1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Cam. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Ken 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: is Away today. You have the chase on in the room? Yeah, 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I do. And there's this guy looks like he's sucking 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: helium from a balloon in this white pickup truck and 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: there are a bunch of police cars behind him. We 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: have no idea why they were chasing him. But can 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: you see that big white balloon? Yes, I can. I've 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: been watching it for about five minutes. He really threw 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: me off there. I see him sucking helium from It's like, 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: what there's a dog running by now? Oh yeah, he's 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: he's right at the edge of a cement river. Um oh, 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: I hope the dog's okay. And it's like a spray. 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: It looks like he got himself into a dead end 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: up against the river. Um oh. There are cops with 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: their their guns drawn. The dog just literally walked right 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: by them. Well he's it's it's a white pickup and 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: he's got a wood in the back, like tree stumps 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: in the back, it looks like. And he was chased 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: and the police executed two pittmaneuvers on him and both 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: times he got spun around him. Then he jumped over 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: the medium and went into the other direction. He's at 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Poplus Street, North Willmington Avenue. Where would that be. I 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: know he was in Compton for a time, but I'm 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: not familiar with this neighborhood. And he's at the end 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: of a street which leads into a fence overlooking the 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Sment River and he's just hanging out. I don't know 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: what the heck he's doing. And he's slow. He's sucking 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: on helium. Are flowing up the balloon? Yes, he look, 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: he's he's holding it. Yeah, he's he's he's moving around 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: in the front seat with the balloon. All right, Steve 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: Gregory's here for another news story. But you've seen everything. 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: What's he doing with the balloon here? Why do you 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: ask me that? I don't know? But I heard story? 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: You know it's this new territory here. No, No, it's 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: not actually, um you know helium, I don't know. Lissie 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: wants to just hear himself talking a high pitch. Other 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: than that, you know, it could be a nitrous Do 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: you think he was sucking in or blowing out? Like? 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Was he trying to blow up the balloon or was 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: stuck on the helium at it. Yeah, because it could 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: be nitrous too, because people you know, oh he's getting 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: high then, yeah he's getting high. That would make yeah 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: with the paint, he's uffing out of a balloon. But 45 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: you never know, you know, they could they could inserted 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: didn't look there you go there is again. So yeah, 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of cops. But look at that though there. 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah that oh look he's you think he's gonna 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: push him over into that river? I don't know. I 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: mean there's a chain link fence in the way. Oh 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: they've blocked him. Yeah he's done now yeah, he's got 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: no wordy Oh this would be a standout for a while. 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: So he's just gonna sit there and get him. Yeah. 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: And you know, yesterday I just went on the Elle 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Pursuit training track. Yes, yeah, so I got 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: to go up and drive the cars yesterday. It was fantastic. 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah so the real cars right now? Oh yeah, those SUVs. 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: We were driving those SUVs, no kidding. Yeah, so those 59 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: are police interceptors. So we did the track yesterday and 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: they put in two or three scenarios for us and 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: one of them was actually pursued a pursuit of an 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: armed robbery suspect. And you know, we had to do 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: the radio, we had to do the calls and all 64 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: this stuff is just to trade. You're chasing the I'm 65 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: chasing the suspect. Yeah, and it's fascinating because one thing, Wait, 66 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: there's some smoke now coming out of there. You go 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: truck trying to do it. Close up on the driver, 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: he's doing a bong. Oh there's smoking coming from the front. 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: I think he's smoking. Yeah, he's smoking. So he second 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: on the balloon and he's getting high. But you know 71 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: what they're doing now is that you know, they've got 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: time on their side. They don't have to take any 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: action if they don't do there's no eminute threat to 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: anybody else but himself. But these pursuits, believe it or not, 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: the policy is they have to drive the speed limit 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: for pursuit. The only threshold they have is about twenty 77 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: miles over the posted speed limit. That's a stage law. 78 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Yeah, because you see these guys 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: driving one hundred miles an hour, but the cops aren't 80 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: driving a hundred miles an hour. If you watch the 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: way they do it. It's all about rules of engagement, 82 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: and the deputies on the ground or the officers on 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: the ground, they coordinate with their supervisors or their watch commander. Oh, 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: that's interesting. The deputies are retreating. Well, he's talking to them. 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: He's sticking his head out the window and he was 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: saying something. Now, so you can see he's still talking 87 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: and engaging with the officers. Uh. Yeah, he's high. You 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: can tell by just you're doing smoking the balloons. He's 89 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: probably in a complete state. He's throwing something out the window. 90 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: Now what is that? Looks like an article of clothing 91 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: or something. Threw his ball out the window. But to 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: finish the thought there that the Yeah, so they have 93 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: very strict policies on how fast they can go, so 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: they have to hand it off I guess to the 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: next group of officers. Yeah in some cases, yeah, some 96 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: cases the last persistence or however, you know, depending on 97 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: where the it starts. But um, you know, when they're 98 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: chasing like that, they have to decide and work with 99 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: their watch commanders and dispatch and whether or not to 100 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: retreat from the chase, because disengaging is just as important 101 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: in a chase like this as engaging and not a 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: freeway chase though where he's going one hundred and ten. Well, 103 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like they're hanging back and obeying a speed. 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: You'd be surprised on how it looks like they're going 105 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: super fast. But yesterday when I was going around that 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: track and it felt like I was going one hundred 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: miles an hour and I look down, I'm going fifty five. 108 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: It's really weird. Yeah, but you have this sense that 109 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: you're you're flying down this distrack, and so did you 110 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: catch your guy? It got so how do I put this? 111 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: I had an instructor on the right side, and anyone 112 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: that remembers driver's ad had a break. They had a 113 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: break over there on the on the passenger side, and 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: so I was getting it was getting so fast, and 115 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: I was getting so um focused on getting the bad 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: guy that I got too close, and I was, I mean, 117 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: I was about ready to do a pit maneuver on 118 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: the guy and run him off the road. The instructor 119 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: had to hit the break and go, Okay, you got him, 120 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: you got him, you got it. Slow down. It was intense. 121 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: I can understand why these some of these officers might 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: have the two were ready to jump out with Oh 123 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: heck yeah, I was. I had every weapon at my disposal. 124 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: I was ready to go full for us man and 125 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: it's no way. And then they actually put us through 126 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: scenarios where they were chasing us and how we were 127 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: gonna shake the person. Oh, it was fascinating with the 128 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: Elly County Sheriff's apartment, the training and so the feature 129 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: is going to come out next week. We have all 130 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: the video. We took video from inside the car, outside 131 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: the car, we got drone footage. Um, it's pretty cool. 132 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: We're putting we're putting it all together for next weeks. Right, well, 133 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: can you stayed out the second to talk about the 134 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: reason last night originally got into last night and this 135 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: is the shooting of three LAPD officers and Lincoln Heights 136 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: suspects dead and Steve will tell you the story coming 137 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: up next. And we track of crazy guy and his 138 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: balloon and his bond and he's Poplar Street and North 139 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: Wilmington Avenue. You're listening to John and Ken on demand 140 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: from kf I AM sixty. Standoff continues in Compton and 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Poplar and North Wilmington Avenue right near a fence and 142 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: a cement river. A guy is boxed in at the 143 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: end of a street and he's been sucking out of 144 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: a balloon. Looks blowing smoke from a bond. Maybe he's 145 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: that guy or a vape. I think he's vaping. Yeah, 146 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: maybe there's police with Oh now they're walking towards with 147 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: a shield. There's four of them behind his shield. Yeah, 148 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: what's that shield? Native? Oh, that's that's heavy. Oh they 149 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: got gas, they got the cap sasan Oh, they're putting 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: the pepper spare in there. It looks like they sprayed 151 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: it in his in the flat bed. No, through the 152 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: back window, through the back window. Now he's getting fresh air. Oh, 153 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: it just rolls down the window. He sticking his head out. 154 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: So the back window was open. I guess must bend. 155 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: They were able to lob that thing in there. Yeah. 156 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: He's got a white pickup truck with what looks like 157 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: are those wooden stumps? Yeah, that's what I thought they were. 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: They looks like three stumps. Yeah, the three stumps, brown 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: circular future coffee tables, yeah right, or end tables, future 160 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: end tables. All right, So let's get to where you started. 161 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: Is no problem. Three LAPD officers shot in Lincoln Heights 162 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: suspect Dad. What happened, Yeah, yesterday afternoon. It looks like 163 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: an undercover unit with LAPD from the Hollenbeck Division was 164 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: actually surveilling this guy. And we're talking about Lincoln Heights 165 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: area of East LA and apparently some gunfire had been 166 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: heard in the neighborhood. It's not clear what prompted the 167 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: initial volley of gunfire, and it's not clear if this 168 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: guy was the one shooting or if he was shooting 169 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: at something or someone, but it did attract the attention 170 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: of their officers from Hollenbeck Division, and when they got 171 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: there this guy, they'd searched the area and then this 172 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: guy retreated into a shed and when he refused to 173 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: come out, they then called in a swat team or 174 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: excuse me, a canine unit. They called in canine units, 175 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: and the canine units came in and he still didn't 176 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: come out, so they lobbed in some gas. Well, typically 177 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: when someone lobs gas in like that, they usually surrender. 178 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: They usually come out. It disorients them, and in this case, 179 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: he opened the door and then opened fire, striking the 180 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: three officers. And we were told that officers returned fire 181 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: We're not sure if all three returned fire, how many 182 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: and then he closed the door. Then SWAT was called in, 183 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: SWAT contains the area closes in. Then they sent in 184 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: a robot. The robot goes in, it takes a look, 185 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: and then they find the body of this guy on 186 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: the floor of the shed. And then all these questions 187 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: start to swirl around, Well did he die of self 188 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: inflicted gunshot or was he shot by officers and then 189 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: returned fire. So that was sort of the big question. 190 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: How badly heard of the officers. They're actually doing really well, 191 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: And I just got a text a moment ago that 192 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: says two of them were going to be released in 193 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: the hour, within the hour. Their injuries were very they 194 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: were serious in nature, but they weren't life threatening and 195 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: they weren't critical. They were serious only because there are 196 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: multiple gunshots and one of the officers got hit like 197 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: four or five times, yea, four or five areas of injury. 198 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: Most of them were arms, ankles, legs. One guy got 199 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: hit in an abdomen area when in a torso area, 200 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: but it missed all vital areas. Incredibly lucky, yeah, very 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: much so. And I'm sure they were all wearing their vests, 202 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: so that probably helped immensely. The thing is now is 203 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: I was just told whom the name of this guy, 204 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Jonathan mcgona, was on parole for robbery on parole. Yeah, 205 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: so he was a parole at large and that was 206 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why he was being watched. Had 207 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: he not complied with the parole rules, I guess not. 208 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: He didn't show up or do whatever it is he 209 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: had to do, But they classified him as a parole 210 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: at large, So he was already a bad dude by 211 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: the time he got him, right, so they weren't. They weren't. 212 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: Do we know what his uh crimes were? Robbery? I 213 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: mean just one robbery. It just says he one's on 214 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: parole for robbery, all right, So it had so if 215 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: he was on parole for robbery, it had to be 216 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: armed robbery. I'm sure it had to be felony, A 217 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: felonious yea. So he wasn't involved in a crime they 218 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: think at that moment though, or well I'm getting conflicting information. 219 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: I have sources telling me that it was a narco 220 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: unit that was surveiling him, so it might have been 221 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: drug related. Hey, guys, the police officers getting closer to 222 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: this guy. John, you missed the belly. His shirt kind 223 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: of came up and his belly was hanging out the window. 224 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: Its belly was hanging out. Why would you notice that? 225 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: Because it was It was pretty prominent, Steve, it was 226 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: And I know that John. No, I'm not the John. 227 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: He's leaning out again. He's he's hoisted him himself up 228 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: out the side window. He's so high, right, and he's 229 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: waving his arms in the air. Look at him. He's 230 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: so Yeah, he's just out of it. Top half of 231 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: his body is sticking out the driver's side window. He's 232 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: leaning out. He's yelling at the cops, and the cops 233 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: have weapons are trained on him. What about eight Yeah, yeah, 234 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: there's there's eight guns and ride at his head and 235 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: torso there. Uh yeah, they're just gonna they're just gonna 236 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: talk with him and let him mumble himself out of 237 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: What does he think his leverage is right now? I 238 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: don't think he's thinking what was in that balloon. He's 239 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: probably wondering when the video game's gonna end. Yeah, looks 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: like he just blew his nose in his shirt. The 241 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: pepper sprays getting to him. Yeah. Yeah, so you know, 242 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: they're just trying to reason with him at this point. 243 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: But the way he was driving and the way he's 244 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: acting right now, he's obviously on some sort of substance. Yes, 245 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty um because even I don't know this is Yeah, 246 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna sit there and talk to him forever. Yeah, 247 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: let's go out a while. Yeah. So going back, going 248 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: back to the guy he shot the three cops. He's dead. Yeah, 249 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: he's dead. No, So no loss there. Well, so the 250 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: question now is how did you know? How did he die? 251 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: And so I found out this morning from someone that 252 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: that had internal knowledge of this, that one of the 253 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: robots when they caught the image of the guy dead 254 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: on the floor, they also caught an image of a 255 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: gunshot wound to the temple. Right, So it's not all 256 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: at all points to it all points to probably him 257 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 1: shooting himself. Yeah. I guess he didn't want to go 258 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: back to prison. Yeah, maybe he didn't have a good time. 259 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: So he was born in nineteen ninety, so that would 260 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: make him what thirty something, Yeah, yeah, thirty something, so 261 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: um yeah, Jonathan mcgonia is his name, and uh, well 262 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: real productive life. Yeah, it was. It was a mess 263 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: down there last night, for sure. So that's uh, that's 264 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: the latest. Two officers will be released within the hour, 265 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm told, And then you've got a third officer still 266 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: at USC Medical Center, and but that their injuries are 267 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: not life turning. All right, good, very good, Steve, Thank 268 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: you very much. I'm gonna sit here and wats the 269 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: restle this with you? Oh? Yeah, this is good entertainment here. 270 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: Nobody's getting hurt. They're at Poplar Street North Willington Avenue 271 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: in Compton, and that those are Sheriff's deputies, right, that's 272 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: a LA count sheriff, right, And they cornered a white 273 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: pickup truck. A guy sitting in the front seat now 274 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: is leaning out the driver's window. He's at the end 275 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: of a block and he's just a few feet away 276 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: from a chain link fence that overlooks one of LA's 277 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: famous cement rivers. So he's got nowhere to go. He's 278 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: kind of at a dead end, and the cops are 279 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: surround behind him. There's at least eight cops with guns 280 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: pointed at him, and he's now yelling back at them 281 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: and they just keep pointing their weapons. Looks to be 282 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: in u well, look at look at that trail of 283 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: cop cars that they you and and it's about a 284 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: block from a middle school by the way, this location right, 285 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: so I'm sure the school is I mean, they're worried 286 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: probably about that as well. And look down below on 287 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: the other side of the river, they've got another half 288 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: a dozen cop cars in case, I don't know, he 289 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: would leap the fence and dive into the river. And 290 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: one thing for sure, he's never getting a way out 291 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: of this. Yes, he thinks he's got some charm left 292 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: in him because he's he's still still yapping at the cops. 293 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: So I will tell you that this kind of de 294 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: escalation training right now is what's very paramount with both 295 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: La County Sheriff and LAPD. They're working on new training 296 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: techniques for this for this scenario right here. The challenge 297 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: that deputies have in these cases is when someone's on 298 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: some sort of drugs or alcohol like this, they're not 299 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: reasonable and it's hard to talk with him. Now, look 300 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: at the postures. See they're they're bringing those those shields 301 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: back up, so they're they're sitting there. They're strategizing right 302 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: now whether to just go in and grab him the 303 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: cops are putting on gas masks. Uh no, they just 304 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: got that shield up there at which means he's going 305 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: to leave that that congol Eric thought he saw something. 306 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: So a couple of them are wearing gas masks. Steve. 307 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: When the frame was zoomed out a bit, you could 308 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: see I didn't see on the gas masks in hand. Um, 309 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: but they what will happen is they're they're posturing now 310 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: and you see them. Yeah, oh you must be watching. 311 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Are you watching a different channel? You must be all 312 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: right there? So they're going hard with their shield. Yeah, 313 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: and then he noticed the yellow the yellow weapon on 314 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: the right bottom. Right there, there's a yellow weapon. Those 315 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: yellow weapons that's less lethal. So those are going to 316 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: be like the bean bags or uh yes, he right there, 317 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: that's I see that. Yeah, that's gonna be like a simming, 318 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: like a paintball gun kind of thing. Well you've got there. 319 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: They're holding the shield and there's about a half a 320 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: dozen cops and see like up the window, the window 321 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: he's not taking visitors. Well they're yeah, they're going to 322 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: go and extract him. And see that's a teaser. Right, 323 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: he's moving the car. He's trying to he's backing up. Yeah, 324 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: there there's a police car right behind him, and he's 325 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: trying to push that police car out of the way. 326 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: He's got his wheels, yeah, wheels are spinning, and smoke 327 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: is coming from the back tire now and he's sticking 328 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: his head out the window again and well, lots of 329 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: smoke coming from the two back tires. That's not good. No, um, 330 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: so's he's destroying those tires and he's got no am. Yeah. 331 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: This if he starts to do that again, it escalates 332 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: because what happens is that that truck becomes a weapon. 333 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: And that's one thing he doesn't realize. Well, all that heat, 334 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: smoke from the friction, could that could that ignite a fire? 335 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely it did on that one, Remember that one big 336 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: chase that afternoon. We were all watching out there, and 337 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: that that's exactly what happened and ignited that rear Wheelwell, um, 338 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: and then he got bad. But this year, if he's 339 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: not careful and he tries to ram these officers or 340 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: these deputies he ran tries to ram them, they're they're 341 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: authorized to usually for a force. I was going to 342 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: ask you, at what point can what would he have 343 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: to do to earn some bullets. Well, if he uses 344 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: that truck as a weapon and intentionally tries to run 345 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: those deputies down, Yeah yeah, all right, Well let's uh, 346 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: let's have ever do the rest of the news in 347 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: the twenty first No one wants to hear the rest 348 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: of the news. They want to hear this. Yeah, well 349 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: we'll come back to that. If something happened, I'll break in. 350 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: Interrupt your will interrupt, break in your own self. That 351 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: might be interesting. You're listening to John and Ken on 352 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: demand from kf I Am sixty. We're enjoying a police 353 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: stand off or a suspect in Compton who took the 354 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: police on a chase. He's driving a white pickup truck 355 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: and in the flatbed he's got looks like about five 356 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: or six tree stumps. They look like tree stumps from here. 357 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: And he's in the cab of the truck, and he 358 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: was looked as if he was inhaling something out of 359 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: a balloon, and he also fired up something that he 360 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: was smoking, maybe a vape or a bong. And he's 361 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: at a dead end street and just a few feet 362 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: from a chain link fence that overlooks one of those 363 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: lovely cement rivers. He's boxed in by police cars and 364 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: garbage cans and parked cars at the end of the street, 365 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: and he's got nowhere to go, and he's been leaning 366 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: out his window a lot, his driver window. Oh. Now 367 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: he's trying to back his pick up into the police 368 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: car again. He actually is trying to. There's a whole 369 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: chain of police cars behind him. So he's so stupid. 370 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: It looks like he just took another hit of something. Yeah, 371 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: I mean, says. He keeps sticking his head out and 372 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: looking behind him. He can see there's a whole chain 373 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: of police vehicles going up the block, so there's no 374 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: way he's going to back out and push those away. 375 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: And last time he tried, he had his wheels spinning 376 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: so hard there was huge clouds of smoke coming out 377 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: from under the car, which is only going to lead 378 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: to him blowing up his truck very soon. And he's 379 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: got at least a half a dozen officers with their 380 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: guns trained on him. Here comes another group of officers 381 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: from the passenger side. Now they're holding the security shield 382 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: and they're opening up the passenger door. And now they 383 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: just thrown something on the ground. Heat He just threw 384 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: something out the window. Looked like a gun or something 385 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: small and dark. Now what did they throw on the 386 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: ground there? I can't tell. Hopefully they're going to zoom in. Yeah, 387 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: they've been shooting like pepper balls at him and and 388 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: other non lethal weapons. Yeah, I'm surprised they don't have 389 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: a dog going there. But you know what I mean. 390 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: I guess in a way it's good because he's just 391 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: going to close his window and then the dog would 392 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: have to go shatter through the window and get hurt. Well, 393 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: now he's he's leaning out the window again, and he's 394 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: he's like a fat slob guy, and he's keeps putting 395 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: his dirty T shirt. He's wearing a gray T shirt 396 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: up to his nose. I guess like his eyes. Nose 397 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 1: might be tearing from the pepper gash. Now you can 398 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: see the belly, you see, Yes, you can see the 399 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: belly hanging out. Yes, very lovely. I know that you 400 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: like that guy. That's a good luck. That's the sign 401 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: of a winner. You know he's going places. There you go, 402 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: there it is again. Yeah, he keeps flashing the belly 403 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: at people because he's got nothing else to wipe, wipe 404 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: his eyes from the pepper spray. So he's leaning out 405 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: out looking for oxygen. Cops still have their guns trained 406 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: on him from across the street, and uh if he would, uh, well, 407 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: he must be really high because if he should realize that, 408 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: it's besides, you know, he hasn't done anything that bad 409 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: yet in a gascon. To let him out in a 410 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: week or two, there's no reason to run up a 411 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: long string of felonies here is he's They fired tear 412 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: gas at him and pepper balls. Yes, yeah, so he's hurting, 413 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: but it's not stopping him. I mean, he's got to 414 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: give him credit. Man, he's not given up easily. I 415 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: like guys who have no hope at all. But they're 416 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: they're not going to surrender, and he's shouting at them 417 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: and he's driven. Yeah, he's is that the belly's still 418 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: hanging out there? Yeah, well, now it's back. He's back 419 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: to sitting inside with the full down. Maybe the cops 420 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: yelled at it and now they're spraying. The cops are 421 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: going in their spraying. They just sprayed something in the 422 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: back of the truck. Can the gas until he passes out? Well, 423 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean he does have the window open though, Yeah, 424 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what a useful life. Huh, how much 425 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: money are we spending on this? I was thinking that 426 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: just get out already. We're we're all working right now, 427 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: and I got to pay the taxes, so we got 428 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: to have you know, twenty cops the bell again. Yeah, 429 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: there's the belly. Yeah, that's a that's a that's a 430 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: full belly. There. He hasn't missed a meal in a while, 431 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: and he's smoking something. He's leaning out and smoking something 432 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: while he's trying to get air from the pepper spray. 433 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: Now now they're Channel seven is trying to enlarge whatever 434 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: the cops through on the passenger side of the car. Oh. 435 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: Channel seven is saying that it's a strike, it's a 436 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: spike strip. Oh, I see, So that if he does 437 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: somehow back out again, yeah, it's gonna pop those tires. Yeah, 438 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: So he has no options here. He's just look, he's 439 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: just hanging out smoking. Yeah, he's got all the time, 440 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, in the world. He's gonna get hungry though, 441 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: unless he packed the lunch with him for this, he 442 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: might start eating a sandwich in between toads. I mean, 443 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: did he it was a reckless driving? You? Why and 444 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: why they think, yeah, I'd go with that. But is 445 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: he um? Is that his business truck there? It would 446 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: you would think, I don't know what? Is he a 447 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: landscape or I don't know he hals tree stumps around 448 00:24:51,720 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: for a living. Yeah, we don't have very much information. Well, 449 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: he's now ducked back inside. I see another puff of smoke. 450 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: There's really got the vape going, and he's constantly leaning out. 451 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: Seems like occasionally he's shouting at the cops, right, because 452 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: it's the cops causing you these problems, right, Yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's. 453 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: He's continuing to smoke or eat something. I don't know. Yeah, 454 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: all right, more coming up. We've got a lot of 455 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: head you're listening to John and Ken on demand from 456 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: kf I am sixty. Ken is away today and we've 457 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: been watching a standoff in Compton on West Poplar Street. 458 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: A guy in a white pickup truck with a collection 459 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: of steep tree stumps on his flatbed and he's been 460 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: inhaling something from a balloon and inhaling something I guess 461 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: from a vape pen or a bomb, and the police 462 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: have been fired all kinds of toxic gas at him. 463 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: Pepper balls and tear gas, and they threw spike strips 464 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: under his vehicle. He took him on a chase where 465 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: they executed the pit maneuver twice and spun them around 466 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: and booth times. He jumped over the median and kept 467 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: going in the other direction. And now he's got a 468 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: lot of police with the guns trained at him and 469 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: cop cars behind him, backed up down the block, and 470 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: he's at a dead end facing the chain length fence 471 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: overlooking the Cement River in Compton. So nothing's happening right now, 472 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: newsome as you may have heard. Yeah, he had run 473 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: off to let's say, what was the chain of events. 474 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: He had declared a state of emergency for the San 475 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Bernardino Mountains among other places, for the big snowstorm, and 476 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: then he fled. He went to Cabo, and while he 477 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: was laying on the beach in Cabo, two things happened. 478 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: He caught COVID and about a dozen people die in 479 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: the San Bernardino Mountains in the area from a crest 480 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: line up to Big Bear. Some of them may have died, 481 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: it's hard to tell because they couldn't get any assistance. 482 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: Roads weren't plowed for two weeks in a lot of neighborhoods, 483 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: and some of these people were very old and they 484 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: were sick. And I mean, I don't know what the 485 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: death rate is in that region, but twelve just seems 486 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: like a lot. News picked up COVID second time he's 487 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: had it, Isn't it ironic? Mister lockdown mister put thousands 488 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: of businesses out of business, Mister mask mister closed the schools. 489 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: He's on his second round of COVID, so he's working 490 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: remotely and he is self isolating for at least five days. 491 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: And although he was in a news conference today via 492 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: zoom um, he had just rescinded the state of emergency. 493 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: Mind you, he rescinds the state of emergency because the 494 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: COVID levels are so low here and he goes off 495 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: to Mexico and catches it. What if he goes to 496 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: the same place you go to down in Cabbo. I 497 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: wonder if it was the same resort. That was my 498 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: first thought. I almost texted it to the group chat. 499 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: You both may have caught the virus from the sure 500 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: yeah right, and then the symptoms came out in Cabo, 501 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: but you know, maybe not. Yeah, well he's here, who 502 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: knows how many people he spread it to uh San 503 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: Bernardino County death situation though there, I mean, there's a 504 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: couple of really awful stories here and um not like 505 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: the county is claiming that there's only one death that 506 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: they can connect directly to the storm, and that was 507 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: an accident, ethic accident, And their spokesperson says Mara Rodriguez says, 508 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: we can only confirm one the preliminary information and the 509 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: other deaths does not indicate they are weather related, but 510 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: those investigations are ongoing. But she wouldn't talk about the 511 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: details of the other deaths so outsiders could see whether 512 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: there's a connection or not. It just makes a proclamation 513 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: and she goes and hides. Mountain residents spoke to the 514 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: La Times and they said, well, we found our neighbors 515 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: and friends dead in their homes and because the roads 516 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: were blocked, they had no heat, no cell service, no food. 517 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: If it didn't outright cause the deaths, it's certainly contributed 518 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: to it. And there was one woman here who said 519 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: her name is Michelle Hake, and her sister has been 520 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: snowed in for days alone in Big Bear. And I 521 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: don't think people know how dire it is right now, said, Hey, 522 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: we're trying to find people like my sister, people in 523 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: their homes and their life is hanging in the balance. 524 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: Another woman, Laura Johnson, went to the Big Bear Lakes 525 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: City Council meeting and during the public comments, she said 526 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: a friend who lived in the area died during the 527 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: storms because their home could not be accessed by a 528 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: dialysis provider. They wouldn't allow the driver to come up 529 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: and pick up my friend who needed dialysis three days 530 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: out of the week, and then he passed passed away. Now, 531 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: if that's true, and this is the kind of thing 532 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: that ought to be investigated, because was it yesterday or 533 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: the day before? Blake trolley had two days ago Blake 534 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: Charlie had an interview with a woman who'd left her 535 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: husband behind. They were out of food. She went down 536 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: to the grocery store down the hill, was trying to 537 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: get back up and they wouldn't let her go. Now 538 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: the road had been cleared one lane. All she had 539 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: to do is be allowed to go home the way 540 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: she came, and they wouldn't let her. And she was 541 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: telling Blake that her husband's sitting at home sharing the 542 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: cat food with the cat and you try to get 543 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: an answer is like, well, if there's a path to 544 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: go down, why can't you let her go up? Especially 545 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: I think her husband's seventy four years old and trying 546 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: to fight the cat for the last for the last 547 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: morsel there and Hake Michelle Hay says, the level of 548 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: loss I cannot convey just how devastating it's been. Another 549 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: woman in Crestline, in the Skyland community. Her name's Raya 550 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: Francis Tetley has a neighbor who's ninety three, Dolly Avanati. 551 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: She was found dead Monday, and she her friend thinks 552 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: a week without power, stuck in her cold house alone 553 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: behind mounds of snow might be what killed her. They 554 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: had been delivering food and checking in on the woman, 555 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: but then she just didn't answer her door. She didn't 556 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: have heat. I think she froze to death in the house, 557 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: said Tetley. Soon after Avanadi's body was found, their street 558 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: was finally plowed because emergency officials needed to show up 559 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: to carry out the body, so they didn't. They didn't 560 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: plow the street until she died and they had to 561 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: carry her off. There's a lot of elderly people. There's 562 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: a community called Cedar Pines Park, And now the county 563 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: officials are saying, yes, we didn't respond. Well, here had 564 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: no idea it was going to be this bad. We 565 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: don't have the snow plows, we don't have the equipment, 566 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: we don't have the personnel. And how do you plan 567 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: for something that's never happened before in anybody's lifetime, Because 568 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: you know they're never going to spend the money on 569 00:32:54,200 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: this kind of equipment when it's a good possible you'll 570 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: never need it. It makes me wonder what they're gonna 571 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: do now because they may never need it again. So 572 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: a tough situation up there in San Bernardino Mountains. Mark 573 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: coming up, Oh, right after two o'clock. We've got and 574 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: we've got Alex Stone and two is that the deal? 575 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Alex Stone coming up right after 576 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: two o'clock, and he's covering the weather as well, because 577 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: there's going to be lots of rain and some places 578 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: high in the high elevation some snow coming up on 579 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: the weekend. So Alex's next John and Ken show, Debor 580 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: Mark has the news live in the twenty four hour 581 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: cafin newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John and 582 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: Ken Show. 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