WEBVTT - Kool Rock Ski "Buff Wanted to Line it up w/ Doug E. Fresh" 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:06.880 We's abning, we's abning. What's abning? It's your boy, big Steeal. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:09.440 I gotta fly solo today, man, and my boy is 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.280 gonna be mad. Man. I'm covering from my boy. I 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.600 had to do it though, covering from my boy m 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.159 C eight today. He got some stuff going on, but 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.759 he'd be back with us next week. But anyway, it's 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:22.720 not too many times, you know what. I get excited 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.599 with every guest that we have on here, man, but 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.120 it's very very rare. Did I get somebody on? Man? 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.560 I feel like I'm back being a little kid man 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.720 going to Thomas Jefferson man with my boombox, with my 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.360 ghetto blast man bumping the fat boys. I can't even 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.960 get my human beat box on no more. I see 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:41.479 I can't get it right. I can't do it. I 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.560 can't do it as good as you can. You bless 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.000 me one time with a little something. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:50.559 Man, Dude. I never Buff never taught me. Buff never 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:50.960 dot me. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:53.960 You never do you never You never learned how to 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:54.680 human beatbox? 0:00:55.640 --> 0:01:00.640 Yeah, he never never taught me, man. I just I 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:01.960 just watched them the distance. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.640 Man. We got the legendary man cool rock Ski Man 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.720 from the Fat Boys from the Disco Three, then the 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.120 Fat Boys, a real, real legend in the game with 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.400 true legend. You know, people running around with that term 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:22.800 legend man, and I think it's overly used when you say, 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:24.000 it's very. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.680 Over legend the world. Yeah, the word legend the world 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:31.679 goat overly everybody's a goat and bodies of legend. You 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:41.680 know you are. I think that the group is legendary 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:46.800 and we came from legendary times, you understand. So I 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.600 think the Moniker that have to be greatest of all time. 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.280 I mean, you have to cover all bases within the 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.720 realms of rap hip hop. So I think I don't 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.400 think there's a true goat. I think there's a lot 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.520 of guys who are top tier when it comes to 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:09.359 lyrics and even DJing, but I don't think they could 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.560 be one true best. They can't be. It's too many 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.560 that came out from you know, from the eighties, nineties, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.320 two thousands, So they can never be one great because 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.160 it's gonna if you put that person that's saying he's 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.160 the greatest of all time, you're gonna see, well, he 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.640 didn't cover this base, he didn't cover that base, you understand. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.240 So I don't think they could be. They can ever 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.400 be one greatest of all time, you know. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.880 Yeh probably. Now you know what, if it's uncomfortable holding 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.280 it that way, you could put it back how it was. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.000 Bro No, be good? Oh what good? 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.200 You're good? Okay? Yeah, the thing is this, man, I 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.280 agree with you, But then again, I have to look 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.440 at it like this from the Eric y'all come from 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:58.000 one from the Eritic y'all come from bro from the area. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.600 You gotta remember y'all was around. That's the kind of 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.600 like exception, especially when hip hop became kind of commercialized. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.040 You always like the first, you know, like mainstream group, 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.880 one of the first. You guys are run DMC. Right. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.079 I would have to say that you guys are gold 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:13.960 because it wasn't that many people around. I think it 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.880 was harder back then because you guys were building something 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.320 that wasn't in existence before. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.000 Yeah, I mean we came from the era we was 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.240 like the second tier. So let's go back to the 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:30.880 era of the seventies. I would say seventy eight, seventy nine, 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.600 eighty eighty one, eighty two. You had groups like Splash 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.720 in the series five, you had Touchers three, Fantastic Romantic five. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.120 You had Couch four, you had BUSB, you had love 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:48.160 Buck Starsky, you had Curtis Blow Yeah, Funky four plus one. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.840 So you had an array of rap groups and rappers 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.440 that came out of New York and most of them 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.400 came out of the Bronx, were from Brooklyn, most of 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.280 them came out of the Bronx from Bronx and Hall 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.960 them and so bun DMC coming out of the Queens in 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.840 nineteen eighty three with Suckmsdeeds and so we pretty much 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.960 with the second tier. We came maybe eighty four right 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.840 after run DMC had maybe a couple of hits. Then 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:21.200 come Arst and Udini and Rundy, I mean luj Beastie Boys, Publicademy, 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.040 in an array of different rap groups and rappers coming along, 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:29.600 every being rock YIM EPMD. So we were just I 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.240 would say, we just we just learned a lot of 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.360 stuff from our predecessors, which were, like I said, Flashing 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.920 the threies five and those guys, and we just took 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.919 what they They kind of handed us the baton that 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.479 we ran with the Remember you got realized that there 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.360 was no marketing for sugar Hill game Run and then 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.680 in Flash series five and Curtis Blow. All these guys. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.440 Once we came into the game and led by Run DMC, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.160 that's when the marketing and money started coming in. So 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.919 that's where we came in as far as pushing the 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.240 culture forward with the rap tours. The first rap tour 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:11.960 which was the first Festival one and two which consisted 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.560 of Fat Boys, Run DMC who Denie, Curtis Blow and 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.560 Nucleus So and the second tour was the same thing, 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.479 and we added on Flashing series five and so it 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.920 was it was a thing where rappers starting to explode. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.559 By the time Crush Groove came out, that's when raps 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:36.080 started to really take off. The movie Crush Grove and 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:41.480 the way of everybody wanted to be rapper exactly. So 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.640 it was I wouldn't say we were goats. I wouldn't 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.680 say that we we put We was pushing the full 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.520 pushing the culture forward. 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.960 So you don't have to say it, Brumer, say it 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.560 for you. I'm gonna tell you. On so many levels, man, 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:02.680 while you guys were important, you guys paved the way 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.880 later on for the mc hammers on up to the 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.440 you know, even talk about today. The mega started, like 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.400 the Drake, the Kendrick Lamar, you know, the mega started 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.320 the people that are just on a whole nother you know, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.239 and the whole nother stratosphere. And it was very important. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.600 I remember man seeing the fresh fest Man in Cleveland, Ohio, 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.240 and I remember being, so, do you remember that show? 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.800 You probably did so many of them, you don't remember 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:27.360 that one? 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:33.800 Remember the show in Cleveland, Ohio? Let me see. Let 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.080 me see. We did a couple of shows in Cleveland, Ohio. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.599 But that's where I met. If you're familiar with the 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:44.480 group Men at Large, do you know who they are? Well? 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:45.160 Yeah, for sure. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.360 So I met one of the guys for Men at 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.279 Large and that was my first time I think, on 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.440 the Cleveland So I don't think that was the I 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.440 think that was down the road though. But the first 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:04.320 fresh Fest going to Cleveland, I probably vaguely remember. We 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.240 were going to stow Man. We're so young, you know 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.640 what I'm saying. So we're going to so many different places. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.360 What I mean, what was the capacity of the place 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:19.680 that we played in? Was it h was it five 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.720 thousand seed or twenty twelve thousand? 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.480 Man? I think the fresh fest Man if I had 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.080 to go back and think about it, man, it might 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.720 have been five or six thousand people. I know, whatever 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.240 it was, I was, whatever it was, it was pack 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.040 and I had never seen that many people in my 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.040 life in one place. And just the energy of it, 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.320 because you know, it was so new, just the feel 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:44.400 of the energy of everything. I would have to say, Man, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.120 back then, I think the performances were way better. I 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:51.840 think the performances were very much more choreographed. I think 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.800 it was just a lot better. You know, you see 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.160 these guys now, it's one hundred dudes standing on stage. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.480 You don't know who the rapperls and you know, it's 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.000 just a dude walking back and forth for the most part. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.040 With the average rapper. Now, there are some exceptional performers 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.760 out here today, some brothers that get busy. I ain't 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.200 gonna say they all trash. But then you had to 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.200 come with it. Everybody came with it back then. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.200 I think back then, well, well back then for me, 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:20.280 it was a thing where if you didn't have a 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.080 good record, you had to have a good stage show. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.240 You understand what I'm saying, so, but wellbe we rephras 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:32.000 that if your record wasn't really selling, it wasn't that popular. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.440 Who had to have had to have a really good 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.679 stage show in order to compete with those who were 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.760 selling and who were popular. So a lot of the times, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.839 a lot of rappers who got on stage with us 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.160 in one DMC and Houdini and others, they didn't have 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.440 big record sales, but they can perform their asses off. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:53.000 So that's what propelled them down the line to start 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.520 selling records because they went all out. They didn't hold 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:00.320 nothing back. I think what we have now is a 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.280 lot of cats who were just getting on stage and 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.920 just mimic, you know, wrapping over their vocals and letting 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.720 the crowd do the rapping for them or doing the 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.080 performance for them. You know, they'll put the mic up 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.200 to the crowd and like you know that. You can 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.959 pretty much get online and have somebody do that, you 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:20.040 know what I'm saying. But you know, so you can 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.160 have it all. You can have an i G and 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.360 have people just coming your I G and do something 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:29.160 like that. But I think there's a lot of great 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:34.240 entertainers as far as rappers. D m X was a 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:45.520 really really great and yeah, yeah, yeah, that whole hip hop. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:48.480 Go ahead. 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.920 Well, bro no, I just said he personified like that, 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.120 that whole hip hop or as far as him just 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:01.200 being just on stage and just the one man band 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.080 or like a one man record machine, and he just 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.280 like he was the ahead of me of what hip 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.640 hop is, you understand. So with him in LL and 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.480 guys like ice Cube and and and you see guys 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.720 like that on stage and it just drip hip hop. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:22.040 He understands. So that's what that's what performances is all about, 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:22.840 you know. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:29.000 Yeah, what you know what? I'm gonna give you one example, man. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.160 I think it's because a lot of these a lot 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.080 of these guys, they man, they just kind of stumbling 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.120 to record deals, right, they stumbling, not their professional right, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.000 and all of a suddenly in front of fifteen twenty 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.800 thousand people, and nobody is really taught them. I think 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.360 a classic example of that is T Grizzly. It's young 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.160 rapper now out of Detroit. I love T Grizzly. I 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.040 love the record he had, I love the way, I 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.280 love his energy, I love his lyricism. But you can 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.840 tell when he was new, he had this record that 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.199 was going viral, and he was just kind of thrusting 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.120 the spot, like and he was just on stage with 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.360 the mic holding it, like, just kind of standing there 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.559 in the crowd, was singing the record and he was 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.319 just kind of just standing And I said, man, when 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.880 they start doing that, yeah. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.520 He had to. When we were going out on tour 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:19.400 and doing shows, we had rehearsal. You had to rehearse. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.240 You couldn't just go out there and win it. You know, 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.440 you couldn't just rely on the crowd. You couldn't just 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.640 rely on yourself being popular and selling records and having 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.600 a popular song or a popular album and just going 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.280 on stage and just standing there, because after two to 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.120 three minutes, the crowd is gonna look at you like, Okay, 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.080 what's next, because you're not doing anything you understand. So 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.520 you might even get booed in some cases or some cities. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.400 But I've heard of tem Grizzly. I know he's big 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.920 with the gaming stuff online. But you know, I've seen 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.880 a lot of cats like that who just who are 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.640 thrust on stage and it's like, okay, here's the stage. 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.679 You got a popular song, and you got a hit 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:02.320 record or you hit song. Ever, now just do what 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.520 you gotta do. And you can't you gotta put together 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:10.920 a show. You gotta do rehearsal, the whole, the whole, 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.400 the whole thing with crowd participation is cool, but after 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.520 a while it starts to play itself out because from 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.280 city to city that you go to, somebody's gonna go 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.959 to the next city and say, Yo, his song is dope, 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.400 but his performance sucks, and the word gonna start getting around, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.920 and now you can go viral being being Hordbor on stage. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:34.960 It is not it can't be. It's not just the 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.000 word of mouth thing anymore. You can go viral. Somebody 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.120 can have a cameraphone and you know what I'm saying 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.680 and be like and that that can really mess up 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.760 your career. So you got to You gotta put together 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.200 a show. You can't just win it. You know. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.240 Well, I'm gonna tell you, man, what the thing is 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.360 too that the internet messed up. I remember Cancer be 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.240 on their promo tour and they would say the same 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.120 rep every city that you know, they go to a 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.560 different city in Denver, they say the same rap on 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.800 the radio. They go to text, they say the same rep. 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.880 Now you do that, now, man, you gonna get this radio. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:06.559 You canna be on the Internet. They're like, man, let's 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:10.199 do the saying the same rhyme every every city. You 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.400 know what I'm saying. So you gotta be on point now, man, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.520 I think it's a lot more pressure nowadays. Man, you 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.600 gotta come with it every time. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.520 It's not more question, it's not more quessure because all 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.600 the eyes are on you now, the world is on 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.040 you because you're on social media, you understand. So social 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.600 media is not that it's not just a domestic tool. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.719 It's it's a worldwide tool. So you can't just keep 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.520 doing the same thing, can keep doing something stupid or 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.559 something unprofessional, because it's going to reach the whole world. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.800 You know, it's not just it's not just gonna reach 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.199 your neighborhood, you know. So a lot of people got 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.880 a misconception about social media, thinking, oh, it's only the 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.320 people that's following me that's watching me. Because once you 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.719 make something go viral, everybody's watching it. So if you're 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:57.960 doing something idiotic, the whole world is watching you, understand. So, yeah, 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.240 so you gotta be mindful of yourself as an audience 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.760 on the things you do on state because might it 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.520 might propel you if you're doing something good and it 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.640 might harm you if you're doing something bad and unprofessional. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:13.839 Oh yeah, without a doubt. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:14.120 Man. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.679 Now I was talking to you offline. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:17.840 Man. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.080 We were talking and we just had the fifty years 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.760 of hip hop, man, and I was really upset, man, 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:28.200 because they they you know, the fat boys, groups like 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:32.560 the Fat Boys, groups like Houdini, just all of these 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.360 pivotal groups, Man, that laid the foundation for what hip 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.880 hop is today. For to even be a fifty years 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:39.960 you know, you guys were in the area when they 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.920 was talking about. Man, this is a fat it's not 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.480 gonna last long, but y'all came with it, and y'all 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.440 made it an industry. Y'all, y'all created You guys were 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.760 at the exception at the forefront of a billion dollar, 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.120 multi bigion dollar industry, right. And I didn't hear no 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.760 mention of the fat boys. Man kissed me off. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.000 Yeah, I didn't get the call. I talked to y'all 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.160 live from Houdini. He didn't get the call from a 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:06.520 lot of shows that were going on. But at the 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:11.200 same time, a lot of the shows that I heard about, 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.160 people was coming back to me saying, Yo, they offered 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.760 me like fifteen hundred dollars offered me like two thousand, 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.320 you know, seventeen hundred, and I'm like, well, I'm not 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.000 doing that, you understand. So it's a thing where I 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.320 wasn't really reaching out because I already knew the twicis so, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.280 and I had a couple of people reach out to 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:34.040 me and you know, like eight hundred to like twenty 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.480 three hundred. I'm like, dude, I'm not I'm good. I'm 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.760 not going out what I'm saying, and it's not just 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.240 we did it. Yeah, it's very disrespectful, and we did 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.840 it for the culture. So when people try to use that, oh, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.160 do it for the culture, bs, I'm like, we did 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.160 it for the culture in eighty when we first started 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.280 the contract and we put our hit records that we 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.720 did crutch for we did this orders, so we did 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.840 it for the culture already. So why can't we be 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.280 paid for what we put out there already. 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.480 Well, I'm gonna tell you that that promoter is telling 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:04.960 you to do it for the culture. He's not doing 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.040 it for doing it to get. 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:10.600 Paid exactly exactly. And a lot of these cats were 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.120 a lot of these promoters. On the fiftieth anniversary of 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.600 hip hop or doing it to put money in their pockets. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.240 So everywhere you went, everything was a fiftieth anniversary, where 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.320 before a year prior to that, you see nothing about that. 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.640 Now everybody was trying to hop on the bandwagon, because 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.440 in twenty and twenty four, what two twenty three it was, 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.520 I think it was everybody was talking about the fifty 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.160 University of hip Hop, and I thought people was just 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.480 using it, you know, and milking it for all it 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.560 was worth, because a lot of people didn't know even 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.400 when hip hop even started to even say the fiftieth 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.360 Anniversity of hip. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.920 Hop, but a lot of people. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.920 So I fell back from a lot of Yeah, I 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.720 fell back from a lot of shows, and I was like, 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.480 I'm good. I don't need your little twenty three hundred dollars. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.800 I'm good over here. So you know, so I didn't 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.520 even participate in a lot of that stuff. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.200 Yeah, that's very disrespectful. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:02.480 You know. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.679 I take what I do very serious, man, because I 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.360 feel like we're documenting history right here. So when we 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.320 do have the one hundred years of hip hop, they 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.120 would be able to go back for the first time 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:15.920 in human history, they would be able to go back 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:20.720 to fifty years ago to see Okay, who were the 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.480 Fat Boys? Okay, you know the last member of the 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.000 Fat Boys, the last five member. You know, he's on 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.680 this show called The gangst the Chronicles. We can go 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.040 back and kind of get the history. With that being said, 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.359 I'm gonna do justus because this may be in the 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.639 time capful. They may be looking at this interview twenty 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.800 years from now. You feel me, So, I want to 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.280 go back to the beginning man of the Fat Boys, man, 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.800 you know, and not to do the traditional thing. But 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:44.680 but how did y'all meet? 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:45.199 Man? Like? 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.199 Like, how did the Fat Boys look up? 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.840 Me and Mark grew up together? I was eight and 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:58.000 uncle seven. Oh. I met Buff like around I was 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:02.520 thirteen or going on thirteen year Buff was going on. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.320 When I was thirteen, Buff was going Buff was going 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.960 on thirteen that summer I met him and Mark was twelve. 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.720 So we met one another and we kind of bonded easily. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.080 We just bonded with all the kids in the block 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.399 that we grew up with, maybe like about fifteen to 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.879 twenty of us that was running around together. It was 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:29.360 us three that was always together. And I loved for football. 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.399 We had a huge love for football. At first. That 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.119 was our passion was playing football. So we you know, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:40.600 through junior high school on into high school. We're playing 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.240 football in the weekends and I joined the team, but 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.080 I couldn't play the position I wanted to play. I 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.919 left the team, and being that Buff went to the 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.120 same high school with me, he left the team also. 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.760 Mark went to a different high school and we went 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.480 to a school high school called Thomas Jefferson High School. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:02.359 Mark went to a high school called Narci and so 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.720 we were always interrap though always inter rap because being 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.679 that Buff was a beat box, and we discovered he 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.400 was a beatbox one day he had moved on the block. 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.320 When Buff first moved on the block, there was a 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.199 song called a Field a Heartbeat by Treacherous Three, and 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.760 being that Kumo d was one of my favorite MCNs, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.120 I started reciting his rohms in one of the mini 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.080 lots that we had on our block, and Buff started 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.320 beat boxing and was me buffing another childhood friend by 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.080 the name of Jimmy, and we were like, yo, what 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.400 was that sound you made? And he did it again, 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.879 So we started checking his pockets to see if he 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.480 had a gadget in his pocket or something, because we 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:43.720 just thought he was weird by doing it because it 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.399 was so powerful. It wasn't that he was doing something 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.520 like mimicking something. He was He sounded like an actual drum. 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.280 And this is like a fourteen year old kid. So 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.120 once we found out he had no gadgets in his pockets, 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.560 nothing like that, We're like, oh, this guy's it's weird, 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:02.240 you know what I'm saying, because he's a new kid 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.920 on the block. And so man, it became really cool. 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.560 We became really close and I introduced him to Mark, 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.639 and Mark Mark became good friends with him, and we 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.240 just started hanging out together all the time. So you 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.000 fast forward to our freshman year in high school. Me 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:22.000 and Boffer in the same high school and his brother 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.840 had turntables. His brother had two certain tables and the 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.240 mixer and the microphone. And when his brother would go 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.760 to work, his brother was like maybe six seventy years 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.320 older than him. When his brother would go to work, 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.200 we would skip our last period class in high school 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:39.880 and go to Buff's house and you know, just use 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:41.840 the turntables and I get on the mic and wrap 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.240 and Mark could do the same thing. And his brother 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.439 would come home for work, me like around six o'clock 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.520 in the evening, and the first thing he would do 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.360 he would feel the mixer see if somebody was using it, 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.359 and nine times out of ten we were using it. 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.359 And he would just beat the hell like a pop 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.520 for me and Markuld laughing walk his brother's the Mark. 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:03.399 But it was all in fun. So one day my 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:07.399