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Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network Talk Talk.

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Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who

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Speaker 2: talks back.

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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in for a

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Speaker 1: new episode of We Talked Back, We Talk Black. Your

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Speaker 1: host AJ Holiday, what's up.

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Speaker 2: Tam Bam, y'all, It's me Tammam. I love y'all.

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Speaker 3: Thank y'all for tuning in another week. We appreciate y'all

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Speaker 3: so much. How was your weekend?

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Speaker 4: Aj?

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's my birthday for d okay, and I feel

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Speaker 1: the say no, actually I don't. Okay. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: it for a second. So I turned forty on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, I had a migraine Saturday morning,

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning, Monday morning. But Sunday I never left the

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Speaker 1: bed and my whole right side of my body was

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Speaker 1: doing something like without me even moving. It was like

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Speaker 1: Paul satan All type of shit was going on.

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Speaker 2: Don't you take drugs on Saturday night?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't drink the entire weekend listen. I had

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Speaker 1: a very clean birthday. I went to my niece's graduation,

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Speaker 1: My youngest niece graduated from high school. Shout out CanYa,

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Speaker 1: congra baby on the stage. Okay, she graduated top of

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Speaker 1: her class and she better from Burke High School. Bitch,

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Speaker 1: you better be at the top of the mouth anyway, girl.

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Speaker 1: It was so ratchet. I feel like I was at

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Speaker 1: Coolie High. Okay. The graduation was Saturday, twelve o'clock. We

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Speaker 1: got there and I'm like, okay, are we at the

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Speaker 1: same event? Because why is bitch's ass out with baby

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Speaker 1: bumps in the front?

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Speaker 5: Like really?

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Speaker 1: And this is this is why later on in this

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Speaker 1: episode we talk about Sexy Red because I think they

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Speaker 1: was at the graduation. Sexy Red was at the graduation. Bitch,

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Speaker 1: you hear me? Who was looking like they was going

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Speaker 1: going to a cookout and then looking at you looking well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably they probably went straight from there to other probably

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Speaker 1: little family gatherings. But I fell out of place because

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Speaker 1: I looked like an adult. And this is one of

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Speaker 1: the you know, probably not the best school in Charleston.

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Speaker 1: Downtown Charleston is almost fully gentrified. This is the last

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Speaker 1: black school downtown Charleston. All the other elementaries no black students.

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Speaker 1: My niece's school only had sixty five graduates from it,

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Speaker 1: and I want to ask her, you know, what was

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Speaker 1: her freshman class number, like how many people was in

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Speaker 1: the freshman class to kind of gauge how many people

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Speaker 1: should have been graduating or maybe they just no longer

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Speaker 1: live in the city. But I mean, it was terrible, y'all.

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Speaker 1: And I this we got we got some big problems

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Speaker 1: in the black community, and this, this, this graduation was

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Speaker 1: just a sample size of some real bullshit. One of

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Speaker 1: the speakers is the president of Johnson C. Smith. She's

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Speaker 1: a Burke graduate from Charleston, South Carolina. Oh, I tell

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Speaker 1: you the ADHD in the building they sign and why

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Speaker 1: the lady is talking. It was so embarrassing. Who's going

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Speaker 1: to talk to the children if y'all niggas ain't Because

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Speaker 1: if these are the families that these kids are coming from,

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Speaker 1: if it's sixty five graduates, half of them probably doomed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because these are the families raising him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's some weird shit going on. A young

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Speaker 3: man his grandmother reported him missing over the weekend, and

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Speaker 3: he wrote a disc track.

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Speaker 2: He made a dis song to her and released it.

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Speaker 3: It was calling her all kinds of hoes and saying

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Speaker 3: he ain't missing he's just running up his bag fifteen

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Speaker 3: years old, calling his grandma the hole in the song

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Speaker 3: because she reported her.

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Speaker 1: I've seen that, and like he gonna pull up on

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Speaker 1: her with the blicky yeah.

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Speaker 3: And hurt his grandma for like reporting him missing is insane.

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Speaker 3: And where are the older men in his family who

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Speaker 3: are to course correct that, because somebody need to course

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Speaker 3: correct that.

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Speaker 1: But there is nobody, Nope, and even I know I

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Speaker 1: talked to you about this a little minute ago, but

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Speaker 1: this this dude in Charlotte murdered his forty three on

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Speaker 1: mom because she told him to go get a job

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Speaker 1: and killed me. He came back and shot her. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so now you don't have a mom to support you

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Speaker 1: while you're in prison.

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Speaker 3: Just you should have just went and got the fucking job, right,

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Speaker 3: because now you're going to hate. But I think maybe

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Speaker 3: this person must have had like some type of mental

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Speaker 3: health issues that wasn't being because who just killed their

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Speaker 2: It got to be something not right that correct.

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Speaker 1: That other boy was a rapper and he murdered his

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Speaker 4: Like, I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: That's so superath behavior behavior, because.

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Speaker 1: That graduation was disappointing. And you know, my niece, she

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Speaker 1: did her things. She's going off to Klafling University in Orangeburg.

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Speaker 1: She's a very smart girl. Like when I tell you

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Speaker 1: hood babies be, they gonna make it. They gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: So I wish that class good luck. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell y'all a dulting is scamming. It's a scam likely, okay.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, aside from that, my birthday was cool. We

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Speaker 1: had a good dinner and shit, I carry my masks.

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Speaker 1: Mab bitch, you ain't even had sex on my birthday.

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Speaker 3: Well you look, you look pretty. You posted some pretty pictures.

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Speaker 3: What did I do this weekend? Girl, I'm a hermit crab.

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Speaker 3: I staying in the house. Like the taste of Charlotte

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Speaker 3: was like I could see the taste of Charlotte from

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Speaker 3: my patio and it looked you're it down there. I

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Speaker 3: ain't go down there.

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Speaker 2: People say you're not coming downstairs.

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Speaker 6: No, no, thank you.

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Speaker 1: There's too many people.

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Speaker 3: It's all the fucking people. And I'm trying to lose weight.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to and I don't need to.

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Speaker 1: Spend my money. So oh, I had that already. I

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Speaker 1: had that before, I've tasted it. I've tasted all the

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Speaker 1: tastes I need. I'm trying to unbig my back. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into scenes of the week.

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Speaker 2: So if y'all were under a rock, y'all miss that.

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Speaker 2: Michael Rainie Jr.

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Speaker 3: Did Tyler James live stream and he was grown by

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Speaker 3: the streamer's sister live on the streaming. You could see

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Speaker 3: him like, go, my penis is being grabbed right now,

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Speaker 3: and she looking at him like what's up?

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Speaker 2: And shit went viral.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was talking about it. The young man, Tyler James

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Speaker 3: tried to blow it over at first, but it got

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Speaker 3: so much attention that he issued an apology to Michael

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Speaker 3: Rainie Jr. And then Michael Rainey Jr. Also said, you

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Speaker 3: know that he was stilling talk about what happened, and

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Speaker 3: basically he was he was gonna let it blow over,

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Speaker 3: but he felt like if it was the other way around, it.

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Speaker 2: Would be an issue, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: And it's not okay, and it ain't okay for her

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Speaker 3: to do that, to just grab that young man's uh

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Speaker 2: What's that nigga name, he would have kicked you in

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Speaker 2: the face. So what's his name?

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Speaker 1: Kevin Gate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Gates would have kicked you in the face.

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Speaker 2: You can't just be grabbing people parts.

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Speaker 1: Listen, what is The girl looked young as hell, She

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Speaker 1: looked younger than Mike Rainey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but very aggressive, Like her face was very like,

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think women actually have more more trouble

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Speaker 1: accepting rejection than men. M you know, because in our

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Speaker 1: minds not an hour because in that group, but in

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Speaker 1: some women's minds, you want to at least fuck me,

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Speaker 1: at least imagine somebody at the very least you want

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Speaker 1: to at least fuck me like that is definitely some

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Speaker 1: women's thought process. So when they are rejected, even for sex,

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Speaker 1: it's you're gonna have hell to reckon with as a

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Speaker 1: as a man. If it was on the other if

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Speaker 1: it was the other way around, he'd be in jail

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Speaker 1: right now, right That shit is never okay. Stop touching

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Speaker 1: people if it's not invited, man or woman, anybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And to do it on live and make him feel

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Speaker 1: visibly uncomfortable, you literally sexually assaulted him in front of

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Speaker 1: the whole world. You gotta be a shaming yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you ought to be embarrassed. I'm sure she is

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Speaker 3: somewhere embarrassed. She did not issue an apology. She's probably

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Speaker 3: somewhere hiding in shame for embarrassing her brother.

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Speaker 2: You know, he says she's no longer.

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Speaker 1: Michael Rainey's like, what makes you think you got access

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Speaker 1: to that, to that anyway? Like like this, ain't even

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Speaker 1: no regular at the house that might butt you down

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Speaker 1: right quick, right?

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Speaker 2: That was crazy to do it, nut, no pun intended.

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Speaker 1: It's nuts. So y'all the internet is getting even more spooky. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Meg the Stallion has a sex tape. It's not her, though,

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Speaker 1: It's an a I created sex tape of Meg thee Stallion.

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Speaker 1: Meg thee Stallion's performance of Florida proved more emotional than

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Speaker 1: most fans probably expected, because Meg barely held back tears

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Speaker 1: right before playing one of her hits. When the beat starts,

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Speaker 1: Meg tries to launch into the song, but can't even

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Speaker 1: herself once again. Her fans share on and writing added

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Speaker 1: the video by the person filming shows love for MTS,

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Speaker 1: so her fans didn't seem upset by the star needing

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Speaker 1: to let her feelings out, so she went and tweeted

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, It's really sick how y'all

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Speaker 1: got y'all way to hurt me when you see me winning,

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Speaker 1: y'all go too far, fake ass shit. Just know today

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Speaker 1: was your last day playing with me, and I mean it.

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Speaker 1: So somebody created a fake AI video of Meg thee

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Speaker 1: Stallion having sex. I hadn't seen it. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: try to look forward for real, even though I would

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Speaker 1: like to see you make the actual, the actual Maga

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Speaker 1: having sex. I would like to see that, but if

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Speaker 1: it's fake, I you know. But anyway, the amount of

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Speaker 1: people who thought that shit was real, who was talking crazy, yes,

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Speaker 1: saying crazy shit to her about how she all head

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Speaker 1: these crocodile down tears, and you wasn't saying that when Tori,

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Speaker 1: when you put Torri and Joe, it's that lady gets

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Speaker 1: too much hate. It's diskysting how much hate she gets.

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Speaker 3: But that's why I'm glass glad how blessed she is,

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Speaker 3: because the hate is equivalent to the blessings at this point.

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Speaker 2: It's just absolutely extreme.

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Speaker 3: What I'm you know, I hate that that happened to her,

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Speaker 3: but I'm glad it's not her real body, obviously, But

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Speaker 3: what we need to be concerned with is why are

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Speaker 3: we not out in the streets about.

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Speaker 2: This AI shit.

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Speaker 3: This ship is scared real and we are just very

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Speaker 3: very taking it on the chin, very much, taking it

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Speaker 3: on the chin that we are allowing this AI reality

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Speaker 3: to be a thing in our culture. It should be

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Speaker 3: demolished in some way. It's gonna take over us. We

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Speaker 3: are going to be second class citizens in our in

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Speaker 3: our country to AI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so y'all keep playing.

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk tweeted, you know how we're not tweeted he's

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Speaker 1: actually challenging Apple because they want to put chappie Chat

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Speaker 1: GPT onto iPhones, like within this new update, which is

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of shit coming with this new update

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Speaker 1: for iPhone. I'm considering switching back to Android because that

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Speaker 1: was never an Apple girl. Okay, I know business people

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Speaker 1: prefer Apple, but y'all might see this green bubble pop

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Speaker 1: back up on y'all shit. But yeah, like people don't

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Speaker 1: It does help move humanity forward some because we would

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Speaker 3: Right, And it's gonna a robot sitting outside your door

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Speaker 2: Then what you're gonna do?

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Speaker 1: They already have robots policing people. Yeah, places, Yeah, it's RoboCop.

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Speaker 3: This motherfucking robot car is our robot, bitch, And shit

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Speaker 2: See keep playing the only.

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Speaker 1: Thing I want to do with AI is make songs

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Speaker 2: That's the start of it. That is the start.

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Speaker 2: Do we have any other suits?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, y'all, I don't know. Do you do dating apps?

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Speaker 1: Or a scammer. Because the last dat and app I

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Speaker 4: Apps, right.

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Speaker 1: But okay, so you change your preference, I mean not preference.

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Speaker 3: That, but can't the men put is there a preference

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Speaker 1: I believe so you could put like what you so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe I think the men that you are

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Speaker 1: Right, Like who you're in right and I'm wondering if

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Speaker 4: What are you?

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Speaker 1: What do y'all really want? You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you have to start exploring. We don't have to. We

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Speaker 1: So that goes into a whole nother thing. Like maybe

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Speaker 1: that's what goes back to saying, like women, we don't

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Speaker 3: But just we imagine being mad enough about a dating

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Speaker 1: Y're not picking me?

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Speaker 4: Like what like what?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So I mean it kind of goes into our

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Speaker 1: Do you see online like where like let's say a

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Speaker 2: She's still a black woman.

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Speaker 1: That's still a black woman. And if that's that man's preference,

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Speaker 1: let it be. Is nothing you can do about it, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Y'all can't make people choose you other people you, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't make people choose you. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: I've never had I've never had those issues, so but

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Speaker 4: Bitch.

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Speaker 1: I've been getting the same I've been getting niggas with

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: It might have been a little slimmer at one point,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, likewise, I don't know, but let's get into that

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Call her colorism.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it when we get back, all right, guys,

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I brought on my good friend Teresa. I reached out

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Speaker 2: You grew up chocolate with light skinned sisters.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to talk about your experience as a

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Speaker 1: So y'all know, like in the black community, this is

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Speaker 1: some people act like it's a different race. Light skinned

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Speaker 1: So I definitely can't wait to dive into this today, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we're not busy going in with.

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Speaker 1: White people, guess what you're still in it to them.

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Speaker 3: It's like if I ride in a car with a

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Speaker 2: They're not just talking to me.

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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Teresa, yes, talk to us about your experience

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Speaker 3: Like what did you go through what'd you.

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Speaker 4: Experience, Well, I am the second.

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Speaker 1: Out of three girl syndrome to go ahead to.

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Speaker 4: The black sheep.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I never thought of it as being the

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Speaker 6: You could sit on the bed if you're light skinned,

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Speaker 6: It's just like they got praised because they were lighter.

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Speaker 6: And I accepted it after a while, but as a

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Speaker 6: So here I go with my Twitter fingers. Maybe people

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Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with you being light skin

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Speaker 6: why can't you do it?

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Speaker 4: Because you're light skinned?

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Speaker 6: Like he's human, just like the rest of us, what

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Speaker 6: grew up with a white family, So the black girl.

439
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 6: I'm like, both of those girls are black. What you say,

440
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 6: the dark skinned girl? So that bothered? That bothered.

441
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: Saying the dark skinned girl because you know that's still

442
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: her human experience as well, and how she felt on

443
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: that job site, right, So that now insert how you feel,

444
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: how she shouldn't feel is a projection act.

445
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a project because yeah, and I think, yeah, go.

446
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: Ahead, No, And I was about to say, I think,

447
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: you know, honestly, white people, you know, has caused this

448
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: division amongst blacks.

449
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: In the black community. Let's keep it real. They put

450
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: the light skinned ones in the house cause.

451
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: Their children and they had yeah, right right.

452
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: Well they know.

453
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Somebody is because how they got light and they caused

454
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: that divide.

455
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: People have always come in all shades colors, you know,

456
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: even if if you're just thinking about slavery, we've always

457
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: been different shades, right, So I don't feel like we

458
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: only got light because we mixed with European or Hispanic

459
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: or something. At some point. We've always been different shades.

460
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: Like I have some people in my family who have

461
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: green eyes, red hair, damn near albino looking, you know.

462
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: So black women are so amazing that we create all things, right,

463
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 1: So yeah, we could take it back to slavery and

464
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: absolutely some of them niggas in the house was the

465
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: slave master kids, right, But who created them? And they

466
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: know like after that, why do we have this this

467
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: thing between light skin and dark skin when.

468
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: Well, could you imagine I'd be mad at a bitch

469
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: too if I'm out in the field all day.

470
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: And she said, up in the house looking down at me, and.

471
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: That that definitely creates a culture of division between two

472
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: women who are the same. Essentially we are the same,

473
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: we just look different, and that creates a divide.

474
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: And I think it's just passed down.

475
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: And you know what, trauma is passed down in our

476
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: dm DNA Because even then your mom told you, don't

477
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: you ever say that, where did you learn that?

478
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: You know?

479
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: How did you subconsciously decide that you weren't enough? Was

480
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: it something that was already in you or is it

481
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: just learned behavior from society around you that makes you

482
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: feel that way.

483
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: I saw this video. I can't remember what it was called, unfortunately.

484
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: But it was where children were acts which doll was prettier,

485
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: and they were little little kids, and all the little

486
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: black kids said the white doll was better looking. And

487
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: it's like, what is happening in our society where that

488
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: is being taught to us consciously because we're not literally

489
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: watching nothing that says, hey, this white doll is better,

490
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, but there's some type of learned behavior that

491
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: is being passed down to us. And that's so, is

492
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: your mom light skin or your dad light skin? Because

493
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: I know you said your dad's side of the family

494
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: was you know, well, honestly, my mom and my dad

495
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: is my color. So and my sisters, I don't know.

496
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 6: My mom has light skinned sisters, my dad had like

497
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 6: has light skinned sisters, So maybe they got their color

498
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 6: from each side. But it's crazy. I hear the story

499
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 6: all the time. My first sister was born. She came

500
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 6: out seven, super super read. Yeah the milk.

501
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 4: She came out, of course, they said she came out

502
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: looking like my dad, But she was really, really really red.

503
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 6: And my dad he drinks, he has a little fun

504
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 6: and he went to the hospital. He was like, wake

505
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 6: your ass up, who bay is this? So my mom

506
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 6: was like, you know, she didn't want to hear it.

507
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 6: But when I came out, he was like, damn right,

508
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 6: that's my child right here, because I came out dark.

509
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: So it's just like, yo, they probably got their color

510
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 6: from the family, because of course, you know, sometimes things

511
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 6: skipped curations.

512
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's like one of my sig she's the

513
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: middle and she's the light skin baby, and my mama

514
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: has the most pictures of her. She had red hair,

515
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: light skin, and my dad's mom would say shit to

516
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: my mom like whose baby? This is? What's she get

517
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: that hair from? And what type of name is Amantha?

518
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Like this is how she would chast not chastise, but

519
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: like antagonize my mom about having this lighter baby. But

520
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: my mom's dad, I meanxcuse me, my dad's dad was lighter.

521
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: And I even realized that my daddy is lighter because

522
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: this nigga was working in the sun my whole life.

523
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: I thought he was dark skin until he retired, and

524
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: now he's like lighter than me at this point.

525
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: Right, he just had a.

526
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: My dad used to say, so, my mom's side of

527
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: the family is I'm probably we're probably the darkest one.

528
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Me and my sisters are the darkest ones in my

529
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: mom's side of the family. All of them are mixed

530
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: race and very fair skin. And my daddy used to

531
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: poke fun when I was a child and saying that

532
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: we couldn't go to my grandma's church because they have

533
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: a comb hanging down from the door and if you hear,

534
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: don't slide right through.

535
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: It walking to the church.

536
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: I would have got at the door to.

537
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 7: Me too, Okay, Okay, that's so stupid, that's funny.

538
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: But I used to I was a little girl, so

539
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: I used to be believing that ship he was saying that,

540
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: you know, like not understanding that. He was just making

541
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: fun of the colorism things that go on within a family.

542
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's funny out of all things.

543
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: So, what's the dynamic with you and your your lighter sisters.

544
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: So it's three of you, you said, and so you

545
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: have too older or you're in the middle.

546
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 6: So well, Tya, Teresa, Tracy, And honestly, I love my sisters,

547
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 6: but I really don't have a relationship with them. Yeah,

548
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 6: we'll speak, but it has nothing to do with the color.

549
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 6: It's just more so we don't have anything in common.

550
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 6: So that's why I labeled myself as the black sheep.

551
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 6: We don't have anything in common, but they have so

552
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 6: much in common. But like I said, I love my sisters,

553
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 6: but we really don't speak, but we're there for each other.

554
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 6: Y'all live in the same y'all grew up in the

555
00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 6: same household and father. And you don't feel like they

556
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 6: had anything to do with your internal issues about being darker.

557
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: Do you feel like they felt like they were better for.

558
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: Being like I don't. They never gave me that. They

559
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: never because no, they never gave me that.

560
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 6: But it's like I was the rebellious one, so I

561
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 6: could do anything and I'll get in trouble. But it's

562
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 6: me reverted, so she I got in trouble because I'm

563
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 6: you know, they're better than they think they're better than me,

564
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 6: or they never get in trouble because they're the light

565
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 6: skinned sisters. That's just how I felt growing up. And

566
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 6: you know, as an adult, I see now I was

567
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 6: a little badass, not bad, but I was rebellious. I

568
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 6: wanted to hang out with the killers and the drug dealers.

569
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 6: You know, I wanted to be outside when they did it.

570
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 6: They were homebodies. They did not you know, they didn't

571
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 6: get their tan they were supposed to get in the

572
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 6: summer time. But I look like I got burnt by

573
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 6: the sun. But no, they were not outside. I was outside.

574
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 6: So no, I don't think they never threw the colored

575
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 6: thing up in my face. I must say that they

576
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 6: never did that. It was just me and my own

577
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 6: you know thoughts, my inner thoughts or you know, because

578
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 6: I used to hear my daddy talk about my baby,

579
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 6: my baby, my baby. He never my daddy looked at

580
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 6: me as, oh you my nigga. But these are my babies.

581
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 6: That's how I grew up, you know. That's me and

582
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 6: my I must say my daddy is my best friend.

583
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 6: He never gave me that baby baby affection. He gave

584
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 6: me like you, my nigga, like you my we're cold

585
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 6: like that, Like you're the daughter I can go to

586
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 6: for anything. But the other ones are like my babies.

587
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 6: That's how I look at it. Maybe I could be wrong,

588
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 6: but that's how I think parents.

589
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 2: So you feel like you did.

590
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: I think parents do treat their children different regardless. Right,

591
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: everybody has a different personality, and he probably saw more

592
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: of himself and you while there was a different type

593
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: of you know, closeness with you as opposed to with them.

594
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: And then also it could be their personalities. Do they

595
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: act more delicate you're the rebellious one. Want to hang

596
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: outside with niggas? Yeah, I did, Like they're in the

597
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: house like you know, so I don't know, but I see.

598
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: I definitely see your perspective and how you would feel.

599
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's just I mean, that's just what it was.

600
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 6: I don't like I said, they never threw, They never

601
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 6: called me like black, because if anybody called me, you know,

602
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 6: how to be like with your.

603
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: Black cells, like.

604
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 6: I don't know, to be sorry, Yes that was a

605
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 6: black That was how I was like brought up in

606
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 6: school and stuff. If you the dark girls, the dark

607
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 6: girls were overlooked. It was like the light skin bitches

608
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: that were very, very very popular. But there has beens

609
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 6: now now the black girls are winning, like they wont

610
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 6: to slip pink.

611
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: All the coaches is pink on black light.

612
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's on the inside.

613
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: So you know, do you.

614
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: All think some of it does stem from like the

615
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: school time. Okay, so you got like the fine ass dudes.

616
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: They are after the light skin girls and a lot

617
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: of them. That's what we see now when niggas is

618
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: buying bitches because they didn't have access to the light

619
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: skin pretty girl you know, quote unquote in high schools.

620
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: So now you get the check, and now you can

621
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: add water, add money for instant swag, and now you

622
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: got the bitch you always wanted access to. Do you

623
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: think like the dating in high school where black women,

624
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: darker skinned women didn't feel chosen by men, Right, that's

625
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: really not a problem with the other woman. It's really not.

626
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: The issue really isn't with the lighter skinned woman because

627
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: she can't help who likes her. So in high school,

628
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: did you not, I feel like the guys like engaged

629
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: with you as much the ones you wanted.

630
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: So I didn't really I was.

631
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 6: My focus was cheerleading and the nigga i'm with today, Marcus.

632
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 6: I've been with him since I was fifteen, So I

633
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 6: ran behind one guy, damned in my whole life. So

634
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 6: I don't know, he was my main focus. I didn't

635
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 6: care about nothing but cheerleading in Marcus. Cheerleading in Marcus,

636
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: and he was pretty much the same as me, like

637
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: the dark skinned one in his family. Like there were

638
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 6: comments made about, oh, that's not my son because he's black.

639
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 4: So we pretty much can relate in that on that subject.

640
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: So so y'all had a trauma bond as kids based

641
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: on much, Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's how it was

642
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: because a lot of his family they're not dark like

643
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: me and him, but they're more like aj like the

644
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 3: caramel Tammy, the caramel color, not black like me and him.

645
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: Look like we shared a feel together picking cott and

646
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: that type of black. But no, but yeah, no, yeah,

647
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: we can relate on, you know, being called the dark child.

648
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: And at that moment, you know, growing up, I didn't

649
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: see nobody but Marcus, and in today, I don't see

650
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: I have a slew of color friends. I have my

651
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: red chicks, I have my darken chips chicks. But I

652
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: look at them, I don't see their color. I see

653
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: they're hard. I don't see people. It's I don't see color.

654
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 6: I can't say, oh, that light skinned girl over there

655
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 6: or that dark skinned girl over there. I'm like, oh,

656
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 6: look at that pretty girl right there. And I got

657
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 6: I hated to hear growing up. Oh she's pretty for

658
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 6: a dark skinned girl. That grind my gears. Why can't

659
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 6: she just be.

660
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: Because it's not color is your facial features, Because like

661
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: you said, you can be light skin and fair complexed

662
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: and not have nice features, right.

663
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: That just for me.

664
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: When I was growing up, I always considered myself dark skinned.

665
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: But much like your dad, aj, I spent a lot of.

666
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: Time me too.

667
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I was black as hell.

668
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: I was glad. I was black as hell as a kid,

669
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: So I didn't even know like this is my color,

670
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: my natural color until I got grown and stopped running

671
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: out there in that swim like.

672
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: But I used to be black from the eyes up,

673
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: like I was averigining. My oldest sister would be like,

674
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: you look like a damn aborigine. My forehead used to

675
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: be so black, y'all, and my skin just looked like dust.

676
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, it just looked like I

677
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: haven't played in dirt all day.

678
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: But I wasn't.

679
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 5: It was just dirt all day.

680
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: The tone, like the little red undertone was trying to

681
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: come up out of there. But it's just that something

682
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: beat me up. And I mean, I feel like you're

683
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more healthy. The darker the skin is

684
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: get all like the vitamin D.

685
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.

686
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen a dark skinned girl crack, you know,

687
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: like they say black don't crack and they meet and

688
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: there's there's a spectrum for that because.

689
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: The darker you are, the TIGHTI your skin stay. I

690
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: feel like you think. So you got absolutely okay.

691
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: I got one night I had since okay, and I

692
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: got botox.

693
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: Bit you, I don't know what I got up on

694
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: the hill y'all talk about.

695
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: I used to west Swop for years, and all of

696
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: years are frowning and crying behind fucking niggas. One day

697
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: I just started wearing my forehead out and I'm like, yo,

698
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: I got rainkos.

699
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 4: Wow.

700
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: So the melanin do protect you from that sun? Sunscreen

701
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: ain't nothing but liquid melon in as far as I'm concerned.

702
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 3: If you put it under a black light, it'll you'll

703
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: look black. So it's all it is is liquid melion.

704
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: Oh look, she's like interesting.

705
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 4: I never knew.

706
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I didn't hate that we black people

707
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: are facing so much shit in America, in this world,

708
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: because no matter the skin complexion, it's almost like we

709
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: hated across the diaspora. Right, So then for us to

710
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: be feuding amongst the different people of the different cultures

711
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: in the diaspora, then amongst the different subgroups, like we

712
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: are we doomed at this point. I feel I don't

713
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: think that black people will ever be on the same

714
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: accord collectively at this point, because we can't see past

715
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: all the little stupid, dumb ass idiosyncrasies within our community. Yeah,

716
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: like light and dark, yeah right, And I don't want

717
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: to be insensitive. I remember Tam and I had a

718
00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: guest on Doctor Orioo. She was a uh sexologist doctor,

719
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: but she started going into colorism and texturism and futurism

720
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and then, you know, I don't

721
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: ever want to make somebody uncomfortable, and I never not

722
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: want to validate, you know, someone's feelings on something in

723
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: particular you're experience. But if me and Tam really did not,

724
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: we kind of like swerve, swerve that fucking conversation right quick, right,

725
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: because no, we aren't light skinned, but maybe our experience

726
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: isn't the same. And we just couldn't have that conversation

727
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: with her because I really wasn't with the topic. What

728
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: were we talking about? We were talking about sex, you know,

729
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: so it started going into colorism. I'm like, oh shit,

730
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: because that is one of her other things. But it's

731
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: almost like you can't dark darker skinned women. You can't

732
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: challenge them in any way about that stuff, you know,

733
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: because I do feel like a lot of it is internal,

734
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, and light skinned women and it may have

735
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: very well been put on a pedestodair whole lives, but

736
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: is that their fault?

737
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: You know?

738
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: I have a friend. We had our odds right now,

739
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: so I ain't talk to that bitch and by the

740
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: month or so, but hey, Lisa, I have a friend,

741
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: right and she has a platform on social media and

742
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: she does like does like spiritualism and stuff like that,

743
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: and she is very, very smart. She's an intellectual, and

744
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: it's almost like you cannot be light skin smart. Funny.

745
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: The very first thing I always would see, because she

746
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: would on Clubhouse is where I met her. She'd be

747
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: running her rooms and I'll be just looking at like

748
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: what people saying in the chat. It would always be, oh,

749
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: how the fuck does she talk about this? She don't

750
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: even got she not even black. Her mama white. When

751
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: I tell you, her mom is darken than all three

752
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: of us. She's Jamaican. Her father is lighter, but her dad,

753
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: her mom is a black woman, and she looks exactly

754
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: like her mama. Future wise, future wise, the only thing

755
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: is the skin tone. But that would be the main

756
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: goal to and it would always be black women attacking

757
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: this lighter skinned black woman about her skin tone. That's

758
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: the like a goal to to offend somebody.

759
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: So do you do you?

760
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: Do you feel like or do y'all feel like? Was

761
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: the hate ever coming from lights lighter skinned women? Because

762
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: I had one of my homegirls cut this light skinned

763
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: girl hair in high school. So I would always see

764
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: the darker skinned women attacking lighter skinned women physically, verbally,

765
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: and it's like, bitch, you can't fight anyway. So now

766
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: they got to learn to fight because somebody's gonna try

767
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: them on a daily basis, because for whatever reason, within

768
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: the black community, we associate light skin with white.

769
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 4: Hmmm.

770
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right.

771
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: I can't remember a time where I felt like the

772
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: light skinned girl was the aggressor with a dark, darker

773
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: skinned woman, but they I have seen them be attacked

774
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: by darker skinned women.

775
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

776
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 6: Why my friend, my biracial friend, she's like, you know,

777
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 6: people I've seen when somebody tried her because oh, she

778
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 6: mikes white people can't fight. You know, we already have

779
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 6: the stereotype that we could beat they white.

780
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: People ask anyway.

781
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: But she is a certified beast with the hands. I'm like,

782
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 6: where the fuck did you come from? Yeah, that nigga

783
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 6: is in.

784
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: Why we ain't see and being able to whoop ass

785
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: with niggas because I don't see niggas gotta beat up

786
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: by white boys because they bite. Really, they do all

787
00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: the things to win the fucking fight. Okay, yes, absolutely.

788
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 4: Listen.

789
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: My boyfriend light skin and when I tell you he's

790
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: a light skinned nigga, what what?

791
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: What?

792
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: Drake said?

793
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm light skinned, but I'm still a dark nigga.

794
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: That's him.

795
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 6: Yes, I don't know why people do that because my

796
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 6: best friend, she has a little boy. Of course, my

797
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 6: best friend is like skin her. She has a child

798
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 6: with my cousin. He's red, not even a dirty red,

799
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 6: he's red. So they both have like a He looks biracial,

800
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 6: but he's not. But coming along, he was a little badass.

801
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 6: So he goes my boyfriend Marcus. I've never seen a

802
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 6: bad red nigga before. What you a little bad red nigga.

803
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 6: Red niggas supposed to be soft. I'm like, yeah, that's

804
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 6: just something.

805
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 3: You know, Marcus Michael Jackson was bad when he was brown,

806
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: when he was like.

807
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: It ain't nobody was whipping prints, okay, right.

808
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: A little ba Yeah, It's like wow, yeah, but that's

809
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: what It's just.

810
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 6: I think it's what was embedded in us was also

811
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 6: embedded in the white folks about well, what'sn't bettered about us?

812
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 4: About white people?

813
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 6: The same thing there were you know, oh those niggas,

814
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 6: and we're looking at all those honkys. It's just like,

815
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 6: I think it's a generational thing. Honestly, That's how I

816
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 6: feel about the light skin the dark skins. It's just

817
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 6: something that came from the older generation and it went

818
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 6: over and over and over and over.

819
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 4: So that's, you know, when.

820
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: I think of white people honky.

821
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 6: I'm back, I grew up with honky because I'm from

822
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: Holkes secretly loved black women in particular because that's actually

823
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 6: where the term came from.

824
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: So if you think back to like the days where

825
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: they had like the whorehouses and and and shit like that.

826
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: So the white men who wanted to trick on the

827
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: black women. They'd come past the building honked air horn,

828
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: So then the pimp would probably be like, y'all are

829
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: honky outside.

830
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: I never thought of that.

831
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: That's where the term honky comes from. Now, cracker comes from,

832
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: cracking that fucking whip.

833
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: Wi.

834
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, and I think that's why we feel

835
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: like we can fight.

836
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: Because we've been getting beats.

837
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: You got this motherfucker, you know. So I think that's

838
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: why we feel like we can take a whoop.

839
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: Slavery ended because we was fucking they ass up. Okay,

840
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: let them tell it, oh Lincoln it no, Okay, the

841
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: the fucking Haitians came over here. We was fighting them crackers, Okay,

842
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: that's why slavery.

843
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: Ended, fighting bad.

844
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: We was never laying down. And so there was some

845
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: people because we see niggas laying down today, okay, but

846
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: not not the majority of us, not collectively was. We

847
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: wasn't having it. We was definitely fighting and dying.

848
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: Right, So let's talk about all right, And this is

849
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: this is me being my ignorance, So y'all forgive me

850
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: in advance.

851
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: Listeners too, don't come for me.

852
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: Oftentimes, when I see that there's a mixed race child

853
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: or a mixed race girl, I'd be like, what color

854
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: was your mama?

855
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Oh, if the mama was white.

856
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: I view this person more as a white person versus

857
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: a black person, And I don't know if that's I know,

858
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: that's ignorant and it's probably not fair because.

859
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: We just saw that with the Drake and Kendrick, and

860
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: that's where I was getting into.

861
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: I was getting to Drake and Kendrick Lamar and how

862
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: Kendrick was like basically saying he's not black enough.

863
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: You know?

864
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: Is that a thing?

865
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: Do y'all feel like that's a real thing, you know,

866
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: to call somebody not black enough because of how much

867
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: who is black in the family and how black they are,

868
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: you know.

869
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 4: Well, that's how it is.

870
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 6: What one of my close friends, her mom is white,

871
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 6: her dad is black, But like I said, she fight

872
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 6: like a man, So I'm thinking it's stemming from her

873
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 6: black side. But then again, I heard stories that her

874
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 6: mama used to whoop ass in Germany, So I'm like, damn,

875
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 6: so your mama know how to throw hands, So yeah,

876
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 6: the white side of her, I guess, in the black

877
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 6: side of her, I think she just got it on it.

878
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 6: So I don't know.

879
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

880
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, like your day to day right, so

881
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead.

882
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 6: I yeah, she's my friend is It's like she knows

883
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 6: how to switch it up.

884
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: Like I could see when the family come around, there

885
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: is gathering and she's like, hi are you when when

886
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: I'm around, girl? What the yeah? What girl? What the

887
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 4: fuck you doing? So I see both switch.

888
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all yeah, we all had the code switch.

889
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: She just might have to code switch in a different way.

890
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 4: I don't.

891
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 6: I am not that girl. You're gonna get the same

892
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 6: lady every day all day. I'm just the same person.

893
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 6: I can't switch it up because I feel like I'll

894
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 6: be fake to myself.

895
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 4: I don't know why. I mean, I know how to

896
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: be professional, but I'm just the same.

897
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never worked a corporate job and not like

898
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: just maybe maybe by the month, and here it comes

899
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: trouble haircut. You fucking right, because I am a nigga.

900
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm a real nigga when I out clock out, So

901
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: piss me off in this office. I'm be on your

902
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: ass in the garage. I swear to god, I had

903
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: a nigga like I wanted him to pull up on

904
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: his white bitch. I used to work with not I

905
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: wanted somebody to do something to that lady. But back

906
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: to the Drake and j Coles, and I do feel like,

907
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: because like I always say, black is a culture, right,

908
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: anybody can be in the black culture. We try to

909
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: dismiss people from the black culture. But there are white

910
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: people who grow up in the hood. You know, there

911
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: are Hispanic people who grow and I hate to associate

912
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: black with hood, but come on, y'all, uh like, yeah,

913
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: it's just it is what it is. It's urban, right,

914
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: So because there is a different class, right of black people,

915
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: and they are light and dark. We're talking about the

916
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: Boulet and you know, the divine Nines, all the different

917
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, they they they have. I've read this book.

918
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: I started reading this book called Our Kind of People,

919
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: and it actually made a series out of it. I'm

920
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: gonna go back and watch it. But it talks about

921
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: the upper class Black American experience. But I do think

922
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: there's a difference between like somebody who's raised by a

923
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: black mother in comparison to someone who's raised by a

924
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: white mother, because you are more likely, as this biracial child,

925
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: to get a black experience over somebody who's raised by

926
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: a white woman like Drake is black and Jewish, which

927
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: is not a right. So he's black and white and

928
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: his are Polish, let's be very clear, okay. And he

929
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: was raised by his mom like his daddy was estranged

930
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: most of his life, so I associate him with that

931
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: Jewish woman, and Tam could tell you since the beginning

932
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: of since since we talked back conception, I have been

933
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: calling Drake the white man that infiltrated hip hop since

934
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: our very first episode, because that is exactly who he is,

935
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: you know. So we looked at different rappers like Eminem

936
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: and all these other people who are actually like ap

937
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: pairing presenting as white men. Drake was the unsuspecting white

938
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: man who studied hip hop like a college course and

939
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: he's perfected it and he's become one of the greatest.

940
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what about But here's the thing. J Cole

941
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: got napi as hell, right, and.

942
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: He just looks like a light skinning.

943
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: But but his mother is white.

944
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: But people don't give him, Yeah, he got a white mom,

945
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 3: So I don't feel like people give him that same

946
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: type of stamp that they give Drake for being white,

947
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: even though they have pretty much similar genetic makeup when

948
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 3: it comes to halfway, I think.

949
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: What it is is that Drake exploits the worst of

950
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: black culture. Right Meanwhile J Cole is more like some

951
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: people would call him a revolutionary or something like that.

952
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: You know, some people I don't think that he really

953
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: is on black struggle issues like that, Like he raps

954
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: about it, but what is he actively doing in regards

955
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: to it. So I feel like that is the difference

956
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: between them. Like, Drake, you do not grow up in

957
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: this black culture. Ja Cole absolutely did, So he understands

958
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: the struggle more so He's not going to be the

959
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: one to exploit black struggle as if that's the only

960
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: thing black people are. But that's what Drake does, you know.

961
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: So that's why he's synced up with Sexy Red, and

962
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: you know every day I like Sexy Red more. I

963
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: don't know why those people exist in our culture. People

964
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: like her exist, so she represents just like black women,

965
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: darker skinned women feel like you don't have representation and

966
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: music and on TV and all that their Sexy Red

967
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: is representing all the hood bitches. Because I'm from Charleston

968
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, like fifty percent of the women

969
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: look like sexy red here.

970
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 6: Wow.

971
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: Really yes, like that is that those people are a

972
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: part of our community. And I hate to even say

973
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: those people.

974
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: Well, I hate I hope y'all aren't grabbing y'all kochie lives.

975
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: And that was wild.

976
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: I ain't like that when she that was too.

977
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: Much, that's too much. But she represents us culture of

978
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: niggas that some of us be looking like at them

979
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: like the same way maybe darker people would feel like

980
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: light skinned people look at them. We do look at

981
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: them like ugh, you know.

982
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: But it ain't got nothing to do with color.

983
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: It's definitely with class behavior sometimes class socialism.

984
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: And she's from Saint Louis. I lived in Saint Louis

985
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: almost five years, and I could tell you it's no

986
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: real racism in Saint Louis. It's definitely classism. Yes, it's

987
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: like the rich niggas against the broke niggas, the white

988
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: white people against you know, and it's a melting pot

989
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: and white people, but there's Russians, there's Cambodians. It's like

990
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: a melting pot of all these different cultures. And it's

991
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: like do you have money or not? And who do

992
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: you know and what do you have access? To it's

993
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: like that in Saint Louis.

994
00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: That sounds like the American way right there, though, Yeah, yeah, yes,

995
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: Do you have anything to offer a young black girl

996
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 3: who's listening to this episode in terms of self esteem?

997
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 6: Hmmm, a young black girl, I will say, let me

998
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 6: speak back to my younger self.

999
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 4: Being like you, you were enough.

1000
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 6: I feel like I wasn't at one point. I know

1001
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 6: now you were enough looking back at my younger self,

1002
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 6: like you did, what they say did not matter to you.

1003
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 6: I had a very low self esteem issue, like very

1004
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 6: very very low. And then I had to build that

1005
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 6: confidence within myself now within a man, now within what

1006
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 6: they say, he say, she say. It was just like

1007
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 6: what do you think about yourself? And I had to

1008
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 6: learn that as an adult, like love you, love every

1009
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 6: ounce of what you see in that mirror every morning

1010
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 6: that you wake up like you are a beautiful black woman.

1011
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 6: God picked you to look this way and be this

1012
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 6: way for a reason, and I know God don't make

1013
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 6: no mistakes.

1014
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 4: So I feel like, love who you are.

1015
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 6: Don't don't let an image a lifestyle did take who

1016
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 6: you are as a person. Love every ounce of you

1017
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 6: and you will see how that would make you feel,

1018
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 6: you know, on the inside, make your heart feel so

1019
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 6: much open and pure. That's why I was like when

1020
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 6: I became an adult, I'm like, you know what, I'm

1021
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 6: tired of listening to what or looking on the internet,

1022
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 6: especially these girls that are so lost in image and lifestyle.

1023
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: That's not me.

1024
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 6: I want to love me first before I could let

1025
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 6: the world love me. I want to love me first

1026
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 6: before you know. I'm like, I can't. I can't keep

1027
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 6: living my life for other people. I want to love

1028
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 6: learn to love me therapy, you know, me reading and

1029
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 6: looking at real you know, spiritual reels. I'm learning to

1030
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 6: love me. And for a long time, I didn't love me.

1031
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 6: I didn't even know who I was. I didn't even

1032
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 6: know what love was. But I think I finally finally

1033
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 6: knew what love was like at the age of thirty

1034
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 6: five or thirty six, I didn't know what it was.

1035
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 6: I just didn't know what it was because I didn't

1036
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 6: come from love. I came from chaos. So now as

1037
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 6: a woman, I love every ounce of me down to

1038
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 6: the big terrier.

1039
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: I love me, even that black even that black big toe.

1040
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: Now, yes it ain't black, not you confirming.

1041
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 1: What black toe.

1042
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 6: No it's actually whir it's a white Yeah, I gotta white.

1043
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen that.

1044
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 6: Answer to that, but no, yeah they're white, they're white. Yeah,

1045
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 6: but I love that too.

1046
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: But you know, I feel like that's an experience, not

1047
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: you know, not only just for you. A lot of

1048
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: women struggle with self love, and you know, oftentimes we

1049
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: know it is in our late thirties and forties when

1050
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: we're starting to feel like, now I'm fully okay with me.

1051
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fully okay with who.

1052
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: I am, and I'm I'm living in it and I'm

1053
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: walking it in. And once you start doing that, it exustes.

1054
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: People can tell, you know, people can see that, yes,

1055
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 3: when you're fully loving yourself. So that is good advice,

1056
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: not just to the Chocolate Sisters, but everybody listening to me.

1057
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of light skinned

1058
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: women who also have self esteem issues, a lot of

1059
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: and you know, and it might come through, you know,

1060
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: as promiscuity, you know, growing up things like that, them

1061
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: just letting anybody have back, and that's just all of us.

1062
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: Right.

1063
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: So this so this past Saturday, y'all was my birthday.

1064
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: Tell me, hey, birthday, and I turned I turned like

1065
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: three d. I turned four d right, and with my

1066
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: little post on social media, I put like this, like

1067
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm hugging Lot Ashley with the Jerry curl, okay, because

1068
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: that was my insecurity growing up. I was chunky with

1069
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: a goddamn Jerry curl. My mom will not let me

1070
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: get that damn curl out my fucking head because you know,

1071
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: she had to work all day. So low maintenance Jerry curle,

1072
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: get that shit done once every couple months. Put your

1073
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: juice in there. I used to be leaving juice on

1074
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: the bus window growing up, and I used to suck

1075
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: my thumb. So I'm like, God, damn mama, like it's

1076
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: either the thumb sucking or the Jerry curl, Like I

1077
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: need one of them to get away. So I fell

1078
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: in love with this little boy in the hood and

1079
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't get the Jerry curl out, so I stopped

1080
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: sucking my thumb. So that's who I'm hugging, little black

1081
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: ass actually with the Jerry curl.

1082
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: Y'all sucking her thumb?

1083
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Why one year this nigga I went to high school

1084
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: with does light skinned nigga. Okay, wish me happy birthday,

1085
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Speaker 1: And I actually posted on my page because the shit

1086
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: was fucking hilarious. This is this is time people be

1087
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: watching you and want to bring you down a little notch. Right,

1088
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: So I think I'm lit in real life, you know.

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00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: So he sends me an inbox message on Instagram. He

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: was like, happy birthday, Ashley. You remember you had that

1091
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: Jerry Curl. That was it. That was a whole fucking message. HBD.

1092
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: Remember when you used to have that Jerry Curl? And

1093
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: I shot it and I posted it on my page

1094
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: because nigga, I'm lit and I've been sitting on people

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: in my adolescents and adulthood, So now what with that

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: Jerry Curl? Of course I remember Nigga, you know, was

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01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: in my head in the summertime, Okay, real she used

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: to be sticking to that guy, Damn Jerry Curl.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I would have been like, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Remember you was in there, got a bunch of kids

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01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: you can't take, came and work and the mother Department

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01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: that out here Nigga that day.

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Speaker 2: So don't do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: So everybody has their little things, man, their little things

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01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: they have to work through to love themselves. And I

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01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: and I do feel like maybe around thirty three about

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01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: thirty three. I started, like I came out of the

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01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: workforce for real, and I started. I never not fucked

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: with me. You're right, but you just start. And maybe

1111
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: it started older because I think got moms like they

1112
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: start like maybe like fifty sixty, they'd be like fuck everybody.

1113
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: It starts early for us nowadays, like nah, fuck you.

1114
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: When I see a bitches start getting sister locks, that's.

1115
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 3: When I know they have uh accepted themself and the

1116
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: most foodess that they came.

1117
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not getting up till seventy.

1118
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: I'm not getting their mothers like at all.

1119
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: And they start treating people different, y'all, bitches with them

1120
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: sister locks, you're looking down at us like me ain't natural,

1121
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: Like like we ain't shit.

1122
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 2: Right because I gotta weaving you better than right.

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01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 4: Five That was weavism.

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother subsector bullshit. Within the culture.

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Speaker 5: We're still the same, bitch.

1126
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: I just look like I'm going to a wedding every day, Okay,

1127
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: y'all ways, y'all gotta go somewhere to get made up.

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Speaker 4: Bitch.

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01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: We going to weddings every day, every day, every day.

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Speaker 2: Yo, They're gonna they're gonna argue that ship right there.

1131
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: But y'all do look like I'm going to watch you

1132
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: throw at least front on top of that ship for

1133
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: the wedding, right, So, Teresa, now we ain't gonna let

1134
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: you slide.

1135
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 4: We have a.

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01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: Segment on the show called dumb Bitch Story. Dumb bitch Stories,

1137
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: so because we've all been a dumb bitch at least

1138
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: once or twice, okay, And it is not like to

1139
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: to ship on anybody, right because you might have gotten

1140
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: shipped on, but it doesn't make you a person. So

1141
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: I know you said you've been in this, this relationship

1142
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: of yours since you were a kid. But yep, so

1143
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: all your so anything that ever happened to you was

1144
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: always from this man.

1145
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna post this, so look at the camera.

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01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 6: Bit.

1147
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: So we need a dumb ben story. Tell us about

1148
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: the time you got played in a relationship, situationship.

1149
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 4: Play.

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01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, picking time around this nigga, though, Okay,

1151
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: if you get in trouble.

1152
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta be careful.

1153
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 6: There are plenty of I got played with moments with

1154
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 6: his ass, he cheered on me like crazy, How How

1155
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 6: could I say it?

1156
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 4: So many?

1157
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: So many you ain't gotta you ain't got a break story,

1158
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: A story from when y'all took a break.

1159
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: I know y'all took a break.

1160
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh god, you know break though that nigga's like, yeah,

1161
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: you let that nigga play on your top.

1162
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 4: Now you can't back over here.

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01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 6: He was running my dude, who's pretty much running two

1164
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 6: relationships at one time. I was the main bitch and

1165
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 6: he had a side check. I don't know if he

1166
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 6: made her feel like she was the main, but I

1167
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 6: was the main when she was the side or whatever whatever.

1168
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 6: But we both knew, and we both did not let

1169
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 6: him go being stupid. I'm twenty nineteen twenty. I mean,

1170
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 6: he's cheating on me, cheating on me, cheating on me.

1171
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 4: He's outside, so he get arrested for whatever whatever whatever.

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01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 6: His mom was like, well, my son got five years,

1173
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 6: go ahead and just move on with your life.

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01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 4: I said, no, I'm not leaving him. I love him.

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01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait on him. I waited one year. She

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01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 4: came by.

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01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 6: She was like, look, go out do your thing. You

1178
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 6: didn't put that those drugs in my son's hand. He

1179
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 6: did that to himself. Go out find you a friend.

1180
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 6: Oh for ree yes, his mom, so she was just like, yeah,

1181
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 6: go ahead, get you a friend, got me a friend.

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01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 4: He was my best friend in Boom. I got pregnant

1183
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 4: by this man while my dude was in jail. So

1184
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 4: I'm finding my ex best friend at the time. Girl,

1185
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 4: I gotta get an abortion. Girl, I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant.

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01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 6: I went to my mo mom pregnant, but I gotta

1187
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 6: get abortion. Marc's gonna leave me. She was, oh, yeah,

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01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 6: and when you do, you're no longer my child. You

1189
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 6: belong to God because they don't believe in abortions in

1190
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 6: my family. So I hid my pregnancy, hit it, hit

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 6: it from marcus family. But marcus mom found out when

1192
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 6: I was five months. Sai, I'm gonna give you a

1193
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 6: month to tell him. I didn't tell him shit. They

1194
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 6: wind up telling him, you have an incoming call from

1195
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 6: an inmate from d D.

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01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 6: You mother fucking close it, bitch, you close it hole

1198
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 6: in all kind does that mean close it? Closet was

1199
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 6: a closet. I'm hide and I'm closet bitch, closet hole slut.

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 4: I'm crying.

1201
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 6: I didn't know what to do, but he was outside

1202
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 6: and she allegedly the side chick got pregnant three four times.

1203
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 6: But I get pregnant for sure, and now I'm all

1204
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 6: kind of closet bitches and holes. But I don't know

1205
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 6: if that's a played moment or if I played him.

1206
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 6: But nigga, you y'all kept bringing up a baby in

1207
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 6: my face. I'm young, I'm hurt. You're telling me this

1208
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 6: girl's pregnant every other month. But boom, nigga got a

1209
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 6: real baby?

1210
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: What's up? What's up this child? He does?

1211
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 6: Granted, you know, my child's father was, like I said,

1212
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 6: was my best friend and I want to rest in peace.

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01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 4: He passed away December twenty twenty one, so I'm sorry.

1214
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that was the whole difference, and that's a

1215
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 6: whole different story.

1216
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, he passed away.

1217
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 6: But my child, well, my boyfriend and my child saw

1218
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 6: him first when he came in this world.

1219
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: Besides the doctors. He saw him first. He didn't even

1220
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 4: see me first.

1221
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 6: So he's been calling him dad before he called his

1222
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 6: real dad dad. That's the only dad. Well that he

1223
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 6: that's the main dad that my child knows. He knows

1224
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 6: his real dad. They had a relationship, but that's the

1225
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 6: dad that he knows. So that's that was my story.

1226
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 6: I mean, you try to play with me with this

1227
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 6: girl you got. She got pregnant three or four times,

1228
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 6: but I got one big successful being on your damn head.

1229
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 6: I got a baby. Where your other kids at? She

1230
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 6: switched the number around, I got a baby.

1231
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I try to be funny though, but what you

1232
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: like when your when your son's dad passed away? Like,

1233
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: did y'all see that video recently where the dude was

1234
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: on the couch because his girlfriend passed.

1235
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeh.

1236
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 2: Came in there like wow, I was. I was thinking that,

1237
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: but I ain't want to ask it because.

1238
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: I already know the story already.

1239
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 6: He did not, Like I was in there crying in

1240
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 6: the garage when I find out my baby daddy died.

1241
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 4: He called for work. I was like, what the fuck

1242
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 4: is you crying for?

1243
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: You crying for the second.

1244
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 4: Like it was my friend? He was.

1245
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 6: Girl, Yeah, he was my friend first. But I think

1246
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 6: that was just the emotion.

1247
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: Like you, that's your baby daddy, Like what Yeah, I

1248
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: was heart.

1249
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 6: He was my best friend before we became my baby daddy.

1250
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 6: And that's why I think a lot of people miss

1251
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 6: like we known each other since we were six years old.

1252
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 4: We grew up together. We were kids, so o k.

1253
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 6: Beyond him being my baby daddy, he was my friend. Yeah,

1254
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 6: he was really really my friend. Yeah, Marcus ain't like

1255
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 6: that ship.

1256
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 5: You want to go with you?

1257
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 4: He told me, do you want to go label saw him?

1258
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 6: I said, nigga, I might want to ride him one

1259
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 6: more time when I'm down there.

1260
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it got deep. It got deep. Yea, it

1261
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 4: got deep.

1262
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 6: But oh god, I'm telling your black bitches be hitting low.

1263
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1264
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 5: Oh you know that's just man.

1265
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the story of wild story. So yeah,

1266
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 6: you said you had a baby. I made a baby

1267
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 6: and successfull, we had one. Don't play with me, Teresa.

1268
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 3: Plug all your things, plug all your businesses. Anything you

1269
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: want people where they want, where you want them to

1270
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 3: follow you, all your information.

1271
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 4: Tell listeners Facebook.

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 6: My name is Teresa with Barry on Facebook, Instagram. My

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01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,120
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01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 6: z at the end. Lady T Underscore Braids, y'all. She

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01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 6: do some of the best braids in Columbia, South Carolina.

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 6: If you need your hair braided, please check her out.

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: She is so good.

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 3: That's who I go to all the time for my braids,

1279
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 3: and she will squeeze me in and give me She'd

1280
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 3: be like, I'll give you celebrity treatment, but it'd be

1281
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: for the celebrity price.

1282
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 2: It don't be cheat, y'all. So you better have.

1283
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 4: Support the brand.

1284
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 6: People, support the brand, Lady t Braids.

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: Thank you girls, Thank you people.

1286
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: He'll appreciate you so much.

1287
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: Greg, thank you for having me.

1288
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: All Right, y'all, So if you enjoyed this episode, y'all,

1289
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: tune in every Thursday on the Black Effect podcast, iHeartRadio

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: app or whatever you get your podcasts. That is your

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: co host a j Holiday kick it Light Skin Tam, y'all.

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: I love y'all, whether you're black or a light or

1293
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: white whatever, remember remember speak now and never hold or.

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01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 4: I don't know but we Talk back.

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