1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mik 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing to give you are week one 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: of training camp takeaways and observations. Yes, good week of practice, 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: solid week of training camp practice. But the biggest headline, 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: unfortunately out of Ravens training camp has been the absence 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson. He has practiced only for an hour 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: so far during training camp, full team training camp due 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: to illness. Got out there for a little bit of 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: time on Wednesday, then went in early and then was 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: not back on the field on Friday, still dealing with 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: that illness. So that has definitely been a bummer, yeah, 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: to say the least at the start of Ravens training camp. Yeah. 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: I mean, look, Lamar Jackson is the franchise player here. 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Everyone's excited to see him. He's the most important player. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: He's a quarterback, and so when he's not out there, 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: it's disappointing. 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not pressing the panic button. 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: It's one week of training camp and I think that, 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: you know, hopefully he gets back out there soon. You know, 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: in terms of when that exactly is going to be. 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: The Ravens John Harball talked on Friday. 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: Basically, you know. 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: He's getting tests and he's still you know, in constant 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: communication with the medical team here, but you know they 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: don't exactly know when he is going to be back 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: at practice. You know, it depends on when he's healthy, 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: when he feels good. You know, when he got out 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: there on Wednesday, it's like he gives it a go, 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: and you know, over the course of practice just didn't 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: feel right, didn't feel good, you know, so it's like, Okay, 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: that's that's let's come back in and I think that Yeah, 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: so obviously this team is built around him, and so 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not pushing the panic button on one 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: week of practice. You wish he was out there. Hopefully 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: he's back out there soon. But it does as we 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: have all these conversations about like who look good, and 37 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of hanging over everything to a 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: certain extent when you're when you're talking about what stood 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: out from the first week you camp. 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Right, and Todd monk And has said he's done some 41 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: of the classroom stuff. He's been in the classroom and 42 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: that's an important part of training camp as well, not 43 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: just the on field of course, you want the on 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: field stuff to practice, the classroom stuff, right, Yeah, I 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: don't I don't think that ultimately we're going to look back, 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: you know in whatever week twelve, yeah and say, oh, man, gosh, 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: that week that Lamar Jackson, that first week of training camp, 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Like this offense would have been leaps in year, right 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: if Lamar had been out there. But like, also, you know, 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: if this lingers in and he's he's you know, he 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: misses a second week of practice, you know, you're like, man, 52 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: the chief schemes. Luckily, the training camp's long. It's like 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: really long, right, you know this year, and like it's 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: started early for the Ravens, so like you still have 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: a while before the Chiefs come to town. I mean 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: we're not even in August. 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, well for the Ravens, it's it's six weeks until 58 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: the Ravens play the Chiefs. So like, if he gets 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: back out there, you know, over the course of the 60 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: next couple of days and he's off and running and 61 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: he feels good and no one's gonna be talking about 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: him missing the practices at the beginning. 63 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Of right, Like, at what point does it become concerning 64 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: is the question mark? You know, where you start to 65 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: be like man, like, all right, this is a problem, 66 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: Like we're not there yet. I don't know what that 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: point is, and I doubt that we're going to get 68 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: this to that point because this is an illness. Yeah, 69 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, but at some point it does. 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna choose to just look at it just to 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: be the look at through the prism of optimism and say, 72 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: we're not going to get to that point. We're not 73 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: going to be asking the question really like have we 74 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: reached that point? We're not even going to get there. 75 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: So that's the way that I am I'm going to 76 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: view it. 77 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that he got on the field 78 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: at all on Wednesday is obviously a positive indication. Yeah, right, 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: he's trending in the right direction. Yeah, I think, well, now, no, 80 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: we didn't practice today, so which way are you trending? 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: But like that was a good indication that he's not 82 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: that far off. 83 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we practiced again a little bit on Wednesday, 84 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: player off day on Thursday, did not practice on Friday. 85 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: Team practices again on Saturday, have an off day on Sunday, 86 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: and then you know, and then they're back at it. 87 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: So you know, that's kind of where things stand with Lamar. 88 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: I do think that, like as I said, it does 89 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: kind of hangover everything. But I also do think that, 90 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: you know, we were able to get a decent indication 91 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: on some themes over the course of this week, like 92 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: even without him on the field, and one of them 93 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: is whether it's Lamar Jackson on the field or not. 94 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: I think that this defense is looking really good, particularly 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: the secondary, and like it is hard to separate the two. 96 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: It's like, man, the secondary looks good. It's like, well's 97 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: starting quarterbacks not out there. But even if Lamar we're 98 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: out there, Like, the secondary has a ton of resources 99 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: devoted to it and it is living up to billing 100 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: early so far in training camp. 101 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think both that's that's a factor. 102 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: I think if Lamar were out there, the secondary probably 103 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't be looking as good. 104 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: That. 105 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: With that said, the secondary is really good. I think 106 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: it would still be looking very good. Yeah. Yeah, but 107 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend that it's not a factor 108 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: in this whole equation, right, But yeah, the secondary is 109 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: going to be ridiculous. I mean, I saw Warren Sharp's 110 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: rankings of NFL secondaries. He ha even sixth, The Browns 111 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: were first, else yeah, what what excuse me? Like when 112 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: you just look at the rosters. I pulled up the 113 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: Browns zep chart, I was like, what what am I 114 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: missing here? I mean, like the Ravens are just absolutely stacked. 115 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean you have Marlon Humphrey and Brandon Stevens. Marlon 116 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Humphrey looks awesome. You know, he looks awesome out here 117 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: in training camp. Yeah, he's back, he's healthy. He looks 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: like the Marlon Humphrey that was an all pro, a 119 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: multi time all Pro. Right, it looks really good out there. 120 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens looks like where he picked off. He picked 121 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: up right where he left off from last year when 122 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: he had a really strong season, if not better. Nate Wiggins, 123 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the first round pick, has been great. Arthur Marlett bawling 124 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: out getting has multiple in interceptions already in training camp, Jaylenen, 125 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Armor Davis. You go down, like the backups to the 126 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: backups are looking good, right, and then you look safety 127 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: Coylee Hamilton. Where's he on the top one hundred list. 128 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: He's like, not high enough, not high enough. He's like 129 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: he's forty three. 130 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: But I think you should when we're having the conversation 131 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: next year, I think yeah. 132 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even joking. I think you might be. 133 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: There's potential for him to be in that top ten 134 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: conversation that he's that good. 135 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: He's one of the best. He's a defensive Player of 136 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: the Year candidate. Yeah, yeah, so not high enough. I agree, 137 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams pick six got one this week and Needdie 138 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Jackson they just signed it. 139 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: And he's also had to pick six this week second 140 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: practice exactly. 141 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: So the secondary is loaded and I have a hard 142 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: time believing on paper at least, and I think once 143 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: the games start that there's going to be a better 144 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: secondary in the league. No, I agree with that. 145 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that you you you touched on this, 146 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: but I think that the Marlin Humphrey resurgence story is 147 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: one that you know, when the Ravens are playing some 148 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: of these primetime games late in the year and they're 149 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: doing the sit down interview and it's on you know, 150 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football, you're talking about this team, you can 151 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: just see that that segment as part of, you know, 152 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: the storyline for one of these national televised games. I've 153 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: Marlon Humphreys has been a bounce back story. He's dealt 154 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: with the injuries last year, and now he's been one 155 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: of the team leaders and one of the best defensive players, 156 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: one of the best corners in football. Like, I could 157 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: absolutely see that being, you know, one of the story 158 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: giyes and so like, the Ravens defense last year was 159 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: the best in football. I've said this before, but the 160 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 2: Ravens defense last year was one of the best in football, 161 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: and it really never had Marlin at full strength the 162 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: entire year. Now you have him early in training camp 163 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: looking like an all Pro caliber player. He's active, he's motivated. 164 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: I know you talked to him. I mean I think 165 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: that he probably shared with you for some of that motivation. 166 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote a lengthy story on him. Go check 167 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: that one out on the site end app And yeah, 168 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: I think he's definitely motivated. I mean, he's a guy 169 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: that I think has some regrets for the way that 170 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: last year played out, you know, I mean a just 171 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: like he just felt like for the first time in 172 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: his career that his body didn't respond the way he 173 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: thought it would, right like, and it just felt like 174 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: one of those reason where like when it rains at 175 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: poors kind of season, like every piece of news was 176 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: bad news. Regarding his injuries. You know, like he's like, eh, 177 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: my foot kind of hurts. I guess I'll go get MRA. 178 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean one of my I'll miss a couple of meetings, 179 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: No big deal. Then like doctor calls like, yeah, your 180 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: foot's kind your foot's jacked up, like you need surgery. 181 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: And he's like say what, and uh, you know, so 182 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: that sent him back and then he finally gets healthy 183 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: from that and he suffers the calf injury and then 184 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: the calf injuries like not getting better and it's just 185 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: the rehabs, you know, it's just not responding and rehab 186 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: and then he tried, you know, I mean, like for 187 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: a guy as competitive as Marlon Humphrey is, which I know, 188 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: like he's a big goofball and stuff on social media 189 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: and he's like his bad food takes or legendary among 190 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: Ravens fans, and like, you know, Marlon's a character, right, 191 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: He's like a funny dude and he likes to enjoy life, 192 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: but like he's a competitive guy, very competitive guy, and 193 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: he has like long been viewed inside this building is 194 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: like one of the more dedicate, hated like dudes about 195 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: his craft, like sits front row in all the meetings 196 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: like he is, he's locked in. When it's about his business, 197 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: he's about it. And and so like for him that 198 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: to miss a playoff game, an entire playoff game, the 199 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: Texans game was tough. And then he gets out there 200 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: and like tries to grit through it in the AFC 201 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: Championship game and kind of tells coaches like, I just 202 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: can't do it, Like I feel like this defense is 203 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: playing so well, I'm kind of a detriment to the team, 204 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm I'm just not able to give it 205 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: what this defense needs expects of me. And it's not 206 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: fair to me for me to go out there and 207 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: like do this, and I think, and he was also 208 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: thinking like all right, I'll get right for the super Bowl. Yeah, 209 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: and then he'll make it, you know. And it's just 210 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: like just tough or a guy like that. So definitely 211 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: he's a player that knows he can play goodball. It's 212 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: just about his body responding. And he looks really good 213 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: out there. 214 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: Well, what he lost ten pounds, so he trimmed up 215 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. He got he's getting his hands on 216 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: the football. A two interceptions in a practice on Wednesday, 217 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: and so he's I just think he's going to have 218 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: a resurgent season. And honestly, on the opposite side of him, 219 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: Brandon Stevens, like he's picked up right where he left off. 220 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: I thought Brandon Stevens in Friday's practice was excellent when 221 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: the pads came on, Like he's a guy that I 222 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: think we saw it over the course of last year. 223 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: He just started to play with more and more confidence, 224 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: the swagger and carried himself that way, and like that 225 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: was that was the case in Friday's practice. He came 226 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: through the hole one of blitz and and was kind 227 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: of celebrating a little bit, then broke up the pass 228 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: at one point to say Flowers and was celebrating on that. 229 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: Earlier in the week, he broke up a pass to 230 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: Mark Andrews. 231 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: And was that was like one on one jump ball 232 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: situation and broke that one. Yeah, Victor on that one. Yeah. 233 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: Like it's kind of funny because like he got tested 234 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 2: a lot last year, won a lot of those battles, 235 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: and there was some you know, I guess got tested 236 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: to some degree in practice this week and won a 237 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: lot of those battles as well. I think like Brandon 238 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: Stevens not giving up snaps like he he is going 239 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: to be out there every single stat and I think 240 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: Marlin is is as well. And then and then you 241 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: talk about Nate Wiggins and we've all been once. 242 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens. You know, I really like about Brandon Stevens. 243 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: When the balls in the air, Brandon Stevens is a 244 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: dog like like you know, I'm not saying like, you know, 245 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: he'll get some interceptions, but I don't know that he's 246 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: like a ball hooking guy, but like, like he does 247 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: not freak out. There's like no part of Brandon Stevens 248 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: when the ball's in there. It's just like he's a dog. Yeah. 249 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: I really like him. Yeah, at the point of kind 250 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: of contact or whatnot. Yeah, he goes up there and 251 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: brings us up physical and like look and he's like 252 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: really just quick. He's just an athlete. 253 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: Wiggins has been has been kind of at as advertised 254 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: and you're like looking around, You're like, Okay, where are 255 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: these snaps going to come from? Because then the other one, 256 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: like Arthur Mallette has been one of the standout players 257 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: of camp so far as you know, as that in 258 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: that nickel role, he's came up with multiple interceptions, and 259 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: you're like thinking about the secondary and and. 260 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: Like, how are we going to get all these guys 261 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: on the field. 262 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: How you going to get how are you going to 263 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: get Nate Wiggins and Eddie Jackson, you know snaps? How 264 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: were we gonna get Arthur Mallett on the field along 265 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: with Kyle Hamilton and Marcus Like, there's just a lot 266 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: of talent in that group. Which, look, we've seen it before. 267 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: It's really important to be deep in the secondary because 268 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: players get danged up and you miss time and and 269 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: so you need you need to be deep there or 270 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: else you're in trouble. Well, the Ravens are, but they're 271 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: not just deep. They're they've got talent. They're not top heavy, 272 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: They're not just deep like they are both And I 273 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: think that that is that is really going to serve 274 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: this team. 275 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Well, I agree, I completely agree. I think this secondary. 276 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens led the league in takeaways last year. 277 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: They were tied for fourth in interceptions, even though they 278 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: lost their interceptions leader in Geno Stone, who led the 279 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: AFC was seven last year. It would not surprise me 280 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: if they got more interceptions they did a year ago. Yeah, 281 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 282 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: I think that I do think that takeaways are a 283 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: little bit fluky. An element of them can be fluky, 284 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: so like it's hard for me to say like, oh, 285 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna reach that takeaways number. 286 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: But beyond the takeaways, to me, I just think that 287 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: they're going to be incredibly hard to move the ball on. 288 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: Like again, Lamar wasn't out there, so you caveat everything 289 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: with that. But there were times in practice this week 290 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: where it felt like it was a grind for the 291 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: offense to complete a three yard pass in the flat, 292 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: Like it felt like it was challenging to do that 293 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: against the secondary. 294 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very good secondary, and and they're getting 295 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: help from the guys up front. Yes, you know, let's 296 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: give those guys their props. I thought o'dafeoway had a 297 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: huge week of practice. I mean to the point where 298 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: John Harball had to say, all right, Budd, you gotta 299 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: like dial it down a little bit. All right, we 300 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: got you got to stay away from the quarterbacks more. 301 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: We got to take care of them. You know, you're 302 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: you're disrupting practice too much, right, Like that says something, 303 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: And so I think uh, you know, another highly motivated 304 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: player had the fifth year option picked up. I know 305 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: we've we've we've said this before. We've gone down this 306 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: road with a Daffioway where like Mini camp OTA's training camp, 307 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: like man a Dafe always reckon shop and like you know, 308 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: he had a good season last year, he hasn't had 309 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: I think the breakout yet that all of us have 310 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: anticipated from a first round pick with his he was 311 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: as athletically gifted as he is. But this could be 312 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: the year, all right, No, I think it could. 313 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: I mean he uh, he shared when he talked on 314 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: podium this week that you know, he had an offseason surgery. 315 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: He didn't say exactly what it was. You know, he 316 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: was asked about that and he was like, yeah, it 317 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: was just mine and nothing to worry about, but said 318 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: that that you know, helped him get healthy. And you know, 319 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was something that was it 320 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: was something that at least required a procedure. I don't 321 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: know how much of a factor that bothered him. You 322 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: know it was last year. He has dealt with injuries 323 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: like so you got to when you think about his 324 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: his story, raw player, late to football, all that stuff. 325 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: A lot of talent, but late to football, late bloomer, 326 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: and then has dealt with injuries his first three years. 327 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: So you have like a somewhat developmental player with enormous talent, 328 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: but a little bit a little bit raw even he 329 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: would admit that. And then he's dealt with injuries the 330 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: last couple of years, nothing major, but nagging, you know, 331 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: an angle or what I can't even remember, you know, 332 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: but like it'll be things to keep you out or 333 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: you're dealing with on a on a week to week basis. 334 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: And so I really think that he is poised. The 335 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: Ravens gave him that fifty year option for a reason. 336 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: It picked up that fift ye option for a reason, 337 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: because they have confidence in him. And I think that 338 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: he I think that he is definitely he's gonna have 339 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: opportunities and he's poised to have a double digit sacks season. 340 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: And I think that the other thing I like too 341 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: is once the Pattis came on on Friday, Uh, he 342 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: did not disappear. 343 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: He was just as active. 344 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: I mean, there was two straight plays where he blew by, 345 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: you know, Ronnie Stanley. On the second one, Ronnie was 346 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: kind of holding him a little bit but o way 347 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: was in the backfield. On another play, he came around 348 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: the right side, so like he's moved around and he 349 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: is living in the backfield. 350 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: And if he can keep that inside move on McCarry, 351 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: he kind of got him with the that was that 352 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: was the outside, go inside underneath. 353 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: Josh Johnson looked up and he had a dafe away 354 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: in a state man Justin Mattie six inches away from him, 355 00:15:59,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: and it's. 356 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: Like, look out, that was jailbreak. Yeah, And I mean 357 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: they were on him in a hurry. Yeah. 358 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: And if Oway can, like if Oway can keep a 359 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: rolling into the season the way he's been playing so 360 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: far in camp, that's the question, you know, then I 361 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: think that we're gonna be talking about him as a 362 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: breakout player. 363 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of the defensive line and Justin Matta b K. 364 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: I think I think that's gonna be the strength. I've 365 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: said it a couple of times now. I won't lounge 366 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: listeners to remember this. Okay, Well, you're gonna say it's 367 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: the strength of the team. I'm saying it's the best 368 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the best unit of the team. 369 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: What are you saying? You start to say, I think 370 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the strength defensive I think the defensive 371 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: line is going to be a strength of this team 372 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: and one of the best defensive lines in the league. Yeah. 373 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: I think by the season's end, people are gonna be 374 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: like talking about the Ravens defensive line and just like 375 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: how dominant that line is. 376 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a lot. Honestly, I think 377 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: there's a lot of strengths on the defense. We already 378 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: covered the secondary. I think I think the d line 379 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: is good and I think a linebackers not bad either. 380 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: With rukwand Smith and then Trents sends agree player the 381 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: question on. 382 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: The defense or do they have enough pass rush? And 383 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Trent and Simpson I've liked. I liked what I saw 384 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: from Trenton Simpson today and day one of pads. He 385 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: was he was getting after it a little bit, popped 386 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: a couple of guys. Uh. Him and Justice Hill got 387 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: into a little match, got into a little bit. I 388 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: mean he's feisty. I mean Trenton Hill is like Trent Simpson. 389 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Trent Hill, which what you talk about one 390 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: jumble of player, But Trenton Simpson like if you were 391 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: like just to bump into him, in the cafeteria, Like 392 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: might be the nicest guy on the team. Yeah, I mean, 393 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: like the most polite, like buttoned up guy, like you 394 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: can tell he's the son of a military feel like family. 395 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: And uh, but he's he's feisty. He's fisty out there 396 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: and I like that. Yeah, and uh, I think that 397 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: he was flying around and hitting and yeah, I'm excited 398 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: about him. But those are the questions on the defense. 399 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: Back to D line, that is not a question mark 400 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: in my mind. It's gonna be really good. Justin Madda 401 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: b Ka is awesome. He might he talked about the 402 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: top one hunter rankings. He might be too low too. Yeah, right. 403 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: And and then Travis Jones I think has been one 404 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: of my weak one standouts. Just a monster, you know. 405 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: He says he wants to get after it more than 406 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: pass rush. It's looked like it, you know. And I 407 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: also just a monster in the run defense. Michael Pierce, 408 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy at first second straight year, 409 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: will be again one of the better NOS tackles in 410 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: the league. Brodock Washington, I think is another player who's 411 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: taking a big step forward playing with the dog mentality, 412 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: not sim yappin it players offensive players number of times. 413 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: I like that too. And playing just there's a goal 414 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: a goal line run where Justice Ill literally just bounced 415 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: off him. I don't even think Brig Washington like had 416 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: his back turned almost to him and he just bounced 417 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: off him. Yeah, and uh so I think this defensive 418 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: line is really strong. 419 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 2: The other thing I'll say on the defensive front, it's 420 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: not the line, but it's a pass rush is David 421 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: Ajabo has been out there full go and flashed at times, 422 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: and I think that's really encouraging. Like, you know, this 423 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: is a guy who had acl surgery last year, and 424 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: so he's he's full speed at the start of camp, 425 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: participating in every you know, in every drill, no restrictions 426 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: out there in the first day of full pads, active. 427 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: You know, moving all over the place. 428 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: So like, you know, I think that I still think 429 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: for him, like there is he's he's I think physically 430 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: he's he's feels good. But I think that it's been 431 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: a while for him since he's played football, and so 432 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: I think that like there's part of a reacclimation period. 433 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: I think that he'll start to kind of take off 434 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: a little bit as camp continues, But I've just been 435 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: encouraged to the fact that he's out there, Like that's 436 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: a win, just like start, just start there, you're on 437 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: the field, you're healthy. That is a big that's a 438 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: big starting point for him. And so I've been encouraged 439 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: that he's been able to be out there. And you know, 440 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: this is obviously a big year for him, and we 441 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: all know like the injury struggles that he's dealt with 442 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: so far. But if he can, if he can stay healthy, 443 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a good player. 444 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we talked about all these sex and whatnot. 445 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: That leads us to a conversation about the offensive line. Yeah, 446 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: and it's always a two way street in training camp. Well, man, 447 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: the wide receivers are looking awesome. Oh, I guess, then 448 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: not so much. Yeah, you know, I mean we're talking 449 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: about all these sex. Second secondary is looking amazing, you know, 450 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: Olamar Jackson. You know, so it's all connected exactly, and 451 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: so you know, the offensive line I think is a 452 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: work in progress. I thought when the pads came on Friday, 453 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: I thought that they were fine. Like, you know, we 454 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: talked about that one play where it was that play 455 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: was not fine. That was not a good one. They 456 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: won't put that one on the teach tape. Yeah, But 457 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: like I did not come away from Friday's practice first 458 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: one with the pads on being like, oh my gosh, 459 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: the line like I am hit the panic button. You know, 460 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: it's red alert here. Like I didn't come away with 461 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: feeling like that. 462 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think that I do 463 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: not think that the position battles are at all completed. 464 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: I think they're just really John Harball has basically said 465 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: this all off season, like they that position battle really 466 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: takes off once the pats come on. 467 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: Now the pass are on. 468 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: The Other thing I thought that was kind of interesting 469 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: is like I think the Ravens are going to give 470 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: it a good look. Like I don't think they're necessarily 471 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: in a rush to start moving guys all over the place. 472 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: Joe d the offensive line coach, talked about basically you 473 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: want to give it a little bit of time and 474 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: see how it progresses. And so I think that they're 475 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 2: gonna they're going to keep some guys in these positions. 476 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: So for example, they're given Daniel Alele a chance to 477 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: win that starting right guard job. You know this is 478 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: a guy also late to football, biggest player in the 479 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: NFL really more of a tackle you would think, just 480 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: given his size, and they're giving him a chance at 481 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: right guard. You know, there's not any other six to 482 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: eight four hundred pounds, you know, pushing three eighty four 483 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 2: hundred whatever his weighted, but he's pushing it. You know, 484 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: he's in that range. Like there's nobody in that in 485 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: that mix who's a guard in the NFL. So the 486 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: Ravens are giving him a chance there, but it's like 487 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: it's it's a work in progress, is basically the way 488 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: that Jod described it. They like him, that think he 489 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: has good feet and you see that, but you know 490 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: he's still developing, right. 491 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: I think that really in the competition for the three 492 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: open starting offensive line positions, that Andrew Voorhees is the 493 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: only one that's created a little bit of separation in 494 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: my opinion. I mean, I would say at least probably 495 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: the leader at rate guard. At least they wouldn't give him, 496 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: as you're saying, that long look. And then you know, 497 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: if they were starting game tomorrow, I think it would 498 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: probably be Pat McCarey at right tackle. You know, I mean, 499 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: you know what he offers, he's done it a number 500 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: of times before. He's a veteran, like he's the reliable 501 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: person you know what you can get out of Roger 502 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: Rosegarten has got to wrestle away from him, yeah, you know, 503 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: and the rookie hasn't done that yet, right, But there's time, right. 504 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: And I also don't think that, like I don't think 505 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: that he hasn't even really had time to wrestle it 506 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: away from him yet because now like now that the 507 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: pads have come on and the preseason games are, you know, 508 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 2: two weeks away, that's when we're really going to get 509 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: a chance to see it. But this is going to 510 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: be an important time I think for Roger Rosegarden in particular. 511 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: It's really for all those guys along the old line, 512 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: but him in particular and Fallele, Like, I just think 513 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: that he's an intriguing guy because he has he's just 514 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: an enormous player who they see something in him to 515 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: give him that shot at guard. And you know, do 516 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 2: you think he's still working on conditioning? You know, I 517 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: think that's something that's still like something that he's continuing 518 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: to work on. But I think that he has this 519 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: talent in the head. He has good feed and it's 520 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: if if he can play that position you feel good about, 521 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: you know, his knowledge of the position, his ability to 522 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: hold up the conditioning, all that stuff, then you might 523 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: have something kind of special with a guy that size 524 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: of that position. 525 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought Tody Monkins said it well this week 526 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: when talking about the offensive line. He said, look, guys, 527 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: we made the moves we did because we feel we 528 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: feel like we have talented players, right, right, Like you can, 529 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: it's fair to question it, like we'll see if it 530 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: worked out, right, of trading Morgan Moses and letting Zeitler 531 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: and John Simpson each walk for deals that average six 532 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: million dollars per year, right, and you saved five and 533 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: a half or something from the trade of Morgan Mooses. Right, 534 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: So it was financial reasons. There was injury reasons. Those 535 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: guys were banged up from last year. Morgan Moses had 536 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: off season procedure. Yeah, Kevin Zeitler, Yeah, really Simpson, but 537 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: the other two not Simpson, but the other two, right, 538 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Zeitler hasn't practiced, didn't practice all summer. I 539 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: don't know if he's on the field now in training camp, 540 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: but he didn't any to this point. In Detroit, and 541 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: like an age, right, like injured guys who are older, 542 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, you you feel nervous about that them coming 543 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: back from those and you felt like you had talented 544 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: guys who were more inexpensive, right, And so like the 545 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: Ravens made those decisions because they're confident in the talent 546 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: they have. Those talented players need time to develop even 547 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: though they have the talent, right, Like you just need 548 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: practice time, you need you need to get thrown out there. 549 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: And uh, that's what's going on now. And like it's 550 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: not going to look like the starting line is not 551 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: going to be a finished product. It's not like you're 552 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: going to be a finished product by week one, by 553 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: week three, by week five. You know they're going to 554 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: get better as the season goes along. That's the intention. 555 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: Because these are young players. They got to be good 556 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: enough to beat the Chiefs. They have to be right, 557 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: you know, that's the matter of fact. Not much of 558 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: a ramp up once you get into the regular seat, right, 559 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: you're not the raven Cravens coaches aren't going to give 560 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: him a freebie and be like, ah, you're young, it's okay. 561 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: If you know the Chiefs get six sacks week one. 562 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: You gotta be good. You gotta be good. That's the fact. 563 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: And like I don't know if they're if they're good 564 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: enough yet, but they still have a month, six weeks 565 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: to get better. Yeah, and they will. 566 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, you asked Tyler Linderbaum about basically 567 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: this this notion, this question of like everyone's basically saying 568 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: that the line is the biggest question, and he was like, well, 569 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: those questions are warranted. We have to replace three starters, right, 570 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: Like that's what. 571 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: We're working on doing. 572 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: I thought he was pretty like honest, he was good 573 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: feedback on that, Like, yeah, I get the question, I 574 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: understand it, but like we're on our mission is. 575 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: To prove that it was that we can be just 576 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: as good. Yeah. 577 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: So all right, the second quick break when we come back, 578 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: we're going to dive into one of the themes that 579 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: have come out of this first week of practice and 580 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: have a little debate around there and. 581 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Bull bur practice Player of the Week. 582 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: You have your crown ready, I have my crown to 583 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: crown somebody you're listening to the launch podcast, We're coming 584 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: to you from the Sea Geek Studio. 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For help, visit MD 594 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: gambling heelp dot org or call one eight hundred gambler. 595 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: Before we dive into this debate, I also want to 596 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: mention that we've got a game coming up soccer game 597 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: before we get to the football games. We've got a 598 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: soccer game coming up at mbcbak Staium between AC Milan 599 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: FC Barcelona. It's on August sixth, so you can get 600 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: tickets for that. Should be a lot of fun. I 601 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: know there's a lot of soccer fans uh in the area. 602 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: And then of course the Ravens have their preseason opener 603 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: on August ninth, but the soccer games coming up on 604 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: August six so if you are a soccer fan you 605 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: want to see a cmlan FC Barcelona, you can check 606 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: that out at Mt Bak Stadium, So make. 607 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: Sure you get your tickets for that. You can get 608 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: those on seat geek. 609 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: So one of the themes that came out of this 610 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: first week was we talked a lot about the defense 611 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: and how good the defense can be. We both believe 612 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: that the Ravens defense last year was the best in 613 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: the league, and most of the categories back that up. 614 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: The trifecta right number one in in a yard takeaways, 615 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: in the trip we were we were calling was it points, 616 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: we were calling it the triple crown. But we just 617 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of picked three categories that they happened to be 618 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: number one. Hey, it still counts. 619 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: But but so I think that I think one in 620 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: scaring the quarterback, I think. 621 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: They were number one. 622 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: But do you think this this year's defense will be 623 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: even better than last year's. 624 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: M m hmmm. That last year's defense is pretty fierce. 625 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: It was pretty fierce. Now, of course, they've lost some 626 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: key players. She Davian Clowney here and Patrick Queen, Ronald 627 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: Darby and Ginos tom So some some important players from 628 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: last year's group that they have to replace. Feel good 629 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: about who they have here, but can it be even better? 630 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Ken it? Well, it don't give me the whole it 631 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: could Yeah, you know wal it. Hey, dang, you tried. 632 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: You try to carry I tried, you know. I think 633 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: what's working against it most of all is that opponents 634 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: have a better look at the film and can understand 635 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: it better. I think that the Ravens that's why everybody 636 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: wanted to hire our defensive coaches, right, It's part of 637 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: the reason why Mike McDonald got a head coaching job. 638 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver is now the DC in Miami, Dennard is 639 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: now in Tennessee. Is there DC, Like, everybody wanted a 640 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: piece of the Ravens defense because from a schematic standpoint, 641 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: like it was the new hot thing, it was the 642 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: next evolution, and it had answers for a lot of 643 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: these challenges that offenses are presenting these days with motion 644 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: and with different things like the Ravens scheme and the 645 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: way that John Harball and his coaches have evolved. It 646 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: is second to none. And now it's We've said this 647 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: many times before, it's a copycat league, and the league 648 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: catches up right and I don't think that they're going 649 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: to completely catch up because I think part of the 650 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: beauty of the Ravens defenses is, like I just said, 651 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: it has answers for everything, right, so they're there. It's 652 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: just so well designed that like, and it can do 653 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: The Ravens can do so many different things in any 654 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: given game that like, there's no one way to attack it. 655 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: But with all that said, I think that like opponents 656 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: will have a better understanding of what they want to 657 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: do against it. They will they will understand a little 658 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: bit more perhaps how that quarterback will know how to 659 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: read it and be able to anticipate what they're gonna 660 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: do a little bit better. I think that's working against them. Yeah, yeah, 661 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm less concerned about it matching up from a personnel standpoint, 662 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, Like I think that the loss of Jadeveon Clowney, 663 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: that David Ajabo will make up for some of that, 664 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: and I think that the rise of even a player 665 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: like Tavius Robinson will help make up for some of that. 666 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: I think Oda o'dafaoa will have a better season than 667 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: last year that will help offset that. I think that, 668 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, the defensive line is going to get even 669 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: more sacks potentially than it did last year. That'd be 670 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: tough because Matta Bay at thirteen. I think Travis Jones 671 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: is gonna get more, and I think Brady's gonna get 672 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Can Mad be a match last season, 673 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: That's tough, But I think he's gonna be you off 674 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: as close and he could beat it. I don't think 675 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: that's impossible, certainly by any means. My point being, I 676 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: think I think they'll be able to absorb the loss 677 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: of Clowney, yeah, collectively, and I think Eddie Jackson Queen 678 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: be just as good as Gina said. Yeah, I think 679 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: Trenton Simpson by the end of the season will be 680 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: saying We'll all be saying that he replaced Patrick Queen adequately, 681 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: that he that he did it right, Like that's the 682 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: mission this year, step into that spot, replaced Patrick Queen, 683 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: and I think he will check that box by the 684 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: end of the year. I don't think week one he's 685 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: gonna be as good as Patrick Queen was at the 686 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: end of last season, and Patrick Queen took time to 687 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: grow into the role and develop and all that stuff. 688 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna put as much on Trent 689 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: and Simpson's plate week one is as Patrick Queen. He 690 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: played one hundred percent of the snaps when he was 691 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: out there. You know, So I think Trent and Simpson 692 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: and I have a lot of faith in him. So 693 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm not super concerned from a personnel standpoint, and I 694 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: think Zach Gorr is going to be a fantastic course. 695 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: Is just the long, the long answer just to say no, 696 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: I think last year's gonna be better. 697 00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, I was forget the question right by my 698 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: pre evel got over that. Yeah, I did have to. Actually, 699 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a really high bar and I think 700 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: saying that they're going to be better is that's a 701 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: tough thing to say. Yeah, I feel but I do 702 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: I think that they can. I think they are. I 703 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: think they are capable. Yeah, I think I definitely think 704 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: they're capable. And that's not just like blowing smoke, like 705 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: the fake easy answer to get out of it, like sure, 706 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: I actually think that they can. Sure. 707 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: No, I think to your point about everyone wanting piece 708 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: of the Ravens defense, well you're talking about that. I 709 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: was thinking, so you look at all the teams that 710 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: are going to be running this system. Of course, Seattle 711 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: with Mike McDonald, Tennessee with Dennard Wilson, Miami with Anthony 712 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: Weaver down there, the Ravens obviously LA, and then LA 713 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,239 Speaker 2: with Jesse Mentor who and Jim Harball has said that 714 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: he just stole the Ravens defense, you know that basically. 715 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: This was the model. 716 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: And so Mike went there, and then Jesse replaced Mike 717 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: and Michigan now Jesse Mintor, who was defensive coordinator Michigan 718 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: is now with Jim in LA. So that's five teams 719 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: right there, And that's not even counting other defensive coordinators 720 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: who are implementing elements. 721 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Which everybody's been watching the Ravens. 722 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: So I think that like there's there's gonna be elements 723 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: or just you know, systems within this. 724 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: Well, not every other team has the personnel that the 725 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: Ravens do. Not everybody has a Kyle Hamilton, right, who's 726 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: like this crazy Swiss army knife that kind of makes 727 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Not everybody has a Roquan Smith, Yeah he's that and 728 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: a pass rushing you know, justin Mattabeek is a freak 729 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: pass rusher a defense tackle. So yeah, you can't the 730 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: players matter too, right. The scheme is really good. But 731 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: like if you don't have the players, it's hard to 732 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: run that scheme. 733 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think, uh, even being hard to 734 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: run the scheme, like it's when you have the talent 735 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: the Ravens have on defense, it's hard to match that. 736 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: I think that, yes, the Ravens have lost some pieces 737 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: and like I don't I'm not gonna I do think 738 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: Trent Simpson will do it adequately. I think that, like 739 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: you know, I know a lot of Ravens fans, and 740 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: Patrick Queen has had a fuel to the whole Steelers 741 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: rivalry element. Like I I do think that, like some 742 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: people are forgetting how good Patrick Queen was last year 743 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: and how big of a difference maker in my mind 744 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: he was for the defense. I thought he was excellent 745 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: last year, So I like I think that he is 746 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: he is challenging to replace. I do think, yeah, I 747 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 2: agree with your assessment of Simpson being able to do it. 748 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: I also think that, like the Ravens really hit big 749 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: with like the free agent acquisitions and having great seasons 750 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: like Clowney was awesome, Like Clowney had the best season 751 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: of his career probably and no one expected that when 752 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: he signed. 753 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: And now is that the system is delivered more than 754 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: you were expecting. 755 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, people, so like you are are you going to 756 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: be able to get that that you know, replacing that 757 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: production is not is not that easy. But I do 758 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: think what we do discount is, like we have the 759 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: whole conversation around Marlin Humphrey. 760 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: You basically got not much out of Maryland last year. 761 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: Now you're going to get him at a at a 762 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: very high all pro caliber level. Last year, you didn't 763 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: get a ton out of Marcus Williams because of his injury, 764 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: and even when he came back, he was dealing with that. 765 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: So like, now let's just say you have Marcus william 766 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: healthy and you have Marlon Humphrey healthy. Okay, well those 767 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: are two massive additions to your defense, right, So I 768 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: think that like all things considered. 769 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: Ojabo, Yeah, of course a jabo. 770 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: You know, I think that factors into the clowning conversation. 771 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I feel the same way. I 772 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: think that a lot went right for the Ravens last 773 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: year from a from a stats standpoint, So I don't 774 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: know that they'll match all the same stats, but I 775 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 2: do think that they have the pieces to do it. 776 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: Even if they don't end up with that triple crown 777 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: that they won last year. From a statistical standpoint, I 778 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: still think it's going to be one of the very 779 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 2: best defenses in football. 780 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. All Right, your practice star 781 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: of the week, who you got, let's crown somebody. I'm 782 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: going to Marlon Humphrey. 783 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I think you did the interview with him, and 784 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: now this is the classic. You do the interview, yep, 785 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: and now you're giving him the crown. 786 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: That's correct. He's a friend of the lounge, friend of 787 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: the lounge, friend of my recorder. Yeah. Yeah, I'm giving 788 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: to Marlow especially you know, you missed all OTAs and 789 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: really most of mini mini camp didn't really do full 790 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: team stuff at all as he kind of had whatever 791 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: nagging kind of injuries to come back out and practice 792 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: the way he did this week, especially getting his hands 793 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: on the ball. Marlin's not known for interceptions. He's known 794 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: for punching the ball out fruit punch, but getting picks 795 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: that's different. Yeah, and uh, I just think he he 796 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: looks like a determined dude out there on that field, 797 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: and he's playing really well, which is which is huge 798 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: for the Ravens defense. Yeah, I agree. 799 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: Uh, the other guy that I'll point to is a DAFAOA. 800 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: He'll get mine. 801 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I thought he was all over the field 802 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: before the pass came on. Once the pass came on, 803 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: I thought he was awesome. 804 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: So I know he wasn't all over the field. He 805 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: was in the backfield. Yeah, he wasn't dropping, you know, 806 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: deep in the secondary. That's fair. He was in the back. 807 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: I know where he was in the quarterbacks laugh. 808 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: It's true, that's true. So I thought he had a 809 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: great practice. So if those two guys can keep it up, 810 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: then this defense, you know, they might be the bet. 811 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,479 Speaker 2: It might be even better than last year. So as always, 812 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: you could email us at the Lounge at Ravens NFL 813 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 2: dot net. Also head over to the Ravens Press Pass 814 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: podcast feed. All of our press conferences live there in 815 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: their entirety. Thank you so much for listening, and we 816 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: will be back with you next week