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Speaker 2: We got lots, Just say we got lost.

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Speaker 2: here's Bobby that Welcome to another week. By the way,

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Speaker 2: it's a little late going up today. I apologize. We

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Speaker 2: should record the evening before. I was a little sick.

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Speaker 2: Where are you today?

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Speaker 3: I know I did get that text message and I

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Speaker 3: was concerned about you.

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Speaker 2: It was a last minute sick to the worst kind,

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Speaker 2: like I was trying to gut it out, food poisoning

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Speaker 2: type sit. I don't think so. So I'm a guy.

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Speaker 2: I refuse to think that I get migraines. I refuse

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Speaker 2: allergy tests, they were like, you can't have dairy, so

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Speaker 2: I can't have dairy and and I think at times

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Speaker 2: if my nutrition's not right, I get these crippling headaches

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Speaker 2: It was just it was screaming. So I went into

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Speaker 2: and it was like thirty minutes before showtime. And the

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Speaker 2: last thing I want to do is this point Matcastle.

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Speaker 2: Oh are you kidding me? It's totally fine, help me

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Speaker 2: pro wow cord right, Matt Castle is waiting to do

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Speaker 2: a show, and here I am laying on a couch

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Speaker 2: I had to cancel. So it's going up a little

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Speaker 2: later today. So my apologies to you. Hey, don't apologize

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Speaker 2: to me. Body, I'm just hoping you're feeling better. So

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Speaker 2: how long did it take for this migraine to go away?

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Speaker 2: Four hours? Four hours? What do you take for it? Well,

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Speaker 2: I take medicine. I don't call it.

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Speaker 3: It's not a migraine. That's definitely considered a migraine. If

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Speaker 3: you look up migraine that those are the symptoms that.

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Speaker 2: Do not I do not have migraines. I was having

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Speaker 2: a bad day, so I call it just a bad day.

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Speaker 2: I could not focus, though, and I kept working through

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Speaker 2: I was working through it, and I was like, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm not a migraine guy, so I want to eliminate

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Speaker 3: So you never get migraines, or it's an occasional thing,

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Speaker 2: Sometimes some would say occasionally I get a headache so

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Speaker 2: migraine symptoms. Man, it was crazy. So I finally got

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Speaker 2: Yes we do. I'd like to lead with a story.

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Speaker 2: Guess what You're going back to Lake Hamilton? Max?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they said he was back in the building

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Speaker 3: Somebody somebody took my old job and I can't go

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Speaker 3: So I know that there's a lot that goes into it,

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Speaker 3: and there's a lot of probably conspiracy theories right now,

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Speaker 2: So I have two questions about your situation. That's super interesting.

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Speaker 2: Number one, and this does relate a bit to Max

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Speaker 2: Crosby because he goes in Obviously he had the surgery.

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Speaker 2: They knew what they knew. He wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: healed right now, right, And I don't know what they

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Speaker 2: and why they didn't pass him right that there's some

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Speaker 2: But with yours, they knew your surgery, do they not?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like mark that as a this part

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Speaker 3: I guess the bones were still calcilfying, but haven't completely calcilfied.

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Speaker 2: To the point they should have at that point, I have.

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Speaker 3: No idea, and that was the question that I had.

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Speaker 3: I said, we'll talk talk to my foot doctor, the specialist,

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Speaker 3: And he's like, you're progressing exactly where you should. Because

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Speaker 3: I've had multiple checkups with him up to this point.

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Speaker 3: at their orthopedic had looked at me and seen all

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Speaker 2: They took the x rays.

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Speaker 2: To supposed to be clearly healed. That's why I'm like

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Speaker 2: due to circumstances, yes, but you're right. The Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, two first rounders is a lot of

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Speaker 2: So quick it happened. It almost happened too quick, guys,

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Speaker 3: And Max Crosby is a difference maker. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: I believe that there was maybe something fishing, but you

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Speaker 2: If I can insert a scenario that is probably fiction

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Speaker 2: I feel like they had to find something more or

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Speaker 3: Well, everybody says you got to pass your physical and

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Speaker 2: It just so it worked out for the If you're

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Speaker 2: Top five yeah, top five, we say, top five, yeah,

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Speaker 3: The other side of the coin, right that we haven't

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Speaker 2: They by the way, at the number one center now Tylandbaum,

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Speaker 2: So cool.

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Speaker 3: I mean kway Walker, Na, Kobe Dean, Jalen Naylor, Tyler Linnenbaum,

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Speaker 2: They can still afford to have Crosby though, So they're

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Speaker 3: The other part about that is now everybody in the league,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: With Baltimore, even if they know, even if word around

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Speaker 2: and you were you were in purgatory for a minute.

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Speaker 3: My heart sunk to my stomach and I was like,

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Speaker 2: Another one is John Elway nearly the Raiders in eighty three.

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Speaker 2: So uh yeah, we probably both were going to have

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Speaker 2: No, we definitely were going to have that story. It's

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is crazy that the league is making

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Speaker 3: twenty two million. But you think about these salaries that

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Speaker 2: one the Mahomes was going to be able to play

433
00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:28,215
Speaker 2: the whole year, yes, and that he had legitimate intel

434
00:19:28,616 --> 00:19:30,775
Speaker 2: that they were either going to trade or draft and

435
00:19:30,856 --> 00:19:34,736
Speaker 2: make sure that secondary would be formidable. I don't think

436
00:19:34,735 --> 00:19:37,896
Speaker 2: he comes back for what was a documentary called The

437
00:19:38,016 --> 00:19:42,735
Speaker 2: Jordan Last Run, Last Dance. That's Custer, Yeah, Custer was

438
00:19:42,816 --> 00:19:44,816
Speaker 2: last Dan Cusler, the Last Dance. I don't think Kelsey

439
00:19:44,816 --> 00:19:48,816
Speaker 2: comes back for Last Dance unless he is told that

440
00:19:48,856 --> 00:19:51,336
Speaker 2: one Mahomes is going to be fine and that two

441
00:19:51,455 --> 00:19:58,016
Speaker 2: they're going to actually put out a competitive defense, right.

442
00:19:58,056 --> 00:20:00,776
Speaker 3: But I also think that as a competitor, and especially

443
00:20:00,856 --> 00:20:04,255
Speaker 3: the type of player he is, that if he wanted

444
00:20:04,256 --> 00:20:05,896
Speaker 3: to play, it was the desire for him to.

445
00:20:05,816 --> 00:20:08,215
Speaker 2: Play, that he was going to come back regardless. I

446
00:20:08,215 --> 00:20:10,176
Speaker 2: don't think you're rebuilding, even a full rebuild.

447
00:20:10,656 --> 00:20:13,416
Speaker 3: I mean after a six and six year it may

448
00:20:13,536 --> 00:20:16,096
Speaker 3: or whatever they were this year, they're five hundred, right

449
00:20:16,176 --> 00:20:17,056
Speaker 3: or below five hundred.

450
00:20:17,096 --> 00:20:19,896
Speaker 2: To me, they felt oh and seventeen based on every week.

451
00:20:20,215 --> 00:20:22,896
Speaker 2: Every week the Chiefs are used to losing.

452
00:20:23,296 --> 00:20:27,256
Speaker 3: But you would say you'd have to second guess where

453
00:20:27,336 --> 00:20:29,176
Speaker 3: you are as a franchise. But you say, oh, well,

454
00:20:29,215 --> 00:20:31,936
Speaker 3: we had a lot of close games at the end

455
00:20:31,936 --> 00:20:33,936
Speaker 3: of the day. Though, I think it's the competitor in

456
00:20:34,016 --> 00:20:36,296
Speaker 3: him that thinks he still can go, that he wants

457
00:20:36,296 --> 00:20:38,496
Speaker 3: to play again, regardless of the circumstance.

458
00:20:38,735 --> 00:20:42,215
Speaker 2: May I present to you though the idea of that.

459
00:20:42,136 --> 00:20:44,656
Speaker 3: The GM sold him on the thought, are you going

460
00:20:44,696 --> 00:20:47,136
Speaker 3: to trade away all of our secondary and then rebuild

461
00:20:47,136 --> 00:20:47,456
Speaker 3: that thing?

462
00:20:47,776 --> 00:20:51,736
Speaker 2: Or There were rumors whispers that Kelsey would go play

463
00:20:51,735 --> 00:20:53,535
Speaker 2: somewhere else for a year if Mahomes wasn't healthy and

464
00:20:53,576 --> 00:20:56,696
Speaker 2: he still wanted to play. I just don't think. What

465
00:20:56,776 --> 00:20:58,816
Speaker 2: do I know? You know way more about this than

466
00:20:58,856 --> 00:21:01,496
Speaker 2: I do when it comes to this scenario. But being

467
00:21:01,536 --> 00:21:04,176
Speaker 2: the fierce competitor than I am. You've seen me her

468
00:21:04,256 --> 00:21:05,095
Speaker 2: Michael Lay pick a ball.

469
00:21:05,176 --> 00:21:07,455
Speaker 3: I saw you fight through him or heard that you

470
00:21:07,495 --> 00:21:09,976
Speaker 3: fought through him yesterday just by sitting on your bed.

471
00:21:10,016 --> 00:21:11,256
Speaker 2: That's where he was on Sports Center? Was re number

472
00:21:11,256 --> 00:21:14,616
Speaker 2: three last night? Yeah? Yeah, to play moment. Yeah, I

473
00:21:15,096 --> 00:21:17,296
Speaker 2: just think if Kelsey wanted to play your right, I

474
00:21:17,296 --> 00:21:19,176
Speaker 2: think the competitor in him he would have played. I

475
00:21:19,215 --> 00:21:21,576
Speaker 2: think he wouldn't have wanted to come back and play

476
00:21:21,576 --> 00:21:23,376
Speaker 2: for a team if they would have told him we're

477
00:21:23,696 --> 00:21:26,376
Speaker 2: just rebuilding. And I don't think they would have given him,

478
00:21:26,656 --> 00:21:28,376
Speaker 2: not that thirteen million dollars is a lot, because it's

479
00:21:28,376 --> 00:21:29,896
Speaker 2: not not for a guy like that. I don't think

480
00:21:29,936 --> 00:21:32,416
Speaker 2: they would have invested that money into him. But what

481
00:21:32,455 --> 00:21:34,735
Speaker 2: do I know? I think it's Cooley coming back for

482
00:21:34,735 --> 00:21:36,696
Speaker 2: a year. For some reason. I always believe in the

483
00:21:36,735 --> 00:21:38,535
Speaker 2: Chiefs because I think Patrick Mahomes It's.

484
00:21:38,416 --> 00:21:39,376
Speaker 3: It's hard not to believe me.

485
00:21:39,416 --> 00:21:42,096
Speaker 2: He's the best cortrect in the NFL. Yes, so yeah,

486
00:21:42,096 --> 00:21:45,136
Speaker 2: a lot of money Hendrick Cent for one twelve. We

487
00:21:45,215 --> 00:21:48,256
Speaker 2: think about Tua signing with with Falcons, say.

488
00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:50,696
Speaker 3: It works out great for Atlanta because Miami's going to

489
00:21:50,735 --> 00:21:52,976
Speaker 3: pay that salary still. I mean, he had how much

490
00:21:53,215 --> 00:21:54,416
Speaker 3: money left on the books.

491
00:21:54,856 --> 00:21:57,256
Speaker 2: The Dolphins have to pay a ninety nine million dollar

492
00:21:57,296 --> 00:22:01,136
Speaker 2: cap hit, and so is that over two yeah, two

493
00:22:01,215 --> 00:22:04,096
Speaker 2: years ninety nine million, so they're gonna be yeah, but

494
00:22:04,176 --> 00:22:10,096
Speaker 2: it's it's too uh. And also Kyler, Kyler, they're gonna

495
00:22:10,176 --> 00:22:12,336
Speaker 2: they're gonna sign like one dollar deals with their teams.

496
00:22:12,416 --> 00:22:15,136
Speaker 2: They signed a league minimum, which works out great for Atlanta.

497
00:22:15,776 --> 00:22:16,936
Speaker 2: You know it's not one dollar.

498
00:22:17,136 --> 00:22:22,616
Speaker 3: Huh, that's exactly right. I mean, the Tula going to

499
00:22:22,696 --> 00:22:26,056
Speaker 3: Atlanta was a great pick up for Atlanta. The number one,

500
00:22:26,176 --> 00:22:28,416
Speaker 3: he'll be able to push Penix. Penix obviously is in

501
00:22:28,455 --> 00:22:31,536
Speaker 3: the recovery mode himself from the ACL injury that he had,

502
00:22:31,816 --> 00:22:34,575
Speaker 3: So they've got a guy that has started plenty of games,

503
00:22:34,816 --> 00:22:38,416
Speaker 3: has played well at different parts of his career, has

504
00:22:38,455 --> 00:22:42,215
Speaker 3: had some injury issues, obviously concussion issues. But at the

505
00:22:42,296 --> 00:22:43,975
Speaker 3: end of the day, they've got a guy that started

506
00:22:44,016 --> 00:22:46,576
Speaker 3: and have a lot of experience that comes into Atlanta

507
00:22:46,856 --> 00:22:49,015
Speaker 3: all the pressures off of him, and he's there to

508
00:22:49,096 --> 00:22:51,616
Speaker 3: potentially be a bridge guy or at least push Penix

509
00:22:51,896 --> 00:22:53,056
Speaker 3: if he's not able to come back.

510
00:22:53,735 --> 00:22:55,535
Speaker 2: Am I crazy? Or are they both left handed?

511
00:22:55,656 --> 00:22:58,136
Speaker 3: They're both left handed, and it's rare that you'll see

512
00:22:58,536 --> 00:23:00,056
Speaker 3: two lefties on one team.

513
00:23:00,096 --> 00:23:02,696
Speaker 2: Hey, I like it though, if I'm the offense because

514
00:23:02,696 --> 00:23:04,735
Speaker 2: I'm or if I'm the wide receiver, the ball spends

515
00:23:04,816 --> 00:23:06,295
Speaker 2: it I'm left handed, it does.

516
00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:08,376
Speaker 3: It spins, the revolutions go the different way.

517
00:23:08,495 --> 00:23:11,416
Speaker 2: So I hear, oh, you're lefty, the ball moves funny

518
00:23:11,495 --> 00:23:13,735
Speaker 2: or weird, or you have this movement because you're left handed.

519
00:23:14,096 --> 00:23:16,936
Speaker 2: But if I'm a wide receiver, I like it that

520
00:23:16,936 --> 00:23:20,296
Speaker 2: they're both left handed, because this is one that's one rotation, yeah,

521
00:23:20,536 --> 00:23:23,055
Speaker 2: the other crazy think about that? Am I nuts for

522
00:23:23,096 --> 00:23:23,856
Speaker 2: thinking that that's school? No?

523
00:23:23,936 --> 00:23:26,255
Speaker 3: They definitely say that. I mean, wide receivers say it

524
00:23:26,256 --> 00:23:28,535
Speaker 3: all the time. When you have a left handed quarterback

525
00:23:28,576 --> 00:23:30,216
Speaker 3: versus the right hand in the quarterback, how it comes

526
00:23:30,215 --> 00:23:32,336
Speaker 3: out of your hand and also how the ball spins.

527
00:23:32,336 --> 00:23:35,735
Speaker 3: It's just a different trajectory obviously, so there is something

528
00:23:35,735 --> 00:23:37,495
Speaker 3: to that. But the thing that I read about Tua,

529
00:23:37,735 --> 00:23:40,575
Speaker 3: did you know that Tua does everything right handed? He

530
00:23:40,616 --> 00:23:44,455
Speaker 3: even kicks right footed? But the only thing he does

531
00:23:44,576 --> 00:23:45,856
Speaker 3: left handed is throw football.

532
00:23:46,416 --> 00:23:47,095
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

533
00:23:47,336 --> 00:23:50,176
Speaker 3: His dad, I guess taught him terribly. He's younger dad

534
00:23:50,176 --> 00:23:52,376
Speaker 3: when he stopped when he was younger to throw the

535
00:23:52,416 --> 00:23:54,856
Speaker 3: ball left handed. And that's the only thing he does

536
00:23:55,096 --> 00:23:55,696
Speaker 3: left handed.

537
00:23:55,776 --> 00:23:57,855
Speaker 2: Is that wild. I would go back in time if

538
00:23:57,896 --> 00:23:59,656
Speaker 2: I could and just say, dad, let's not do that

539
00:23:59,936 --> 00:24:02,575
Speaker 2: as a left handed person myself, unless it's going to

540
00:24:02,616 --> 00:24:07,296
Speaker 2: be baseball exactly. That's left handed pitchers different, and only

541
00:24:07,336 --> 00:24:09,856
Speaker 2: if you pitch, because otherwise you can't play the infield

542
00:24:09,896 --> 00:24:12,455
Speaker 2: anywhere other than first and they're only putting big hitters

543
00:24:12,495 --> 00:24:15,856
Speaker 2: at first, they just discriminate against It sucks. You can't catch,

544
00:24:15,896 --> 00:24:18,696
Speaker 2: you can't play middle endfield. No second they take it,

545
00:24:19,256 --> 00:24:22,455
Speaker 2: but not really. And so you let's see a lot

546
00:24:22,455 --> 00:24:26,215
Speaker 2: of left handed catchers either none, you can't because this

547
00:24:27,416 --> 00:24:31,055
Speaker 2: most batters are right handed hand you're behind them. You

548
00:24:31,056 --> 00:24:34,015
Speaker 2: can't play guitar, you get ink on your hand. Like

549
00:24:34,416 --> 00:24:36,056
Speaker 2: there's so many times people that passing around a guitar

550
00:24:36,096 --> 00:24:37,255
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, I'd like to play a funny

551
00:24:37,256 --> 00:24:39,776
Speaker 2: song or so pass it. I can't do it because

552
00:24:39,816 --> 00:24:40,416
Speaker 2: I'm left handed.

553
00:24:40,495 --> 00:24:42,096
Speaker 3: About your forks when they're set up. Do you have

554
00:24:42,136 --> 00:24:44,656
Speaker 3: to switch them around like the place settings?

555
00:24:45,215 --> 00:24:48,576
Speaker 2: You know, like they're not stupid. You're acting like I'm a.

556
00:24:50,016 --> 00:24:51,616
Speaker 3: Or do you use your right hand? That's what I'm saying.

557
00:24:51,616 --> 00:24:52,776
Speaker 2: When you e He's like, do you get the wrong

558
00:24:52,776 --> 00:24:58,376
Speaker 2: side of the fork the stabby side? Is it torture

559
00:24:58,416 --> 00:25:02,336
Speaker 2: face or yeah? No, that's weird that that that's cool.

560
00:25:02,336 --> 00:25:04,776
Speaker 2: They're both left handed for the wide receivers. It worked

561
00:25:04,776 --> 00:25:06,656
Speaker 2: out pretty well. It also looks weird. And now I'm

562
00:25:06,696 --> 00:25:08,336
Speaker 2: left handed and that's the left handed quarterback. I'm like,

563
00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:08,896
Speaker 2: that looks weird.

564
00:25:08,975 --> 00:25:10,576
Speaker 3: It's just you're not used to seeing it.

565
00:25:26,536 --> 00:25:29,176
Speaker 2: Travis Aten with the Saints four years, fifty two million. Yeah,

566
00:25:29,215 --> 00:25:34,016
Speaker 2: at the recording of this, I've seen nothing with Kamara anybody. No,

567
00:25:34,096 --> 00:25:36,576
Speaker 2: you have it because there's no way Kamara is staying

568
00:25:36,616 --> 00:25:39,496
Speaker 2: there if they sign ATM like this. They were already

569
00:25:39,495 --> 00:25:41,455
Speaker 2: saying Kamara doesn't want to leave New Orleans. By the

570
00:25:41,455 --> 00:25:44,256
Speaker 2: way he said that, I don't know. I don't think

571
00:25:44,296 --> 00:25:46,855
Speaker 2: he stays a Saint. Mike Evans is the forty nine

572
00:25:46,936 --> 00:25:48,336
Speaker 2: ers is pretty cool. That's cool.

573
00:25:48,376 --> 00:25:50,136
Speaker 3: I mean they needed a veteran presence there.

574
00:25:50,336 --> 00:25:52,215
Speaker 2: I'd like him. I mean I would like him to

575
00:25:52,215 --> 00:25:52,656
Speaker 2: win too.

576
00:25:52,936 --> 00:25:55,176
Speaker 3: I mean he's big, he's physical, he'll do it in

577
00:25:55,176 --> 00:25:57,896
Speaker 3: the run game, he's unselfish. I mean he's everything that

578
00:25:57,936 --> 00:25:59,936
Speaker 3: you want a quality pro. And that's something that I

579
00:25:59,936 --> 00:26:02,296
Speaker 3: think that they've been missing a little bit of how

580
00:26:02,376 --> 00:26:06,016
Speaker 3: much hopefully he can stay healthy is really because he's

581
00:26:06,056 --> 00:26:08,936
Speaker 3: had the hamstring issues and last year was his first

582
00:26:09,016 --> 00:26:11,896
Speaker 3: year and god knows how long, what twelve seasons or

583
00:26:11,936 --> 00:26:13,576
Speaker 3: something like that, that he didn't have over a thousand yards,

584
00:26:13,576 --> 00:26:14,535
Speaker 3: but that was due to injury.

585
00:26:14,536 --> 00:26:16,775
Speaker 2: But that's a huge pickup for the forty nine ers

586
00:26:17,176 --> 00:26:20,856
Speaker 2: we have been known. I I'll remove from this.

587
00:26:21,776 --> 00:26:24,136
Speaker 3: No, No, you don't want to, Okay, I don't want it.

588
00:26:23,936 --> 00:26:26,696
Speaker 2: To times be a Titans hater, Dude. They did make

589
00:26:26,776 --> 00:26:30,896
Speaker 2: some great moves. They're making moves not only within the

590
00:26:30,936 --> 00:26:34,295
Speaker 2: administration the coaching staff, like they're doing things with the

591
00:26:34,816 --> 00:26:39,896
Speaker 2: extreme stability with proven success. Even Dables an offensive coordinator,

592
00:26:39,975 --> 00:26:44,536
Speaker 2: is freaking awesome. But they're also like spending money on folks.

593
00:26:44,576 --> 00:26:45,856
Speaker 2: And now I don't know the one Dow Robinson is

594
00:26:45,856 --> 00:26:49,896
Speaker 2: a true number one, but he's not a number three.

595
00:26:50,136 --> 00:26:50,936
Speaker 2: He's not three.

596
00:26:51,176 --> 00:26:54,055
Speaker 3: He's somebody that's a definite upgrade from what they have

597
00:26:54,176 --> 00:26:54,536
Speaker 3: right now.

598
00:26:55,215 --> 00:26:58,815
Speaker 2: So like, okay, like I'm with it. They've got a

599
00:26:58,896 --> 00:27:02,575
Speaker 2: serviceable backup in Trubisky. Yep. You know he's drafted before Mahomes.

600
00:27:03,416 --> 00:27:06,696
Speaker 2: That's right. That's all I think about, honestly to Risky. Yeah,

601
00:27:06,735 --> 00:27:08,416
Speaker 2: and you're like, did you're drafted before my home? I

602
00:27:08,455 --> 00:27:09,696
Speaker 2: don't say that to him. I've never met him.

603
00:27:09,696 --> 00:27:12,136
Speaker 3: He's like fifteen different teams already. It's crazy.

604
00:27:12,176 --> 00:27:13,856
Speaker 2: And is it you know, Mitch Tribisky, but is it

605
00:27:13,896 --> 00:27:15,896
Speaker 2: also Mitchell? And then I think of like matt and

606
00:27:15,936 --> 00:27:19,536
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. What did you call matt do you.

607
00:27:19,016 --> 00:27:20,256
Speaker 3: He liked to go by Matthew?

608
00:27:20,296 --> 00:27:22,735
Speaker 2: He did, Yes, it was a Matthew, not a matt

609
00:27:22,816 --> 00:27:26,816
Speaker 2: not a Maddie. Let's have doggie. No, I've never called

610
00:27:26,856 --> 00:27:27,336
Speaker 2: him Mattie.

611
00:27:27,336 --> 00:27:28,055
Speaker 3: You know he's Matthew.

612
00:27:28,096 --> 00:27:30,936
Speaker 2: I've actually never called that's my mom calling me Mattie.

613
00:27:32,016 --> 00:27:36,656
Speaker 2: Att Yeah, Matt and matt didn't they ever call you Matthew? No?

614
00:27:36,735 --> 00:27:39,775
Speaker 3: But my son is a Matthew Matthew Castle Jr. He

615
00:27:39,856 --> 00:27:41,576
Speaker 3: goes by Matthew.

616
00:27:41,656 --> 00:27:44,295
Speaker 2: You guys don't get confused, like if they if your

617
00:27:44,336 --> 00:27:46,815
Speaker 2: wife's are yelling no, I'll know if she's yelling at me.

618
00:27:46,975 --> 00:27:47,735
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.

619
00:27:47,776 --> 00:27:49,616
Speaker 3: It's a different tone. Got him going back to the

620
00:27:49,656 --> 00:27:54,495
Speaker 3: Titans though, also defensively Jermaine Johnson, John Franklin Meyer. Then

621
00:27:54,536 --> 00:27:56,696
Speaker 3: they went out and got two cornerbacks. I mean, they're

622
00:27:56,735 --> 00:27:58,896
Speaker 3: going to be much better on the defensive side of

623
00:27:58,896 --> 00:28:00,535
Speaker 3: the ball. And you already have Jeffrey Simmons, but they

624
00:28:00,616 --> 00:28:02,615
Speaker 3: shared up the defensive line. They got some corner at

625
00:28:02,616 --> 00:28:04,816
Speaker 3: secondary help. I mean, they've done some good things in

626
00:28:04,856 --> 00:28:05,376
Speaker 3: free agents.

627
00:28:05,616 --> 00:28:07,096
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a question. I'm not going to

628
00:28:07,176 --> 00:28:10,535
Speaker 2: tell you what the over under is until after you

629
00:28:10,576 --> 00:28:12,976
Speaker 2: answer what you think the Titans can win Without looking

630
00:28:13,016 --> 00:28:15,536
Speaker 2: at the schedule. They're going to be playing a it's

631
00:28:15,536 --> 00:28:17,336
Speaker 2: not gonna be easy schedule, but they were last place,

632
00:28:17,376 --> 00:28:19,016
Speaker 2: so they're going to be playing a last place schedule.

633
00:28:19,296 --> 00:28:21,256
Speaker 2: But what do you think the Titans? How many games

634
00:28:21,256 --> 00:28:23,535
Speaker 2: do they win next year? Blindly, I'm not giving you

635
00:28:23,576 --> 00:28:25,335
Speaker 2: the benefit of looking at their schedule. I don't think

636
00:28:25,336 --> 00:28:28,856
Speaker 2: I full schedules out is it? It's just last place now.

637
00:28:28,896 --> 00:28:30,896
Speaker 2: I think they're over under six and a half.

638
00:28:31,096 --> 00:28:32,136
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going nine.

639
00:28:32,776 --> 00:28:33,255
Speaker 2: That's big.

640
00:28:33,495 --> 00:28:35,975
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think they'll have a pretty good schedule.

641
00:28:35,975 --> 00:28:40,216
Speaker 3: They play in the South. I mean, Jacksonville's definitely upgraded.

642
00:28:40,736 --> 00:28:42,736
Speaker 3: Their team was much better last year.

643
00:28:42,856 --> 00:28:43,376
Speaker 2: The Colts.

644
00:28:43,696 --> 00:28:45,656
Speaker 3: There's probably gonna be some question marks there with Daniel

645
00:28:45,696 --> 00:28:48,456
Speaker 3: Jones health and everything else. Houston's Houston. You're going to

646
00:28:48,536 --> 00:28:50,576
Speaker 3: have to deal with that defense. But I do think

647
00:28:50,616 --> 00:28:53,096
Speaker 3: that they're a team that is upgraded enough to where

648
00:28:53,096 --> 00:28:54,976
Speaker 3: they can be competitive week in week out, and you

649
00:28:55,016 --> 00:28:56,815
Speaker 3: have to have the ball go your way sometimes.

650
00:28:57,056 --> 00:28:59,936
Speaker 2: The NFL is now exploring a Thanksgiving Eve game. I

651
00:28:59,976 --> 00:29:05,815
Speaker 2: saw that, thoughts great to me to love it. Are like,

652
00:29:05,816 --> 00:29:09,376
Speaker 2: oh runner, edi' me. I don't you guys are playing football?

653
00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:11,336
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you talking about it? So the day

654
00:29:11,376 --> 00:29:14,696
Speaker 3: before Thanksgiving I get something to watch one hundred Yeah,

655
00:29:14,696 --> 00:29:15,016
Speaker 3: I'm in.

656
00:29:15,256 --> 00:29:18,576
Speaker 2: I'm you know what, if I enjoy it, I'm gonna

657
00:29:18,576 --> 00:29:20,136
Speaker 2: be very selfish and I'm gonna want more of it,

658
00:29:20,176 --> 00:29:22,456
Speaker 2: just generally speaking. True. So and I also used to

659
00:29:22,496 --> 00:29:25,696
Speaker 2: work retail and when they would make us work Christmas Eve,

660
00:29:25,736 --> 00:29:29,096
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day, all I got paid overtime time and a half.

661
00:29:29,096 --> 00:29:30,936
Speaker 2: That's just part of nature of the Beast's.

662
00:29:30,656 --> 00:29:32,736
Speaker 3: Nature of the Beast when they're hanging out contracts like this.

663
00:29:32,736 --> 00:29:34,416
Speaker 3: This is kind of part of the nature of the beast.

664
00:29:34,576 --> 00:29:36,536
Speaker 3: The other great part about that for a player, at

665
00:29:36,576 --> 00:29:38,496
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you play on Wednesday, you're

666
00:29:38,536 --> 00:29:40,936
Speaker 3: home for Thanksgiving. I don't feel anything as sacred.

667
00:29:41,456 --> 00:29:45,936
Speaker 2: However, the only thing that I am happy about is

668
00:29:45,976 --> 00:29:48,816
Speaker 2: that unless you're the MAC and it does a little bit,

669
00:29:49,016 --> 00:29:51,416
Speaker 2: and the NFL really doesn't until after, is that nobody

670
00:29:51,696 --> 00:29:53,456
Speaker 2: really takes the steam out of high school football. I

671
00:29:53,456 --> 00:29:57,136
Speaker 2: think that's super cool of both college and NFL to

672
00:29:57,216 --> 00:30:00,696
Speaker 2: not go We're going to dominate Friday nights because they haven't.

673
00:30:00,696 --> 00:30:03,456
Speaker 2: For that reason, I think there's some integrity there. I'll

674
00:30:03,496 --> 00:30:06,976
Speaker 2: say it, there's integrity. Yeah, they haven't attacked Friday nights.

675
00:30:06,976 --> 00:30:07,376
Speaker 2: That's true.

676
00:30:07,416 --> 00:30:11,576
Speaker 3: But Fox also has their their football games. They put

677
00:30:11,616 --> 00:30:14,576
Speaker 3: college football games on. Now they've got their Friday Night.

678
00:30:14,696 --> 00:30:16,416
Speaker 2: But it's always almost like a weird one. It's like

679
00:30:16,496 --> 00:30:19,536
Speaker 2: Tupelo State versus your Mama Avenue, right, and it's like

680
00:30:19,816 --> 00:30:20,696
Speaker 2: it's not like a real one.

681
00:30:20,776 --> 00:30:22,256
Speaker 3: I mean, but for high school it's not like a

682
00:30:22,336 --> 00:30:23,856
Speaker 3: nationally televised scene this week.

683
00:30:23,976 --> 00:30:25,536
Speaker 2: But you don't have to choice, like do your high

684
00:30:25,536 --> 00:30:27,656
Speaker 2: school games happening in your town? You go to it.

685
00:30:27,696 --> 00:30:29,136
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry that you're going to miss

686
00:30:29,136 --> 00:30:30,575
Speaker 2: the freaking Bills and Patriots.

687
00:30:30,696 --> 00:30:33,696
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. Like, but people also could have

688
00:30:33,736 --> 00:30:36,496
Speaker 3: their phone there watching it.

689
00:30:36,536 --> 00:30:38,616
Speaker 2: From what I know, you're the world's best dad. That

690
00:30:38,616 --> 00:30:40,256
Speaker 2: does not happen, and we just bleep that just in

691
00:30:40,256 --> 00:30:41,416
Speaker 2: case anybody else was listening.

692
00:30:41,456 --> 00:30:44,976
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. That's in between games. Of course,

693
00:30:45,016 --> 00:30:46,616
Speaker 3: you know there's a lot of there's a lot of

694
00:30:46,616 --> 00:30:48,136
Speaker 3: weight time in between games.

695
00:30:48,216 --> 00:30:51,296
Speaker 2: Can ask your question, yes, about your kids athletic endeavors.

696
00:30:51,736 --> 00:30:54,536
Speaker 2: Is it crazy to see them be really good? It's

697
00:30:54,576 --> 00:30:56,575
Speaker 2: a lot of fun because I know you and your

698
00:30:56,576 --> 00:31:01,496
Speaker 2: wife were both premier athletes and now you're watching it.

699
00:31:01,536 --> 00:31:04,376
Speaker 2: All makes sense that it tracks genetically. Your kids, if

700
00:31:04,416 --> 00:31:07,256
Speaker 2: they want to pursue sports, are probably going to have

701
00:31:07,776 --> 00:31:11,136
Speaker 2: a decent genetic shot at it. Right. Is it so

702
00:31:11,296 --> 00:31:12,416
Speaker 2: cool to watch them dominate?

703
00:31:12,816 --> 00:31:15,256
Speaker 3: It is so much fun as a parent, but it's

704
00:31:15,256 --> 00:31:18,336
Speaker 3: also nerve wracking. It's crazy. I never thought about it

705
00:31:18,416 --> 00:31:21,096
Speaker 3: much when I played, of my parents being up in

706
00:31:21,136 --> 00:31:23,615
Speaker 3: the stands, or my siblings watching me or anything like that.

707
00:31:23,656 --> 00:31:27,776
Speaker 3: But when you go watch your kids, it's like you

708
00:31:27,936 --> 00:31:30,376
Speaker 3: want them to do well and at the same time,

709
00:31:30,536 --> 00:31:34,296
Speaker 3: you're going through the emotions of a game or a

710
00:31:34,336 --> 00:31:37,136
Speaker 3: bad moment or a tough play or even a tough

711
00:31:37,176 --> 00:31:39,656
Speaker 3: game where they get done and you feel that it's

712
00:31:39,736 --> 00:31:44,216
Speaker 3: just it's a different experience altogether, but it is awesome

713
00:31:44,296 --> 00:31:46,056
Speaker 3: to watch them. And then the other thing is just

714
00:31:46,216 --> 00:31:50,616
Speaker 3: helping them to understand it takes hard work, it takes discipline,

715
00:31:50,616 --> 00:31:53,855
Speaker 3: and while you're good now, it doesn't transition always unless

716
00:31:53,936 --> 00:31:55,896
Speaker 3: you put the work in and just trying to teach

717
00:31:55,896 --> 00:31:59,136
Speaker 3: them the standards that you have to set for them

718
00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:02,136
Speaker 3: so that they understand what it's going to take, because

719
00:32:02,176 --> 00:32:04,976
Speaker 3: you can't just lean on the fact that you're super

720
00:32:04,976 --> 00:32:07,256
Speaker 3: skilled right now and you're.

721
00:32:07,296 --> 00:32:09,536
Speaker 2: Better than some kids. What you have to do is

722
00:32:09,576 --> 00:32:11,615
Speaker 2: work at it. And so is there a part of

723
00:32:11,656 --> 00:32:15,416
Speaker 2: you that enjoys if they go through some athletic adversity.

724
00:32:15,216 --> 00:32:17,656
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, because that's not just an athletics, it's

725
00:32:17,656 --> 00:32:20,696
Speaker 3: in life and understanding that there's the hardest thing for

726
00:32:20,736 --> 00:32:26,176
Speaker 3: any kid to understand is failure. Is being able to

727
00:32:26,216 --> 00:32:28,576
Speaker 3: deal with failure, is being able to have that tough

728
00:32:28,616 --> 00:32:32,016
Speaker 3: game and not think that they're terrible and it's going

729
00:32:32,096 --> 00:32:34,575
Speaker 3: to consistently be that way, and We deal with it

730
00:32:34,576 --> 00:32:35,896
Speaker 3: with our kids all the time when they have a

731
00:32:35,896 --> 00:32:37,816
Speaker 3: tough game of how to approach it, and like dude

732
00:32:38,376 --> 00:32:42,536
Speaker 3: sports is or daughter sports is a game of failures.

733
00:32:42,616 --> 00:32:44,896
Speaker 3: You're going to fail, and you're going to have an

734
00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:47,496
Speaker 3: opportunity to learn from that failure. If you can learn

735
00:32:47,496 --> 00:32:50,136
Speaker 3: from the failure of what you did wrong, maybe it's

736
00:32:50,176 --> 00:32:52,696
Speaker 3: film study, maybe it was you were thinking it was

737
00:32:52,696 --> 00:32:55,736
Speaker 3: a different play, whatever it might be, then you can

738
00:32:55,776 --> 00:32:57,976
Speaker 3: get better and grow from that. Because I tell them

739
00:32:58,016 --> 00:32:59,575
Speaker 3: all the time, I learn more from my failures than

740
00:32:59,616 --> 00:33:02,256
Speaker 3: I ever did any of my successes. Because when you're

741
00:33:02,296 --> 00:33:05,856
Speaker 3: successful at something you did in some right, well, your

742
00:33:05,896 --> 00:33:08,456
Speaker 3: mind just kind of naturally you go through the motions

743
00:33:08,456 --> 00:33:10,136
Speaker 3: a little bit because you know how to do that

744
00:33:10,496 --> 00:33:12,656
Speaker 3: and you did it right. Whereas if you fail and

745
00:33:12,736 --> 00:33:15,776
Speaker 3: it's embarrassing and it's tough to have to cope with,

746
00:33:16,176 --> 00:33:18,896
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you have to have introspective

747
00:33:18,936 --> 00:33:21,416
Speaker 3: and look at it and go, Okay, how why did

748
00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,816
Speaker 3: that happen? How can I do it differently? How can

749
00:33:23,856 --> 00:33:24,656
Speaker 3: I get better from it?

750
00:33:26,496 --> 00:33:28,656
Speaker 2: Were your kids ever old enough when you were playing

751
00:33:28,816 --> 00:33:29,815
Speaker 2: to experience it with you?

752
00:33:31,416 --> 00:33:35,936
Speaker 3: My oldest daughter, my oldest daughter and my second daughter

753
00:33:36,016 --> 00:33:38,456
Speaker 3: were probably old enough to experience it, but they still

754
00:33:38,496 --> 00:33:38,976
Speaker 3: were young.

755
00:33:39,096 --> 00:33:41,815
Speaker 2: I'd say, memories of you playing, they do memory. It's

756
00:33:41,816 --> 00:33:42,576
Speaker 2: pretty cool. Yeah.

757
00:33:42,576 --> 00:33:44,296
Speaker 3: I mean, my oldest son was old enough to where

758
00:33:44,336 --> 00:33:45,896
Speaker 3: you can come in the locker room after the game,

759
00:33:45,936 --> 00:33:49,896
Speaker 3: which is such a special moment when you're a father

760
00:33:49,976 --> 00:33:52,416
Speaker 3: and you get to bring your kids on the field

761
00:33:52,456 --> 00:33:54,856
Speaker 3: after a game, or bring your son into a locker

762
00:33:54,896 --> 00:33:57,176
Speaker 3: room and get him to experience a victory where they

763
00:33:57,256 --> 00:33:59,536
Speaker 3: bring it up and everybody's screaming, yelling and doing all

764
00:33:59,536 --> 00:34:04,336
Speaker 3: that stuff. So that was pretty cool. My youngest son

765
00:34:04,616 --> 00:34:06,536
Speaker 3: got to come in by he was so young that

766
00:34:06,576 --> 00:34:09,616
Speaker 3: he probably doesn't realize it is I mean, have the

767
00:34:09,656 --> 00:34:12,496
Speaker 3: same memories of it. And then my youngest was just

768
00:34:12,536 --> 00:34:14,096
Speaker 3: a baby when I was at the tail end of

769
00:34:14,136 --> 00:34:15,976
Speaker 3: my career, so she doesn't remember me playing at all.

770
00:34:15,976 --> 00:34:17,456
Speaker 3: She just thinks to me, his dad, Dad, why are

771
00:34:17,496 --> 00:34:23,616
Speaker 3: you a home law? Would you work? He said, I'm

772
00:34:23,656 --> 00:34:24,576
Speaker 3: trying to that.

773
00:34:24,776 --> 00:34:27,056
Speaker 2: That's pretty funny. Hi, what he got over there? Give

774
00:34:27,056 --> 00:34:29,856
Speaker 2: me another one? Oh gosh, let's see here. I got

775
00:34:29,856 --> 00:34:32,216
Speaker 2: a whole stack, got a whole stack. Let's go.

776
00:34:33,176 --> 00:34:36,856
Speaker 3: There was a report that Tom Brady prevented the Patriots

777
00:34:37,296 --> 00:34:42,896
Speaker 3: from acquiring Max Crosby. One report suggests Tom Brady delivered

778
00:34:42,896 --> 00:34:45,776
Speaker 3: the Patriot Okay, yeah, yeah, after the Patriots missed out

779
00:34:45,816 --> 00:34:48,736
Speaker 3: on training for Max Crosby. A report from ESPN's Jeremy

780
00:34:49,096 --> 00:34:52,536
Speaker 3: Jeremy Fowler pointed to the possibility that Brady might have

781
00:34:52,616 --> 00:34:56,096
Speaker 3: prevented the star edge rusher from ending up in New England.

782
00:34:56,256 --> 00:34:59,296
Speaker 3: A person involved in the Crosby trade told Fowler that

783
00:34:59,336 --> 00:35:02,656
Speaker 3: there was no way Tom was sending Max to Mike Rabele.

784
00:35:03,216 --> 00:35:06,496
Speaker 2: So this is multi layered because it's not just Tom

785
00:35:06,536 --> 00:35:10,096
Speaker 2: Brady not wanting to send Max Crosby to his old team.

786
00:35:10,376 --> 00:35:13,016
Speaker 2: It's Tom Brady, the owner of the team that he's

787
00:35:13,096 --> 00:35:17,136
Speaker 2: on not wanting to send And in the end it

788
00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:18,696
Speaker 2: comes out as a bit of a wash because we

789
00:35:18,696 --> 00:35:20,656
Speaker 2: don't know where Crosby is going to go anyway, Right,

790
00:35:21,536 --> 00:35:24,096
Speaker 2: what do you think do you? I want to go

791
00:35:24,136 --> 00:35:26,256
Speaker 2: to both of you because we got a former Patriot

792
00:35:26,256 --> 00:35:32,816
Speaker 2: player and a Patriot super fan NERD, super fin nerd.

793
00:35:32,936 --> 00:35:36,536
Speaker 2: What do you think about this? I don't believe it.

794
00:35:37,096 --> 00:35:39,096
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, they're going to go

795
00:35:39,096 --> 00:35:41,976
Speaker 3: to the highest bidder, right, I don't know if the

796
00:35:41,976 --> 00:35:44,736
Speaker 3: Patriots what they even had in store for them in

797
00:35:44,816 --> 00:35:47,576
Speaker 3: terms of a package deal and how many first round

798
00:35:47,656 --> 00:35:49,736
Speaker 3: draft picks if it was a first round of second round,

799
00:35:49,816 --> 00:35:52,096
Speaker 3: whatever it might be. But if Baltimore comes to the

800
00:35:52,096 --> 00:35:55,456
Speaker 3: table gives you the sixteenth pick of this year's first

801
00:35:55,496 --> 00:35:58,576
Speaker 3: round and another first rounder the following year, I'm guessing

802
00:35:58,616 --> 00:36:01,936
Speaker 3: you're gonna go to whoever is giving you the most value.

803
00:36:02,096 --> 00:36:05,016
Speaker 3: And it doesn't have anything to do with whether or

804
00:36:05,056 --> 00:36:08,496
Speaker 3: not Rady. Why wouldn't Brady say yes to the Patriots

805
00:36:08,536 --> 00:36:10,176
Speaker 3: if they're offering a better deal?

806
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:12,536
Speaker 2: Right, So then I'll ask you, is there anything between

807
00:36:12,576 --> 00:36:14,096
Speaker 2: Brady and Brabel that we don't know about?

808
00:36:14,816 --> 00:36:17,056
Speaker 3: Not that I know of, Man, I can't imagine. I mean,

809
00:36:17,096 --> 00:36:19,976
Speaker 3: we played together for what seven years in the Patriots.

810
00:36:20,256 --> 00:36:23,016
Speaker 3: We're always close. I still talk. I'm sure he still

811
00:36:23,016 --> 00:36:24,416
Speaker 3: has a great relationship with him.

812
00:36:24,416 --> 00:36:26,216
Speaker 2: So what about when Brady said he couldn't root for

813
00:36:26,216 --> 00:36:27,176
Speaker 2: the Patriots win the Super Bowl?

814
00:36:27,536 --> 00:36:29,656
Speaker 3: Well, he's just you know, he's playing the media game.

815
00:36:29,696 --> 00:36:34,176
Speaker 3: He's he's announcing games, he's an over minority owner of

816
00:36:34,216 --> 00:36:37,016
Speaker 3: another team. I mean, he kind of plays the fence

817
00:36:37,056 --> 00:36:39,056
Speaker 3: on some things. If you would have just come out

818
00:36:39,096 --> 00:36:43,136
Speaker 3: and said I'm going for the Patriots and Patriots through

819
00:36:43,136 --> 00:36:43,496
Speaker 3: and through.

820
00:36:43,936 --> 00:36:46,736
Speaker 2: Let's go to super fan NERD kick off, Kevin Superfan Nerd.

821
00:36:46,736 --> 00:36:47,176
Speaker 2: What do you think?

822
00:36:47,256 --> 00:36:49,176
Speaker 5: Yeah, first I didn't believe it, But the more I'm

823
00:36:49,176 --> 00:36:51,136
Speaker 5: thinking about it, it just seems like these he piling on.

824
00:36:51,216 --> 00:36:52,336
Speaker 4: So I'm starting to believe it.

825
00:36:52,296 --> 00:36:54,496
Speaker 2: That that was my only point with even the not

826
00:36:54,536 --> 00:36:56,536
Speaker 2: saying he was rooting for the Patriots. And and I

827
00:36:56,576 --> 00:36:58,576
Speaker 2: think Castle's points. I find the media game, but there

828
00:36:58,616 --> 00:37:00,536
Speaker 2: just starts to be so so many.

829
00:37:00,776 --> 00:37:02,576
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's getting to the point now where I'm like,

830
00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:04,496
Speaker 5: is Brady becoming our endemy?

831
00:37:04,656 --> 00:37:07,176
Speaker 2: Can I bring up what can possibly be the scenario?

832
00:37:07,296 --> 00:37:08,696
Speaker 2: Can I do fictional scenario?

833
00:37:08,856 --> 00:37:09,896
Speaker 3: Yes, it's to fictional.

834
00:37:11,096 --> 00:37:16,096
Speaker 2: Let's say you are Thomas Brady, Yes, super Bowl champion,

835
00:37:16,496 --> 00:37:21,456
Speaker 2: toll seven time greatest quarterback of all times, six super

836
00:37:21,456 --> 00:37:25,336
Speaker 2: Bowls with the New England Patriots. Now do you want

837
00:37:25,856 --> 00:37:29,376
Speaker 2: a Patriots team that you're not on to start winning

838
00:37:29,376 --> 00:37:32,416
Speaker 2: Super Bowls? Don't you like it? If you're Tom Brady

839
00:37:32,456 --> 00:37:35,856
Speaker 2: that you were the last king Dingling of the Patriots,

840
00:37:35,896 --> 00:37:38,336
Speaker 2: and what do you like? A bigger gap in time

841
00:37:38,416 --> 00:37:40,816
Speaker 2: from when you won your super bowls and you were

842
00:37:40,896 --> 00:37:44,736
Speaker 2: mister awesome to someone else being mister Awesome in New England. Therefore,

843
00:37:44,816 --> 00:37:49,976
Speaker 2: you may keep other amazing players from going to New England.

844
00:37:50,496 --> 00:37:54,096
Speaker 2: That is the suggestion that I have, as far as

845
00:37:54,096 --> 00:37:57,336
Speaker 2: my fictional brain thoughts. Is that how you would view

846
00:37:57,376 --> 00:38:00,736
Speaker 2: it if you were Tom Brady. For sure, as soon

847
00:38:00,736 --> 00:38:02,296
Speaker 2: as I left, the Patriots did not suffer.

848
00:38:02,376 --> 00:38:05,336
Speaker 3: You want them to go back into the NFL per

849
00:38:05,576 --> 00:38:07,456
Speaker 3: tory and just be at the bottom of the barrel.

850
00:38:07,536 --> 00:38:08,976
Speaker 2: It's not long. I'm pretty sure.

851
00:38:09,656 --> 00:38:15,616
Speaker 3: Tom's confident enough and in his resume, in his legacy

852
00:38:15,976 --> 00:38:19,536
Speaker 3: that whoever comes next after him, nobody will ever live

853
00:38:19,616 --> 00:38:21,976
Speaker 3: up to what he set the standard.

854
00:38:21,616 --> 00:38:24,056
Speaker 2: To, especially if he's sabotaging them.

855
00:38:23,656 --> 00:38:26,416
Speaker 3: Especially if he's doing that putting trip wire in the building.

856
00:38:26,496 --> 00:38:29,456
Speaker 2: Yes, submit though, and I know you don't agree, and

857
00:38:29,536 --> 00:38:31,896
Speaker 2: you don't have to think that I am at all,

858
00:38:32,216 --> 00:38:34,416
Speaker 2: you know your right mind. But that's a pretty good theory,

859
00:38:34,416 --> 00:38:35,896
Speaker 2: and I just came up with it.

860
00:38:35,576 --> 00:38:39,216
Speaker 3: It's it's a good theory if if that was the case.

861
00:38:40,016 --> 00:38:41,136
Speaker 2: Maybe that do you want to know how I came

862
00:38:41,216 --> 00:38:43,976
Speaker 2: up with it? Because I am so wildly insecure that

863
00:38:44,016 --> 00:38:45,976
Speaker 2: I thought that's what I would do if I were

864
00:38:45,976 --> 00:38:48,815
Speaker 2: in the same same exact position as Tom Rady.

865
00:38:48,976 --> 00:38:51,056
Speaker 5: I was thinking that as like competitor, not insecure, But

866
00:38:51,096 --> 00:38:51,856
Speaker 5: that works too.

867
00:38:52,696 --> 00:38:55,016
Speaker 2: It's like they're not they're not. They're not going to

868
00:38:55,736 --> 00:38:59,056
Speaker 2: play maybe once. They're not on the same division, right,

869
00:38:59,096 --> 00:39:00,856
Speaker 2: so they're not playing twice a year for sure.

870
00:39:01,176 --> 00:39:03,456
Speaker 3: The only place that they would meet is in the playoffs.

871
00:39:04,696 --> 00:39:06,896
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is if I'm a former Patriot that

872
00:39:06,976 --> 00:39:09,256
Speaker 2: was dominating as a Patriot, and again I was king Dingling,

873
00:39:09,256 --> 00:39:11,296
Speaker 2: I don't want them dangling anytime soon. I want there

874
00:39:11,456 --> 00:39:14,496
Speaker 2: just to be such just people to beg for the

875
00:39:14,576 --> 00:39:16,456
Speaker 2: days of Tom Brady. Well, I would say this.

876
00:39:16,936 --> 00:39:19,896
Speaker 3: The only way that that theory would make sense to

877
00:39:19,936 --> 00:39:22,376
Speaker 3: me is if the Patriots would have won this year.

878
00:39:22,816 --> 00:39:25,096
Speaker 2: But they didn't. So they still won, Yeah, so they

879
00:39:25,096 --> 00:39:26,456
Speaker 2: still he's got keep winning.

880
00:39:26,496 --> 00:39:27,936
Speaker 4: But they did make it to the super Bowl and.

881
00:39:28,696 --> 00:39:30,056
Speaker 2: He didn't win the super Bowl.

882
00:39:30,096 --> 00:39:33,656
Speaker 3: So his legacy of being the last quarterback to win

883
00:39:34,056 --> 00:39:37,176
Speaker 3: for the Patriots six six super bowls there, that's not

884
00:39:37,216 --> 00:39:38,456
Speaker 3: even threatened at that point.

885
00:39:38,336 --> 00:39:41,456
Speaker 2: And nor will it be because Max Crosby, the problem,

886
00:39:41,496 --> 00:39:44,576
Speaker 2: the second best pass rusher in the NFL, is not going.

887
00:39:44,856 --> 00:39:47,416
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's got an the issue that that's true.

888
00:39:47,696 --> 00:39:49,056
Speaker 4: Depending on who you asked.

889
00:39:48,696 --> 00:39:51,816
Speaker 2: I I hear whispers on the streets that Brady is

890
00:39:51,856 --> 00:39:58,896
Speaker 2: the one that did the physical fun. And that's just

891
00:39:58,976 --> 00:40:01,536
Speaker 2: what's going to be interesting is to se him get

892
00:40:01,536 --> 00:40:04,256
Speaker 2: traded now because he do we think, we think he

893
00:40:04,296 --> 00:40:05,856
Speaker 2: has to get traded, right, Well he.

894
00:40:05,896 --> 00:40:07,816
Speaker 3: Got he's thirty million dollars salary.

895
00:40:07,976 --> 00:40:11,136
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to. He wants to go back to Vegas.

896
00:40:11,176 --> 00:40:13,456
Speaker 5: I assume Cassle, you ever been around a guy like that,

897
00:40:13,536 --> 00:40:15,696
Speaker 5: like almost got traded or whatever and then came.

898
00:40:15,536 --> 00:40:17,976
Speaker 3: Back, No, got traded and then came well, I know

899
00:40:18,096 --> 00:40:20,536
Speaker 3: you have I been around no like.

900
00:40:20,536 --> 00:40:22,816
Speaker 2: Who had to come back into the locker room like

901
00:40:22,856 --> 00:40:24,816
Speaker 2: that's he like? Then he said he showed up at

902
00:40:24,816 --> 00:40:27,176
Speaker 2: the facility for his treatment the next day. I was like,

903
00:40:27,416 --> 00:40:29,216
Speaker 2: oh god, it's like you have to go back to

904
00:40:29,256 --> 00:40:31,616
Speaker 2: like Hamilton. Guys, I'm telling you think I don't relate

905
00:40:31,656 --> 00:40:33,416
Speaker 2: to Max Crosby to have to go back and be

906
00:40:33,496 --> 00:40:34,976
Speaker 2: like so I know, I said, I was going. You

907
00:40:34,976 --> 00:40:37,536
Speaker 2: guys were all cool. I got him back, Yeah.

908
00:40:37,376 --> 00:40:39,136
Speaker 3: And the GM sitting there like, hey, I know we

909
00:40:39,216 --> 00:40:41,576
Speaker 3: tried to trade you, but I'm sorry about the.

910
00:40:41,496 --> 00:40:45,976
Speaker 2: Physical come on that had something like the Laker, the kid,

911
00:40:46,016 --> 00:40:47,336
Speaker 2: the white kid to play at Tennessee.

912
00:40:47,456 --> 00:40:50,776
Speaker 4: Yeah, not Austin re No, the other white connect the.

913
00:40:50,736 --> 00:40:53,576
Speaker 2: Other the other white guy Lakers where I think he

914
00:40:53,656 --> 00:40:58,056
Speaker 2: was going to Charlotte and you're out of here. But

915
00:40:58,096 --> 00:41:00,376
Speaker 2: then he didn't pass his physical. Charlotte guy didn't pass

916
00:41:00,376 --> 00:41:02,696
Speaker 2: his physical. So he's back in the locker room knowing

917
00:41:02,696 --> 00:41:05,136
Speaker 2: they wanted to trade him. Sorry about that.

918
00:41:05,376 --> 00:41:06,816
Speaker 3: It was just a mishap.

919
00:41:07,136 --> 00:41:25,815
Speaker 2: We really do still like you come back in them sense, honestly. Okay,

920
00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:32,096
Speaker 2: I'm gonna end with this top five free agency spending

921
00:41:32,216 --> 00:41:38,016
Speaker 2: by teams, and no, I'm going to say this because

922
00:41:38,056 --> 00:41:40,896
Speaker 2: I want to say this. I've been a Titans hater,

923
00:41:41,736 --> 00:41:45,736
Speaker 2: not because I generally dislike the Titans. I wish they

924
00:41:45,776 --> 00:41:49,256
Speaker 2: would win. I have felt like they haven't been committed

925
00:41:49,256 --> 00:41:52,696
Speaker 2: to winning, not because of the coaches or the players,

926
00:41:52,736 --> 00:41:55,376
Speaker 2: but because of up higher in the organization that starts

927
00:41:55,376 --> 00:41:55,776
Speaker 2: with the owner.

928
00:41:56,096 --> 00:41:57,296
Speaker 3: The non competitive.

929
00:41:57,376 --> 00:42:00,376
Speaker 2: The owner wasn't the owner wasn't letting the other folks

930
00:42:00,416 --> 00:42:04,936
Speaker 2: do their jobs, which made it, in my opinion, uncompetitive,

931
00:42:05,496 --> 00:42:09,616
Speaker 2: UH organization and frustrating. Thank you, so okay, number one though,

932
00:42:10,296 --> 00:42:14,016
Speaker 2: uh Titans number one, two hundred eighty eight million dollars

933
00:42:14,056 --> 00:42:16,536
Speaker 2: they've spent. They spent two hundred eight eight million dollars.

934
00:42:16,576 --> 00:42:19,656
Speaker 2: Shout out, Tied's my new favorite team. Let's go. Okay,

935
00:42:19,736 --> 00:42:23,656
Speaker 2: let's go. You're back on the Titan m hounding the table.

936
00:42:23,776 --> 00:42:25,536
Speaker 2: And if their helmets are what they're saying, I like

937
00:42:25,536 --> 00:42:26,016
Speaker 2: the helmets.

938
00:42:26,056 --> 00:42:28,776
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've got new swags and new stadiums

939
00:42:29,216 --> 00:42:30,096
Speaker 3: in the right direction.

940
00:42:30,856 --> 00:42:32,936
Speaker 2: At number two, the Raiders two hundred and eighty one million.

941
00:42:33,616 --> 00:42:36,296
Speaker 2: Good for the Raiders. Wow, they those two teams have

942
00:42:36,336 --> 00:42:39,136
Speaker 2: needed to spend money. They're Commanders. At number three, one

943
00:42:39,216 --> 00:42:42,256
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six million. Weird spot for the Commanders

944
00:42:42,256 --> 00:42:44,536
Speaker 2: because if any other quarterback, I think they would have

945
00:42:44,536 --> 00:42:47,056
Speaker 2: been pretty good last year. Yes, well, I mean just

946
00:42:47,096 --> 00:42:49,136
Speaker 2: look at what he did in his first year. What's crazy?

947
00:42:49,176 --> 00:42:51,096
Speaker 2: How Jane Daniels. There's another Jane Daniels to play the

948
00:42:51,176 --> 00:42:53,976
Speaker 2: Kansas Jean Lynn Daniels. I know, but I keeping every

949
00:42:53,976 --> 00:42:56,456
Speaker 2: time they say it's Jane Daniels to me because whenever

950
00:42:58,656 --> 00:43:01,696
Speaker 2: Carson's brother was on last week, Yeah, he kept saying it. Yes,

951
00:43:02,416 --> 00:43:04,856
Speaker 2: but I always think, because my my friend is the

952
00:43:04,856 --> 00:43:07,736
Speaker 2: head coach at Kansas. Oh really Yeah, and so Jalen

953
00:43:07,776 --> 00:43:09,856
Speaker 2: was this quarterback. But it's every time I say to

954
00:43:09,896 --> 00:43:12,416
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels. Every time they have two Jane Daniels in

955
00:43:12,416 --> 00:43:14,976
Speaker 2: the NFL. Now the Panthers are four. They spend a

956
00:43:15,016 --> 00:43:16,616
Speaker 2: hundred seenty five million bucks in the Saints at five

957
00:43:16,656 --> 00:43:20,856
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy million the bottom five. The Viking

958
00:43:20,936 --> 00:43:24,416
Speaker 2: spent twelve dollars. Yeah they Honestly, I didn't think they

959
00:43:24,456 --> 00:43:26,296
Speaker 2: have any cats space. They bought a you Who for

960
00:43:26,376 --> 00:43:28,936
Speaker 2: JJ McCartney. That's about what they got at the gas station.

961
00:43:29,936 --> 00:43:32,696
Speaker 2: The Viking have spent ten million dollars. The Eagles next

962
00:43:32,736 --> 00:43:35,616
Speaker 2: up fifteen million lions at thirty one, Falcons at thirty nine.

963
00:43:36,136 --> 00:43:38,256
Speaker 2: To be fair, if we give the Falcons the benefit

964
00:43:38,296 --> 00:43:40,576
Speaker 2: of the doubt, the Falcons are getting a quarterback very cheap,

965
00:43:40,856 --> 00:43:44,056
Speaker 2: very cheap, and the Jaguars are forty three million. So

966
00:43:44,096 --> 00:43:47,736
Speaker 2: those are your bottom five spenders. This is a crazy

967
00:43:47,736 --> 00:43:48,456
Speaker 2: time of year, mate.

968
00:43:48,496 --> 00:43:51,056
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of guys still out there

969
00:43:51,176 --> 00:43:53,496
Speaker 3: that will probably get signed in the later date. But obviously

970
00:43:53,616 --> 00:43:57,936
Speaker 3: this legal tampering phase, why do they call it legal tampering?

971
00:43:58,176 --> 00:44:01,656
Speaker 3: Just the word tampering itself makes it feel illegal. Just

972
00:44:01,696 --> 00:44:05,736
Speaker 3: say it's negotiation phase or whatever, but free agency started day.

973
00:44:06,056 --> 00:44:08,416
Speaker 2: Yeah, legal tampering is weird. It's like, oh, yeah, we're

974
00:44:08,416 --> 00:44:12,296
Speaker 2: gonna do some a loud murder, Like it didn't make

975
00:44:12,296 --> 00:44:16,536
Speaker 2: a lot of sense if that murder was. So this

976
00:44:16,656 --> 00:44:18,656
Speaker 2: was fun though, because there's finally stuff to talk about.

977
00:44:18,936 --> 00:44:20,976
Speaker 2: This is a lot of stuff to talk about.

978
00:44:20,696 --> 00:44:25,736
Speaker 3: It does you haven't, Like I said, I've been around

979
00:44:25,736 --> 00:44:27,416
Speaker 3: the league for a long time now, I've never seen

980
00:44:27,456 --> 00:44:30,936
Speaker 3: anything like this of that type of caliber.

981
00:44:30,456 --> 00:44:33,696
Speaker 2: Player, number one, one of the number.

982
00:44:33,456 --> 00:44:36,736
Speaker 3: One defensive players in the in the entire NFL, just

983
00:44:37,096 --> 00:44:39,296
Speaker 3: failing physical and then saying no, we we don't believe

984
00:44:39,296 --> 00:44:39,896
Speaker 3: he's gonna heal.

985
00:44:39,936 --> 00:44:44,656
Speaker 2: Correctly, I don't think he failed the physical. I just

986
00:44:45,456 --> 00:44:48,976
Speaker 2: I don't. And then if I were to pick, my

987
00:44:49,056 --> 00:44:51,416
Speaker 2: favorite place for Max Crosby to go would be the

988
00:44:51,456 --> 00:44:54,216
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. And I'm not a Cowboys fan, but he's

989
00:44:54,256 --> 00:44:56,696
Speaker 2: a perfect Dallas cow Oh wow, I didn't even think

990
00:44:56,696 --> 00:45:01,456
Speaker 2: of that, big loud, brash fans love.

991
00:45:01,376 --> 00:45:03,416
Speaker 3: Him to do him with the star and his helmet

992
00:45:03,576 --> 00:45:07,056
Speaker 3: just sparkling on the outside and nine technique come into rage.

993
00:45:07,376 --> 00:45:11,096
Speaker 2: He'd be a perfect Dallas Cowboy. And they've got They've

994
00:45:11,136 --> 00:45:13,496
Speaker 2: got some draft picks that they can trade for him too, But.

995
00:45:13,456 --> 00:45:14,896
Speaker 4: They just got Rashaun Gary.

996
00:45:15,056 --> 00:45:17,136
Speaker 2: Yes they did. That was a huge That was the

997
00:45:17,296 --> 00:45:20,296
Speaker 2: trade for him. Yeah, they could trade off that big screen,

998
00:45:20,456 --> 00:45:22,376
Speaker 2: just trade that for him. Yeah. I was like, Babe,

999
00:45:22,456 --> 00:45:24,376
Speaker 2: ruths can trade for like a play back in the day,

1000
00:45:24,416 --> 00:45:25,016
Speaker 2: that's what they need.

1001
00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:27,136
Speaker 3: They had the worst Dallas and had the worst defense

1002
00:45:27,176 --> 00:45:29,376
Speaker 3: in the league. They give up thirty one points a game.

1003
00:45:30,496 --> 00:45:31,496
Speaker 3: Go get Max Crosby.

1004
00:45:31,536 --> 00:45:33,216
Speaker 2: I love that. Do you like playing with Dallas? Is

1005
00:45:33,256 --> 00:45:35,296
Speaker 2: it fun? It was awesome. I would think that would

1006
00:45:35,296 --> 00:45:37,136
Speaker 2: be like a such a funny place to play.

1007
00:45:37,296 --> 00:45:39,616
Speaker 3: Incredible, and it's Jerry's world and all that stuff. But

1008
00:45:39,856 --> 00:45:41,696
Speaker 3: when you put that star on your helmet and you

1009
00:45:41,736 --> 00:45:44,936
Speaker 3: go out and the fans are just they love their

1010
00:45:45,016 --> 00:45:48,656
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys and it's just got that history behind it,

1011
00:45:48,656 --> 00:45:49,616
Speaker 3: it's pretty special.

1012
00:45:49,896 --> 00:45:52,176
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not a Cowboys fan. I'm not a Cowboys hater.

1013
00:45:52,256 --> 00:45:54,376
Speaker 2: All my friends are Cowboys fans, so sometimes I'm a hater.

1014
00:45:54,496 --> 00:45:57,216
Speaker 2: But I think that would be a really cool team

1015
00:45:57,256 --> 00:45:59,096
Speaker 2: to play for, especially.

1016
00:45:58,736 --> 00:46:02,056
Speaker 3: Because I grew up in the Heyday and my dad

1017
00:46:02,176 --> 00:46:04,976
Speaker 3: was from Lubbock, Texas, so he was already a Dallas

1018
00:46:05,016 --> 00:46:07,736
Speaker 3: Cowboy fan. So that's what I grew up watching was

1019
00:46:07,776 --> 00:46:10,216
Speaker 3: the Apeman years and j Novachek and Michael or v

1020
00:46:10,216 --> 00:46:12,016
Speaker 3: and and Emmett Smith and all these guys in the

1021
00:46:12,056 --> 00:46:14,696
Speaker 3: Super Bowl winning so did when I got Trey there

1022
00:46:14,816 --> 00:46:16,176
Speaker 3: was pretty special.

1023
00:46:16,336 --> 00:46:19,056
Speaker 2: I'd say, just because it's just so ingrained in your

1024
00:46:19,096 --> 00:46:23,376
Speaker 2: mind growing up. I'd like to end with saying, your

1025
00:46:23,416 --> 00:46:25,336
Speaker 2: beard looks good, don't. I don't want you to shave

1026
00:46:25,376 --> 00:46:26,776
Speaker 2: it or start to feel weird about it, because the

1027
00:46:26,816 --> 00:46:28,656
Speaker 2: last time you did, you were like, people are going

1028
00:46:28,736 --> 00:46:31,256
Speaker 2: to think that I I don't even know. I don't

1029
00:46:31,256 --> 00:46:32,696
Speaker 2: even know where you said.

1030
00:46:32,736 --> 00:46:33,296
Speaker 3: I said something.

1031
00:46:33,536 --> 00:46:35,096
Speaker 2: Well, you were like, They're not gonna take me seriously.

1032
00:46:35,136 --> 00:46:38,696
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a professional. Yeah, you can say,

1033
00:46:38,696 --> 00:46:42,296
Speaker 2: oh you like young, you been working.

1034
00:46:42,456 --> 00:46:44,576
Speaker 3: Oh dude, look at I got the little white white.

1035
00:46:44,416 --> 00:46:45,936
Speaker 2: Hairs coming in. I know you see it close in

1036
00:46:45,976 --> 00:46:49,016
Speaker 2: the mirror. You can't. You can't tell it. It's good. Yeah, no, thanks,

1037
00:46:49,056 --> 00:46:50,856
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep it now. All right, Look, thank

1038
00:46:50,896 --> 00:46:54,176
Speaker 2: you guys for being here. That's Mac Assle, that's Kickoff Kevin,

1039
00:46:54,216 --> 00:46:56,096
Speaker 2: that's Brandon Ray and Bobby Bones. We've had lots to

1040
00:46:56,096 --> 00:46:57,616
Speaker 2: say we will see you guys, so and by everybody

1041
00:46:57,936 --> 00:46:58,416
Speaker 2: see you.

1042
00:47:04,056 --> 00:47:06,256
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1043
00:47:06,256 --> 00:47:09,856
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