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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, get fired up. It's Monday morning and we

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, hey Brian Campbell, one half of

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Speaker 2: your hosting duo today Monday, May nineteenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: That gentleman right there, fresh off the cracking open of

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Speaker 2: a I think Monster.

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Speaker 1: Energy Drink, Monster Ultra Strawberry Dreams.

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Speaker 2: Looks like this. This job is gonna drive me to

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Speaker 2: an early death. No, that can right there, Luke, that

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's right. I think the chronic.

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Speaker 1: It's not really the job. It's just my body failing me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well you know you used to have body

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Speaker 2: for days. Now you're down to hours and minutes left.

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Speaker 2: But hey, we're gonna have a great show for you today.

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Speaker 2: On this side, This episode of Morning Combat is brought

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Speaker 2: to you by DraftKings, and with DraftKings, the crown is

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Speaker 1: Everybody watching, how do we not have a monster or

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Speaker 2: I'll tear it up for forward, up for green liquid.

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Speaker 1: I know you will. What I was gonna say was,

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Speaker 1: How do we not have a talk to our daily

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Speaker 2: Use the show, not a bomb deals. Let's get no

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, hey there you go, right there.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody watching on the DraftKings Network, on

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Speaker 2: Did you put out a very moving, important interview in

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Yeah, but not on it's not on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: it's on my substack. Yeah. Well, I put out a teaser.

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Speaker 1: The real one goes probably live tomorrow, maybe Wednesday, the latest.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna air real soon.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's like a separate daily show special. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, So I guess that's soon.

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Speaker 2: land of Luke Thomas. We got a third member of

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Speaker 2: this fantastic team coming at you today. He's from that

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Speaker 2: long island. His name is Luke. It's Luke no Sea

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, hey you guys call your dad's balls

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Speaker 1: What's on my brother got This is a true thing.

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Speaker 1: Uh? Long on look, another weekend of skipping out on

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Speaker 1: Was there an eighth finish that night? If you know

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Speaker 2: It's a great time. Hey, we do have combat sports

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. I mean it was UFC nub Fast.

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Speaker 2: The odds were so wide in favor of Morales, and

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Speaker 1: But I do think that you cannot keep doing what

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Speaker 1: He's a predator. He's got a good combination of jab

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Speaker 2: I'm still eighteen and oh coming off first round knockouts

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Speaker 2: So Luke separate from how many fights does he have

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Speaker 1: On top of this, a conversation that we.

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Speaker 1: He does, but he reminds me of Francis. I mean,

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Speaker 1: But like if you look at the Polish in someone's

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Speaker 1: This is what I how many times I sound like

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Speaker 2: I did not think we were getting this. I want

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Speaker 2: Or are there levels to this? And as he climbs

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Speaker 4: I just feel like I didn't learn enough about either

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Speaker 4: if Gilbert's done yet. I don't know if he still

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Speaker 2: Though, I like, hell yeah, so many good matchups to

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Speaker 6: And what are the names that you want to call

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Speaker 1: I talked about Ian Garry.

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Speaker 7: That's the fighter that I always wanted to fight, but

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Speaker 7: But I said, you know, the fight that I would

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Speaker 2: Look, he's both a killer and an extreme mama's boy,

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Speaker 2: I want to find out those answers quicker on him

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Speaker 1: I know it's gonna kind of get lost a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to see South American prospects who are doing

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Speaker 2: Out to Argentina with Eileen Perez.

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Speaker 1: Argentina's had a few along the way. Argentina's kind of

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Speaker 2: Topic number three. We're going to break down this division

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Speaker 2: for the future. But let's play one match making game

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Speaker 2: now with Morales, What is the right next fight.

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Speaker 1: For the Leon one? I like, let me pull up

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Speaker 1: if I like any of those fights. I don't let

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Speaker 1: Why not Covington.

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Speaker 4: But it feels too similar to the Gilbert when Kobe

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Speaker 1: what it's done for his career. Look what it's done

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Speaker 1: for his development. It's done fantastic things. Why can't we

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Speaker 1: do that for Michael Morales?

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Speaker 2: He could be a legend killer. I'm not necessarily against that.

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Speaker 2: I just don't want I'm still sick of Colby.

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Speaker 1: Dude. I'm just so freaking all the more reason for

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Speaker 1: this twenty five year old to go in there and

446
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Speaker 1: just done up his dome.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think you can say the same thing about Burns' future,

448
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Speaker 2: And what is there a get well fight with Burns

449
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Speaker 2: coming off of four losses? Holby might be that what.

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Speaker 2: I'd almost rather use Colby for that, But I guess

451
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Speaker 2: either way, you're just using Colby to give somebody else

452
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Speaker 2: a potential run. Let's forget using Gilbert or using Kolby

453
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Speaker 2: gets so let's hear from Gilbert Burns. He did put

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Speaker 2: out a postfight message. This was on social media on

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Speaker 2: the IG thankful for this journey exclamation point. I'm still

456
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Speaker 2: super blessed. Of course, wasn't the outcome I was looking

457
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Speaker 2: forward to, especially for this one. I work extremely hard.

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Speaker 2: Who saw saw But it's the fight game and it's life.

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Speaker 2: Congrats to my opponent there, wishing you and your team

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Speaker 2: all the success. That's it. No sad stories. Grateful for

461
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Speaker 2: this beautiful journey and for all the lessons. God is

462
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Speaker 2: good all the time. All honors, praising glory, give to

463
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Speaker 2: him and win or defeat Luke. He's coming back there,

464
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 2: he said, let's take some time off and let's come back.

465
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Speaker 2: Four straight defeats, all against deleite opponents or in this

466
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Speaker 2: case someone who's looking like a killer on the rise

467
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Speaker 2: up competition. Whise he's still there. We broke down the

468
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Speaker 2: previous three defeats before this and how much he was

469
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Speaker 2: very much still there in each of those fights to

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Speaker 2: a certain degree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but closely coming, I know.

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Speaker 2: But like he's not getting flatlined. I know. Obviously he

473
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Speaker 2: did get KOed kind of brutally by JDM there and

474
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Speaker 2: that was a fight that turned away from him late.

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Speaker 2: But he's no longer chasing a title, but there's still

476
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Speaker 2: a place for him if he wants.

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Speaker 1: What you're observing is that Gilbert is so technically proficient

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Speaker 1: and such a studious preparer that he really never goes

479
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Speaker 1: into any of these fights out gunned in that particular sense.

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Speaker 1: But to me, the common denominator through all these losses

481
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Speaker 1: is these younger guys have a level of in certain

482
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Speaker 1: cases craftiness or brute force that is proving to be

483
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Speaker 1: too much of a match. No matter Gilbert's smarts and

484
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Speaker 1: technical proficiency, and no matter the level of preparation that

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he puts in, there's really no question in

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Speaker 1: my mind that he does that again. At some point. Dude,

487
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Speaker 1: your body just begins to fail you. Dude, fighting at

488
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Speaker 1: thirty eight years old at one hundred and seventy pounds

489
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Speaker 1: is tough. Tough. That's a tough thing to do. And

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Speaker 1: you got a twenty five year old with an eight

491
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Speaker 1: or nine inch reach advantage with a jab that hurts

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Speaker 1: and stings and rocks your shit. It's a tough fucking

493
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Speaker 1: business man. It's tough.

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Speaker 2: He's got too much left for his own good because

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Speaker 2: it'd be hard to tell.

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Speaker 1: All the more reason to walk. I'm not saying he

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Speaker 1: has to walk now.

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Speaker 2: So four, No GFL coming through that door.

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Speaker 1: I don't think GFL is coming through any door other

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Speaker 1: than the bankruptcy one. But if Gilbert wanted to fight Colby, right,

501
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Speaker 1: we could do that. We could do that fight. I

502
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Speaker 1: think that fight would be potentially something worthwhile that maybe

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Speaker 1: fans could get behind, and I think I would favor

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Speaker 1: Gilbert to win that one. But you know, before on

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Speaker 1: last week we were noting that like, oh, well, Gilbert's

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Speaker 1: proficiency might give a guy like Morales a little bit

507
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Speaker 1: of trouble. But then when you see that the physical

508
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Speaker 1: deterioration just makes that hard to deal with. That's when

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Speaker 1: I think you don't have to look for the exit

510
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Speaker 1: right this instant, but it is the queue to begin

511
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Speaker 1: to look for the exit. All right.

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Speaker 2: It was back to Morales quick to close this out.

513
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Speaker 2: There was potential for us to be able to see

514
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Speaker 2: him truly challenge. Pushed it past the third round for

515
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Speaker 2: the first time as a pro. Maybe if he's down

516
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Speaker 2: on the fight cards having to rally back, we didn't

517
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Speaker 2: get that because he was so proficient in getting him

518
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Speaker 2: out of there kind of savagely. So, Luke, if you

519
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Speaker 2: could have one question answered on what we don't know

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Speaker 2: about Michael Morales moving forward or in his next fight,

521
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Speaker 2: what's the key question that you would need to know

522
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Speaker 2: to say, yeah, one day, this guy could fight.

523
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Speaker 1: For a wltway time. What does he do if somebody

524
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Speaker 1: fully neutralizes his job? Now understand something. He does something

525
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Speaker 1: that I absolutely love and you hear me complain about

526
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Speaker 1: it all the time. How many times have I been

527
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Speaker 1: on this show and said, I am so tired of

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Speaker 1: seeing young fighters not develop behind the job, especially with

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Speaker 1: a guy with the dimensions that he has. He's doing

530
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Speaker 1: it exactly right, but you're probably going to go up

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Speaker 1: against somebody who's going to have some kind of an

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Speaker 1: answer for that. Either A they're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: get the takedown or the back, or B they're gonna

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Speaker 1: find some kind of way maybe from open stance, to

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Speaker 1: neutralize it. And what is your second order game going

536
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Speaker 1: to look like? We don't know what the answer to

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Speaker 1: that is. And I don't think his jab, as good

538
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Speaker 1: as it is, is so imposing that nobody in that

539
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Speaker 1: line is going to be able to figure out what

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Speaker 1: to do about it. Being Gary would figure it out. Ian.

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Speaker 1: Gary's gonna be a tough fight, fast feet, fast hands,

542
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Speaker 1: touch and go at the same time, though, like that

543
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Speaker 1: beast lands on you and bat shit happens very quickly.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun fight twenty five versus twenty seven. It's

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Speaker 1: just I feel like there should be other guys that

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Speaker 1: give him to let them, let him work through some

547
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Speaker 1: of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna hit a lot more on this

549
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Speaker 2: undercard as well as that welterweight division. We also got

550
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Speaker 2: some big news we got to jump in with related

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Speaker 1: All right, will this be the first time that he's

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Speaker 1: ever had alcohol in his life?

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Speaker 2: Wow? This will be a big episode.

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Speaker 1: Okay, are we allowed to haze and insult him?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring up when he mentioned on our

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Speaker 2: show at that time that he was like a noted

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Speaker 2: high school athlete.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get we got to get a hoop in here,

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Speaker 1: and then turns dunking on him.

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Speaker 2: We need Pablo Torre to find out about whether AB's

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Speaker 2: telling the truth on that. Okay, but we love that guy.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Ab.

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Speaker 1: Toy might end up getting Bill Belichick fired? Have you

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Speaker 1: seen this story?

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't this would be a great you know what would

624
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Speaker 2: be great plot twist if he ends up like getting

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Speaker 2: Bill fired and then he gets the girl too on

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Speaker 2: top of that. Yeah, yeah, that's I think he's married.

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Speaker 2: But shout out to Pablo Torre. I'm sitting in his seat. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he gets after it, He gets down to

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Speaker 2: the truth. All right, there we go, obviously start in

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Speaker 2: that chair. Topic two. Let's do topic one double a.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: John Jones is in Thailand and when he's not on

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Speaker 2: the back of the motorcycle of a random man. As

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Speaker 2: he runs his fingers through that gentleman's curly, sweaty.

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Speaker 1: Hair, he was holding out like a horse's like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He's also enjoying a lot of coconuts and having a

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Speaker 2: grand old time. Overnight, he went on a Twitter rampage,

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Speaker 2: it seems, responding to fans, and the two tweets that

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Speaker 2: seem to say the most about why he hasn't fought

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Speaker 2: Tom Aspinall yet and why he hasn't been stripped appear

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Speaker 2: to be the bottom one. First, a fan saying, enjoying

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Speaker 2: your last days as a champ before being stripped. I

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Speaker 2: see John and Boney aka Johnny meet, says y'all uh stripped?

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Speaker 1: Lol?

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Speaker 2: Do I come across as the type of person who

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Speaker 2: cares about things like that? Jones would go on to

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Speaker 2: tweet y'all barking up the wrong tree. I told the

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Speaker 2: UFC my plans a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: I have no.

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Speaker 2: Clue why they haven't shared them with you guys yet,

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Speaker 2: you know what?

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Speaker 5: Fair enough?

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Speaker 2: In some ways, there has much to do about nothing.

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Speaker 2: John's like trolling everybody and live in his best life,

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00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: but it seems to be some levels of truth within that.

657
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: What do you take away from this tweeting sphere that

658
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: he went on, Well.

659
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Partly all these antagonistic videos he's intentionally putting out where

660
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, sort of sipping coconut water and

661
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: being like, guys, I'm over here and I'm unbothered by

662
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: your concerns, right, So it's all part of a kind

663
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: of a public facade. So that's part of it. But

664
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: just putting that away, I actually feel like he makes

665
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: a decent point here, which is I told the UFC

666
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: my plans, and when I say decent point, follow me.

667
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: But he says I told the UFC my plans, they

668
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: haven't shared them with you. But he's saying he's unconcerned

669
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: with being stripped. So obviously what he said is either

670
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: pay me or not that he's telling them too strip him,

671
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: but he's saying he's unconcerned with it. The ball is

672
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: in the UFC's court. Either pay him such that he

673
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: gets off of his rear end and stops eating you know,

674
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: exotic fruits over in Thailand or whatever, and or just

675
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: take the belt from him. In other words, he is

676
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: making his demands clear, the like who's in action are

677
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: we waiting on? We're making it seem like we're waiting

678
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: on John's inaction, but.

679
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: He probably already said his price a while ago, which,

680
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: by the way, we could be yes.

681
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: But if these actually if what he's saying in this

682
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: is the truth, which is he has declared to them

683
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: what the lines are that have to be met, then

684
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: the ball is actually in the UFC score.

685
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: That kid just running like four to six months behind

686
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: how they normally book because like we saw that the

687
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: main event of three seventeen come together in late right,

688
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: like forty something days away from IFW and dependent upon

689
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: another pay per view main events result in a lot

690
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: of ways.

691
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: To dictate who's fighting.

692
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: I talked about how UFC three hundred they were kind

693
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: of like late to the ball and had to call

694
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: poets on the last minute. They've had to do that

695
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: a lot lately, Like did they have they just not

696
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: gotten to it in their priority list to seal up

697
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Jones asmiral? Are they holding it for the next TV

698
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: deal like no? Or is this a pissing contest between

699
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: Hunter Campbell and John about whittling down to that number?

700
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: For sure? Let me ask a question long on Luke

701
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: way in here if you can, here's my question. How

702
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: bad would it be for not just the fans? Of

703
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: course we would all suffer, but how bad would it

704
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: be for the sport and in particular the UFC brand

705
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: if they fail to deliver on making the John versus

706
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: Tom fight. And I know what you're gonna say. John's

707
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna shoulder a fair amount of that blame. You're right,

708
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm not asking about that equation. I'm asking if you

709
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: just go back, there's no GSP versus Silva, there was

710
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: no fad Or versus Brock, there's no Randy versus fad Or.

711
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of super fights that have all fallen

712
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: to the wayside. Now you would, in that particular scenario,

713
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: which I'm positing, you would add that to the equation.

714
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: What kind of damage would that do?

715
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Fuck?

716
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: Man?

717
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

718
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: And you left out Jones and Ghana too, which is

719
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: another super fight we should have got.

720
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: Ah.

721
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. It would be bad if they

722
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: can't make this. But also, like I was saying the BC,

723
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: the rumor has been MSG they wouldn't have announced that

724
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: by now anymore.

725
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: They can get a killer Gate at MSG. I I

726
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: personally think it's not different from what I said a

727
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: couple days ago UFC those they're targeting in on MSG,

728
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: they're just gonna wait John out. You know, somebody's gonna

729
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna be the one that Ben's first. John is,

730
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: to his credit, if this is just a pissing contest

731
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: using his leverage, putting out publicly that doesn't care, constantly

732
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: acting like you know, I don't care or I don't

733
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: need to fight this guy. Yeah, and it's gonna be

734
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: a last minute you know what's the closest we can

735
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: get that number down.

736
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: So we're already announcing fights technically main events anyway for August,

737
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: right because we announced, and to an extent, there are

738
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: reports now that Vocals is probably end up fighting Diego Lopez.

739
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what am I saying? Yeay Rodriguez for the

740
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: rematch for UFC three twenty. So we're basically almost at September,

741
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: so we probably have at least at least two more

742
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: months of this before we can even get to a

743
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: conversation about what's actually gonna happen in November.

744
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: Now telling me they dodged a bullet by not putting

745
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: Aspenall gone at three seventeen, I think that would have

746
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: been one of those turning point in moments where a

747
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: whole bunch of fans would be like, fuck this.

748
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is the question that

749
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: I asked long on Luke, but I do think it's

750
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: worth thinking about about what kind of long term reputational

751
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: stain would follow UFC if they're unable to make this fight.

752
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: And I want to be clear one more time, even

753
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: if John and I don't think that this would be

754
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: sensical or that they should do it, but it's going

755
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: to be clear, even if John was asking for one

756
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: hundred million, they could easily afford that. Make no mistake

757
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: about it. Whatever number he's asking for, A he's earned it,

758
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: and B they could pay it. So to me, there's

759
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: a lot of blame to go around here. I'm going

760
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: to remain cautiously optimistic that this is all posturing.

761
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: Well because the posturing has taken so long. Though everybody

762
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: looks bad, we're just sort of like, let's.

763
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: Go, yeah. But if they come through, everyone's gonna be

764
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: like so freaking pumped.

765
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: You only held up the division Aspinall's career for another

766
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: additional year.

767
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here? But they are

768
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: going to pull the trigger by November. I think that

769
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: there's no way they delay passed.

770
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: Last year and a half of combat sports. I know

771
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: we got big fights as a result of Turkey being

772
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: in our lives, but the BS that comes with Turkey

773
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: and TKO's monopolizational ways, it's really I know it's it's

774
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: aimed at sucking every dollar out of the sport for them,

775
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: but it's slowly sucking all the.

776
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: Fun, right, you know what I mean?

777
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: Like this is all we talk about, because this is

778
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: all that's going on, and it dictates what we talk about.

779
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Is this better or worse than guys popping positive for

780
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: steroids and or crimes and or I don't know if the.

781
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: Fights are good, people don't care what else is going on.

782
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: That's true, That's right, you know what, So fucking true,

783
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: so true.

784
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is crazy.

785
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: All right.

786
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: Let's get back into topic number two, which is what

787
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: else we learned from Saturday's ufc APEX card. The reality,

788
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: it's where we're at. This was not an overly deep card,

789
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: and we lost the Komin event due to.

790
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: Herpes. Matt Herpy.

791
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: Not herpes.

792
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: No I was just saying, like it was a bad

793
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: way to lose the fight.

794
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.

795
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: So who has herpes? Belato allegedly and so Paul Craig

796
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: will live another day. Herpe's free or maybe not? Maybe,

797
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean maybe not. He might have been like guys,

798
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: been there, done that, Luke.

799
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: As far as the rest of the show, Myron Santos

800
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: had a very interesting fight against Sadik Yusef coming off

801
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: of that defeat, but it was santos Is striking that

802
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: ultimately held him off thirty to twenty seven on all

803
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: three score cards.

804
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: That showing for Sadik Usef, who by the way, has

805
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: now had a rough run of it. Obviously things were

806
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: poorly of his last fight, which I think was UFC

807
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: three hundred against Diego Lopez, and he got bombed on there.

808
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: Two of three score cards. The other one was twenty

809
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: that twenty eight.

810
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: You know, Yusef trying to wrestle to mix it up

811
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: and got nowhere with it. Santos showing great takedown defense

812
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: again relative to the attack of Sadik Usev was not

813
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: known as a slurt mine stretch. Bad fight for bad fight.

814
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: This is a tough moment for Sadik Yusef because he's

815
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: just thirty one, He's still in his physical prime. He

816
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: looked to be in tremendous physical condition. And I takes

817
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: Sadiq as a very smart guy. I hope he takes

818
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: this time to reflect that like his development is causing

819
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: him some issues.

820
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: Three straight losses is no.

821
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: Joke against not and not against chumps, no.

822
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: Against Editson Barbosa, Diego Lopez and al Myron Santo.

823
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like he should be better than this.

824
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: He will agree with Bisbee saying Santos looks a little

825
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: Spider Silva esque in the delivery of his striking.

826
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: I won't say that, but I think what I will

827
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: say that I was talking about this with with Bong

828
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Island over there before the show. He does have a

829
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: certain natural aptitude. You can see certain guys get good

830
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: at striking through rehearsal, and then certain guys have a

831
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: natural aptitude for it. Santos appears to me to have

832
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: a natural aptitude for it, and that that is noticeable.

833
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: I don't think that puts him in the conversation with

834
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: similarities even to necessary Anderson Silva, but I do recognize

835
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: he's got some ability for sure, But for Yusef is

836
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: a real come to Jesus moment. This is a tough one.

837
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: This is one of those ones we ever reflect on, Like, Okay,

838
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: if you don't you don't have to be like a

839
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: drastic necessarily, but if you don't diagnose what has gone

840
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: wrong at this point, then you could derail everything from here.

841
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: So an important moment to get it right.

842
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a potential action banger to open up. Now,

843
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: what was a four fight man card in the featherweight

844
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: division there with Melchi Coasta fighting for the third time

845
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: in eighty five days against Julian Juicy j Erosa. It

846
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: would go by the way of twenty nine to twenty

847
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: eight on all three scorecards for Melchie Costa. It was

848
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: a fun action fight there, Luke Thomas, are we like

849
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: picking up vibes now that Melchi Costa is here? The

850
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: fast schedule, the evolvement of his game, He's starting to

851
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: show a different turn. He's like he's pointing towards the

852
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: top of the division.

853
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, the evolution.

854
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: I mean he looks like a like a like with

855
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: the he's got like Elvis sideburns mixed with like two

856
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: different kinds of color hair. He almost looks like a

857
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: movie villain, you know, like he should be in like

858
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: Batman returns again.

859
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of it in that though those terms,

860
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: I will say this, he's gotten way better. You watch

861
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: his early fights even in the UFC, he's I'm not

862
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna say indistinguishable, but he just he's cleaned up so

863
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: many of the problems. Dude. I thought it was pretty

864
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: impressive the way in which he was able to pick

865
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: his shots. Did the head kick he landed on Erosa

866
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: in the first round. But let me ask a question,

867
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: did either of you seem to think that Erosa looked

868
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: off a little bit even before the head kick?

869
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: He hung in there and encountered a lot.

870
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, like he got a little bit better by

871
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: the third. But lo Isle Luke, did you not seem

872
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: to think he was moving underwater?

873
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 4: To me, I didn't think he looked off. I think

874
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 4: he just was getting hit clean and like he was

875
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 4: buckling with a lot of these shots. Dude. But you're right,

876
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: round three he put it on him.

877
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

878
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: I was actually nervous when they read the scorecards. I

879
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: had a bet on Milkie. I was like, shit, dude,

880
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: did Julian pull this out because round two was close too,

881
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, Helki got it done.

882
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: He did four straight wins for Melkie, improving to five

883
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: and two in the promotions.

884
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's turned it around big time.

885
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he loves to paint his face at the

886
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: way it is. He's got like a fun vibe to it,

887
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: for sure.

888
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: But that striking was crisp this time around. I thought

889
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: the shot selection was great in this fight. Yeah, I mean,

890
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure how far he can go with it,

891
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: but whatever he was gonna be, he's absolutely leveled up

892
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: far past.

893
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: That thirty five year old Jared Gordon would go him

894
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: there against Thiago Moyses and deliver him be via one

895
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: perfect counter right hand at the tail or in the

896
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 2: second half of that first round thirty five years old.

897
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: But this felt like a breakthrough win for him. And

898
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: then he's afterwards shouting out uh, mental health recovery for

899
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: fighters and trying to, you know, partner with the right

900
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: people to create lifeline opportunities. All in all, big big weekend.

901
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: For Jared Gordon. Jared Gordon is a good fighter. I

902
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: mean he's had some tough luck along the way. There's

903
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: a few fights you can go back where you know,

904
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: you could say he got robbed or the judges could

905
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: The Patty Pimblet fight not not could have been a

906
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: breakthrough moment in his career.

907
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: And he's thirty six, Sorr, not thirty.

908
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Five, and you know to be the guy I Tago

909
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: moiss who is limited but good, and to do it

910
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: so thoroughly and with a brilliantly timed kind of CounterPunch

911
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: over the top dude Jared Gordon. Again, the clock is

912
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: working against him here a little bit, and sometimes the

913
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: judges are too, but he's clearly not an easy out

914
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: for anybody. I'm very impressed with his how he has

915
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: managed to turn himself into somebody quite formidable.

916
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fight before he had dropped a split decision

917
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: to Nasrat Akpos so that's a close fight. Then he

918
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: had stopped Mark Madison. Before that, you had the no

919
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: contest against Bobby Green, and then the fight against Paddy

920
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: Pimblet that probably should have gone his way, so he

921
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: could be on a much bigger run right here. But

922
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: at thirty six, it was good to see him come

923
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: around with that, getting Moistus out of there. What else

924
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: on this card jumped out at you. I have not

925
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: heard you say the name Nur Sultan Rusaboyev yet.

926
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: No, not that one. Hold on, let me have my

927
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: notes here at now I cannot find them because today

928
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: is And there was a lot of talk about Luana Santo's.

929
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: Shout out to Gabe Green. He had a great come

930
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 4: from behind submission win. He was definitely losing the first

931
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: like seven minutes of that fight, got the the face

932
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: face crank.

933
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that second round against Mattea's Camello Luke. A

934
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: lot of people love Luana Santosh at bandon white where

935
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: where we don't talk nice about anybody. What do you

936
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: think about that?

937
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: I know yours does.

938
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: What do you think about that key lock? Luke?

939
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 4: So the key lock, I believe they said first key

940
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: lock in women's UFC history.

941
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, the key lock is not something any UFC fighter

942
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: should ever submit to.

943
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: You're talking about that some like white belt ship right here.

944
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying it is. It is. You should never ever,

945
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: you should never ever be in a position where you

946
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: have to tap to something.

947
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: If you rolled with Ryan Hall, I have and your

948
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: wife has rolled with Roxanne Model.

949
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Fur You Ryan Hall snatched me up. That was bad.

950
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: That was a bad role for me.

951
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: Did you catch Matt Herpece?

952
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: No, I did catch an l though it was terrible.

953
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: I got twistered. He actually twisted me. It was terrible. Yeah, dude,

954
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: you should not be losing. Dude. Keylocks are things you

955
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: see it like heavyweight and then among number ass fighters typically.

956
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Now it worked here, so good for her. It's not

957
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: a thing that I think you can really hang your

958
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: hat on as super impressive. I'm sorry.

959
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: Okay, at least reads punch defense was not super impressive.

960
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: But didn't he say going.

961
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: The kid, the Korean kid, Hungsung Park?

962
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: Yes, dude, he's good.

963
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: He's good. So we talked about him on Friday. I

964
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: shouted him out on Friday Show. He won road to

965
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: UFC in the flyweight division. Dude, his ground game is good.

966
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: It's balanced. He was able to find the back very easily.

967
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: He got the rear naked choke perfectly. He's good. A

968
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: lot of these Korean guys that they are signing are

969
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: a lot of like there their dudes who will bang

970
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: it out with you with like mid carters. Have you

971
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: noticed that? Yeah, But there's this kid. To me, looks

972
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: like he's got some real potential. I liked what I

973
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: saw from Hungstung Park, detail oriented in this game. That's

974
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: what I want to see, promising future. Let's say that.

975
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Louke, anyone else you want to shout out? Luke?

976
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: No sold my Denise Gomes finish there in the second round,

977
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: like it didn't happen.

978
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

979
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 4: Well, Gaff had Denise Gomes round two KO plus one

980
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 4: thousand cash. That's so I gotta give him a shout

981
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: out for that. That guy Yadier Deval, he got the

982
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: sub he looked for.

983
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: Connor Matthews.

984
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, featherweight I think that was his first ever career

985
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: sub too. Uh yeah, Gabe Green, Yeah.

986
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 8: It was, I mean it was.

987
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: It was okay, it was.

988
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: In execution. It was a fun card. It was a

989
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: fun watch.

990
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: Okay, But.

991
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: Damn, this motherfucker will call it anything good.

992
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: That's true. But I got three words to say about

993
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: the APEX in general and Saturday's card too much bisbing.

994
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: Somebody's gotta say it, Okay, somebody's gotta say it.

995
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: He is chatty. I will say this though about the Apex.

996
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: You know, the UFC has been undergoing trying to undergo

997
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: some renovations a few renovations, a few changes to the

998
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: way it goes, it's gonna feel different. I do believe that.

999
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: If you have a three to five thousand and their

1000
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 2: they're real fann two and they're real fans, and they're

1001
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: on top of the act.

1002
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Yes, make it, dude. Let me just say this, for

1003
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: the UFC, you guys are already charged and everyone's doing

1004
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: It's not just UFC. I have to take my wife

1005
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: and daughter to go see Shakira later this month and

1006
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: we have Dude, we're in the four hundreds.

1007
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be able to see her hips from there.

1008
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: I told my wife, we have to go get fucking

1009
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: binoculars to go watch this goddamn show.

1010
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: You will enjoy watching that one through.

1011
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: And dude, the tickets were, like all together for the

1012
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: three of us plus taxes, over seven hundred dollars.

1013
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: Sorry, Luke to you and your family. Not worth it.

1014
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: I told my wife this, I't like, what, what the

1015
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: fuck is the point? But she made a promise to

1016
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: my daughter whatever, And we never go to concerts this expensive.

1017
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: I always go for free or for you know, cheap

1018
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: ass things. Wait, when does two Ky's first cannibal corpse concert,

1019
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: not yet, although she was in utero when I took

1020
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: my wife to see Dying Fetus and n acceptable, my

1021
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: wife was pregnant. The point I want to make was,

1022
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: here's a chance. This is the thing that's driving me

1023
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: fucking crazy about the PFL. The PFL has an opportunity

1024
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: at a moment where TKO is just pulling all the

1025
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: fun out of the sport to be like a fan

1026
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: first organization. Dude, If the UFC you don't need to

1027
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: make a bunch of money on these apex shows you're

1028
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: already like, doesn't matter, charge prices that any real fan

1029
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: can afford.

1030
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: Dude, you know they would prefer to do what they

1031
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: do now. And I know that they are expanding, but

1032
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: right now, what do they charge? They charge experiences. They

1033
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: charge you a couple of thousand to.

1034
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Sit, okay with like a you know, but that's right

1035
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: now as it stands. If they're gonna put some capacity

1036
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: in there, if they would make the tickets, I don't know.

1037
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: Fifty bucks seventy five bucks though?

1038
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: Is they're in value wide because arise because of dude,

1039
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: because they because they've got all that debt they got

1040
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: to pay back, because they're trying to take over combat

1041
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: sports and own everything.

1042
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: Okay, well it seems to me like they already don't

1043
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: make money on that. You could still make money on

1044
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: that by by charging that.

1045
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: It would build more fan interaction and feeling like, Okay,

1046
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: maybe I can't afford a numbered card, you know, in

1047
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: a big arena because of these government contracts and in

1048
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: them raising the price. But maybe I can go to

1049
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 2: where the real fans go at the Apex. That would

1050
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: be great if they build, that would.

1051
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: Be amazing to be able to go see UFC fights

1052
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 1: for seventy five bucks. That's great.

1053
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: We also have a shot of Milky Coasta's toes. Luke,

1054
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: he had that foot in it. Wow, that's why are

1055
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: we showing this? This is gross and okay, that's uh

1056
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: into this, Luke.

1057
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: You liked that.

1058
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: It's biology.

1059
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: You say that the same about female fighters showing feet

1060
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: on OnlyFans. It is biology, that's more.

1061
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: That's titillation. That's a little different.

1062
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: Let's slide into topic number three, and it is the

1063
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: UFC's welterweight division at Large. Now that we yes, we can,

1064
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: we can insert Michael Morales's name to the stuffed, overcrowded

1065
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: bottleneck of fun violence.

1066
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: Is it historically deep? I don't know.

1067
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: It's deep as shit. It's the best division to watch

1068
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: right now. Look, I thought middleweight was the best division

1069
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: watch last year, bandam weight, the year before lightweight, the

1070
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: year before that.

1071
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: It goes in you have fucking insane. You have to

1072
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: be to be like, middleweight is the best division to

1073
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: watch last.

1074
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: Year at the top end, not knowing who was going

1075
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: to come out of there as champion, whether it was

1076
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: a reborn Whittaker or out of Sonya or Hamza or

1077
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: DDP or straight like it was like whe or Bo Nickel,

1078
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: or like it was wide open at the top, it

1079
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: felt like it could be a soap opera.

1080
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a terrible call.

1081
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 2: Okay, Well this division is deep and exciting. Luke positively

1082
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: on fire. So let's do an episode an exercise. Excuse

1083
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: me to put this in perspective. We are going to

1084
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: rank names in the following way. Who do you think

1085
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: is the actual best welterway? Ignore the records. It's not

1086
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 2: by what they accomplished. It's almost a pound for pound

1087
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: way to look at it in terms of ability. Where

1088
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: do we stand when it's all said and done, Who

1089
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: will be proven to be the best, Luke. The names

1090
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: that we are the top seven here that you have

1091
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: to for this exercise rank include Islam Mahchev, who we

1092
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: believe will be fighting for the title in his debut there,

1093
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: Jack Dela Madelanea, the Champion, Shavkat Rochmanoff, Sean Brady, Ian Gary,

1094
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: Joaquim Buckley, Michael Morales. I think the only you know,

1095
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: superstar major names we're missing is Leon Edwards and Bala Muhammad,

1096
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: the two former champions that might be going in the

1097
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: other direction. But these are the seven that are firmly

1098
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: within the grasp pair of this title. How would you

1099
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: rank them on ability? We remember we did this exercise

1100
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: before a round of big fights and Iad and garyet

1101
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: number two and the people were killing the people were

1102
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: killing me. Luke.

1103
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, good reason, just to say a couple of

1104
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: things here. In order to do this exercise, it requires

1105
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: that we speculate. We are not doing this based off

1106
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: of what they've done. We're making a presumption. Let's say,

1107
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: if we could fast forward in five years, what will

1108
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: we be able to say about this current crop the

1109
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: seven names that we mentioned, how good will they all

1110
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: end up turning out to be if you had to

1111
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: rank them that in that particular sense. So like, I'm

1112
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: looking at it like how talented I think they are

1113
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: and how far I think they will go. I am

1114
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: required to speculate based on the way we're doing this.

1115
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's the point of it.

1116
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: So no, no, I'm telling this. I'm telling the audience. I'm

1117
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: telling the audience because I don't want anyone looking at

1118
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: their resumes and being like, oh, your rankings don't make sense. Yes,

1119
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: based on their current resumes, it might not. It's a

1120
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: function of how I perceive how it will go.

1121
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: Right if he says, Luke Offen says, nobody knows who's

1122
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: gonna win the fights.

1123
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: They don't. People can say whatever the fuck they want.

1124
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: Their science has proven that.

1125
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: All right, put up my top seven here and this

1126
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: is how I got all Right, here we go. So again,

1127
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: this is my power rankings. However you want to call

1128
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: it right, number one, I've got shot cut rock Model.

1129
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: I still think he hasn't rightfully ascended to the throne.

1130
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: I think he will. I'm gonna put Islam in number two.

1131
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1132
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Between Islam and Jack, I had

1133
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: a really hard time with this one, I could easily

1134
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: see a case be see where you could have Jack

1135
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: number one or number two. Okay, I struggled with this

1136
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: part of it, but I do think Islam is generationally good,

1137
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: and Jack I think is very talented. Who might end

1138
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: up beating him? Okay, but I just don't know. So

1139
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna kind of go with

1140
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: my gut a little bit and say, I think Islam's

1141
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: gonna do really well up there, but we'll see. At

1142
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: number four. I think Sean Brady, Sean Brady is not

1143
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: done getting some big wins, but I do think the

1144
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: lack of the striking game as a dual threat because

1145
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: we all agree his ground game lights out. In fact,

1146
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue Islam has a better way to marry

1147
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: the two between striking and grappling, but pure ground game,

1148
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to Sean Brady. The big quibble

1149
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: I have already is this four or five pair. Okay,

1150
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: hold on, that's fine, let me get through, Let me

1151
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: get through, let me get through. So Sean Brady I

1152
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: think has the best pure ground game, but I think

1153
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: it's a little lopsided relative to another ones. Gary sitting

1154
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: at five. To me, the lack of Gary's finishing mechanics

1155
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: and finishing ability more generally, I think is gonna really

1156
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: hurt him long term. Buckley, I think I could even

1157
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: see higher. I could see him at five and Gary

1158
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: at six, and Morales I put at seven. And the

1159
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: reason why is because I just don't think he's gonna

1160
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: be in this division for that much longer relatively speaking.

1161
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: That's my topic.

1162
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: But that's built heavy on speculation.

1163
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: We got to see how That's the whole point of

1164
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: this fucking exercise, right, I mean a disclaimer at the

1165
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: top that we're speculating this.

1166
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: We're speculating how they would do against each other, we're

1167
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: speculating how they will evolve within there, I'm saying you specifically,

1168
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: specifically adopting the guarantee that Michael Morriles is not long

1169
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: for this division. All I'm saying is that specific speculation.

1170
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: I can't believe it until I see it, until I

1171
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: see him talk about a really hard weight cut, until I.

1172
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: See you know, reasons to go. Yeah, he's gonna move

1173
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: up eventually.

1174
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: But I'm saying you're speculating on your own off off

1175
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: of Saturday Night's fight, that he's not long for this.

1176
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: That's right, I am speculating in that direction.

1177
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's the second worst thing you did. What

1178
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: is up with with the disrespect that you're showing Gary hair?

1179
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: We're talking, you know, I love Sean Brady as a man.

1180
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: He's a hell of a fighter.

1181
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: You think you think, okay, let's talk this out, but

1182
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: like head to head, so explain to me clearly you

1183
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: think Gary beats Brady head to have. I will bet you,

1184
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: I'll bet you twenty bucks that that I would wish

1185
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: that we would do something like Brady is going to

1186
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: take his lunch like.

1187
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: Eric Nixon and Paul Felder exchanging cash on the air Live.

1188
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would be one.

1189
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: Maybe he owed him twenty bucks for I don't know,

1190
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: maybe they went to Chipotle and Felder was like, I

1191
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: can't find my yeah you know.

1192
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Okay, Luke, let's go.

1193
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: But wait all right, long Isan Luke wayan on my rankings?

1194
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: What did I get right? What did I get wrong? Uh?

1195
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 4: Well, I do want to see BC's before. But I

1196
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 4: would put Islam number one, Okay, I had admittedly put

1197
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 4: Jack a little lower. I'd probably woh yeah, I hate

1198
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: to say, because he's my ausie brethren, but I really

1199
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of faith in Jack Jesus really

1200
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 4: Sean Brady. Ian Gary is such an interesting matchup because

1201
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: I do think Sean Brady could out wrestle him to

1202
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: a decision. But I do think Ian Gary is the

1203
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: more well rounded.

1204
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: Gary just takes away everyone's best. Uh that's attribute.

1205
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: Seven is appropriate bluckly morale.

1206
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, each ship, how about that.

1207
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 2: Let's see the BC's more sober list here.

1208
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: Let's see BC's list our talkers through BC.

1209
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: Look, until I'm proven wrong, I always felt like Islam

1210
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: could go up to one seventy and win the belt

1211
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: on day one. Until I'm proven wrong, and you know,

1212
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: still in his peak of his prime here at thirty three.

1213
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with that shof cut. I'm not going

1214
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: to write off on injury plagued performances, even though I'm

1215
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: building a lot of my Engary stock on how good

1216
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: he didn't defeat against Shafcott. I'm saying that was a

1217
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: compromise choft Cup. But let's give this killer a chance.

1218
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: I struggled the most with the three to four here

1219
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: because I had Ian Gary two last time, and that

1220
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: was before some big developments and some changes atop this division.

1221
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: I know Ian Gary's ceiling is limited by his ability

1222
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: to not be a dangerous finisher, But I also know

1223
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: that he can hang in there and defuse anyone's top game,

1224
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: maybe for their top skill, maybe with the exception. Like

1225
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 2: you're saying, if you believe that Brady would break through

1226
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: and that would give him the fight, that he could

1227
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: break through on the ground.

1228
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: This isn't meant to disrespect Brady.

1229
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: I just think Mike Morales, for as long as he

1230
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 2: is going to be here, has a chance to shake

1231
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: some shit up with those physical advantages. He has a

1232
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: shot without without his without his deficiency is necessarily costing him.

1233
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: Like I want to see if he can ride this

1234
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: wave and what we can do there. Uh, Buckley's a

1235
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: tough out. I just feel like Brady may have already

1236
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: scored his biggest win.

1237
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: I can't believe the Sean Brady disrespect Long Island. Luke,

1238
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: how do you how do you perceive Brian Campbell's power

1239
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: rankings there?

1240
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: I do think Sean bro I mean I said I

1241
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: agreed with Luke six and so I do think Morales,

1242
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: Buckley needs to be your bottom too.

1243
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: So I think I think Bley would be Brady. I

1244
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: think Buckley would be Brady.

1245
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 4: Buckley is sneaky, well rounded, but I think he's.

1246
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: You make a mistake against him, you pay big.

1247
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 4: I don't think he's top five though, I really don't.

1248
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: Man. I think Gary is overrated here and I think

1249
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: Brady is being slept on. I do. I'll tell you

1250
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: this much. Can we agree on this? To me, Buckley

1251
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: is a bit of a wild card, of course, because

1252
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't beaten anyone yet that makes you really go wow.

1253
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: He can contend with the top three, but you look

1254
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: at him on paper. I didn't think he was best

1255
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: suited at eighty five. One seventy is much better. He's

1256
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: very athletic, he is very well rounded. He can beat

1257
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 1: you on the feet. He probably is not gonna sub

1258
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: you out, but he can certainly wrestle you or defense

1259
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: to wrestle you. So I actually feel like, you know,

1260
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: that's the hard one for me to get right on

1261
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: that one. But I do feel that Morales is technically

1262
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: behind the curve, and I think Brady's ground game is

1263
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem for a lot of people.

1264
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Brady, but I feel like he's

1265
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: still very dependent. Do you very dependent upon the takedown?

1266
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: And I'm not even though the striker.

1267
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: Just see how many different kinds of takedowns he got

1268
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: on Leon Edwards did? He made it look fucking effort.

1269
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: I would love to go ahead to head with you

1270
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: in a Gary versus Brady matchup.

1271
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Dude, and Gary, if Gary fights Brady, we have to

1272
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: do a special Leila and I on one side. You

1273
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: know it'll be It'll be me and Sean Brady getting

1274
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: tattoos together. How about that?

1275
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: There? You go? All right, Louke, let's stay in this

1276
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 2: topic and let's stay in this division. It is time

1277
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: to play match maker moving forward? Okay, if they gave

1278
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: you the keys to the matchmaking to Sean Shelby, Mick

1279
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: Dana sat you down and be like, Luke, we're sick

1280
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: of hearing you rip us so low key.

1281
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Why don't you come over here at all? Why don't

1282
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: you come in here and help us?

1283
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: So, Luke Thomas from the champion on down there, those

1284
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: are seven big names. You can also use people like

1285
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: Balal the former champion. There, Leon Edwards the former champion.

1286
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: But how would you map it?

1287
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: Out moving forward, so definitely, and I know he's been

1288
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: calling for it. You know he's been calling for it.

1289
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: I think Sean Brady versus Ian Gary is the fight

1290
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: to make. That's the first.

1291
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: Okay, then who's getting the title shot?

1292
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: If that's the fight you're making? All right, So Islam's

1293
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: gonna come over. So Islam and JDM there we go, okay,

1294
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: all right, so then we have we got to figure

1295
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: out what to do with rock Monov. We got to

1296
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: figure out what to do with Buckley, We got to

1297
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: figure out what to do with Morale.

1298
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: Right, let me ask you a question. Does does Rockmanov,

1299
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: due to the injuries and delays, lose that that spot

1300
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: he once held, which means when he's when he's healthy,

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: he gets.

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00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: The title show. So I don't think he should, but

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00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: let's posit that he does. Give him Belall. That was

1304
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: the fight that they were going to make anyway, give

1305
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: him Belall. Wow.

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00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: So Ballall would go from losing the title in a

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00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 2: close to Jack to here's Shov close.

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00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was four to one, but I know

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00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: what you mean.

1310
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: Okay, but it could be. It's it was, but it

1311
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: was close and competitive physical, So I would go I

1312
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: would go Ballall and shot cut.

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Speaker 1: Uh we've already got are we? Assuming that Buckley beats Usman,

1314
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I am okay. I think he's gonna wax him. I

1315
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: think it's not even gonna be close.

1316
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: Luke Luke will see that. You gotta you want to

1317
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: fight for Usman here, don't.

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00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: Know, I'm favorite by all Right, So if Buckley wins

1319
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: that one, I think you do Buckley Leon Edwards. And

1320
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: then if Morales, well, he's open Morales, I'm not sure

1321
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: what you do with wonderfully coming up? Doesn't he sitting

1322
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: at eleven? I mean, Michael Morales is already at twelve,

1323
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: but that was before the updated rankings. He's gonna be

1324
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: He's going to be past that again. Colby. Colby's the

1325
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: name you could do.

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00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: I know this is too far off a stretch, possibly,

1327
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: but I I want Morales, you want shove Cup.

1328
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: You want Morales. Belall that's an oh.

1329
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: Five around, yeah five rounder.

1330
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't hate that. I don't hate that because you

1331
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: got again the piston jab and you've got dynamite takedown defence.

1332
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: But Ballall is going to be on him.

1333
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: It would be it would be dependent upon Belall not

1334
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: moving up.

1335
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: To middleweight, which there was already talk of that.

1336
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,919
Speaker 2: He's already was calling out Hamza, and then you also

1337
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: have Sean Strickland who badly wants to fight with him.

1338
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: So since middleweight in a year span kind of lost

1339
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: a lot of its luster with a lot of those

1340
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: big names losing, I wouldn't hate that, but if he

1341
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: stays from that perspective, he would be getting a guy

1342
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: who's still raw and Morales, you know what I'm saying.

1343
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: They both beat Gilbert somewhat recently. I don't hate that.

1344
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: I like that a lot.

1345
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: That's my pitch on there, but I'm starting to come

1346
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: around to Brady Gary might be that right fight.

1347
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: I think Brady Gary.

1348
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: We creating multiple number one contender fights. So is it

1349
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: just going to come down to who looks the best

1350
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: at that moment with the most hype behind them?

1351
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how they're going to manage

1352
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: it because you got so many guys who are all

1353
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden just surged. Someone tweeted me They're like,

1354
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: every week it's like there's a new welterweight contender or

1355
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: emerging star anyway, and I'm like, that's absolutely true. What

1356
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, is I think that this title

1357
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: is gonna change hands a lot? I just don't see

1358
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: hardly any of these guys. Is Like, even though I

1359
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: like Shof got the most, you know, see the kind

1360
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: of guy who's gonna have like four title defenses, I

1361
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: don't think so. I just don't believe.

1362
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: Well, now, Luke, who's closing twenty twenty five as welterweight

1363
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: champion in the UFC.

1364
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: Oh god, wait, I wanted to make two quick points. Yes,

1365
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 4: one is I think winner of Buckley Usman should fight

1366
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 4: Blall because Usman Balal already got that built in beef

1367
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: and then Buckley gets the former champ. It's like a

1368
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 4: good step up in competition.

1369
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: So that'd be a big opportunity for Buckley versus the.

1370
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 4: Other thing about how hot the welter vision is. Right now,

1371
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 4: we're forgetting all about Carlos Protest because he just lost

1372
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: to Ian Gary, but like he's in this mix somewhat,

1373
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: and we're forgetting about Joel Alvarez, who, after just pulling

1374
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 4: out of that BSD fight, is now moving up to welter.

1375
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: There you go, Protest Alvarez, next, there you go.

1376
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: I was gonna say Alvarez. Gilbert Burns, give him a

1377
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 4: nice veteran test suit.

1378
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: Damn can we give Gilbert Burns in the belly of

1379
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: the beast? This is what happened, bro. But Gilbert Burns

1380
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: has been fighting nothing but hammers for the last like

1381
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: four to five times.

1382
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Man, Like, come on, But you would agree that this

1383
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: calendar year will end with Islam as champion. You will

1384
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: agree with that.

1385
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: Probably that jackfight's going to be. I can't wait. Damn,

1386
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

1387
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: They don't put that in Perth. Where do they put

1388
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: that October?

1389
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Probably? Yeah, there we go.

1390
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 2: Okay, they're get they're pulling this back in the UFC.

1391
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 2: They're trying.

1392
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: If they can make that John fight in November. I mean,

1393
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on.

1394
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: But and then if they if we can still build

1395
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: towards like the long range build toward Ilia Islam is

1396
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: it's still possible. What the weight changes, it could be,

1397
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: it could be.

1398
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: I think if Islam wins the title, it's impossible.

1399
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: I think if he loses, not if not, If Ilia

1400
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: wins the title by stoppage and then calls and calls

1401
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 2: out for it.

1402
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: If Islam wins the belt, he's not coming back. If

1403
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: he loses. Different story.

1404
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: All right, interesting stuff right there. Indeed, quickly before we

1405
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: get into our next topic, right there, I want to

1406
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Speaker 2: just talk to you about a classic idea. How about

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Speaker 2: Classic Hair Club president, I'm also a client right here.

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Speaker 2: When I see it come up in the laundry pile,

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Speaker 2: I reach right away because I know I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Your entire wardrobe.

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Speaker 1: I was wearing True Classic before they became a brand

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Speaker 1: True Classic is interested in advertising on the show, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: Classic four as I indicated a while now, and from

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's head back into topic number four, and this

1466
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: is a developing story in a couple of different ways.

1467
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: The future of TKO boxing. That's not what they planned

1468
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: or plan on calling it. Of course, but the idea

1469
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: of the March fifth announcement that Turkey Lasik, the Nation

1470
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: of Saudi Arabia would partner with TKO Boxing, Dana White,

1471
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: Nick con Ari, Emanuel all those behind there, and that

1472
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: we thought they would kick off with a September twelfth,

1473
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: Friday night Netflix Allegiance Stadium offering with Canelo Alvarez versus

1474
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: Bud Crawford. A lot has changed since then. You remember

1475
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: in the past week Turkey ala K changing the narrative

1476
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: with his tweets through Mike Coppinger of Ring Magazine about

1477
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 2: moving that date to Saturday the thirteenth, that would go

1478
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: head to head with what TKO is already doing with UFC. Notcha.

1479
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: Now we have more boxing media outlets updating their stories

1480
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: and changing the conversation. One of those is Brunch Boxing,

1481
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: which interviewed a bunch of fighters who had been reached

1482
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: out to by TKO to fight under their banner, to

1483
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: fight for their TKO World titles and to fight at

1484
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: these certain pay structures. And the reviews at least from

1485
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: this group of fighters are very negative. So, Luke Thomas,

1486
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 2: we have an additional update overnight from Turkey Lashk. We

1487
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: go to the tweet again here that says we have

1488
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: confirmed the promoter for Canelo Crawford. It will be Sela

1489
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: for riadd says, and the broadcaster we have not decided yet,

1490
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: but the date will be Saturday, September thirteenth. More details soon, Luke.

1491
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 2: Originally there was the boxing scene report that said don't

1492
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: buy this, this is another smoke screen, but UFC hasn't

1493
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: commented on it yet. Turkey doubling down. There's no world

1494
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: we're going to live in right where TKO Boxing is

1495
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: going to put out Canelo Crawford on the same night

1496
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: that they're doing UFC. Notecha, So does this mean, all

1497
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: things considered, would it be grand opening, grand closing for

1498
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: TKO Boxing or at the very least, are you convinced

1499
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: now that there is a divorce of some kind between

1500
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: Dana on Turkey.

1501
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a little too early to proclaim divorces

1502
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: on the way, but I will say that natural fault

1503
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: lines have emerged far faster than I thought they would.

1504
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: One thing I've not heard brought up, you see, I

1505
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: would love to get you to weigh in on this

1506
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: in just a moment, which is is I wonder to

1507
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: what extent Canelo got in Turkey's ear. You'll recall that

1508
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: when Canelo fought COVIALV, they had to wait at that

1509
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: time for the Daz and Masvidol fight to be concluded.

1510
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: The zone shows to but like you know, Canelo having

1511
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: to play almost in the evening second fiddle to what

1512
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: the UFC was doing. I don't think he liked that.

1513
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the boxing fans like that. And by

1514
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: TKO putting this fight on Friday while maintaining that Saturday slot,

1515
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: which is you know, typically the fight night for Boxing two,

1516
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: it was kind of TKO, which, by the way, I

1517
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: understand something. TKO is UFC and WWE first. The boxing

1518
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: part is a secondary thing that they only now are

1519
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: adding to, and again it might become a huge part.

1520
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. But when I'm trying to

1521
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: point out is organizationally, what do they prioritize They prioritize

1522
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 1: their MMA business. I don't I don't know. I wonder

1523
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: if Canelo gotten someone's ear about that and was like,

1524
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't really want to fight second fiddle or early, or.

1525
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: They go ahead to ahead, we've got the bigger fight, or.

1526
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: Let's just go on Saturday Night, Like, we have a

1527
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: different fan base and we can do this. We can

1528
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: put this anywhere. We don't have to accommodate the UFCS

1529
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: and TKO's interests in this regard. And I think that

1530
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anyone bring this up. But like Canelo

1531
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: was noteworthily pissed after that, Covid left fight for having

1532
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: to sit around and wait for UFC. I don't think

1533
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: he wants to do that again.

1534
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: He didn't seem pissed fighting at seven thirty am against

1535
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: a Williams school who wouldn't stay in front of him.

1536
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: And if they were gonna pay him for you know,

1537
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: one hundred million, maybe he would have done it there too.

1538
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1539
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: I think you got to tie into what happened with

1540
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: the fact that Turkey had tweeted out a week ago

1541
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: that he was flying to New York that coincided with

1542
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: the Netflix upfront where they announced the schedule, including of course,

1543
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: the boxing match to Jake Paul's promoting with Taylor Seruano

1544
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: three in July, including an NFL game.

1545
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: No mention of this.

1546
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if Turkey, Dana, Netflix all get together and

1547
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: the deal didn't go well, and then does this lead

1548
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: to Turkey going, well, we don't we don't need Netflix,

1549
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: So if it's not gonna be Netflix, it's gonna be

1550
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: riadd season on our pay per views and we're moving

1551
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: it to Saturday and we're going ahead to head any

1552
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: somehow there was the origin of this. Your theory on

1553
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 2: Canelo is interesting. I'm wondering if they just didn't get

1554
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: the offer that they thought they did, or maybe Dana's

1555
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: public comments about I hate stadium fights.

1556
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it. He was like,

1557
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: what we all? What was the clip? He was like,

1558
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: someone asked him, Hey, you know you're famously don't like

1559
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: doing stadiums and he was like, I hate it. And

1560
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, how does Turkey hear that and think it's

1561
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: a good idea to make that guy the guy. It's

1562
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: not that I don't think Dana can promote shows. I

1563
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: saw Dana promote shows successfully for decade plus. But if

1564
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: you have openly disdained the stadium show, how does that

1565
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: work in your favorite LNG term?

1566
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: Think about it? A big part of what Turkey does.

1567
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: Obviously the main point of it, since he's using his

1568
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: nation's public investment fund is to put across sports watching

1569
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: side of it, the Vision twenty thirty thing, the thing

1570
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: that they're doing to not have the same dependence on

1571
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: oil money, create tourism, create entertainment options. We know, like

1572
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 2: that whole mission. That's first and foremost. Secondly, though there's

1573
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: a big eagle play, there's a big flex play going on.

1574
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 2: If that's what he's normally used to being the center

1575
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 2: of it all, the matchmaker, the guy who calls the

1576
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: shots and all that, and now TKO putting in zero

1577
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: money and going equal partner and they're calling all the

1578
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: shots with Turkey's gonna sit back in the row and

1579
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 2: just you know, fold his arms and enjoy the show.

1580
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: Maybe we were naive to believe that this would ever

1581
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: work out that way.

1582
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: I just feel like the TKO, I really wonder if

1583
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: the concept is even possible. Can you conceptually manage both

1584
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: a monopoly in pro wrestling a monopoly in boxing as

1585
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: well as in mma without there being a substantive trade

1586
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: off in one direction or perhaps multiple directions, or without.

1587
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 2: Buying a promotion so you actually have the fighters you need.

1588
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: Right right try Can you tell people about the brunch

1589
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: boxing report that indicated that TKO was having some difficulties

1590
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 1: signing talent.

1591
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: Yes, So the main quotes coming out of the talent were,

1592
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: why am I going to take the risk of leave,

1593
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: potentially leaving my current promoter, going to a promotion that

1594
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure is actually gonna last the test of time,

1595
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 2: and on top of that, exiting out of the out.

1596
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: Much as we hate the alphabet structure with the four

1597
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: sanctioning bodies, to the fighters, it's their dream.

1598
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: Those are the titles that forever they can say.

1599
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: I was WBC Champion and now these fighters have been

1600
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: saying the ones that were quoted by brunch Boxing. Why

1601
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: would I take that risk and go fight for this

1602
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: absolute fake TKO title when there's no you know all

1603
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 2: that you mix in the pay structure. I interviewed Eddie

1604
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: Hern on my YouTube channel. It's going to come out

1605
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: in the next twenty four hours. He specifically said two

1606
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 2: key things. He said. One I asked him, I said, look, Eddie,

1607
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: when do you know it's the time's up with Turkey?

1608
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: What is there a stop and start date that's been

1609
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 2: announced to you that says this is when TKO's taking

1610
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: over and doing the four Netflix cards a year and

1611
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: they're going to be the focus, and Eddie said, I

1612
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: don't think there is an end date. He goes, I

1613
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: think we're we and the other promoters I work with

1614
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: Turkey are are just going to continue to be working

1615
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: with Turkey. And then I specifically say, well what about

1616
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: TKO boxing in there, and he's like, look, I don't

1617
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: think it's gonna work. Look at that pay structure, look

1618
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: at the reputation, look at all of that. So he

1619
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: was very aggressive. Now he's a rival of them, so

1620
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: of course he could kind of say that's just like

1621
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: he's been saying publicly, I'm the best promoter in the world.

1622
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: I don't need Turkey should he decide to not work

1623
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 2: with me. But he was matter of fact that there's

1624
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: no end in sight and he doesn't think there's going

1625
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: to be an end insight. Does that just mean he

1626
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: doesn't believe take TKO will work? But look, I just

1627
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 2: think it was naive back in twenty seventeen when Dana

1628
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: talked about coming in because the one good thing Turkey

1629
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 2: has done obviously he's given out money to everybody.

1630
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,839
Speaker 1: More than they're used to, so they can't say they've.

1631
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: Been like, here, take our you know, do our matchmaking whatever.

1632
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: But he has, to his credit, unified the sport in

1633
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, made people work together. Who don't

1634
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: you have see from the beginning TKO boxing the model

1635
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: was the exact opposite. We will work with nobody and

1636
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 2: we will come in and take over at all. We

1637
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: will you know, print our own money, we will make

1638
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: our own belt, we will be all of that. We

1639
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 2: will try to change the ALI act. Boxing is just

1640
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: not going to bend over for that. So what have

1641
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: I been saying for months as we constantly try to

1642
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: figure this out. There's two business models at once. There's

1643
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: the potential for four big fight nights a year on

1644
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,879
Speaker 2: Netflix mixed with the Prospect League. But how do they

1645
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 2: merge those One is a five to ten to fifteen

1646
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 2: year plan. How do you mix those together without having

1647
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 2: stables of active, meaningful fighters.

1648
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: Who's going to cross that quote.

1649
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 2: Unquote pickup line to come be TKO exclusive if there's

1650
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: no big name fighters fully attached to that, and will

1651
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: the existing promoters actually be willing to put their fighters

1652
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: on cards promoted by TKO? And more importantly now with

1653
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: this change in development, is our TKO and Turkey at odds.

1654
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: For good that's something. Let me ask your opinion. Do

1655
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,879
Speaker 1: you feel like Data and Turkey are beefing?

1656
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: Yes? But I also feel like something happened there with Netflix.

1657
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: Why Turkey suddenly took control of the announcements and switched

1658
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: it up and said we're off Friday night, which means

1659
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: you're off Netflix. As far as what everybody's concerned, we

1660
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: already no allegied stadium is not booked, is pre booked

1661
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: for Saturday and Sunday for football. So yeah, I mean,

1662
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 2: we've heard nothing from the UFC. Even Boxing seem to

1663
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 2: put out a new report from Lance Pugmyer overnight. That

1664
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to suggest that this is all a lie.

1665
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 2: It seems to suggest that there's enough smoke here to

1666
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 2: show us that we're not going to be on Netflix

1667
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: for this fight in Turkey. Saying Selah is going to

1668
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: promote it. That doesn't That doesn't seem to involve Dana

1669
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: in TKO, who doesn't who currently don't have by the way,

1670
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: and neither does no. Sorry, it's Sela who currently doesn't

1671
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 2: have a promoter's license, but they could get it, or

1672
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: they could partner with Eddie Hearn or Tom Loffler whoever.

1673
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: They wanted to.

1674
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: I mean, we could be proven wrong here and maybe

1675
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: this would expose the ring putting out misinformation. But you

1676
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 2: have to smell this, you have to see this smoke

1677
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 2: and realize that the fire has to be Dana and

1678
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: Turkey not on the same I.

1679
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: Just think I was trying to explain this to my wife.

1680
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: It seems like real bad that they would make these

1681
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: announcements and then within less than a couple of weeks

1682
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: roll everything that they just told us was going to

1683
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: happen back.

1684
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: That's styled it. That's his style, okay, but.

1685
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: That's his style when he's the one, and I guess

1686
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: he is still the one calling the shots. But I'm saying,

1687
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: if you're going to be using the TKO Dana White imprimature,

1688
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 1: then that you would imagine that there was some power sharing.

1689
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: But it sounds like there's not. And I mean, this

1690
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: is the interurt part about TKOBC. They're not putting any

1691
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: money up. They're not putting any money up, so.

1692
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: They're not going to fight for it.

1693
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing that's that's right if if if

1694
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: if relations stay bad, and I don't know if they will,

1695
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: maybe it's just a one off and they write the ship.

1696
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: But it allows them to cut bait much easier. It

1697
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: allows them to be like, you know what, we don't

1698
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 1: that this is not fine. We're going We're gonna stick

1699
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 1: with our core business. And by the way, we should

1700
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: remind folks there's a whole other conversation to be had

1701
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: that it's smaller. But TKO is trying to take over

1702
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: a professional grap as well. Craig Jones. Craig Jones has

1703
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: been sounding the alarm. Understand fight pass invitational contracts, ready

1704
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: for this, Ready, there's a show money. So let's just

1705
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to imagine something five thousand and not win

1706
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: only if you submit. There's there're somehow worse than MMA contracts.

1707
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that? Can you imagine that? So all

1708
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: that is happening simultaneously. And I suspect that they'll have

1709
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: a lot of success in the grappling world, because you know,

1710
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: I don't think athletes think about these things. It's not

1711
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: a fully developed sport, but in boxing it is a

1712
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: fully developed sport. And it's a little harder to say

1713
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,879
Speaker 1: it's one thing to take both tasks BC are difficult,

1714
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: but it is harder, or I should say They're hard

1715
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,520
Speaker 1: in different ways to take over and develop a sport

1716
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: that has no federal regulation but is also not known

1717
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: to the public, versus there's a fully fleshed out universe

1718
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: and we're going to come and take over that one.

1719
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: Neither can be easy, but uh, I don't know. I

1720
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: don't know if one is. I don't know if TKO

1721
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: was equally suited for both.

1722
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: I mean that way think about it. Dana was supposed

1723
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: to be the brains behind this in a lot of ways.

1724
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: You know, Nik con the financial sides, Dana on the

1725
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: production roll outside, he hates brand gestures, stadium type shows

1726
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: that Turkey loves to make those statements with He criticized

1727
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 2: publicly Turkey's plans by ripping the stadium idea. I think

1728
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: also remember Turkey tweeted out a while ago after their

1729
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 2: announcement that I'm going to leave all the announcements moving

1730
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 2: forward to Dana. He's the boss moving forward. Well that changed, right,

1731
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: that changed that Canelo school when suddenly Turkey's just rolling

1732
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: out the fighters. I think we were naive to just assume,

1733
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: based on past success, that they would have this level

1734
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: of success within boxing, and I think we can start

1735
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 2: looking at the read says an Era of the past

1736
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: year and a half and say, without question, Turkey has

1737
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,879
Speaker 2: given some very big fights that would have been difficult

1738
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: for He also has raised up the expectations I think

1739
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 2: of the grandness, the royal regalness of the sport that

1740
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: can still happen. You can still put some lipstick on

1741
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 2: this pig, and he's shown us how you can do

1742
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: that from big red carpet galas. Whether you care about

1743
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,799
Speaker 2: that or not to you know, big movie trailer premieres

1744
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: ahead of these fights. But think about what he's actually done.

1745
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: He hasn't brought boxing to the masses. Everything he's done

1746
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: he's put on the zone pay per view for the

1747
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: most part, which is especially in the States is only

1748
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 2: is only the most hardcore boxing fans have access to that.

1749
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: So for all this money that was spent on changing boxing,

1750
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 2: and yeah, he made a lot of people within boxing happy.

1751
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 2: Remember at that Crawford fightal they inducted him honorarily into

1752
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: the Nevada Hall of Fame. Just but so like, but

1753
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 2: outside the sport, it's not like the Times Square card

1754
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: was was on you know, national television. This is like

1755
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: a lot of money spent to make some big flexes,

1756
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 2: but what has this done to.

1757
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: Advance the sport or advance his plans? So Luke like

1758
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: that money is.

1759
01:17:55,320 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: Not indefinite behind him coming from the Saudi government. I

1760
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 2: wonder if the the bacle that was the Times Square

1761
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 2: slash Canelo School Weekend maybe maybe hurt their chances of

1762
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 2: what they thought was a no brainer getting Netflix involved

1763
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: for big time money in a Canelo Crawford one.

1764
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: I just think it sends a weird I get a

1765
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: weird vibe when they say Dana White's the guy in

1766
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: charge and then two weeks later, no, he's not.

1767
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 5: Yes.

1768
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: That to me, it just it's just never happened.

1769
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: Was not gonna take that shit.

1770
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: I've watched a million Dana White deals get signed over

1771
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: the course of almost twenty years. I don't think I've

1772
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: ever seen one go like that.

1773
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: I mean, we ever seen exceptional mbitious greed here.

1774
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: Exceptional one would be the boxing show that he had

1775
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: on Discovery that they canceled after a couple of EPs, fine,

1776
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: or one episode. Fine, but that's TV. They can just

1777
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: they can call it to day whatever they didn't like it.

1778
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: That's TV. This to me feels different, and I don't

1779
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,440
Speaker 1: know what it means long term, but I was shocked

1780
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: to see this development.

1781
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 2: I no longer believe the Turkey will be in this

1782
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 2: sport in two years.

1783
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a big claim, I do. I yeah, I

1784
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: think you will be twenty twenty seven.

1785
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, without buying a promotion.

1786
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: Or without like he says he won't buy one. Okay,

1787
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: but when does he begin to make money? I don't

1788
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: know the answer to that.

1789
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: TKO at least knowing how they're proven history of bringing

1790
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 2: down the prices that they spend while they raise up

1791
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: the amount of money that they make, like that could

1792
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: have worked partnership wise, but if you had the fighters.

1793
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 2: They haven't proven yet that they have the fighters in

1794
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,440
Speaker 2: a in a concrete on contract type of way. And

1795
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: in boxing, I think for as disloyal boxing acts, ask

1796
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 2: the big players involved to each other. I think people

1797
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,879
Speaker 2: are loyal to the sport, and I don't think they're going.

1798
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: To I don't know.

1799
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: I just I feel like the winds have changed. That's

1800
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: what I feel like from the from the happening, I

1801
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 2: think the TKO and Turkey thought it was going to

1802
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: be automatic. They thought they just continue that success and

1803
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: continue to land grab and take over. Something happened here

1804
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 2: a big time behind the scenes that has put that

1805
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: relationship at jeopardy. You have to believe that it's interesting stuff.

1806
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: It's it's the I can't wait to see what happens.

1807
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I couldn't believe this development, but I guess

1808
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: we'll see.

1809
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you do have to question, like, is

1810
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: is this just an I'll croft a great idea, but

1811
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: is it? Is it the right build up? Is the

1812
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 2: right set of circumstances that are setting it up? It

1813
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: would have been if this talk happened in late twenty

1814
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 2: three after Crawford took out spends.

1815
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: So like the way that Dana and Turkey originally were

1816
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: in business together, which is where like you know, reat

1817
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: Season would sponsor the note card at the Sphere or whatever,

1818
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 1: or you know, they would they would take a show

1819
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: to the Saudi Arabia and stuff like that, Like you

1820
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: know that's like, oh, Turkey, we'll take your money and

1821
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: we'll take your branding and we'll dig it up. But

1822
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: this is our show and we're going to control it.

1823
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: They have that relationship with every single partner they have.

1824
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 2: They control the show, they control ESPN, they editorially control

1825
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 2: everything how do you get you see editorially controls everything

1826
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: that appears.

1827
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: How do you keep that relationship when that's no longer

1828
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: in play? I don't know.

1829
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: I don't think Netflix is just going to bend over

1830
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 2: it like everyone else does in combat when somebody else

1831
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: has more your status and be like, oh, do what

1832
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: you want, here's the money. No, like they seem to

1833
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: only want to be in the type of really big

1834
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: events that move cultures, bringing casual fans. Now. Look, I

1835
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: like that they're making this movement into women's boxing based

1836
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: off of the viewership that Taylor Serrano two got on

1837
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: that Mike Tyson, Jake paulcard This is I think it's

1838
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: a good direction, a good move, But I don't know

1839
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: if this is going to be gangbusters for them viewer

1840
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,799
Speaker 2: wise and would lead to consistent boy. I mean, somebody's

1841
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: gonna is there is there is there going to be

1842
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: a home for boxing on Netflix in your eyes? Or

1843
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: is it only going to be for one night going

1844
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: out of business? Real big crossovers.

1845
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: I would say that.

1846
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 2: Because that's the only thing that circumvents the divide between

1847
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: regular cable and streaming. Yeah, you put it on Netflix,

1848
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna see everybod's gonna see it.

1849
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, well, I was asking you before the show.

1850
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: Someone told me that WWE has seen no growth whatsoever

1851
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: in their audience by going to Netflix. So how true

1852
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: is that. I don't know how true that is. What

1853
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: I can say is, to the extent you can bring them.

1854
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be big as Paul Tyson, which

1855
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: is obviously enormous, but to the extent you can bring

1856
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: them something that's an event. Yeah, Netflix will be in

1857
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: the boxing business.

1858
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: But short of that, no, don't deep inside as a fan,

1859
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: do you feel like you want your UFC back, Like maybe,

1860
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: like maybe TKO is the worst thing to happen to

1861
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 2: combat sports since like CTE.

1862
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: It took a while for me to really because when

1863
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: when Wim took over or Endeavor took over, it still

1864
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: felt pretty similar for a long time. And again they

1865
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: were hot during the pandemic or big portions of it anyway,

1866
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: But now it feels soulless and Dana White like skipping

1867
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: post fight pressors, which dude Dana used to like look

1868
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: forward to sparring with the media, far from like just

1869
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have time for it anymore, like

1870
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: he used to look forward to, like you know, I'm

1871
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: gonna tell everyone what time it is, and and that

1872
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: was like again, he was a bulldog for the brand

1873
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: for better for worse, a bulldog. I don't know. I

1874
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: don't mean I used the bulldog.

1875
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: I don't know who that is in boxing, that they're

1876
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 2: going to create a soulless product that takes advantage of

1877
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 2: the fighters and changes legislature based on me.

1878
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: They were talking about putting Tao Fema Lopez versus Jeron series,

1879
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: which they might not even make the fight, but if

1880
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: they make it, they're gonna put it in Saudi Arabia. Dude,

1881
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: what the fuck is that? What is that?

1882
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: That's Look, this was a wild run. We had a

1883
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,799
Speaker 2: we had a fun ride. Obviously it's not over. Turkey's

1884
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: continuing to add things and try to do more things.

1885
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: I just think emotionally, I'm kind of I'm kind of

1886
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: done with this era for boxing, the Turkey slash Tko era.

1887
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 1: I think you're done. I don't know if boxing's done

1888
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: with him.

1889
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the year before Turkey twenty twenty three was

1890
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 2: red hot.

1891
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: One of the best years of boxing in maybe a decade.

1892
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of money that year I was

1893
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't make that same money anymore, but shout out

1894
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: to those days.

1895
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: I've a good I mean a pretty coin that year.

1896
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, Hey, let's go to topic number five,

1897
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: and this is good news for the UFC PATCHI Mix

1898
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: is here officially, showed up at Saturday's fight Night card

1899
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: at the Apex, met with the media, and now we

1900
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 2: know for official he has signed a deal with the

1901
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: UFC after PFL released him, and now we've got an

1902
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,520
Speaker 2: opponent as he is. Yet he's gonna face Mario Bautista

1903
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: as a late replacement at UFC three sixteen in just

1904
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 2: a couple weeks in Newark, New Jersey, June seventh. So, Luke,

1905
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: how much does Mix have to prove in your eyes?

1906
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 2: He remember a year and a half ago he was

1907
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: one of the most red hot fighters in the world.

1908
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: He's been cooled off a bit with that one fight

1909
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 2: in peak PFL, the rematch with mag Malgametov. How much

1910
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: does this specific matchup against a tough Mario Bartista mean

1911
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 2: to his UFC future? Here, because this is a hell

1912
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: of a signing to fall into your lap at the moment.

1913
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think on some level, he It's weird,

1914
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: right because in terms of being thirty two and needing

1915
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: to make a splash and move to the front, the

1916
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: clock is ticking a little bit. I don't think he's

1917
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: getting old, but he did miss a portion of his

1918
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: prime just kind of fucking about waiting for PFL to

1919
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: get their act together. On the other hand, he's kind

1920
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: of playing with house money here, BC, Bautista not well liked,

1921
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: Patchi Mix, not well known to the casual fan, the

1922
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: hardcores know who he is, but he has the opportunity

1923
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: here to make a gigantic splash and then I think

1924
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: honestly rocket to the front of this division. And what's

1925
01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: kind of interesting is for folks who don't know, we

1926
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: had actual Mix on this show, but he's discussed in

1927
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: other places. I and Morob have trained extensively together. They

1928
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: have a very friendly relationship. But he's not opposed whatsoever

1929
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: to fighting Morob if it comes down to it. So, BC,

1930
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: you've got a guy in your UFC debut who to me,

1931
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: people are sleeping on Mario Batista a little bit. I

1932
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: actually think he's not. He's limited but tough in certain ways.

1933
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: And to your point, Patchy Mix did not look, the

1934
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: guy who won the Strikeforce bansomwa Strikeforce Jesus, the guy

1935
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: who won the Bellatore excuse me, Bansomweight Grand Prix. I

1936
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: think that guy could beat any bansomweight in the world.

1937
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: But then he should have against Mega Manov in the

1938
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: rematch and looked like not a great version of that.

1939
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: So I don't really know where. We haven't seen him since,

1940
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: so I don't really know where he is. It's not

1941
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: about proving anything to the hardcores, because that's kind of

1942
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: a it's not really of a relevant concern. It's a

1943
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: question of introducing himself to the casuals, winning over the matchmakers,

1944
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: winning over UFC management. And he's got an absolutely a

1945
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: plus golden opportunity you wanted to fight Boom, it's fallen

1946
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 1: in your lap immediately against the guy the fans basically

1947
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 1: don't like in a division where they're hungry for a contender.

1948
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, there's a storyline built in

1949
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: with the guy who will probably remain and it currently

1950
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: serves anyway as the existing champion. And by the way,

1951
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: if O'Malley wins that one and Mix beats Bautista, yes,

1952
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: I would favor Mixed to win against Sean O'Malley because

1953
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: his ability to find the back is extraordinary. BC. This

1954
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: kid has the opportunity thirty two, but he has an

1955
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,759
Speaker 1: opportunity to do something huge for himself at UFC three sixteen.

1956
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for him and Bautista's thirty one. He

1957
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: is riding a seven fight win streak. With that split

1958
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: decision went over Joseialdo it almost feel like it was

1959
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 2: worse than a defeat would have been to set back

1960
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: his stock. Obviously, if he gets a win over Patchy

1961
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: mixing the debut here and extends that win streak to eight,

1962
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: Bautista will advance himself.

1963
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is great.

1964
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give you see a lot of credit

1965
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 2: the recent free agents that have come in. They've put

1966
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 2: him into fights right away. They're giving RDR a path

1967
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: to the top here now three wins in six months.

1968
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 2: He's got Whitaker coming up. Even though Pitbull lost and

1969
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: didn't look great in that fight, we were talking maybe

1970
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 2: he can get a title shot off of that win

1971
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 2: in his debut that he lost there. Tia Rodriguez also

1972
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 2: Kayas Sakara debuted in the title fight. So I like

1973
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: this aggressiveness from UFC to to show respect to these

1974
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 2: guys that are coming in from other organizations that are

1975
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: established and inserting them right into the mix. So as

1976
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: we look at BANDONM weight at the moment, where will

1977
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: mech will will Mix ultimately fit in in this division?

1978
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: I mean, can can he get two wins? Is he

1979
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: two wins away from a title?

1980
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: I think he's less than that. I think he could

1981
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: get a win and move damn, depending how it goes.

1982
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: If he goes in there and does to Bautista what

1983
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: he did to I don't know, ralphiel On Statz, Yeah,

1984
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1985
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: If you caught Don Davis's latest LinkedIn post, it was

1986
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: about how his success as an entrepreneur has become has

1987
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 2: been directly in relation to his positivity and right now,

1988
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: you know it's so negative on on like you know,

1989
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 2: social media, which is true and he's not wrong about that.

1990
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: But I like to stay positive done just the same

1991
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: as you. I also like to keep my assets and

1992
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 2: use them to get me ahead.

1993
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Right there.

1994
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 2: Damn, I mean, I'm.

1995
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: Happy, how bad you may, dude? What let me ask

1996
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: a serious question, BC, looking back on it, what the

1997
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: fuck was the point of the Belt or acquisition to

1998
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: Inroads in Europe. That's it, Inroads in Europe.

1999
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 4: Someone asked me this and they said, given all the

2000
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 4: talent they've went away, what was the point, uh, to

2001
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 4: get rid of competition? So they're the clear number two.

2002
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: But they would have faded anyway.

2003
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 2: They were looking for a seller to add to their tournament.

2004
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: Tournament depth of available bodies like that was also.

2005
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 3: Part of it.

2006
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 5: I'm sure.

2007
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: Could have found those anywhere. What did what did paying

2008
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 1: for all of that? Oh, I'm not saying that they

2009
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: knew what they were doing or how to plan.

2010
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: I mean the biggest they didn't.

2011
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 4: Pay for shit, right, They got it all in stock

2012
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 4: options or something.

2013
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean they didn't come up off cash, but

2014
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 1: they they wasn't handed them for free.

2015
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 2: He has not used that brand to help him. I

2016
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 2: liked that first pay per view when they did PFL

2017
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: versus beltar Cool Idea. It was fun.

2018
01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: Whatever.

2019
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: There's been a couple of good fights or opportunities, but

2020
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 2: they're not inserting the military fighters into their biggest profile opportunity.

2021
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean putting Johnny Evelin and Dakota Ditcheva in South

2022
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:10,919
Speaker 1: fucking Africa.

2023
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 2: Well, the way I called home to my parents on

2024
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 2: Mother's Day and I talked to my dad for five minutes.

2025
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Four minutes of that conversation he brought it up was

2026
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 2: about Dakota ditsh.

2027
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, dude, Are you and your dad the

2028
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 1: horniest men alive?

2029
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, but this is the true fact that

2030
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 2: did happen. Wow, Okay, thanks Dad, But yeah, what are

2031
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 2: we doing here? Pfl? Would it be crazy? I mean,

2032
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 2: what is the you think one win for PATCHI? One

2033
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 2: big win here could open up the door Who's next?

2034
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: If Morob wins, who's next?

2035
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: Corey is probably next? Okay, so they could maybe do

2036
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 1: another one after this. But I'm just saying he could catapult.

2037
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: Let's just say this, with a big win over Bautista,

2038
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: he could catapult huge amounts.

2039
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: It was more likely in his marriage bed to win

2040
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 2: a UFC title first. At this moment, Patricks, you think

2041
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 2: Swatz comes back because that was a disappointing title loss.

2042
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: We it's gonna be tough. Gonna be tough.

2043
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: Okay, well, good news for their household. It's just the

2044
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 2: same right there. Shout out to PATCHI mixed. Oh we

2045
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 2: have we have, we have some sound from him. Yeah's here.

2046
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 9: I'm not afraid of anyone in this division, especially Mario Bautistas.

2047
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 9: So he's on a seven fight win streak, and I

2048
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 9: want that seven fight win streak. So when they called me,

2049
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 9: I answered it, and I'll make weight and I'll get

2050
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 9: the job done. So you know, it didn't matter who.

2051
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 9: I didn't mind if he was ringing number one or

2052
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 9: number fifty. I would have went against the best, the hardest,

2053
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 9: the guy that they didn't want, you know, anyone to fight.

2054
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 9: It didn't matter. So it had it happened to be him,

2055
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 9: and I think Cheeto Vera popped his river or some

2056
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,560
Speaker 9: They called me. Within like an hour or two, I

2057
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 9: was like, hell yeah, Within like a day, I think

2058
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,560
Speaker 9: it was getting made. So you know, I'm already a

2059
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,759
Speaker 9: multi time world champion. I'm twenty and one with sixteen finishes.

2060
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 9: I got more finishes in a better record than every

2061
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 9: single guy ranked right now. You know, I'm already a

2062
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 9: multi time world champion that's beaten the who's who, very

2063
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 9: good names in MMA. So I plan to win this

2064
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 9: fight and I expect to be at the top of

2065
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 9: the division. Whether it's a title fight next, I don't know.

2066
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 9: But I don't mind what it is, you know, as

2067
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 9: long as.

2068
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 1: It's a step up.

2069
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 9: You know, I plan to be successful against Mario Bautist,

2070
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 9: Mario Bautista, and then move forward, you know, hopefully the

2071
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 9: top five, top three. You know, I don't fear any man,

2072
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 9: so any of them are fine.

2073
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 1: We got high with Pat. We did indirectly. I mean

2074
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: we didn't mean to, but we did.

2075
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 2: And I stopped him and I was like, tap that

2076
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 2: motherfucking ass, and he.

2077
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Was like, you did. Yeah, we were. We were at

2078
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: high Rollers and there was I cannot overstate to you

2079
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: the amount of marijuana smoke in that place. Wow.

2080
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 2: So dude, the way that he rolled through that Belator tournament,

2081
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 2: the names that he picked off one after another and

2082
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 2: submitted the shit out of them, does he have the

2083
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 2: BJJ size and demeanor to do that same thing to

2084
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 2: a lot of the top ten of Panama? Should we

2085
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 2: be shocked if he does?

2086
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: We should not be shocked if he does. Again, he's

2087
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: got something to prove here a little bit in terms

2088
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 1: of the folks paying attention to his career. That run

2089
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 1: to the tournament was absolutely magical. It was one of

2090
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: the best runs to a tournament I've ever seen an

2091
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,799
Speaker 1: MMA fighter do not the best, but one of them certainly,

2092
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: and then the follow up was just very flat. So

2093
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: there's some big questions to answer, honestly, but the fact

2094
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: that the casual fan doesn't know him means he doesn't

2095
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: have so much to live up to. It's just about

2096
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: what's available to be grabbed. And there's quite a bit

2097
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: there loosely related.

2098
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: To mix is PFL kind of maybe they're hearing the criticism.

2099
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 2: They have an upcoming tournament semi final card, but they're

2100
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 2: going to add an individual special attraction.

2101
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 1: Bout oh fight though.

2102
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: Though our teammates Sergio Pettis and On Statt, who we love.

2103
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: Very good fight, he very good fight.

2104
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 2: But it's like they've been sitting on the shelf doing nothing.

2105
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 2: I would have liked to see them inserted into the

2106
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 2: tournaments or into something. This fight is worthless though, It's

2107
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 2: it's just an attraction fight.

2108
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: It's just well, it's better than just having Donerson versus

2109
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: Rick Rickerson in the tournament, putting a couple of names

2110
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: on there and making it a crown jewel. Now they

2111
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: should have done it for a title fight. They should

2112
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: have had Eblin fight there or they should have had

2113
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: to go to fight there. Whatever. As long as they're

2114
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 1: making moves in the right direction, I'm generally supportive of it.

2115
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, you could have done this

2116
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: a few years ago.

2117
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean, my dad knew everything about Dakota.

2118
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: That's a little alarming. He was like, I watched every

2119
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: single fight in a row.

2120
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: I know about her mind.

2121
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 1: We talk about Long Island's dad's ball bag, but maybe

2122
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: the more interesting ballbag is your own.

2123
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: I don't think we can talk about that any further there,

2124
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,719
Speaker 2: but that was an interesting life development.

2125
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Dad, that's it's cool. All right, that's great. Those

2126
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: are our five. I can assure you that is not

2127
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: what my dad talks to me about. When we talk

2128
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,839
Speaker 1: on the we talk about like world markets and stocks

2129
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: and uh, he does talk about things like that, not

2130
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: so much the economy per se. But you know, the

2131
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 1: history of the Peloponnesian War was the conversation yesterday.

2132
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peloponnesian What is it? Who is involved in that?

2133
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: I encourage you to go read a book the Peloponnesian War,

2134
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,759
Speaker 1: read about the potations you see.

2135
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 2: The Peloponnesian War. Am I supposed to be like right

2136
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 2: off the tip of my tongue.

2137
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Have no not for I'm reading a book. You're gonna

2138
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: laugh at me. I'm reading a book by this history

2139
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 1: professor at Stanford on the nature of revolutions, and the

2140
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: central thesis of the book is that through much of

2141
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: human history, revolutions were considered to be a dangerous, bad

2142
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: thing for society. But that all changed right around the

2143
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: time of the French Revolution because a theory of history

2144
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: began to get put forward at that time, which is

2145
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: that history is inexorably aggressive, like over time it gets better,

2146
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: and then revolutions become a latter four progress. They become

2147
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: something you see people lead into it, not just from

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Speaker 1: the Western minds. I told a Homnim when he talks

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Speaker 1: about the seventy non revolution in Iran leans into a

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Speaker 1: positive vision of the future. Through revolution, it's all changed.

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Speaker 1: And I was talking about some of the ancient Greek

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Speaker 1: and Roman thought and history that went into it. And

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Speaker 1: then my dad goes into a part about the Peloponnesian War.

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Speaker 2: Yeah from four oh four BC. Yeah, oh, you guys

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Speaker 2: are get you guys get interesting. I mean, we couldn't

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Speaker 2: be more.

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Speaker 1: Different in what we talked to I'm horny for fighters.

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Speaker 2: Although he lives in Florida, he doesn't want.

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Speaker 1: To have sex with the fires.

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Speaker 2: Those are our five topics now now though we hear

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Speaker 2: from the fan first and foremost. You can reach us

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01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 2: if you want to reach out to the show at

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat at Gmail. I'm sorry, Morning Coombat at gmail

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01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 2: dot com for Friday's fan subs, dead wrongs, and just

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Speaker 2: in general if you want to show my your pack,

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Speaker 2: I mean no, no. If you you know you want

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01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 2: to complain about the show. But this is a segment

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Speaker 2: we do where every Sunday night at Morning Combat on Instagram,

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01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: on x we reach out to the fans and say,

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Speaker 2: ask us, ask us anything, you can put it anywhere.

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Speaker 2: This is called dms from donks.

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Speaker 1: Oh there it is.

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Speaker 2: All right. I have not read these, Luke fire here,

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Speaker 2: let's see who's the first question? From maybe dads? No

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Speaker 2: from Sam Lebun. Why are there no celebrity power slap matchups?

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01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 2: So much potential to manufacture beefs between be and SEALSS

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Speaker 2: celebs and then slap it out?

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Speaker 1: Is that? I mean, yeah, but you d it's a

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Speaker 1: real sport. He's presenting it as a real Also, if

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Speaker 1: you're a B and C list you can just do

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01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 1: like a meet and greet and probably make as much

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Speaker 1: or more than you would one of these like dumb

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Speaker 1: fuck slapping contents.

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Speaker 2: They've also signed some like independent wrestlers to slap as well.

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Speaker 1: How much is it into it as an indie wrestler

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Speaker 1: make in a year? I mean that that makes a

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Speaker 1: little bit more sense. They've got personality and they don't

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Speaker 1: make much right right exactly, But be a B list celebrity, dude,

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Speaker 1: A B list celebrity can I mean were you can

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Speaker 1: still make a fair amount of good money. We always

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01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 1: talk about it, like who was a Colt McCoy backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. The motherfucker made almost fifty million

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01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: dollars not doing jack shit a B list guy and

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01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: as a celebrity, a C list guy like, you can

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Speaker 1: make good money doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gross, this is you can do it well.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Cold McCoy's not going to slap anybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm pointing out, like you need if reality show drug addicts,

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Speaker 1: that's what you like.

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Speaker 4: Jersey shorecast, I was gonna.

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Speaker 1: Say DJ pauly d dude, he makes good money, Why

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Speaker 1: the fuck would he go into a slapping correct, we would.

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01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 2: Need someone much much worse off, you know.

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Speaker 4: Like I think the question though is posing, like, regardless

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Speaker 4: of if DJ poly D is making money, would you

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Speaker 4: watch power Slap if it was DJ poly D getting slap.

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01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: I'd rather get I rather think I would. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: get fucked to death by an addict Walruss.

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Speaker 4: You would prefer that over a lot of things. It's

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Speaker 4: actually kind of questionable.

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Speaker 2: I hate power Slap. But let's go to our next question.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the Australian thing Maybe it's run it Yeah,

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01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: where they run at each other, drill no pads.

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Speaker 2: That best the best event in American gladiators, remember Breakthrough

2215
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 2: and Conquer. You have to run with a football through

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01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 2: the other and then the conquer partners you get in

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01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 2: the wrestling ring you got to push them out.

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01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: Yea.

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01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 2: That running thing was always awesome because it was like

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Speaker 2: real contact and no pads for the most part.

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Speaker 1: But uh, this is t T It's amazing. These guys

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Speaker 1: will like get knocked out and then they'll do like

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01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 1: the fencing post, you know, where their fingers are all

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01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: fucked up like tua, and then the whole crowd around

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01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 1: them will like surround and be like, oh bitch, you

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01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,759
Speaker 1: got knocked out. I'm like, this guy has severe brain damage.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck are you doing?

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01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what putwer. Slap needs more intense celebrations like

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01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 2: tea bag and somebody if they're out cold.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. If the conversation is what's better? Now,

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01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: they're both insanely stupid and dangerous. But if the conversations

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Speaker 1: what's better slap or run it? Dude, run it is

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01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: much more exciting, much more exciting, probably more dangerous, much

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Speaker 1: more dangerous too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Next question from the people this is

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Speaker 2: that Eric Bolden. He says, would you rather have a

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01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 2: fight card basically ever week like they do now or

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Speaker 2: go back to the twenty ten days where they held

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Speaker 2: twenty four fight cards?

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Speaker 1: What would be better for MK?

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Speaker 2: Better fight cards but spaces out or weekly cards.

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01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: It's a hard conversation to have because MK is based

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01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: off of the calendar that exists. Yes, if you change

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01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: the calendar, we would have to change MK to some

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01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: extent to follow that. That would be a lot goofier.

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01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah and gimmicky. Here's what I would say. Here's what

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Speaker 1: I would say. I would be okay, with the UFC

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Speaker 1: dialing back to high thirties, mid low thirties, maybe mid thirties,

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Speaker 1: somewhere around thirty three thirty four or somewhere around that

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Speaker 1: in terms of annual events. But with one caveat BC

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Speaker 1: that there'd be enough of an MMA economy beyond them

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01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 1: where on some of those other weekends where for example,

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Speaker 1: back with the time at this time twenty ten, if

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Speaker 1: UFC didn't have an event on that weekend, Strikeforce might have.

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Speaker 2: Right, and it would give our attention to that, and

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Speaker 2: you would give.

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Speaker 1: Our attention to it. It would be a little bit

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01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 1: all over the place, and you could decide, you know,

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01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: if that was worth your time. But like just going

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Speaker 1: back to and now we're just gonna I'm gonna make

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Speaker 1: up something. Now we're gonna have thirty events, But then

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Speaker 1: there's no corresponding uptick on Saturdays from the rest of

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Speaker 1: the MMA economy. That doesn't really serve our interest either.

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Speaker 1: So it's about it's not like it's not that I

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Speaker 1: mind MMA being on every weekend. It's I mind one

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Speaker 1: dominant brand being the only thing on every weekend.

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Speaker 2: And the fight night quality of the main events car

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Speaker 2: events exactly well, Sarah Luke would say, you're insulted.

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Speaker 1: I was looking up this card. Hold on just one second,

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Speaker 1: because I'm holding on.

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01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? This Blanchfield car coming up?

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01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 3: No?

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01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 7: No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: So I was looking up at the time. I was

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01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 1: looking up this Strikeforce card because I was I was

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01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:40,560
Speaker 1: trying to find out when this takes place. I was

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Speaker 1: looking up for the rankings, right, so I got this card.

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01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you who was on this FN thing.

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01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable. Who was on this Hold on just

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01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 1: one second. Let me pull this up here.

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01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Would you go through the Big Lady on Wilson Phillips

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01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 2: to get to China?

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01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: I okay, that's a lot you just put on my plate.

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01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about it. So here's

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say. This was the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand

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Speaker 1: pre semi Final. This took place September tenth, Cincinnati, Ohio.

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01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Was on Showtime. Listen to this card. This was a

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01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 1: Strikeforce card. Okay Josh Barnett versus Serge Heratanov, Great fight

2289
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Pormier Bigfoot, Okay, Luke Rockhole Jakaray for the title. Great

2290
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: fight Okay, King mo versus Hodre Gracie Hodre Gracie arguably

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01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,560
Speaker 1: the best GI grappler of all time, not arguably the

2292
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 1: best gee grappler of all time. Pat Healy versus Maximo Blanco.

2293
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: Maximo Blanco was a wild man. Pat he Lee vought Habib.

2294
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: Mike Kyle versus Listen to this Marcos Jujerio Delima, who's

2295
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: still fucking fighting to this day. Mike Kyle won that one.

2296
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: By the way, Jol Romero loses to Feijao Halfi al Cavalcanti.

2297
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: He gets stopped inside the first second round. Excuse me

2298
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: of that contest. Jordan me and versus cyborg Santos Alexis

2299
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: Davis beat Amanda Neunez on this car and then another one,

2300
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: dominiqu Steele versus Chris I can't pronounce the other guy's name.

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01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 1: The last one doesn't count, dude. That was a strikeforce

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Speaker 1: fucking card. This is what I'm talking about when we

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01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 1: have like a for MMA offerings to enjoy.

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01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one.

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01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: That is yeah, I want my combat sports back. I

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01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,879
Speaker 1: want that That was you know again, you don't you don't.

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01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 2: Have to start fighting for our combat sports.

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01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: Or just throwing in the towel and doing something else. Yeah,

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01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:19,440
Speaker 1: getting into political punditry. Pornography is really what I'm thinking about.

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01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 2: All the piece covered. You got any more of them

2311
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 2: jams from the people. This is from at tv gc

2312
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 2: MMA views on Seila promoting Crawford and Canelo not TKO

2313
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 2: And do you think this was always the one and

2314
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 2: use TKO for attention or because Dana said doesn't like stams.

2315
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 2: We had a whole topic built upon this.

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01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of went over this one.

2317
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 2: We need quality control on these. Sorry, tv g C MMA.

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01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 2: You already heard, right, you already heard, I mean heard

2319
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 2: you got any more of these jams? At flannels and JITs?

2320
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 2: We like this guy like you know, he's he rolls.

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01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: This guy he competes, he's a computer.

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01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: Does he win?

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01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great This guy seem be a good

2324
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 2: dude with Jose although now retired, and he did say

2325
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 2: publicly Jose did that here was there's not a UFC fight.

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01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 2: He would come back.

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01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: He did come back yesterday as a matter of fact.

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01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your favorite King of he O fight

2329
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,639
Speaker 2: or memory? And then second question what is his mm

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01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 2: A legacy?

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01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I have two? May I share? I would love it

2332
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: so really three, because I the guy who he beat

2333
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: in his WC debut, p Keno Naghera had a big

2334
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 1: reputation for having a fierce skeatine and Aldo beat the

2335
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 1: living fuck out of him, and that was an eye opener.

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01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: But the two big ones were I was actually with

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01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: my then girlfriend now wife at the time. We were

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01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 1: at her place when he beat Mike Brown. Yes, and

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01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: I did think he was going to beat Mike Brown.

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01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: But Mike people will look at Mike Brown's career who

2341
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: didn't live through it and be like, what was so

2342
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: special about it? Motherfucker. He was dominant, he was very,

2343
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: very good. He destroyed all the wc's plans to promote

2344
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: your Ryah Faber. And then he has the belt and

2345
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: Aldo went in there and toyed with him. I couldn't believe.

2346
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 2: Would you say it was Silva Libin style going.

2347
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 1: Different because he it was more of a positional control

2348
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: on the ground. But like you know, Mike Brown was

2349
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 1: known for his physical strength and Aldo man and handled him.

2350
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. And then the other one was

2351
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: his first fight with Chad Mendez where he needs him

2352
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: and then jumps into the crowd and they hold him up.

2353
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, this triumphant king of his people. Oh

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01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 1: my god, was that the rematch? No, that was the first,

2355
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: the first one, thet fight competitive as ship was a

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01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: great fight. Yes.

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01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they run into the crowd. That was like icon.

2358
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Pearl Washington and the Carrier Dome

2359
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: for Syracuse.

2360
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 2: After he hit a half court buzzer breader, he ran like.

2361
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 1: Fifty rows, give a fuck about Syracuse.

2362
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, so uh, I mean that's a great moment.

2363
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 2: I think when he was it the Jeremy Stevens fight

2364
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:36,919
Speaker 2: when he had lost the back to back by Stoppish

2365
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 2: to Holloway and we were like, yeah, rebound fight and

2366
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 2: that rebound fight it was like a body shot and

2367
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 2: it just felt like like he was back and this.

2368
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: Team put him on his shoulders and everything. Yeah.

2369
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 2: Man, that was a good moment. And right there his resume,

2370
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 2: Luke is despite me trying to previously keep him out

2371
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 2: of it, he's an upper room guy. He's an upper

2372
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 2: room all time great guy, the best in his division's history,

2373
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 2: an absolute icon. Look at the longevity he could still

2374
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 2: go right now if they actually put him in fights

2375
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 2: that matched his uh, his current state. He went down

2376
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 2: in Wait late in his career and was a title contender.

2377
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 2: I mean, took on all challenges. I wish for him

2378
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 2: he would have gotten econom McGregor rematch at some point.

2379
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 2: I wish for his his arc, his legacy, his story,

2380
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 2: that would have been great.

2381
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 1: Life takes you in funny directions.

2382
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 2: He almost folded up shop against him and like a

2383
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 2: round five.

2384
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: Don't forget that, right, I was there at that event.

2385
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that that that rockman size.

2386
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen rock Moon thing.

2387
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you love that man.

2388
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,560
Speaker 1: The King of HEO. But you know he's going to

2389
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: be in BKFC soon. You know that. He says he

2390
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 1: wasn't even gonna He's not even gonna put on a gee.

2391
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: He said, he's not even gonna. He said what he said,

2392
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: what he would do is help friends train, Yes, because

2393
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: he wants to help people. But he's like in terms

2394
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: of like competing, he says he's done, and I hope

2395
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 1: he's done due he's taking a fuck ton of damage

2396
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, actually, if he gets a

2397
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 1: chance to box like a bad version of McGregor, he'll

2398
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 1: take it. It's kind of funny man like Aldell went

2399
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 1: long stretches of his career, right through that first Korean

2400
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 1: zombie fight where he didn't take hardly any damage, And

2401
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: it was after that where all the damage began to

2402
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: get poured in, and then once it did, like it

2403
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 1: just kept coming.

2404
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 2: I refused to try to remember what they on ending

2405
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 2: looked like when he got hit in the brain fifty

2406
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 2: six times.

2407
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So I'm glad he's calling it today.

2408
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 2: What a legend, what a man, what a very good man?

2409
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 1: Are there any more?

2410
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 4: Oh?

2411
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 1: Wow?

2412
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 2: From at probably Brian, maybe at almost halfway through twenty

2413
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 2: twenty five and with the biggest fights on the horizon,

2414
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 2: what is your fight of the year so far? I'm

2415
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 2: still torn, Brian says, Probably Brian between Paul Hughes versus

2416
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 2: Usmann and Raga Metto or JT JDM versus Balah Mohammed.

2417
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Hughes Nimerga Madeov.

2418
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

2419
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: I think there's a variety of responses.

2420
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 2: When I little long on, Look.

2421
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: What else is in the fight of the year conversation, I.

2422
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 4: Gonna say, I'm like blanking on what we've even had

2423
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 4: so far? Nomeaga Medov, Hughes is like the easy go too,

2424
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 4: because he gave us the options. But there's probably like

2425
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 4: a random prelimp fight.

2426
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: We're forgetting gonna be that good if we.

2427
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 4: Dude, we just had Milky Costa Julian Rossa put on

2428
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 4: a banger of a.

2429
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: Fight, like this fight is going to stand that test

2430
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: of time, the best.

2431
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 4: Fight on the card. I probably won't remember.

2432
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: It in a month. Ok, Yeah, that's fair. The two

2433
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 1: fights he listed were both main events. That was made

2434
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: off Hughes and then JDM and Blall those were both

2435
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 1: main events. I'm sure we're forgetting one. I'm sure we're

2436
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 1: forgetting one. There's been a lot of good fights. I

2437
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 1: will say. It's not like the year has been nothing

2438
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: but bad fights. That's really not true. But there's not

2439
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: been like huge, amazing breakout fight. That's the kind of thing.

2440
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 2: Do you think you you bank Ben is gonna win

2441
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 2: in boxing, It's gonna be tough to beat. I mean

2442
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 2: that the second better b of Bevall fight was great

2443
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 2: as well.

2444
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you bank Ben had more drama.

2445
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the third. Taylor Toronto will weigh in July.

2446
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 1: Right, That right?

2447
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 2: That Netflix, Netflix, Right, that's a hell, that's fantastic. That's

2448
01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 2: a sick fight and we're gonna get a third better

2449
01:47:59,080 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 2: be fight at.

2450
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 1: The end the right.

2451
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

2452
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe can you imagine Canelo? I know how you

2453
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 1: were like, oh, Canelo could fight Bivoll again, word word,

2454
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: that was going to happen. You get absolutely fucking I

2455
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: want to see him.

2456
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 2: I want to see him compete. You know you sent

2457
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 2: me that video about Baron, was like, yeah, Canelo doesn't

2458
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 2: want anymore.

2459
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't, he isn't. I've been saying that. I've been

2460
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: saying that for how long?

2461
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 3: You're right?

2462
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 2: Wow, you sniffed out that red, all right, you sniffed

2463
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 2: out the amber.

2464
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 1: That was the color of his energy. Luke, you know.

2465
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 2: All right, those are our fan questions. Thank you for sending.

2466
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 2: We have one final segment for you. It's when I

2467
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 2: try to make Luke Thomas either laugh or be heavily

2468
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 2: disturbed by the viral videos I found by scraping the internet.

2469
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 1: This there's the cake Lady on here, I'm punching you

2470
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: in the face.

2471
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 2: This one's called have you seen this?

2472
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 3: Ish?

2473
01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: Can I tell you my wife now what likes the

2474
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 1: cake Lady?

2475
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 2: Your wife is aware of this?

2476
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: Yes, not from the show. Independently and she sent me

2477
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: one because she likes that show. Is it Cake? Have

2478
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: you seen it? No? So I think it was on

2479
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 1: Netflix or HBO Max or whatever. And where you know

2480
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: they make they make like, oh, is it a bookshelf

2481
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 1: or is it a you know, but it's like a

2482
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: little more structured, whereas this lady's just walking around eating

2483
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 1: things like a fucking I'd like, go.

2484
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 2: Would you watch an X rated version of that segment?

2485
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: Like is it dick or is it cake?

2486
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 8: You know?

2487
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna watch a dicky in the contest. No,

2488
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 1: Look when you frame it like, I'll step that one.

2489
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: That one, that one, you can keep that one.

2490
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,759
Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of eating a dick, Luke, here's your boxing

2491
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 2: interview of the week.

2492
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 10: With us this morning. And look, you know this is

2493
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 10: gonna be a tough right on paper release against Williams

2494
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 10: of Payta. Tell us why it won't be tough in

2495
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 10: the ring.

2496
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 11: First, I want to say we would by far the

2497
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 11: worst commentator and interview in the business. Actually this is

2498
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 11: his third take, but you know, uh, Williams, the pity,

2499
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 11: He's a great fighter on paper. It's supposed to be

2500
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 11: hardest fight of my career. So let's see what happened

2501
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 11: in July twelve.

2502
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, we'll see, and I appreciate the kind of words.

2503
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 10: Thank you for that.

2504
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 1: No converse you brother.

2505
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 10: Okay, well I was being sarcastic obviously.

2506
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 3: But oh for real, I didn't know.

2507
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 10: Okay, oh good, I'm glad you have a sense of humor.

2508
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 10: But in the ring Williams of Payda likes to bring

2509
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 10: can you rate this on.

2510
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 2: The cop of meter? Is that the worst?

2511
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 1: Let me just say this in fairness, you're Ryah Hall

2512
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: did this to us?

2513
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 2: Yes, oh o god, it's happened to me. I've been

2514
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 2: dunked on. Yeah.

2515
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 1: Actually he's not the only one who's done it to me.

2516
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 2: Kerry said he will kill me when he sees me.

2517
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's another one. So you know, it's happened

2518
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 1: a few times. That was pretty funny. That was you

2519
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 1: know what the line is that actually makes that whole thing.

2520
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 1: He goes this is actually his third take.

2521
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 2: Poor cop dude, he got he gets your game shot up.

2522
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 2: You love that clip? Would you say it's your favorite

2523
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 2: clip of all time?

2524
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 1: That's it's top three?

2525
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 2: We should watch it again, right? Shut it off?

2526
01:50:54,400 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: Prick, Yeah, yeah, prick, get him out of the brick.

2527
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to write an oral history on that

2528
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 2: moment that just get like interview everyone involved.

2529
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: This is really good, dude, Bob Dude, Bob Aram. Bob

2530
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 1: Aram has been promoting since the what sixties? Yes, he

2531
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:19,520
Speaker 1: went to Harvard. Obviously his body has declined that motherfucker's

2532
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 1: mind is. He's still sharp and dude, this is what

2533
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: I love about boxing. Boxing is full of old men,

2534
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 1: and old men don't give a fuck what you think,

2535
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 1: and they will absolutely tell you whatever is on their mind. Indeed,

2536
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:33,879
Speaker 1: it is amazing.

2537
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 2: This old man, Derek Chesa, tried to pick up Sky

2538
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: Nicholson on camera and this is what happened.

2539
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 1: Oh God, I was gonna grab dinner.

2540
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 8: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

2541
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: Don't be coming on me like that. Don't you like?

2542
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: Don't you like dinner?

2543
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's some cold shoulder ship. Did you see that?

2544
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 1: No, because I just got a fucking alert that there's

2545
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: God damn it, dude, God damn it. Did you hear

2546
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: about this? I don't know what the alert is, Luke,

2547
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to guess? Due to New Jersey

2548
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 1: transit work dispute, there may be an event taking place

2549
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 1: outside of the blah blah blah blah blah, and it's

2550
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna affect traffic and you're ability to get home on

2551
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: a reasonable time. So now please put a gun in

2552
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 1: my mouth. Okay, I don't accept that type of talk.

2553
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous.

2554
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 2: I was two and a half hours late last week,

2555
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 2: my you know, just the trains behind you know, I

2556
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 2: go home two and a half hours, but I still

2557
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 2: watched when my friend played a funny video.

2558
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Yeah, I apologize.

2559
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't have any follow ups about Sky Nichols.

2560
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:36,719
Speaker 1: Sexual harassment in the workplace?

2561
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 5: All right, there we go.

2562
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 2: Hey, UFC was back in the Apex on Saturday. Check

2563
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 2: out Michael Morales. Is his mama going sick on the

2564
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 2: sidelines here?

2565
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 5: Get after it, right, I just look for you like

2566
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 5: in the school.

2567
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 1: So I asked my wife because I never heard this word,

2568
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:23,600
Speaker 1: and I asked her what it means, and what she

2569
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 1: tried to explain to me was it really depends on

2570
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 1: where you go. So apparently in Colombia and Venezuela means horny,

2571
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: but I guess in Ecuador, where they're from, it means

2572
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 1: more like, uh like power or passion or you know,

2573
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 1: like strong horn Yeah it doesn't quite mean horny. Yeah. Well,

2574
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 1: Long Island looks Fight of the year.

2575
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 2: Milkie versus Juicy J had a Rocky and Apollo moment

2576
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 2: moment back at the hospital.

2577
01:53:49,840 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: This is some nice here linked when they're when they're

2578
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 1: doing the hospital gurney bit. You know, it was a

2579
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: tough ass fight.

2580
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: Luke, you once gave explosively awful life advice for people

2581
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 2: to not follow their dreams. I'm wondering if this is

2582
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 2: your mentor what's your life advice?

2583
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 10: Life advice? Just because you don't give up doesn't mean

2584
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 10: you will make it.

2585
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 1: Listen to Luke Thomas Folks, Okay, shoot low. I know

2586
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: that people don't like hearing uncomfortable truths, but that lady

2587
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 1: is right.

2588
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 2: All right, Todd for your sand castle all the week.

2589
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is appropriate around children, but

2590
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 2: they did it anyway.

2591
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: Luke, what the fuck? Oh my god, look how happy

2592
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: that kid is? Oh yeah, oh yeah, and then you

2593
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:45,879
Speaker 1: got the two beers.

2594
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 8: You know what?

2595
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Actually, now I support this. That's pretty great.

2596
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 2: Look. I'm a sucker for foreign people who speak broken

2597
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 2: English yelling insults at each other. M yeah, it creates moments.

2598
01:54:55,000 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 8: Like this, shut tup out, don't shout, you don't know me,

2599
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 8: Try to be smart ass. I'm right here.

2600
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 12: You are.

2601
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 1: So this is this is in d C. Wow, that's

2602
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 1: Dulles Airport. So I don't know who that was. But

2603
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: I also love scenes like this.

2604
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, our third world, you're ass as Luke Elvin says

2605
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 2: that was the cab driver.

2606
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: I know that, Luke.

2607
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: We won't show footage of it because they'll copyright us.

2608
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 2: But Darren Till scored a Misfits boxing victory over Darren

2609
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 2: the Dentist Stewart, nearly getting a KO in the final second.

2610
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 2: But here's what he wants next.

2611
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 10: I don't hate, but I promise you right now, I

2612
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 10: promise you on my life, right now, I will get

2613
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 10: my revenge on j as Well, and I will know

2614
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 10: him clean spa out.

2615
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 1: I will get my avenge.

2616
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Are you into till Mas Vitolt two in a boxing No? No,

2617
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 2: all right? Here's Jorge mass alse response.

2618
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 1: That was a flying cock that move.

2619
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that.

2620
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 1: Very funny.

2621
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 2: Elsewhere in boxing this weekend, Chris Cyborg was back in

2622
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 2: the pro boxing ring in California and first round or

2623
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 2: sorry in early.

2624
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 1: KO I'm not sure that long twentieth anniversary of her

2625
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 1: combat sports career.

2626
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 2: Basically, a legend, a true legend, can't speak on the

2627
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 2: quality of opponent.

2628
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: Listen, you're fighting numbers at this stage of boxing or whatever.

2629
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 1: But the fact that Cyborg is just out here getting

2630
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 1: after it whoever she can't staying active however she can.

2631
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 2: Are we going to see Cyborg home too in a

2632
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 2: boxing ring?

2633
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: Is that are possible? Because you can see it? By

2634
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 1: the way, I remember she beat uh Pachicko right in

2635
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 1: UH in PFL, the one time that she's been used

2636
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 1: in PFL. Cyborg is legend.

2637
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 2: Well, I saw a rumor that Pacheco can't make any

2638
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 2: headway with PFL or UFC right now?

2639
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 1: I did hear about that? I don't know.

2640
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 2: I have to dry with the situation in the moment.

2641
01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: I would like to see her get back to the

2642
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 1: UFC if she wants to. She can fight. She's proven

2643
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 1: to be quite the quite the formidable opponent.

2644
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 2: Our final boxing highlight of the weekend took place in

2645
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 2: Santo Domingo, the Dominican Luke.

2646
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 1: Check out the referee here. You just got punched in

2647
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 1: the back of the head and then it's gonna get

2648
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: worse for a minute.

2649
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 2: This is disgraceful. This is not good.

2650
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: Okay, do we know what the story is? Why are

2651
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 1: they beating up the referee?

2652
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure they don't like the way he officiated.

2653
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 1: Dude, he just dove out of the ring. Jesus, my my.

2654
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 2: Church cyo basketball team my junior year. Now, I wasn't

2655
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 2: on the team this year. I went I joined the

2656
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 2: team the next year. Yeah, Christian youth organization. So basically

2657
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 2: in my in my town, if you didn't play the

2658
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 2: high school team, could play the rec team, but the

2659
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 2: rec league only it ended.

2660
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: Your junior year.

2661
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:44,960
Speaker 2: So senior year, I was like, I need to play hoops.

2662
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 2: So I joined my cyo team the year before. They

2663
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: made it all the way to the New England championship.

2664
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 2: But when they won the state championship over a team

2665
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 2: from Hartford, as soon as the final whistle blew, the

2666
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 2: referee ran out and the team chased him out in

2667
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 2: the parking lot to beat the ship out of him.

2668
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: For So that just wal come from for Jesus, no.

2669
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 2: No, no, forget no, forget no, forget you Luke. You

2670
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 2: know this game rate it from one to ten it's

2671
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 2: time to rate that tat Here we go. Here's Daniel Rodriguez,

2672
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 2: Old d Rod putting Jesus on the dome. Luke rate

2673
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 2: that test.

2674
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 1: So a couple things there should be noted about this

2675
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:23,839
Speaker 1: number one dome tattoos have exploded in popularity. Yes, more recently,

2676
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: like in the last year or two. It's the first

2677
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 1: thing I'll say. Second of all, it's hard to say

2678
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 1: from right here because I would need to see how

2679
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 1: it looks at the front like this. It does not

2680
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 1: look like a bad tattoo.

2681
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 2: Is Jesus's beard supposed to mimic a hair like a

2682
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 2: hairline in the front when he when he lifts his

2683
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 2: head up.

2684
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 1: This is what I mean about, like doing these kinds

2685
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 1: of tattoos where he's trying to get the hairline to

2686
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 1: mimic the beard. I don't I don't know if that works.

2687
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 1: It does not. It's not a poorly applied tattoo, if

2688
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 1: that's what you're asking. Great topic, great, great subject matter,

2689
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 1: A little much for me. The guy who did bunch

2690
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: of my tattoos has a big ass head tattoo, and

2691
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: I asked him what it was like, and he said

2692
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 1: he you can just hear buzzing like rattling through your skull.

2693
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: That's so I will I will never do that, So

2694
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 1: you won't.

2695
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 2: Rate this tat though, because of the religious kind of

2696
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 2: te um.

2697
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 1: Seven.

2698
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take that ring to the next one. Here's

2699
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 2: a combination of two of our childhood heroes, Luke et

2700
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 2: and Stone Cold.

2701
01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: What y'all are trying to find me for scientific experiments?

2702
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 12: What?

2703
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 2: What do you rate this one?

2704
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: Luke? I mean, this is a negative eight billion, come on,

2705
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 1: but it makes right. But I mean I love the

2706
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 1: detail in the armpit, which is will weird on both

2707
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 1: side tabs, the abs coming through the vest you got.

2708
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 4: There, bicep is a lot bigger.

2709
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Than the other. Yeah, I mean this is a poor tattoos.

2710
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 1: Get this on the back of your fucking leg. All right,

2711
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 1: Luke trash.

2712
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 2: Rate this political tap please one to ten?

2713
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 1: Wow, brother down, bad human you imagine like the level

2714
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: these By the way, these are the kinds of people

2715
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 1: that will get in my mentions. And if you have

2716
02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome, I'm like, actually, I think it's you.

2717
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 1: I think it's you. All right, let's go to the

2718
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:07,560
Speaker 1: next one. Luke.

2719
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 2: Let's combine the two things. I love the best hot

2720
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 2: dogs in women's bodies, Luke, what do you rate this one?

2721
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 1: It's a little bit better, a little better. I'm still weird.

2722
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 1: The ketchup covering the titties is a little bit.

2723
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 2: How about the bun covering the buns?

2724
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 1: They thought of everything on this one. Once again, another

2725
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 1: white trash piece of shit.

2726
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:26,960
Speaker 2: But it's like a It's like a solid seven though

2727
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 2: on the give it a five. All right, one more

2728
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:32,160
Speaker 2: a UFC. Related to tatt Luke, can you rate this

2729
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 2: out of one to ten? I mean, you got it.

2730
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 1: I know you hate the subject material of subject matter

2731
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 1: negative infinity. It's a good a tattoo. I'll give it

2732
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 1: a six.

2733
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 2: Oh wow?

2734
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2735
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:49,320
Speaker 2: Speaking of has Bulah, Luke, let's check it on John Jones.

2736
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:53,560
Speaker 2: He's apparently still in Thailand. But uh like Mike Tyson

2737
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 2: who picked up Hosbulah like treating him like a bear,

2738
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 2: come and kissed him. John also having fun with this

2739
02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 2: small man. They are friends forever.

2740
02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: Luke. You know what, when you finally need has a

2741
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 1: bullet to smack somebody? Yes, now, now, now you don't

2742
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 1: have it in you. Really, he's not a he's not

2743
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 1: a child. He's like twenty three years old. He's like

2744
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 1: twenty two or something. Yeah, poor guy.

2745
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, that's weird. Let's keep the John Jones stuff going.

2746
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 2: Here's UFC pulling out all stops to try to get

2747
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:28,400
Speaker 2: him to sign for the aspinall fight, Luke. They've created

2748
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:30,840
Speaker 2: a trail that leads to Madison Square Garden.

2749
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 1: He just has to and a police escort just in

2750
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 1: case things get out of hand right behind, just needs

2751
02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 1: to follow it.

2752
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:38,320
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, let's check in on our favorite journalist,

2753
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:39,480
Speaker 2: the warlock, Gareth A.

2754
02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 1: Davis.

2755
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:48,839
Speaker 2: That's a vapors or closers.

2756
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 1: No comment. There's so many sex assault jokes I want

2757
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 1: to make, but I'm gonna keep rock.

2758
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 2: Lesnar's daughter, Maya won her fourth consecutive Bro. She's in

2759
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 2: West Championship. She is an NCAA champion as well.

2760
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 1: Shock Or she's an athlete and she.

2761
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 2: Is a tank, a very strong young woman.

2762
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 1: The shot cut here.

2763
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 2: She looks so much like him it's ridiculous. So that's

2764
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 2: from I don't think that's what sable right. This is

2765
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 2: a this is a daughter he had early on.

2766
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who his significant others are.

2767
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:29,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, Bro, she's she's an athlete.

2768
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think she'll go into because Olympics.

2769
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't honest, she's good enough for that. I

2770
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: don't know she good enough for the Olympics.

2771
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 2: She go to pro wrestling r I'm a mayor. I

2772
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 2: wonder if she wrestles to.

2773
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 1: Good you know what I mean. She's got the athletic

2774
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 1: stock to get good.

2775
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 2: Luke, you've heard of super Mario. What about super Maria

2776
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 2: and that toe head?

2777
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:01,760
Speaker 1: More that Toad or the or Yeah, maybe Jess because

2778
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 1: in the hole everyone, I take it. I'll take you

2779
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 1: on infrastructure in several parts of northern South America, not

2780
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 1: that money music live.

2781
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 2: Ultimately, all right, let's flatulate. It's time, Luke. Check out

2782
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 2: this China zoo and what this hippo did to the onlookers.

2783
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 1: Hell, this is what I do every time I come

2784
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 1: to the MK studio.

2785
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 2: They should have like a celebration, miss hippo. Absolutely spray

2786
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 2: those hosts if they made any signs for this celebration.

2787
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh there it is.

2788
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 1: Look festival every morning under the sheets. My wife hates it, Luke.

2789
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 2: Uh Boots Ennis versus Tao could be next a welter Wait,

2790
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 2: but my boy Tim Bradley the Hall of Famer as

2791
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Speaker 2: a disclaimer for those who think that who has this.

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Speaker 6: Boots and his better leave too Lopez a loan, he

2793
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:05,480
Speaker 6: better leave him alone.

2794
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 5: I'm telling y'all, yes, lead that boy alone.

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02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 1: He a real one.

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02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:14,760
Speaker 6: I know what all that races ran and stuff like that. Hey,

2797
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:17,600
Speaker 6: that's just one thing. When I'm talking about boxing, That's

2798
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 6: what I'm talking about. And I'm here to tell y'all

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02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 6: he got what it takes to beat Boots in this

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02:04:25,160 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 6: man the two most athletic fighters in the game.

2801
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:31,680
Speaker 1: Damn, Where is Tim Bradley where the food fighters are on?

2802
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 2: It's like, look at It's like a kid soccer game

2803
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 2: or the county fair or something.

2804
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 1: It was like, Tim, what the where are you? Bud?

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02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:40,440
Speaker 2: What do you think of that? That Taos too athletic

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02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:41,440
Speaker 2: for Boots and would?

2807
02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't buy that?

2808
02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might have problems against Boots. It's dude, The

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02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 2: Hainis are pushing hard for the tail favor.

2810
02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:50,400
Speaker 1: Well they need a little redemption. I mean, Devin won,

2811
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 1: but he looked like butt cheeks in that fight.

2812
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,440
Speaker 2: Let's check it out on the NBA playoffs. This is

2813
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 2: a te Wolves fan, you know you get on the skycam.

2814
02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 1: You kiss, Luke, or you just take a bump. That's uh,

2815
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:01,920
Speaker 1: there we go. That's how we do it.

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02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

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02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean I also would need to do coke to

2818
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: go to a Timberwolves game.

2819
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,000
Speaker 2: But yes, oh a man is unbelieved.

2820
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:10,240
Speaker 1: He's amazing. Yes, and I'm saying that as a Wizards fan.

2821
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 1: But you know, like I like to be insulting luc.

2822
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:15,560
Speaker 2: It's hashtag never forget. We know there's certain dates that

2823
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 2: we uh we never forget. But check out this old

2824
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 2: school phone by the way.

2825
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:29,440
Speaker 1: Hey, oh huh, all right, all right, I'll get you later. Bye.

2826
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 1: They hit the second tower, Well that was that was

2827
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 1: all the way back then they knew.

2828
02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like a controlled demolition like Building seven. Luke,

2829
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 2: let's go to this instructional video of faith.

2830
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 1: Whether they're young or old.

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02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:49,120
Speaker 4: The best kind of friends are people who are friends

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Speaker 4: of got.

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02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:52,000
Speaker 1: Is this real?

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02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2835
02:05:56,360 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 2: Pre event, but that is very poorly it did it did, Luke?

2836
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 2: Well we got a bonus rate that tell let's see

2837
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 2: what your one to ten scale bring. Okay, this is I.

2838
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 1: Don't support this. They did get the second plane there.

2839
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:11,560
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, wow, what are we doing here?

2840
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 1: Finally, people love it when you make jokes about death.

2841
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 1: They write me telling me how much they love it

2842
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: when you do that.

2843
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 2: Would you say that you are the biggest fan of

2844
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 2: Taporia's hog that is out there.

2845
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 1: Probably his wife is number one. I found one more.

2846
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 2: His name is DC.

2847
02:06:25,640 --> 02:06:33,880
Speaker 1: Watched this. Look at that. Let me damn boy, look

2848
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 1: at that. Let me Okay, that's the shoot of the week.

2849
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 1: Luke was ready for the boy boy, oh.

2850
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:43,520
Speaker 2: Boy, what a time to be alive.

2851
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:44,760
Speaker 1: Thank you for the funny games.

2852
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I give that one a b Okay,

2853
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 2: I'll take a bee I'll take a bee cup after yeah,

2854
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 2: all right, no, no.

2855
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 1: No, no, we will be saw the Minecraft movie.

2856
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 2: What do you think?

2857
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:58,800
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about Minecraft. I make that a disclaimer.

2858
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:00,520
Speaker 2: I know nothing about My twins loved it, the other

2859
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 2: one hated it. So let's see where we are.

2860
02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 1: So I had to watch both movies. I had to

2861
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 1: watch the New Snow White movie because hello, I have

2862
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 1: a six year old daughter, and then I had to

2863
02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 1: watch the Minecraft movie. The Minecraft movie was way better.

2864
02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:12,840
Speaker 1: Jack Black, dude, you're pretty good in this movie.

2865
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,200
Speaker 2: I heard. I heard the term chicken jockey yield in

2866
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 2: my house. A lot.

2867
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 1: There is a chicken jockey in this movie. Yeah.

2868
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 2: I was on a date night with my wife this

2869
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 2: weekend and I saw the accountant to it with Ben Affleck.

2870
02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:24,680
Speaker 1: How was it?

2871
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 5: Are you good?

2872
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 2: It was that one of those theaters where you order

2873
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:29,200
Speaker 2: dinner and drinks and they bring it to you, and

2874
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 2: you they do, but like the tray isn't like close

2875
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 2: enough or big enough, so you're eating this burger in

2876
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 2: the dark, and you're spilling it all of yourself.

2877
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:39,800
Speaker 1: Was it Alamo? Is it Alamo Theater?

2878
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 3: No?

2879
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:41,280
Speaker 2: Sinapolis?

2880
02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:48,640
Speaker 1: Thenopolie, I'm waiting for Doune three brother, That's what I know. Yeah,

2881
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that there. How about this Star

2882
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:55,400
Speaker 1: Wars is doomed for stupid people? That's the reality, accept it.

2883
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. George Lucas by the way,

2884
02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 2: and his beef beef. Oh, that's the show this week.

2885
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:02,240
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed some of it, maybe even all

2886
02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 1: of it.

2887
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:05,000
Speaker 2: Thank you for playing Morningcombat at gmail dot com to

2888
02:08:05,080 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 2: reach our show. By the way, thank you very much.

2889
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 2: Once more, you can follow us on the social handles below,

2890
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,480
Speaker 2: including our YouTube channels, and just a reminder that this

2891
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 2: fantastic episode of Morning Combat was brought to you by DraftKings,

2892
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Speaker 2: and with DraftKings, the crown is yours long. Isn't look

2893
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 2: anything else that you want to say?

2894
02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 4: No UFC this weekend, No major mma this weekend. Man,

2895
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 4: I might have to be a good boyfriend this weekend.

2896
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:29,000
Speaker 1: But you know, wait, what the hell are we going

2897
02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:31,440
Speaker 1: to do on Friday? Show skits and bits? Yeah, let's

2898
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 1: just I don't know, watch porn, react to it. I

2899
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 1: don't know. One more thing.

2900
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 2: Put the camera on me, put the camera on me?

2901
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:39,040
Speaker 2: Anyone else?

2902
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh? What's anyone else?

2903
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:43,920
Speaker 2: Check out this?

2904
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:45,640
Speaker 1: Hey?

2905
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:47,600
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, more to come, folks. Okay, we got our

2906
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:48,120
Speaker 2: shit together.

2907
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 1: More to come, all right, so get ready, get well?

2908
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 2: Okay, that does get ready? Okay, more to come and

2909
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:56,919
Speaker 2: it won't be me. Thank you very much. A fantastic

2910
02:08:56,960 --> 02:08:58,480
Speaker 2: show this week. Will be back Friday. I have no

2911
02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 2: idea what we're gonna talk about. I fucking and then

2912
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:04,800
Speaker 2: don't forget. June fourth, Wednesday, eleven am e spright here

2913
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:07,760
Speaker 2: UFC three sixteen pregame preview brought to you by Cuervo

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Speaker 2: Aaron Bronstetter that that fantastic gentleman of a fellow there

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Speaker 2: from Canada, he'll be joining US Hybrid Athlete Old School

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Speaker 2: Hybrid Athlete. Look do you want to do? You want

2917
02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:20,440
Speaker 2: to say? Anything you have Like, there's a microphone, there's

2918
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Speaker 2: a camera, there's a microphone. No watching your chest? No,

2919
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm good, All right for LT it's BC and we

2920
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 2: love you folks. Thanks for watching. Take care we are

2921
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:31,320
Speaker 2: out here. All the Smoke Fight is headed to the

2922
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:31,920
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

2923
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 1: That's right.

2924
02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 13: This year's International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction Weekend in

2925
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 13: boxing's hometown Cannis Stoda, New York, takes place on Thursday,

2926
02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 13: June fifth through Sunday June eighth, ending with an annual

2927
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 13: ceremony immortalizing boxing's all time greats.

2928
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:49,839
Speaker 12: The International Boxing Hall of Fame a hosting fan events

2929
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Speaker 12: and experiences all weekend long. On Friday night, June sixth,

2930
02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 12: Salida Promotion will present a terrific fight call in association

2931
02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:59,600
Speaker 12: with All the Smoke Fight live on his own from

2932
02:09:59,640 --> 02:10:02,960
Speaker 12: the turn Stone Resort Casino and Ramona, New York, featuring

2933
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 12: USBA Heavyweight Champion Brandon Moore defending his title against undefeated

2934
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 12: prospect Stanley Right in the main event, plus a stack

2935
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:16,080
Speaker 12: undercard featuring world champion Franchion Foods, Dessern and rising prospects

2936
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 12: JJ Pagan and Develle Smith.

2937
02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:20,240
Speaker 13: Sounds to me, we're gonna have a great fight night,

2938
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,560
Speaker 13: and of course Sunday is ceremony to a Inductor class

2939
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 13: of twenty twenty five legends like Many Pacman, pak Yao

2940
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:29,400
Speaker 13: Michael Second to None, and a Pasmanian Devil.

2941
02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:32,520
Speaker 12: Vinnie Paz joined all the Smoke, Fight and Sleted promotion

2942
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:36,480
Speaker 12: at Turning Stone Resort Casino for this year's International Boxing

2943
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:38,160
Speaker 12: Hall of Fame Induction weekend.

2944
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 2: Hey listen.

2945
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:42,600
Speaker 13: Visit Turningstone dot com for accommodations and tickets to Fridays

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Speaker 13: fight Night. Visit ibhof dot com for the full Induction

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Speaker 13: weekend schedule