WEBVTT - Zoolander with Kenice Mobley 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:02.080 On the Bechdelcast. 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.640 The questions asked if movies have women and them, are 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.399 all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do they 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:13.680 have individualism? It's the patriarchy, Zephy and Beast start changing 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:15.920 with the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.799 Hey, Jamie, Hey, Caitlyn, the Bechdel Cast is so hot 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:20.360 right now? 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.079 Really tell me more? 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.959 Well, it's I have nothing else to say, just that 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:27.160 it's really hot right now. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.480 Okay, well, good, good good. We need to make a living, 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:33.040 I guess. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:39.360 Yeah, so true, so true. Anyway, Hello, and welcome to 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.199 the very hot Bechdel Cast right now. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:43.600 The sexiest Bechtel Cast yet. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.120 Oh my gosh, so freaking sexy. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.400 Unless oh, when Wilson enters the zoom and then we're 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:54.280 in trouble. But then we'll become friends. Oh my god. Oh, 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.280 Welcome to the Zulander episode of the Bechdel Cast. My 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:58.680 name is Jamie Loftus, my. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.920 Name is Caitlyn Deronte. This is our show where we 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.840 examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the Bechdel 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.600 test as a jumping off point. But Jamie, what is that? 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:14.200 Well, well, well, and I'm like did zee. Lads, we'll 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.240 figure out. We'll figure it out. I have it in 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.320 my notes, but I watched it two days ago, and 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:22.880 literally my brain does not retain information for two days anymore. Okay. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.959 The Bechdel Test is a media metric created by queer 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.760 cartoonist Alison Bechtel, often called the Bechdel Wallace Test. Why 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.000 because it was co created by Liz Wallace, so that 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.800 makes sense. Lots of uses for this test. The one 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.880 we use requires to pass, two characters with names of 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.560 a marginalized gender talking to each other about something other 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.199 than a man for two lines of dialogue or more. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.680 Should be dialogue that moves the plot forward in some 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:56.920 way ideally, ideally, ideally, But if we like the movie honestly, 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.960 we'll be like, eh, shrey, kind of bezz. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.520 And if we hate the movie, even if it does pass, 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:04.800 we'll be like, it doesn't pass. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.960 That is true. There are movies that have like, actually 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.720 demonstrably passed that we're like, but let's be serious, but 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.560 spiritually no, it doesn't. So it's more of a vibe. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.440 At this point, we've been doing the show for almost 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:18.320 a decade. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.440 Truly, as you said, this is our Zoolander episode. We 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:28.959 have a six time guest. Yes, wow, okay. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.560 Your past jacket status. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.960 Yeah yeah, we owe you a house or something. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:34.639 I'll take it. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:37.440 Come on. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.720 She's a comedian. You've seen her on The Tonight Show, 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:45.320 Comedy Central, Netflix. She's gonna be doing her solo show 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.239 at the Black Women in Comedy Festival on February twenty seventh. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.640 She also, in addition to me, has a master's degree 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:58.200 in film from Boston University. Yea, and you've heard her 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:02.480 on dozens of other episodes. It's Canise Mobley, Hello. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:03.560 Welcome back. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.400 I'm so happy to be here. I'm just happy to 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.239 see your right and shining faces. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.120 Oh my gosh, hey Canise, welcome to the Bechdel Cast 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.600 Center for Kids who can't podcast? Good? 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:18.919 What is this a center for? Ed? 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:21.000 Gosh? 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.760 Which I say in real life too often. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.880 It's a very quotable movie. And tell us what your 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.160 your relationship with the movie is, Canise. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.520 Okay, So I had not watched this movie in five years, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.320 and I rewatched it to discuss with you, lovely ladies, 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.480 and to realize that big chunks of your personality came 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:47.760 from a weird movie from twenty five years ago. To 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.440 just have to accept that about yourself is hard. You 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:56.080 thought you were an individual creation, sprung a whole cloth 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:01.280 out of nothing, but no, you were just amalgamation of 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.600 other people's thoughts and that's okay. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.240 And that's okay. So this was a big movie of 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.440 your earlier life. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.800 Yes, absolutely, I watched this. So it came out in 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:17.320 two thousand and one. I definitely watched this throughout high school. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.440 Definitely quoted it with my friends a lot because we 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:26.720 all watched it. We were not cool, but this movie 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.200 made us feel cool to one another. 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.160 Nice. I love that. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:31.320 What about you guys? 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:32.720 Yeah, Jamie, how about you? 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.000 I'd never seen this, can you believe it? I'd never 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:41.160 seen Zoolander? And I was approaching it with I don't know. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:46.240 Ben Stiller has had such an interesting trajectory as a 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.880 person where he's he is I feel, I mean, I 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.240 don't know a lot about him personally, so hopefully there's 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.560 not something scary I don't know, but he is a 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.200 NEPO baby to root for. I think I had never 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.760 seen this. I was worried about it when I saw 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.920 the year it was released. And you're like, well, how 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.960 is this good to age? And the answer is certainly 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.520 not perfectly, but better than I thought. Yeah, there is 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:15.240 like an element of timelessness to this movie. It was 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.800 like saying more then I feel like that is such 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.040 a hard needle to thread in broad comedies like this, 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.480 where it's like this movie is saying something, but it's 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.360 not like bonking you over the head with it, which 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.080 is hard to do. I don't know, I was. I 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:34.040 was like, very, very very into this movie. I have 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.880 not seen this sequel, which I hear is very transphobic. Yeah, 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.920 I hear that the sequel is like is garbage, but 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.080 this is this is my entry and probably exit because 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.520 it sounds like this sequel's bad into the Zuelander expanded universe, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.640 and I was into it. I like, Derek, I love himbos, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.760 you know, like we just need to get the hit 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.400 if we truly get the hymbos on our side, if 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.400 we can get the hembos out to some protests, we're cooking. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.400 And I feel like that is It actually made me 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.880 think about La Protests a lot, where it's like you 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.280 just got to get the himbos, you know, activated in 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:10.960 the right direction. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:12.239 It helps. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.120 I volunteered with many Derek Szulanders in my day. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:16.400 Yes, I want. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.200 I have been a bookish lady my whole life, but 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.640 I love a dumb jock hook and that has been 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.920 a fun part of my life for years. I'm pro that. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.360 But they have a gasoline fight with their mouths open. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:35.200 Their mouths are open. During that gasoline fight, he gets 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:40.600 strayed with water from somebody driving by, and then he 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.640 goes home. Notice he does not at any point wash 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.720 his face or take off his jacket that was dripping 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.480 with New York City street water, and then just lays 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:51.400 in his bed. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.360 I do like that this would be. There were certain 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.680 moments of this movie where I didn't see coming, such 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:02.000 as seeing a young Alexander Scars blow up. Was not 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.240 ready for that. I was like, whoa, wow, interesting. I mean, mekus, 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.160 I guess so. I was just like, I was like 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.840 squinting at the screen, like, hold on, there's no way, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.960 but there is. Then he's and then he's dead two 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:19.080 minutes later. It's so wild. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.080 there's just stuff about this movie that doesn't age well, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.400 such as Andy Dick in general. But I was impressed 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.280 with this Vivie. I really enjoyed it. Caitlyn what's your 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:28.360 history of Zoolander. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.320 My history is similar to Canisi's in that I watched 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:36.560 this movie a lot in the early to mid two thousands. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.360 The little cough that Derek Zulander does where he's just like, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:47.800 I'll just do that sometimes in life. I liked it 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:51.080 because I think that, again, not all of the humor 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:56.080 holds up, certainly, but enough of it does that I'm like, Okay, 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.680 you're actually saying something here. It reminds me of Josie 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.960 and the puss Cats, another one of my favorite movies, 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:07.200 because it's about you know, conspiracies hidden in the entertainment 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:12.360 industry that exists to manipulate or exploit people. And so 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.240 they're very similar movies to me. So I think this 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.920 is just like a subgenre that I enjoy. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.560 Yeah, that like came out during a very specific time 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.240 because their aesthetics are very similar to Yeah, like, they're 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.480 both super I mean, this is like the most boring 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.840 complaint to make about movies, but like, wow, these movies 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.920 are so colorful. Movies aren't colorful anymore. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.880 So I love this movie, you know, as a young adult. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.000 But then I stopped watching it. I hadn't seen it 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.959 in probably like ten or more years, so there's a 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.600 pretty big gap, and I couldn't remember all the things 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.440 about it. Certainly there were jokes that I was like, oh, yes, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.080 we'll talk about them. But overall, this movie does hold 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.760 up better than you might expect. So let's take a 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.480 quick break and then we'll come back and do the recap. Yeah, 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:20.000 and we're back and here's the recap. Oh right, I 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:21.040 forgot Zuelander. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:26.000 There's also the Donald Trump caveo jumps that as well. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:27.520 He did not love to see it. I can't believe 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.640 I've brought up. I mean, to me, personally, Donald Trump 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.679 and Andy Dick are comparably evil. Andy Dick just has 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.520 less power. But yeah, there are there are some of 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.319 history's greatest monsters that make cameo appearances in this movie. Yeah. 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.520 I was just like, genuinely, I was enjoying it so much. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.320 And then it was like like when Trump showed up, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.640 I was like, no, not in Oh no, he's in 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.760 the past too. He exists everywhere. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.920 We were talking about this recently where it's like if 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.600 Donald Trump makes so many cameos during of this ten 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.760 year period. But also, Kaitlyn, when you're talking about Gremlins two, 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.760 and You're like, so many villains over like a period 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.839 of forty years in movies are clearly mapped on him too. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.319 Yeah, iff in Back to the Future two is very 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.880 clearly mapped onto Donald Trump. He does a cameo in 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.959 Home Alone two famously. Yeah, he has a cameo in 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.640 Little Rascals. Oh, if anyone remembers that. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:26.520 I do. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:31.120 I do, remember that he's just in movies and now 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:35.280 he's our fascist American president and you hate to see it. 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:36.599 You know what? 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.760 Cameo is awesome though, and holds up amazingly well, Billy Zayne. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.360 I yes, Yeah, However, many nipples I end up giving 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.280 a spoiler alert, they're all going to Billy's he slays this. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.120 This also starts a pattern in his career of him 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.800 make He's very open to making cameos as himself, which 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.160 understandably many actors aren't. But Billy's aid, you know, he's 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.720 one of us. He's got like Billy's saying, and I can, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.640 I can say insider Hollywood info. Billy's aye sits with 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.360 the crew. He's not a diva. He's not a diva. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:10.280 He's nice. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:12.240 What's he been doing? 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.120 Oh, he's been well, he's playing. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:15.439 Oh who is he? 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.280 Who is he playing? In an upcoming movie? He's in 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:18.160 a biopic? 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.760 Soon is he Marlon Brando in a movie? 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.800 I think he might be playing Marlon Brando. I really 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.480 think that the zannaissance is going to come upon us 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.400 because we like he's very, very talented. I think he 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.920 got so typecast after Titanic in a way that was 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:36.960 like hard to bounce back from. But he's a great 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:41.240 comic actor. He's a great dramatic actor. The guy can 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:41.840 read the room. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:46.120 I just I want his features are striking, Like I 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.160 know that's here to say, especially in a movie about 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.880 male models. But of the people in this movie, I'm like, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.400 damn Billy zaying turn it down. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.959 His resting face is just magnum. He has magnum. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.599 He ah man, I just I just love that that 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.679 damn Billy's aim. What a He has such riz And 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.839 it's it's not fair because they I think they like 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.839 hot him down in Titanic because he has to be 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.640 next to young Leo. They put on like the weird 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.839 eye makeup that is like Vaudeville villain coated or whatever, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:19.880 and like a weird. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.200 Hair flip that. I'm like, is that his actual hair? 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.640 Is that? Because it looks like a wig on top? Like, 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.439 it's just I don't like it. You guys have the 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:27.880 Titanic experts. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:28.160 But thank you. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.520 But when they let him go bald Moude, You're like, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.600 this is this is a beautiful man. I mean, yes, 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.480 he's just yeah, he's going to play Caitlin. I think 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.559 you're right, Yes he's playing. This year, he's playing Marlon 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:48.320 Brando in Waltzing with Brando alongside John Heater whoa aka Napoleon, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.800 and Richard Dreyfus. I don't know, no accounting for it. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.520 I thought Richard Dreyfus was dead. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.160 This also comes as a surprise to me. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:12:59.600 No apparent. 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.880 He's he's seventy seven. He's alive and well in the 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.600 upcoming Marlon Brando Billy's Aane biopic. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:11.400 Wow, look at god, this is just wild fascinating. Anyway, 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.880 Here's what happens in the movie Zoolander. All right, all right, okay. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.679 We open on a news story about the new Prime 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.679 Minister of Malaysia promising to raise the minimum wage and 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.599 to end child labor once and for all. Watching this 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.880 news story is a group of fashion industry moguls who 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:37.000 rely on exploited child labor in sweatshops in countries like 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:41.000 Malaysia to make a profit, and so they want a 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:47.199 fashion designer named jakobiim Mugatu played by Will Ferrell, to 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.920 find someone to kill the Prime Minister of Malaysia when 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.840 he visits New York City in two weeks, which coincides 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:55.880 with Fashion Week. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.040 This is the perfect use of Will Ferrell. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:02.920 I feel, yes, I agree perfectly civil Ferreal, but I 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.800 also love the idea that, like everyone agrees child labor 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.040 is bad because we're not there anymore, and we may 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.679 people on the Republican side arguing that kids deserve the 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:15.440 right to work. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:16.840 Yeah, Bill's character. 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.920 Yeah, so genuinely to watch this, it's like, oh no, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.000 some of the people who saw this were like, haha, yes, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.640 we should give children jobs. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.600 Like, yeah, I have a whole chalan did the research 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.520 feel that I'm gonna go into I'm gonna talk about 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.520 the DRC. It's bear with me for that, but. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.920 No, it's I mean, but that's like covertly what this 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.080 movie is trying to get you to think about too. 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.560 It's really I I this is gonna come up an 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.160 annoying amount of times because I watched Network for the 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.680 first time over the weekend. I don't know why, but 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.440 it was like my it was just my time. I 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:54.440 just felt like it. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.480 I mean, you're mad as hell and you're not gonna 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:57.240 take it anymore. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.560 I mean, I'm probably gonna choose it for the matrim 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.320 for my read because what a movie. It's so good. 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.200 But I feel like it's like starting a weirdly similar 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.120 discussion to what you're just saying Kenese of like everyone 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.120 behind closed doors is like, well, yeah, obviously this is horrible, 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.160 but should we do it? And like it is weirdly 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.280 like gratifying to see that behind closed doors, no matter 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.880 how gaslight you are as a normal person, they know 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.200 it's bad. They just are trying to decide if it's 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.520 advantageous to care or not. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:33.040 Right, So, anyway, this is their plan. They need an 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.000 assassin to kill the Prime Minister of Malaysia, and the 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.840 ideal candidate to do this would be a shallow, empty 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:46.680 headed dim wit. Cut to Derek Zoolander played by Ben Stiller, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:52.440 a shallow, empty headed, dim witted male model who is 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:58.440 being interviewed by an investigatory journalist Matilda Jeffries played by 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.960 Christine Taylor, a Ben Stiller's real life his wife. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.560 Yeah and didn't know, didn't know? 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.840 Oh really Yeah, yeah, they've been married for a while. Yeah. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.600 Derek tells her that he is known for his signature look, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:19.840 Blue Steel, though he's working on another look called Magnum, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.600 though it's not yet perfected. It's not ready yet. Then 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:28.360 it's the night of the VH one Fashion Awards. Derek 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.240 Zulander is expecting to win Male Model of the Year 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.720 for the fourth year in a row. Also, there is 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.600 Derek's rival, an up and coming male model named Hansel 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.160 played by Owen Wilson, who is so hot right now. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.240 I say that all the time that so and so 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.280 is so hot right now, and I didn't think about 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.720 it again until I watched this. I'm sorry, Okay, I. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.440 Really I feel like, wait, what is the the Bill 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.280 Hayter character Steffan. It's like Stefan exists to me in 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.680 the Zuelander Expanded universe, But that's Zuelander. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.000 We would not have Steffan think so yeah, acur it. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:01.440 Yeah. 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.440 So, the Male Model of the Year award goes to Hansel, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.320 who is so hot right now. But Derek just assumes 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.879 that he won, so he goes on stage to accept 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:15.720 the award. He makes a fool of himself, and Mugatu realizes, Oh, 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.280 he's the guy we need to carry out this assassination. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:25.840 So Mugatu approaches Derek's manager, agent Maury Balstein played by 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:32.160 Jerry Stiller aka Ben Stiller's real life his father. Meanwhile, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.720 Derek is on stage. He's humiliated. He's starting to think 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.200 that maybe there's more to life than being really really 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:39.520 ridiculously good looking. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.919 I love when a him vo. It's just so charming. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.720 When a Himvo's like, is there much more than this 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:50.000 provincial life? And you're like, King, yes, yes there is, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.080 follow me yes. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.440 But his three male model roommates Rufus, Brent and Meekus. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.120 Every character name in this movie is per so good. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.600 They aren't really listening. They're more focused on going out 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:11.480 for orange mocha frappuccinos. But then the three roommates die 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.399 in a gas station accident slash explosion. 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.480 Greek gasoline fight accident. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.320 I feel like it's like for this day. I was like, okay, 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.040 I'm just it's satire. I don't know, I don't know 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.960 these guys, I wonder I'd actually be really curious, like 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.280 what models think of this movie. I feel like my 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.800 my feeling is they probably embraced it, but I'm curious. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:36.200 I don't know. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.600 Well you do you know. 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:42.639 You would know models? Kyler. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.160 I Okay, this is the most la thing I've ever 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:52.080 done or said. But my trainer is a model slash actor, 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:56.359 slash trainer, and I told him we were covering this 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.080 movie and he's like, I love the movie, Zulander. 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.960 Yes, okay, okay, good, this makes you feel better about it? 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:04.879 Yes, I mean I just tried to put myself in 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.720 the mindspace of like, if someone made a movie presenting 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.680 stand up comics as brand dead, I would have no 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.800 issue with it, because like there's some truth to that, 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:14.480 you know. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.960 I prefer them do that than what they do, which 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.879 is like, hey, I get up there and I was 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:22.840 drunk and I tried to stand up once and I'm 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.920 the best in the world, and then write five seasons 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.960 of a TV show about it. Whatever. But I just 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.600 I think the depictions are not funny. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.280 So yes, this parity better. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.720 Yeah. Oh and I wanted to say, I know I've 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:41.359 mentioned this before, but okay, so they're going at the 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:41.879 car wash. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.240 You do not like this scene. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.200 It bothers me so much. They're using the like the 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.440 wiper stuff, like the hey wipe off your windshield and 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.960 they start flinging that at each other's bodies. Gross with 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.960 their mouths open you And then how cheap is gas 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.720 that They're like, we're gonna fill out this car. We're 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.840 also gonna spray gasoline all over the place. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.679 Two thousand and one it was like nine eleven dollar fifty. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.960 Yeah, oh my god, sorry, it just and your mouth 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:12.879 is open old. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.480 Time, like the taste what I'm getting? What I guess 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.560 I'm trying to put myself in two thousand and one brain. 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.159 And I feel like, even though like the whole like 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:26.000 gender swapping stuff is pretty dated a concept at this point, 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.600 I feel like it had to have been like pretty 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:33.639 subversive at the time to present hot men as vapid 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.760 in a way that we usually see hot women presented. Yes, 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.520 I don't know, true, but I was watching Shrek in 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.920 two thousand and one, so I don't know. 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:49.280 Never forget Okay. So there's this gas station explosion and 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.280 at the funeral, while Derek is giving his you googly, 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:58.400 Derek announces that he's retiring from male modeling. He wants 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.400 to do more meaningful work than it helps people, maybe 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.000 even open up the Derek Zulander Center for kids who 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.920 can't read good. His agent Morey tells him he can't 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:13.240 retire because Mugatu, who has never hired Derek before, finally 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:17.840 wants him for his new campaign, but Derek refuses and 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:24.240 goes back home to coal mining country, New Jersey, where 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.600 his family lives. His dad played by John Voyd, and 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:32.639 two brothers played by Vince Vaughan and Judah Friedlander, who 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.320 I don't think to say any lines of dialogue really. 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:40.359 I think Vince Vaughn maybe speaks once. Yeah, Judah Friedlander 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:41.959 is a glorified extra. 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.520 I did not know that was Judah Friedlander. 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:45.280 That's Judah. 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:49.200 That's what he looks like. And the hair out the sides, that's. 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:51.160 Right. 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.800 I like that they all have the same resting face. 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.119 So much of this movie is so funny to me. 0:21:59.080 --> 0:21:59.920 I just so good. 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:04.440 Anyway. They're ashamed of Derek and his job because he's 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.480 not living up to their rigid gender expectations of being 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:13.920 hyper masculine, so eventually Derek returns to the city to 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:19.639