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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. And now your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, heck

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Speaker 1: My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's we have got

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Speaker 1: Here from the SWBC studios as the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Is that the bull dance right there? Hump day? Oh

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Speaker 1: he was happy more Feeling the flow, Feeling the flow.

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Speaker 1: Heck Ma Harris and Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Yeoman's with you, Chris Beam is in the back and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: we have plenty of news to get to. We've only

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Speaker 1: got forty five minutes of the show and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: need every single one of them to hit what happened

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Speaker 1: last night and the reaction or counter reaction to what

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Speaker 1: happened as the Dallas Cowboys release Jalen Smith linebacker, Pro bowler,

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Speaker 1: either fan favorite or fan not so favorite, depending on

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Speaker 1: who you talk to. I mean it goes both ways.

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Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith no longer a Dallas Cowboy. Rob Phillips, how

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Speaker 1: did this thing go down? I actually thought this was

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Speaker 1: going to happen in the offseason. I thought we'd be

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Speaker 1: having this conversation in like I don't March February, March.

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Speaker 1: I think this decision was complex, just like his time here.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at his entire career here and

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Speaker 1: you can't lose side of what a great comeback story

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Speaker 1: it was for him in twenty sixteen. I know he

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Speaker 1: has his detractors, lots of them from the fan base

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Speaker 1: and the media as well, but you can't lose sight

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Speaker 1: of that. It's a complex story, the way he emerged

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Speaker 1: as a starter and then by the end of it

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Speaker 1: was only playing about half the snaps. The reason why

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Speaker 1: they cut him, decided to release him, is partly about performance,

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Speaker 1: and it's partly about money. You know, he was playing

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Speaker 1: fifty six percent of the snaps the first four games

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Speaker 1: of the season, and on top of that, they're willing

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Speaker 1: to eat what seven million whatever it is for the

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Speaker 1: rest of this season because you know, partly because there's

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Speaker 1: that injury guarantee, and you remember he had, I think,

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Speaker 1: risk surgery in the offseason if he were to have

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Speaker 1: a major injury. He camp as physical next year. That's

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Speaker 1: like nine million guaranteed next year. So his agent's amazing.

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Speaker 1: They had a decision to weigh when you're playing, you know,

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Speaker 1: the player that's playing that little snaps. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was it's a complex decision, and I really thought I

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Speaker 1: didn't think he'd back next year, but I thought he'd

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Speaker 1: play out this season. Didn't happen four games in, No,

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Speaker 1: it did not. Jalen Smith had five years fifty point

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Speaker 1: one million, or excuse me, fifty point seven million dollars

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Speaker 1: left on his contract. His relief leaves behind sixteen point

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Speaker 1: six million dollars of dead cap to the Cowboys. Nine

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Speaker 1: point eight of that is going in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and that's also seven point two million dollars cash, and

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Speaker 1: then twenty twenty two six point eight million dollars. So

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Speaker 1: not only is it close to ten mill this year,

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Speaker 1: it's close to seven mill next year of dead cap. Jesus,

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Jalen Smith has coming his direction,

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Speaker 1: which makes it, at least from an outsiders standpoint, look

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Speaker 1: like something led to this decision. I mean the complex

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Speaker 1: nature of it means that nothing is straightforward, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think overriding, it's it's the last you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a drop in performance if from his twenty nineteen Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: If there wasn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons might not be here and I don't Neil

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Speaker 1: and you know, they decide. I guess they felt comfortable

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, Kyle, a lot of salary here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think it? No, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: wanting to hear from from Isaiah and missus stand back

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Speaker 1: that call from Seattle from your mama telling you to hey,

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Speaker 1: watch yourself, it's happen so well, Mama standing back already, Daddy, Well, um,

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Speaker 1: so a lot to talk about you guys. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking giants today. We're not talking a lot to

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Speaker 1: He busted his about to get back. The organization obviously

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Speaker 1: And he found himself in a situation like Robie just said,

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Speaker 1: had to make alterations. The team brought in a new

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, team brought in some more depth, They brought

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Speaker 1: in some veterans, they brought in some young guys, and

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Speaker 1: they wanted to create this culture of competition, which we

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Speaker 1: what I and I mentioned this as soon as Queen

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Speaker 1: he doesn't give a dog on how much money you make.

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Speaker 1: He don't care. You don't, You don't. There's no pecking

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Speaker 1: order simply because of what your salary says that you make.

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Speaker 1: You don't just you don't receive things simply because at

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Speaker 1: playing time you have to earn it. And I think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys were still committed to him even up until

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what the date was up until contract

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Speaker 1: was guaranteed. There was March twenty first, Right March twenty first,

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Speaker 1: they had a decision to make do we keep him

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Speaker 1: him whatever without any consequences. Well, they still at that

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Speaker 1: March twenty first, obviously they felt good about him. And

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Speaker 1: that's why it's surprising, you know, even even with the

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Speaker 1: at that date they obviously felt like he can make

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Speaker 1: a contribution to this team, right enough. Seven however much

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Speaker 1: money he was going to make this year right now

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Speaker 1: at this point at seven point two, right but whatever

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Speaker 1: it was for the for those four games including that,

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Speaker 1: and then something happened. Something happened. New guys showed up. Right,

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Speaker 1: new decordinator who makes decisions shows up and said. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he was like, that's not he's not a good fit

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Speaker 1: earn their spot. I don't know. Maybe he said that

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Speaker 1: I really don't know, right, but something happened, something, something happened. Heck,

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Speaker 1: what you just saying? What did you just say to

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Speaker 1: that point to give somebody seven point two million dollars

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Speaker 1: to go home, take your ball and go home, et

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Speaker 1: phone home seven How often have you seen that? You

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Speaker 1: don't see it a lot? Two million dollars I can

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Speaker 1: eat that. Ye two point five three's a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: all right, But we can eat that if it's not going,

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Speaker 1: if he's not a good fit for this team, and

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Speaker 1: he's not you know, you know, conducive to our environment.

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Speaker 1: Seven million dollars we could have got two kJ rights

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Speaker 1: for that m. That's a lot of money. And even

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Speaker 1: with a surprise mid season release, it doesn't always happen

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Speaker 1: which yes, we will talk about later. The Patriots released

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Speaker 1: guess I should say so. But there's no money guaranteed

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Speaker 1: it could be more money. Let's try and nip this

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Speaker 1: something that's going to take care of itself. The numbers,

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Speaker 1: the appreciation from the fans and what he'd done, and

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Speaker 1: the negative stuff is going to be there as well.

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Speaker 1: But you know, when you talk about the March deadline,

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Speaker 1: I think at that point the Cowboys didn't know they

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Speaker 1: least to have the depth of what they had. Now

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Speaker 1: And for dan Quinn that wasn't gonna work. You saw

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Speaker 1: because of his figures, physical limitations. I've never seen a

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Speaker 1: seven point two and on top of all of that,

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Speaker 1: But this guy has literally tried many times in his

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Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is, you have guys

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Speaker 1: it's an excuse to keep them on the bench. You

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Speaker 1: gotta find out what Jabril Cox has because he's showing

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Speaker 1: you something in practice, So you gotta the guy has

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Speaker 1: those things, I think dan Quinn and I have to,

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Speaker 1: you know, applaud him for making that decision because he

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Speaker 1: did what was best for the team and the youth

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Speaker 1: new guys. You know, you just gotta applaud the organization

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Speaker 1: for doing him. It's the timing that's the weird part.

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Speaker 1: But I completely agree with you all the way through. Again,

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Speaker 1: he's playing, and there is that you know the reports,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're accurate. There is that injury guarantee

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Speaker 1: That's a financial risk that they had to look at.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, there's been no indication it was

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Speaker 1: last year. He played ninety eight percent of the defensive snaps,

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Speaker 1: You know, So you can't continue to have credibility if

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, right, So that they put themselves in a

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Speaker 1: bravo to his agent, dog On, I've never seen. I talked.

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Speaker 1: a guarantee, right, isn't he got a roster bonus? Pretty much?

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Speaker 1: for a salary of that amount? Right? And then if

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Speaker 1: my nine next year, my nine millions guaranteed. Bam, kudos signed.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who's a free agent signed that dude because he

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Speaker 1: took care of Jalen. Well, you know, look, man, some

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Speaker 1: and so why would we keep that? And that's still

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Speaker 1: So I mean, they're gonna pay for this move, but

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, presented by Tostitos the Great heck Ma Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Stanback, Rob Phillips. I'm Kyle Yeoman's let's hit the

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Speaker 1: phone lines. We are reacting to Jalen Smith news released

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Speaker 1: by the Dallas Cowboys here this week prior to the

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Speaker 1: game and the matchup with the New York Giants this Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We've got Chris in Indie on the line. What up, Chris?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? Love the show? Hey, I think you

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Speaker 1: guys are missing something. Now last year, this last offseason,

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Speaker 1: Jalen's contract was guaranteed for injury. He had risk surgery,

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Speaker 1: so technically he couldn't pass his physical So the seven

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Speaker 1: point two million was already guaranteed for the year, Isn't

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Speaker 1: that correct? I can't remember if that's I thought it

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Speaker 1: was because they just picked up the option. Right. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: the contract was guaranteed for injury only, you know, if

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Speaker 1: they didn't pick it up. But since he had risk

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Speaker 1: surgery after the season, he couldn't pass the physicals, so

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Speaker 1: the money was guaranteed. Regardless whether he got waived or not,

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Speaker 1: the money was guaranteed. Okay, you might be right about that.

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Speaker 1: He might be right about that. He is, Yeah, Chris

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Speaker 1: Beam coming in hot saying yeah he is. Yeah, he's right,

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Speaker 1: Chris and Chris Yeah, that's a good point. Then, I

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Speaker 1: mean that kind of changes your thought process with this

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Speaker 1: whole deal, right, because it was already guaranteed going into

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Speaker 1: that decision making process, right Yeah. And that's why I

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Speaker 1: mean I said what I was saying about offseason. I

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Speaker 1: thought next year, they would do this in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: because then you're you're not you don't have to do

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Speaker 1: that guarantee. It's kind of barring injury if you want

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Speaker 1: to take the risk. And he's not playing as many

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Speaker 1: snaps this year, so there's not there's probably less risk

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Speaker 1: of getting hurt. But yeah, that's I mean, if they're

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Speaker 1: not putting that, if they put in a situation where

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Speaker 1: they had to do it, then yeah, kudos to them

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Speaker 1: for going ahead and saying, look though, we still got

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Speaker 1: to potentially upgrade the spot, and that's what they did,

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Speaker 1: you know, drafting Parsons, adding guys, So they weren't happy

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Speaker 1: with the death. Yeah, that brings up a whole nother

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Speaker 1: wrinkle to it, because if he if that was already

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Speaker 1: in you talk about how great as agent is, if

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Speaker 1: he already had the risk surgery and it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be guaranteed anyway, wasn't so much of a pickle as

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Speaker 1: we think it is. But still, you know something about

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Speaker 1: that March deadline, they still have to pick up his

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Speaker 1: option from there, and so looks that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: Chris appreciate that. Yeah, I'm glad glad he brought that up.

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Speaker 1: But I think it does go back to kind of

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Speaker 1: what Rob was just saying of even if that money

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Speaker 1: is guaranteed from an earlier date that we didn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: think about, it's still surprising that they do it. Week

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Speaker 1: four of the NFL season week five of the NFL season,

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Speaker 1: rather than waiting and just letting it ride out a

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Speaker 1: little more. How does that change the chemistry of your

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Speaker 1: team when a guy like that, when a guy like that,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a staple in your in your locker room,

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Speaker 1: is cut after four games. Well, let me just let

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Speaker 1: me start by saying this. We don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the locker room, right, so there might be

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Speaker 1: other layers to this that we don't that we're unaware of.

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Speaker 1: So let me let me preface it with that. But

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Speaker 1: to your point, it puts everybody on notice. You already

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Speaker 1: said that everybody's unnotice and that's something that we've talked

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Speaker 1: about in here. It's Quinn. It's a quinteffect. It's a

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Speaker 1: Quint effect, right, I think in past, in the past,

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Speaker 1: if you're a cowboy or anybody else, no matter where

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Speaker 1: you're at, if you're getting paid a certain amount, you're

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Speaker 1: on a team, especially if your contracts guarantee, Yeah, what's

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Speaker 1: the what's the benefit? What's the benefit of me letting

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Speaker 1: you go? Even if even if you were reverted all

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Speaker 1: the way back to just a specialist. For me, I'm

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Speaker 1: already I gotta pay you anyway, So you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: something to contribute to this team. Even if I don't

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Speaker 1: have you on the field, I'm paying you seven millie

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Speaker 1: or plus whatever he's already made, right, So to let

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Speaker 1: him go, it lets everybody else know that you were

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Speaker 1: not exempt, that you were not exempt. You understand that

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Speaker 1: the owner of this organization has said that he is

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Speaker 1: a cornerstone player for us. If we're willing to let

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Speaker 1: go of our cornerstone player and he's already do the

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Speaker 1: money and we're just gifting him money to go home,

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Speaker 1: everybody can get it, but can man, everybody can get

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Speaker 1: it well, even with the cornerstone talk. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was just Yea, it would talk,

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Speaker 1: you know at the time, but you know the way

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Speaker 1: that they responded. We're gonna give Quinn a lot of

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Speaker 1: the credit for the competition part, but we have to

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Speaker 1: give the front office credit for making the tough decisions.

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Speaker 1: And if they're willing to make those tough decisions and say, look,

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Speaker 1: we don't care about all of these other things, it

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Speaker 1: has to show up production wise on the and if

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Speaker 1: that wands, then we need to go in a different direction.

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Speaker 1: We talk about the depth that we didn't have last

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Speaker 1: year in conjunction with what we have right now. And

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Speaker 1: it's a nighting day situation. And I think you can't

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Speaker 1: make those situations. You can't make those decisions last year

529
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Speaker 1: because your hands were tied behind your back. You had nothing.

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Speaker 1: Who was behind him, Louke Gifford or someone like that.

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Speaker 1: So Joe Thomas who's now on the Texans, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was about it. This is what happens too when you

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Speaker 1: bring in a defensive coordinator. I'm not saying this is

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Speaker 1: all dan Quinn, but he comes in and he's got

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Speaker 1: a fresh set of eyes and what he wants. And

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Speaker 1: you know, he brought into a safety and a safety

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Speaker 1: turn linebacker that he thought I played with them or

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Speaker 1: I coached them. They're gonna help transform this defense that

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Speaker 1: is that carries a lot of weight, you know, And

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Speaker 1: that's that's a big reason why you're looking at the

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Speaker 1: snap disparity from from from last year. And it's also

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons a guy you just can't take off the field,

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Speaker 1: you know. Now, I'm curious now with this decision, does

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Speaker 1: that change his role at all going forward? Or you

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Speaker 1: still just look at it like, you know, based on

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Speaker 1: matchups wherever Mica needs to play, will play him there,

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Speaker 1: and for whatever's best for that particular week. I would

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Speaker 1: agree with just that. You know, you stay with Mica

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Speaker 1: in his role of he does everything all right. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's a sinner, he's a corner, he's the safety, he's

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Speaker 1: all of those things. But it just shows the talent.

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Speaker 1: I just believe that backside of the backfield tight ends.

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Speaker 1: And you look at our matchups going forward. I just

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Speaker 1: look at what we're doing this Sunday versus the Giants. Man,

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Speaker 1: they have a back that's going to be out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield. And I don't think that we wanted to

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Speaker 1: see Jayles Smith in open air with him and y'all laugh,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Let's go to Sam in Atlanta. Sam,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? You're on talking Cowboys? Hey, what's going on? Man? Hey?

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Speaker 1: What I'm say? Yeah? Yeah, I UM. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to time in a little bit. I know there's not

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Speaker 1: a whole lot I can say to Heaven and said,

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Speaker 1: but I was a little shock. I wasn't surprised at

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Speaker 1: the mood because everybody's been talking about, you know, Jaylen

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Speaker 1: and his speed and I was one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: fans of his, you know, because of the injury and everything.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to just touch a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: and then I get off. You were talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: how it puts everybody on notice, and two names in

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Speaker 1: particular that came up to my mind when you said that,

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Speaker 1: And I want y'all to just kind of dive into

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Speaker 1: First of all, Lyell Collins. I don't know what his

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Speaker 1: contract situation is, but you know the fact that still

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Speaker 1: has come on so much, and Lyle did such a

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Speaker 1: you know, a stupid thing and what he did, and

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Speaker 1: the other ones being um Tank Lawn. I mean, everybody's

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Speaker 1: talking about, yeah, thank great, you know, and run and

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Speaker 1: all of this and that. But now we see that

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Speaker 1: we played better without both of those guys. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna hang up, but I would y'all just talk about

581
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Speaker 1: that a little bit. So two people are even more

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Speaker 1: people that may be on notice, appreciate the call. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much, Sam, Sam might be the bravest man in

584
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Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation. Sam and the old statement. But I mean

585
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Speaker 1: it's a question that needs to be asked, right, are

586
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Speaker 1: they playing better? Are they they're finding ways to get by?

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Speaker 1: I think, are they're going to be even better when

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Speaker 1: both guys get back. Yeah, you can talk, or you

589
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: can factor in their salary and do a both way.

590
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: You can say it's both ways. We don't know what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen when they come back, but you're right at

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Speaker 1: the moment, that's what it looks like. Are they better

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Speaker 1: when they both guys get back? I think so? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean everybody should think so, right. No, I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: Terry Steele has done a hell of a job, but

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Speaker 1: I do not now he's not lyo Colin. We come

597
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Speaker 1: a long way with Taryn Steele in the last three weeks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, what were we suppose everybody's saying dialogue, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get rid of him, you know, Like I just feel

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Speaker 1: as though, you know, Terrence Steele has done a great job,

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Speaker 1: but when lall comes off of that suspension, he going

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Speaker 1: right back over there to the right side and do

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Speaker 1: his job. You know. But the other thing about Tank

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is I think it's so easy to look at

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Speaker 1: this organization and say, look at the production of guys

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Speaker 1: once they get paid, and starting from the Cowboys, I

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00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: look everywhere, but here specifically, guys get paid and production

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00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: goes down and putting guys on notice is one thing,

609
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Speaker 1: but asking guys to look, man, this is what you have,

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Speaker 1: be who you are. But if you don't have the

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Speaker 1: guys next to you to help you, and you're getting

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00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: double and triple teamed every time because you're the only

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Speaker 1: thing that they have to look at, then that changes. Tank.

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Speaker 1: Tank can't be tanked when he's taking on a triple team. Well, now,

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Speaker 1: when you line up, when you're line up Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 1: Chauncey Golston and Tank Lawrence on the same side of

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Speaker 1: the ball, who the hell are you gonna throw team?

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Speaker 1: Who are you going to double team? That is a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: And especially when you have hunters up front and not

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are pretending to be hunters. Also,

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Speaker 1: not to mention Osa Odigi Zooa on the other side

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Speaker 1: with Randy Gregory, maybe Neville Gallimore when he comes back.

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Speaker 1: I agree, there's gonna be a lot of single team

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Speaker 1: schemes go or a single person schemes going up against

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Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence. That was just and I point that

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Speaker 1: out because that was one of the blitzes that Dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn bought from the right side last week versus the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: and you could tell if the Panthers were like, oh

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Speaker 1: s shakerbobs, who are we? Who are we going to stop?

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Speaker 1: Because Michael Parsons was lined up over the guard. He's

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Speaker 1: lined up standing up over the guard, Chauncey's over the tackle,

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Speaker 1: and then you have Randy Gregory on the outside. I

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Speaker 1: do that's a night man. He's mugging the a gap.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. Micah, Yeah, no doubt. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to that's my favorite football termugging the gap. Man.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate Sam and Atlanta for the call. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Fred in DC. What up? Fred? You're on talking Cowboys?

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Speaker 1: What's up, gentleman? Um? So we were talking about the

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Speaker 1: Jayalen stuff. I was thinking back in March and you

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Speaker 1: and you kind of made this point as I've been

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Speaker 1: on hold, is that you didn't have Kano, you didn't

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Speaker 1: have Micah, you didn't have Debrille. All you had was

643
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Speaker 1: Jalen and Lde and injured Gifford and Joe Thomas maybe,

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Speaker 1: but then he left, so you really had nothing and

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Speaker 1: you had to start. But then other guy mentioned the

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Speaker 1: injury settlement, which I didn't realize was the case. But

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Speaker 1: you know, with all these things, I don't think there

648
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Speaker 1: was actually a choice about having Jailed on the team.

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Speaker 1: But I was actually proud that once they realized that

650
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Speaker 1: there was no more utility or advantage to having him

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Speaker 1: on the team to let him go. And so that's

652
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Speaker 1: that to me, that signifies the shift of mindset that

653
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Speaker 1: we've been waiting on for so long, like this would

654
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Speaker 1: never happened in Jason, and I'm just happy that somebody,

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Speaker 1: you know, that people in the room or finally helping

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Speaker 1: make the decisions as opposed to just you know, being

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Speaker 1: put or whatever. So that was on the point I

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Speaker 1: wanted to debate. I appreciate it. That's a great point

659
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Speaker 1: because they hadn't drafted two linebackers yet. And that's why

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Speaker 1: previous caller I got a double check that because I

661
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Speaker 1: that at that point that's a good thought. It's like,

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Speaker 1: from a death perspective, let's just go ahead and keep

663
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Speaker 1: him on the roster for twenty twenty one. Yes, it's guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was what the physical being

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Speaker 1: able to pass situation was by late March. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure because Zeke was the same thing Zeke was healthy,

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Speaker 1: but it was like, if he's on the roster and

668
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Speaker 1: March whatever, his salaries fully guaranteed it was the same thing.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure where Jalen was exactly with his

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Speaker 1: injury at that point. We'll see either way, they protected

671
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Speaker 1: themselves depth wise at the time. Yeah, and they didn't

672
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Speaker 1: have that that mindset of going into the draft saying

673
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Speaker 1: we heard, yeah, we're gonna draft two linebackers. We're gonna

674
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Speaker 1: draft Michael Parsons first and then have jbial Cox slide

675
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Speaker 1: to us the way that he was able to. So yeah,

676
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I was mentioning earlier is if

677
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Speaker 1: you had made this move in March, do you go

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Speaker 1: into the draft with the mindset of, oh, Michael Parsons

679
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Speaker 1: is our guy, then do you trade or do you

680
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Speaker 1: draft him right at ten and not risk going down

681
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Speaker 1: to twelve? Or do you not draft Chauncey Golston because

682
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Speaker 1: I was the pick you got for the Eagles from

683
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Speaker 1: moving from ten to twelve. So there's a couple domino

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Speaker 1: effect things that could have happened, but I think overall,

685
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys did what they needed to to protect their

686
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Speaker 1: depth at that level. One last caller here and then

687
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Speaker 1: we'll take our second break. Josh from Maryland. You're on

688
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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys. Hey, what's alright? Alright, long time. It's the

689
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Speaker 1: first time called appreciate question. Um yeah, I think that

690
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Speaker 1: that's another nine. Put too much on a fine light

691
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Speaker 1: little Jameson because he was real fine for the whole season.

692
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: That sounded funny here one time Sunday. So we oh,

693
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Speaker 1: I think we lost Josh. Say what you just said again? Okay,

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Speaker 1: can hear me? Filo? Sorry, I'm on the back room.

695
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Speaker 1: You're good, okay. Yeah, So I was saying that number nine.

696
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Speaker 1: I think that put another spotlight on him and he

697
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Speaker 1: didn't mean because, um, he stopped doing the swike this year,

698
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Speaker 1: and in this Chast game he made one tackle and

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Speaker 1: that one tackle he made he brought that swipe back out.

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Speaker 1: But I've seen some reports saying that he might a

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Speaker 1: guy who cut about two weeks ago. Um, but he

702
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Speaker 1: on Neil had the COVID situation because he really was

703
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Speaker 1: to get too many half percentages snacks. It only bumped

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Speaker 1: up to fifty because ke On nil then out. So

705
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Speaker 1: appreciate you filers taking call. Hope to get to you

706
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Speaker 1: next time. Oh good, Josh Man, give me a craft

707
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Speaker 1: cake please in Maryland. Yeah, the old game, you hear me? Yea.

708
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Speaker 1: They don't know about that obe all that stuff. So

709
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Speaker 1: to that horrible state and we got I appreciate it, Josh.

710
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: He brings up a point that a lot of Cowboys

711
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Speaker 1: fans would like to mention. Then the swipe one last time.

712
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Speaker 1: I don't think this cut had anything to do with

713
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Speaker 1: the swipe. Get that out of the way. But hey,

714
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Speaker 1: let me ask somebody if you do something, if you

715
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Speaker 1: do something and you say, baby, are you're okay and

716
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Speaker 1: your wife go okay, I'm okay, what does that mean?

717
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Speaker 1: Not okay? Okay? So I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed,

718
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Speaker 1: you know right, somebody wasn't say it about that swipe. Okay,

719
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Speaker 1: he got his last okay. Jerry was in was up

720
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: there in his suite and he already said he said, now, Chili,

721
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: here we go. If you swipe one more goddamn time,

722
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Speaker 1: oh you're out of here. And that was it. He

723
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Speaker 1: saw tech all crap, here you go. He brought that

724
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725
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Speaker 1: one more Aaron, that is not a cowbit. Yes, he's

726
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Speaker 1: not a cowbit. Did he just wipe Stephen? Did he

727
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: just swipe it clean? Michael, Rob, You and I are

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing the show tomorrow just by ourselves. I

729
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Speaker 1: don't know if any of us are. Chris Aaron's Hey

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Speaker 1: do it again? All right, let's take our second break

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Speaker 1: you can make it work, right, Isaac, We created cap room. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you guys remember a while back there structure how much?

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Speaker 1: How much room do we have? Is about ten? Oh?

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Speaker 1: They created a dozen million? Yeah, we got we have enough.

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Speaker 1: We haven't He was due I think five eight if

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Speaker 1: I remember correctly this year, I think it was like seven,

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Speaker 1: like seven, and then I think his pro rad of

799
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Speaker 1: salary for the year would be something like nine to

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Speaker 1: ten million. Okay, well, either way, we have enough, right, okay, um,

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Speaker 1: would you basically do let's let's play let's play a

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Speaker 1: game of what if? Okay, let's play it. What if

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Speaker 1: we had an opportunity with the season that we're having

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Speaker 1: with the cornerback play, that we're having, the secondary, the

805
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Speaker 1: whole defense, right, but we have a guy with Trayvon

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Speaker 1: Diggs that that that my guy Hick him absolutely lest

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Speaker 1: we all love. And he's playing really well ball, really

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Speaker 1: really good ball. Um playing the best cornerback ball in

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Speaker 1: the league right now. And imagine, just imagine he's a

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Speaker 1: back pocket. Okay, imagine if we had an opportunity to

817
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Speaker 1: add that to what we have going on right now.

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Speaker 1: Who not only is a proven leader, he's also a

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Speaker 1: needs to ball out one year to go out and

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Speaker 1: get the big boy contract that he wants. Oh and

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Speaker 1: by the way, Dallas happens to be the biggest market,

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Speaker 1: the largest marketed team in the world. A lot of

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Speaker 1: opportunity there, a lot of opportunity there. I would say,

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Speaker 1: why not. Jerry has alluded to him running out it

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Speaker 1: kind of his time is kind of going right, kind

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Speaker 1: that thing. He know, we know, we all know that's

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Speaker 1: When he feels as if he's that close, this close,

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Speaker 1: a solid roster, we're playing well. Why would you not

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Speaker 1: add another chess piece that would even more make you

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Speaker 1: no question marks on offense, you had no you had

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Speaker 1: not secure that secure it were? It doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: because we saw in Week one you did a good

846
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: job against one, but there's another dude on the other

847
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: side named Antonio Brown that kicked our butt right every

848
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: team that we face going into the playoffs and all

849
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: that jazz down the road, We're going to need some

850
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: other guys other than just Diggs, and if you have

851
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to secure him secure the back. That's my opinion.

852
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: I love what you just said, and I think Stephan

853
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: Gilmore and Jalen ramsay you're absolutely correct. Those are guys

854
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: that you have to mention in the same breath when

855
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: you talk about shutdown corners. When I look at our team,

856
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: I see Dan Quinn as the man that maybe did

857
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: what Mike McCarthy did in his year off in changing

858
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: everything that he did. Dan Quinn was a cover three

859
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. That's what I'm gonna play because I don't

860
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: believe that your guys can beat the guys that I have.

861
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: He's changed that, he's changing his coverages up all the time,

862
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: going zone, going man, all of those things. Stephan Gilmore

863
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: to me, is a nomad corner. He's like, we're turning

864
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: Trayvon Digs into it. He'm traveling with the main guy.

865
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: What system? You know. I think he could play in

866
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: any every system because of Belichick, right, but I think

867
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: thirty one at the age of thirty one right now,

868
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: with the injury history, that he's the injury that he's

869
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: coming off of which is a quad. We don't know

870
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: when he would be back. And obviously, whenever he did

871
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to come back off of our healthy

872
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: then obviously you could use that. But look at what

873
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: you have right now, and I think that if you

874
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: look at the health and where this team is, we

875
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: could use Stephan Gilmore, a guy of his caliber, but

876
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: I think the money and his age isn't right to

877
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: fit what we have right now. One year and look

878
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 1: even for one year, if we went down that road,

879
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't be sitting over. I'd

880
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, let's get let's get it on. But

881
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: I think, from from an internal standpoint, there are other

882
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: things that we could do to make this team better.

883
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: And I'm saying from AD tackle, we no and I'm

884
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: saying the depth we have at d tackle, We've had

885
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: guys that are coming back that we hope are going

886
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: to be healthy. But again that's the great unknown in

887
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: a lot of areas. Again, Stephan Gilmore is one of

888
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: the players that I love in this league because he's

889
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: a straight up certified dog. There's no question you don't

890
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: need to co sign that. All I'm saying is for

891
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: where he is right now in his career and what

892
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: we have we need it. Yeah, no, and that that

893
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: those are all great points. I mean Gilmore still banged up,

894
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean he's on pup for a reason,

895
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: he's physically unable to perform. But he does bring in

896
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: that resume that could take Trey von Dix to the

897
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: next level. But do you really want that messing up

898
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: a group because right now your defense has a bit

899
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: of a group. Jerry was asked about, you know, would

900
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: you have been in on another veteran cornerback who signed

901
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay and he talked about progress stopping. So

902
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean every case is different, and

903
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: I get again this is not official, but the NFL

904
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: media is saying this is going to happen. Officially, New

905
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: England's gonna do this. I think thirty one team's antennas

906
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: are up because of the quality of player, and is

907
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Money's the reason why he's not

908
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: going to be there anymore. He wants more money. He

909
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: wasn't willing to restructure his contracts. So, like you said,

910
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: like what does he want to do? Does he want

911
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: to take a kind of bet on myself deal to

912
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: come back healthy, very serious injury. I mean it's a

913
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: quad deal and he's out at least through week six,

914
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: I guess. So there's that, and then there's gonna be

915
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: a lot of teams interested in So I mean it's

916
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: there's there's money and injuries or the fact that's your

917
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: Tampa on the phone right now. Oh, everybody's everybody, everybody

918
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: is one of them. How many cornerbacks do you get

919
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: to put your hands on that are of his calibernut?

920
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's hardly, ever, hardly ever. Again, he knows

921
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: that he needs a prove it year. Nobody's gonna give him.

922
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: He knows he can't get the contract that he wants

923
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: right now coming off of an injury unless he proves

924
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: it first correct. He doesn't want to prove it with

925
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: a team that's crap. He wants to prove of what

926
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: a team that's doing well and he wasn't doing in

927
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: a highly touted market, highly exposed market, Dallas Cowboys, the

928
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: greatest market there is in football right Dallas Cowboy is

929
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: a very competitive team right now, probably the most energy

930
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: on defense right now, playing well for a great defensive coordinator.

931
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: Another great corner. I don't have to come in and

932
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: be that guy because there's another guy that's already balling out,

933
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: So I don't. All the spotlight won't be on me, right,

934
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: so he can come into a good situation. We know

935
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: he's a team player because he's coming from freaking Belichick.

936
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: He knows how to play all dusiness. He can travel

937
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: if we need him to. If Diggs goes down, guess what,

938
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: we still have a number one. There's too many positives.

939
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: We have the money, we create a cap space. You're

940
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: in a position. If I'm Jerry Jones, secure the freaking bag.

941
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: Secure the bag. You have the best training staff in

942
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: the NFL. Do your homework, do whatever you gotta do.

943
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: Check him out, doctor Cooper, all of them cats. Check

944
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: him out, get him in the building. He's a team player,

945
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: he's a leader. He's the one of the best cornerbacks,

946
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: one of the best two cornerbacks in the league when healthy.

947
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: That's we can say that about anybody, right Why not? No,

948
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: I ain't he can mentor Trademond Diggs right now is

949
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: the veteran at the corner position. Yeah, come on now, Yeah,

950
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: but you know again, we signed up for this youth movement,

951
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: and here we are. And I also and I also

952
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: feel I agree with you with that. I mean, what

953
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: do you have to lose nothing? You got a Super

954
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Bowl to win, So make that move. Now you strike

955
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: when the iron's hot. That is the m of the league.

956
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: And you talk about and I can see this clearly. Yeah,

957
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: he was a traveling corner in New England. That don't

958
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: mean he has to do it when he's here, right,

959
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do it when he's here. And

960
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: we see that the other weaknesses and teams are gonna

961
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: just completely stop throwing to Trayvons guy, They're just gonna stop,

962
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: and they're gonna try and start exposing the other side. Well,

963
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: I think right now, Anthony Brown and the guy that

964
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about, it's not even the one A, one

965
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: B situation. So I mean, everybody's shaking the head. I mean,

966
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: if you just imagine this, imagine this right, because we're

967
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna face this right. Kansas City's coming up

968
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: on the docket. Down the road. Okay, some weeks down

969
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: the road. You come up, you're at Patrick Mahomes, you

970
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: come up to the line of scrimmage, you look at

971
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,959
Speaker 1: one side, you're like Digs. You On the other side,

972
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: you see Gilmore, you're look in the middle, you see

973
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons and you got d law in Gregory. Well

974
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: what is going on? Yeah? What is going on right now?

975
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: Coming hey and and Diggs and get more. Don't I

976
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: don't care who comes over here. Come on, come on,

977
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: come come on, I don't care. I don't have the

978
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: w I don't have to worry about who's going to

979
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: what's side? We got you? No. I love that, I

980
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: really do. I love that. But you know, man, it's

981
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: it's not as three o'clock hits. I'm like, what you want?

982
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: I got a million more than what you want right now.

983
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: I want to get him do it? Yea yeah. But

984
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: that's the thing, though, is it's never that straight never

985
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: that straightforward. I agree completely with everybody's thought process here,

986
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a complex deal, just how we

987
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: saw from the other side. Finally, don't stop it. That's

988
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: a lot, bigger, a lot things just empty the wall.

989
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: You got it? What are you saving it for? Yeah?

990
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh goodness, I mean in the market deal too. I

991
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: mean you you mentioned it with you wants to go

992
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: to a bigger market. That's why you went to New

993
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: England from Buffalo. And I would imagine at his age,

994
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he's won Super Bowls. He's just trying

995
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: to play for a super This is a group of

996
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys earn a group of teams that earned that category

997
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: after four games. But I will look again, though he's

998
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: been out since December. What did I say? Did you

999
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: hear that? Did you hear what he just said? Did

1000
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: I say it? What? Did I passed out for a sec?

1001
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: Said I actually say it? Did he black out? Did

1002
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: he say it? He said it? Well, that's it for

1003
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: us on talk. Oh no, we got in there. We'll

1004
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow, nine am Central Time for heck Ma Harrison,

1005
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Chris Beam in the backup,

1006
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman saying so long, thanks for joining us. This

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