WEBVTT - 07/19/21 DPS Hour 3 Reggie Miller

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio Final Hour on this Monday, Dan and m

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<v Speaker 1>Dannet's Dan Patrick's Show Back Row consists of Fritzie mclovin

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<v Speaker 1>is off this week, more phone calls, best and worst

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<v Speaker 1>of the weekend, What you Like you didn't Like? Eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven three d p show. Also, Reggie Miller will

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<v Speaker 1>join us coming up in about twenty minutes from now.

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<v Speaker 1>A few things to talk to Reggie about, including Damian Lillard.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he want out of Portland? Does he want others

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<v Speaker 1>to say that he wants out of Portland? Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>the Blazers better be listening because if you read between

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<v Speaker 1>the lines, feels like Damian Lillard once out of Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been an interesting week for Team USA men's basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost Bradley Beale because of COVID, Kevin Love dropped out.

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<v Speaker 1>They added JaVale McGee and Kelden Johnson. Not exactly dream teamers,

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<v Speaker 1>but they needed a big guy and JaVale McGhee does

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<v Speaker 1>some silly things on the court at times, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of length. He's one couple of titles here.

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<v Speaker 1>As for Kelton Johnson, it's okay to admit and you

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of him. He's a twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 1>forward who plays for the Spurs. And keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>Team USA still has Durant Lillard Jason Tatum. Other countries

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<v Speaker 1>would love to be dealing with the same difficulties Team

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<v Speaker 1>USA has had. But despite those losses to Nigeria and Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>America is still figures to be the heavy heavy, heavy

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<v Speaker 1>favorites to win a gold medal. They beat Spain last

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<v Speaker 1>night and now they go to Tokyo. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to reg about all things NBA basketball coming up. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see update the pull results there, Todd, if you can

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<v Speaker 1>which athlete stock would you invest in today? Show Hey

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven percent, Trevor Lawrence, It's twenty six percent, Markawa,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five percent, Colin more Kawa winning the Open Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not even twenty five Showhyo, Tani, you got Yannas now, like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of young players doing some pretty amazing things.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was going to invest in Showhy, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been last year. It would have been the year

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<v Speaker 1>before that. It would have been when he was just

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<v Speaker 1>coming over to the United States. But he had another

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<v Speaker 1>home run yesterday. But you're looking, you know, like justin Herbert,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd invest in that if he was his stock. But

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like, you know, with what more Kala did,

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<v Speaker 1>what Jannis is doing. And you know, because Jannis has

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<v Speaker 1>got two MVPs and he's on the verge of winning

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<v Speaker 1>a title. There's only a couple of players in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the sport who've accomplished that by this age,

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<v Speaker 1>by the age of twenty six. I think Bill Russell

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<v Speaker 1>was in there, Tim Duncan is in there, Lebron was

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<v Speaker 1>close to doing it. But this is Yannis right now

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<v Speaker 1>doing something and you know, stepping up in a big

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<v Speaker 1>moment with his season performance. Because we've seen where great

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<v Speaker 1>during the regular season, and I always maintain that they

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<v Speaker 1>were a great regular season team. They're built for a

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. They were not built for a seven game series.

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<v Speaker 1>Just weren't. They've made a lot of good moves here,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Budenholzer, who's been criticized and rightfully so, for some

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<v Speaker 1>of the moves in previous postseasons, even this year's postseason,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's made some moves here. Now it's up to

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<v Speaker 1>the Phoenix Suns to try and to counter and as

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<v Speaker 1>great as Jannis is. There was something he said over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend that I loved hearing, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you listen because you're a journalist, you're a sports announcer.

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<v Speaker 1>Other times I listen as a parent, Like I'll listen

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody and what they say or how they say it,

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<v Speaker 1>or how they conduct themselves. You know, I was very

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<v Speaker 1>critical Bryson Deshambo, who's around the age of my son,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought that he was a little child, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a baby, didn't get his way, he threw a

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<v Speaker 1>temper tantrum. Then you listening to Colin more Kawa after

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<v Speaker 1>winning the Open championship, it sounded like he was thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>not twenty five. But what Janna said over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>really stood out, like this is about staying humble, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is what he had to say from my experience,

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<v Speaker 1>right like when I think about like, oh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>did this, you know, I'm so great. I had thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>I had twenty five, ten and ten or whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>case might be. Because you're gonna think about that or

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<v Speaker 1>we want this and that. Usually the next day you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna suck, you know, simple as that. You like the

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<v Speaker 1>next few days you're gonna be terrible. And uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>figured out like a mindset to have that, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>you focus on the past, that's your ego. I did this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, um we were able to you know, beat

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<v Speaker 1>this team. For all we did. I did this in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. I want that in the past and for

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. Is my pride, Like yeah, next game,

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<v Speaker 1>game five, I do this and this and this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going down and that's your pride tale Like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen like you're right here. And I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like tried to focus in the you know, in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>in the present. And that's humility that's been humbled, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not setting no expectation. That's going out there enjoying the game,

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<v Speaker 1>competing a high level. And I think I've had people

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<v Speaker 1>throughout my life that helped me that. But that's a

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<v Speaker 1>skill that I've tried to like perfect it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mastered it, and it's been working so far. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful answer dealing with being in the moment. Don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what you did. I mean at that age, come

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<v Speaker 1>over here and do what he's doing, how he's done it,

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<v Speaker 1>how he's improved. It's easy to criticize his free throw shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have because at some point somebody has to

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<v Speaker 1>help him with just the rhythm of a free throw.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is so close to perfection. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>him to shoot threes. But if he's a seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>percent free throw shooter, who it's gonna be some long

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<v Speaker 1>nights for NBA players dealing with him. But keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>you come over to the United States. We didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what he was, we didn't know who he was, and

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<v Speaker 1>he made himself better every year. So will he get

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<v Speaker 1>better as a free throw shooter. I hope, But he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to get a rhythm down, and it starts from

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<v Speaker 1>your legs moving up and then a nice smooth release.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need him to shoot threes, because put him

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else on the floor, he's going to score. But

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<v Speaker 1>the free throw shooting, if he gets that to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where you can't do the hacker shack, then there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way you can stop him because and maybe he'll

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<v Speaker 1>get that. If you get the free throw down, you

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to get that fifteen to eighteen foot

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<v Speaker 1>shot down because if they back off you, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a jumper. You just have to have

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<v Speaker 1>them respect that shot. Then it makes you even more dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, that's a great success story with the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA and the Milwaukee Bucks. And he chose to stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they made the trade for Drew Holiday, and

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<v Speaker 1>they gave up a lot for Holiday. And Holiday is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be really good and supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 1>really good defender. That last game was career defining for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got to do it one more time. But

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<v Speaker 1>because Janis stayed, they got Holiday, Chris Middleton has emerged,

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<v Speaker 1>Brook Lopez, Conaton. You have some players who are doing

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<v Speaker 1>some really impressive things for the Bucks. Because the Greek

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<v Speaker 1>freak will not win this by himself. But when you

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<v Speaker 1>have that team effort, and if you if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Suns, you go, well, you got Aid and

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul and Devin Booker. But the role players, the

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<v Speaker 1>bench players, that's where I think that they've lacked. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where Milwaukee has taken advantage of the

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix Suns. But if you have a big lead like

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<v Speaker 1>they did, no like Milwaukee was trailing by sixteen points,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest comeback in an NBA Finals game since the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve Game four Finals, when the Miami heat rallied

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<v Speaker 1>from seventeen down. Sounded like a stat of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, just stat and it's a day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>stat of the day, duds. That what? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the one night when the whole world comes together the

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<v Speaker 1>world's biggest show in the world's biggest stage, opening Ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>of the Tokyo Olympics, Friday, seven thirty Eastern on NBC. Yes, Polly,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about Janie's development. His first year in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>he was nineteen. He averaged seven points and four rebounds.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't make an All Star tea until his fourth

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<v Speaker 1>year in the league. His second year average twelve and seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he kind of went crazy. But just to compare it,

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<v Speaker 1>Zion Williamson at the same age average twenty three points

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<v Speaker 1>in his second years, Zion's averaging twenty seven and Yannis

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<v Speaker 1>the second year he is everaging twelve. Yeah, you almost

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<v Speaker 1>sleep on how quickly Zion's become a score. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>I but if you said, who would you rather have

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<v Speaker 1>Yannis or Zion? Right, yeah, and you might have people say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I like Zion if he develops that three

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<v Speaker 1>point shot and then you're not going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to stop him inside. What Yannis does defensively, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>just that that alone is value. I mean it might

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<v Speaker 1>be the you know, one, two, three top defenders in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, but he just so long and covers up

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<v Speaker 1>so much territory in there. Now you add the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's getting better with his offense. Kawhi Leonard was

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive player. When he first got to San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't known as a score and then he developed

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<v Speaker 1>and he got better. He added to his game, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you love. Like these next two or three

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<v Speaker 1>years for Zion, the next two or three years for Luca,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing with your game? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing differently? How much better are you Because there will

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<v Speaker 1>be players that just level out and that's it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you wonder if they're going to get better. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for Anthony Davis to be unstoppable. I want him

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<v Speaker 1>to be consistently unstoppable. Now he has shown pockets, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to stay healthier. He got to truly commit

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<v Speaker 1>to his body and invest in it, literally invest in

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<v Speaker 1>it to say I'm going to take it to the

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<v Speaker 1>next level. Because you know this is the escalator. Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>is coming down. Anthony Davis should be going up and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they meet somewhere. Maybe a d is already moving

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<v Speaker 1>up past Lebron. But Lebron can't be in better shape

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<v Speaker 1>than you. And he's ten years older. West in Indiana,

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<v Speaker 1>best and worst of the weekend? West, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>have for me? Hey? Dan? The first time all time

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<v Speaker 1>five nine, two ten. Uh, didn't have the worst of

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, but my best of the weekend. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to travel up to Michigan and see my grandma

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<v Speaker 1>who is ninety seven for the first time since COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was wonderful. And uh, I know it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but you guys are talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>frisbee drinking game earlier. Yeah. Um, around here, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of names for it. We call it either

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<v Speaker 1>beersbee or frizbeer. Oh okay, and uh suck it back row,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, thank you West. Well, it's only Fritzie back there. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>McLevin is in Iceland? Is it cold in Iceland? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>He's wearing a like a down jacket right now in

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<v Speaker 1>a hat in the picture he sent, Yes, Don is

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna send that he like, where's Waldo? Where's mcleven picture?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that be kind of fun in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains and all those houses to see where his

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<v Speaker 1>little face is somewhere? Yeah. See, people in la are

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<v Speaker 1>also wearing that same outfit, so you really can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>why Russell he oh remember that one came in hat,

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<v Speaker 1>puffy jacket, flip flops and flip flops, and I went,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to La. Hey. You know it gets cold that

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<v Speaker 1>marine layer in the morning. I go, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>I take that temperature all day long come wintertime on

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<v Speaker 1>the East coast. Let's see Marco in Arizona. Hey, Marco, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick's show real quick. I wanted to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the Ramones topic just because this one a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know. The Ramones copied there sound from a

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<v Speaker 1>band from Detroit. Actually it's an all black band that

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<v Speaker 1>played punk music called Death. A band called Death. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary on them and it's fantastic seat and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you would love it. But my best of the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend was Nicia tates Win. I know you guys don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot of MMA, but her backstory on her

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<v Speaker 1>brain injury, on her recovery, is pretty awesome. So her

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, come on, Valley, we got a rally.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to do this, all right, Marco, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>they already know that I don't like the Ramones. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>at this point you're gonna like rediscover and be like whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>now I get it. I'm not no, I know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay, that's all right. You shouldn't feel pressured to

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<v Speaker 1>six will be tomorrow night in Milwaukee as the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>try to close out the Phoenix Suns up three games

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<v Speaker 1>to two. We bring in the Hall of Famer Turner

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Redge, how are you now working? We just

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<v Speaker 1>a week ago, seven days ago, when it was two

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<v Speaker 1>nothing Phoenix Suns. Everyone in Milwaukee thought it was over.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was dwot ready to get rid of coats, booten Holzer,

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<v Speaker 1>Javist was going to be a forever choke artist. Now

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<v Speaker 1>now they are on the verge of winning in India Championship,

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<v Speaker 1>their first in what fifty plus years? What a week

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<v Speaker 1>makes right? And didn't you and I talk about? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix did what they had to do, They secured their

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<v Speaker 1>home court advantage, went back to Milwaukee. That's what Milwaukee did.

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<v Speaker 1>But Milwaukee went on the road, got Game five and

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<v Speaker 1>is in total control of this series. You expect Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 1>to win Tuesday night? I do unless and there's one

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<v Speaker 1>caveat because we have not really seen that this series.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul hasn't had a signature game yet, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're all waiting on that. Booker has been great,

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<v Speaker 1>But the other half of that equation is Chris Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>He had signature moments versus the Lakers, versus Denver games

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about, and versus the Clippers. There was always

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<v Speaker 1>one game he had where he was phenomenal. Game six.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be that for him. If not, then

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<v Speaker 1>this series is over. I mentioned last week that by Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>we're either going to be talking about Jannis and getting

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<v Speaker 1>two MVPs in a title at this age, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really really rare in the history of the sport, or

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<v Speaker 1>will probably be talking about Chris Paul finally elevating himself

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<v Speaker 1>into a different category as a point guard. I know

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Booker will be the MVP of Phoenix wins and

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<v Speaker 1>Yannis will be the MVP if the Milwaukee Bucks win,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you think those are still are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to be Is that fair to Chris Paul. If let's

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<v Speaker 1>say the Phoenix Suns lose this, are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>look at Chris Paul as opposed to the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the team. Monnie Williams. Should it all be on Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Paul that Hey, didn't get it done again, you led

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<v Speaker 1>two games to none with home court advantage at thirty No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Chris Paul will probably get a pass because

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<v Speaker 1>of his age and because of the hard docks. It

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<v Speaker 1>has taken Chris Paul to even get to the NBA Finals,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying this will be his last look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, but he will get a long pass because

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<v Speaker 1>of the signature games along the way. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>will remember those more as opposed to he just hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>played great here in the finals and there's still time

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<v Speaker 1>for him again. I think he needs to put a

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<v Speaker 1>stamp and have a signature thirty plus twelve assists, but

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<v Speaker 1>impactful points like he had versus the Clippers in that

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<v Speaker 1>close out game, like he had against Denver in that

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<v Speaker 1>close out game. Those close out games, he was phenomenal

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<v Speaker 1>and we just haven't seen that. And I give all

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<v Speaker 1>the credit to Drew Holliday, PJ. Tucker, Pat Connington. Those

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<v Speaker 1>three guys have been the principal defenders on CP three

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<v Speaker 1>and they've done a great job of really just locking

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<v Speaker 1>him down. Yeah, my point that I've been making is that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we want to focus on the stars, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's the role players. You can go down through history.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have great players. There's a role player who

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<v Speaker 1>does something, whether it's baseball football, like Malcolm Butler with

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. Nobody had heard of him. You know. You

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<v Speaker 1>get a role player like John Paxon or Steve Kerr

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<v Speaker 1>who hits a big shot. You can have star power.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what kind of contributions am I getting. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like Milwaukee has depth that they can rely on, and

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<v Speaker 1>Montie Williams isn't sure what he has with Phoenix. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Pat Connington, but people are not talking in

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<v Speaker 1>a Bobby Cortise Jr. He has been fantastic throughout these playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>barely sniffed the floor in that Brooklyn series at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and then comes back in Atlanta and has a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge impact because of the injury t Honist and has

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<v Speaker 1>been fantastic in the finals here. And you're right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Coach Budd and the Bucks they have more luxury

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<v Speaker 1>because of their bench, and I think the injury to

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<v Speaker 1>shariche has has hurt Phoenix. Tory Craig has not been

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<v Speaker 1>the same since he went down with the leg injury.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's played since then, but he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>the same. But look, I'm not going to count Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>out because they've been fantastic on the road all postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I think coming into the NBA Finals they were six

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<v Speaker 1>and two on the road, So they're certainly capable of

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<v Speaker 1>winning on the road, but everything has to fall into place.

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<v Speaker 1>They got up to a great start in Game five,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they shot the lights out. Can they do

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<v Speaker 1>that for forty eight minutes on the road? Daniell Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron was at the game and he brought in his

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<v Speaker 1>own tequila. I didn't know you're allowed to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a bottle tequila underneath his seat. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>the king, don't you normally travel with your own tequila.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would have others who traveled with

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<v Speaker 1>my tequila for me, But well, I'm sure they were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the cheap seats. They brought the tequila to

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<v Speaker 1>the key. Yeah, store this under your chair, your highness.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was there with his leisure and his agent

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<v Speaker 1>is reportedly dating Adele. Rich Paul is reportedly dating Adele,

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<v Speaker 1>and my comment on that would be good for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Faul no story here, no story here, no confirmation

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<v Speaker 1>on that story. Dude, I have no idea who Rich

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<v Speaker 1>Faul is dating. Okay, all right, just these are things

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<v Speaker 1>that are important, and you're a will no important? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding? Lebron bringing his own tequila and Adele sitting

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<v Speaker 1>next to Lebron on and Rich Paul. No Lebron bringing

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<v Speaker 1>his own tequila. That's a cute story. Rich Paul potentially

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<v Speaker 1>dating a Danel that's a non story. Who care? I

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<v Speaker 1>do you entertainment tonight? I love a doll. I want

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<v Speaker 1>her to be happy. Well, I'm sure Rich Paul is

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<v Speaker 1>making her very happy. If what is Damian Lillard saying

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<v Speaker 1>without saying it? Yep, Portland trail Blazers, you're on Dame time,

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the clock. I want to see some movement,

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<v Speaker 1>as some changing changes. You brought in a new coach.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got an injury plagued roster here. I love Chauncey Billis.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of headbutting with him and his

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit pistons. I think he's going to be a fabulous coach,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also unproven, so I think that's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>question that Dame in his camp are happy right now?

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<v Speaker 1>What could be on a level of success with Chauncey

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and what kind of moves can we potentially

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<v Speaker 1>make to make us a championship team. So I don't

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>think all these trade rumors, I really believe they're not

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 1>coming from Dame, but obviously his agent, his boys, they're

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>they're being feel traded out. They're not necessarily coming from

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>him himself, but he's having these conversations with these people. Okay,

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:36.439
<v Speaker 1>what could Portland possibly do to make him happy? Get Kauai? Maybe?

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean Kauai is not going to play there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what top free agent is out there that would make

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<v Speaker 1>him happy? I don't know. Look, Dame is a loyal guy.

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>He's always talked about not wanting to team up and

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>make super teams and fight the good fight. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also heard Katie say that too, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they can get much better that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't. And if you're Lillard and you think him

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>forcing his way out or them respecting his body of

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 1>work and saying, you know what, you've done so much

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>for us, we'll probably get less for you, but it's

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the right thing you do. I just can't see them

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>given up on a potential top ten player and saying, Okay,

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.639
<v Speaker 1>you've done right by us for eight years. Time for

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you to go. Well, it's one thing to have him,

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 1>but then are you using him correctly? It? Hey, I got,

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I got Dame? What else you got? Not too much?

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're not threatening? And then what are you

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>building around or with Theodore? In his defense, and he

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>had no control of this A lot. There's a lot

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>of injuries that surrounded the Trailblazers that he had zero

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>control of. Colin Oh, I don't blame him for any

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>of it. I love watching him play. I'm just saying,

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>if I'm Damian Lillard, I look around and I realize

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 1>we're not in elite team and we're not going to

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.639
<v Speaker 1>be an elite team. I think what would be if

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm Damian Lillard, I look around and I look at

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the Phoenix Suns and saying they got to the NBA Finals.

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>No knock on Chris, Paul, Devin Booker, Mommy Williams. Great,

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>but look at you. You're talking about the role players.

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean Cameron Paynes or Craig shop they DeAndre Ayden,

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>they got to the NBA Finals. You're telling me we

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have done that. That probably would be more frustrating

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>than if I'm Lillard. But if you could, let's say

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you could get let's say Ben Simmons is available and

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to you could get somebody who's JN. Simmons

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't tip the scale for me to get me over

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>the edge to beat the Lakers, Utah, Phoenix, Denver, Denver. Yeah.

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Ben Simmons is that kind of guy

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna make Lillards say, Okay, I'm ready to go.

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean unless he gets the jump shot between now

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and October fifteen, I don't know. But but what if

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Dame is traded and you get Ben Simmons and something else,

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>like you have to at some point go, let's get

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>younger because Dame is thirty, um, and you trade him

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>for Ben Simmons. No, not just Ben Simmons, well, Ben

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Simmons thy ball, because you're you're gonna have to give

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>up Simmons, teeth, thy ball and maybe another big to

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>get Damian Lillard. But you put Lillard with Tobias Harris

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>and Joel Embiid Yeah who who I like that? But

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, Darryl Moorey loves to swing for the fences,

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the GM of the Sixers. I gotta believe somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>swing for the fences, you know, with the Knicks. Do

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>with the Knicks, you have to try to pull something on,

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you? How would Damian Lillard, you know, be in

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the garden with that young team. It depends on a

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 1>young team. Who are you giving up? Are you giving

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>up r? J? Barrett? Probably? I assume he'd probably have

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to be in that You are you keeping Julius Randall?

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>It depends on the pieces. I think what New York

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>and the Knicks did this year was great. They made

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it more appealing for free agents to potentially think, all right,

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>New York is not as bad as place as they've

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>been over the last ten plus years. I could give

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>them a shot. But there's other teams like the Philadelphia

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're Moray in Philly, Because here's the thing, the

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Nets are only going to get better and hopefully

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>knock on Wood stay healthier with Kyrie and James Harder

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and obviously KD. So right now there I put them

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>as the best team in the in the East. But

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 1>if you had Lillard to Philadelphia with Joel I mean

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that's a different story. That's a different story. Now talking

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to Reggie Millers, a Hall of Famer, you won a

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>gold medal. I think he had twenty points in that

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>gold medal game in ninety six, something something like that.

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean twenty two twenties. I mean, I'm not got

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty six. I don't know. I can't remember who I

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>was getting buckets versus Yugoslavia. Yes, he had Grant, Hill,

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 1>had Hardaway, Jack, we had Hakim, We had Mitch Richmond.

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>How did you get a chem he was an American

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>citizen by that man, that's a great acquisition. We had

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>David our Sinners shot David Robinson, a Chimla Juan. In

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>ninety six in Atlanta, it was Karl Malone on that team,

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Carlo Charles, Scottie, Miss Richmond, Grant Hardaway and Hardaway and

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Gary Payton. Dang, we had a squad. We had a squaw. Okay,

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>how would that team do against the dream too? I

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>would have been a match up. We win by three.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would love to have seen it.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>But because some players on ninety two were on ninety six,

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>So who you you know Barclay's got to be on

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the Dream Team. You lose him and Carl on the

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Dream Team and Stockton and Pippin on the next Yeah,

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>so we okay, we lose by fifteen a right, But

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>but when you play on a team like that, how

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>do you decide, like who is the go to guy?

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Charles was, you know, great on the Dream Team. He

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>was I think the leading scorer in the Dream Team.

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>But how do you decide without acknowledging, Hey, this is

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the go to guy or this is the guy we're

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna have game. Okay? There were some games a lot

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of teams played zone against us because they were are

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>afraid of Shock and Robinson and a team, so they

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>packed it in and played zone. Those were my nights

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>that me and Mitch we were like celebrating, Oh, you

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>guys gonna play the zone against us and we're pure shooters.

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>That's great. And there's other times when teams played man

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to man and you know, we just gave it to

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Carl and Shock and and Big Fella and Charles and

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they just went crazy down low. So we we went

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>game by game and there was really there weren't any egos.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>We were just out there to have fun and win

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a gold medal and we achieved that. Did you did

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you have any beefs with those guys and then they

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>become your teammates? Zero zero? But going into it before

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>being on the drink or the Olympic team, They're handed

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>me some guys who hated you. Well, they may have

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>hated me, but I didn't hate them. I don't know.

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I got a chance to know John Stockton, you know,

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you hear a lot of things. You know,

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you've only played Utah twice and it was, you know,

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 1>someone of a I wouldn't say dirty player, but he's known,

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you know him, and I love I loved what it

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>was all about, you know, it was all about winning

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and to get a chance to know him and his family.

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Same with Carl. To get a chance to know those

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of guys was kind of cool from my end.

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>You lead the team in three point attempts. I'm good,

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a guess, I hope. So Yeah, look at ut Polly, Polly, Yeah,

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I did. What did I average on green team in

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>ninety six? I had to be one of the leading

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>score Yeah, you were eleven point four points per game.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Barkley was twelve point four. David Robinson was twelve, So

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you threw the top scores. You were the lowest amount

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>of turnovers on the entire team because I was a passenger,

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>little selfish dude myself. But does Shaq say give me

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball at any point? Yeah, Shot got upset with

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>me one time, and during the elevens it wasn't a

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>be but like I kept feeding David Robinson and a

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>kam right, and then Shot comes in. He's like, what, okay,

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you're going what's going on? So this is why to

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>this day I tell him, this is why you took

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it out on us in the finals, right, and you

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>know between the basis, this is why. He's like, oh,

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>n you know, I just wanted to showber Smith. I

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, you're getting me back from ninety six

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>right for not feeding you the ball down low. He's like,

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm the best center out here, and then

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>he's going with David Robinson and Kaman last one, I'm

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the best center out here, give me the ball, Feed

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>me the ball. What's it? How different was it to

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>play in the finals, Like the pressure to play in

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>an NBA finals as opposed to an Eastern Conference finals

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>or first round of a playoff game. Like you know,

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>every possession, you hear this all the time. It takes

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of its own. I had a horrendous, horrible

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Game one, and to me, to this day just it

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it bugs and irks me that my game won performance

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>to me affected our team the rest of the series.

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought I shot one for thirteen, had like twelve

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>thirteen points. But that set the tone because I have

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>always been the guy if we would have if I

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>would have played well and we have lost, that still

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>would have gave the rest of the guys hope. It's

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>all mental. It's all mental. But why did you play?

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I played great the rest of the series. I played

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>great the rest of the series, But to me, that

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Game one just haunts me. It just I should have

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I should have been better in that Game one, just

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to put something on Kobe's in Shack's mind, and I didn't,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and that it just bugs me. Why did you play poorly?

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't shoot the ball. Well, you know what, maybe

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I exhaled a little bit because we had just beaten

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks. We got past our arch nemesis, Nemesis, and

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I exhaled, And that's what I should have took three

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>or four more deeper breaths, and then like, okay, now

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>we're in the finals, and I exhaled for a moment

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and it costs me in Game one again. I played

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 1>find the rest of the series. But to me, you know,

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 1>there's certain moments in certain games. I always remember more

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.919
<v Speaker 1>that Game one, I just wish I could have back. Yeah,

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 1>it's twenty one years ago. Shack put up forty three

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:47.879
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen I think, And how many free following how

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>many free throws? Was did he shoot that game? One

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of the games he shot thirty nine free throws? How

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.439
<v Speaker 1>many free throws? Because he must have shot at least

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty five that game. In game one, Shack was one

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 1>six from the free throw line. That's it, yep. What

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>was the game when he shot like thirty nine free throws?

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Checking he shot thirty nine free throws in the finals

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>A game in the finals thirty something, Wow, yeah, Paul.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Game two, Shack had forty points, twenty four rebounds. He

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 1>was eighteen to thirty nine from the free throw line

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>forty six percent eighteen of thirty nine thirty nine free throws.

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>He went through rick Dale Davis. We threw Austin We

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 1>threw everything on him. We're like, we're just gonna put

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>him on the line. We had zero and we were

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 1>treating him like yanis thirty nine thirty nine free throw? Yeah, Paul,

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and we still and we still lost Reggie In that

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>entire NBA Finals, you missed one free throw, you were

0:35:56.480 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>forty five or forty six. It bugs me. It bugs me,

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>one free throw? Are you kidding me? That's unacceptable? Stables unacceptable.

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>What What did Shaq shoot from the line in the

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>NBA Finals for the series. He was thirty six of

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>ninety three. Oh my god, and we're talking about Jannis.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.479
<v Speaker 1>He missed more that week than Reggie missed in his life.

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You didn't miss that many free throws in your career.

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Reg Oh my god. Dominant he was. We had no

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>answer for Shock. It was young Kobe, so I could

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>feel I could get to Kobe a little bit. He

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>put on when Shack filed out of Game four and

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Kobe took over. Se you're making me therapy and have

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>therapy on air. That's another moment, Like, I just wish

0:36:55.440 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 1>we could have back that. When Shaq filled out God

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and we went to overtime, that was our chance. The

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>tightest series, up two two in Game five, that's when

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I win two three two. Yeah, Game five is in

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>our building if we win that, which we did. We

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:18.919
<v Speaker 1>go up three two coming home and then we got

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>to win one of two. It's great to talk to

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you today. I hate you. Enjoy the rest of your day. Reg. Oh, yeah,

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be Tiper. Now on my bike ride all

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be thinking about and going one for thirteen

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>in game one. Oh great, he's Reggie Miller, Hall of

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Famer joining us. Thank you, Reg love you, Dan Ads.

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Iceland. We're getting well. We'll take a

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 1>break back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.080
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0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.520
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0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:08.759
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0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:13.480
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0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.879
<v Speaker 1>called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball all the time,

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.200
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0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>people love their sport and all the interesting interactions along

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:26.840
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0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:30.520
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0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.400
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<v Speaker 1>you get your podcast. Last Call for phone calls, What's

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the Store Tomorrow Man. Reggie was legitimately upset recapping the

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>NBA Finals when the Pacers lost to the Lakers. That

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>was in two thousand and I was there covering it

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>for Sports Center, and I had gotten to know Reggie

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and Mark Jackson a little bit during the postseason that year.

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>That's when I first formed a relationship with Reggie as

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>much as you can with somebody in the media and

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's still playing. But we went out one night,

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>an off night in Indianapolis, and we had drinks and

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>cigars and Mark Jackson and Reggie teammates, and they disagreed

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>on everything. One love Marino, one love Montana, love holy Field,

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>one love Tyson, no matter it was, and whatever the

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 1>topic was, they never agreed on it. And then I

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>was brought in to be the deciding vote one way

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>or another. But yeah, I remember Reggie poor performance and

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really Kobe. It was shock, I mean Shack

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>those are incredible numbers. If he made sixty percent of

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>his free throws, he would average forty points a game.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah po Yeah. At two thousand Lakers Pacers shack led

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 1>both teams in scoring and rebounds in all six games.

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>He also he averaged thirty eight points seventeen rebounds. The

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>second best guy in his team was Kobe at fifteen

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>points per game. Yeah wow. And you can't. We watch

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>him on TV, but when you stand next to him

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like you'd just you can't imagine going in and trying

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>to score on him, or or what it's like to

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>have him come down the lane like he's just he's

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>bigger than what you think. And you you and you

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>think he's big, He's bigger than that. Uh, let's see

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Nick and illinoisl squeeze in here. Nick, what's on your

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>mind today? Buddy? What's going on? Guys? The first time

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>caller six one two? Hear me? Yeah, guy, okay, uh sorry,

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>my best Paul. I'll enjoy this one. Buddy, and I

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>got tickets to I saw you football the play into

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas State in the middle of September. We're looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Keeping out in September twelveth for that upset

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<v Speaker 1>and then Dan, I just had a couple opinions on Rogers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what his deal is. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>were so close to get into Super Ball last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They were a bad cornerback play away, you know, minus

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the play where they should have maybe

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<v Speaker 1>scored the touchdown instead of kicking the field goal. Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>King got burned before half against Scottie Miller, and then

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<v Speaker 1>after that field goal they got uh, you know, third

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<v Speaker 1>and long, I think, and Kevin King blew it again,

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<v Speaker 1>so right end of the game. So you know, outside

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<v Speaker 1>of losing his all Pro center, he's got the best

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver in football. He gets buck dr backs, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the things are there. So I don't know what his

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<v Speaker 1>deal is. Why he's got to be um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>prickly in a sense of what's going on. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's so close. So I just think that that is

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<v Speaker 1>irks me a little bit. So all right, well, thank you, Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how getting tickets to a Southern Illinois

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<v Speaker 1>game can be the best of the weekend. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>if they're sold out a hook kept in m oh Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking that games at Kansas State, Yeah, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>big one. Yeah. I don't understand the Rogers situation. I

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<v Speaker 1>just know that the best chance for him to win

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<v Speaker 1>a championship, a super Bowl in the next couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years to me is in Green Bay. You're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to Kansas City, ain't not going to Tampa. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know the real story will emerge eventually. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did you want to embarrass the Packers? Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make them uncomfortable? Just come out and say you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be traded. If that's the end game, then

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<v Speaker 1>just say that, get to your new team, get started,

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<v Speaker 1>get moving. If not, then just okay, go in swallow

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<v Speaker 1>your pride a little bit, knowing that you still win

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<v Speaker 1>in this unless there's something that we don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>you ultimately you want to win another super Bowl, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it feels like I don't want to win another

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl if it means that the front office is

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<v Speaker 1>going to win a super Bowl like it. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand the logic. Yes, the Packers bet on

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love, they bet against you, absolutely, no question, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you proved everybody wrong with the MVP. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>move on either with the Packers or ask for a trade.

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