Kauai is not going to play there. I mean,
Speaker 1: what top free agent is out there that would make
Speaker 1: him happy? I don't know. Look, Dame is a loyal guy.
Speaker 1: He's always talked about not wanting to team up and
Speaker 1: make super teams and fight the good fight. But I
Speaker 1: also heard Katie say that too, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can get much better that. I
Speaker 1: just don't. And if you're Lillard and you think him
Speaker 1: forcing his way out or them respecting his body of
Speaker 1: work and saying, you know what, you've done so much
Speaker 1: for us, we'll probably get less for you, but it's
Speaker 1: the right thing you do. I just can't see them
Speaker 1: given up on a potential top ten player and saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: you've done right by us for eight years. Time for
Speaker 1: you to go. Well, it's one thing to have him,
Speaker 1: but then are you using him correctly? It? Hey, I got,
Speaker 1: I got Dame? What else you got? Not too much?
Speaker 1: You know, we're not threatening? And then what are you
Speaker 1: building around or with Theodore? In his defense, and he
Speaker 1: had no control of this A lot. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of injuries that surrounded the Trailblazers that he had zero
Speaker 1: control of. Colin Oh, I don't blame him for any
Speaker 1: of it. I love watching him play. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if I'm Damian Lillard, I look around and I realize
Speaker 1: we're not in elite team and we're not going to
Speaker 1: be an elite team. I think what would be if
Speaker 1: I'm Damian Lillard, I look around and I look at
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns and saying they got to the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: No knock on Chris, Paul, Devin Booker, Mommy Williams. Great,
Speaker 1: but look at you. You're talking about the role players.
Speaker 1: I mean Cameron Paynes or Craig shop they DeAndre Ayden,
Speaker 1: they got to the NBA Finals. You're telling me we
Speaker 1: couldn't have done that. That probably would be more frustrating
Speaker 1: than if I'm Lillard. But if you could, let's say
Speaker 1: you could get let's say Ben Simmons is available and
Speaker 1: you have to you could get somebody who's JN. Simmons
Speaker 1: doesn't tip the scale for me to get me over
Speaker 1: the edge to beat the Lakers, Utah, Phoenix, Denver, Denver. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think Ben Simmons is that kind of guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna make Lillards say, Okay, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: I mean unless he gets the jump shot between now
Speaker 1: and October fifteen, I don't know. But but what if
Speaker 1: Dame is traded and you get Ben Simmons and something else,
Speaker 1: like you have to at some point go, let's get
Speaker 1: younger because Dame is thirty, um, and you trade him
Speaker 1: for Ben Simmons. No, not just Ben Simmons, well, Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons thy ball, because you're you're gonna have to give
Speaker 1: up Simmons, teeth, thy ball and maybe another big to
Speaker 1: get Damian Lillard. But you put Lillard with Tobias Harris
Speaker 1: and Joel Embiid Yeah who who I like that? But
Speaker 1: you know, Darryl Moorey loves to swing for the fences,
Speaker 1: the GM of the Sixers. I gotta believe somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: swing for the fences, you know, with the Knicks. Do
Speaker 1: with the Knicks, you have to try to pull something on,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you? How would Damian Lillard, you know, be in
Speaker 1: the garden with that young team. It depends on a
Speaker 1: young team. Who are you giving up? Are you giving
Speaker 1: up r? J? Barrett? Probably? I assume he'd probably have
Speaker 1: to be in that You are you keeping Julius Randall?
Speaker 1: It depends on the pieces. I think what New York
Speaker 1: and the Knicks did this year was great. They made
Speaker 1: it more appealing for free agents to potentially think, all right,
Speaker 1: New York is not as bad as place as they've
Speaker 1: been over the last ten plus years. I could give
Speaker 1: them a shot. But there's other teams like the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: if you're Moray in Philly, Because here's the thing, the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets are only going to get better and hopefully
Speaker 1: knock on Wood stay healthier with Kyrie and James Harder
Speaker 1: and obviously KD. So right now there I put them
Speaker 1: as the best team in the in the East. But
Speaker 1: if you had Lillard to Philadelphia with Joel I mean
Speaker 1: that's a different story. That's a different story. Now talking
Speaker 1: to Reggie Millers, a Hall of Famer, you won a
Speaker 1: gold medal. I think he had twenty points in that
Speaker 1: gold medal game in ninety six, something something like that.
Speaker 1: I mean twenty two twenties. I mean, I'm not got
Speaker 1: twenty six. I don't know. I can't remember who I
Speaker 1: was getting buckets versus Yugoslavia. Yes, he had Grant, Hill,
Speaker 1: had Hardaway, Jack, we had Hakim, We had Mitch Richmond.
Speaker 1: How did you get a chem he was an American
Speaker 1: citizen by that man, that's a great acquisition. We had
Speaker 1: David our Sinners shot David Robinson, a Chimla Juan. In
Speaker 1: ninety six in Atlanta, it was Karl Malone on that team,
Speaker 1: Carlo Charles, Scottie, Miss Richmond, Grant Hardaway and Hardaway and
Speaker 1: Gary Payton. Dang, we had a squad. We had a squaw. Okay,
Speaker 1: how would that team do against the dream too? I
Speaker 1: would have been a match up. We win by three.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would love to have seen it.
Speaker 1: But because some players on ninety two were on ninety six,
Speaker 1: So who you you know Barclay's got to be on
Speaker 1: the Dream Team. You lose him and Carl on the
Speaker 1: Dream Team and Stockton and Pippin on the next Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we okay, we lose by fifteen a right, But
Speaker 1: but when you play on a team like that, how
Speaker 1: do you decide, like who is the go to guy?
Speaker 1: Charles was, you know, great on the Dream Team. He
Speaker 1: was I think the leading scorer in the Dream Team.
Speaker 1: But how do you decide without acknowledging, Hey, this is
Speaker 1: the go to guy or this is the guy we're
Speaker 1: gonna have game. Okay? There were some games a lot
Speaker 1: of teams played zone against us because they were are
Speaker 1: afraid of Shock and Robinson and a team, so they
Speaker 1: packed it in and played zone. Those were my nights
Speaker 1: that me and Mitch we were like celebrating, Oh, you
Speaker 1: guys gonna play the zone against us and we're pure shooters.
Speaker 1: That's great. And there's other times when teams played man
Speaker 1: to man and you know, we just gave it to
Speaker 1: Carl and Shock and and Big Fella and Charles and
Speaker 1: they just went crazy down low. So we we went
Speaker 1: game by game and there was really there weren't any egos.
Speaker 1: We were just out there to have fun and win
Speaker 1: a gold medal and we achieved that. Did you did
Speaker 1: you have any beefs with those guys and then they
Speaker 1: become your teammates? Zero zero? But going into it before
Speaker 1: being on the drink or the Olympic team, They're handed
Speaker 1: me some guys who hated you. Well, they may have
Speaker 1: hated me, but I didn't hate them. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I got a chance to know John Stockton, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, you hear a lot of things. You know,
Speaker 1: you've only played Utah twice and it was, you know,
Speaker 1: someone of a I wouldn't say dirty player, but he's known,
Speaker 1: you know him, and I love I loved what it
Speaker 1: was all about, you know, it was all about winning
Speaker 1: and to get a chance to know him and his family.
Speaker 1: Same with Carl. To get a chance to know those
Speaker 1: kind of guys was kind of cool from my end.
Speaker 1: You lead the team in three point attempts. I'm good,
Speaker 1: a guess, I hope. So Yeah, look at ut Polly, Polly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. What did I average on green team in
Speaker 1: ninety six? I had to be one of the leading
Speaker 1: score Yeah, you were eleven point four points per game.
Speaker 1: Barkley was twelve point four. David Robinson was twelve, So
Speaker 1: you threw the top scores. You were the lowest amount
Speaker 1: of turnovers on the entire team because I was a passenger,
Speaker 1: little selfish dude myself. But does Shaq say give me
Speaker 1: the ball at any point? Yeah, Shot got upset with
Speaker 1: me one time, and during the elevens it wasn't a
Speaker 1: be but like I kept feeding David Robinson and a
Speaker 1: kam right, and then Shot comes in. He's like, what, okay,
Speaker 1: you're going what's going on? So this is why to
Speaker 1: this day I tell him, this is why you took
Speaker 1: it out on us in the finals, right, and you
Speaker 1: know between the basis, this is why. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: n you know, I just wanted to showber Smith. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, you're getting me back from ninety six
Speaker 1: right for not feeding you the ball down low. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the best center out here, and then
Speaker 1: he's going with David Robinson and Kaman last one, I'm
Speaker 1: the best center out here, give me the ball, Feed
Speaker 1: me the ball. What's it? How different was it to
Speaker 1: play in the finals, Like the pressure to play in
Speaker 1: an NBA finals as opposed to an Eastern Conference finals
Speaker 1: or first round of a playoff game. Like you know,
Speaker 1: every possession, you hear this all the time. It takes
Speaker 1: a lot of its own. I had a horrendous, horrible
Speaker 1: Game one, and to me, to this day just it
Speaker 1: it bugs and irks me that my game won performance
Speaker 1: to me affected our team the rest of the series.
Speaker 1: I thought I shot one for thirteen, had like twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen points. But that set the tone because I have
Speaker 1: always been the guy if we would have if I
Speaker 1: would have played well and we have lost, that still
Speaker 1: would have gave the rest of the guys hope. It's
Speaker 1: all mental. It's all mental. But why did you play?
Speaker 1: I played great the rest of the series. I played
Speaker 1: great the rest of the series, But to me, that
Speaker 1: Game one just haunts me. It just I should have
Speaker 1: I should have been better in that Game one, just
Speaker 1: to put something on Kobe's in Shack's mind, and I didn't,
Speaker 1: and that it just bugs me. Why did you play poorly?
Speaker 1: I didn't shoot the ball. Well, you know what, maybe
Speaker 1: I exhaled a little bit because we had just beaten
Speaker 1: the Knicks. We got past our arch nemesis, Nemesis, and
Speaker 1: I exhaled, And that's what I should have took three
Speaker 1: or four more deeper breaths, and then like, okay, now
Speaker 1: we're in the finals, and I exhaled for a moment
Speaker 1: and it costs me in Game one again. I played
Speaker 1: find the rest of the series. But to me, you know,
Speaker 1: there's certain moments in certain games. I always remember more
Speaker 1: that Game one, I just wish I could have back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's twenty one years ago. Shack put up forty three
Speaker 1: and nineteen I think, And how many free following how
Speaker 1: many free throws? Was did he shoot that game? One
Speaker 1: of the games he shot thirty nine free throws? How
Speaker 1: many free throws? Because he must have shot at least
Speaker 1: twenty five that game. In game one, Shack was one
Speaker 1: six from the free throw line. That's it, yep. What
Speaker 1: was the game when he shot like thirty nine free throws?
Speaker 1: Checking he shot thirty nine free throws in the finals
Speaker 1: A game in the finals thirty something, Wow, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: Game two, Shack had forty points, twenty four rebounds. He
Speaker 1: was eighteen to thirty nine from the free throw line
Speaker 1: forty six percent eighteen of thirty nine thirty nine free throws.
Speaker 1: He went through rick Dale Davis. We threw Austin We
Speaker 1: threw everything on him. We're like, we're just gonna put
Speaker 1: him on the line. We had zero and we were
Speaker 1: treating him like yanis thirty nine thirty nine free throw? Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: and we still and we still lost Reggie In that
Speaker 1: entire NBA Finals, you missed one free throw, you were
Speaker 1: forty five or forty six. It bugs me. It bugs me,
Speaker 1: one free throw? Are you kidding me? That's unacceptable? Stables unacceptable.
Speaker 1: What What did Shaq shoot from the line in the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals for the series. He was thirty six of
Speaker 1: ninety three. Oh my god, and we're talking about Jannis.
Speaker 1: He missed more that week than Reggie missed in his life.
Speaker 1: You didn't miss that many free throws in your career.
Speaker 1: Reg Oh my god. Dominant he was. We had no
Speaker 1: answer for Shock. It was young Kobe, so I could
Speaker 1: feel I could get to Kobe a little bit. He
Speaker 1: put on when Shack filed out of Game four and
Speaker 1: Kobe took over. Se you're making me therapy and have
Speaker 1: therapy on air. That's another moment, Like, I just wish
Speaker 1: we could have back that. When Shaq filled out God
Speaker 1: and we went to overtime, that was our chance. The
Speaker 1: tightest series, up two two in Game five, that's when
Speaker 1: I win two three two. Yeah, Game five is in
Speaker 1: our building if we win that, which we did. We
Speaker 1: go up three two coming home and then we got
Speaker 1: to win one of two. It's great to talk to
Speaker 1: you today. I hate you. Enjoy the rest of your day. Reg. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be Tiper. Now on my bike ride all
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be thinking about and going one for thirteen
Speaker 1: in game one. Oh great, he's Reggie Miller, Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer joining us. Thank you, Reg love you, Dan Ads.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Iceland. We're getting well. We'll take a
Speaker 1: break back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan
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Speaker 1: called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball all the time,
Speaker 1: but it's more about the stories about what made these
Speaker 1: people love their sport and all the interesting interactions along
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Speaker 1: the Store Tomorrow Man. Reggie was legitimately upset recapping the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals when the Pacers lost to the Lakers. That
Speaker 1: was in two thousand and I was there covering it
Speaker 1: for Sports Center, and I had gotten to know Reggie
Speaker 1: and Mark Jackson a little bit during the postseason that year.
Speaker 1: That's when I first formed a relationship with Reggie as
Speaker 1: much as you can with somebody in the media and
Speaker 1: somebody who's still playing. But we went out one night,
Speaker 1: an off night in Indianapolis, and we had drinks and
Speaker 1: cigars and Mark Jackson and Reggie teammates, and they disagreed
Speaker 1: on everything. One love Marino, one love Montana, love holy Field,
Speaker 1: one love Tyson, no matter it was, and whatever the
Speaker 1: topic was, they never agreed on it. And then I
Speaker 1: was brought in to be the deciding vote one way
Speaker 1: or another. But yeah, I remember Reggie poor performance and
Speaker 1: it wasn't really Kobe. It was shock, I mean Shack
Speaker 1: those are incredible numbers. If he made sixty percent of
Speaker 1: his free throws, he would average forty points a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah po Yeah. At two thousand Lakers Pacers shack led
Speaker 1: both teams in scoring and rebounds in all six games.
Speaker 1: He also he averaged thirty eight points seventeen rebounds. The
Speaker 1: second best guy in his team was Kobe at fifteen
Speaker 1: points per game. Yeah wow. And you can't. We watch
Speaker 1: him on TV, but when you stand next to him
Speaker 1: like you'd just you can't imagine going in and trying
Speaker 1: to score on him, or or what it's like to
Speaker 1: have him come down the lane like he's just he's
Speaker 1: bigger than what you think. And you you and you
Speaker 1: think he's big, He's bigger than that. Uh, let's see
Speaker 1: Nick and illinoisl squeeze in here. Nick, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Buddy? What's going on? Guys? The first time
Speaker 1: caller six one two? Hear me? Yeah, guy, okay, uh sorry,
Speaker 1: my best Paul. I'll enjoy this one. Buddy, and I
Speaker 1: got tickets to I saw you football the play into
Speaker 1: Kansas State in the middle of September. We're looking forward
Speaker 1: to that. Keeping out in September twelveth for that upset
Speaker 1: and then Dan, I just had a couple opinions on Rogers.
Speaker 1: I don't know what his deal is. You know, they
Speaker 1: were so close to get into Super Ball last year.
Speaker 1: They were a bad cornerback play away, you know, minus
Speaker 1: the you know, the play where they should have maybe
Speaker 1: scored the touchdown instead of kicking the field goal. Kevin
Speaker 1: King got burned before half against Scottie Miller, and then
Speaker 1: after that field goal they got uh, you know, third
Speaker 1: and long, I think, and Kevin King blew it again,
Speaker 1: so right end of the game. So you know, outside
Speaker 1: of losing his all Pro center, he's got the best
Speaker 1: wide receiver in football. He gets buck dr backs, you know,
Speaker 1: the things are there. So I don't know what his
Speaker 1: deal is. Why he's got to be um, you know,
Speaker 1: prickly in a sense of what's going on. You know,
Speaker 1: he's so close. So I just think that that is
Speaker 1: irks me a little bit. So all right, well, thank you, Nick.
Speaker 1: I don't know how getting tickets to a Southern Illinois
Speaker 1: game can be the best of the weekend. And I'll
Speaker 1: if they're sold out a hook kept in m oh Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm asking that games at Kansas State, Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: big one. Yeah. I don't understand the Rogers situation. I
Speaker 1: just know that the best chance for him to win
Speaker 1: a championship, a super Bowl in the next couple of
Speaker 1: years to me is in Green Bay. You're not going
Speaker 1: to Kansas City, ain't not going to Tampa. And you
Speaker 1: know the real story will emerge eventually. But you know,
Speaker 1: did you want to embarrass the Packers? Do you want
Speaker 1: to make them uncomfortable? Just come out and say you
Speaker 1: want to be traded. If that's the end game, then
Speaker 1: just say that, get to your new team, get started,
Speaker 1: get moving. If not, then just okay, go in swallow
Speaker 1: your pride a little bit, knowing that you still win
Speaker 1: in this unless there's something that we don't know, but
Speaker 1: you ultimately you want to win another super Bowl, right,
Speaker 1: But it feels like I don't want to win another
Speaker 1: super Bowl if it means that the front office is
Speaker 1: going to win a super Bowl like it. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to understand the logic. Yes, the Packers bet on
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, they bet against you, absolutely, no question, and
Speaker 1: then you proved everybody wrong with the MVP. Okay, now
Speaker 1: move on either with the Packers or ask for a trade.
Speaker 1: Todd would you learn today? Jake and Wisconsin says there's
Speaker 1: no better place to be right now than the Deer
Speaker 1: District seventeen thousand in the Arena twenty five thousand outside Seaton.
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