WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Another Road Bump

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<v Speaker 1>The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>November two, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode number fifty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. We're Alive

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<v Speaker 1>from the s WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, Nick

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<v Speaker 1>and Dave are joining me. Amber quit. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with all of this now. She really didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She just out today she'll be back tomorrow, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure say you can't say that. I know, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure believe it. I'm sure tomorrow she's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>fire that will just kind of be spraying out. So

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you're tune into Mart here whatever has to

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<v Speaker 1>say about the game from yesterday. But Cowboys lose twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three nine to the Philadelphia Eagles. It was a game that,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, was a positive, I know, as much

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<v Speaker 1>as of a positive as you can get out of

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<v Speaker 1>a loss. But they did play better than what I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen over the last at least since since since Dak

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<v Speaker 1>has been out. And so we're gonna break it all

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<v Speaker 1>down for you. We're gonna start what we normally start

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday's following games. I want to ask you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think it's the biggest storyline coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of this game. We'll start first with you, Nick. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the quarterback was as I wrote my and my column,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the quarterback was was really bad. He missed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of throws. And then and then I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about de Nucci and who also was bad and missed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of throws. It just came down the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I wrote yesterday, a decent quarterback performance wins

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<v Speaker 1>the game a decent and they didn't have it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't expect it to be that great. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it just it. He wasn't ready. He wasn't ready. He tried,

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<v Speaker 1>he fought, you know, he gave, he gave it as all,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just he wasn't ready. And that's it was

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<v Speaker 1>just unfortunate because that game was for the taking. If

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<v Speaker 1>they had a better, better quarterback play, I think Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Dold wins that game easily. If it's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think easily, and I think Dak and then blow him out,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how bad Philadelphia wasn't how bad they played. Yep, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the biggest storyline for you? Well, I'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>my storyline, but yeah, it reminded me of the first

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<v Speaker 1>Philly game last year. You know, Dallas really needed to

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<v Speaker 1>get right game and they got the takeaways they needed

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<v Speaker 1>right off the bat. They had Dak and they did

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<v Speaker 1>blow Philly out. So I mean, I agree if you

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<v Speaker 1>get if you get that performance with a more competent quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably do win going away. Which to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my big takeaway is if the defense plays

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<v Speaker 1>like that the majority of the way, the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the way, like they should be in every game that

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<v Speaker 1>they played. I don't know if that means they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win more than four or five games, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the effort was there, the takeaways were there, the limiting

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<v Speaker 1>big plays was there. Um, I guess I'm stuck weighing, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how much of that is the defense turning

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<v Speaker 1>the corner and how much of that is Philly being atrocious.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize this until after the game. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>should have. I knew Carson Wentz turned the ball over

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. He's got one hundred and two turnovers in

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<v Speaker 1>less than five full seasons of play. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>that's just uh, I know you've looked at Dacks that Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, I'm just I'm just saying, I'm sure when

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<v Speaker 1>you did that, you gotta look at dacks numbers. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean absolutely, and they I mean they're not even,

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<v Speaker 1>They're not close. I can pull them up right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Dakas and picks, yeah, fumbles and picks. Um, Yeah, dak

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<v Speaker 1>is a Dack is a full thirty behind Das. Dacks

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<v Speaker 1>at like sixty, Daks about sixty, and Carson Wentz is

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<v Speaker 1>at one hundred and two, which the point is his

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<v Speaker 1>career too. Yeah, yeah, good Dave. The guy, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>just loves turning the ball over. And so I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here thinking, like, okay, okay, defense, like four takeaways, that's

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<v Speaker 1>more than you had all season coming into this. If

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<v Speaker 1>you give us that kind of effort, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can expect to be in most of the games You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play the rest of the way. But is that

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<v Speaker 1>realistic or is Philly just awful? That's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grappling with this morning. Yeah, I agree with you

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<v Speaker 1>that Philly is awful, But I look back at two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago when they played a Washington football team and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Allen that were equally bad, and they made them

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<v Speaker 1>look like a really, really good offense, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>do think there was some improvement from the standpoint of

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. And I don't think it necessarily had all

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the fact that Philadelphia has a bad offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some of it had to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the Cowboys played better football than they've been playing.

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<v Speaker 1>It started off kind of rough in the running game, particularly,

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<v Speaker 1>and as the game war on, you started seeing Layton

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<v Speaker 1>come around and play a little bit better. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>a tank make some plays at different moments of the

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<v Speaker 1>game in the run game as well as the past game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think all over, I look at this defense

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the positive I came away with. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, right now, and this might be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really I don't really care as much about

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<v Speaker 1>wins and losses, Like the wins and losses don't do

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<v Speaker 1>a ton for me at this point with this team,

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to see is I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>do they have who are the pieces that need to

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<v Speaker 1>stick around for next year. I want to see if

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<v Speaker 1>this coach can get a team that is by all

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<v Speaker 1>accounts done to still play as though they're not done,

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<v Speaker 1>because that'll tell me a lot about him and his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to coach. And yesterday I saw some of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that made me have a positive feeling about this team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair. All right, let's go ahead and move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about some of the moments that mattered. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start off with the first win, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go around and we'll do a few that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>saw as well. It was the first quarter. Dallas was

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<v Speaker 1>up three to nothing at this point. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>series following the forced fumble and recovery by Donovan Wilson, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, was a heck of a play by

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<v Speaker 1>young man. I mean, just the ability to have the

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<v Speaker 1>closing speed to get to the quarterback, hit him, knock

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, lose and recover it. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>all really really great play by him. And they got

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<v Speaker 1>the possession the ball at the Philly twenty five, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's second and goal at the Philly seven. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>still gets beat by Brandon Graham, gets a sack, forced

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<v Speaker 1>fumble and recovery, no point points and at least to possession.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave Philly its first touchdown. To me, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first moment that mattered in that game, because they

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<v Speaker 1>were in position at that point to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take at least a sixth nothing lead, maybe getting the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone. That was I think it was the closest

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<v Speaker 1>they got all day to the end zone at the seven.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry, First and goal at the four at

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth, yes, and that to me, and I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say that one of my five players done to forget

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<v Speaker 1>was the play before the fumble three yard loss by Zeke.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, first and goal in the four. You

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<v Speaker 1>can do so many things, but when you get a

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<v Speaker 1>three yard loss, well now you have to throw it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that kind of open that up. I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>first down getting stuffed like that really changed the whole

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic though, And I mean he got hit right in

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<v Speaker 1>the hole there. Yeah, And I want to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about Zeke. We'll talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>his performance yesterday. But to me, that was the first

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<v Speaker 1>moment in this game that really really mattered, Dave, what

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<v Speaker 1>can I just can I just say that was the

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<v Speaker 1>only moment that mattered. I really believe that, really, like

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<v Speaker 1>we can go through the hole. Yeah absolutely, I really.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sign hyperbolic, but when they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a touchdown there, I was like, they probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>win this game. Like because with the amount of things

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<v Speaker 1>that are against you, playing Ben d Nucci, you get

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<v Speaker 1>gifted an opportunity like that and a chance to go

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<v Speaker 1>up two possessions right off the bat. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>changes the entire dynamic of the game. Philly's playing catch

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit earlier. You can try to control

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<v Speaker 1>the game with your run game, and you know to

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<v Speaker 1>think that you're gonna trade points with a team that

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<v Speaker 1>has its preferred starting quarterback. Even as bad as Carson

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<v Speaker 1>Wentz was, and he was very bad, he made the

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<v Speaker 1>plays down the stretch that mattered, And I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>if going up multiple possessions changes the dynamic of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought that possession was so important. I tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>this out and I don't know what you guys think,

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<v Speaker 1>but but when it was I might have been first

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<v Speaker 1>and goal to four, or maybe the play before I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is absolutely man, Dave, I said, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is a fourdown territory. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is you have to get a touchdown here because you

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<v Speaker 1>just got a gift. Like he said, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>gift and you gotta go score six. Nothing doesn't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything for me. I mean, I guess it in hindsight

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<v Speaker 1>would have been nice, but I mean just saying you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go get a touchdown, And so I wondered if

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<v Speaker 1>they were thinking that way too. It didn't matter because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fumble. Yeah, and to be honest with the

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<v Speaker 1>end and you mentioned that play before where they got

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for a three yard loss. It's hard to even

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<v Speaker 1>look at that and say, well, should they have done

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<v Speaker 1>something different? Nothing was really working offensively. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have a lot of great options there. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you could have said, do you want to throw

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<v Speaker 1>into the end zone? But then you know, you get

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<v Speaker 1>sack fumbled the next play, right, So it's it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know that there was a better call.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're just working with such limited parts at

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<v Speaker 1>this point that you just kind of have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with what you have to deal with, And especially with

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Denucci, I just don't think he was ready for

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of game at this point in his career. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, you have to help him, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they tried all those trick plays and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love. I love that they weren't willing to

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<v Speaker 1>just say next man up, and they actually tried some

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<v Speaker 1>different things. So you know, the double reverse right off

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<v Speaker 1>the bat that worked, and then maybe a fake reverse

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<v Speaker 1>to Tony Pollard. Nothing else really, but you have to try. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to try. I would have you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you guys are gonna be surprised, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>have tried to flee flicker. I would have How did

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<v Speaker 1>I know that? Somehow you would have tried to flee flicker.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whose moment is Big Day's back, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go ahead and go with you, just to

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<v Speaker 1>be sure. There is here. I hear Kelsey is Kelsey

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<v Speaker 1>in there? No, yeah, Kelsey's here. She's working on something else,

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<v Speaker 1>but here on the show. I know, right, No, I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to not be mad at her, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think she killed my I think there's too many people

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<v Speaker 1>using the network here. But that's okay. We don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. Well, maybe both of yells should

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<v Speaker 1>be on the same show, and then maybe we would

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<v Speaker 1>have this problem. I'm just saying, but go ahead. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think everybody on here tweeted about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a bunch, I saw Brian brought us tweet

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<v Speaker 1>this play. So this is this is kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>easy one. Um. But you know, they get an interception

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<v Speaker 1>by Digs in the third quarter, up nine to seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could tell they came out in the third

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<v Speaker 1>quarter and they had a plan. Okay, we're good. Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>for nine, Zeke for six, eight, Polo for seven, Poulot

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<v Speaker 1>for two, Paulot for nine, Zeke for two. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>second and eight to twenty six. Let's run a double

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<v Speaker 1>reverse to Cedric Wilson to try to throw it. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets a ten yard loss for ten yards by Fletcher

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<v Speaker 1>Cox and that changed everything. They ended up kicking a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal and missing fort two yards. Buy Zeroline missed it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, put it would have put them up twelve seven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big deal. When you're down fifteen to twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and you're driving at the end of the game, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little different scenario there. So I just thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you could keep running it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like it was cute, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was too cute probably at that moment I said

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<v Speaker 1>it last night though, would anybody have been mad if

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<v Speaker 1>they had just kept running it? Like, even if it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work, just just run that thing until you either

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<v Speaker 1>score points or you're forced to kick a field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>And it would probably have been shorter than fifty two yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, right, And even if you take a negative play,

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<v Speaker 1>your negative play is maybe a negative three, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a negative ten, right, so you at least are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get at this point, you feel like avoiding a fumble,

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<v Speaker 1>you at least are gonna get three points out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And they end up with you know, nothing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was the part that was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>hard to swallow on that. Yeah, what would you would

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have liked to see them just at that

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<v Speaker 1>point just keep running it, I think so, I mean, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a little and and I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some the fake reverses work a little bit too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because you just got your eyes move in

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. I mean maybe maybe a Denucci roll out there, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it would have been would have been good.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, man, what y'all think about that block by

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<v Speaker 1>Schultz that was called for holding? You remember that anything

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't see? Yeah, I didn't see. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>old I didn't I didn't either, I didn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was watching it. I was like, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what Mickey is saying right now. Mickey was like, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know they never hold it. But uh, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good block by Schultz. I mean, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>where are the hands, like where you know? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>it on the outside. Sometimes I just thought he did

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<v Speaker 1>everything you were supposed to do. What I think happened there,

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<v Speaker 1>in my personal opinion is you saw there at the

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<v Speaker 1>end the defender kind of jerked away, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>when he jerked because of where the hand placement was

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<v Speaker 1>when he jerked, I think the ref just was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course he's holding him for him to have to

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<v Speaker 1>jerk away like that, And so I think that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>what ended up happening, whether he was holding him or not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, refs look at things, they look at little keys,

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<v Speaker 1>and based on those keys, they make calls, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what happened, especially when they're standing on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline of a team that's yelling. Hold, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that happened. Yeah, if you're on that sideline, you're definitely

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get that call. Ye all right, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>random question for y'all, Sorry, Eric, did Did did Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard take any Wildcats snaps last night? Because I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel like he should have. Yeah, I do too,

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I didn't see that. Like the guy's got juice.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like he had more juice than Zeke last

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<v Speaker 1>night and Zeke well, okay, well we can get I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying maybe that might have been a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll say this. Why did it seem like every Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>snap took an hour and a half to get there

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<v Speaker 1>and it was off to the to the side, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like every time zenot the ball, it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, let me go get It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>back to him, it was kind of I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been people for weeks, there have been people

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter that are like, Beyondish's snaps take forever to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the backfield like that. That has been a

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<v Speaker 1>thing if you you know, if you're following on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, maybe something for him to work on.

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<v Speaker 1>Work on that. Joe Looney told me, I think I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week. Question is what position where? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Yeah, there's there's a lot of stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about on that offensive line too, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to some of that a little bit later as well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's really not Derek. There's one thing to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the right tackle position. But okay, well let's hold

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<v Speaker 1>that thought because I actually have some thoughts on that

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<v Speaker 1>particular position and it's not gonna be what you think,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk a little bit about that. I keep

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<v Speaker 1>point at you because I want you to know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. God, it's well, it's it's my fault

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<v Speaker 1>that my signal cut out. For the millionth time. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>But even with everything else, like, I still think if

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<v Speaker 1>they managed to score a touchdown on that possession on

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<v Speaker 1>the Philly in the Philly red zone instead of fumbling

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<v Speaker 1>it away, I just think you change the entire complexion

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<v Speaker 1>of that game. Because I know, you know, Dallas took

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<v Speaker 1>a lead at halftime, and they have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>go take a lead if if not for the Cedric

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson play. But I just think you're in such a

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<v Speaker 1>better position to win if you're up by two possessions

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<v Speaker 1>and you can kind of dictate things as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>having to figure out ways to trade scores with Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what they wound up having to do. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if I could have one thing back, it's that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not even close. Yeah, ye, all right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take our first break when we come back. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get Dave's moment that matter, and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into some performance reviews. There are lots of guys

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<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about, including Zeke, including Amari Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>and we certainly will get to this offense in line.

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<v Speaker 1>Mortgage Studios at the Star. Dave told me in the

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<v Speaker 1>break that he's already talked about his moment that mattered.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we hit the two that I think most

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<v Speaker 1>we all agree were the two biggest moments of that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna go ahead and move on to the

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<v Speaker 1>performance reviews, and we'll start first with Ben Denucci. He

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty one to forty fifty three percent completion rate,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty yards, zero touchdown, zero interceptions. Sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four point six was his rating, and he rushed five

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<v Speaker 1>times for twenty two yards. How surprised were you that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't run him more and they didn't throw down

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<v Speaker 1>feel more? Knowing that going into the week, what we

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<v Speaker 1>heard heard about him was that he has a big

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<v Speaker 1>arm and he can run. Now, those were the two

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<v Speaker 1>things that it seemed like the coaches were saying about

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<v Speaker 1>him that others who have scouted him have said about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Were surprised that they didn't do more of those two

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<v Speaker 1>things with him, Nick, I don't know if they had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time to throw the ball down the field, Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they could have done a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>of that, Um, Tony, the wind was kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>issue down there. It was. We saw that on the

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<v Speaker 1>kick ye long Ki Yeah, I mean it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was different. Um, you know, I remember one

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<v Speaker 1>roll out with him that they they you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>designed run. But I just think they were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>protect them. Mean, I thought he was gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>little better than that, you know, I kind of he

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me. He does remind me a lot of Romo

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in his career. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>Romo had played his first year, in his eighth week,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably would have looked like that. Yeah. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just and I asked this to Dave and Rob earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he ever make one throw that was like that

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<v Speaker 1>was a good throw? It's so funny. I asked the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same question Amber last night after the game. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, can you point to one throw last night?

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<v Speaker 1>I meant, one throw during that game that you look

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<v Speaker 1>at you're like, huh okay, really good throw. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>remember a single one. That doesn't mean it did to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't remember a single one. Yeah, I don't either.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dave maybe had one. I'm I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna say they were good throws. I just he

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<v Speaker 1>had two or three completions past the sticks to Michael Gallop, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twelve thirteen yards. That that's all I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that they were like amazing throws, but

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<v Speaker 1>he tried, and I mean I had that was more

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<v Speaker 1>or less. That was more or less exactly what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would look like. Like. He carried the ball

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<v Speaker 1>five times for twenty yards. I think he had another

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<v Speaker 1>carry called back by a penalty. They tried to do

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<v Speaker 1>some you know, read option keeper to keep the defense. Honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he threw he threw at least two shots

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<v Speaker 1>down field, and I think they were both to Gallop.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them never had a chance, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>other one was incomplete. And I mean, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's just kind of what you're supposed to expect

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you're playing a seventh round rookie in

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<v Speaker 1>his first game. And I think, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that. I think a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>not like making fun of him, but I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that was like gamesmanship, you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallop and Dalton Schultz are like, oh yeah, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>this kid can sling it. I mean, because at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have to lose? But if you were

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<v Speaker 1>expecting bend Nucci to go in there and throw for

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<v Speaker 1>three thirty, I just think your expectations were out of whack. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And to be honestly, I wasn't necessarily even expecting completions.

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<v Speaker 1>I was expecting them to give it a shot, like

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<v Speaker 1>take some opportunities to try to just get him down field.

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<v Speaker 1>They did Max protect quite a bit last night, so

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was at least once or twice during the

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<v Speaker 1>game they would max protect and try to get the

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<v Speaker 1>guys two guys maybe even running down feel maybe even three,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe using Scholtz if you if you want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>one tight end back and have Scholtz going up the seam.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought at some point would do something to

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<v Speaker 1>try to really test and challenge the Philadelphia defense downfield.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just didn't seem like they really did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they didn't think they had time to do that

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.919
<v Speaker 1>without him getting killed, which that's a legitimate concern. We

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.440
<v Speaker 1>saw it happening on a few plays, but I wasn't

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.119
<v Speaker 1>a little surprised. Let's move on to Zeke Elliott. He

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 1>had nineteen carries for sixty three yards, an average of

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.280
<v Speaker 1>three point three. My question for you guys, or are

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys getting the most out of Ezechiel Elliott. They

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>really didn't use much in the screen game. I think

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 1>they may have had one screen that they tried the

0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.280
<v Speaker 1>whole game. It doesn't seem like this season he's been

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a great receiving option out of the backfield. A number

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of balls have kind of hit his hands, but he

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:44.480
<v Speaker 1>hasn't made the catch. Doesn't make many guys miss or

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.000
<v Speaker 1>break a lot of tackles anymore. And I've noticed in

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of games, I've been kind of paying

0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 1>attention to it. I mean, in players where he manages

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to get to the safety, it's not a lot of

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.639
<v Speaker 1>times when he makes that safety miss where he breaks

0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 1>that safety tackle. So the question is, do you think

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys getting the most out of Ezekiel? That's possible, Dave,

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 1>not even close. You know, I like Zeke. I think

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>he's a good player, but he's he's a very good

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>running back who he is not in the mold of

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>a running back who can do it all by himself.

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't. You don't hold your breath when he

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>gets the ball, you know, you know, I doubt he.

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he definitely hasn't had a gain of more

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>than sixteen seventeen yards this year, and I would guess

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>he's probably only had about five of those in the

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:34.880
<v Speaker 1>last three years. You know, it's infamous at this point,

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>but Stephen Jones maybe two years ago called him the

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 1>straw that stirs the drink, and it's just not true.

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not anymore. It might have been at one point,

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>but you know, they've scored fewer points in the last

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>three games than they did during the final quarter of

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott's time, you know, twenty four points against the

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Browns in the fourth quarter, I believe in twenty two

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>since he got hurt. This is Dak Prescott's offense. And

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel can still be really effective when everything is right

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:05.719
<v Speaker 1>around him, but he's he's not the guy that can

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>do it all by himself, and that Hey, that sucks

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>because he has to right now and be it sucks

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>because of you know, the contract that he's playing on.

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>But it is what it is. Nick, Yeah, I agreeing

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>with everything him. He's not He's not stirring it right now.

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of watered down. He's not doing he's not

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>doing that. And I think he's trying to do a lot.

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's trying to. He's the only guy that

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>they really you know that they have it now. I

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>mean they have Pollard and they can you know. I

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>like what they kind of mixed it up a little bit.

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I didn't think Zeke played a bad game.

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I hope my expectations aren't lowering to the point where

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>we were like, oh, that was okay. I mean I

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>thought it was, you know, it was okay. You know,

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I look at his stats right now, he's on pace

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to barely get a thousand yards. But no, it's not

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>that's not good anymore. Enough of the Moneys No. Five

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>twenty one is his rushing yards. I look over at

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Philly Miles Sanders and he's at four thirty four did

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 1>not play the last two games. Now, yeah, at least two,

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe three. He's got seventy one stories and uh and

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Zeke has one hundred and thirty two. I mean so,

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I don't think Miles Sanders is a

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>great dynamic back, but you know, I just think that

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Zeke he's It's just there's no balance anymore. There's no

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>balance with with the offense. And when they had balanced, boy,

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he was he was as good as that, you know,

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 1>as he could be. And I think he's gonna I mean,

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's done. I mean I don't. I

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think that at all. I just think this offense

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 1>needs to get back, uh, get their players back, at

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>their pieces back. I mean, I think he can have

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a really great year next year when they have when

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>they have their guys back. But I think right now

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>is this tough sledding. Well, what you're seeing right now?

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you put more? Glad Dave? No, I mean I

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>want to, I don't. I don't think he's done either.

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I still think he's a good player, but he's he's

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>not the guy who can still be productive with nothing

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>else around him. You know, maybe obviously he's hurt right now,

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>but you kind of saw se Quon bark do that

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:02.239
<v Speaker 1>when he was a rookie. You know, he's a guy

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that's capable of doing two thousand all purpose yards on

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a trash offense. And I just think, you know, I

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>think Zeke needs good quarterback play and better offensive line

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>play to be as successful as we're used to seeing.

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.959
<v Speaker 1>Which there's nothing wrong with that. That describes a lot

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of running backs. That describes most running backs. But it

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>hurts that he's on this contract and isn't capable of

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>manufacturing more on his own. Yeah, and those guys that

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 1>did Barkley, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, bad teams good you know,

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>great players. They can break long you know, long runs

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.199
<v Speaker 1>or long passes and whatever. You know, they get chunk yards,

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and you were not seeing that at a Zeke at all.

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Twenty four yards is as long as play this season.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you put more blame on his abilities or on

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact that there are so many injuries on the

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>offense right now? Dave, I mean, it sucks to say, because,

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>like you would expect more from a guy who makes

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 1>fifty million dollars a year. But I think it's more

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>about what's not around him, Like he doesn't have a

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.479
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that scares defenses, or he didn't last night. At

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>least maybe he can get that back to some degree

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>with Dalton, But he also doesn't have an offensive line

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that can open that can open it up for him. Um,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>which for the tenth time, you know, you would think

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.959
<v Speaker 1>that a guy who commands that kind of salary can

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>do a little bit more on his own, but it's

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>just not the case based on what we've seen so

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>far this year. I don't know. I mean, what was

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the actual question. Do you think this is more about

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 1>his abilities about the injuries? Yeah, it is a combina.

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a combination of both. I mean, it is this

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:48.959
<v Speaker 1>because the injuries are affecting the passing game, which affects

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the running game. You know, it's like it's like it's

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a domino effect. But I think that, but he wasn't

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.239
<v Speaker 1>really lighting it up before Dak went down, and they

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>were getting yards in the passing game, right they were.

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>They were throwing the ball all around the yard, and

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't really lightening it up. He wasn't having the

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of games you're like, Okay, Zeke is a like

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>he is the straw that ur starts to drink, right, Yeah,

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean I think, like I said,

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the balance of the offense. It's just

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>it's just out of whack right now. And you know,

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm just not at a point I maybe

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm delusing them, but I'm just not at a point

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>where I just don't think that that he's got it anymore.

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't I think that that you know, you need

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>because because you say, well, he wasn't really lighting Yeah,

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they were passing it, but I mean this team can

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>pass block decently decently. Yeah, they give up some big plays,

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>but like they're not I mean Lionel and tyring or

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>malling people on the on the old line, they're pushing

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>people back. They really affect the running game more than

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're they get credit for, all right,

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:50.800
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0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:52.560
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<v Speaker 1>He had five targets, he had one reception, he had

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>five yards. What's going on with Himri Nick? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been their only receiver that's been, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>productive this whole year. And he hasn't been dynamic. He

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>just catches a lot of passes, and you know, he's

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>been a true possession receiver this year. I can't answer this.

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I would have thought, you're a guy that's averaging ten

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>yards a catch, almost eleven. He's your best route runner,

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>he's got really good hands. I would have thought he

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>would have been, you know, Denuci's best friend in this

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>in a game like this, I can't tell you that

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I was. You know, from my view, I didn't have

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know where they rolling people over the top

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>one him. I don't think so, because I know they

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>were trying to stop the run. So I I just

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I can't give you a good answer there.

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I just thought they I mean, if five targets, so

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that's they're trying to just didn't. I don't know. I

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>don't even remember the catch, honestly, one for five. I

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>don't even remember it. So that's unfortunate. Ain't know. And

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>CD as well, I mean, he didn't he didn't do

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>anything either. That's two games in a row he's only

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>had one. Or that's two games in a row where

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>he's had a total of one catch yep, Dave, Yeah,

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'd love to go back and watch it.

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Would I would love to say, like, well, yeah, the

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Eagles doubled him and took him away and made de

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Nucci look somewhere else. I have no idea if that's

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>true with you know, to Nick's point, it seems unlikely. Um,

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>part of me wonders, you know, maybe de Nucci just

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it's i mean, obviously he felt comfortable throwing to Michael Gallop.

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that because he felt more comfortable looking at that

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>side of the field. Did he feel more comfortable with

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the routes? It's it's hard to say on Monday morning

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>without having watched the game back. But that's one of

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>those weird situations where I'm like, you need you need

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>more than one catch for five yards on five targets

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>from Amari Cooper. But it's also been to Nucci running

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the offense, so you know how how mad am I

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>supposed to get. Although I will say, you know, they

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>schemed up easy throws for Gallup. I think Gallup caught

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>at least two bubble screens, you know, like the Nucci

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>just turns and fires manufacture some easier touches for Amari Cooper. Again,

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, for the ten millionth time, where's the jet

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>action in this offense? Like? Why do they hate it

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>so much? Especially because now that training camps over, we

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>can actually talk about it. They did that all the

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>time in training camp. They had like every every damn

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>receiver on the team got reps taken jet sweeps and

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, end a rounds moving across the formation. It

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>seems like it never happened now, I know, you know

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>CD's done it a couple times. I would do it

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>with everybody, especially in a game where I don't trust

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>my quarterback to throw down fields. So yeah, you want

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>more from Amari Cooper. I would love for Kellen Moore

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to find more creative ways to get him the ball too. Yeah,

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>especially when you really don't know if you can run

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball that well up the middle. I mean, it

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>just kind of loosens you up a little bit. But

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I said something wrong. I apologize about ceedee lamb have

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>one catch. He had four for twenty seven. I was

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.879
<v Speaker 1>going off a different stat there. Four for twenty seven

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 1>in the game. Not great, but but certainly not better

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>than one for It's certainly not one catch. Yeah, but

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean the fact that you know, if you're going

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in and said, well, the guy that's leading the team

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 1>and catches, he's on like a record pace. To Amari

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Cooper to think that he would have half as many

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>catches as you know, Treyvon Diggs, as that's not what

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>you expected. I saw something on Twitter. This is not me.

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Somebody on Twitter said, man, the connection that Wins and

0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Treyvon Diggs have or is this really specialty? It was good.

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the offensive line. They allowed for four sacks,

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>two forced fumbles, seven quarterback kits, eight tackles for a loss.

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys blame a lot of this stuff that

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>was happening, particularly in the passing game where the offensive

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>line would be involved. Do you blame that more on

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line? And do you think Denucci was holding

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the ball too long and that was creating a lot

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of the pressure more so than guys just running free. Yeah,

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that that clock that he's used to it. James Madison

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is different the same. You know, this is not an

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>excuse at all. Well, no, you know what, screw that.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>It is an excuse. The guys never played ever in

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I mean preseason games. You can say they're

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>boring and you don't like them and all that kind

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. They matter to Ben Denucci, they matter to

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Terrence Steele. They mattered to these guys that have never

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>played before, and now all of a sudden they're playing

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday night football for the first time. I mean,

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you call an excuse if you want. It's reality. It is.

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>The speed of the game is different. It's than it

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>is from Alabama to the Cowboys. It's way different from

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>James Madison to the Cowboys. So yeah, I think him

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>holding onto the ball and maybe having a little bit

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>more faith in his offensive line, you know, I mean,

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a combination of everything. But the line

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>isn't great Philly. You know, they're gonna get after him,

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 1>and they did. Mark Cooper said after the game, He's like, yeah,

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>they got after him. He's like, well, why would and

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you? Is what he said. It was like,

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got a rookie. Yeah, they're gonna attack him.

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, so I put a little bit on the

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>news cheap, but I mean it was it was the

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>old line as well. I mean it was it was

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a there was a fight and that that was not

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>an easy task for that that that group. Dad, what

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>were your thoughts in his offensive line that game for them?

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we knew it was gonna be a challenge,

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Like we talked about it all week. You know, Fletcher

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Cox and Brandon Graham is a pretty terrifying combination. Low

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and Behold. That's exactly. You know. Vinny Curry was involved

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>in a couple of those pressures, but like the you know,

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the right side of the Cowboys offensive line took the

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>brunt of that. Which it's easy to hate on Terrence Steele.

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, he deserves criticism. The coaching staff

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>deserves criticism. For you know, why they're so infatuated with

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>starting him. I will acknowledge. You know, maybe it just

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>looks like a different kind of train wreck if you

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>kick Zach Martin out to tackle and let a backup

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>deal with Fletcher Cox. I mean there's no there's no guarantee.

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's there's no guarantees that would have looked better.

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>It might have just been a different it might have

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>been a different sort of disaster. But you know, I uh, yeah,

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus and I know that they're not the Gospel,

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>but Pro Football Focus charted Terrence Steele with seven pressures

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>allowed and three of four sacks allowed on the night.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just that kind of night, and

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it's something you got to take a hard

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>look at. With t J. Watt coming to town on Sunday,

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>that's um, that's not exciting. Yeah, pretty good. We're gonna

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about that a little later this week. But I

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>remember Nick that Saturday, I think of Saturday you and

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>our text, and I was like, man, I'm sitting no

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>such sitting there watching the Steelers play, and I was like, man,

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I hope the Cowboys quarterbacks, whoever that might be, I

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>hope they got their life insurance paid up, because this

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>is not going to be fun for the quarterback of

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys come Sunday, because right I don't know what's

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>going on to day. But even if the Cowboys had

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>all of their offensive line intact, I still would be

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>worried about the quarterback of the Cowboys going up against

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers. That's how good their front is. And by

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the way, they can they can get after you with

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>their front and then they blitz other guys. So it's like, yeah,

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be this is gonna be interesting. We'll have

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about as that as that comes on.

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>But let's move up to the defensive side of the ball,

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>because I do think there were some positive things that

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>came out of this game from the defensive side. Let's

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>first talk this big picture from the standpoint of the

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>run defense that has been a big problem for the

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys over the last several weeks, so much so that

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that the Sunday Night Football Crew had to make an

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>entire graphic about it and talk about just how bad

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.919
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys run defense has been. That all being said,

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>they only give up one hundred and nineteen yards four

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>point six average do you think that was more about

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they were really doing a decent job

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>stopping the run, or that maybe Philly just wasn't running

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>it enough. Nick, You know, they ran twenty six twenty

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>six rushes. I don't know, it felt like and I

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>guess four point six yards. It felt like five yards.

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Every time they were getting the ball. It just it

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>just seemed like the line just moved back. I mean,

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>those guys, they don't have anybody up front, any defensive

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 1>tackles or anybody that's just kind of like, you know,

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>hard to move. You know, they just they move them,

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>They get them out of the way. People were getting

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>down Tarypoe out of the way, and then the Cowboys

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>did too. But then but it was Woods and all

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>those guys they stand there, they just get moved, you know.

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think I saw more recognition problems from the

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 1>linebackers in this game. I mean, I thought Jalen it

0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>just it just doesn't seem like he recognizes it this

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 1>quick is you've got to get there. I don't even

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>know what to say about Jalan anymore. Like, I just

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I think the recognition is a problem. I think he

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>can't get off blocks. I think once he does get

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 1>off a block, he's slow to get there. Just I'm

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>having a hard time finding any positive qualities about what

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>he's doing in games right now. Every once in a

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>while he'll flash on a play and make I know,

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>there was one play yet last night where I think

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they got three yards on a pass route that he

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>covered and he made the tackle in the open field,

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, all right, that's good, that's a

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that's a great job by Jalen. But it's those kind

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of moments and then it's like the next play he

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>gets completely washed out because he doesn't know what's going

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>on and he just can't figure it out. Dave, what

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>did you think about? So can y'all indulge me on

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>this really nerdy analogy. Sure, y'all have both. Y'all have

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>both played like a Madden Dynasty or an NC double

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a franchise mode at some point in your lives. Right. Yeah.

0:40:55.840 --> 0:41:00.240
<v Speaker 1>So you've undoubtedly, like you know, you've had this season

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>where your quarterback is like in the Heisman race and

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you're just chasing those stats like you're gonna throw for

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>like five touchdowns a week. That's just what you're gonna do.

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>And every now and then, like you run into a roadblock,

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like maybe you throw an early picky. You know you're

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>not having a good game, and you're just like, screw it,

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna double down, Like I gotta get these numbers.

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna win the damn Heisman Trophy regardless of how

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 1>little it sens sense it makes to keep throwing the ball.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what I thought Philly was doing last night, Like

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>run the fricking ball. I'm sorry, no disrespect, no disrespect

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to the Cowboys defense, but like, I don't think they

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>played that well. I mean, defending the run. They did

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of great stuff. I don't think they played

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that well defending the run. I think Philly was just

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with trying to get Carson Wentz into a rhythm.

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 1>They're like, this is our franchise guy. He's gonna go

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 1>into the tank if we just make him hand off

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>all night. We gotta get the passing game going. Like

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>there were so many series where I was just like,

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Doug Peterson, what are you doing? Like why are you

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>so insistent on putting this game in Carson Wentz's hands

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>when you don't have to? So credit to the Cowboys

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.720
<v Speaker 1>for defending what was there. But I think if Philly

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 1>had just been like, we're gonna run this thing down

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>your throat, I'm not convinced Dallas would have been able

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>to do anything about it. I love that analogy because

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>it's so fair. Like I thought coming out of the game,

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the defense played pretty good, and then when you look

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>at the stats and see what happened in the rushing game,

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you're like, maybe Philly should have run the ball a

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. And if they would have run the

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>ball a little bit more, this would have been a

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 1>much different Monday morning assessment of this defense because the

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>big plays that were made most of the time were

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>being made in the passing game you had. And we

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>got to point these guys out. Donovan Wilson, as we

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier, in his big play there early in

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the game, Trayvon digs two picks. I don't I mean,

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember last time a cowboy had two

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 1>picks in a game. I assume you know, Nick, because

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>it's probably on the top of your head, but I mean,

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy that had given me that's what Actually,

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that's right, two thousand loves Well, that's the last time

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a rookie has done it right rookie, Yeah, but I

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>don't Yeah, I don't know. But but Trayvon Diggs, he'd

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 1>given He gave up some plays last night, no doubt about.

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>He get up a touchdown. I think you have two touchdowns.

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Actually he had four pass defenses. But he is the

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:21.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of player that that what I'm starting to like

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>about him is, Yeah, he's gonna have some struggles and

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna be times he's gonna frustrate you. My

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>hope is that over time those things will decrease a

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit, just because he'll be smarter about how he's playing.

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>And then if he gets beat, he just gets beat,

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>because you sometimes get beat. But then he'll give you

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the other plays on the other side. And that's what

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have not had at the cornerback position for

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a very very long time. He's Larry Brown. If you

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>really want to take it back in nineties. What what's wrong?

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.399
<v Speaker 1>He's better than Larry Brown. He's better than Larry Brown.

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Nick Okay, I mean he's gonna be better, way better

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>than Larry Brown. In my opinion. I don't know. I

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know that, but I'm saying Larry Brown. I mean

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>it was it was okay. Well, I mean there's sorry

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>for the young folks are like, who's that? But like

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<v Speaker 1>you no, he I'm just saying he everybody knows Larry Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he was okay. I mean like he had some moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Those cornerbacks that take chances, I mean that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, um, I compared him to jen Norris Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's kind of that type of guy where yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll get a pick six on you and he'll he'll

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<v Speaker 1>get they'll be a pick six go on the other

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<v Speaker 1>way too, because because he because he got burned. I mean, um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he takes chances. He's gonna give up some plays.

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<v Speaker 1>He's young, he's aggressive, but he's got good ball skills.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's played in the yard with an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver, you know, Stefon dig So. Um he can catch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's not many cornerbacks that that I think

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<v Speaker 1>make that second in It tracked that really both interceptions. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he tracked that ball really well. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't know if most people watching it realize

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<v Speaker 1>the level of difficulty of a play like that when

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<v Speaker 1>you're tracking the ball as a defender that's going that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going down. Feel a long deep pass like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an easy thing to do. No, No, he really

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<v Speaker 1>made a nice play on that ball. And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course the first interception was was outstanding, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>getting his knee in there like that. I'm surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>they even review that. I mean, yeah, they well had

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<v Speaker 1>a quick review like they were. They were look very

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<v Speaker 1>briefly makes a score, so they have to write, they

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<v Speaker 1>have to internal. Wish if all reviews could be like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I love everything, Sorry, I love everything about

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<v Speaker 1>that dude's demeanor. No, I love his demeanor so much,

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<v Speaker 1>like because I've been worried about it all year, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it would be easy to go in the tank with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the setbacks that he's had, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't had cheeto for most of the year. Ab

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<v Speaker 1>was out, So as a rookie, you don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>veterans there to help you pick up the slack, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna get targeted every week. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>had some rough days and he just he bounces right back.

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 1>He gets burned by DK Metcalf, he punches the ball

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<v Speaker 1>out like he's got the wear with all to not

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<v Speaker 1>give up on that play. He bounces right back and

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<v Speaker 1>gets two interceptions, gave up two touchdowns. Like definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>the prettiest night, but he never seems phased by the

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<v Speaker 1>bad stuff that happens to him. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas has not employed a dB with ball skills like

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<v Speaker 1>him in the time that I've covered the team, like

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<v Speaker 1>no Chances. They have not employed a cornerback who can

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<v Speaker 1>make those types of plays on the ball since I've

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<v Speaker 1>been here. So you know, I'm not ready to say

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be a pro bowler, but I'm very encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>about his trajectory. And if he keeps this mindset where

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't let the setbacks get to him, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a real chance to be special, right because

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of times this year when you

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<v Speaker 1>see when you see him give up big plays, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about him either not knowing what he's supposed to do

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<v Speaker 1>or not relying on his technique the way he should.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are correctable things, in my opinion. Those areas why

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<v Speaker 1>I expect him to get better with more reps. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I look at him and I say, if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets that kind of stuff cleaned up. Then, Yeah, cornerbacks

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.240
<v Speaker 1>give up plays. It's going to happen. The best cornerbacks

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.399
<v Speaker 1>give up plays. But I think the number of plays

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<v Speaker 1>that he'll give up will diminish, And I think he

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<v Speaker 1>will diminish significantly once he knows what he's doing and

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<v Speaker 1>once he really is trusting this technique the way that

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>he needs to. And then on top of that, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the ball skills to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>turn the ball over. So I love where he is

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I just hope he doesn't let all the

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:19.840
<v Speaker 1>adversity get to him. And it doesn't seem like he is.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like he's a guy that kind of stays

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<v Speaker 1>even killed no matter where. All Right, we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>guys join us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll do a

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<v Speaker 1>big picture look around the Cowboys and where they stand

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC East, and then we'll start hopefully getting

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<v Speaker 1>you guys ready for the upcoming game this next weekend

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<v Speaker 1>against Steelers. We'll do that tomorrow for Nick even Dave

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<v Speaker 1>him and I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break

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