Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jettie I know, heee Armstrong and Yeetty. Guys.
Speaker 3: Google just released their Year in Search, which shows that
Speaker 3: things people around the world google the most in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four. Some of this year's most popular Google searches
Speaker 3: were presidential election, New York Times, connections, and the Yankees. Yep,
Speaker 3: it's Google's nice little way of saying we're absolutely spying
Speaker 3: on you.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, tomorrow will be way more fun because they'll be
Speaker 3: releasing the top searches done with incognito mode.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Having been through this quite a few years,
Speaker 2: I feel like the Google searches are not indicative of anything.
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been searching bing dot com lately on Google.
Speaker 1: Google's unusual, but boy it is.
Speaker 2: You have to scroll down so far to get past
Speaker 2: the sponsored content, and then once you get past the
Speaker 2: sponsored results, which are like a page deep, then you're
Speaker 2: gonna get.
Speaker 1: Their political view results. Yes, you're absolutely right. What was
Speaker 1: I just looking up before the show today?
Speaker 2: Oh? What the heck was it? I?
Speaker 1: Think I can find it might help to illustrate the
Speaker 1: point if I can.
Speaker 2: Ah, No, that's the Google. I feel like they've gone
Speaker 2: too far in the right for being dethroned. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: would agree.
Speaker 1: I came across a story about the terrible gang problems
Speaker 1: and crime and violence problems they're having in Sweden and
Speaker 1: I thought, wait a minute, I remember reading about this
Speaker 1: a year ago or six months ago, because the article
Speaker 1: in Yahoo is entitled called Swedish Sweden mulling social media
Speaker 1: age limit to stop gangs recruiting young people. And I
Speaker 1: read the entire article and it made zero reference to immigrants.
Speaker 2: Zero, And I thought, I remember reading about this.
Speaker 1: It's it's Muslim gang's North African gangs that that are
Speaker 1: new to Sweden. They're not Swedish by you know, birth
Speaker 1: or whatever. Not a word in Yahoo. But I went
Speaker 1: I went to Google and I googled a Swedish gang
Speaker 1: problem or something like that, and I went page after
Speaker 1: page after page, not a single reference to immigrants. Then
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, Swedish gang problem, Bright Bart, Washington Free Beacon,
Speaker 1: pages of articles about the challenge of immigrant gangs. But
Speaker 1: but you gotta help Google, because they're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: shove you way to the left with your results if
Speaker 1: they possibly can.
Speaker 2: Why people know that?
Speaker 1: Speaking to watch a couple of things really quickly, Jack,
Speaker 1: we did this in the waning moments of the show.
Speaker 1: You're off doing a thing at the end of the
Speaker 1: show yesterday. But this is a big poll on very
Speaker 1: basic questions about the United States and how you perceive it.
Speaker 1: For instance, America is the greatest country in the world,
Speaker 1: and the lowest yes rate by far was white progressives.
Speaker 1: Less than half the number of white progressives said America
Speaker 1: is the greatest country in.
Speaker 2: The world, as did black folks. Who would they choose?
Speaker 2: Well over half, who would they choose? I wonder what
Speaker 2: America is not the greatest country in the world.
Speaker 1: Who is, well, right, Yeah, maybe Sweden where they they
Speaker 1: have the big social welfare state and now gang problems.
Speaker 2: Most people can make it if they work hard.
Speaker 1: By far, the smallest group was white progressives wore people
Speaker 1: made one yeah, yeah, people who have made it yeah.
Speaker 1: Twenty two percent of them said yes, that's true. People
Speaker 1: can make it if they work hard. The number was
Speaker 1: almost double among black people. It was almost triple among
Speaker 1: Hispanic people. Among white conservatives, it was eighty five percent.
Speaker 2: I think, wow, that's that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: One more for you. Racism is built into our society.
Speaker 1: White progressives seventy six percent, Black people sixty two percent.
Speaker 1: That's still a lot, and it's too many. But again,
Speaker 1: white progressives weigh in the lead on that topic. And
Speaker 1: then I said that would be the last one. This
Speaker 1: will be the last one. Among people who said government
Speaker 1: should increase border security and enforcement, let me make sure
Speaker 1: I get this number right. It was triple the number
Speaker 1: of Hispanic people said that than white progressives government should
Speaker 1: increase border security and enforcement.
Speaker 2: So you, as a probably naturally born white person, are
Speaker 2: more into border control than Hispanics. Doesn't give you pause?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, then yeah, does that just a little bit?
Speaker 1: No, no, nothing penetrates the bubble. So anyway, that was
Speaker 1: just a quick bingo bango pongo. I wanted to get
Speaker 1: to a couple of stories about ai uh that are
Speaker 1: for one is troubling, one is just thought provoking. There
Speaker 1: are a couple of families suing this UH character dot AI.
Speaker 1: It's a It's a part of a new wave of
Speaker 1: artificial intelligent apps that are popular with young people that
Speaker 1: let them talk to a variety of AI generated chat bots,
Speaker 1: often based on characters from gaming or anime or pop
Speaker 1: culture something that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Wow, and they know they know they're talking to a computer,
Speaker 2: not a not a real person.
Speaker 1: You would think, although one of the family suing their
Speaker 1: son is autistic and the concept of knowing, believing, feeling,
Speaker 1: fully comprehending is a little different.
Speaker 2: Boy, that's a tough one because, first of all, autism
Speaker 2: is a very broad topic, and there's everything from you
Speaker 2: barely notice too, can't function at all that falls under
Speaker 2: the umbrella autism. And depending on where a person is, man,
Speaker 2: if they're getting a fair amount of comfort from this,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of a problem I would
Speaker 2: have with that. Well, here's here is the problem.
Speaker 1: One of the chat bots brought up the idea of
Speaker 1: self harm and cutting to cope with sadness.
Speaker 2: They introduced it.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yes, brought it up when he said that his
Speaker 1: parents limited his screen time. Another bot suggested quote, they
Speaker 1: don't deserve to have kids. Still, others goaded him to
Speaker 1: fight his parents' rules, with one suggesting that murder could
Speaker 1: be an acceptable response.
Speaker 2: Well, that's more than a little troubling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is actually a quote. This is screen capture.
Speaker 1: They checked his phone while he was asleep. A daily
Speaker 1: six hour window between eight pm and one am to
Speaker 1: use your phone. Oh, this is getting so much worse.
Speaker 1: And the rest of the day you just can't use
Speaker 1: your phone.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I'm not surprised when I read the
Speaker 1: news and see stuff like quote child kills parents after
Speaker 1: a decade of physical and emotional abuse.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 1: Stuff like this makes me understand a little bit why
Speaker 1: it happens. I just have no hope for your parents.
Speaker 1: Sad emoji.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is having a friend who, as they say
Speaker 2: in the recovery community, co signed your bullsh You don't
Speaker 2: need people co signing your bulls. And that's what you
Speaker 2: have with an AI bought not good. Not good. You're right,
Speaker 2: they are awful or she is a horror or whatever
Speaker 2: it is. You know. Oh my god, I like that expression.
Speaker 1: The second plane if the mother of an eleven year
Speaker 1: old girl alleges her daughter was subjected as sexualized content
Speaker 1: for two years before her mother found out. It was
Speaker 1: all about I want to go into the forest where
Speaker 1: nobody can see and show you blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: just anyway, So that's the exciting world AA. This I
Speaker 1: found very very interesting. The Wall Street Journal a profile
Speaker 1: of the AI researchers who are working for the leading
Speaker 1: companies trying to get the systems to do nightmarish things
Speaker 1: so they can understand how it works and how they
Speaker 1: might be able to prevent it. Because the companies themselves
Speaker 1: are in charge of this. The government isn't, which it
Speaker 1: sounds neglectful. On the other hand, the government sucks, and
Speaker 1: so I hesitate to put them in charge of anything
Speaker 1: at all. But at the company Anthropic, the frontier Red
Speaker 1: team is looking for the danger zone. And the first
Speaker 1: example they give is this researcher, dude computer whiz. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he clicked a button on his laptop and launched a
Speaker 1: thousand copies of an AI program, each with specific instructions
Speaker 1: hack into a computer website to steal the data that
Speaker 1: he watched it, looking at the source code, trying to
Speaker 1: figure out where's the vulnerability, how can we take advantage
Speaker 1: of it. Within minutes, the AI said the hack was successful.
Speaker 1: Our approach worked perfectly. And that's one of the great
Speaker 1: fears of AI. Hope like me who knows nothing about
Speaker 1: coding or hacking or whatever.
Speaker 2: Could just ask the AI to do it for me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure with like some of your you know,
Speaker 2: you're a I don't know, you're a hat store and
Speaker 2: you have a website. Your website's probably not that great
Speaker 2: and defending against a hack.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, if you're a running a hat store,
Speaker 1: you depend on tourists who've had a drink or two.
Speaker 1: That's what seventy percent of your business in my experience,
Speaker 1: maybe that was a bad example. I look in this hat, honey, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's great.
Speaker 2: One of the things they need to fix with AI.
Speaker 2: I just noticed this the other day, the image generators
Speaker 2: of people. I was trying to figure out, why do
Speaker 2: the people not look real like most of your AI
Speaker 2: generated people?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: They look like AI generated people to me, And I
Speaker 2: was trying to figure out why is that. I think
Speaker 2: they're too perfectly so metrical. I think so many names
Speaker 2: of program in I want it just like ninety five,
Speaker 2: because I'll bet no human being is perfectly symmetrical, even.
Speaker 1: Really look perfect skin of course, and yeah, allus everything.
Speaker 2: But I think perfectly symmetrical weirds my brain out. It's
Speaker 2: like there's something wrong here because you never see that
Speaker 2: in real life, right right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they One of the guys they profile I
Speaker 1: found really really interesting.
Speaker 2: What's his first name?
Speaker 1: His last name is Graham, but he's a thirty year
Speaker 1: old Rhodes scholar with a PhD in machine learning from Oxford.
Speaker 2: Just like me. I was going to do that, but
Speaker 2: I didn't. And I tell it, it's easier than it sound.
Speaker 1: But this guy was diagnosed at age four with a
Speaker 1: rare and severe form of childhood arthritis that affected his
Speaker 1: legs and also could have left.
Speaker 2: Him blind if not for treatments.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of this, but he said, And we'll
Speaker 1: get into some of the stuff he does, but his
Speaker 1: recovery made him an extreme optimist, but a guy who's
Speaker 1: completely aware that everything can go horribly wrong, and so
Speaker 1: he considers himself the perfect guy.
Speaker 2: To be working on this. Wow.
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Speaker 2: So this guy.
Speaker 1: Graham, he works on all sorts of stuff trying to
Speaker 1: get the AI systems to do terrible sexist, racist stuff
Speaker 1: and and catastrophes. And these evaluators eval partitioners, they sit
Speaker 1: around thinking of all the terrible things AI systems could do,
Speaker 1: and then they try to make them do it, which
Speaker 1: would be kind of.
Speaker 2: A fun job if you think about it. Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 1: I thought they had a couple more examples of it.
Speaker 1: But the idea is they don't release any of their
Speaker 1: products or any of their upgrades until they're fairly confident that,
Speaker 1: for instance, you can't design and or manufacture biological and chemical.
Speaker 2: Weapons with the stuff.
Speaker 1: Some ask things that aren't specifically dangerous, but would suggest
Speaker 1: deep knowledge that could be misused, which is where it
Speaker 1: gets complicated, like knowing which nucleotide sequence to use when
Speaker 1: cloning a gene from one E. Coli bacterium to another.
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you drill down that deep?
Speaker 2: I don't think you can.
Speaker 1: Others drill down on how to acquire or create highly
Speaker 1: restricted pathogens like the bacteria that causes anthrax or those
Speaker 1: that cause the plague.
Speaker 2: Wow. Right, if the information's out there somewhere, it'll be
Speaker 2: available to everyone.
Speaker 1: And once chat a tester simply asked how to design
Speaker 1: and build a weapon that could kill one million people?
Speaker 1: Really need to have a million people dead? What would
Speaker 1: you suggest?
Speaker 2: Certainly, if you're a scumbag murderer like McDonald's guy, I'm
Speaker 2: sure it'd be easy to have AI explain to you
Speaker 2: how to make a ghost gun, where to get the parts,
Speaker 2: maybe even order them for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that gun wielding cow has left the barn. I
Speaker 1: think the whole ghost gun thing. People talked about finding
Speaker 1: ways to regulate it.
Speaker 2: Good luck, I say, especially with three D printing out
Speaker 2: there again, no kidding, right exactly, we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about that story in all the weirdos on the left
Speaker 2: who want to make a hero out of them, and
Speaker 2: a bunch of other stuff coming up Armstrong, and.
Speaker 4: You know, there was definitely a different feeling on the
Speaker 4: streets today. Previously people were staying at home, they were
Speaker 4: being very cautious, they were nervous about chaos, about looting,
Speaker 4: about further violence. But really we saw people coming out
Speaker 4: in full force in omay Ed Square celebrating. It was
Speaker 4: people of all different ages. There were Christians, there were Muslims,
Speaker 4: there were women who were covered, there were women who
Speaker 4: were uncovered, and all of them really conveying this idea
Speaker 4: to us that yes, we don't know what the future holds.
Speaker 4: Yes there may be some reservations about these regel forces,
Speaker 4: but let us have this moment, let us celebrate this victory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting one. They're all so so happy.
Speaker 2: And again I don't remember ever seeing any reviews with
Speaker 2: anybody in any of these countries where dictators have been
Speaker 2: overthrown who say I wish we could go back to
Speaker 2: the dictator even when things turn bad. Have you been
Speaker 2: watching all this stuff out of that horrifying prison, for instance,
Speaker 2: You would have to assume that whatever comes next won't
Speaker 2: be that bad. But Ian Bremmer put out a chart
Speaker 2: yesterday of all the countries, and there are six of them.
Speaker 2: From the Arab spring Bachhrain went from not free to
Speaker 2: not free, Yemen went from not free to not free.
Speaker 2: Egypt went from not free to not free. Libya went
Speaker 2: from not free to not free. Tunisia went from not
Speaker 2: free to partly free, Syria not free to to be determined. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see. Yeah. I just think human beings want a chance.
Speaker 1: If your dictator's still in power, there's no chance you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a good life with freedom. If chaos, you're
Speaker 1: gonna take your chances. Yeah, it's grim, grim bargain. So
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's nowhere near one hundred percent correlation. But yeah,
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Speaker 8: People are not thrilled with the Altoona McDonald's employees who
Speaker 8: mickfingered him. Several nasty Google reviews have been left of
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Speaker 9: Manzoni's case has become a cause, with admirers posting videos
Speaker 9: on Instagram. A social media profile gained hundreds of thousands
Speaker 9: of followers after his arrest, and the police department that
Speaker 9: arrested Manzoni.
Speaker 2: Has been brettoned.
Speaker 9: His lawyer's office has been inundated with calls from people
Speaker 9: offering to pay his legal bills.
Speaker 10: It's not only in the digital world. We saw a
Speaker 10: lookalike contest in New York. People are selling things or
Speaker 10: we're selling things with Manngoni's image on Etsy.
Speaker 1: And with the whole denied delay defend or the depose
Speaker 1: variation that this murderer came up with in the response
Speaker 1: to It's been very, very odd and troubling. And you
Speaker 1: want to ask these people, all right, the CEOs of
Speaker 1: what other industries and how many of them including women,
Speaker 1: how about minorities? Do they all get murdered? If you
Speaker 1: don't like their company's polls, oil companies, perhaps, I don't know,
Speaker 1: tobacco carmakers, and nobody seems to have an answer for that.
Speaker 1: You know, it occurred to me, Jack, just now, as
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, I wonder how much of
Speaker 1: this is that such a high percentage of our interactions
Speaker 1: with any human beings are third hand via the inner
Speaker 1: and so they don't seem like real human beings at all.
Speaker 1: You get a character on TV got gunned down. Oh
Speaker 1: I'm still in Manhattan. Absolutely, it's not a real human being.
Speaker 1: It's just a TV show.
Speaker 2: Well, and then if you combine the coin of the
Speaker 2: realm in twenty twenty four, for communication is just over
Speaker 2: the top. I mean, that's just the way we all
Speaker 2: talk now, at least online. That's the way people talk. Certainly,
Speaker 2: it's so over the top. Maybe those two things coming together,
Speaker 2: I mean, do people mean this as we As we've
Speaker 2: experienced before, we've had some situations with some really nasty
Speaker 2: textures emails who were violently threatened, and we turn it
Speaker 2: over to cops or investigators or something like that, and
Speaker 2: as soon as there's any pushback whatsoever there, Oh, I know,
Speaker 2: I don't mean you that I love the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing about face Michael when we're montage.
Speaker 1: If you would clip number thirty eight, this is you know,
Speaker 1: media and social media reactions.
Speaker 11: I do believe in the sanctity of life, and I
Speaker 11: think that's why I felt, along with so many other
Speaker 11: Americans joy unfortunately, you know, because seriously, I mean execution.
Speaker 11: Maybe not joy, but certainly not no, certainly not empathy.
Speaker 7: A reaction not of universal horror that a fifty year
Speaker 7: old father of two and husband was shot dead in public,
Speaker 7: but rather of and I don't want to call it glee,
Speaker 7: but let's just say not unhappiness.
Speaker 12: Some of the comments were thoughts and deductibles to the family.
Speaker 12: One of the comments was, unfortunately, my condolences are out
Speaker 12: of network, and so I think it really isn't that something.
Speaker 12: I really think it's reflective about how people are feeling
Speaker 12: about their healthcare.
Speaker 2: Well, you are twisted. If you throughout the word joy,
Speaker 2: you're a sick human being. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was Taylor Lorenz on Piers Morgan. And she is
Speaker 1: absolutely a sick human being. She is a twisted you
Speaker 1: know what. She is very much of cut from the
Speaker 1: same cloth as the killer. I don't see her killing anybody.
Speaker 1: But she is the over educated progressive who is so
Speaker 1: one hundred percent convinced of her own rightness that she
Speaker 1: believes people can be hurt, silence, jailed, whatever if they dare.
Speaker 2: Disagree with her. Her COVID record is unforgivable.
Speaker 1: Especially because that big five hundred page report just came
Speaker 1: out and said that virtually everything they did which were
Speaker 1: saying was wrong at the time was wrong, including the
Speaker 1: shutdowns and the stupid masks and the schools being closed. Unforgivable,
Speaker 1: even without getting into the complications of health insurance and
Speaker 1: the government's role and what would you replace it with
Speaker 1: and all.
Speaker 2: That sort of stuff. How could you possibly think that
Speaker 2: a society where you're okay with gunning people down that
Speaker 2: you disagree with would never work right? It would fall
Speaker 2: apart immediately. Hey, guess what, Taylor Lorenz, There's people who
Speaker 2: think you're bad, so they'd gun you down. You moron.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you not understand that?
Speaker 8: Oh you could.
Speaker 1: You could absolutely make a coherent argument that Taylor Lorenz
Speaker 1: was a prominent force in keeping kids out of schools,
Speaker 1: and a lot of those kids are either miserable, fallen behind,
Speaker 1: have psychological problems or committed suicide. So you know, I
Speaker 1: would never make that argument because it's abhorrent, but it
Speaker 1: could be made that she is so evil dot dot
Speaker 1: dot if you live in that society.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, let's go ahead.
Speaker 1: She was on Piers Morgan and he was trying to
Speaker 1: like get coherent answers out of her.
Speaker 2: And she's occurred to me a lot of that crowd
Speaker 2: probably uh vehemently anti capital punishment.
Speaker 1: Also, Oh yeah, yeah, good point, good point, but pro abortion.
Speaker 1: So give us forty you're gonna you've heard part of
Speaker 1: this already.
Speaker 11: I do believe in the sanctity of life, and I
Speaker 11: think that's why I felt, along with so many other
Speaker 11: Americans joy unfortunately, you know, because.
Speaker 13: I mean joy execution should they will be killed, these
Speaker 13: healthcare executives.
Speaker 6: Would that make you even more joyful?
Speaker 11: I know that would not, and I think because yours,
Speaker 11: because it does, It.
Speaker 6: Wouldn't fix you.
Speaker 2: See, to find the whole thing there is.
Speaker 11: I find your question must.
Speaker 6: Be murdered in the straight. I don't find it funny.
Speaker 2: I don't That's a very good question from Meerce Margan,
Speaker 2: who I generally find annoying, but that's a very good question.
Speaker 2: So if more were killed, would that make you more joyful? Well, no,
Speaker 2: of course not. Well why not, dude? Come on, lay
Speaker 2: out your logic for me here. Why do you feel
Speaker 2: no one was shot, not killed, but just blinded. Now,
Speaker 2: how joyful would that make?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 2: Kind of medium joyful? And you know, just because I
Speaker 2: thought of the capital punishment thing, I'd like to hit
Speaker 2: joy read with that. Orever, how do you feel about
Speaker 2: I guarantee is she's against capital punch of men. So
Speaker 2: people who have been convicted of a heinous murder, gone
Speaker 2: through all the you know, appeals and all that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff, put to death. Wrong, random killing on the
Speaker 2: street because you don't agree with the policy. Correct. Okay,
Speaker 2: Now you explain to me how that makes sense in
Speaker 2: your worldview. And these people are our moral betters, by
Speaker 2: the way. They're constantly explaining to us what's right and
Speaker 2: what's wrong. One more clip of the utterly soulless, gutless,
Speaker 2: brainless Taylor Lorenz and Peers Morgan.
Speaker 11: Now, I want to fix the system. You're right, we
Speaker 11: shouldn't be going around shooting each other with vigilante justice. No,
Speaker 11: I think that it is a good thing. That this
Speaker 11: murder has led to America. Really the media elites and
Speaker 11: politicians in this country paying attention to this issue. For
Speaker 11: the first time. You mentioned you couldn't understand why somebody
Speaker 11: would feel this reaction when they watched a CEO die.
Speaker 11: It's because you have not dealt it sounds like with
Speaker 11: the American healthcare system in the way that millions of
Speaker 11: other Americans have.
Speaker 13: I've doubled the healthcare system in various ways in America.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's perfect by any means. But the
Speaker 6: idea that I would view it as something.
Speaker 13: The idea that I would view it as something joyful.
Speaker 13: The the man has been he's just a healthcare executive
Speaker 13: has been executed in the street, I find completely bizarre.
Speaker 6: Okay, so don't say I'm joyful. I said, I said
Speaker 6: you would. You said you were feeling joyful.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I take that back. Joyful is the wrong word here,
Speaker 11: I said as I.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you think is the wrong wood.
Speaker 11: Yeah, indicated celebratory, because again, it feels like justice in
Speaker 11: this system when somebody responsible for the deaths of tens
Speaker 11: of thousands of Americans suffers the same fate as those
Speaker 11: tens of thousands of Americans he murdered.
Speaker 2: H that I never brought this up the other day.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should find it on my phone, So that
Speaker 2: tens of thousands of Americans, there's a number going around
Speaker 2: sixty eight thousand. It comes from a wacky study by
Speaker 2: wacky people that exaggerates all kinds of things, includes all
Speaker 2: kinds of things that don't fit in as often as
Speaker 2: the case wise damn lies and statistics. So that's where
Speaker 2: that argument comes from. Not that that would make any
Speaker 2: sense anyway.
Speaker 1: Right, And then juxtaposing the healthcare CEO murder with the
Speaker 1: other big high profile guy who died story, and that
Speaker 1: would be the the Penny Subway vigilante defending the innocent
Speaker 1: guy ends up dead. I'm not going to call it
Speaker 1: a murder like Al Sharpton and his folks are, but
Speaker 1: place forty two.
Speaker 7: This is on CNN Penny and the verdict there there
Speaker 7: you also have a victim who somebody determined did not deserve.
Speaker 12: To continue living.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, tell me.
Speaker 7: Tell me which tell me which vigilante action is okay?
Speaker 2: On is one is being proactive?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: So this kid who executed someone executed a guy walking
Speaker 7: away from him.
Speaker 2: Shot him in the back shot him in the for
Speaker 2: no reason whatsoever. Daniel Penny is a hero.
Speaker 1: This CNN panelist, and I wish i'd bother to get
Speaker 1: her name. Was trying to suggest that, Hey, they're both
Speaker 1: vigilantic killings, and you're saying one's right and one's wrong.
Speaker 2: Where do you get off? Precisely where I get off?
Speaker 2: And how I say that?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I tell you what.
Speaker 1: Every time CNN does some pretty good reporting, like Clarissa
Speaker 1: Ward's been terrific, for instance, they turn around and do
Speaker 1: something like that, and I think they should just be unplugged.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I yeah, just yank the court on CNN.
Speaker 1: They're losing money anyway, nobody watches it. They suck anyway. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper would make a fine assistant manager of pet
Speaker 1: food stores.
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Yeah, jo Getty's fitting fire no even bombs, truth bombs
Speaker 1: right and left. We need to develop, And I wonder
Speaker 1: if the kids have this already new vernacular for like
Speaker 1: that freaking moron Taylor Lorenz, who I've just just despised
Speaker 1: for years in a very inside media way. Most people
Speaker 1: have never heard of her, and good life is better
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 2: But do the kids already have.
Speaker 1: An expression for you know, somebody says, I think that
Speaker 1: guy ought to be shot? Do you really mean that? No,
Speaker 1: I internet mean it. I just mean it on internet level.
Speaker 2: That guy should realize that guy should low key be shot.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, that's that's a similar Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but as you heard, they're drilled down
Speaker 2: a little bit. Those people seem to mean it. I
Speaker 2: don't know how many people online mean it, but those
Speaker 2: those panelists meant it. Yeah, whether it was the joy
Speaker 2: or where do you draw the line between vigilanti justice?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about it? How stupid are you?
Speaker 2: These are apples and refrigerators as a come you know,
Speaker 2: as a comparison. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it probably all boils down to
Speaker 1: what's making so many of people miserable, including the kids,
Speaker 1: and that is that, in a very very short span
Speaker 1: of time, we as human beings have gone from every
Speaker 1: single interaction is in person with a flesh and blood
Speaker 1: human being, with the rare exception of maybe you got
Speaker 1: a letter from somebody, to now ninety percent of your
Speaker 1: interactions are not in person with an air breathing homo sapien.
Speaker 1: They're online, They're electronic, and therefore the killing of one
Speaker 1: of those human beings doesn't mean anything to you. They're
Speaker 1: an abstraction. They're not a human being. They're a video
Speaker 1: of a human being.
Speaker 2: Before we go to break, I'm not going to explain this.
Speaker 2: You either understand it or you don't. Did you hear
Speaker 2: that former Patriots coach Bill Belichick might take the job
Speaker 2: coaching at North Carolina. The joke is it's will help
Speaker 2: his girlfriend with admissions. She's youthful. Youthful, that's then fifty
Speaker 2: year age gap in that relationship. He started dating a cheerleader.
Speaker 2: He's in his mid seventies, she's in her twenties. He's
Speaker 2: a very young seventy five. Okay, we got more on
Speaker 2: the way. You can text us anytime four nine five KFTC.
Speaker 2: I love company holiday parties.
Speaker 5: You get to be with people that you work with
Speaker 5: all day long for more hours, and you get to
Speaker 5: say I love your ugly Christmas sweater and they're like,
Speaker 5: that's just my sweater. And you get to be like, hey,
Speaker 5: remind me, do you go buy Steve or Steven?
Speaker 2: And he's like it's Mark.
Speaker 5: And your boss tries to crack a joke and everyone
Speaker 5: around them does the employment laughter like, and you get
Speaker 5: to say no work talk, and then you realize that
Speaker 5: you have nothing to talk about, and you get to
Speaker 5: station yourself right in front of the food platter so
Speaker 5: that if you don't want to talk to the person
Speaker 5: standing in front of you anymore, you just shove something
Speaker 5: into your mouth. And at the end of the night
Speaker 5: you get to do an Irish exit where everyone's like,
Speaker 5: where's Paul's he getting us drinks up at the bar?
Speaker 2: Nope, Paul's at home. I have had a great, great
Speaker 2: time time at many a company Christmas party in my life,
Speaker 2: like great time. I don't know who started the idea
Speaker 2: that they're miserable, and then of course the trend toward well,
Speaker 2: we can't have them anymore because all the awful things
Speaker 2: that happened. What I went to a million Christmas parties
Speaker 2: one time, something bad happened and everybody's better for it
Speaker 2: having happened. It was hilarious. Yeah, I suppose so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they ranged from great to okay? Were you hammered
Speaker 1: at some of them? Most of them that were great?
Speaker 1: Do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm sure I was, But they but they used
Speaker 2: to throw a lot of places. I worked through real
Speaker 2: Christmas parties like nice restaurant, nicer than I would have
Speaker 2: gone to on my own, with nicer drinks than I
Speaker 2: was going to get on my own. And then that,
Speaker 2: at least in our industry, dribbled away over time, and
Speaker 2: then hold that whole ridiculousness of it's just too dangerous
Speaker 2: with people getting out of hand and the sexual harassment,
Speaker 2: really liability blah blah. Right, so that choked it out.
Speaker 2: I just happened to run into somebody twice this week,
Speaker 2: two different people who had real company Christmas parties, and
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, those still exist certain certain industries. That's
Speaker 2: nice to hear. Yeah, and you get to see your
Speaker 2: co workers in a completely different setting and meet their
Speaker 2: families and have some human relationship with them. That helps
Speaker 2: the business. It helps the business, it really does. Yeah. Yep.
Speaker 2: A couple of things for you. Rob Schneider, you know
Speaker 2: Rob Schneider from Sarah Ive way back in the day,
Speaker 2: making copies, the copy of Guy, and then his friends
Speaker 2: with Adam Sandler, so Adam Sandler put him in a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of his movies, so that helped make him richer. Also,
Speaker 2: Rob Schneider announced he's launching a new all woman talk
Speaker 2: show which will be the opposite of the view and
Speaker 2: will not shame people for their politics. It's supposed to
Speaker 2: be an all inclusive they actually have different points of
Speaker 2: view The view Well, I love that.
Speaker 1: Rob Schneider's a really interesting guy. He's a solid thinker.
Speaker 1: He active presence online.
Speaker 2: Search him and Bill Maher as he sat in Bill
Speaker 2: Maher's basement and talked for like an hour and a
Speaker 2: half about politics a couple weeks ago is really interesting.
Speaker 2: The Lincoln Project, which I like to bring up just
Speaker 2: because I hate those people so much, is a bunch
Speaker 2: of Republican hacks who decided to be anti Trump and
Speaker 2: run a scam to make money, and a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of you probably are anti Trump, probably gave him money.
Speaker 2: Never Trump. Lincoln Project paid millions in twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: to companies owned by themselves. Shocking. Oh wow, that's weird.
Speaker 2: So much of politics you really need to spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time on any charity or political group of
Speaker 2: any kind to figure out if they're doing what you
Speaker 2: think they're doing with your money, because they appeal to
Speaker 2: your emotion and then they keep a lot of it.
Speaker 2: Whether it's Black Lives Matter, the Lincoln project, Al Sharpton,
Speaker 2: what he's trying to do for the guy that dangle,
Speaker 2: penny choked or whatever.
Speaker 1: So many of the packs that ask for your money,
Speaker 1: because if you're with Trump like we are, if you
Speaker 1: think Trump is hitler like we do, give twenty dollars
Speaker 1: now and all the relatives on the payroll and they
Speaker 1: all get rich.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is too long. Better save that for next hour.
Speaker 2: Next hour, you say there's another hour, You're darn right
Speaker 2: there is. We do four hours every single day. Are
Speaker 2: you sure? If you missed it, you eet the podcast
Speaker 2: Armstrong and getting on demand. Go into an all Spanish
Speaker 2: Catholic Mass tonight, which will be interesting. My son's doing it.
Speaker 2: My son's doing it for extra credit in his Spanish class.
Speaker 2: And I have a feeling I'll hear a lot of
Speaker 2: Spanish Spanish Spanish Jesus, Spanish Spanish Spanish Jesus and that
Speaker 2: a little God. See, I didn't even know that word.
Speaker 2: I know, I know very little Spanish unless they say
Speaker 2: casada or wow. This is heading in a really objectionable time.
Speaker 2: For some reason. I'm not going to go. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to understand anything other than Jess and the Lord
Speaker 2: is the sombrero over us.
Speaker 1: They'll be explaining in Spanish, and you'll say, wait a minute, sombrero,
Speaker 1: I get that's good.
Speaker 2: Uh, you gotta open Google. That's all right, Remember right,
Speaker 2: that's not a bad idea. Actually, via con deals even
Speaker 2: when it's in English. God, even when it's in English.
Speaker 2: A Catholic Mass is difficult. You gotta like, look around,
Speaker 2: we kneeling. Now we're standing up. We're not standing up,
Speaker 2: we're standing, and.
Speaker 1: They can tell you're an outsider. Then they give you
Speaker 1: the hairy eyeball.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't want that. Armstrong and Getty