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Speaker 1: Your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and New He scrugs,
Speaker 1: all right, everybody, it is that time Players Lounge on
Speaker 1: a Friday. Danny McCray three three in a row. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's like we've been doing the show for how many years?
Speaker 1: I missed? I missed a few shows listening and Church
Speaker 1: probably and you can't pair New Week were brought because
Speaker 1: mine was consecutive. Church has been all sporadic, but they
Speaker 1: ain't come. Yeah, I don't have to, but it's close enough.
Speaker 1: It's close enough for you to not really be sure.
Speaker 1: No matter where I'm at, if I'm not, if I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm doing the show. Why if I'm a judge, I
Speaker 1: would say I would have to look at the wreck.
Speaker 1: Mister mc craig, could you produce a record because we
Speaker 1: need there have been absences a couple here, there a
Speaker 1: sporadic and then I'll say this, Okay, when Danny was
Speaker 1: at we knew it. It didn't have to sit to
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Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a better show when you're here, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's our way of showing you love. It's a better
Speaker 1: Bury Church. And I like you here, So I'm so
Speaker 1: glad to be back. Man, I'm I'm happy. I'm here
Speaker 1: three weeks in a row, and we're gonna continue this
Speaker 1: trend of me being here for absolutely. I used up
Speaker 1: out my pto, all right, all my pto is gone,
Speaker 1: so I'll be here until until it go over again.
Speaker 1: In two cowboys are practicing right now. So it is
Speaker 1: the final day of the OTAs or is Darren hambrig
Speaker 1: once said, what do voluntary means? Voluntary mini camps? So
Speaker 1: you don't have to be here, but they say, but
Speaker 1: you need to be here. Oh yeah. And I have
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for the guys who come out
Speaker 1: here because fans don't understand they're a lot of guys. Now,
Speaker 1: Dallas is a different place, but a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who don't live in the towns they play. So when
Speaker 1: you come in to do a voluntary m ota, you're
Speaker 1: having to a lot of times come back into the
Speaker 1: place where you are m spend time away from your family,
Speaker 1: and you're not getting paid for. It's what you were
Speaker 1: for free. Warren Moon spoke about that was one reason
Speaker 1: why he decided to retire. He was playing his final
Speaker 1: days in Kansas City and he's you know, I was
Speaker 1: away from my family, so in order me to do
Speaker 1: the voluntaries, and they wanted you there for the voluntaries,
Speaker 1: you had to spend time away from your family. It
Speaker 1: was voluntaries, Like I knew the offense, but but it's
Speaker 1: what you had to do. So I don't think fans
Speaker 1: always understand guys. Not a lot of guys always live
Speaker 1: where they play full time, and when people are asking
Speaker 1: you to come in for these voluntary, voluntary mini camps,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it costs some of these guys money. And
Speaker 1: we're talking about not the big numb not not the
Speaker 1: Dacks of the world, but for guys who are you know, minimums,
Speaker 1: minimum veteran guys or rookies. You know, these are things
Speaker 1: that you these are expenses you can say you're investing
Speaker 1: in yourself. But I think sometimes people lose sight of that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you know, I was one of those guys.
Speaker 1: I was able to well, I came, I lived in Dallas,
Speaker 1: but I played out in Jacksonville, and I hate it.
Speaker 1: I hated going back because I felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: the offseason was just kicking off. Me and my wife
Speaker 1: probably just got back from vacation. We're like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's you know, let's hang out on Dallas, have a
Speaker 1: good time. Well, those weeks ticked by fast. Next thing
Speaker 1: you know, I got to take a flight back to
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and all we're gonna do is sit there and
Speaker 1: go over the defense that I already knew going into
Speaker 1: the next season. So I just didn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: going back and forth like that. Lucky for me, though,
Speaker 1: my kids they weren't old enough to be in school,
Speaker 1: so I didn't have to, you know, yank him out
Speaker 1: of school or put them in school in Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: take them out and put them somewhere in Dallas, so
Speaker 1: they were able to just hop on with me. So
Speaker 1: that was a lucky part, but overall, I just I
Speaker 1: hate it going back and forth. If you were able
Speaker 1: to stick with one organization, you know, for your entirety
Speaker 1: of your career, you're lucky because there's only a few
Speaker 1: of them that are able to do that. Because going
Speaker 1: back and forth that that ain't it. That ain't it,
Speaker 1: And I just didn't have a good time with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the same here. I mean, when you think about Chicago
Speaker 1: and you think about being able to go back and
Speaker 1: enjoy what Chicago has to offer, Chicago practice is in
Speaker 1: Lake Forest, Illinois. They don't practice in the actual city
Speaker 1: of Chicago. Right, So not only are you having to
Speaker 1: leave where I was at Houston at the time and
Speaker 1: fly to Chicago, leave leave my now wife in family,
Speaker 1: I would have to go to Lake Forest, which is
Speaker 1: essentially a retirement community. So it's nothing out there. There's
Speaker 1: a grocery store out there. I think it's a I
Speaker 1: want to even say twin Peaks. I think it's like
Speaker 1: a I don't know what. It's nothing out there for
Speaker 1: you to do. So having to make that flight every
Speaker 1: time every time, it sucked every time. But once you
Speaker 1: get out there, of course it's football. But yeah, then
Speaker 1: it calls you a pretty penny, right, because you got
Speaker 1: to cass those flights and if the if the wife
Speaker 1: want to come see you, or the family want to
Speaker 1: come see you, now you gotta spend the extra dome.
Speaker 1: It's it puts a lot on you. And that's one
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Speaker 1: perspective to fans that they don't normally see a lot
Speaker 1: of people just thinking, you know, Okay, yeah, you're a cowboy,
Speaker 1: you live here. No, that's not the case. For special
Speaker 1: Ken emphasize it up, especially the young guys. You know,
Speaker 1: we always want to think everyone thinks, oh, everybody's making
Speaker 1: all these millions of ducks. You look at the Decks
Speaker 1: and the Zekes and the Tyrant Smiths of the world,
Speaker 1: and you believe that's how everybody is working and everybody's
Speaker 1: making it. In the National Football League, that's just not
Speaker 1: true at all. So final day of OTAs are actually
Speaker 1: going on right now behind as they we're warming up,
Speaker 1: as we're getting ready to start the show. The mandatory
Speaker 1: mini camp is next week. Head coach Mike McCarthy says
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday. So mandatory. So these OTAs,
Speaker 1: these organized team activities, these were voluntary, got to be
Speaker 1: there next week or you face a fun so church,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you. What is it you get out
Speaker 1: of a mandatory mini camp that you're not getting out
Speaker 1: of the OTA? To me, I think the biggest difference
Speaker 1: is basically just time, because in the OTAs, you're on
Speaker 1: a strict schedule, because I think you only get You're
Speaker 1: only there for maybe you know, two hours. You got
Speaker 1: a couple of hours to or a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: to meet and everything like that before practice. But when
Speaker 1: you get to those mandatory mini camps, it is basically
Speaker 1: like a training camp practice. You're up early in the morning,
Speaker 1: you come in, you have your special teams meeting, you
Speaker 1: have breakfast first, maybe get a lift in. Then you
Speaker 1: have your special teams meetings. Then you go and those
Speaker 1: special teams meetings are long, they're about forty five two
Speaker 1: an hour. Then you go and do your team, your defense,
Speaker 1: on your offense. You guys meet as a group, you
Speaker 1: do that, then you break off an individual. It's just
Speaker 1: meetings on top of meetings on top of meetings, and
Speaker 1: then you go out there in practice, and the practices
Speaker 1: are longer as well. I think they're about two and
Speaker 1: a half hours, so they're a little bit longer than
Speaker 1: your regular OTA practice. So you got all that and
Speaker 1: then usually when you're done with OTAs, you might go
Speaker 1: get a lift in or you might just go home.
Speaker 1: After that, it's over OTAs. It's a rap. After that,
Speaker 1: you might get a hot tub in or a sauna
Speaker 1: or something like that to get your body right, but
Speaker 1: it's over. But mandatory mini camp oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you get got you got your lunch break right there.
Speaker 1: Then you're coming back. They through some more meetings. Now
Speaker 1: you'll either watch the tape from practice or you'll go
Speaker 1: break down something else. But you're watching meetings with either
Speaker 1: your position group or as a whole defense or as
Speaker 1: a whole offense. So that time it gets a lot
Speaker 1: longer when you're going through your mandatory mini camps as
Speaker 1: opposed to your OTAs, because you gotta be there and
Speaker 1: a team can find you if you're not there. So
Speaker 1: to meet biggest difference, it's just that time because you're
Speaker 1: there for a much longer time. It's like your regular
Speaker 1: season practice, like your training camp practice. Yeah, in the
Speaker 1: piggyback off what Church said. I think it's I want
Speaker 1: to call it a dress rehearsal for for how training
Speaker 1: camp is going to go. But when you have guys
Speaker 1: that have come from other teams or you have young
Speaker 1: guys coming in, they actually get a visual and an
Speaker 1: example of what training camp is going to be like,
Speaker 1: because essentially this mandatory mini camp is the last time
Speaker 1: that they will see you before you actually go step
Speaker 1: on to the fielding Oxen RD and have to know
Speaker 1: this schedule and know that you're going to be busy
Speaker 1: from seven am to ten thirty pm. So it's really
Speaker 1: them letting you know, like this is what to expect
Speaker 1: the next time we see you, So go ahead and
Speaker 1: get ready. The days are going to be long, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be full, and it's gonna be football twenty four
Speaker 1: hours a day and you and then it practices like
Speaker 1: you're going you get all the period, you get to
Speaker 1: seven on sevens, the teams, the team runs, the team passes,
Speaker 1: the two minute drills, and usually in OTAs, you know,
Speaker 1: one day you'll do a team team drill here, the
Speaker 1: next day you might do a set on seven here,
Speaker 1: and you might do a two minute drill the last
Speaker 1: day of that week for OTAs, but for Mini camp,
Speaker 1: each day you're doing the full experience. Everything that's gonna
Speaker 1: happen in training camp you're gonna see in mini camps. So,
Speaker 1: like like Danny said, you know, the rookies are gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot. They're gonna get introduced to how the
Speaker 1: speed of the game really is when you get to
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Speaker 1: in Frisco. So Dan Mike McCarthy said yesterday to the
Speaker 1: media they've been working on installs and he'll finish the
Speaker 1: installs next week. So explain to our fan base what
Speaker 1: install means for offense, defense and special teams. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: so I'll just speak to it from defense because that's
Speaker 1: where I came from, and special teams is kind of
Speaker 1: the same. So each year is kind of like wash,
Speaker 1: rent and repeat, right, So, because you have new people
Speaker 1: coming in, you have new stuff that you want to
Speaker 1: put in your playbook, or you might have new coaches
Speaker 1: that need to figure out how this stuff is gonna work.
Speaker 1: So each year you come in and you start with
Speaker 1: the very basics of your of your defense and you
Speaker 1: put that in cover one, Cover two, Cover three, and
Speaker 1: you and you hammer at home just to make sure
Speaker 1: that everybody has that, because if you aren't able to
Speaker 1: run those type of defenses, as we saw last year,
Speaker 1: then you aren't able to put in your blitzzes or
Speaker 1: your zero coverages. You aren't able to add on to
Speaker 1: what you what you want to do. So you start
Speaker 1: with the basis one, cover two, Cover three, and every
Speaker 1: day you add on something else. So when you're installing,
Speaker 1: you're going football one on one, next day football one
Speaker 1: h two, next day football one h three. And the
Speaker 1: plan is that once you're done with training camp, you
Speaker 1: have everything installed, so you have so many things that
Speaker 1: you could pick from when when the game actually comes on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like and like you said, you know from
Speaker 1: the first day's day, it's just Cover one. This is
Speaker 1: your simple rules. You got this, dude, man and man.
Speaker 1: Cover three. Let's go over your basic rules for Cover three.
Speaker 1: Strong safety you got curl flat, the other the safeties
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, corners you got the
Speaker 1: deep third. But as the as the days go on
Speaker 1: in camp, like you said, you put a little variable
Speaker 1: on each one. You know, if the offense comes out
Speaker 1: in two by two, we're gonna check to this. If
Speaker 1: they come out in three by one, we want you
Speaker 1: to check to this. And that's basically how you go
Speaker 1: about your installs. Like Danny said, each day it's just
Speaker 1: a little bit different variable to that main defense that
Speaker 1: cover one, Cover two or cover three. Each day after
Speaker 1: that's just a little bit different, a little bit of
Speaker 1: tweak here and there in adjustments to what the offense
Speaker 1: and tell and then by the end of it, you're
Speaker 1: calling the defense and then you're you're able to adjust
Speaker 1: it on the fly, right because because the players are
Speaker 1: all on the same page and they know so they
Speaker 1: can look at the coach and the coach throws up
Speaker 1: a sign and now you know exactly what to do.
Speaker 1: But before that happens, you're not able to do that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're a free agent out of LSU, you're free
Speaker 1: agent out of Toledo. What was different about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: defense for you and what you had to learn going
Speaker 1: through your OTA and your mini camp before you got
Speaker 1: to your first training camp day? Man, for me, it
Speaker 1: was everything was different because I played under Bopolini and
Speaker 1: we ran a lot of Cover four, a lot of zone.
Speaker 1: And then when I got here in Waye Phillips, here
Speaker 1: we were running man to man and we were passing
Speaker 1: off stuff. We were figuring out, figuring out a little
Speaker 1: bit of zone. But it was nothing like we did
Speaker 1: in college. So for me, it was like learning something
Speaker 1: entirely different. And then I was playing dime at that time,
Speaker 1: so now I was trying to figure out how to
Speaker 1: line up in the linebacker position, you know, fiel the
Speaker 1: A gap and feel the D gap and also cover
Speaker 1: the tight end. So it was totally totally new for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and for me it was basically like the same with you. Man,
Speaker 1: it was because in Toledo it was just like, all right,
Speaker 1: you're playing man to man. Here's there's cover three. There's
Speaker 1: no there's no little variant. So there's no fire zone.
Speaker 1: Blitz is where you're blitzing usually if you blitzing your
Speaker 1: man the man behind it. But in the league and NFL,
Speaker 1: there's like fire zones where you're blitzing, but you're playing
Speaker 1: zone behind it. So like it's just like a Matt
Speaker 1: zone concept. And it was just very very hard as
Speaker 1: a safety because you gotta know your job but as well,
Speaker 1: you gotta be the quarterback back there, and you gotta
Speaker 1: show that the coaches that you know, you know what
Speaker 1: you're doing. You know how to check things here and there,
Speaker 1: you know how to play defenses. And as a rookie,
Speaker 1: when you're going out there with other bunch of rookies,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you know, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what hits the fan because you know the offense is
Speaker 1: commotion in here and motioning there, and as a rookie,
Speaker 1: your head spinning because you're trying to figure out, all right,
Speaker 1: this is what I gotta do. I gotta make sure
Speaker 1: my job is hit at one hundred percent in order
Speaker 1: to make this team. But if your other partners ain't
Speaker 1: doing their job, you're all gonna look crazy. So you
Speaker 1: gotta be as a rookie safety especially out to be
Speaker 1: in tune of that playbook and in tune with what
Speaker 1: your jobs as well as everybody else is, or you
Speaker 1: guys are all going to look crazy out there. So
Speaker 1: that was a hard part as a rookie, just knowing
Speaker 1: the playbook and being able to be a quarterback back.
Speaker 1: But at safety too, you gotta remember, like you said,
Speaker 1: that one motion if you know So if you know
Speaker 1: your job pre snap, right, you see the formation they
Speaker 1: come out in three by one, this is my job.
Speaker 1: Now number three motions across and you have to switch
Speaker 1: jobs with the linebacker. So now you don't know the
Speaker 1: linebacker's job, then you have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 1: So just one person moving on the field can change
Speaker 1: everything for a defense. So that's why you see a
Speaker 1: lot of miscommunications sometimes or you see blong coverages because
Speaker 1: one person may be off, they may not understand what
Speaker 1: they're doing or they're not on the same page with
Speaker 1: a simple motion or a check, and then you get
Speaker 1: somebody you know running behind the defense for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And as a safety, you also got to know because
Speaker 1: like you said, they're gonna move you down to dime
Speaker 1: because that's where the league is going now. It's going
Speaker 1: to a pass offense. So they're gonna bring as many
Speaker 1: skilled players or cover players as they can on the field.
Speaker 1: And with dime, you know, that's just a one linebacker
Speaker 1: and you got about five dbs out there, so it's
Speaker 1: a safe the you're not the only got to worry about.
Speaker 1: You know. What you got is your responsibility on the
Speaker 1: deep end. But when you come to down. You're a linebacker,
Speaker 1: so you got the run. The run fits and that
Speaker 1: that's what blew my mind as a safety, wasn't It
Speaker 1: wasn't really like calling plays back there. It was the
Speaker 1: run fits. Like if this guard pulls here, you got
Speaker 1: to be able to check one gap over to make
Speaker 1: sure that guy over, that linebacker on a strong side
Speaker 1: is gonna hammer them. So you got to be next
Speaker 1: in line. The hammer. It's just wild. It's a lot
Speaker 1: because if you miss one hammer or you spill which
Speaker 1: meaning you spilled up, you know, the running back goes
Speaker 1: further outside, or if you hammer making them go inside.
Speaker 1: If you mess that up, you can mess the whole
Speaker 1: integrity of the defense up. And then that and on
Speaker 1: Baronelli and all his you know, all his defensive film
Speaker 1: you can see and like, that's that's what happened to
Speaker 1: the defense. That's who mess it up. So it's a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure for a young cat out there. For sure.
Speaker 1: This is educational, man. That's why I love asking you
Speaker 1: guys a questions about this because these are the things
Speaker 1: that I want the folks who tune in to the
Speaker 1: show to have a little bit better understanding of. Because
Speaker 1: we talk about so much about just the the overall things,
Speaker 1: but there's these little little things doesn't matter. And my
Speaker 1: next question is when you're confused, because obviously say, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know this. Who do you go to? Do
Speaker 1: you go to your position coach? If you're a linebacker,
Speaker 1: do you tapp into somebody like Kean O'Neil, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're safety you go and you're tapp into somebody
Speaker 1: like Kazy who knows? Where do you go? If you're
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Jail Coxon, where do you go? That's tough
Speaker 1: now for Michael Parsons because are we talking about like
Speaker 1: right after the play are we talking about like man
Speaker 1: throughout the practice? You know, practice is done, you know
Speaker 1: you've soaked it all in, and then that other part
Speaker 1: of the guy like Parsons. You you know, I would
Speaker 1: say you'd ask Neil, But these are people's jobs you're
Speaker 1: trying to take. Well, yeah, if it's Parsons, you know,
Speaker 1: usually you go ask Sean Lee um. So, so they
Speaker 1: have to figure out who that person is, if it's
Speaker 1: going to be l v or Jaylen Smith. But I
Speaker 1: would start with asking one of the veterans to show
Speaker 1: me how they study take man, how they remember. And
Speaker 1: then if that doesn't work, then you got to go
Speaker 1: to your position coach because he has to know that
Speaker 1: you're not picking it up as fast as you can,
Speaker 1: so he's not putting you in situations that he thinks
Speaker 1: you that you should be successful in and you're not
Speaker 1: because he has no idea you you're not picking up
Speaker 1: on what he's trying to teach. So you gotta let
Speaker 1: everybody know so they can all help you. If you
Speaker 1: don't like say you you know, that's your job on
Speaker 1: the line. So and that's the that's the biggest thing
Speaker 1: that the the young rookies makes a mistake is they
Speaker 1: go out there thinking if if, if, if I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. You know, in the coaches they
Speaker 1: see they don't know what I'm doing. Man, it's a struggle.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a whole bust. But you don't
Speaker 1: want to go and tell your coach because then you think, oh, man,
Speaker 1: he's gonna think I'm not you know, not studying, I'm
Speaker 1: not in my playbook like that. And then like you said,
Speaker 1: the veterans out here, I mean they're fighting for their
Speaker 1: jobs as well. So I mean you're gonna tell them
Speaker 1: how to go, But are you gonna give them all
Speaker 1: the ins and out to the situation. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, as me as a veteran, I wouldn't. But
Speaker 1: that's just me. That's crazy. Church has some great veterans
Speaker 1: that he was able to learn from that didn't take it.
Speaker 1: They were like, hey man, listen, if you want to
Speaker 1: know how to do it, then we'll teach you how
Speaker 1: to do it. And if you mess it up and
Speaker 1: we think that the play call is wrong, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have your back forward. But see, I know why they
Speaker 1: did that because they didn't think I wasn't like you.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still gonna get drill sense the ball
Speaker 1: he's created because he helped me out more than more
Speaker 1: than he ever would know. And I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: he had the same thing with Church, but as far
Speaker 1: as he'll being a leader in that dB locker room,
Speaker 1: he did as much as he could to make sure
Speaker 1: that we were team building that was and he had
Speaker 1: our backs when when he thought something was wrong, he
Speaker 1: would step up and lets the coaches know, hey man,
Speaker 1: that's not right. You're not putting them in a reposition
Speaker 1: to be successful. Great Tar Hills to man, that's a
Speaker 1: great talk. Okay, he was afterely a good leader. He
Speaker 1: lets let's hit a break here. Um, all right when
Speaker 1: we come back, what offensive and defensive players need to
Speaker 1: step up for the Cowboys? And what are some of
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Speaker 1: All right, they are on the practice field right now
Speaker 1: here at the Star in Frisco. And it's the final
Speaker 1: voluntary mandatory. You understand all day long. It says voluntary,
Speaker 1: But you getting side eyes if you are not there,
Speaker 1: side eyes if you if you ain't hide enough on
Speaker 1: the roster, you're not getting no out me at home.
Speaker 1: Ain't nil that nail that out, don't even come back last.
Speaker 1: We got somebody else for you, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: not comparing myself self at all to a pro player,
Speaker 1: but even when I was in high school, it felt
Speaker 1: like the off season. Non man, it felt mandatory because
Speaker 1: you have people are looking at you. They're your teammate.
Speaker 1: Where are you at? And I remember the coaches asking, Hey,
Speaker 1: where a so so at? So you all need to
Speaker 1: call him? Man, I'm working my summer job here. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get paid. What you mean summer job? Right? Right? Then? Coaches,
Speaker 1: like high school, you know, nobody was recruiting me. I
Speaker 1: quickly found out when I went to Appalachian State. I
Speaker 1: was there on a debate camp. So I started to
Speaker 1: swinging by the football office. Hey, it's called somebody missed
Speaker 1: a letter. But anyway, how my mom should be tying
Speaker 1: up the line. I know y'all probably call it was
Speaker 1: busy and I think it was Stan Hickson. I want
Speaker 1: to say it was brother Stan Hickson. He says, you know,
Speaker 1: since you play lineman linebacker. Okay, how tall are you? Folks?
Speaker 1: Said dad? Dad? About five eight moms five foot He
Speaker 1: looked at me, saying, so you're about done growing, which
Speaker 1: was his kind way of saying thank you. Uh no, debate,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what. I showed up and walked
Speaker 1: myself right on back down and said, this is the
Speaker 1: what they said in the Mandalorian. This is the way.
Speaker 1: This is the way. Yes, yes, exactly, speech to debate.
Speaker 1: That was the way. And the other thing I noticed
Speaker 1: applite to state was that the only black folks that
Speaker 1: I saw that summer were involved in athletics. Well, well,
Speaker 1: the school in the mountains and Dexter Cokeley ended up
Speaker 1: going to. But actually pretty good though pretty good man,
Speaker 1: Look look many they are a powerhouse. And this was
Speaker 1: years before that, but yeah, it was. It was very
Speaker 1: It was very That was what I told myself to
Speaker 1: you know, where are you at. I'm doing what I
Speaker 1: need to do. I'll see you all that and thetory
Speaker 1: I'm not going on because I'm not trying to lie
Speaker 1: to us in high school about scholars. Ain't nobody recruit me,
Speaker 1: no scholar, nobody. I was the center. Antybody recruit me
Speaker 1: to play center nowhere. I'm too slow to be a
Speaker 1: linebacker the next level. But I'm trying to sit up here,
Speaker 1: Pete as these hot these lines and got about it.
Speaker 1: And you know what this thing is? Now? Is they
Speaker 1: telling these They telling bigger lines than ain't of these kids? Like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Stop to stop this? Kids? Ain't
Speaker 1: going on? I get you the league, I say, guys,
Speaker 1: to the league, there's this one. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: name this place. So there's a little right in my
Speaker 1: neighborhood that somebody opened up on these little gyms. I'll
Speaker 1: tell y'all them O. The name of it is good, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a catching name. And I see all these kids
Speaker 1: in here working out these you know, these junior high kids,
Speaker 1: and I'm just laughing them. Man, all they've done is
Speaker 1: taking daddy's disposable income and him thinking that junior and
Speaker 1: his daughter gonna be d one happening. He wasting your cash.
Speaker 1: But it's a rocket now. Man. If people are making
Speaker 1: their money off of should he should league. If you're free,
Speaker 1: you come, Holliday up. We show you the path. All right,
Speaker 1: All right, position battles going into training camp. I'll start
Speaker 1: with you, start with me. I'll start with what do
Speaker 1: you look? I got my eye on one battle, one
Speaker 1: battle I think that's gonna take control of the whole
Speaker 1: of all the other battles that look, this is the
Speaker 1: one that's gonna be it, and that's that tight end position.
Speaker 1: You got Blake Jarwin coming back from an ACL He's
Speaker 1: under contract, We paid him a bunch of money. He
Speaker 1: got hurt, unfortunately got hurt, but he's coming back. He's
Speaker 1: supposed to be this mismatched nightmare. He's supposed to be
Speaker 1: the guy. We haven't had a guy threatened to scenes
Speaker 1: like this guy's supposed to be able to and who
Speaker 1: knows how long, maybe since Jay Novcheck because Witten wasn't
Speaker 1: threatening those scenes. But this is a guy right here
Speaker 1: who's DA's already said is the most athletic guy on
Speaker 1: the team. He's supposed to be a mismatched nightmare. Agants, linebackers, corners, safeties,
Speaker 1: whoever you want to throw out there on him. He
Speaker 1: can beat him on one on ones and I think
Speaker 1: he can add a different dimension to this offense. But
Speaker 1: you also got Dalton Shoaltz over there, who, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: he had kind of a breakout year last year for
Speaker 1: for himself. You know, he came in there, nobody expected
Speaker 1: pretty much anything from him. You know, oh man, we
Speaker 1: lost dal Or Blake Jarwin. What are we're gonna do? Now?
Speaker 1: You didn't, I didn't. You're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect anything from Dalton Shots, but he came
Speaker 1: through and he proved me wrong. He went out there,
Speaker 1: he was able to win his one on ones versus
Speaker 1: linebackers safeties, had a couple of touchdowns, and he was
Speaker 1: good after the catch, a lot better than I thought
Speaker 1: he would be after the catch. He had a little
Speaker 1: bit of speed there. So meet for me, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be an interesting decision there because I don't see with
Speaker 1: all these receivers. I see them being in an eleven
Speaker 1: personnel a lot, and that means they're just gonna be
Speaker 1: one tight end on the field. It's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: how they're gonna div you up the plays here. But
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see Dalton Shots just giving his
Speaker 1: job the jar one. So to me, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: one of the biggest battles coming up here in this camp. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we all, I think we can all agree that the
Speaker 1: linebacker position is uh, it's gonna be one. So I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna mention, but I think the actual the cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: I think the nickel in the in the right corner spot.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a battle to watch because
Speaker 1: we haven't really seen Kelvin Joseph. But I think the
Speaker 1: man can play, all right. I think he can play.
Speaker 1: We'll be able to see it and the coaches are
Speaker 1: going to want to see if he's able to play.
Speaker 1: So you got Anthony Brown and you got Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: So you got three guys for two spots. So we
Speaker 1: got to see which one of those rods to the
Speaker 1: top and they're able to take over that right cornerback position.
Speaker 1: And who's gonna be be the slot one of those
Speaker 1: guys that are going to be missing out. I got
Speaker 1: a question, and I know y'all just a little bit
Speaker 1: off subject. Y'all saw the catch yesterday from Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure y'all saw the cat. That's my problem
Speaker 1: with the nickel body types that we have with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: And that was Anthony Brown on it and Ceede Lamb's
Speaker 1: not maga, he's not no, we're near DK metcal nothing
Speaker 1: and he went up to rise the bove them got
Speaker 1: the ball easily and kind of shielded them all. That's
Speaker 1: my problem with the with the body types. We have
Speaker 1: that corner here outside of Diggs, we don't have any height,
Speaker 1: we don't have any size. We might be able to
Speaker 1: defend all that quick stuff underneath, but when it goes deep,
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about it. But you know, we'll get back
Speaker 1: to the training camp. That's that's that's gonna be a battle.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a battle to see if if if
Speaker 1: Quinn has those guys who can make those plays. They
Speaker 1: obviously believe in them, some some types of they see something.
Speaker 1: So you know, with his experience and having those corners
Speaker 1: and being able to bring guys in that that could
Speaker 1: make those plays, you know, I'm getting a benefit of
Speaker 1: the doult because you know, I'm all in on Quinn.
Speaker 1: So I think I think that I think I think
Speaker 1: that that that cornerback position because I think Diggs has
Speaker 1: that his position locked up. But I think those other
Speaker 1: three guys, that's gonna be a battle to pay attention to.
Speaker 1: When you bring that up. The first thing kims in
Speaker 1: my head, like the schedule, Boom, Tampa Bay, Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: Big Godwin, big receivers, and I'm just sitting there think
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you know, I'm not gonna say these
Speaker 1: guys can't do it, because you know, I've seen you know,
Speaker 1: smaller corners still go out there and be dogs out
Speaker 1: there on the outside. But it's I mean, we got
Speaker 1: a lot of corners with that same body type. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult, all right. For me, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: right to what I thought. The essence of the whole
Speaker 1: twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys problem was last year run game. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they were thirty first against the run. They were basically
Speaker 1: last until that last month of the season where they
Speaker 1: got to play some dogs and ended up getting bumped
Speaker 1: up to thirty one. So for me, I got to
Speaker 1: look at these defensive tackles. Who is going to stop
Speaker 1: the run? What's one way you can help your defensive
Speaker 1: backs put some pressure? This is true, you know this.
Speaker 1: Warren Sap used to say it, and I just keep
Speaker 1: saying it again and again. The back don't work without
Speaker 1: the front. If you want to help you defensive backs,
Speaker 1: figure out how to get better upfront. So you know,
Speaker 1: Quentin Bohannon, a big boy from Kittalking, you know the
Speaker 1: three forty three fifty, big boy right there up in
Speaker 1: the middle. So you got him, Nevin Galliboor, Justin Hamilton,
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, kid from Ucla, OSA. You know these are
Speaker 1: the guys I'm going to be looking at to say,
Speaker 1: what can you do to help stop the run? Once again?
Speaker 1: Started looking on here these teams, you get ready to
Speaker 1: play here, there's some folks that are gonna come out
Speaker 1: here and try and run the football. When you see
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, okay four and that out there. Um no,
Speaker 1: don't forget about the actual starter for Tampa Bay. He's
Speaker 1: a dog, a local local kid, Ronald Joe. So you've
Speaker 1: got him. Um, you got to charge. You got Philadelphia
Speaker 1: with the uh the miles with name Sanders, you got
Speaker 1: said you got run cmc um, you got say quon twice.
Speaker 1: Minnesota's got Dalvin Cook, Baba Gibson did to us. You
Speaker 1: know Washington's running back right, So so I mean you
Speaker 1: look on the schedule here, man, there's there's some running
Speaker 1: backs coming your way. So for me, this run defense,
Speaker 1: you've got to stop it. And too many times what
Speaker 1: we saw this defense was on the field so long.
Speaker 1: This is true, and they were just sworn down. And
Speaker 1: I know it's popular to try to talk about. You know,
Speaker 1: it was the twenty four thirty four touchdown passes that
Speaker 1: gave up last year from the defensive backfield stampoot. But
Speaker 1: if you're not putting any pressure and if it's just
Speaker 1: easy to run, then it's going to be tough for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And then you take these long drives defenses
Speaker 1: out there. So now you're coming back, you're asking Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott in the offense not only to score, but to
Speaker 1: score quickly. So for me, the defensive tackles are going
Speaker 1: to be where I'm looking at it. Who's going to
Speaker 1: step up and try to stop the run? Tristan Hill's
Speaker 1: coming off at acl you guys know, um, these are
Speaker 1: we assume they're going to be right back. And this
Speaker 1: is nothing against to look at the training staff, but
Speaker 1: everybody's body is just different. Everybody's body responds differently. And
Speaker 1: did you be in a car wreck upfront like that? Um,
Speaker 1: let's see where Tristan Hill is. I just don't think
Speaker 1: everybody should just assume he's gonna come back and be
Speaker 1: where he was last year. Where I'm just saying, when
Speaker 1: you when you say that, are we what are we
Speaker 1: expecting him to get to like he was a starter.
Speaker 1: He was a starter last year. So speaking of what
Speaker 1: the defensive linement was word last year was Yeah. I'm
Speaker 1: saying so because I might ask search, is Neville Gallimore
Speaker 1: going to be a starter? Yes, once we get to
Speaker 1: week one, he'll be. He'll be a starter. He needs
Speaker 1: to take that that that next jump, which I think
Speaker 1: he can. I think he was on the way last
Speaker 1: year as a season progressed. He seemed to get better
Speaker 1: and better um and he was able to kind of
Speaker 1: keep those linemen off of our linebackers for the most
Speaker 1: part when they're we're talking about on his side and
Speaker 1: he's able to you know, create a kind of a
Speaker 1: push right there. We know he's good against the run.
Speaker 1: The thing I think he just needs to tweak a
Speaker 1: little bit is able to get more pass rush to
Speaker 1: his to his arsenal. If he's able to do that,
Speaker 1: I think he can be a you know, an upgrade
Speaker 1: at the defensive tackle. So stay right there, because there
Speaker 1: was another thing we spoke about is is your what
Speaker 1: offense have been Defensive players must step up. And for me,
Speaker 1: when I look at defensively, Nevin Gallimore is that guy
Speaker 1: I'm already talking about they've got to get better up front,
Speaker 1: and Gallimore's the guy that I'm going to look to, um,
Speaker 1: you know, the last year's third round pick, to say
Speaker 1: this is a player that needs to take another step
Speaker 1: up and can help this defense. If he can do that,
Speaker 1: then you have Layton band Esh, Jalen Smith, Micah Parsons,
Speaker 1: Jabrill Cox being able to operate differently any last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, as much as people have gotten all the linebackers,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, man, you had guards sinners running up
Speaker 1: on these dudlers pounds quick quick. One of the things
Speaker 1: about Ray lewis when you and you wanted to beat
Speaker 1: the Ravens, if you could get second level guys on him,
Speaker 1: then you could take him out. Because Ray's not He
Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest guy for a linebacker. So if you
Speaker 1: could get your second level, getting him second level with
Speaker 1: your offensive line mean, then you were able to really
Speaker 1: kind of affect what they were trying to do. That's
Speaker 1: why they had Tony, Sarah Goosa and Sam Adams, those
Speaker 1: big guys up there to let Ray operate. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: didn't have that. So as as people beating up the
Speaker 1: linebackers last year for poor play. Also give them the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt for the standpoint and understand they
Speaker 1: ain't get any help anyway. The fans game some some
Speaker 1: different and what do we see because this like the
Speaker 1: Cleveland game and Washington were just gonna beat you. And
Speaker 1: people will set career high every week. You know, guy
Speaker 1: having a career day, like what start them on your
Speaker 1: fantasy team, fantasy you know he started, had to running
Speaker 1: back start them and if you had the top receiver,
Speaker 1: start them. Terrible Cowboys. Just we pencil themen a line.
Speaker 1: It was rough, but that's what that D line they
Speaker 1: gotta do this year. I think they gotta. They gotta
Speaker 1: take advantage of their one on one opportunities. I mean
Speaker 1: last year there was too many times where they were
Speaker 1: just stalemated on a one on one block and the
Speaker 1: quarterback had all day back there to pick apart our defense.
Speaker 1: Um not saying our secondary is the greatest. You know,
Speaker 1: we've seen that, But we gotta give him some type
Speaker 1: of chance. So a little bit of help and you
Speaker 1: got d law. He's getting double team, he's gonna get chips,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get hit out of linebacker. The running back
Speaker 1: is going to be focused on him coming through. So
Speaker 1: these other guys, Gallimore, Tristan Hill, whoever steps up um
Speaker 1: and outside of of of Gallim were over there in
Speaker 1: the other defensive tackle spot and Randy Gregory, they gotta
Speaker 1: take advantage of their one on ones just to give
Speaker 1: a little bit of help to that secondary. So Galliman
Speaker 1: was a white defensive player, needs to step up. What
Speaker 1: about you. It's gonna sound crazy, but I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith. I think Jaylen Smith, with the number change
Speaker 1: and all the hype around him and all the negativity
Speaker 1: around him, I think if he steps up to play
Speaker 1: how he did two years ago when him and LV
Speaker 1: were looking at looked at as being one of the
Speaker 1: one of the top linebacking corps in the league. If
Speaker 1: he steps up to play that way and they're able
Speaker 1: to use him, you know, to rush off the edge
Speaker 1: ury once in a while, you know, run sideline of
Speaker 1: sideline and make those type of tackles, I think they'll
Speaker 1: be Okay. He needs to step up because he changed
Speaker 1: his number, a lot of pressure on he put some
Speaker 1: pressure on this. Yeah, I want I want the man
Speaker 1: to do good, So I'm going to give him that.
Speaker 1: He needs to step up and play like the guy
Speaker 1: that he says he is. Watch the film. That's true.
Speaker 1: That's true. And for me, defensively, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: you this on this New year. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go on the defensive line as well, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go Randy Gregory on this one because I think this
Speaker 1: guy can have a breakout year and I think he
Speaker 1: can be one of those premier defensive players, especially if
Speaker 1: he's opposite Tank Lawrence. If he's able to get those
Speaker 1: one on ones and start beating these one on ones
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, I think this guy can be
Speaker 1: a havoc throughout the league. I mean we saw throughout
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks at the season. I mean
Speaker 1: even he had, you know, three forced fumbles in one game.
Speaker 1: The guy was causing havoc in the run and the past.
Speaker 1: He has that type of ability to bend and get
Speaker 1: a round offensive tackles that's unique. And he has speed
Speaker 1: as well to get off the edge. So I just
Speaker 1: think this guy is a freak athletically, and I think
Speaker 1: he can he can benefit off of playing out opposite
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence and he can he can if he
Speaker 1: can step up he can be one of these guys.
Speaker 1: I know what knew he wanted. He wanted to hear
Speaker 1: what he wanted to hear. Tank Lawrence. No, but no,
Speaker 1: that wasn't that what that was? You know, It's not
Speaker 1: like he was not healthy last year. We all know
Speaker 1: the year he had the year before. So I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say, the man's gonna be healthy. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: leave him off my list as people gave you. So
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, his play is it's
Speaker 1: been adequate, but his place, the play at the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle spot has been inadequate. I mean, this was below average.
Speaker 1: This was bad. And if Tank, if Tank has a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, it won't matter because they just go run
Speaker 1: up the middle. And so so that's why he's not
Speaker 1: on my list. What about offense? Okay, offensive player who
Speaker 1: must go ahead and step up for Tyren Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm not only does he need to be healthy,
Speaker 1: he needs to turn back the hands of time at
Speaker 1: least three to four years to where people feared him.
Speaker 1: Where that punch when you came off his side was like,
Speaker 1: if he get his hand on me, he's done. You know,
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of mental errors coming out of
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith, a lot of holding calls, you know, some
Speaker 1: things that you don't usually see from him. So I
Speaker 1: think if if he's able to tidy some of that
Speaker 1: stuff up and he's able to stay healthy, I think
Speaker 1: we got a real, real, real shot of our offensive line.
Speaker 1: But if not, you know, you know what I think. Uh, look,
Speaker 1: you know it's tiring. Number one and then one A
Speaker 1: is our guy Lell Collins. Yeah, these offensive linemen have
Speaker 1: to be back. Here's what Tyred Smith ended up saying, UM, cool,
Speaker 1: honestly feeling great. Finally got the next fixed, and I
Speaker 1: think that kind of connected to everything with the back.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I finally got it fixed after all these years.
Speaker 1: So Tyrant has been played with injuries since twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: but last year, um, you know that that next surgery
Speaker 1: cost him fourteen football games. So we're all in agreement
Speaker 1: right there. Are our cowboy player on offense that must
Speaker 1: step up, is Tyrant. That's the type of statement right
Speaker 1: there to get you in trouble though, because all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you now you finally got it fixed, all
Speaker 1: right now, So what you know, I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: I hope the man stay healthy. But you know, I'm no,
Speaker 1: I'm no dummy when it comes to uh people start
Speaker 1: type of injuries. Age and the position that you're playing
Speaker 1: is really really tough to avoid having those same type
Speaker 1: of injuries again. Okay, um, oh, gott take a break.
Speaker 1: I'll take a break. I want to get into Well,
Speaker 1: the NBA's a different sport. I want to compare just
Speaker 1: a leadership standpoint from the NBA. Can you compare this
Speaker 1: to the National Football League? You guys plays, you want
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on that. Also, we raise the
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Speaker 1: Let me side note though, they're trying to redo the
Speaker 1: whole downtown Jacksonville, and they got a whole new thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not even yeah, man, they gonna win you back, nah'
Speaker 1: no matter when they can put a billion dollars into
Speaker 1: that nine. You'll never see anything on my flight Tenera
Speaker 1: that says Jacksonville, back off for helping your boy out
Speaker 1: though you know that. So we were preparing for the
Speaker 1: show and on the show notes, the topic came up
Speaker 1: of trading linebacker Layton vandersh Church. I will start with
Speaker 1: you on this top. If you're asking me right now,
Speaker 1: like specifically, you know, this moment in time, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, but only because I don't know
Speaker 1: what I have in the youngsters. If Parsons goes out
Speaker 1: there in training camp once we get these pads on preseason,
Speaker 1: he's out there popping, and he has a kind of
Speaker 1: has a controller defense as far as he knows what
Speaker 1: his responsibility is. He can make checks and that and
Speaker 1: all that other stuff, and in cots he is able
Speaker 1: to come in here and do what he does. He's
Speaker 1: able to show up in the run game, not only
Speaker 1: against the coverage, but in the run game as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have no problem with it. You know, I
Speaker 1: would say, hey, you know why, you know, we appreciate
Speaker 1: your service. We're gonna let you go this other place,
Speaker 1: you know, get some picks for him something, because that's
Speaker 1: the only thing to me, that's that's holding it back,
Speaker 1: is they don't know what they have in Parsons and
Speaker 1: in Cox and all the young linebackers. Because if you
Speaker 1: go that route, one is a cheaper route because you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to if you if you bring Vandura's back
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to pay him a new contract whatever,
Speaker 1: it's a cheaper route, and it's a healthier route. I mean,
Speaker 1: when we've seen Parsons he rarely missed at Penn State.
Speaker 1: Lve nothing against him but that that rookie year, he
Speaker 1: was a beast. When he's healthy, he is a beast.
Speaker 1: I will give him that. But when's the last time
Speaker 1: he was healthy. I mean he has you know, neck
Speaker 1: collarbone issuees here and there. He's just not been that
Speaker 1: same lineback he was two years ago. So for me
Speaker 1: as of right now, I wouldn't. But going forward, if
Speaker 1: Cox and if Parsons are the linebackers I think they
Speaker 1: can be, I would have no problem with it, no
Speaker 1: problem at all. So this is this is last year
Speaker 1: on his deal, right they didn't pick up his fifth
Speaker 1: year at trade trade him, get something for him. If
Speaker 1: somebody is going to give you something for LV right now,
Speaker 1: I would trade him get something from one. Like you said,
Speaker 1: we are not sure if this dude is going to
Speaker 1: be healthy or not, so essentially you're losing for nothing
Speaker 1: and he might not even play this year exactly. M
Speaker 1: And then you do got some young guys who you
Speaker 1: want to get get some pictures of. So if you're
Speaker 1: really going to buy into Jaylen Smith, get LV out
Speaker 1: of here, let it be Parsons and let it be
Speaker 1: Jaaln Smith, who are gonna be your starters in the
Speaker 1: Nickel package. And then, uh, I'm going to assume that
Speaker 1: Cox can play this because he want so. Give him,
Speaker 1: give them, give him, give him a shot, you know,
Speaker 1: to get out there, but unmuddy the linebacker room a
Speaker 1: little bit and get something for LV, because after this
Speaker 1: year it's nothing. You just him something. If you have
Speaker 1: somebody willing to give up something that's worked it for Helvy,
Speaker 1: absolutely trade him out of And I would trade him
Speaker 1: before like you know, like if we see in training
Speaker 1: camp that they're doing work, these young cats, I would
Speaker 1: trade him before it because if he goes out there
Speaker 1: and he starts bawling out, you know what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do now? This week five and boy tackles or something.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, we were gonna do now so health
Speaker 1: health as well. They say health as wealth as well, Bro.
Speaker 1: And when you ain't got that and you can, you
Speaker 1: can get something forward and sending that hurt person on
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Let me quote lead Corso here we go.
Speaker 1: Not so fast, not so fast. I understand the thought
Speaker 1: process about the rookies and what you hope they could be.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to something that Barry pointed out
Speaker 1: to me that his staying in my mind. And this
Speaker 1: was about the schedule after the October twenty fourth bye week,
Speaker 1: eleven straight football game. It's a lot of weeks. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, Bro Cox, he Playleton games last year. Nobody
Speaker 1: calls football play Lemon games last year. Michael Parsons didn't
Speaker 1: play last year. So I'm looking and sit to and
Speaker 1: we're talking about now a seventeen game regular season. Here,
Speaker 1: give me some depth. If this Cowboy team is going
Speaker 1: to be what many people think they are, that this
Speaker 1: is a team that could win the East. I would
Speaker 1: want to have a veteran in Layton Vanderesh who is
Speaker 1: playing for his football career here, so he will actually
Speaker 1: be playing in your ideal site. What if he's going
Speaker 1: to be out playing after playing, what do you do
Speaker 1: with you like he's on the bench. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: this is a very good question. If it gets the
Speaker 1: point that a Micah Parsons is out playing him and Coxon.
Speaker 1: You're putting these guys out on the football field with
Speaker 1: the way and you're talking about the seventeen game regular season,
Speaker 1: and he's still a decent serviceable player. Trade that line
Speaker 1: I got to imagine they're going to be some people
Speaker 1: out there who would need a linebacker. Or if you
Speaker 1: keep him and he ends up signing a contract and
Speaker 1: you get a comp pick for him, I'll take compick.
Speaker 1: But I if i'm if I'm Dan Quinn and Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: I want a veteran football player who is playing for
Speaker 1: his life and Jalen Smith is in the same position.
Speaker 1: They are playing for their football lives. Here, you guys
Speaker 1: can tell can speak to this more so than me.
Speaker 1: Aren't guys a little bit better when they're playing for
Speaker 1: that money? Yeah, but it's not his skill that worries though.
Speaker 1: Of course, Hell the hell he can. He can play
Speaker 1: as hard as he wants. Okay, but if he's hurt,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do. How bad he wants to contract
Speaker 1: A guy who got so salty every time he asked
Speaker 1: about his health was DeMarco Murray and even his last year.
Speaker 1: Remember he hurt his hand. Yeah, kept on balling in
Speaker 1: a final year. You're right, he hurt his neck. He
Speaker 1: wasn't out trying to have The injuries that laden has
Speaker 1: head as a as a linebacker are much different what
Speaker 1: DeMarco was facing when he was in his I'm not
Speaker 1: going to disagree with you, but I'm merely coming back
Speaker 1: to the fact that your livelihood, your career is on
Speaker 1: the line here. You are now playing for thirty one
Speaker 1: other NFL teams. So I think whether you hurt, whether
Speaker 1: you go, it's gonna be. You know you're gonna go
Speaker 1: out here and lay it down on the line. You
Speaker 1: guys know because you've seen it. But but we listen.
Speaker 1: But we've never had a doubt that LV was gonna
Speaker 1: lay it out on the line when he wasn't playing
Speaker 1: for us, for for his life on the line. Last year,
Speaker 1: we just had a chance to play in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The man came back from injuries, said he should sit
Speaker 1: out for the rest of the season. The man came
Speaker 1: back out there after having it was it was another
Speaker 1: neck injury. I'm not trade the man the next Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: is interested in them. You gotta risk. I think I
Speaker 1: read that somewhere in Pittsburgh. Maybe get out of here.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you I don't get so he's not
Speaker 1: even play like when I hear that. And this is
Speaker 1: something man, I told you other day. These whole rulers
Speaker 1: and somebody's I mean somebody to do well what they're
Speaker 1: interested and giving up a one for Juleo Jones. If
Speaker 1: somebody's interested, you better believe the GM would have made
Speaker 1: them take it sold. Somebody will take La and take
Speaker 1: him at what Hey, here's a six A six. I
Speaker 1: don't know about it. Sall tell you, Okay, man got
Speaker 1: a bad nick and a bad collabone now like Mike
Speaker 1: linebacker and you play linebacker here. So if I'm dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: you know why I want to keep him because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get myself another head coaching job. Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: and Steven you why I'm trying to keep him. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get to the playoffs. I'm trying to have
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have as many good football players in
Speaker 1: a seventeen game season as possible. So I'm going to
Speaker 1: roll with late Van Drash. Let me tell you something
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that dan Quinn and his
Speaker 1: career has played with I mean some coach, some guys
Speaker 1: who are still out there, some linebackers who still had
Speaker 1: the ability to come in and play and know his
Speaker 1: system if LV is not here. So I don't think
Speaker 1: dan Quinn is lacking for people that he has on
Speaker 1: his waiting list. Say hey, man, hey, we need you
Speaker 1: to come just provide us with some depth if these
Speaker 1: young guys aren't able to make it past week twelve
Speaker 1: and we just need somebody to fill in. Because that's
Speaker 1: not what you're saying about ILV. He possibly be sitting
Speaker 1: on the sideline being one of them guys who are
Speaker 1: you're just waiting waiting for with it was it street clothes,
Speaker 1: Strell street clothes? So would you would you give them
Speaker 1: up now? Not knowing what the young boys can do?
Speaker 1: The pads on, Yeah, I'm on Napat. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't think i'll train him right now. I think both
Speaker 1: of y'all know how I feel about these injuries. Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel the same way about tires and his neck
Speaker 1: and his back as I do about l V the
Speaker 1: same way we felt last year, and we was like, man,
Speaker 1: this dude got a bad nick. That's something that you
Speaker 1: just barely. You don't really come back from it, and
Speaker 1: if you do, you're not gonna be the same. But
Speaker 1: we notice. But you know, we want depth. So let's
Speaker 1: keep LV on there. And the next time you be
Speaker 1: in the training room talking about my other colophone, bro,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna look y'all in y'all eyes and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we could have had a six I'm
Speaker 1: going to be I'm going to be very interested see
Speaker 1: how these rookies in a seventeen game schedule make the
Speaker 1: adaptation to the National Football League because they didn't play
Speaker 1: a full season last year, and in the case of
Speaker 1: some players who sat out or didn't play, like a
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, you had Joseph who decided from Kentucky decided
Speaker 1: to set out his final two games. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be taxing. Do we have the Hall of Fame game
Speaker 1: this year? Yes? All right, so I ain't gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be brutal for
Speaker 1: the for the rookie because remember we came in all
Speaker 1: rookie year. We had the Hall of Fame Game, which
Speaker 1: was that means you have five preseason games, and as
Speaker 1: a rookie, you're gonna play at all of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: you might not play as much in that third like
Speaker 1: you know, warm up game, but you're gonna play at
Speaker 1: least a half. So they got it's four. Now, it's
Speaker 1: four four, it's four still a health so healthy. So
Speaker 1: they'll be playing the normal their normal free season all
Speaker 1: four and then they got that early bye week. And
Speaker 1: that's the only thing as a rookie. They got all
Speaker 1: that training camp. And this is something that you're not
Speaker 1: used to. This is you know, college goes twelve games
Speaker 1: and they added the game the arts and I'll wear
Speaker 1: seventeen games plus that long train ain't in camp. You
Speaker 1: know who's not gonna be in at the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game. Bro Okay, Listen, Michael Parsons are not getting
Speaker 1: a full game of snaps and get a full game.
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph is not getting the full a full full
Speaker 1: snaps in the Hall of Fame game. It's not just
Speaker 1: the thing. How they going to camp. Well, yeah, if
Speaker 1: they're not playing, well, they ain't playing. Yeah, yeah, But
Speaker 1: but Michael Parson, he's not gonna be He's not He's
Speaker 1: not gonna be out there. He's gonna be chilling with Jalen.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't that be something you see el or James.
Speaker 1: If I'm Jay and I look over, I got my
Speaker 1: hat on, I'm eating my seeds in the preseason game,
Speaker 1: you know ain't gonna play a lot. I look over
Speaker 1: and I see right here beside me. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what's up? You know what's up? He better start, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see what I get. If you look
Speaker 1: over when you see the half, that's gotta be Man.
Speaker 1: What if you if you when you get to that game,
Speaker 1: if you're a rookie and you're not playing it and
Speaker 1: you got on street clothes, they mean you had a
Speaker 1: hell of a OTAs you have a hell of a
Speaker 1: minicamp and they are expecting you to really provide for
Speaker 1: them during to see it unless you hurt and you're
Speaker 1: a rookie and like Da Das ain't playing that in
Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame game. But we all saw that.
Speaker 1: But you know, so it's like it's not even worth
Speaker 1: it to risk it. Okay, that's that's a nugget right
Speaker 1: there for the audience right there, that's a good nugget.
Speaker 1: They're in trouble though, ain't that's in trouble. Listen, the
Speaker 1: man made a hell of a player yesterday, the hell
Speaker 1: of Spans. But was up the sideline. Who who's thrown it? Though?
Speaker 1: It don't matter he made the who was throwing the ball?
Speaker 1: Man threw a lot of balls yesterday. They weren't picked
Speaker 1: off Michael Parsons got We all know that's not you
Speaker 1: ain't got taking away from the man getting this interception.
Speaker 1: He held back double g. Last year. We're sitting back
Speaker 1: there at the town was a town RV whatever, And
Speaker 1: you was talking about the Nucci that was before the game,
Speaker 1: that before I saw what I so you on the nights?
Speaker 1: How was I wrong on the dudes? So you said
Speaker 1: should have played before the game. Before the game, remember
Speaker 1: that saying you know he has athletic he went out
Speaker 1: the Dalton. I should say they been de Nucci versus
Speaker 1: Trey Lance National Championship game up there in Frisco. So
Speaker 1: we'll always have that as a speaking of in trouble. Oh,
Speaker 1: Clippers are in trouble. Tonight, are they because the Mavericks
Speaker 1: can close them out. The road team has won every game.
Speaker 1: And here's the question I had in terms of the
Speaker 1: NBA versus the NFL. How do you look at a
Speaker 1: player making a lot of money who's not doing their part?
Speaker 1: And I bring that up because Christo sports Ingis is
Speaker 1: making one hundred and fifty eight million dollars and he's
Speaker 1: not even the second best player on the team and
Speaker 1: looking Dante just carrying him right now, how do guys
Speaker 1: in the room look at another dude making a big
Speaker 1: old check not getting it done, but winning is being
Speaker 1: done despite this. They usually don't happen in the NFL.
Speaker 1: If you if your big time player is not playing well,
Speaker 1: then you're usual you're usually losing. Um. But when you
Speaker 1: are losing and you're looking at that guy, you're also
Speaker 1: looking at management, like, man, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: Especially if this guy is one of those voiceous guys,
Speaker 1: one of those guys who the raw rock guys. Hey, bro, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: but you what are you talking about? Because you just
Speaker 1: missed three tackles that you're talking about over there. So
Speaker 1: I think what happens is the players behind the scenes
Speaker 1: lose a little faith in that person as a leader.
Speaker 1: But you know, in his face, it's like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're still the guy. But when you're going home, you're like, hey, bro, buddy, buddy, sorry,
Speaker 1: he's still have had plenty, plenty of conversations over the phone,
Speaker 1: rookie year. A couple of years. I thought he was
Speaker 1: supposed to be the truth. I ain't gonna say the name,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. He get like twenty getting like
Speaker 1: twenty a year. I thought he was supposed to be
Speaker 1: the truth. I don't know. So it happens, but like
Speaker 1: you said, I mean, if if he's that raw, raw
Speaker 1: guy that's in the locker room time, but we gotta
Speaker 1: win this, this is our championship. And he goes out
Speaker 1: there legs a stinker, you still gonna look at him
Speaker 1: like many. You know, yeah, you just ain't have it tonight.
Speaker 1: But like you said, you're gonna have conversations with your
Speaker 1: boys like man, hey, But he just ain't got it
Speaker 1: no more so when he started talking to everybody giving
Speaker 1: each other a look like he sports ingis kay, MAVs
Speaker 1: go win. They go in La. He goes show up
Speaker 1: in the strip club and he you know, potentially could
Speaker 1: have gotten suspended. But it's like Luca's out here carrying
Speaker 1: the team. You now caught up in the Strip club,
Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna notice a seven foot three white
Speaker 1: guy the Strip club in Los Angeles. They thought it
Speaker 1: was Dirk's and that's the other day. You're in the
Speaker 1: middle of the series. Well you ain't doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. But the largest contract Yeah in Dallas Mavericks history.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is I would have signed him too, the
Speaker 1: way he was playing in New York. I would have
Speaker 1: I would have gave him a nice no, no, maybe
Speaker 1: not one thing. Thing. I would have paid him some
Speaker 1: bread though, to come to my squad based off what
Speaker 1: I he has some you like injurduced, but based off
Speaker 1: the injuries that he had, he would have got a
Speaker 1: little less. But he was balling in New York. Here's
Speaker 1: here's my issue with the deal, because first everybody just
Speaker 1: gave it. Nobody said anything, but to not give yourself
Speaker 1: a team option in the last year with a guy
Speaker 1: who's got a history of being hurt and people that
Speaker 1: tall have that history, all, yeah, that was the thing.
Speaker 1: I just said, you know, wait, wait, wait, just you
Speaker 1: you need to protect yourself somehow on this especially. Man,
Speaker 1: it's the largest contract we ever give it out. We're
Speaker 1: taking care of you. We just need an insurance back.
Speaker 1: You're balling. Hey, it's gonna be yours, but if you're not,
Speaker 1: then we need to help here too. And he was
Speaker 1: gonna be in the position. No, I think he would
Speaker 1: have signed it. So that was my thing was just
Speaker 1: you needed to put out Luca. He's up, he's up
Speaker 1: this year, they're gonna sign. But you know you know
Speaker 1: that's no. Probably, Hey, man, go ahead, what you want,
Speaker 1: right to check. But you wrote a check to a
Speaker 1: guy who's been injured, who never played one single basketball
Speaker 1: game for you, and he gave yourself no protection, no
Speaker 1: out that I had a question. Probably I have a
Speaker 1: problem with that. Can he save itself by having a
Speaker 1: hell of a game tonight and hell of the rest
Speaker 1: of the playoffs by taking them? Yea, if he can,
Speaker 1: because because last year was bad too, he got injured. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then this year is all his will if he
Speaker 1: if he somehow, if he twenty and ten, guys, just
Speaker 1: give him twenty and ten. Oh give him that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's providing. No, DA can't give him twenty and ten
Speaker 1: and and Rember you know what a playing better than
Speaker 1: his It was the big boy wasn't use um if
Speaker 1: it he Smith is playing better. And that's the other issues. Man,
Speaker 1: you're seven foot three and Paul George basically stepped up
Speaker 1: to the microphone and said, yeah, there's no real room
Speaker 1: protector there, and then they go put Bobbie in the
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, bam. You know he's out here
Speaker 1: affecting the basketball game. And I'm sitting to myself there,
Speaker 1: Kay making one fifty eight seven three is a giraffe
Speaker 1: on skate side here. Yeah, but I said, you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna playing on defense. You gotta be putting up some buddy.
Speaker 1: You gotta beat dirt. Dirk wasn't gonna play no defense.
Speaker 1: But you know, all day and I had people say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, pushing gets to hit that shot at the end.
Speaker 1: That's like a guy at the park. You're at the
Speaker 1: park and one of your he's terrible, he's over ten,
Speaker 1: but for some reason he hit the game. This This
Speaker 1: was my game for the jump. That's the look. And
Speaker 1: actually actually someone told me that that was how he
Speaker 1: was acting the locker room after him, like like like
Speaker 1: like he hit I'm the man. Yeah, I sealed it.
Speaker 1: I sealed it. What Yeah, like like like Kyrie like
Speaker 1: he was kind of in the cash back and forth.
Speaker 1: He was just giving buckets. Hold on, le Bron will
Speaker 1: help you. Yeah that that that KP was was acting
Speaker 1: like that. I said really quick, two things, two things,
Speaker 1: two things. Lebron playing was sixteen years his first time
Speaker 1: being eliminated in the first round. I thought they was
Speaker 1: coming back. Last night they got it to nine. They
Speaker 1: started rolling, and Booker came out, thing and crowded. Crowder
Speaker 1: start hit a couple of thirties. So shout out to
Speaker 1: the brun because I know people gonna hate on him,
Speaker 1: but that's a long time to be playing before you
Speaker 1: experience you know that. Two. This Milwaukee in Brooklyn series
Speaker 1: is gonna be nice. It's gonna be fine. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. Yeah, this is this is gonna be Milwaukee
Speaker 1: taking them. I think Milwaukee gonna shock him. I think
Speaker 1: one time they're going to reach one hundred and fifty points.
Speaker 1: One of these games is gonna be like one fifty one.
Speaker 1: For years, you are trusting in, uh, the wrong head coach.
Speaker 1: So all I'm gonna say, I'm don know, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving me. I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna go to seven. I think it's go to seven.
Speaker 1: But I don't think the Katie and them are gonna
Speaker 1: gonna let theirselves lose to me walk in six. Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm not walking six. Anybody want to. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, you gotta do that off air because
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, I'm coaching. Can't do it, by
Speaker 1: the way, it can stop. I mean, can we just
Speaker 1: stop this? This whole Coach K is the greatest coach
Speaker 1: of all time? Can we stop this? Please? Are you jealous?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying when when people start to try and
Speaker 1: dinner grade and act like John Wooden's ten national championships
Speaker 1: or no big deal that he won seven in a
Speaker 1: row threw up a whole bunch of undefeated teams. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, look, coach K did. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: in North Carolina and I remember when they were trying
Speaker 1: to fire the dude. The guys are tremendous basketball coach.
Speaker 1: But when we want to say he's the greatest of
Speaker 1: all time and you gotta do to one ten national
Speaker 1: championships one seven in a row, We're gonna act like
Speaker 1: that didn't count. Lord, that was easy, then stop. You
Speaker 1: gotta let the hype that down a little bit. Though.
Speaker 1: They just hype about it right now because he's just
Speaker 1: they're doing the press conference and all that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: then yeah, just see what I'm just saying. He's kind
Speaker 1: of like a Bill Russell type, you know, like Bill
Speaker 1: us got eleven rings, but nobody really is like, is
Speaker 1: he the greatest? I don't know. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody said Bill Russell was the greatest, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Now they got Jordan Lebron. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people talk about Russell, it's the greatest winner. But but
Speaker 1: for me, when I look at John Wooden ten national championship,
Speaker 1: seven in a row, and I can't count how many
Speaker 1: undefeated seasons he had, Coach Ky didn't do that. What
Speaker 1: coach Kate did over the time period was pressive as heck.
Speaker 1: But when we praised people for championships and then we
Speaker 1: want to act like the championships don't matter. Hell, you know,
Speaker 1: it was easy. It was easier. I don't give a
Speaker 1: frogs fat ass how what you thought was he got
Speaker 1: it done? Because Robert Orris should definitely be one of
Speaker 1: the top players of all time, Robert na vibe, he
Speaker 1: dropping or I love or or my god, my god.
Speaker 1: But big Shot Bob was out there when he got
Speaker 1: when he got older, he was hitting big shot. It
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't big shots that he didn't he did
Speaker 1: on a consistent basics. I'll say this, if port Zingis
Speaker 1: could be big shot Bob, a lot of people would
Speaker 1: be very happy. Okay, you know what. This is the thing.
Speaker 1: And I remember Robert got there and he got his
Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars. I was there, and I'm telling
Speaker 1: you the way the guy went about his job and
Speaker 1: knew his role. This is the kind of guy you
Speaker 1: wanted on your team, and when you needed some help,
Speaker 1: he was there to give you the help. Port Zingis
Speaker 1: can't give you no help. Give me some damn help. Hell,
Speaker 1: Luke over there, so a big shot Bob. You think
Speaker 1: Luke Luca loved big shot right by the heck? Can
Speaker 1: you trade KP for a big shot Bob? So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit around here poop poo. What a
Speaker 1: man did to help. He was smart enough and that's
Speaker 1: your thing too. And you guys know smart enough and
Speaker 1: humble enough to say this is my role, I will
Speaker 1: accept my role. I'll fulfill my role, and then never
Speaker 1: stepped out of it. You know, so many times these
Speaker 1: guys they do a little something. You know, man, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, man, big shot Bob sat in the corner.
Speaker 1: Everybody bore towards Kobell. I'm sending you can get the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm sending you. I'm sending you Robert Roy's highlights. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll send me need him highlights. He comes out of
Speaker 1: the corner one of them highlight. I'm like, I can
Speaker 1: find a lot of those. I'm talking about. I ain't
Speaker 1: talking about back the Houston days. I'm talking about don't
Speaker 1: don't count days, don't count. They need to count me.
Speaker 1: I go back that like Vernon Max, Mad Max, another
Speaker 1: one of these guys. Man, when you needed it, he
Speaker 1: did it. Vinnie the Microwave Johnson, when you needed it,
Speaker 1: he was there to give it to you. My boy,
Speaker 1: Ray Allen, you need these kind of Yes. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it. But that was his thing. Man, love Rank,
Speaker 1: I love Rank coverage, high school man. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you don't do not know. I was brother to watch
Speaker 1: what that team was before he got there. Then Jerry
Speaker 1: makes the trade and didn't see how he was a
Speaker 1: part of that championship team and how he went about
Speaker 1: his work. Man, it's underrated. I'm just telling you it's
Speaker 1: rated perfectly right, right, I got it right. But it's
Speaker 1: like Jay Novchik man. You know, the guy was doing
Speaker 1: his thing with the Cowboys tight end spot. No, he's
Speaker 1: not a Hall of Famer, but you know what he was. Kid.
Speaker 1: He played his role right. You need guys to understand
Speaker 1: their role. Go out there, do their role. I mean,
Speaker 1: all I say is Chris tap Porzing. Isn't that I
Speaker 1: gotta watch that tonight, Dude, do something. Oh I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's my job. It's what I do. But
Speaker 1: can you can you block a shot? Can you? Can
Speaker 1: you be as good as Bobon was the other night?
Speaker 1: Probably not, but I mean you asked for a Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm asking as good as all right, Um,
Speaker 1: next week we'll talk mini camp on Friday. Cowboys have
Speaker 1: mini camp Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Then they're gone. Hopefully everybody
Speaker 1: and can enjoy their time off until training camp. Would
Speaker 1: be straight standy mccraie, that's bury Church. I'm gonna describe
Speaker 1: for Chris, for Aaron who helped us produce everything in
Speaker 1: the Back Players Last Back next Friday, right here on
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