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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace breaking news tonight. Did a

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Speaker 1: mother in law help the so called moscow mule mom

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Speaker 1: poison her hobby dead and did the very same moscow

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Speaker 1: mule mom openly stayed she'd be better off quote with

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Speaker 1: her husband dead just before he is dead. Good evening,

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Speaker 1: I'm Issy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us.

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Speaker 2: Corey Richins calls police to her Utah home for her husband.

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Speaker 2: Eric Richins, is found dead in the early morning of

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Speaker 2: March four, twenty twenty two. Corey had given Eric a

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Speaker 2: drink a Moscow mule before bed. She then spent part

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Speaker 2: of the night with one of her three children, who

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Speaker 2: had a nightmare. The night of his death. She said

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Speaker 2: she returned to their bedroom at approximately three am. He

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Speaker 2: was called to the touch and she called nine one one.

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Speaker 2: Eric had five times the lethal dose of fentanyl in

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Speaker 2: his system, which had been ingested orally.

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Speaker 1: Wow, five times a lethal dose in his system. That

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Speaker 1: combined with what prosecutors are saying that the children's book author,

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Speaker 1: Oh by the way, that book was about her children

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Speaker 1: grieving after the death of their father. Did she actually

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Speaker 1: say her husband would be quote better off dead before

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Speaker 1: killing him? That's what prosecutors claim. Joining me in, I'll

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Speaker 1: start panel to make sense of what we know right now,

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Speaker 1: but I want you to see some very un emotional

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Speaker 1: statements made by the so called Moscow Mule Mom.

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Speaker 3: What I have kind of found is, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of the three c's is how I visualized it,

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Speaker 3: and it's you know, connection, continuity, and care, and it's

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Speaker 3: you know, making sure connection is the one major one

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Speaker 3: in making sure that their spirit is always alive.

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Speaker 1: Okay, making sure that the dad's spirit is still alive.

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Speaker 1: I would rather have him still be alive. That clip

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Speaker 1: from our friends at Good Things Utah. But that's not all.

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Speaker 3: Listen explaining to my kids, just because he's not present

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Speaker 3: here with us physically, that doesn't mean his presence isn't

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Speaker 3: here with us, and he's doing these things with us.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure his presence will be with everyone in a

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Speaker 1: court of law when Corey Richards aka Moscow Mule Mom

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Speaker 1: is on trial for murder. Again. That was from our

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Speaker 1: friends at Good Things Utah, who coincidentally, and I would

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Speaker 1: say providentially, gave Corey Richards an interview about her new book,

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Speaker 1: Are You with Me? Guys with Me? And All Star

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Speaker 1: panel right now to make sense of the latest developments.

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Speaker 1: And it's so called Moscow Mule Mom case, the big

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Speaker 1: bombshell in my mind, and there's so many of them

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Speaker 1: as this case. Progressive to her trial is that prosecutors

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Speaker 1: apparently are alleging our suspecting that Corey Richins's own mother

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Speaker 1: had a hand in planning his death. Is that possible?

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Speaker 1: Would a mother aid in a bet and encourage her

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Speaker 1: own daughter to commit a murder? I find that really

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Speaker 1: hard to believe, but that seems to be what is

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Speaker 1: being argued. Listen.

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Speaker 4: Detectives are shocked to find Corey Richan's mother, Lisa Dartin,

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Speaker 4: was romantically involved with a woman she was living with

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Speaker 4: who suddenly and unexpectedly dies. The warrant states, and autopsy

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Speaker 4: found the woman dies from an overdose of oxycodone. The

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Speaker 4: woman was not addicted or in recovery and had a

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Speaker 4: legitimate prescription for the medication. Detectives say, accidental overdose seems unlike.

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Speaker 1: Okay, joining me in All Star Palins I mentioned, but

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Speaker 1: first I'm going to go to investigative journalist who worked

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Speaker 1: with People magazine and The Messenger, Elaine radiis Elaine, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being with us. What So, Corey

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Speaker 1: Richards's mother was involved with a woman and her lover.

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Speaker 1: The mom's lover died of an accidental overdose of oxy

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: That's right, that's what police are saying.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 6: It seems that in the course of their investigation they

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Speaker 6: discovered that Lisa Darden's partner unexpectedly died.

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Speaker 1: Now, Lisa Darden is Corey Richards's mother, correct, that's right. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Let me understand this. Corey Richins, so called Moscow Mule

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Speaker 1: mom is charged and heading to trial in the poisoning

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Speaker 1: death of her husband five times over a lethal dose,

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Speaker 1: not five times the legal limit. Five times over a

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Speaker 1: lethal dose. Okay, and now we find out what a

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Speaker 1: coinkydink Her mother's lover died of a lethal dose of oxy. Now,

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Speaker 1: let me understand one more issue regarding that prior death.

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Speaker 1: Elaine o Adias with US investigative journalist. The lover, the

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Speaker 1: mom's lover. She had not had any addiction problems, She

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Speaker 1: had never been in recovery, no prior suicide attempts. Has

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Speaker 1: She had a legitimate prescription for the meds.

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Speaker 5: That's right, she had.

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Speaker 6: She had a legitimate subscription prescription and so, but the

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Speaker 6: police have questioned that he died unexpectedly and interestingly, Lisa

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Speaker 6: is the benefit to Harry of the partner's estate.

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Speaker 1: Elame, are you telling me that Corey Richards Moscow Mew

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Speaker 1: mom mother lover died of an accidental OD with no

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Speaker 1: Lisa Darden, was the beneficiary of the lover's estate. That

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Speaker 1: is right, Okay, I'm sorry it sounds like I'm an

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Speaker 1: English teacher again diagramming a sentence on the blackboard for

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Speaker 1: my eighth grade students. But I just had to break

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Speaker 1: that down to make sure I understood what's going on. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And apparently there may be more Listen.

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Speaker 7: Text messages between Corey Richins and her mother, Lisa Darden

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Speaker 7: showed great disdain for Eric. On Lisa Darden's part, investigators

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Speaker 7: report that right before her significant other dies, Lisa Darden

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Speaker 7: is added to her will. Based on Lisa Darden's proximity

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Speaker 7: to her partner's suspicious overdose death and her relationship with Corey,

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Speaker 7: it is possible that she was involved in planning and

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Speaker 7: orchestrating Eric's death.

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Speaker 1: Before we even move a quarter inch forward, let me

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Speaker 1: just say that Cory Richinds's mother, Lisa Darden, has not

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Speaker 1: been charged, has not been named a suspect, a person

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Speaker 1: of interest, and her lover's unexpected overdose. Now that said,

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Speaker 1: this is what I think is stirring the pot of suspicion. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason investigators are concerned, and this is it. Listen.

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Speaker 2: In a six page handwritten letter, Richins instructs her mother

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Speaker 2: to jealousy, money, and Eric's partying that they don't want

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge in sadly an accidental overdose. The prosecutors have

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Speaker 2: asked the judge to restrict Richards from further engaging in

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Speaker 2: and brother. In the letter, Richins allegedly wants her brother

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Speaker 2: to say Eric told him he got pain peels in

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Speaker 2: fentnyl from Mexico, pointing out how Ronnie's testimony could make

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Speaker 2: the connection of Eric and drugs, that his testimony can

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Speaker 2: be short and to the point that has to be done.

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Speaker 2: Richins tells her mother to pass the information to her

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Speaker 2: brother in person that her home and phone could be bugged.

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Speaker 1: Okay, as we say in the courtroom, holy crap, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot. Let me understand this. Let me go to

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Speaker 1: a renowned criminal defense attorney. You know him well, Troy Slayton,

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Speaker 1: joining us from this Slaton Lawyers group out in La

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Speaker 1: Troy on a personal note, It's wonderful to see you

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Speaker 1: again now that that's taking care of you.

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Speaker 8: Tune in what Okay.

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Speaker 1: Troy, help me, help me because according to prosecutors, this

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Speaker 1: is not coming from me. I'm not dreaming this up.

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Speaker 1: According to prosecutors and cops, there was a six page

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Speaker 1: handwritten letter from Moscow Mule Mom and it instructs her

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Speaker 1: mother and brother to give false testimony. Okay, wait, but

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Speaker 1: about what she states in the letter. It comes down

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Speaker 1: to jealousy, money in Eric's partying, and sadly, an accidental overdose.

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Speaker 1: And she goes on to ask them to lie to

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Speaker 1: get her brother to say her husband, Eric obtained the

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Speaker 1: fentanyl that killed him from Mexico from workers at a ranch.

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Speaker 1: And she is instructing them in writing and writing Troy

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Speaker 1: in writing that that can connect Eric with the drugs

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Speaker 1: and can be short. She's even instracting them how to

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Speaker 1: say it short, but to the point telling her mom

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Speaker 1: to pass the info along to her brother verbally away

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Speaker 1: from the home because she thinks the home is bud.

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Speaker 1: This isn't conjecture. This is a handwritten note by mas

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Speaker 1: moscowmule mom instructing her mother and brother to lie under oath.

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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton respond.

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Speaker 8: The prosecutors are saying that she was trying to engage

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Speaker 8: in witness tampering, that she's trying to coach the witnesses.

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Speaker 8: But what her defense is.

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Speaker 1: Say did you say coach the witnesses. I'm sorry, Liz,

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Speaker 1: there must be something wrong with my earpiece because I

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Speaker 1: thought I heard him say she's trying to coach the witnesses.

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Speaker 1: This is not coaching witnesses. This is suborning perjury.

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Speaker 8: Nancy. What she's trying to explain the defense theory of

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Speaker 8: the case. She's trying to explain what her whole theory

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Speaker 8: of the case is and explain to her entire family.

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Speaker 8: You need to tell the story that you know. Nowhere

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Speaker 8: in that letter does it say I want you to

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Speaker 8: lie for me. Nowhere does it say I want you

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Speaker 8: to make up a story. She knows that everybody's going

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Speaker 8: to be reading her mail. She knows everyone's reading her

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Speaker 8: jail mail. That's why when she had a phone conversation

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Speaker 8: with her mom, she held up a message for her

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Speaker 8: mom to see because she didn't want to say things

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Speaker 8: out loud, because she knows everyone is listening.

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Speaker 1: You mean she didn't want to subborn perjury out loud? Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, I can see the argument that you would

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Speaker 1: make a trial crime stories with Nancy Grace. The prosecutors

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Speaker 1: were so concerned about the mother's involvement that they actually

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Speaker 1: and brother. Wow, okay, Mom and bro better be careful.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to be dragged into this thing too?

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Speaker 8: So?

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Speaker 1: Is it possible? Apparently prosecutors think it is that the

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Speaker 1: mother of Corey Richins actually had a hand in planning

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Speaker 1: Eric Richards's death. What more do we know? In court?

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Speaker 1: Corey Richins facing multiple multiple motions? Is it all about

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Speaker 1: money or is it also about love? Oh? Let me

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Speaker 1: rephrase sex.

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Speaker 9: Listen As investigators are looking over text messages from Corey

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Speaker 9: Richins to others, they find romantic messages written to a

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Speaker 9: unnamed lover, Corey Richins writes, I'm in love with a

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Speaker 9: man that's not my husband. In another text, I just

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Speaker 9: want to lay on the couch and cuddle you, watch

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Speaker 9: a murder documentary and snuggle. She also texts the unknown man.

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Speaker 9: If I was divorced right now and asked you to

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Speaker 9: make marry me tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You would.

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Speaker 9: Richard's allegedly asked this the day after Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, I don't know if I'm more angry about

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Speaker 1: the sex with the lover or wanting to watch a

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Speaker 1: murder mystery and snuggle what you may actually have emotional

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Speaker 1: intimacy with her boy toy? Are you serious? I mean

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Speaker 1: on the sofa snuggling watching a murder mystery That really

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Speaker 1: strikes sign with me.

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Speaker 8: What every person, every person that has an adulterous relationship

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Speaker 8: isn't a murderer. Adultery does not murder make and although

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Speaker 8: it may provide some sort of motive for investigators, there

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Speaker 8: are plenty of people all over the world, every single

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Speaker 8: day that are having adulterous relationships that aren't killing their

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Speaker 8: their spouse, So that's ridiculous. And with regard to her

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Speaker 8: being and with regard to the whole with subborting perjury,

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Speaker 8: I just wanted to say that most criminal defendants are

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Speaker 8: out on bail. This is somebody who's having to defend themselves,

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Speaker 8: defend their life on murder charges while being in the

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Speaker 8: confines of a jail cell. She hasn't been found guilty

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Speaker 8: of anything yet she's not able to help her defense team.

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Speaker 8: She's not able to marshal her defense in because she's

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Speaker 8: stuck in a jail cell.

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Speaker 10: You know what?

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Speaker 1: That was so complex with again technical legal term bs,

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Speaker 1: I really don't know which way to go. First, let

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Speaker 1: me try to do it chronologically. First of all, Troy Slatin,

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Speaker 1: But let me reverse that. Okay, true, every adulterer is

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Speaker 8: Are also cheating? Yes, Nancy?

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Speaker 1: what you know? Oh boohoo, Cory Riches is behind bars.

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Speaker 4: Prosecutor's working theory is that Corey Richins was facing a

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Speaker 4: The text says, I don't know what to do if

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Speaker 1: Got to be top notch careful. Okay, Justin Boardman is

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Speaker 10: There's not any perfect crime.

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Speaker 11: There's always a slip up, there's always something going on.

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Speaker 10: You were mentioning previous.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you are so right man. You've got a still

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Speaker 1: Back to Troy Slayton. Troy Slayton, you said sex is

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Speaker 4: In the investigation into finances, prosecutors find out that even

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Speaker 1: Elaine Aardillaz joining US investigative journalist. Elaine tell me about

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Speaker 4: Three days after Eric Richards dies, Corey Richins calls a

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold up, everybody, straight back out to investigative journalist

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Speaker 1: Elaine on Adias. So now Corey Richins is actually convicted

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Speaker 6: Corey thought that she was one step ahead of everybody.

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Speaker 5: But lo and behold when she goes to.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is a very dear friend and spokesperson

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Speaker 1: deceited victim. His name is Eric Richins, and he was

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Speaker 1: for being with us. What do you make of new

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Speaker 12: It doesn't surprise me given the family history and given

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Speaker 10: She was a disaster as a financial planner, and even.

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Speaker 12: The planning of this murder itself was botched so badly

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Speaker 10: The Utah State Prison. I hope shortly.

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Speaker 1: Guys. As you heard earlier, you heard Justin Boardman describing

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Speaker 1: time he died. Doctor Ernest Shoto joining us. Renowned to psychologist, physician,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Shiodo, thank you for being with us. Eric died

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Speaker 1: of five times a lethal dose. Explain what that is?

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Speaker 13: A lethal dose of sentinyl something that would kill most

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Speaker 2: Listen Valentine's Day twenty twenty, Eric Richins becomes violently ill

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Speaker 1: Latent criminal defense turning out of LA How many times

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Speaker 1: have you seen a case where one spouse ends up

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Speaker 8: That happens. But in this case, Corey Richardson's neighbors report

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Speaker 1: a very dear friend of Eric Richardson, Now, did what happened?

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Speaker 10: He was poisoned. It was a murder attempt.

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Speaker 12: He told people that he thought he was being the

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Speaker 10: He thought someone was trying to kill him.

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Speaker 10: He changed the way that his.

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Speaker 12: Bipele agreement was with his partner so that his partner

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Speaker 12: He changed his life insurance, and Corey had made some

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Speaker 4: a drawer next to her bed to make several incriminating

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Speaker 4: searches such as luxury prisons for Rich in America Women,

437
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Speaker 4: Utah Prisons, can cops force you to do a lie

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Speaker 4: detector test? As well as specific searches about how the

439
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Speaker 4: FBI conducts investigation searching when does the FBI get involved

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Speaker 4: in a case? And FBI analysis of electronics and investigations.

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Speaker 4: And there was a specific fentanyl search as well, what

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Speaker 4: constitutes a lethal fentanyl dose?

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Speaker 1: Wow? And Real Life Insure It's still pay if death

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Speaker 1: certificate cod calls a death says pending? Okay, Luxury prisons

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Speaker 1: for the rich in America women, Utah prison, can cops

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Speaker 1: force you to take a lie detect test? None of

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Speaker 1: that looks good. But one thing that really caught my

448
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: attention by that news blurb was Corey Richins keeps a

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Speaker 1: second secret phone. I just love it when defendants have

450
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Speaker 1: a private cell phone, a secret phone, a burner phone.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we just encountered that recently when to Kansas

452
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Speaker 1: moms are carjacked off the side of the road. Jillian Kelly,

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Speaker 1: Ronica Butler, and the purpse turned out to be the

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Speaker 1: mother in law, her boyfriend and others, and they all

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Speaker 1: had burner phones. I can tell you this much, it'll

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Speaker 1: be a cold day in he double l that fur

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Speaker 1: doesn't fly if my husband marches home with a secret

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Speaker 1: cell phone. Justin Boardman, you're the former detective from West

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Speaker 1: Valley CDPD Special Victims Unit helped me out there secret

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Speaker 1: cell phone?

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Speaker 10: Uh huh no, not at all. Absolutely, that is.

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Speaker 11: Makes you go hmm right, And certainly you're going to

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Speaker 11: try to get and see if you can find that,

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Speaker 11: to see if you can get any data.

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Speaker 1: Well, they got data, all right, justin Borman, they sure

466
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Speaker 1: did so, Troy Slayton, Now you're telling me that the

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Speaker 1: prior Valentine's Day poisonous sandwich doesn't really mean anything. That

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Speaker 1: he nearly died and lived because he happened to have

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Speaker 1: his own epipenne with him, That the damning searches on

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Speaker 1: a secret cell phone mean nothing, That Corey Richan's telling

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Speaker 1: her friends that he's better off dead. None of that

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Speaker 1: means anything to you.

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Speaker 8: That all means something. That's all circumstantial evidence. But with

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Speaker 8: regard to the alleged prior plot, prior attempt at murder,

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Speaker 8: I've never heard of benadrill as being an antidote to fentanyl,

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Speaker 8: unless that's some sort of breaking medical news. I'm just

477
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Speaker 8: a jurist.

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Speaker 1: Doctor. It's an antidote to an allergic reaction.

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Speaker 8: That's right, an allergic reaction, not an overdose of fentanyl.

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Speaker 1: I doubt when he was grasping for gasping for breath

481
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Speaker 1: and his throat was closing up, I doubt he was

482
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Speaker 1: really thinking, Wow, how did this happen? The man is

483
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Speaker 1: just trying to breathe. He's having a horrible anaphylactic.

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Speaker 8: The EpiPen and the benadriyll saved him and he was fine.

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Speaker 8: So clearly he was having an allergic reaction.

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Speaker 1: So no harm done.

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Speaker 10: Okay, the search.

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Speaker 8: Terms that you mentioned, those aren't good facts for a defendant.

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Speaker 8: But many people have multiple phones. Some have a business

490
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Speaker 8: phone in a personal phone. So having two phones in

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Speaker 8: and of itself is not damning evidence of anything.

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Speaker 1: Do you have two phones two cell phones?

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Speaker 8: I don't. Personally, I don't have two phones.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious. You know another issue that you may

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Speaker 1: want to discount. To Elaine Ardiaz joining US Investigative Journalists,

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Speaker 1: what can you tell me about the night that Eric

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Speaker 1: Richards ingested a lethal overdose a fentanyl about specifically Corey

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Speaker 1: Richards's cell phone? Where was it?

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Speaker 5: Her cell phone was in the bedroom, and.

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Speaker 6: She thought that it was not tracking her, but the

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Speaker 6: cell phones don't lie, and once police were because she

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Speaker 6: told police that she was sleeping with her boys because

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Speaker 6: they had night terrors. And so it was at three

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Speaker 6: am that she discovered her husband dead in their bedroom

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Speaker 6: and I believe he was quote cold to the touch,

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Speaker 6: and so but police realized that she actually was moving

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Speaker 6: around based on the information that they were able to

509
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Speaker 6: get from the phone. So you know, what was she

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Speaker 6: doing during this time?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand specifically what you just said. You're

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Speaker 1: telling me that Corey rich has told investigators she was

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Speaker 1: nowhere near her phone, that her phone was actually charging

514
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Speaker 1: in the master bedroom where her husband died, that she

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Speaker 1: was down the hall sleeping with her boys who had

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Speaker 1: bad dreams, and that her phone was charging all night

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Speaker 1: long and she didn't touch it. Is that correct? Yes? No, yes, okay.

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Speaker 1: And isn't it true that, based on reports we are

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Speaker 1: getting from the courtroom, from official court documents such as affidavits,

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Speaker 1: that police say she was actually sending texts and receiving

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Speaker 1: texts and deleting those during the time when she states

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Speaker 1: her phone charging beside her husband's bed.

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Speaker 6: Yes, there are no texts from a block of time.

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Speaker 5: They have all been erased from her phone.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know another issue, Greg Scored is joining us

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Speaker 1: a friend of Eric Richins who died. I want to

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Speaker 1: clarify something else. You know. I thought that on the

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Speaker 1: first attempt, the first alleged poisoning attempt, that Eric used

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Speaker 1: his own EpiPen. He didn't even have an EpiPen. He

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Speaker 1: nearly died, and if he had not been able to

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Speaker 1: use his son's EpiPen, he would be dead. He would

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Speaker 1: have already been dead. But fortunately for him, his son

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Speaker 1: had an EpiPen. That's how he lived the first time. Question,

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Speaker 1: tell me if that's correct, Greg Scores. But also, what

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Speaker 1: is your understanding of the cell phone data against Corey Richins.

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Speaker 10: Well, we could go for hours on that.

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Speaker 12: I don't know whether and to what extent the EpiPen

538
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Speaker 12: actually saved his life, or whether it was just the

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Speaker 12: fact that he wasn't given a high enough dose of fatanol.

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Speaker 10: He was doing everything he could, including.

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Speaker 12: The benadrill and the EpiPen, to get out of the situation,

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Speaker 12: and maybe those were failed ways to save yourself from

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Speaker 12: a drug overdose. But the cell phone data shows that,

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Speaker 12: notwithstanding she was claiming to have been asleep in the

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Speaker 12: other room, she was moving around the house. And it's

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Speaker 12: very clear to those of us that looked at the evidence,

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Speaker 12: she was checking on the room. She was looking to

548
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Speaker 12: see how he was doing. She was waiting for him

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Speaker 12: to die and making no efforts to try to save him,

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Speaker 12: and finally didn't get to the point where she went

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Speaker 12: in and he was cold to the touch. She then

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Speaker 12: claimed that she was doing a CPR and whatnot on him,

553
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Speaker 12: but the medical examiner said nobody performed CPR on him.

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Speaker 12: That wasn't true at all, So the cell phone data

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Speaker 12: doesn't lie. She was moving around the house. She was

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Speaker 12: checking on him after she'd poisoned him, to make sure

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Speaker 12: and to find out how I give her attempted.

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Speaker 1: Guys, have you ever seen the movie The Liar or

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Speaker 1: Big Fat Liar?

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Speaker 10: Liar? Liar?

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Speaker 1: Yes is starred funny. I'll let Jim Carrey, Yes, And

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Speaker 1: no matter what was far of him, he had another

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Speaker 1: lie ready. He always had a lie with this sincere face.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. It's a fantastic actor. But I want

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Speaker 1: you to look at some very unemotional comments from our

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Speaker 1: friends at Good Things Utah.

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Speaker 3: What I have kind of found is as I mentioned,

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Speaker 3: and it's kind of the three c's is how I

569
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Speaker 3: visualized it, and it's you know, connection, continuity, and care,

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Speaker 3: and it's you know, making sure connection is the one

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Speaker 3: major one in making sure that their spirit is always

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Speaker 3: a life.

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Speaker 1: Explaining to my.

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Speaker 3: Kids, just because he's not present here with us physically,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't mean his presence is here with us, and

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Speaker 3: he's doing these things with us our friends at Good

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Speaker 3: Things Utah.

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Speaker 2: An anonymous witness who told COMPS she was at the

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Speaker 2: rich AND's home when Corey began talking about wanting to

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Speaker 2: end her relationship with Eric, but she is frustrated. She

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Speaker 2: tells her friend she feels trapped in the marriage. Corey

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Speaker 2: Richards says to her friend, in many ways, she will

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Speaker 2: be better off if Eric Richards is dead.

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Speaker 9: The judge is allowing evidence Corey looked into getting a

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Speaker 9: divorce and had a law firm on retainer after receiving

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Speaker 9: a consultation, Corey allegedly tells her brother that she ended

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Speaker 9: the consultation because she didn't want half of everything and

588
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Speaker 9: wants to walk away clean and free prosecutors say she

589
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Speaker 9: wanted everything and to that end planned to cause Eric

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Speaker 9: Richards's death.

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Speaker 1: That's the prosecution's theory. The case has been in and

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Speaker 1: out of court on various motions. To Elaine Aidias, joining

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Speaker 1: US investigative journalist, I'm very curious about a party, a

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Speaker 1: big party that Moscow Mule Mom through after Eric's death,

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Speaker 1: celebrating a flip of a multimillion dollar home. She's a realtor.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me about that place he had been?

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Speaker 6: He was banking on this house. It was going to

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Speaker 6: add an influx of cash. And when she got the house,

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Speaker 6: she threw a huge party, invited lots of people, I mean,

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Speaker 6: just to the nines, everything she could. This is a

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Speaker 6: woman that liked the good life. He always wanted more.

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Speaker 1: Now, the flip of this home was something that Eric

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Speaker 1: Richins did not want. He didn't want to put the

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Speaker 1: money out there to buy the home for her to

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Speaker 1: then flip it and hopefully make a profit. He was

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Speaker 1: dead set against it. He dies, she does the flip

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Speaker 1: and throws a big booze fueled party. How many days

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Speaker 1: after his death? Alayne was the party?

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Speaker 5: It was within days, Okay, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Troy Slayton would argue that there's no playbook

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Speaker 1: for grief. Another second verse same as the first, but

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Speaker 1: Greg scored us friend of Eric Richins. Did you hear

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Speaker 1: about the celebration party complete with champagne and toasting music?

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Speaker 1: Good times? This was within I believe, the week after

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Speaker 1: Eric died.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and she's also made a plan Nancy to go

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Speaker 10: on a trip with her paramore in the.

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Speaker 12: Weeks after Eric died. She had already made the arrangements

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Speaker 12: for that. It's important to know that there was a

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Speaker 12: pre agreement, an agreement. He took certain assets out of

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Speaker 12: the estate that he brought in, as most prenuptial agreements are.

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Speaker 12: But the exception to that was if he predeceased her.

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Speaker 12: If he died while they were still married, she would

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Speaker 12: get much much more of his estate. And that's why

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Speaker 12: she repeatedly told people, and that's why we believe that

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Speaker 12: she caused his death, that he was worth a lot

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Speaker 12: more to her dead than divorced. Yes, she consulted a

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Speaker 12: divorce lawyer, but she learned from other sources that Eric

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Speaker 12: was certainly worth a lot more to her as a

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Speaker 12: widow than as she would have been as a divorce.

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Speaker 1: Proceever, Greg Cordis, are you sitting down right now?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Good. You may need to lay down because I just

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Speaker 1: went through my notes. The Utah mom accused of killing

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Speaker 1: her husband before writing a book about grief through a

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Speaker 1: massive party at her brand new two million dollar home

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Speaker 1: the day after he died. According to a report, Richard's

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Speaker 1: invited friends to attend acre property for drinking and celebrating.

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Speaker 1: This is on March four, just hours after her husband died,

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Speaker 1: and at the party, she toasted the closing on the

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Speaker 1: twenty two thousand square foot home the day after. Now

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how you're going to argue that,

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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, the day after, she's throwing a champagne soaked

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Speaker 1: party for closing the deal her husband objected to with

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Speaker 1: all of her real estate friends.

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Speaker 8: Really, I don't think that was planned following the death.

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Speaker 8: That was probably an event much in the making, an

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Speaker 8: event that was planned for weeks, if not months beforehand.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, when people pass away, life has to go on.

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Speaker 8: She's figuring that she's going to have to run her business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta uncorrect that champagne about ten hours after

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Speaker 1: your husband kills over Yeah, understand not. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: that at all. The guests of my fiance was murdered.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't even speak. I couldn't even think. No war

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Speaker 1: could come out, just crying, just crying, crying.

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Speaker 8: Everybody reacts differently. Like you said, there is no playbook.

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Speaker 1: For I was waiting on that last to doctor Ernest

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Speaker 1: Schioto joining us a toxicologist, physician and biomedical engineer. Doctor Chioto,

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Speaker 1: you were describing, like just a few shakes of the

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Speaker 1: salt shaker, fentanyl that could kill someone. Can you taste fentanyl,

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Speaker 1: for instance, if it was in a sandwich, or if

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Speaker 1: it was in a very tangy Moscow mule, which is

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Speaker 1: made with ginger beer, which is very very pungent, would

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Speaker 1: you be able to taste the fentanyl not the.

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Speaker 13: Well true to in this case ten milograms of fentanyl. No,

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Speaker 13: I do not think you'd be able to taste it.

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Speaker 1: This guy never had any idea what was happening. Corey

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Speaker 1: Richins is back in court. In the meantime, as her

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Speaker 1: case inches closer to trial, we stopped to remember an

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Speaker 1: American hero, Deputy Sheriff Ryan Clinkinbroomer, LA, just thirty deputy

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Speaker 1: Clinking Boomer shot and killed in an ambush. Engaged for

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Speaker 1: just four days, he leaves behind a grieving fiancee, Brittany,

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Speaker 1: his mother Kim, and his dad Mike, American Hero Deputy

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Clinking Broomer. Thank you to our incredible guests, but

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Speaker 1: especially to you for joining us here tonight and every

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Speaker 1: night as we seek justice. Nancy Gray signing off, good

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Speaker 1: night friend,