1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Really look at this now, tip top, Jesus. 2 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Will be luck. 3 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: It's time bound. Oh yeah, let's do this thing. A 4 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: lot to recap from the weekend that was welcome on end. 5 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: This is Morning Combat, Monday, December eight, twenty and twenty five, 6 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: fresh off the final pay per view of the ESPN 7 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: UFC era, A changing of the guard atop the two 8 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: lowest men's weight classes, and yet another draw Lamont Roach 9 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: Junior on the PBC side, Brian Campbell, your host today, 10 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 3: on the right side of the screen representing Connecticut and 11 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 3: the kwa Quah. Okay, you know what I'm saying right 12 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 3: there because I'm barely pronouncing it. On the other side 13 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: of me, DC's finest, Luke Thomas. Yes, Luke Franklin Thomas 14 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: LFT in the house. Uh Luke, how is your uh 15 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: your testosterone at this levels at this moment you're. 16 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: Scre I mean it's been declining for years and probably 17 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: at states that are pathetic and largely undetectable with medical science. 18 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: But I'm fucking here, Okay, all right? 19 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you Hey, Hey, I didn't watch it live. 20 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 3: I did catch up on everything I needed this morning, 21 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: but UFC three twenty three did you enjoy it. 22 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: Man, I'll tell you what prelims were insane uh opener 23 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: on the mint card. No, it was whatever. I didn't 24 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: you know, but I thought everything after that was pretty great. 25 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: And as we'll talk, well, you know what the co 26 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: main event was real anti club. That was a problem. 27 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a new al Joe Sterling and his 28 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: name is Joshua Van. 29 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: But that main event was special. That was really really special. 30 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 4: So you know, I enjoyed that a lot. 31 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: Shout out to Pewter Yon, Pyota, PoTA, fantastic stuff. Let's 32 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: introduce a man who is very well versed in PoTA. 33 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: He is a producer, director, the third man of our 34 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: teammate Bong enthusiast and good lord was his dad Horny 35 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: about three decades ago. Coming from Australia. It's Luke no 36 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: Seeda of the main card. 37 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: Minute. 38 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure Luke, you were live streaming like a mofo 39 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: on Saturday. 40 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 5: I was, and I was very disappointed when Morob lost. 41 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 5: You know, we're still mourning today BC. I'm not not 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 5: too happy about it. Josh Van didn't seem to mind 43 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: to get the aljo in there. He was beating his 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 5: chest on top of the cage like he just won 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 5: it all. 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, big moment for me and Mark. 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 6: I don't call it Burma, all right, Yeah, I won't 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 6: call it Burma. He wasn't alive when it was called Burma. 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: So there you go. 50 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: All right, there you go. Special thank you to all 51 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: the consistent viewers the hot I'm looking at you right now. 52 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in today. Shout out to everybody 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: watching on the DraftKings Network. If you could like and 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: subscribe here on YouTube, or if you're an audio only 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: divorced dad currently grocery shopping, we'd appreciate that. Follow our 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 3: extended YouTube channels. Long Island Luke's main card minute as well. 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: Oh quickly, l I L how did it go with 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: GC versus Old New York rickover on the prop quiz? 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to give any spoilers in 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 5: case people haven't caught it yet. 61 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 6: You know, I'd like to give. 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 5: These some life. But it was very close, came down 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: to the last one, very entertaining episode. Gonna have a 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 5: new one this week, so everyone stayshow. 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: A phenomenon Luke Thomas, that he's built you and I 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: we suck at it? But what a phenomenon he's built. 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: You know, Oh, I suck the most, but indeed. 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean I could have told you that, 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: you know, whether we're talking about trivia or not, Luke. 70 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: But also, if you want to dress like us and 71 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: feel like us, and maybe even look like us, how 72 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: about you go to Morning Combat Dot shop. December exclusives 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: are in the building. 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Long Island, 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: Luke included Luke Thomas before we dig so damn deep, right, 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: so deep into the combat of the weekend. How are 84 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: you doing personally? 85 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: I'm tired, bro, I'm so glad that these pay per 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: views are moving to nine am, and I know every 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: European person Yeah, well, looking get over. It's like, dude, 88 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: I've been doing this. I've been giving up my Saturday 89 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: nights for twenty years. Like more than that. Actually, I'm tired. 90 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: I'm tired. It's actually the thing is when I was 91 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: single and just sleep in, you know, get up when 92 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: you want. But dude, that the Tuchster is up at 93 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: seven am and she is ready to play. So it's 94 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: you know, I'm tired, Dude. 95 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: The dukes don't even need meldonium. She's just going at all. 96 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, no meldonium at seven am, and she is, you know, 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: a bucking bronco. Yeah. 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I only slept a couple hours Saturday in early flight, 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: and you know, it's harder and harder to bounce back. 100 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 3: Not to complain about a fantastic life, but I slept 101 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: a lot of yesterday and this morning, and I'll probably 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: sleep again after this. Look, because we are old pieces 103 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: of shit. Yeah, people keep tuning in, so God bless them. 104 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 7: All. 105 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: Right, let's do it, let's get fired up. Let's unwrap 106 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: what went down this past Saturday night Las Vegas, UFC 107 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: three twenty three, and as we mentioned, ESPN plus Era 108 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: goodbye except for next week's fight night. We will welcome 109 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: in the launch and start of the Paramount CBS era. 110 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: But in the main event on Saturday night, looking to 111 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: create history for himself was Banna Whit champion Morob de 112 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: vallas Vili. Four trainee camps in one calendar year. Did 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: it all catch up with him? We'll have Luke Thomas 114 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: here to break it down in the second. Either way, 115 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: what a night for former champion pyotor Yan who came 116 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: out and stuff takedowns from Arob, switch dances out boxed 117 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: him and really used that stiff jab to mark up 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: his face, becoming a two time champion and what turned 119 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: into a route of Morob four to one on most 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: scorecards except for Daniel Cormiers, who just could not believe 121 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: that anyone would score those early rounds against him. Luke, 122 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: just how special was this victory for pyotr Yan and 123 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: what made it ultimately such a noteworthy achievement Here years 124 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: removed from being decued against al Joe, came back from 125 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: a three fight losing skid, built up a three fight 126 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: win skid. But yet the performance we saw on Saturday 127 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: none of us predicted. 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: There was a stat by a friend to a colleague 129 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: of mine ovin I don't know how to pronounced his 130 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: last name, and please forgive me. 131 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: They call him osp yeah. 132 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: No ovin vicinage. I might be saying it wrong. He 133 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: is a great sort of member of the online MMA community. 134 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: He does some work I think for MMA point and 135 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: he's done something. He's helped me a little bit as well. 136 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: He found a crazy stat BC, and I think it 137 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: really speaks to just how brilliant and special Saturday Night was. 138 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: I did not know this. One thing that we have 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: talked about pretty consistently on the show BC is you know, 140 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: when someone has a UFC title then they lose it. 141 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: For the most part, they never get it back. And 142 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: if they do get it back BC, it tends to 143 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: happen relatively quickly, sometimes with an immediate rematch or trilogy, 144 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: whatever the case may be, or they move a weight 145 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: class right within relatively short order, like you know, I 146 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: think of Poeton for example, doing something along those lines. 147 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: Those tend to be the scenarios. But the sort of 148 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: maximum is that a you don't get it back and 149 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: then be you know, if you do, it has to 150 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: happen very very quickly. But there are very very very rare, 151 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: rare cases in MMA where it can last years before 152 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 4: someone reclaims it. Carlos Parz is actually holding the record, 153 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: but I think we can all agree that that's not 154 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: the kind of authoritative when to reclaim it that we 155 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: got from Pyotr Jan. But it actually goes much further 156 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: than that PC. I think Jan is third all time 157 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: in terms of distance between losing a title and then 158 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: regaining it. But but here is where he stands utterly alone. 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: He is the first fighter to have a UFC title, 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: then go on a three fight losing streak, and then 161 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: reclaim the title that has literally never been done until 162 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: Saturday Night in any era, any gender, any weight class, period. 163 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: He's the only guy that holds that distinction. BC. You 164 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: asked about how special it was to be able to 165 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: defy the virtual laws of MMA gravity in this way 166 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: is by itself its own kind of achievement. But to 167 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: do that against a guy who was I know we're 168 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: gonna talk about how drained he was, but I'm sorry, 169 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: we don't need to undercut Yahn's win. I picked Morob 170 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: to win. We all said we're gonna pick him until 171 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: we have a reason not to. He is put together 172 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: the most impressive bansomweight career of any bandsom weight that's 173 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: ever been there. To do it against a guy like 174 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: that with those circumstances, BC, and to do it with 175 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: the kind of technical and strategic mastery that he put 176 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: into it, it's just I'm serious. It's one of the 177 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: all time best UFC title winning performances. I'm not saying 178 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: it's number one, I haven't ranked it in that WAYBC, 179 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: but it's on the very very short list. This guy 180 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: proved tons of people wrong, me and others included, and 181 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: defied all the known laws of the MMA universe to 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: accomplish that with the longest journey to get back to 183 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: that date, this is just magisterial, true. 184 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: And the and the losing skid that he didn't incur 185 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: was obviously against super elite competition on basically the title level, 186 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: and there were some split decisions as we talked about 187 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: coming into this week, But No, I didn't necessarily expect 188 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: the command the increase in the striking. We knew head 189 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: to head. If it was a five round boxing match, 190 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: Jean would have an edge. But you're not gonna be 191 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: able to create that or kickboxing match unless you're able 192 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 3: to stuff the takedowns, stuff the spamming, and then provide 193 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 3: a takedown thread of his own, taking down Morob three times. 194 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: The mental journey that Yan went on, Uh, it's incredible, 195 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: It's incredible. 196 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: Bots. 197 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: I was actually oping his sons were gonna be allowed 198 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: in the cage. Do you remember when or when Yon 199 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: scored his third straight win on this comeback tour, his 200 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: son was in there and gave like a you know, 201 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: emphatic emotional you know, I love my dad, you know, 202 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: kind of reversed mister Wideman there. But what a performance. 203 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: But but Luke, I now go through a lot of 204 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: things Morob said or did during fight week, and I 205 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: know that we did plant that seed Friday as we 206 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: should have with all the comments he made about the 207 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: way cut, I do have to ask you this question 208 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: before we get any further congratulations. Did Marob play himself 209 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: like was the as much as we were identifying this 210 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: as such a daring to be great, capitalizing on your prime, 211 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: looking to make history, did he ultimately I don't know 212 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: if greed is the word, greedy is the word, but 213 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: like in hindsight, this was this a horrific decision? Or 214 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: did he just straight up get beat in a second 215 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: chance by a fighter who was injured the first time, 216 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: healthy this time and upped his game along the way. 217 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, remember, did you can make an argument 218 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: that Yon won five to nothing? It's not crazy. I 219 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: did think that Morob won the first round. All three 220 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 4: judges gave Morob the first round. One judge gave him 221 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 4: the second round as well, and that's it. So he 222 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: basically won four to one, and you could have argued 223 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: it five to nothing. Could the fight have been closer 224 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: BC and maybe even gone the other way if this 225 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: had happened under somewhat different circumstances. I think that that's 226 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: a fair thing to consider, and Morale will get an 227 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: opportunity to prove such a thing. Well, actually we don't 228 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: know how that will go, but probably we'll get a 229 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: way to prove that. Like there's no way. Listen, here's 230 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: the reality, right. I have seen fighters who even in 231 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 4: cases where they won Fighter of the Year two thousand 232 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: and nine, Josialdo, twenty eleven, John Jones. They had four 233 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: fights in a year Jose Aldo, though only one of 234 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: those was a title fight in two thousand and nine. 235 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: In twenty eleven, for John Jones, he went four to 236 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: Zho and had four finishes, by the way, but three 237 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: of them were title fights. One was not the Ryan 238 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 4: Bader fight. Then you have twenty twenty where Devison Figuredo 239 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: does have four title fights, although he missed wait for 240 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: the first one so he was ineligible to win it, 241 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: but it still was a five round title fight, but 242 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: he went three to zero to one. He had a 243 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: draw in his last one. To my knowledge, certainly in 244 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: the modern era, no one has done this, not at 245 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: the UFC level. Maybe in other organizations, but not in 246 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: It's just never been done. Is very, very difficult to 247 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 4: do that kind of a thing. You can't ignore that, BC, 248 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: you can't. But we also just have to kind of 249 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: be honest. Like when you get a prediction right, cool, 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: when you get it wrong, time to think about why. 251 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: In this particular case, I don't think it was necessarily 252 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: wrong to maybe default to Yan the guy, or sorry, 253 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 4: default to Morob the guy had beaten him before. He 254 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 4: was on the run of all runs. You know that's 255 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: I think that's pretty fair. At the same time, BC, 256 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: you know he's human too. We've just been coasting in 257 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: this world where oh there are rules for everybody else 258 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: and Morob just defies them. But we finally found a 259 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: spot where the rules began to apply to him to 260 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 4: and he looked a lot more human as a consequence 261 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 4: he did. 262 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that's the reason why, because ultimately 263 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: Yan stuff the takedowns Yon scoring I was wrong Long Island. 264 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: Luke corrected me in real time, dead wrong me on. 265 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: A Monday five of nine. 266 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: So that all matters. The wrinkles in his boxing game matters, 267 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: and I don't. I'm not going to piss on Morob 268 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: for ambition and trying to be great, but now in hindsight, 269 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: I do have to say, not just the four training 270 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: camps in a year, in all that talk about the 271 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: way cut and we played that video Friday of DC 272 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: talking to Shaq on CBS Sports HQ and saying, Morob 273 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: cuts it in an old school style that you know 274 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: could leave him depleted. Again, I don't think that was 275 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: the reason why he lost. They said on the broadcast 276 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: he sparred five full rounds the morning of the fight, 277 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: like Morob has that Dennis Rodman level gas tank, where 278 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: after an NBA game, Rodman would go back on the 279 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: cardio vascular machines for another two hours just to get 280 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: that out of his system. But when I look back, 281 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: specifically the interview I had with Morob, and it's weird. 282 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: They played a quote of it on UFC Embedded episode 283 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: three last week, and I was kind of wondering why 284 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: they played the quote because it was a quote that 285 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: when Morob said it in real time, I sort of 286 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: went like, wait, wait, like that doesn't sound like super 287 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: confident champion. And the quote was he said he said 288 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: heading into the first Yon fight, which wasn't a title fight, 289 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: he wanted to win so badly because of the personal 290 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: trash talk back and forth between them, that in his 291 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: mind he was fighting to the death, he was fighting 292 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: for a title even though it wasn't one, and that 293 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: it was all personal and that's what fueled him. And 294 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: he goes, I don't know why, but in this rematch, 295 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: I don't feel the same emotions. He's like, I'm not 296 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: even nervous. I just feel like this is sport. And 297 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,359 Speaker 3: you know, so I'm now starting to wonder, if you know, Mariah, 298 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: was he being a little greedy trying to fit this 299 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: in to end the calendar year. I mean maybe, but 300 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: that fire didn't seem to be the same. It didn't 301 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: seem to be on that same level. I don't know. 302 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: Maybe it became a job this year to try to 303 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: get to that level of history and do this. And 304 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what would happen if Morob had had 305 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: six months off, you know, full camp, everything healthy, what 306 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: have you. A lot of this was Pyotr Jan rising 307 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: to the occasion, and that's what happens. And oh, by 308 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: the way, let's give him Rob credit. I mean, he's 309 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: like a beating. He made that a crazy fun fight. 310 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: It was a very good title fight. But in hindsight, 311 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: I think there are a few different lanes where you 312 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: can look at how Morob handled this whole thing and 313 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: kind of picked that apart. And I'm not gonna do 314 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: the Jed Michu and post the tweet and say, by 315 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 3: the way, Morob was never the go and you guys 316 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: all fell for it. But we did see a great 317 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: fighter in a time we thought was the absolute apex 318 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: peak of his career, looking to double down on history 319 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: over extend himself. I think we can say that firmly 320 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: at the very. 321 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: Least, he chased greatness and sometimes you're gonna get it 322 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: and sometimes you're not. And this is the part of 323 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: the stretch that is the most difficult, and he came 324 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: up short. I am perfectly. What is Jed's argue, Who 325 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: is the bantamway goat according to him? 326 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, but you remember on pregame preview, Jed 327 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: gave a long ran about Morob's just a you know, 328 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: decision machine, so you know, like not he's not the best. 329 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: His argument was Morob may have accumulated the type of 330 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: wins that could make you the bantam weight goat, but 331 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: because he's not a finisher, because he just sort of 332 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: leans on that cardio in the wrestling that he's not 333 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: the actual best fighter in Banas. 334 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 4: He's not. He's definitely not the best pure fighter. That's true, 335 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 4: Like he doesn't like he what is he the best? 336 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: That is he the best wrestler. He's a very good wrestler. 337 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: He's maybe not the best. He's certainly not the best striker. 338 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: He's not the best submission guy. You know, there's guys 339 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: who have more developed skills than him. But his level 340 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: of accomplishment is I don't think really debatable. But getting 341 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 4: back to the point, PC, the guy chased greatness and 342 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: and I think for the most part, PC found it. 343 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 4: For the most part, he did find greatness. He just 344 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: wanted to go to a level that had truly never 345 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: been gone to before, not successfully, and that's a really 346 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: difficult thing to do. I'm also going to say this PC, 347 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: this is not necessarily the case with Volt versus Lopez, 348 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: although I take Lopez as a dangerous threat. You know, 349 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: he could still very much win that one given that 350 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 4: folks older and chinny now right. But in general, what 351 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 4: I want to say was, this is why rematches are 352 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: important for long title reigns, Like giving these fighters another crack, 353 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 4: another world class guy another crack at you, particularly years later. 354 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: I hope everyone can appreciate that's a daunting task. And 355 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 4: you know, for a guy like Saint Pierre to fight 356 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: Pen twice, cost Check twice, you know, he really went 357 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 4: out there and gave a lot of these you know, 358 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: elite guys an opportunity to get like another run at him, 359 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: and he was still able to defeat basically all of them. 360 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: It's important in a guy's title reign that he get 361 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: newcomers as well as other standouts who get to retool 362 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: and give it another go, because you just never know 363 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 4: what's going to happen in the sport. Rematches under the 364 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: right circumstances are very important. 365 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, just the final thing I want to say is 366 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: in my interview, it was kind of glazing Morab, like 367 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: playing up the histories, making the fact that he's kind 368 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 3: of already been called the bandam weight goad. You know, 369 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: if he keeps up that streak of consecutive wins, he 370 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: could break the record. And it was weird. He was 371 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: almost interrupting me to be like hold on, brother, Like 372 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: I'm just human, you know what I mean. I just 373 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: work hard, you know. So I don't know that was 374 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: I just got these weird feelings during the interview. But 375 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: shout out to Jan the way he pulled it out. 376 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: Let's hear from pyotr Yan on a just a beautiful 377 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: comeback victory to ascend the throne of one of the 378 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: sports best divisions. 379 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, the media watching shoe box mi Boroza. 380 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 9: Yahbal you know, not exactly, but it was more of 381 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 9: like I I streamedlined myself to the belt really quick. 382 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 6: You know. 383 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 9: I kind of thought that I already knew everything, I 384 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 9: got all the skills for everything, you know, and and 385 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 9: and I underestimated how much goes into this championship mentality 386 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 9: in the preparation to be a champ. 387 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 8: Yes, now, ALASHIPKEI made a GIMMI by s Nach to 388 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 8: get the Minkaman Robote. 389 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 9: I know which mistakes I allowed myself to make before 390 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 9: that first fight, and I know that the big thing 391 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 9: that was missing was teamwork. And this is something that 392 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 9: we fixed. We are now a team. 393 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: You look, you can argue looking back on the losses 394 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: he suffered at the highest level that like maybe one 395 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 3: was clean and clear. So what do you believe this comeback, 396 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: the way that he's raised his game at age thirty 397 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: two here, what does it say about his potential upside 398 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: moving forward? 399 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: Well, what's kind of interesting to me, And I think 400 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 4: this is something I've not seen discussed enough, which is 401 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: in many ways, the way he rushed to the title 402 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: so quickly ended up causing him to not be able 403 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 4: to hold on to it. On the other hand, the 404 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: fact that he lost it so early into his athletic 405 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: prime despite having as we've talked about, the three subsequent 406 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: losses back to back to back, it actually enabled him 407 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: during his prime to reconstitute himself and then reclaim the belt. 408 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: Towards the end of his prime. He's thirty two BC. 409 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be thirty three. I think 410 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 4: around February. I could be wrong. You can double check that. 411 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 6: Hold on. 412 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 4: I goud steeze. Excuse me, yeah, thank you. But it 413 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: actually is kind of interesting. Most people, they you know, 414 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: a lot of guys, they don't get the title until 415 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 4: they're almost in the middle or the end of their prime, 416 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 4: or least some title opportunities. But because he got it 417 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: so early, he was able to reconstitute himself and then 418 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: recapture it still within the late end anyway of the 419 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: prime version of himself. That unusual early detour BC, and 420 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: with the right changes in his teamwork, the right changes 421 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: in his game, leveling up all the other things that 422 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: go into it, but being able to channel that back 423 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 4: enable him to have success on this back end. Again, 424 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: everything about this is unusual. He's not supposed to be 425 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: in this position. But by the virtue of all of 426 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 4: the many things that have happened to him and his 427 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 4: considerable talent, here he is bucking the trend you're asking 428 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: about where he goes upside. He's still got some good 429 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: time left. Do you favor him against Umar. Do you 430 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: favor him against Morob and a rematch? These are really 431 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 4: difficult fights. It's going to be hard for either of 432 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: those guys to win, and any of the three, but 433 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: he is going to make it tough for any of 434 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: them and I can't wait to see. Yeah. 435 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: Before we get into what's next, I also need to 436 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: mentioning that he learned the lesson that a lot of 437 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: people learn against Morob, that that Cardio is just a 438 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: different beast inside the Devalishvili. So if you want to 439 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 3: contend with him, right, I always make that comparison back 440 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: to Stepe, who lost that very competitive five round main 441 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: event against Junior Dosatos, part impartially because he had to 442 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: learn in that moment what five yar on cardio really was. 443 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 3: Emboided Stepe turn that around for the future of his career. 444 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: You gotta give you on a ton of credit for 445 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: the cardio he had in this rematch to be able 446 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: to keep it up at that level, especially in the 447 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: championship rounds, when normally Morob just turns it up to 448 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: another gear and just overwhelms. You look like taking away 449 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: from the grind of Morob doing four camps the way 450 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: cut all of that, I think you can take it 451 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: away because Yan raised his game so much that even 452 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: if Morob was seventy five percent of himself, if that's true, 453 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: that seventy five percent could still win on most nights 454 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: against almost anybody in the world. But Yan knew what 455 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: he was up against. He retooled, so on the flip side, Luke, 456 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: I did want to sneak this question in. You always 457 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: talk about when someone's on top for a long time 458 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: that the tape study just gets build up and up 459 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: and up. And yes, we kind of fell into that 460 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 3: same groove when someone's so dominant for so long, where 461 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: we both kind of said it heading into this fight 462 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: that like, until Morob, until he doesn't, I'm gonna believe 463 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: in him and I'm gonna pick him. How much of 464 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: this victory do you think was the idea that, for 465 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: as great as Morob is, and he raised up his 466 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: striking in recent fights, he's become a legitimate top three 467 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: pound for pound fighter coming into this fight, how much 468 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 3: was it that, like all of those things that made 469 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: him great, you give the opponents enough time to study 470 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 3: it and figure it out that in some cases his 471 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: style was almost solved by Yon in this performance. 472 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 4: There's there's no question in my mind, and this is 473 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 4: the most important I want to say something too, because 474 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: as Morob has gotten hotter and hotter and hotter. Obviously 475 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: it came to a conclusion on Saturday, but during this long, 476 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: incredible run he's been on where he's basically defeating every 477 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 4: style with what can be described as labor. I mean, 478 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: you know, he obviously nearly knocked out San Hagan, he 479 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: submitted Shawn O'Malley, but in general we kind of know 480 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 4: what the score is. So I've been doing a lot 481 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 4: of thinking like what kind of style beats Morob? You know, 482 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 4: what do you have to have? And one of the 483 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: things I've been thinking about was that, you know, I 484 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: don't know how much sense it makes to try and 485 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: out labor the guy. And you know, yes, you want 486 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: to fight takedowns, but not super hard, Like what you 487 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: want to do is be able to to a time 488 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: super hard. But in general, what you want to be 489 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: able to do is just score maximum damage, right because 490 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 4: otherwise he's just going to be able to keep working. 491 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: And to me, what is so impressive about what Yan 492 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: did was Yan actually was like, no, that's actually not 493 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: the game plan. The game plan is we're gonna out 494 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: wrestle him first and then we're gonna worry about the 495 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 4: damage that comes later. And there were some other adjustments 496 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: that he made. I don't know if anyone picked up 497 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: on this. He got his legs battered by Morob in 498 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 4: the first fight. Morob tried it this time and he 499 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: checked him early, and Rob never really went back to it. 500 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 4: Like that is an important adjustment, and it leads me 501 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: to say the following, Not only did he show what 502 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: you actually have to have, which is, you know, other 503 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: worldly level of wrestling, but it doesn't start with damage first, 504 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 4: and don't worry about the wrestling. It's worry about the 505 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: wrestling and then let the damage take care of itself. 506 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: And more to the point, I think that they kind 507 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 4: of knew what his offensive system is. B See, he's 508 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 4: got head inside singles, head outside, singles, doubles, different setups 509 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 4: for all three and against the fence. He has different 510 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 4: ways in which he goes to try and trip out 511 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 4: Cosota hooks, all different with things he uses. He has 512 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 4: some kind of judo throws as well. He's got a 513 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: Nucci mata, things like that. They had him dead to rights. 514 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 4: They figured out all of the places that you need 515 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: to stop or reverse it to utterly kill it in 516 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 4: the process, and it had a pronounced effect on the 517 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: whole thing. I mean understand. You know forty nine takedown 518 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 4: takedowns attempted in their first fight. He only got eleven 519 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 4: of them, which I know eleven is a lot, obviously, 520 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: but relative to forty nine is not very high. Yan 521 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: did a really good job the first time, but to 522 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: reduce him to two and not just reduce him to two, BC, 523 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 4: he didn't get off nearly as many attempts either. They 524 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 4: knew what his offensive system was. And by the way, 525 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: I haven't mentioned how this goes to the front headlock. 526 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: He couldn't make effective use of the front headlock in 527 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: this fight. He got two cradles in the first fight. 528 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 4: They figured him out. And to your point BC about 529 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 4: looking at the tape, they clearly clearly game planned around 530 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: the specific sinne that Mirob puts you in. Work those out, 531 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: and I thought he did a brilliant job. 532 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought there were two significant moments where 533 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 3: Yon really planted the flag to say this will not 534 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: look like the first fight. The first one was in 535 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: round one when he landed that huge I think it 536 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: was a counter left hand that you know, visibly stung 537 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: Morob and showed him that like if you're just gonna 538 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 3: spam me, like you're gonna pay for it. And then 539 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 3: obviously the second one was round three when he picked 540 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: him up and slammed him on his damn head. Luke 541 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: never never would have guessed that in that moment, I 542 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: felt like had a profound shift and like this is 543 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: Yan's night. From that moment for it, it really felt 544 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: like this was going to be Yon's It. 545 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 4: It takes the right positioning, it takes a little moxy, 546 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: but it's also them understanding position If I'm going for 547 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: a guillotine on UBC, what is protecting me from getting slammed? 548 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: I mean could be positioned if I'm putting enough stress 549 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: on your low back or something like that. But my 550 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 4: hands are occupied. So if your hands are occupied and 551 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: you're in a good enough position to be able to 552 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: get to an angle to do it, dude, give him 553 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 4: frequent flyer miles And that's exactly what he did. He 554 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 4: had no way to brace himself, so he went crashing first, 555 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 4: a face first into the mat. Just just amazing. Situational 556 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: awareness because they knew to plan for that front headlock series. 557 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: Now, I did feel bad watching the the clip that 558 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: was posted online after Morob like in tears apologizing to 559 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: his family and his country. I mean, he's been such 560 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: a decorated champion. He's got a hilarious personality. I know, 561 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: the pride he has for Georgia and all of that. 562 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: So I certainly felt bad. Here's Morob and the ambulance afterwards, 563 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: though with his buddy al Joe, where they felt like 564 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: they were lightning the mood. 565 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 10: I am in the hospital with my brother Al Jeb 566 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 10: and then my brother Dram. I'm on the phone with 567 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 10: my mother. 568 00:28:53,200 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: Hi, I guess And that's. 569 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 10: A don't like. 570 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: All right, A lot of a lot of Georgian in 571 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 4: that one. But there was a caption too being like, 572 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: you know, I'm thanks for everyone for their support and 573 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: I'll be back there. 574 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: And by the way, Morob did go to the post 575 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: fight party at the club. He did go back with 576 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: Nina Drama to eat all those donuts. I don't know 577 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: if anyone saw that video as well. So Morob took 578 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: it in stride as he always does. Luke, let's close 579 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: the discussion by talking about what should be next. Morob 580 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 3: used his time in the post fight interview with Joe 581 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 3: Rogan to push for the idea of an immediate trilogy. 582 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: Should that be the direction UFC goes or should they 583 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: tell him to take some time off. Told me this 584 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: week that he's got some trip planned where he's gonna 585 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: go train with Zuck, you know, and but he wanted 586 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: to come back in March no matter what I mean. Look, 587 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: it's hard to deny a guy that's won fourteen in 588 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: a row and we were calling in the bantam weight 589 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: go But I really want to see Umar if he 590 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: gets by Davis and Figaredo in the next couple months 591 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: against Piotrian, That's a fight we almost saw leading up 592 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: to this, I would love to see that. What do 593 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: you want next? What will happen next? 594 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: So the issue is we've got next month, We've got 595 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: basically two bantamweight fights that might have a claim on 596 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 4: the title. Now that's a little crazy to say, BC, 597 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: because actually don't think that we have two bantamweight fights 598 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 4: to have a claim on the title, but I have 599 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: to admit that we probably will. Here's what I mean. First, 600 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 4: you've got Umar versus Figgy. Now, what's interesting about that 601 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 4: FIVEBC is it's on the prelims, which kind of tells 602 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: you what they think about Umar a little bit here. 603 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 4: Maybe that's the first one, but if Umar wins BC, 604 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: I think he's got a decent case for a fresh 605 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: title shot. That's one. Then you have the other one, 606 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: which is much more interesting to me, which is Sean O'Malley, 607 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: at least as a weird attraction, Sean O'Malley versus Song 608 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: You Dong? Great fight. What I mean is, b see, 609 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 4: can we really sit here and say that if Sean 610 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: O'Malley and I'm Gonna make something up knocks out Sean 611 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: Song you Dong, They're he's not in the picture for 612 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 4: a title. I'm not saying that he should be. I'm 613 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: not saying I think, oh that's the best argument. I'm 614 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: saying just look how they're booking title fights. 615 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: Look to be fair, They're booking fights to make stars, 616 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: which is kind of what we asked of them to 617 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 3: do in this new era, right sort of. 618 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you can do the Strikeforce thing a little 619 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 4: bit where you give guy. The people misunderstand the Strikeforce model. 620 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: The Strikeforce model is as follows if there is a 621 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: really deserving contender, they didn't really fuck with him too much. 622 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: But what they did was they gave them gimmes in between, right, 623 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 4: they give him a deserving guy, two deserving guys, and 624 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 4: then the third one would be like, you know, just 625 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: a walk in the park. And it wasn't just for champions, 626 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 4: it was for anyone with a big name. They would 627 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: give them tune up fights all the time, and this 628 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: did wonders for them. It was an important thing. Pride 629 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: did something similar. People look at Fador's resume there like, Okay, 630 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: I know this guy, I know that guy. Who the 631 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: fuck is this guy? This was done on purpose and 632 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 4: also important to satisfy the Japanese market, But you know, 633 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: that can be a thing that's different than you know, 634 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: we've got like massively deserving contenders, which I'll get come 635 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: back to a bantamait in a second. We're just going 636 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: to ignore that. We're gonna give guys title shots off 637 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 4: of one win, you know. I mean again, Strike Force 638 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 4: might have done a little bit like that, but this 639 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 4: feels a little more heavy handed. It's more about giving 640 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: guys gimmes in between hard fights rather than just ignoring 641 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 4: the hard fight altogether. What I want to make though, 642 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 4: is BC, Okay, you got O'Malley, maybe, Umar, maybe, but 643 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: Morob is the consensus. I think best bantam weight. 644 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: Too, so Hobby, Aman's and Hobbies in this discussion. 645 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: Correct, he's on the outside, but I don't think he's 646 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: too far from it fair enough. But Mara, you know, 647 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: if you're gonna give anyone a title rematch or I 648 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 4: should say, a trilogy, in this case, it would be 649 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: someone like Marab. But here's why I'm gonna say this 650 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 4: is a little different. In addition to mention the other 651 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: two names, BC, what you also have here is a 652 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 4: case where it was not a close fight and it's 653 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: already their second one. Like there's there's no controversy about 654 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: this one. The guy just fucking lost. What I think 655 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 4: they should do BC is give one of the two 656 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: winners from UFC three twenty four a shot against Yon. 657 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 4: Morob gets the winner of that. 658 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: How about Morob's a hobby and Umar if he wins, 659 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: gets Yan. 660 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: I don't get a lot, I don't hate it. I 661 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 4: don't have a ton of interest in marj. 662 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 3: It'd be hard for me to get fired up about. 663 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: Look I'm not saying I'm supporting sort of the shameless 664 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: matchmaking style that they're already employing for next year. I'm 665 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: a CBS paramount guy. I want them to use this 666 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: new non pay per view platform to build stars. Believe me, 667 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: I'm not supporting all the choices. I don't like Diego 668 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 3: Lopez in the spot on you know, again and again. 669 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: But for O'Malley to go from two dominant losses against 670 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 3: the champion. 671 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 4: I get I He's not my choice. If Umar wins, 672 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 4: it should be Umar. 673 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're setting up a scenario where he would knock 674 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: out song You Dong, And I'm not saying that's not 675 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: worth nothing, but yeah, I wouldn't love that. I'm also 676 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: an Umar guy. I'm just gonna say, like, I believe 677 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: this guy is championship ready right now. I believe you 678 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: could plug him into the title fight right now. Is 679 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: a little Were you not surprised that they put put 680 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: Umar in another fight? I thought he was gonna fight 681 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: the winner of this fight regardless. 682 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: Bautista's hard to look good against. So for that reason, 683 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 4: I'm not like utterly shocked, but they're definitely they're making 684 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 4: them take a little bit of a longer road, right, 685 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 4: I think that's fair to say. 686 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: All right, all right, we'll see how they roll that out. 687 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 3: But congratulations to Pyotr Yan A no we. 688 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 4: Got we gotta get a long Like. How distraught were you? 689 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 11: Oh? 690 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 691 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 4: As each round? First round I thought was pretty competitive obviously, 692 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 4: but after that, brother, the fight was gone. 693 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 5: It's crazy how the fight was scored, because even after 694 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 5: round one, I was like, damn, man, I kind of 695 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 5: think Yan won that round. It was close, but I 696 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 5: actually gave it to Yan, And then obviously the next 697 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 5: four were very clearly on so I thought it was 698 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 5: five to nothing. 699 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 7: Yon. 700 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 5: I didn't even when I heard forty eight forty seven, 701 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 5: I was like, oh shit, are we going to get 702 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 5: some corrupt score in here? 703 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 6: What do we got? 704 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know what DC was on thinking that 705 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 3: Morob was up to. 706 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 4: Two nil one complaining about DC's commentary, and I was 707 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 4: doing the watch a lot. It's hard for me to 708 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 4: pay attention to it. What was so bad about it? 709 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: He just was kind of matter of fact that it 710 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 3: should be two nothing Morobs. So whenever they were putting 711 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 3: the journalist tweets up of people saying like to nothing, Yon, 712 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 3: he was just like that's crazy. Whereas there's a really 713 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 3: strong argument for round one to be a yan round. 714 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 3: It could go either way. I didn't think round two 715 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: was all that close. No, but yeah, the other thing 716 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to say is too many voices in Morob's corner. 717 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: Easy to point out that he lost, but three different 718 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 3: voices competing with each other in Rob's corner in between 719 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: each op. 720 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot, a lot. 721 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: All right, let's go into topic number two, which was 722 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: Saturday's co main event. Yeah, we didn't learn that much 723 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 3: in the end, as Joshua Van, looking to become the 724 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 3: second youngest champion in UFC history behind John Jones, accomplished 725 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 3: the feat but not in the way that we would 726 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: have hoped or wanted here in a round one TKO 727 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 3: win via injury, as after exchanging a very high pace 728 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: exchange for both fighters in that first minute, you had 729 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: a very unusual ending as Champion Alexandro Pantosa reached out 730 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 3: his arm to catch himself on the fall and injured 731 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: his elbow his shoulder. There was a little bit of 732 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: debate to that just thirty seconds into the fight, resulting 733 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 3: in a title change. Very reminiscent, by the way, Luke 734 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: when you and I were cage sided for Bellator NYC 735 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: and Michael Chandler lost his title to Brent Primis on 736 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: that injured foot where you're just like, why do the 737 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 3: rules mean that the title has to change hands? On there? 738 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 4: Just my editorium, I can tell you the answer. There's 739 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: actually a very good reason for it. Why shouldn't it understand? 740 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 4: He threw a head kick to Josh Van who caught it, 741 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 4: and then he tries to escape and Van actually kind 742 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: of releases him and on the landing he whatever whatever 743 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 4: happened there, he had the he had the injury. That's fighting. 744 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 4: Nobody fouled him. Sometimes you do a spinning kick and 745 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 4: you twist your ankle. Sometimes you get your jaw broken 746 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: by you know, uh, you ran into his hip, you know, 747 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: or some kind some kind of weird medical event. An 748 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 4: injury happens just in the course of fighting itself, independent 749 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 4: of someone that you know, landing a knockout blow. That's 750 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 4: part of fighting. The part where it becomes an issue 751 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 4: is if it's from a foul. That's when you bring 752 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 4: in the doctor. When you cast time, you're kicked in 753 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: the balls, you get raked in the eyes, break you 754 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 4: know whatever, the arm elbows, whatever, that's that's just fighting, 755 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 4: that's regular fights. 756 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 3: I feel like I know why it could. You wouldn't 757 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 3: change the rule because then people could potentially, you know, 758 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: fake injuries and try to get out of fights in 759 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 3: which they're losing. I just wish, you know, how boxing 760 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 3: has that rule pertaining to fouls where if a foul 761 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 3: happens before the first four rounds are completed, in an 762 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 3: accidental fall, the fight would go to it. It wouldn't 763 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 3: go to the scorecards, it would be a no contest. 764 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: I almost wish there was some sort of whether it's 765 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 3: a half round or a full first round, where if 766 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: one of those you know, mysterious injuries happened, where you 767 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 3: can cause an injury. I get that. I think we 768 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: can all agree this was just bad luck either way. 769 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: Joshuavan is the new champion, and he celebrated like one, 770 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 3: So Luke, while there's very little to glean or take 771 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 3: away from the situation because we just had twenty to 772 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 3: thirty seconds of some fun exchanges. Are we allowed to 773 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: say at age thirty five that Pantosia might never be 774 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 3: the same after an injury like this? And for all 775 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: we know may not get back to the title level. 776 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: I hate even asking you that because I'd almost wish 777 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: they pressed pause in the division until he was healthy, 778 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 3: because this is such bad luck. But it is what 779 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: it is. 780 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 4: Luke I, I think he'd probably be a little premature 781 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 4: to be like, oh, he'll never get back, especially if 782 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: it's a dislocation. Now, even with a dislocation, a break 783 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 4: can occur, or a tear of a ligament, some kind 784 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 4: of connective tissue can happen as well. If that's the case, 785 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 4: then BC and then we've got some real quality of 786 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 4: movement issues that are going to have an impact. If 787 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 4: it's just a dislocation and there's no surgical intervention that's 788 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: really required. I'm not saying that's a great injury, but 789 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 4: that by itself BC should not be disqualifying as a 790 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 4: way to consider him not really eligible for a rematch 791 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 4: or whatever, but to win to be competitive. Would that 792 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 4: would not tell me that? But there's obviously these other factors. 793 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 11: B C. 794 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 4: One is does he heal it properly? Does he come 795 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 4: back too quickly? Does he try to like reassert himself 796 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 4: because he doesn't want Van out there with the title 797 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 4: parading like he's somebody that in his view, probably is 798 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 4: not there. There are ways in which that, even if 799 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 4: the injury itself is not so severe, accompanying factors after 800 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 4: the fact can make it difficult for him to ever 801 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 4: regain full function. I would just say, from what we 802 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 4: know so far, which is a big caveat, but from 803 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 4: what we know so far, I've not seen anything that 804 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 4: tells me he can't get back there. But BC, this 805 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 4: is the other part of the conversation, which is the 806 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 4: guy's thirty five. I don't think he's too far from 807 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 4: being thirty six. You know, the lighter you go, that 808 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 4: becomes more and more of a death sentence. Is is 809 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 4: it possible that this is an injury that is a 810 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 4: function of the fact that he's not twenty five, then 811 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 4: the he is thirty five, and then he's put his 812 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 4: body through hell over the years to pursue this occupation. 813 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 4: That is something that I kind of worry about, Like, 814 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 4: is this by itself be see a disqualifying medical event? 815 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: Maybe not. However, does it underline and highlight the fact 816 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 4: that this guy is aging in front of us, and 817 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 4: that even if he does have some glory days in 818 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 4: front of him, that window is closing rapidly. I kind 819 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: of wonder about that a little bit. 820 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I do too. It reminds me. You 821 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 3: know a friend of the program, Rashad Evans So I 822 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 3: used to do a podcast with and we would go 823 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 3: back and do story time over his career. I always 824 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: bring up Luke. I think you remember this when Rashad 825 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: after losing the title losing to John Jones, came back 826 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 3: in that comeback win over Chill Sanna, neeing him to 827 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 3: the stomach and finishing him. He looked like he was 828 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 3: ready to be champion again, like he had completely retooled, 829 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 3: and then he suffered the type of injury that he 830 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 3: was never the same from again. You just hope for 831 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: Pintosia that doesn't happen, considering the run he had been 832 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: on the fact that in the past two years he 833 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 3: had completely turned his legacy reputation around by improving his 834 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: game so much. But you can't control these things. They 835 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 3: are what they are. Before we get into this whole 836 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 3: hullaboo over Van celebration, did you see that tweet from 837 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 3: Dominick Cruz who said that fighters should be allowed to 838 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 3: continue even if their limbs are hanging off I mean, 839 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 3: this is the same great decorated champion who, by the way, 840 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 3: I love I love his arkiness, you know all that 841 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 3: who said like he should be allowed to fight to 842 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: the death in the cage. He said, someone's gonna die 843 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 3: in MMA, eventually, we should be allowed to do that. 844 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 3: He also thinks Keith Peterson smells like cold cuts and 845 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 3: cheap women. What do you make of that statement he 846 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 3: put up here? 847 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is why it's regulated by the government. 848 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 4: You know, fighters deserve to have a very very important 849 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 4: contribution to I think all of the rules, to the 850 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 4: way in which they are governed by them, how they're paid, 851 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 4: like their perspective here very much matters. But they're not 852 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 4: the final arbiters of anything. Neither are we. But they're not, 853 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 4: And this is why they're not. I cannot tell you 854 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 4: how many fighters I know who I've talked to who 855 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 4: have told me stuff, mostly off the record, but not always, 856 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 4: about some kind of medical risk that they're willing to endure, 857 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 4: either to train for a fight or to even compete 858 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 4: during it, or surgical intervention to allow them to compete 859 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 4: in some kind of hobbled state. I mean, I've literally 860 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 4: had guys talked about having their fingers removed. I mean, 861 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 4: just you can't imagine. This is why they can. This 862 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 4: is why it's regulated by the government, because, in addition 863 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 4: to they're being unscrupulous promoters, there are fighters who will 864 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: absorb and accept and engage with a level of risk 865 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 4: that is simply untenable. If this is going to be 866 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 4: a practice that we allow to happen in society, there 867 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 4: have to be very clear rules. If you have an 868 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 4: orthopedic injury in the middle of the fight, BC, the 869 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 4: fight is fucking over. It's over, by the way. 870 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, credit to Dom Cruz's new podcast. 871 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 3: I thought the one he did with TJ. Dillashaw where 872 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 3: they talked about the injury against al Jioe with the 873 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 3: shoulder like that was very good content. Check that out. 874 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 3: And if Cruse thinks Peterson smells like that, he should 875 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 3: meet Jed Mshu. I mean, we've done plenty of pregames 876 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 3: with that guy. Yeah. 877 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 4: Wow, all right, Dog Mad Dog fifty to fifty butt sweat. 878 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Indeed, First, let's get an injuried update from the 879 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 3: former champ Pantosia if you can Long Island Luke. 880 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 10: Hello, guys, uh that's what happened, you know, accidents. Uh, 881 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 10: when it goes today, you have see today, I think 882 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 10: I have my best ship on my life. 883 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 2: Uh. 884 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 10: When I see Joshava out the other side of the octahn, 885 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 10: I believe I can finish him in the first round. 886 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 10: That's what I try to do best camp on my life, 887 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 10: bast cat wait, best everything. 888 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 7: You know. 889 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 10: I feel so comfortable in the actor. That's my my acta, 890 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,479 Speaker 10: that's my belt. That's everything I did in my life 891 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 10: and my whole life to that moment, you know. And uh, hell, 892 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 10: just Joshva just came in win this belt. I talk 893 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 10: with my wife about that, like it's not just about 894 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 10: myself today. It's about Joshuva, you know, Joshava that's his 895 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 10: destiny to win this belt tonight. And he just can 896 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 10: win this belt with my injury today, you know. And Uh, I. 897 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 6: Talk to God. 898 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 10: God give him the message. And I really believe in 899 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 10: God and all the message. I pray a lot, and Uh, 900 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 10: I'm gonna work very hard. I'll work out very hot 901 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 10: all my life and I'm gonna work again and I'm 902 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 10: gonna take my belt again. 903 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 7: You know. 904 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 10: I reappreciate all the message everybody know about myself. Everybolt 905 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 10: in the sand. I very respectful guy. I respect first 906 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 10: my family then everything. You know, I'm never gonna say 907 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 10: bullshit about anyone. I just want to work very hard 908 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 10: and bring my belt to my home again. You know, 909 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 10: I appreciate everybody. Tomorrow, fly back to home Monday. I'm 910 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,959 Speaker 10: starting to follow my dream again. Thank you so much. 911 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 3: Dude. That's heartbreaking. I stand for pants as mess, you 912 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 3: would say, Luke. People think I don't wear them during 913 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 3: strawweight fights. They're wrong. But seriously, the the way that 914 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 3: guy carries himself a lot of love respect. So by 915 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 3: the way, on the flip side, as much as I 916 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 3: don't love seeing him lose his title under these circumstances, 917 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 3: I don't love seeing Van win the title under these circumstances. 918 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 3: Even though it's not his fault to become the second 919 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 3: youngest champion. He celebrated like none of it mattered. A 920 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 3: lot of people took on Bridge. We made sort of 921 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 3: a fun al Joe Sterling joke, but Van he don't 922 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 3: care about the haters. In fact, he was so absolute 923 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 3: about it. We dialed them for murder. We called up 924 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 3: our friends over there at Quervo for a little bit 925 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: of shots fired, folks. Core Shots Fired is brought to 926 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 3: you by Cuervo, and now's a good time to enjoy 927 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 3: the tequila that invented tequila. Here is Josh Van reacting 928 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 3: to sort of the negative reaction to how happy and 929 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 3: aggressively he celebrated this breakthrough moment Planner's champion. 930 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 10: I want to be the yeah active champion for sure, 931 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 10: but I'm taking this month off, a month. 932 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 11: Off, And I guess last thing for me would be, 933 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 11: you know, what would you say to somebody says I 934 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 11: can't count that guy as a real champion, that that 935 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 11: fight didn't really play out? 936 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 4: Like, what what would you say to him? 937 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 5: The Yeah, if you do good, they would touch it, 938 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 5: and if you do bad they would talk it. 939 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 6: So do would make you happy? 940 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 941 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 6: So it don't mettle what they think? 942 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 3: Man, I want looke in intumation, Fuck them, bro, Yeah 943 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 3: inflormation Me paylo taz astana kid. I mean, is there 944 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 3: any uh is there any villain validity? 945 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 6: Uh? 946 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 3: Me go to people criticizing him jumping on the cage, 947 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 3: you know, doing all that whole beef, that whole. 948 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 4: Look obviously it's going to look weird to the fans 949 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 4: at home who were robbed of a great fight, who 950 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 4: were probably very you know, hey, people who paid for 951 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 4: pay per view b see, it might have been the 952 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 4: last one. I know there was some pirates, but there's 953 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 4: a lot of people who paid I'm sure as well. 954 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 4: And it was like, you know, this is fucking annoying 955 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 4: for that to happen, and then for a guy to 956 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 4: go there and like, you know, he's pounding his chest 957 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 4: like a gorilla and he did something. You know, I 958 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 4: understand that this is going to piss people off. I 959 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 4: sort of get it. At the same time, the guy's 960 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 4: life has been nothing but a very difficult struggle, and 961 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 4: it changed in the last year, culminating in this magic 962 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 4: moment that probably to him feels like DESTINYBC. If you 963 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 4: put yourself in his shoes, like he just must feel 964 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 4: like he's on top of the world. Let him have 965 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 4: some celebration. He'll have to fight someone to keep it. 966 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 4: We'll worry about it then, you know. 967 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, we've got Dana White talking about what will 968 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 3: be next for this title given everything that happened. Let's 969 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: listen to the CEO the. 970 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 4: Tuesday answer as well. 971 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 11: But I mean, given the way that thing played out, 972 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 11: if he's okay, do you run that one back right away? 973 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 4: Do you see what he's doing? 974 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 3: I don't think he's no matter what happens. 975 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 12: Listen, I'm no fucking doctor or anything, but I don't 976 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 12: see him coming back anytime soon. I think that there 977 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 12: would be a defense before he comes back. I think 978 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 12: he's gonna need some time, you know, the healing process, 979 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 12: and sometimes for most of the time. I would say, 980 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 12: ligaments are worse than a break, so he's got to 981 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 12: come back from that, and then how long until he 982 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 12: starts striking again and stuff like that. So yeah, they'll 983 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 12: probably be a defense before Lassie. 984 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 3: Well, look, it's gonna take time for people to really 985 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 3: see Van as the champion. Although one more thing on that, 986 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 3: I will say Van talks so much coming into this 987 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 3: fight about this what his success will mean to his 988 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: a country of me and mar that it would put 989 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 3: it on the map in people's minds, and that's not 990 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 3: a country that we talk about regularly, especially not a 991 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 3: mixed martial arts So I definitely agree with Van's posture 992 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 3: from the standpoint of what he's saying that the criticism 993 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 3: is gonna be there no matter what. So let me 994 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: do me and enjoy my moment. But I'll also say 995 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 3: this is a big ass moment for him, his extended family, 996 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 3: his culture, his country. So I know he came to 997 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 3: the US as a teenager, grew up in Houston, but 998 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 3: that means a lot in that regard, and I'll give 999 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 3: him that. 1000 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 4: So also, also, don't forget, don't forget Burmese Python on 1001 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 4: the end, saying the guy out of extreme couture. Yeah, 1002 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 4: I've met I've met him a couple of times. Real 1003 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 4: nice dude. He he comes from, he calls himself the 1004 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 4: Burmese Python, but you know from me and more so, 1005 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 4: that little country has still got some you know, he's 1006 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 4: got some heavy hitters for sure. 1007 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, me and mar What was I saying? I 1008 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 3: don't know anyway, it doesn't matter, uh, Luke. In terms 1009 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 3: of what's next, You've got the newcomer, the old comer, 1010 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 3: he's coming, Luke, Kyogi Horrigucci. You've got Tatsura Taira who 1011 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 3: had a breakthrough stoppage win over Brandon Moreno, you've got 1012 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 3: the Menel cop versus Brandon roy Vall contender fight next weekend. 1013 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 3: Who would you like to see next. For Joshua Van, I. 1014 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 4: Mean, in in theory a rematch, right, I mean, that 1015 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 4: seems like the most important one, but obviously that is 1016 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 4: going to be medically very difficult, uh perhaps improbable to 1017 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 4: pull off. I don't have a better answer than the 1018 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 4: winner of this week's main event. I don't know what 1019 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 4: the I don't know what it would be. No one's 1020 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 4: moving around, there's not I mean, especially if menel Cop wins, 1021 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 4: like that's kind of a I mean, the Royval fight 1022 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 4: was cool be see, but I don't I don't need 1023 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 4: to see it run back right away. What do you 1024 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 4: make for. 1025 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 3: Joe Rogan basically editorializing during the interview and saying that 1026 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,760 Speaker 3: Tyra could be should be next. 1027 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 4: So that's an interesting one too, b C. Because he 1028 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 4: looked also, I know we're gonna talk a little bit 1029 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 4: more about that in the next topic. 1030 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 3: But I. 1031 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 4: Don't know. I don't know. I mean, Long Island, where 1032 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 4: are you on this one? To me, it seems a 1033 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 4: little rush to put Tyra in there, especially when Jra 1034 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 4: Gucci let's. 1035 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 3: Go good, Let's go good, go Gucci. 1036 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 5: I'm not high on Tyra either, just because he just 1037 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 5: lost to Roy Vaut and I feel like pantos is 1038 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 5: probably out at least six months, and because Van is 1039 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 5: so active, just got him in there. 1040 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 4: In three months against Horror Gucci. 1041 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 5: Also, don't you think it's ironic, Horg Gucci called out 1042 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 5: Pantosia and then Pantosa ends up losing. He should have 1043 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 5: just called out Josh Van the whole time, didn't even 1044 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,240 Speaker 5: need to teammate. 1045 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, long, how about this? Yeah, remember Dana White said 1046 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 4: at the Postfi Pressor they were considering taking a show 1047 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 4: to Japan? Could you do gouc Tyra? Winner of that 1048 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 4: gets it? You know, depending if they can make that 1049 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 4: in short order. 1050 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 3: You know, I do think if Cop thoroughly beats roy Vall, 1051 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 3: then that could change the discussion because he's been on 1052 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 3: a run. You got to give Cop that credit. Cop 1053 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 3: Killer iced Tea. What was the name of that band 1054 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 3: that I see you? 1055 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 4: Body count? 1056 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 3: Body Count? And also, do you notice how long on 1057 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 3: Luke's like, I'm not high on Tyra? Dude, high as 1058 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 3: shit right now? 1059 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 4: In general? 1060 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 3: Okay, let's give him that, No, Luke, Lukeseda guy? 1061 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 4: All right? 1062 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 2: Luke. 1063 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 3: So to close on this topic, by the way, two 1064 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 3: decorated top five pound four pound champions getting their titles 1065 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 3: flipped upside down, which makes an interesting scenari for the UFC. 1066 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 3: Balanc Gonna Shochenko on her second reign at Flyway with 1067 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 3: two defenses on the second reign is the longest reigning 1068 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 3: UFC champion at the moment. Here's a graphic of some 1069 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 3: of that turnover. Uh. In one way, you expect it 1070 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 3: because the sport's crazy. But in another way, Luke, it's 1071 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 3: weird to see all the old guard just chopped down 1072 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 3: one by one. 1073 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 7: Man. 1074 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 4: I mean, there's some of these you could have seen coming. 1075 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 4: You probably didn't think the Wall was going to end 1076 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 4: the year as champion, know, but the Yon one just 1077 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 4: didn't see coming. I mean, uh, I don't know. There's 1078 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 4: just a bunch of these. You're like, wow, this is 1079 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 4: uh here. I mean, you're here one day, gone the 1080 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 4: next brother, it is. 1081 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Caerra regained the title to his credit, and 1082 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 3: both to Poria and Mahachev moved up so they won 1083 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 3: titles new weight divisions. But you know, I didn't necessarily 1084 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 3: see a lot of this happening. By the way, Chimayav 1085 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 3: is now saying he's gonna fight one more at middleweight 1086 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 3: than he's going up to two five, so it could continue, 1087 00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 3: Luke for all. 1088 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, which means Poton's going to go to heavyweight. You 1089 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 1090 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 3: It's a rotating door, all right. Before we get into 1091 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 3: the rest of the UFC three twenty three undercard, it's 1092 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 3: history lesson time. Professor Campbell's here to tell you that 1093 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 3: now's a good time to remember what where Tequila's story 1094 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 3: truly began, because in seventeen ninety five, Quervo invented tequila. 1095 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 3: And since then, all Quervo has been doing is staying 1096 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 3: true to their roots. We're talking about the same family, 1097 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 3: the same land. Yes, that same passion. Two hundred and 1098 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 3: thirty years later, Can you believe it? Quervo is still 1099 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 3: right here and every pore in every margarita, in every celebration, 1100 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 3: in every pregame preview on MK So enjoy the tequila 1101 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 3: that started at all Quervo, the tequila that invented tequila. 1102 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 3: Proximoquervo dot com. Please drink responsibly And Luke, Cuervo has 1103 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 3: been such a fantastic partner for us, I really want 1104 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 3: to shout them out. Over the past year doing the 1105 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 3: pregame previews, checking out that Devil's reserve. Shout out to 1106 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 3: the makers, the inventors of tequila themselves. I'm talking about Quervo. 1107 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 3: All right, thank you? Right, all right, let's go on 1108 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 3: over new topic number three elsewhere on the UFC three 1109 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,240 Speaker 3: to twenty three main card. How about vandamwaight prospect Peyton 1110 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 3: Talbot during the same year in which he had his 1111 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 3: balloon popped by veteran Hyoni Barcellos and a lot of 1112 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 3: talk about whether he was on his way to becoming 1113 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 3: more of a bust. What is this some kind of bust? Yeah, 1114 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 3: it's very impressive or or could he turn it around? 1115 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 3: He bounced back from the Barcelos lost with a big win, 1116 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 3: and he came out against Henry Sujudo and I'll let 1117 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 3: it to a lot look like the finished product, the 1118 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 3: absolute real deal. What did Peyton Talbot, who beat up 1119 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 3: Henry Suhudo in the Legend's final fight, earning a unanimous decision. 1120 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 3: What did he ultimately prove to ult about his upside 1121 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 3: after taking Suhuto to the woodshed man and putting it 1122 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 3: on him. 1123 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 4: B See if Josh Van is excluded from the category 1124 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 4: of breakthrough Fighter of the Year. I honestly might have 1125 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,879 Speaker 4: to give it to Peyton Talbot, and that's a little 1126 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 4: bit crazy, because I know there's some other guys who 1127 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 4: have had some great breakout years, but I actually feel 1128 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 4: like his loss almost sets the table for what has 1129 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 4: been so amazing BCE. He fought three times this year. 1130 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,800 Speaker 4: He looked like shit against how many Barcellos, who we 1131 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 4: all recognize is also having a great year, So credit 1132 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 4: to him, But he looked kind of bad in that fight, 1133 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 4: look like he was unprepared for the moment, and I 1134 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 4: was kind of excuse me, I want to thank my 1135 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 4: daughter for sneezing right into my mouth the other day. 1136 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 4: It's been a great couple of days since then. Anyway, 1137 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 4: he looked good against Felipe Lima and his rebound. In fact, 1138 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 4: it was very good against Felipe a Lima. And you're like, Okay, 1139 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 4: we're definitely not in emergency territory, and I know what 1140 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 4: everyone's gonna say. They're gonna say, all right, but Henry 1141 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 4: was literally at the end, he was washed a shit, 1142 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 4: and that's true. However, what I'm gonna point out is 1143 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 4: number one, BC he got beaten everywhere. Number two he 1144 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 4: got taken down twice in the same round, and once 1145 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 4: with Henry's signature inside trip takedown. Henry has, in my 1146 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 4: judgment at least up to this point anyway, has had 1147 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 4: the best inside trip in all of MMA, and Peyton 1148 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 4: hit him with it and then had composure at the 1149 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,919 Speaker 4: end of the fight BC pointing down at the mat 1150 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 4: and exchanging with him in that place, like dude, he 1151 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 4: came alive this year and I think he got a 1152 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 4: little bit of cold water splashed in his face by 1153 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 4: Barcelos in January and it woke him up. And now 1154 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 4: look at him. How far he can go? I think 1155 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,479 Speaker 4: is certainly an important debate to have, and we're gonna 1156 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 4: have it. But I've never not just I'm not just 1157 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 4: hirghed because of the state of the wind. I'm inspired 1158 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,919 Speaker 4: by the speed of the development. And clearly he's got 1159 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 4: a fire under his ass that is motivating him. And 1160 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 4: look at the rewards of it. We are. This was 1161 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 4: so much fun and so great to see a young 1162 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 4: prospect really take a big turn in his career. 1163 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 3: So huge because when this fight was announced and we 1164 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 3: all loved the matchmaking, we all said the same thing. 1165 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 3: I think Shudo gets this done. I mean I remember 1166 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 3: hearing him, you know, plus two hundred something, whatever the 1167 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 3: odds were, and you're thinking, so, Hudos still got enough 1168 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 3: game planning mindset, you know, I Q all of that, 1169 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 3: but Talbot took it away looking like the next generation 1170 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 3: bandam Way. It reminded me of the moments leading into 1171 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 3: the ipokes against song Ya Dong where I felt like 1172 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 3: Suhudo for the first time was just didn't have enough 1173 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 3: on his fastball, had to do too much fainting shenanigans 1174 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 3: just to get a shot off, like he had taken 1175 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 3: that step behind. And while I thought Shudo looked better 1176 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 3: this fight, the fact that Talbot looked great in every aspect, 1177 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 3: switching stance, is, kicking, punching, the wrestling. I mean, it 1178 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 3: was incredible. I give Henry a lot of credit for 1179 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 3: being willing to take this fight, for being willing to 1180 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 3: brawl to the end like the true warrior he is, 1181 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,439 Speaker 3: despite you know, I mean, yeah, he's cringe of shit. 1182 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 3: We could argue he shouldn't have taken that much time 1183 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 3: off in his prime, all that stuff, but he handled 1184 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 3: himself like a real fighter. I even liked the exchange 1185 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 3: after the loss when he talked to Dana sort of 1186 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 3: pleaded for the fifty K, thanked Dana for giving him 1187 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 3: the opportunity for him and his family. They played the 1188 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 3: video package. It was all a nice moment. Yet that 1189 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 3: was the subplot to the true story of Peyton Talbot 1190 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 3: climbing through an up and down year and returning to 1191 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 3: being looking like that guy the future of this division. 1192 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 3: I mean, let's show the damage that he put on 1193 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 3: a true legend and so Hudo, good lord Luke Thomas, 1194 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,479 Speaker 3: whoa dude. 1195 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 4: He beat him up. He beat him up everywhere there 1196 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 4: was nowhere. I mean again, I thought Sahudo fought back 1197 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 4: with real spirit, and I think that's real. But in 1198 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 4: the end, like what did he materially do to Peyton Talbot? 1199 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 4: Not much, not much. In the end he got run 1200 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 4: over in that fight. Also, I do want to say 1201 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 4: this bec you know, we kill him when they don't 1202 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 4: do stuff like this, but when they get it right, 1203 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 4: it's worth saying. The promo package, it wasn't an promo package, 1204 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 4: but like the thank you package at the end, the 1205 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 4: video package for Sehudo that they had ready, where they're 1206 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 4: showing all these highlights and he's climbing this hill the 1207 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 4: whole time dude, this was This was fantastic. When they're 1208 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 4: ready for those kinds of things, they kill it. It 1209 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 4: was great they did. 1210 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 3: And I have loved the career of Henry Shudo, mostly 1211 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 3: because I never believed in him early on, and he 1212 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 3: won me over over that time. And Luke, when you 1213 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 3: look back at everything he has accomplished, I mean, I'm 1214 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 3: not willing to say he's the you know, combat goat 1215 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 3: of all time, but to win the Olympic gold medal 1216 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 3: in wrestling, to make that transition to the sport, to 1217 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 3: upset Demetrius Johnson, even though I didn't like the scoring 1218 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 3: in that rematch, hey, he got it done. He won 1219 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 3: the championship, He won a championship in a second division 1220 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 3: and probably saved one twenty five and since then he's 1221 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 3: pretty much only saw the best fights he could possibly make. 1222 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 3: He d near regained the Bandam weight title against al 1223 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 3: Joe off of that long layoff. In your eyes, how 1224 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 3: should we remember what Suhudo gave to the sport. 1225 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 4: One of the very best smaller weight fighters ever in 1226 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 4: company history, somebody who's athletic pedigree from a previous composite sport, 1227 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 4: and the unbelievable success they had there only made MM 1228 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 4: look better, especially when he struggled at first, but then 1229 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 4: of course, you know, being triumphant also makes MM look better. 1230 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 4: It's sort of like a Yan and a Yang kind 1231 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 4: of thing. And you know, one of these guys who 1232 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 4: you know, people have said BC, like, oh, is he 1233 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 4: a what if? And I don't think that's fine. Maybe 1234 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 4: you disagree. I just don't think that's quite right, because 1235 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 4: if you win two world weight if you win two titles, 1236 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 4: you know, it's hard to say you underachieved. Was the 1237 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 4: idea that he was gonna win? Come on, yeah, I 1238 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 4: don't know. Well, I mean, but he did leave during 1239 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 4: the middle of his prime for a big chunk, and 1240 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 4: let's be honest, BC, he never won when he came back. 1241 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 4: His career literally never recovered from that, never ever got 1242 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 4: back to the right moment. And so there is a 1243 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 4: story to be told about that PC. But for me, 1244 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 4: easily one of the better, not the best, but something 1245 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 4: one of the better lower weight fighters we've ever had 1246 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 4: in the sport, one of the early champ champs as well, 1247 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 4: to a degree and a credit to the sport of wrestling. 1248 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 3: If nothing else, I give him, ultimately the credit of 1249 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 3: being one of the smartest game planners I've ever seen, 1250 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 3: and that's what won me over. You know, I didn't 1251 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 3: think he was all that great coming up. You know, 1252 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 3: he got humbled by DJ that first time when he 1253 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 3: won the second championship, you know, and put himself at 1254 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 3: a very high level historically with the other you know, 1255 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 3: at that point, there wasn't many two division champions. I 1256 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 3: felt it was almost premature and he had sort of 1257 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 3: figured out how to sidestep his way to becoming an 1258 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 3: all time name. And then I really dialed into who 1259 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 3: he really was and watched how smart and a lot 1260 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 3: of that look. I give credit to the be dazzled 1261 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 3: captain our guy who was in the cage afterwards, Luke 1262 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 3: coach Eric Right, what's. 1263 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 4: The last name? Yeah, Albert scene. 1264 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 3: Albert scene our guy shout out to him. But seriously, 1265 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 3: Henry evolved. It took him time, but he evolved into 1266 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 3: one of the smartest fighters, game planning wise, well roundedness, 1267 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 3: and as we saw on Saturday, when he needs to 1268 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 3: bite down, he'll get it for you, like when he 1269 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 3: outslugged Joseph Benevitez in one of his early UFC fights. 1270 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 3: You know, a fight of the Year campaign. Fantastic stuff 1271 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 3: right there from Henry Suhudo. But shout out to Peyton Talbot. 1272 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 3: Let's see the takedown celebration pick. This made the rounds 1273 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,439 Speaker 3: on Twitter, the huge smile, the tongue out. Who would 1274 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 3: have thought that he would have done exactly what you said, 1275 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 3: reverse that trip into a position where you know he 1276 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 3: had Suto in control, although they did point out on 1277 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 3: the broadcast that Shudo isn't active enough when he's on 1278 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 3: the bottom there, But that was surprising to see Luke. 1279 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, celebrating this way and he got another one like 1280 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 4: a hard blast double as well, you know, and the 1281 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 4: fact that it looks homo erotic BC is just probably 1282 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 4: icing on the cake for Talbot relative to Sahudo. But no, 1283 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 4: it's incredible, dude, I mean, that's what I mean. Man. 1284 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 4: He beat him literally everywhere. The fact that Henry survived 1285 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 4: is a credit to his fighting spirit. But that's the 1286 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 4: only thing that was saving him in that fight, and 1287 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 4: his skills weren't getting the job done anymore. 1288 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 3: Let's hear from Peyton Talbot after this truly breakthrough win. 1289 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 3: This is how aging names should hand it off, right, 1290 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,439 Speaker 3: Not Anderson silv against Derek Brunson. This is the type 1291 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 3: of fight let's hear from Talbot. 1292 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 4: I thought I did pretty good. 1293 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 13: I need to watch it back as always, but to 1294 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 13: take down a former Olympic champion twice is pretty major, 1295 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 13: especially with his bread and butter. So it's surreal, pretty 1296 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 13: cool putting down a old yeller and retiring a goat 1297 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 13: like that. 1298 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 11: Your striking look fantastic as well, But is it the 1299 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 11: two takedowns that you're gonna take the most pride in tonight? 1300 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 13: I need to I rewatched the striking. I felt like 1301 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,439 Speaker 13: I was a little sloppy. I was having a little 1302 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 13: too much fun. 1303 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, you certainly hadn't heard a number of times. 1304 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 11: Were you surprised at just how durable it was because 1305 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 11: it looked like there were a couple of times where 1306 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 11: he was gonna break and he just kind of refused 1307 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 11: to go away. 1308 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, Henry's tough man, He's I think he only got 1309 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 13: finished once by Demetrius, right. Yeah, so I knew he 1310 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,919 Speaker 13: was gonna be pretty tough to finish, and I knew 1311 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 13: it was probably gonna be late late in the fight 1312 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 13: if I dig it one. 1313 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 4: But I was hitting him really. 1314 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 13: Hard, man like that's the hardest that's up there on 1315 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 13: how hard I've hit people. And I saw I saw 1316 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 13: the decision in him when he was like, I could 1317 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 13: go out right now, or I could fight through this 1318 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 13: and get the decision to fight through it. 1319 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 11: Will you seek his advice, you know, in the future 1320 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,439 Speaker 11: and training with them. 1321 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 13: And yeah, he's gonna make a phenomenal coach, you know, 1322 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 13: wherever he moves through this. You know, if he chooses 1323 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 13: to stay in it and coach a little bit, he's 1324 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 13: gonna be phenomenal at it. So yeah, I'd go and 1325 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 13: seek his knowledge. 1326 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 11: Last thing for me, you know, there's a point where 1327 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 11: it looked like you were gonna be fast tracked, that 1328 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 11: you have the setback, but you looked atm anazing and 1329 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 11: this is a signature win. So where do you see 1330 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 11: your career progressing at this point? I mean, do you 1331 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 11: want you said you're learning and getting better and improving, 1332 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 11: But do you like, hey, throw me in the rankings, 1333 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 11: throw me in the top now, or is it still like. 1334 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 4: Just a steady progression for you at your young age. 1335 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,919 Speaker 13: I don't think I have a choice. I think I'm 1336 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 13: gonna have a number by my name now either way. 1337 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 13: But I mean, this is where I wanted to be. 1338 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 4: I wanted to be in the. 1339 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 13: Top ten and just swimming with the sharks. So that's 1340 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 13: kind of what I wanted out of this. And I 1341 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 13: was super calm all week because I felt at peace 1342 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 13: with that that if I did my job in the cage, 1343 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,360 Speaker 13: then I would have a number by my name at 1344 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 13: the end of this. So yeah, I'm just I'm at 1345 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 13: peace with that, and that's what I've wanted from the 1346 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 13: get go. I'm not super fixated on the belt. I 1347 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 13: just want to put on banger fights and find the 1348 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 13: toughest guys. 1349 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 3: Luke, he uh just turned twenty seven years old. I'm 1350 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 3: not trying to say he should fight for the title next, 1351 01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 3: but this is a great step forward. If he's looking 1352 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 3: for a ranked guy, maybe somebody in the back end 1353 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 3: of the ten to fifteen. Are we thinking like a 1354 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 3: Rob Marcus McGee, what is the best time? 1355 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, this is this is where he's at. 1356 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 4: He's should be either in the top ten or pretty 1357 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 4: close to it. Long Island Lucas saying, Cheeto Vera. That 1358 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 4: seems a little. 1359 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm I don't know, So Hudo's 1360 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 5: number ten right now. So Peyton's going to be number ten. 1361 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 4: I know, I know that the numbers make sense. 1362 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 5: I'm saying he goes eight coming off a couple of losses. 1363 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 5: I feel like that's I think he's eight. 1364 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 4: I don't. 1365 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 3: He did push him. Getting this to hudo fight on 1366 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 3: the main card is a push. Yeah, he got the push. 1367 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe maybe long Island's right, Maybe that's a good 1368 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 4: fight for him, And again it's something that's a bad 1369 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 4: fight for us. I'm saying it's a good fight for him. 1370 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 4: That's a different question. But yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe that is. 1371 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 4: Maybe that is. I will have to see, but certainly 1372 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 4: that's the company that he's in now BC We'll see 1373 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 4: if he can go from there. 1374 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 3: Let's move down to the flyweight division. Two time champion 1375 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 3: Brandon Moreno entered this fight against Tatsuro Tyra as a 1376 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 3: betting underdog, and we were very surprised by that. Boy 1377 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 3: was I'm surprised to see the way the fight ultimately 1378 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 3: went as the sharps knew what they were talking about. 1379 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 3: Tyra is so happy, for sure, and he has reason 1380 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 3: to be stopping Moreno for the first time in the 1381 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 3: Great Mexican Former champion's career and really making a statement 1382 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,799 Speaker 3: two consecutive wins after that main event brawl against Brandon 1383 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 3: Royvall in which Tyra lost and although he fought well 1384 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,759 Speaker 3: at times, he looked incomplete in that fight. Two fights later, 1385 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 3: this is a different story, Luke. Was this fight more 1386 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:37,759 Speaker 3: about Tyra surging or did you see elements of Moreno 1387 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 3: showing that the beginning of the end is here? 1388 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 4: So I will tell you Moreno's not old, but he 1389 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:50,679 Speaker 4: not being dog years. You know. First of all, Tyra 1390 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 4: looked better physically than I've ever seen him. He's always 1391 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 4: obviously been great at finding you know, lead positions, particularly 1392 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 4: the back in grappling, so that part was not new, 1393 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 4: But BC, I mean I would. I know I'm doing 1394 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 4: this a lot, but I really want to do it 1395 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 4: one more time because I haven't talked to him yet 1396 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 4: long Island. Let me ask you a question. Did Tyra 1397 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 4: look physically more imposing than he had in the past, 1398 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,600 Speaker 4: and then they operate that way? And then two? Is 1399 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 4: it my imagination or did it look like Moreno wasn't 1400 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 4: taking the punches as well as he normally does. 1401 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 5: I gotta be honest, I didn't notice either of those 1402 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 5: things that much. I just remember round one, Moreno off 1403 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 5: his back almost had that triangle, and I thought he 1404 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,640 Speaker 5: was gonna get that, and then. 1405 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 4: Before I know it, the fight's over. 1406 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 6: I didn't think it was a weird stop. It did 1407 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:35,679 Speaker 6: you guys think it was a weird stop? 1408 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 3: A little quick for that? 1409 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 4: I thought it was a little now. I didn't think 1410 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 4: it was crazy early. I thought it was a little 1411 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:41,679 Speaker 4: early exactly. 1412 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 5: It was almost just like, in a matter of moments, 1413 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 5: oh shit, the fight's over. And then I it just 1414 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 5: felt like anti climactic. 1415 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe again I bet on Moreno, so 1416 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 6: that's probably why. 1417 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, dude, I don't know. He looked a little 1418 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,680 Speaker 4: like he couldn't take punches that well, not so much 1419 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 4: in the standing, but definitely like from the back when 1420 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 4: Tyra was unloading on him, he wasn't scrambling with the 1421 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 4: same kind of force that you saw him, at least 1422 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,200 Speaker 4: in my view get in the Figaredo fight. Now, part 1423 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 4: of that is the pinning pressure that Tyro was applying, Okay, 1424 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 4: but even then, it just seemed like he was a 1425 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 4: little bit dare I say manhandled, you know what I mean? 1426 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,800 Speaker 4: It kind of looked like he manhandled him. Do the 1427 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,719 Speaker 4: odds makers we were all like, oh, these are crazy 1428 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 4: odds and all they weren't. They were right on the money. 1429 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, those guys tend to know what they're 1430 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 3: doing to protect the house, it turns out. But you look, 1431 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 3: Tyro was in insanely great shape as well. He looked 1432 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 3: like he was ready to go five hard rounds even 1433 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 3: though this was a three round fight. So breakthrough performance 1434 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 3: for him. I'm not ready yet for him at the 1435 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 3: title level. I think he needs one more. I'd rather 1436 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 3: have Horror Gucci or the winner of roy Val Cop 1437 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 3: And maybe I don't know, does this does rouvalt re 1438 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,719 Speaker 3: enter the title picture because Pantosio, who beat him twice 1439 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 3: is now out as champion? Or is it the fact 1440 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 3: that Royval lost to Jan or to Van earlier this year. 1441 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 3: Would that disqualify him or would you say, well that 1442 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 3: was a Fight of the year contender where you know 1443 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 3: Royval was in it until the final thirty seconds when 1444 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 3: he got knocked down. How do you review Roval's title chances? 1445 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 3: If he gets by Cop. 1446 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 4: Pretty good, if Van is there, because you can run 1447 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,840 Speaker 4: that one back. They may not want to because they 1448 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 4: just saw it, but they could still do it. I 1449 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 4: mean he, I mean, they're definitely not better with Pantojia 1450 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 4: at the top. Right at least with Van you got 1451 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,759 Speaker 4: one more shot at it, so he has to feel 1452 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,200 Speaker 4: like he's got a little bit of a boost as 1453 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 4: a consequence. 1454 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 3: And Luke in the pay per view opener in the 1455 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 3: light heavyweight division, it was so much sucked some sisters 1456 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 3: kissing in the end with the draw a tie as 1457 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 3: in aging and injured Yon Blohovich was unable to ultimately 1458 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 3: get past Bogden Guskov. You're telling me you were not entertained. 1459 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 3: What does this mean for the former champion Yon moving forward? 1460 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 4: I mean, dude, they were literally saying on the broadcast 1461 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,599 Speaker 4: that he can't lift weights much anymore in camp because 1462 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 4: of his shoulder injury. And I'm like, brother, if your 1463 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 4: shoulder can't tolerate even moderate weight training, your time's almost up, 1464 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,839 Speaker 4: you know, like your time's almost up. You can't be 1465 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 4: that physically infirm and expect to be able to commit 1466 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,559 Speaker 4: physically to the fight itself when you need to. If 1467 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 4: you have that kind of self imposed handicap as a consequence, 1468 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 4: like it just it doesn't it doesn't work. And the 1469 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 4: fact that he can't really seem to get right. You see, 1470 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:39,640 Speaker 4: you can look at his fights that he's had this 1471 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 4: terrible streak on and you could say he should have 1472 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 4: beaten Poeton, he should have beaten Olberg, and maybe, like 1473 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,719 Speaker 4: when I say should have, I mean like everything should 1474 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,799 Speaker 4: have gone his way, you know, but they just didn't. 1475 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 4: And now they're accumulating, and now his body is failing, 1476 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 4: and now he's forty two. It's like he's not getting 1477 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,759 Speaker 4: beat up in these fights. B see, he's not getting 1478 01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,679 Speaker 4: his ass whipped. You know, that's not really what's happening. 1479 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 4: But I think his best days are very inarguably he 1480 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,679 Speaker 4: find him. If he's trying to go for another title run, 1481 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:07,879 Speaker 4: he's wasting his time. 1482 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 3: And unfortunately for the division, if this fight was set 1483 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,880 Speaker 3: up potentially to sort of pass the torch to Guskav 1484 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,719 Speaker 3: as a new contender. The good news is he's four 1485 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 3: to zero to one now since losing his UFC debut 1486 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 3: to Volcanosamir. The bad news is he didn't look like 1487 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 3: a title contender in the performance. Is that too harsh 1488 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:25,800 Speaker 3: to say? 1489 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 4: I mean, no heavyweight sucks ass. 1490 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 3: That's the true fact. Yeah, I want all the light 1491 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,599 Speaker 3: heavyweights to just go up to heavyweight anyway. Let's just 1492 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 3: we'll just pause the division right now. 1493 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, just get rid of it and have them fight 1494 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 4: the big old fat fox all right. 1495 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 3: Before we get into the rest of the UFC three 1496 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 3: to twenty three card, along with the reaction to the 1497 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,759 Speaker 3: recent updates, as the paramount schedule continues to take shape 1498 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 3: for twenty six, I want to tell you something. UFC 1499 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,719 Speaker 3: is not just hot. 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On the prelims 1542 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 3: of UFC three twenty three. There were seven finishes, five 1543 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,880 Speaker 3: by Ko t KO, two by submission. Luke Thomas, pick 1544 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,440 Speaker 3: off the menu your choice. What was the most impressive 1545 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 3: or maybe even most important victory from the prelims, which 1546 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 3: featured a ton of names on Saturday Night? 1547 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 4: All Right, gotta give big shouts, big shouts. I mean, 1548 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 4: it's not the very best of MMA, but it's some 1549 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,960 Speaker 4: ways the very best of MMA. I'm sure I'm saying 1550 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 4: these names wrong. Ewo Barnef's Barnefski Barnef. I don't know 1551 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,759 Speaker 4: how you say his name, the Polish gentleman versus Ebo 1552 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 4: Oslon ninety seconds BC of the crack pipe, That's what 1553 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 4: that was. That was Hunter Biden coming over with a 1554 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 4: big old rock and he was like, I cooked up 1555 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,679 Speaker 4: this rock. Let's smoke this shit, and I want to laptop. 1556 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 3: The Russians gave him luke. 1557 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, probably, so that was just ninety seconds 1558 01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 4: on the hit of the crack pipe. It was phenomenal, 1559 01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 4: but they were not the only ones. They were offering 1560 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 4: you something like that, as Chris Duncan defeating Terrence McKinney 1561 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,679 Speaker 4: with the end of condom on halfway into the first round. 1562 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 3: Yet or get god, it's the Terrence McKinney way, right. 1563 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 4: That's it. It's it's I mean again, we called him 1564 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 4: the evil Canevel of Mma. Brother. He shot out of 1565 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 4: a cannon. Either you're ready for it or you're not. 1566 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,799 Speaker 4: That's the way he fights. It's just he's just guaranteed excitement. 1567 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,360 Speaker 4: But I have to say, Bce, you know, there's a 1568 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,759 Speaker 4: bunch of directions you can go. I think most people 1569 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 4: are gonna spotlight Macy Barber having a pretty great performance 1570 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 4: against Karine Silva. I was moved Okay, well I'll let 1571 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 4: you go then, because she got kicked twice while she 1572 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 4: was down. What would move to you about it? 1573 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 3: Twenty one months away riding a what six fight win streak. 1574 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 3: We'd sort of been waiting for her through scheduled fights 1575 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 3: against Blanchefield nama Unis that never took place. She had 1576 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 3: a seizure and fainted trying to cut wait last time 1577 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 3: she's had undiagnosed issues, injuries, and to put it all 1578 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 3: together against a tough opponent in Karine Silva and get 1579 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 3: that type of victory. She was emotional afterwards. Look this, 1580 01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 3: I was starting to believe she was never gonna be 1581 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:01,720 Speaker 3: the I think a lot of us were, so to 1582 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 3: see her score this victory and slay those demons, it 1583 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 3: felt good. 1584 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 2: All right. 1585 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 3: I've never been a huge fan of her, you know, 1586 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 3: stick or whatever, but like she's proving to be a 1587 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 3: legitimate fighter in this division. I had wondered what all 1588 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 3: that time off and all those physical setbacks would do. 1589 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,680 Speaker 3: Did you not get the feeling like she's all the 1590 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 3: way back. 1591 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 4: She's not all the way back until she can put 1592 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 4: together a streak and I mean like consistent activity. Okay, 1593 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 4: where we're not having these derailed episodes. I'm not that 1594 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,960 Speaker 4: I'm blaming her. I'm just saying that's what has to happen. 1595 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,600 Speaker 4: But this certainly was I mean, what could you call it? 1596 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 4: You see a step in the right direction, A big one, 1597 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 4: it was. It was really great to see. I gotta 1598 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 4: go Jaalen Turner. Jalen Turner, Yeah, retires from the sport. 1599 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,719 Speaker 4: Looks like he's completely done with it, comes back. Okay, 1600 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 4: you're gonna say he's fighting a washed Barbosa. He is, 1601 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 4: but he looked awesome doing it. He found his range immediately, 1602 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 4: he had vicious weapons. He beat the shit out of 1603 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,599 Speaker 4: Barbosa very quickly. Lee without mercy, which is exactly what 1604 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,679 Speaker 4: you want in the sport, but with but with technical precision. 1605 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 4: That was such a big Using about triumphant returns, we 1606 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 4: see that was a great one itself. Also not for nothing. 1607 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 4: Mansor abdul Malik. Okay, Antonio Tricoli might be one of 1608 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 4: the worst fighters in UFC history. I'm not even doing 1609 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 4: a bit with that, like that might be real. 1610 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 3: The champions ex boyfriend you're talking. 1611 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,479 Speaker 4: About, all right, yeah, fair enough. But Mansor Abdul Malik, 1612 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,920 Speaker 4: who wrestled, if think at the University of Maryland smoked him, 1613 01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 4: so that was fun to see as well. But there's 1614 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 4: a dude, you can go Manual Torres in the main 1615 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,759 Speaker 4: Long Island Luke your standout on the prelim car. 1616 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 5: I mean, now that you named every fight I got, 1617 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 5: e WO versus EBO is the clear giveaway here. That 1618 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 5: was the best round of the year and it was 1619 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,559 Speaker 5: only ninety seconds. Uh, what's the only fight we didn't mention? 1620 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 5: Bruno Fajeda Marvin Vittoria was probably the worst fight on 1621 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 5: the prelims, but it was actually still the dude that Yeah. Yeah, 1622 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 5: he also killed two and oh against Sarah Longo, beating 1623 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:55,559 Speaker 5: his eam Saidikov too. 1624 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, dude, the prelims were fun as hell. 1625 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 5: The last two fights the main for me from fandom standpoint, 1626 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:03,360 Speaker 5: just killed it for me. 1627 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 6: But the card was really fun up until that point. 1628 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 4: For me. 1629 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 3: Is Grant Dawson done being relevant? I mean that was 1630 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:09,759 Speaker 3: a tough loss. 1631 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,360 Speaker 4: That was a bad one. I mean his problem is 1632 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 4: he's obviously great at grappling. He's great from the back. 1633 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 4: He can put you through the cycle, but the parts 1634 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 4: of the game leading up to that just are not 1635 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,160 Speaker 4: where they need to be a win consistently at a 1636 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,639 Speaker 4: high level in the sport. I mean, I'm not trying 1637 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:25,920 Speaker 4: to be a dick. He seems like a great guy, 1638 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 4: but it's tough. It's tough. And also Torres was had 1639 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 4: a good game plan right they were talking about on 1640 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 4: the broadcast, real patient, took his time and when it 1641 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 4: was time to go box them up. 1642 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,600 Speaker 3: I like the depth on this card. I like the 1643 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 3: excitement early on some stories that we talked about. We 1644 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 3: do have some sound from Macy Barber here about the 1645 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,720 Speaker 3: comeback journey, and I hope she gets a huge fight 1646 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:47,600 Speaker 3: off of this. Let's hear it. 1647 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 4: Congratulations on the win. 1648 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 14: But I guess how can you put into words what 1649 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 14: you're feeling right now after you know, twenty one months 1650 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 14: of not being able to do this. 1651 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,320 Speaker 15: I don't know if I have all the words. Honestly, it's. 1652 01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 14: Yeah, there's it's. 1653 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,840 Speaker 15: Been so long. I don't know if there's a lot 1654 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 15: of words to put into that much time. 1655 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 14: A lot of fans and even media were saying, you know, 1656 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 14: the second Macy even enters the octagon, that's the wind. 1657 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 14: Did you were you viewing it that way too? Or 1658 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,760 Speaker 14: are you just viewing this as like, all right, we're 1659 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 14: past that part. Like I'm just here to do to 1660 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 14: fight and do what I like again. 1661 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 15: Damn now you made me crunched. Sure, yeah, I think 1662 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,520 Speaker 15: that was the wind. I think that that was exactly 1663 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 15: what I I think that that's exactly how I kind 1664 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 15: of felt. You know, even in the interview with Joe, 1665 01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 15: I was like, you know, I'm just really happy to 1666 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:53,120 Speaker 15: be here. I'm just really blessed to just walk out do. 1667 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:53,559 Speaker 8: What I love. 1668 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,640 Speaker 15: I mean, yes, when the when I was walking out, 1669 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,040 Speaker 15: I mean at the end of the day, like this 1670 01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,040 Speaker 15: is a job that I have. There's another one and 1671 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 15: standing in front of me, and I have to I 1672 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,120 Speaker 15: have a goal and a dream, you know that I 1673 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,800 Speaker 15: am chasing and she's in my way. There's nothing that 1674 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:10,640 Speaker 15: is going to get in the way of that. But 1675 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,840 Speaker 15: at the same time, there is a girl inside of 1676 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 15: me that just loves to go in there and chase 1677 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 15: a dream too. 1678 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,200 Speaker 3: You know, good stuff there for Macy Barbara. By the way, 1679 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 3: jose Young's in the same two week period making me rage, 1680 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 3: quit and making women cry. This guy's just on a 1681 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 3: run right now, just an all timer of a run. Luke, 1682 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 3: We've got a bunch of announcements to go through as 1683 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 3: the UFC was busy with one of those seasonal press 1684 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,280 Speaker 3: conferences on Friday, along with continuing to fill out this 1685 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 3: schedule for the new Era, which begins January twenty fourth 1686 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,759 Speaker 3: with the UFC three twenty four pay per view. Before 1687 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,680 Speaker 3: we do that, though, Dana, you know, finally met with 1688 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,799 Speaker 3: the media. He didn't host any of these press conferences 1689 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,719 Speaker 3: during the week. He was there for the postfight press conference, 1690 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 3: so he was pressed on some important items, everything from 1691 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,840 Speaker 3: the Aliac to what have you you. One of those 1692 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 3: items was the fallout for armand Saruki, and as we 1693 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 3: already know and have broken down, it will be an 1694 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 3: interim lightweight title fight kicking off the main event of 1695 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,000 Speaker 3: the first pay per view of the UFC Paramount Era, 1696 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,800 Speaker 3: as Iliot Taporious steps away with personal issues Patty versus 1697 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 3: Justin Gatchee. So, now what does that mean for armand 1698 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 3: is he's still persona no grado with the company. Here's 1699 01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 3: Dana talking about it. 1700 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,639 Speaker 4: Armansrukin obviously the odd man out. 1701 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,599 Speaker 13: Now we expect Ilia to be unifying against the interim 1702 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 13: title winner, which would take a long run. 1703 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that he's the odd man out. 1704 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,559 Speaker 12: You know, he had an opportunity and you guys know 1705 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,280 Speaker 12: how that played out, and he's gonna have to he's 1706 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 12: gonna have to work his way back. I'll give a 1707 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,639 Speaker 12: shit what the number says. He's gonna have to work 1708 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 12: his way back. And just too much goes into this 1709 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 12: for those type of things to happen. You know, we 1710 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 12: were had, we had a little uh we're talking back 1711 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 12: in my room tonight and we're talking about, you know, 1712 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 12: all the crazy shit that's happened over the last twenty 1713 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:08,800 Speaker 12: something years. But you can't do that, you can't get 1714 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 12: the opportunity and then it can't end that way. 1715 01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,719 Speaker 4: So he's got to work his way back. 1716 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:18,720 Speaker 3: Look, I don't like that at all. 1717 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 4: Can I just say something? Can I just say something? 1718 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 4: I was on that hearing on Capitol Hill, and I 1719 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 4: watched all of the accompanying media that Nick khn did, 1720 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,880 Speaker 4: whether it was on with Max Kellerman on the Pro 1721 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:39,160 Speaker 4: Saudi Boxing Show, or whether it was pro corporate Monopoly 1722 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 4: Pat McAfee show, whatever, whether they're they're just they'll they'll 1723 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 4: say anything for a dollar, right, I mean, I'm talking 1724 01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 4: about Max and Pat McAfee, and then Nick kN gets 1725 01:24:52,640 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 4: on these shows and is absolutely explicit, explicit that the 1726 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,720 Speaker 4: aim of ZUFA Boxing is to have and this is 1727 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 4: his words. For example, on the Pat McAfee show, the 1728 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 4: champion is going to fight the number one contender. If 1729 01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 4: the number one contender is not already, he'll fight the 1730 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 4: number two contender, just like it is in UFC. Lawrence Epstein, 1731 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,120 Speaker 4: who is the chief operating officer of the UFC, said 1732 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,760 Speaker 4: something virtually identical on Capitol Hill in some of the 1733 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 4: remarks that he gave, and then Dana White goes out 1734 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:31,800 Speaker 4: there and says the exact contradictory, complete and unambiguous opposite 1735 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,479 Speaker 4: of that that he just doesn't care about the rankings. 1736 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:39,639 Speaker 4: They will literally say anything to any audience about this 1737 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 4: as long as it is either satisfying some demand or 1738 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 4: meeting some other need. But their story about what their 1739 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 4: plan to do is at a bare minimum inconsistent. It 1740 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 4: is fucking crazy to me that all last week the 1741 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,759 Speaker 4: story from every executive in that company was the exact 1742 01:25:58,040 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 4: opposite of this. 1743 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:05,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's indefensible, especially with the Vulk versus Diego 1744 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 3: Lopez rematch that'll be UFC three twenty five. The week 1745 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 3: after literally the weekend after three twenty four, so we'll 1746 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,720 Speaker 3: get back to back PL's in the new era. But 1747 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 3: I agree with you, it's it feels petty. I mean, look, 1748 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,919 Speaker 3: was it because UFC three eleven was at that Clippers 1749 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,800 Speaker 3: Arena and it was supposed to be this like very 1750 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 3: big deal. I don't know who famous was supposed to 1751 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 3: be their cage side, you know. Uh in terms of 1752 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,479 Speaker 3: like did that let him and the company down? That 1753 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 3: sar you Can pulled out? I mean people have done 1754 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,639 Speaker 3: that before. Famously, Amanda Nunez couldn't make weight for the 1755 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 3: initially scheduled Chifchenko rematch and Dana said she'd never headline again. 1756 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 3: And you know she won back that reputation. But is 1757 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 3: this just you pulled out of the wrong card at 1758 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,640 Speaker 3: the wrong time, or is it even deeper? Does it 1759 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 3: have to play into the fact that saryu Can isn't 1760 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,160 Speaker 3: motivated by the need for money that it makes does 1761 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 3: it make it a tougher negotiation? I mean, what is 1762 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 3: like the deeper transgression? Is it just you had a 1763 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:04,880 Speaker 3: title fight and you didn't make it to the to 1764 01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 3: the to the cage as that is? 1765 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 4: So, so that's that's the interesting part to me BC. 1766 01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 4: I was talking about this long hand Luke before the show. 1767 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 4: If it's that he had a late injury due to 1768 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,120 Speaker 4: some kind of accident from uh, you know, the day 1769 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 4: before fight Prepper, two days before whatever it was, you know, 1770 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 4: why would they punish him so severely. 1771 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 3: Like Tamayav did not get punished or talked about about 1772 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,400 Speaker 3: at all for missing weight by seven pounds against. 1773 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense, like why would you go 1774 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 4: after it. I understand that they would be pissed that 1775 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 4: something fell apart at the last minute for them, and 1776 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,639 Speaker 4: that maybe they thought he was a little bit reckless 1777 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,759 Speaker 4: about it, because remember he did punch a fan one time, 1778 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,639 Speaker 4: and like he remember he headbutted Dan Hooker. He's done some. 1779 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 3: Punch The fan thing is is a thing, that's a thing. 1780 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I mean he's done some boneheaded, stupid shit. 1781 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,639 Speaker 4: But he lost on that opportunity. He had to make 1782 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 4: weight for one fight and then he just headlined the 1783 01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,000 Speaker 4: guitar fight against Dan Hooker. My question is, if you're 1784 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 4: mad at him, cool, what is the punishment because just 1785 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 4: sidelining him outside of the rankings makes every single thing 1786 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 4: you are telling lawmakers a total lie. So which is 1787 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,599 Speaker 4: it which is it? Like, like I asked this after 1788 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 4: the guitar thing, b see if we're mad at him, Okay, 1789 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 4: we're mad at him, When is the punishment over? What 1790 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,599 Speaker 4: does that look like? Set the map for me? Because 1791 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 4: if it's just he suffered a freak injury, you know, late, 1792 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 4: while that is unfortunate, that the level of punishment here 1793 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 4: just seems to be onerous relative to that. Is there 1794 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,679 Speaker 4: more to the story that we do not know? That's 1795 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:39,839 Speaker 4: the part I'm trying to figure. 1796 01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 3: Out o the way that he handled it. Do they 1797 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 3: not believe that he had any physical issues? Again, I 1798 01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 3: don't know. If I'm like, was that a certain close 1799 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:49,800 Speaker 3: up card where they were going to have like the 1800 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 3: paramount execs case. I don't know. I'm thinking, like, what 1801 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,400 Speaker 3: was it that made him so angry? Either way? So 1802 01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 3: are you caking out of the mix for a bit? 1803 01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 3: We did get at that pre seasonal press conference both 1804 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 3: Patty and Gaichee saying that they thought they were each 1805 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,559 Speaker 3: of them thought they were fighting Ilia basically up until 1806 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 3: the announcement was made that they would instead be fighting 1807 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,679 Speaker 3: each other. So it did feel like Sarayuki in despite 1808 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 3: that big win against Hooker, despite the call out afterwards 1809 01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,160 Speaker 3: where he was ready to turn around on two months 1810 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,000 Speaker 3: that he was never in that equation, so that won't happen. 1811 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 3: We do know though, as they filled out more of 1812 01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 3: the three twenty four card and now the main event 1813 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 3: of the UFC three twenty six card, because three twenty 1814 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,559 Speaker 3: five will be Volk versus Lopez. But how about all 1815 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,920 Speaker 3: the way into March for UFC three twenty six in 1816 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:41,120 Speaker 3: Las Vegas March seventh, a rematch for the BMF title 1817 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,720 Speaker 3: Charles do bronx Olavera against the current belt holder, Max Holloway. 1818 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 3: Luke got popped for this. I'm down for it. I 1819 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,080 Speaker 3: love that every once in a while we can have 1820 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 3: a pay per view main event that doesn't necessarily need 1821 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,080 Speaker 3: to be a traditional title fight, that could be just 1822 01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 3: two great names that you want to see against each 1823 01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,120 Speaker 3: and in this case, against each other again because the 1824 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 3: first one had that weird injury ending so long ago. 1825 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 3: I did see some people upset at it, not loving it. 1826 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,679 Speaker 3: Where do you fall in this? I'm more than fine 1827 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 3: with this. 1828 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,559 Speaker 4: I'm fine with this. Yeah, this is totally fine. Everyone's 1829 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,840 Speaker 4: gonna say, oh, the titles made up. All the titles 1830 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,479 Speaker 4: are made up. I mean, some are more clearly defined 1831 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,599 Speaker 4: than other ones. But this is a great fight. It's 1832 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,960 Speaker 4: a great rematch. Especially we all know, Hey, everyone wants 1833 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,240 Speaker 4: that White House car to be big. Well, if you 1834 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,479 Speaker 4: want that fight house at the excuse me, if you 1835 01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,679 Speaker 4: want that fight at the White House BC to be big, 1836 01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 4: you got to make some sacrifices on events before and after. Now, listen, 1837 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,479 Speaker 4: we should actually talk about that for just a second, 1838 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,680 Speaker 4: b C. Because it is relevant. I don't think it's 1839 01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,920 Speaker 4: necessarily political to say that the President of the United 1840 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 4: States says a lot of things, and sometimes they are 1841 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 4: true and sometimes they are not. He said that today 1842 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:57,360 Speaker 4: or YESTERDAYBC, that there he's expecting eight or nine fights 1843 01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 4: that are title fights at the White House card, which, 1844 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,759 Speaker 4: if you do the math, would be all the men's 1845 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,760 Speaker 4: divisions and one or two of the women's divisions. Now, 1846 01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,600 Speaker 4: that sounds like he's got that. Just that seems like 1847 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 4: a lot, right, I don't know if that's correct, That 1848 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 4: that would that would just kill your schedule on either 1849 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,840 Speaker 4: side of these, and they've got forty three events to deliver. 1850 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,639 Speaker 4: That being said, you know you're probably gonna get three, 1851 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,479 Speaker 4: maybe four title fights, hell, maybe even five, right, you 1852 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 4: could potentially get a whole main card of them, which 1853 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 4: means BMF fights are gonna have to be headliners to 1854 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,120 Speaker 4: make that kind of thing possible. So my response to 1855 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,599 Speaker 4: fans would be, just, you know, make sure you understand 1856 01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,960 Speaker 4: what you want. If you all want a big white 1857 01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,559 Speaker 4: House card, that's a grand, you know, festival, and given 1858 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 4: what the President is potentially saying about it, you're gonna 1859 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,000 Speaker 4: have to make some sacrifices on the front end, back end. Yeah. 1860 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,200 Speaker 3: I like the fights that they've added up and down 1861 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,040 Speaker 3: the UFC three twenty four to make that first opening 1862 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,639 Speaker 3: card even deeper. I think it's gonna hit hard. Let's 1863 01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,240 Speaker 3: look at what three twenty five got announced below that 1864 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,280 Speaker 3: Vulk versus Lopez, quick turnaround, Dan Hooker in what can 1865 01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,439 Speaker 3: only hate that? Yeah, I don't love it either against 1866 01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,680 Speaker 3: ben Wa Saint Denis. You've got we'll talk about that 1867 01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,360 Speaker 3: in a second. You've got Physive against Mauricio Hoofi, who 1868 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,559 Speaker 3: needs to come back with a big performance. This should 1869 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:17,320 Speaker 3: be sloppy and fun at heavyweight to Ivasa against what's that? 1870 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,480 Speaker 3: What's talis In Tashera and then Jimmy Crue, Dustin Jacoby 1871 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 3: and oh the the new Australian guy. 1872 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,760 Speaker 4: Was it Quinn Salkil, Yeah, Quillen Salkill versus wrong Zoo. 1873 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,080 Speaker 3: So there's some bangers on this one. But Luke, I 1874 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,280 Speaker 3: agree with you. It feels too much, too soon for 1875 01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,680 Speaker 3: Hooker who was just stopped by Armin Sarukin and kind 1876 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,720 Speaker 3: of dominated. What gives here? 1877 01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,400 Speaker 4: I hate this? I mean, well, okay, I don't hate 1878 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,120 Speaker 4: the fight as such, right, it's a oh Dan Hooker 1879 01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:48,800 Speaker 4: uh bsd Okay, Well that's violence. That's that's gonna be great. Dude, 1880 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,840 Speaker 4: Dan Hooker just got the ship beating out of him. 1881 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,280 Speaker 4: His face was all fucked up. How is he back 1882 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:54,840 Speaker 4: in camp for this kind of a fight that's not 1883 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,400 Speaker 4: that far from now? Like, I don't love that. I 1884 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,000 Speaker 4: don't love that. It's so quick on turnaround. It's not 1885 01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 4: the quickest turnaround I've ever seen. But remember he's been 1886 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,360 Speaker 4: maybe that Edsen Barbosa fight. There was controversy after Hooker's 1887 01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 4: Edsen Barbosa fight because of how much damage he took 1888 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,000 Speaker 4: and then the ref didn't intervene. Daniel Cormier was yelling 1889 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,759 Speaker 4: at the ref essentially on the broadcast itself, quite rightly 1890 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,519 Speaker 4: in my judgment, Like the dude has taken a metric 1891 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,360 Speaker 4: ton of abuse. I don't love the turnaround here, to 1892 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,920 Speaker 4: be honest with you, and it makes bsd's chances even greater. 1893 01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that Phaziv Hoofy fight bangs. I like a 1894 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,120 Speaker 3: lot of the supporting fights. February there will be I believe, 1895 01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 3: three UFC fight Night cards, no official pl slash pay 1896 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,720 Speaker 3: per view because they're going back to back pay per 1897 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 3: view weekends to kick off the new paramount era. But 1898 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,320 Speaker 3: one of those has a very good middleweight main event. 1899 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,120 Speaker 3: I think we have a graphic to support it here 1900 01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,400 Speaker 3: as Fluffy Hernandez, who had to pull out of that 1901 01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,800 Speaker 3: RDR Number one contender fight, will come back quickly here 1902 01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:55,439 Speaker 3: against former champion Sean Strickland Luke Thomas. This division just 1903 01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,479 Speaker 3: recently was very bottlenecked. But do you feel like this 1904 01:33:58,479 --> 01:33:59,800 Speaker 3: could be a number one contender fight. 1905 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,719 Speaker 4: I think it has to be. I mean, I guess 1906 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,680 Speaker 4: Imovov is the guy, but to the winner of this, 1907 01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 4: I mean even even Shamaiva was saying, well, he's Aakistani, 1908 01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,160 Speaker 4: I'm cheching and I'll fight him if I have to, 1909 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,320 Speaker 4: But you know, got a lot of respect for him, 1910 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:17,280 Speaker 4: and they could cause a lot of tension and make 1911 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,760 Speaker 4: things weird. It was essentially what he was saying, he 1912 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,320 Speaker 4: doesn't want to, So I don't know what the us 1913 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,320 Speaker 4: he's gonna do about that, But if they want, they 1914 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,040 Speaker 4: can just slot the winner of this one in NBC, 1915 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,240 Speaker 4: especially if it's Strickland and he could talk a gang 1916 01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:31,559 Speaker 4: of shit, you know. But at the same time, Fluffy 1917 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,240 Speaker 4: is also a great fight, So like I feel like 1918 01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,639 Speaker 4: they're you know, this fight is a good fight. Would 1919 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 4: I'd rather have seen Fluffy? Actually, I'll tell you what, PC, 1920 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,240 Speaker 4: given the state that RDR was in, I guess I 1921 01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,360 Speaker 4: really wouldn't have rather have seen that. I'm glad I 1922 01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:47,639 Speaker 4: get this one. You're gonna get Hernandez against ready to go, 1923 01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,440 Speaker 4: maybe maybe past prime, but ready to go Sean Strickland, 1924 01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,040 Speaker 4: who's got good takedown defense and usually pretty great cardio. 1925 01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,599 Speaker 4: This is a fun ass fight, that's a good fight, 1926 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,360 Speaker 4: and that the winner of that one will be very 1927 01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,240 Speaker 4: much deserving of a big opportunit And. 1928 01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:02,800 Speaker 3: What said he will that take place in because Shawn 1929 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,040 Speaker 3: strickens Houston. Okay, he originally said he turned down a 1930 01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,680 Speaker 3: chance to fight Fluffy in Australia, So they're gonna fight 1931 01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,280 Speaker 3: in Houston. Said, very good main event. Need to see 1932 01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,559 Speaker 3: Fluffy back and healthy and see whether he's ready to 1933 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,280 Speaker 3: climb that ladder. And we'll see how long Chamaiya stays 1934 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,560 Speaker 3: atop this division as he's flirting with They moved to 1935 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,160 Speaker 3: two O five. Let's go to topic number five. It's boxing. 1936 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:27,679 Speaker 3: It was a pay per view PBC Prime Video in 1937 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,240 Speaker 3: San Antonio over the weekend. Your boy be Sizzle on 1938 01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,559 Speaker 3: the call and in the main event, the two gentlemen, 1939 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,040 Speaker 3: the only two in boxing who have taken Tank Davis 1940 01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,920 Speaker 3: to the twelve round limit and both performed very well 1941 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,200 Speaker 3: against him, fought one another as Tank continues to sit 1942 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,200 Speaker 3: out with personal issues, although the results of this fight 1943 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:49,240 Speaker 3: did seem to tease a comeback pretty soon. In the end, 1944 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,280 Speaker 3: Lamont Roach Junior moved up to a new weight class 1945 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 3: for the for the third time in three fights. Here 1946 01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,800 Speaker 3: gave up his one hundred and thirty pounds title, took 1947 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,639 Speaker 3: on eastac Pitbull Cruise the Mexican Star at one forty 1948 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,080 Speaker 3: and by the way, Luke, you want to talk about 1949 01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,639 Speaker 3: pit Bull being in line to take the baton from 1950 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:10,000 Speaker 3: Canelo as the next most beloved Mexican star. That arena 1951 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,920 Speaker 3: ten thousand people inside where the Spurs NBA Spurs play. Dude, 1952 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,599 Speaker 3: that thing was electric, like you couldn't hear yourself think 1953 01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:21,719 Speaker 3: after he scored a third round knockdown. But despite knocking 1954 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,559 Speaker 3: Roaches down for the first time in Lamont's career, the 1955 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,480 Speaker 3: second half of the fight was much different. Lamont operated 1956 01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:33,280 Speaker 3: within Pitbull Cruise's preferred phone booth style and area and 1957 01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:36,639 Speaker 3: actually made the great pit Bull back up and circle away. 1958 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,320 Speaker 3: In the end. However, I had scored the fight eight 1959 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,400 Speaker 3: rounds to four in favor of Roach. The judges saw 1960 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:47,480 Speaker 3: it differently, one judge scoring it by five points for Pitbull, 1961 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 3: two judges scoring it even one thirteen one to thirteen. 1962 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,679 Speaker 3: Pitpull was docked to point in round eight for holding. 1963 01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:55,880 Speaker 3: He would go on to blame the draw on the 1964 01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,160 Speaker 3: referee afterwards, Luke, I do have to believe, though, the 1965 01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,080 Speaker 3: bigger story here is for Roach, who in a different 1966 01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,920 Speaker 3: reality could be your Fighter of the Year in twenty 1967 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,200 Speaker 3: twenty five by doing what he did to Tank, doing 1968 01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,439 Speaker 3: what he did to Pitbull Cruise, making him back up 1969 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,800 Speaker 3: out of his A game. Yet, can we run the 1970 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:18,040 Speaker 3: tweet here from Dan Kenobio over twenty four rounds against 1971 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,519 Speaker 3: two of the best fighters in these divisions, Lamont Roach 1972 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,200 Speaker 3: did not get a single scorecard in his favor over 1973 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:29,439 Speaker 3: two fights. He only has two draws to show for it. Luke, 1974 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,240 Speaker 3: what does this say about Roach and what could have 1975 01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 3: been his breakout year? That as good as we thought 1976 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 3: he fought, the judges still in the end didn't think 1977 01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 3: he did enough. 1978 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,599 Speaker 4: Man, this one was heartbreaking. Shouts to Lamont Roach, who, 1979 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,040 Speaker 4: as you indicated overcame a third round knockdown, and I 1980 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,960 Speaker 4: thought dominated down the stretch except for the twelfth round. BC. 1981 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,160 Speaker 4: I thought Pitbull probably did enough to take the twelfth round, 1982 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:55,600 Speaker 4: but I thought he got thoroughly out boxed, certainly in 1983 01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,719 Speaker 4: the second half of that fight, you know, and maybe 1984 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,680 Speaker 4: the middle parts too. BC. I kind of go back 1985 01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 4: to the same problem. It's like, Okay, is Lamont Roach 1986 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 4: good enough to be at one forty and give guys 1987 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:09,600 Speaker 4: of their problems clearly? Clearly? Is he good enough to 1988 01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,920 Speaker 4: give guys problems at one thirty five? Again? He should 1989 01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,840 Speaker 4: have won that one outright because Tank took the knee. 1990 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:16,000 Speaker 4: I mean, if for no other reason, he got job there. 1991 01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,280 Speaker 4: But like, I'm just not convinced these are places he 1992 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,519 Speaker 4: should be in right now. I mean, I understand he's 1993 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:25,559 Speaker 4: chasing big fights and big names and big opportunities, and 1994 01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,479 Speaker 4: he's done that, but it's come with you can say 1995 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,679 Speaker 4: unfair but mixed results, it's come with you know, again, 1996 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,960 Speaker 4: we can have a conversation about boxing judging, we can 1997 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,240 Speaker 4: have a conversation about boxing officiating, particularly as related to 1998 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,400 Speaker 4: the Tank fight, But at the same time, he just 1999 01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 4: seems like at one thirty and maybe you think Shakur 2000 01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,479 Speaker 4: would be them, Maybe you think, Ohshaki Foster would beat 2001 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,280 Speaker 4: them at one thirty BC, who also had a great 2002 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,320 Speaker 4: performance on that main card. Maybe that's the case, but 2003 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,120 Speaker 4: I just feel like those are fights where he's going 2004 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 4: to be not up against some of the circumstances where 2005 01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:00,200 Speaker 4: he doesn't have big power. He is a slickster. He 2006 01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,720 Speaker 4: can get the job done, but you know, not physically 2007 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:07,040 Speaker 4: completely outmatched, but not physically maximized BC. I think that's 2008 01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,200 Speaker 4: the kind of thing that's holding it up. It's not 2009 01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:12,040 Speaker 4: a question of skill, it's definitely not a question of will, 2010 01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,400 Speaker 4: but it might be a question of, you know, the 2011 01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,919 Speaker 4: sturdiness of what he's got to offer at these weight classes. 2012 01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 4: You were ringsides, I'd be more curious to hear. 2013 01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to say, I do slightly disagree with that. 2014 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,760 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I rewatched the Tank fight, which I 2015 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,559 Speaker 3: also called you know a lot heading into this rematch, 2016 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,559 Speaker 3: and I'll say each time I watched it, I was 2017 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,479 Speaker 3: more and more impressed with what Roach did, because Tank 2018 01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,360 Speaker 3: came back in those middle rounds in five and six 2019 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,360 Speaker 3: and put it on him and looked like he was 2020 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,120 Speaker 3: on his way to doing something big, and Roach just 2021 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,280 Speaker 3: stopped it. He stood in the middle, he took a 2022 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,320 Speaker 3: big shot from Tank, countered with a bigger one that 2023 01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:45,559 Speaker 3: wobbled him, and they actually went at it for your 2024 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:49,120 Speaker 3: few rounds after that. But in hindsight to that decision, 2025 01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,840 Speaker 3: was he screwed by the no knockdown call one hundred percent. 2026 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,280 Speaker 3: But there were so many close rounds in which neither 2027 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,960 Speaker 3: man either Tank or roached through a lot of punches. 2028 01:39:58,240 --> 01:39:59,800 Speaker 3: Where I think, and we were saying that during the 2029 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 3: cast back in March, it felt like both fighters were 2030 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,080 Speaker 3: taking a gamble that the judges would prefer what they 2031 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 3: were doing when there were like single digit lands and 2032 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,720 Speaker 3: they were playing a lot of chests except for those 2033 01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,479 Speaker 3: exciting rounds. I think it was different in the rematch, 2034 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,040 Speaker 3: and I know a lot of fighters picked Cruz. I 2035 01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,160 Speaker 3: was talking to Steven Espinoza. He had thought Cruz won, 2036 01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:19,960 Speaker 3: but you know he was in the crowd, and Cruse 2037 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,000 Speaker 3: had such a crowded vantage there in San Antonio that 2038 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,960 Speaker 3: anytime he did anything, they were going nuts. So you 2039 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,960 Speaker 3: knew it had the potential to be a close fight. 2040 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,479 Speaker 3: But you also had a lot of people predicting that 2041 01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 3: Roach was gonna box from the outside against Cruz to 2042 01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 3: try to deal with that pressure, and instead he parked 2043 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 3: right in front of him. And although he got knocked 2044 01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,360 Speaker 3: down for the first time in his career, dude, when 2045 01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,120 Speaker 3: he surged back in those middle rounds, I cannot believe 2046 01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,240 Speaker 3: he turned pitbull into a boxer. He made him circle away, 2047 01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,120 Speaker 3: he made him do a lot of things that we've 2048 01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,639 Speaker 3: never seen him have to do before, even against Tank Davis. 2049 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,040 Speaker 3: And now we find out that Roach broke his hand 2050 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,760 Speaker 3: in round five in this fight and still put on 2051 01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,639 Speaker 3: that performance down the stretch. Remember when people on late 2052 01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,439 Speaker 3: notice after they pulled Roly gave that performance against Tank 2053 01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,800 Speaker 3: where he lost basically one fifteen one to thirteen on 2054 01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,360 Speaker 3: two of the three cards. It was said that for 2055 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,639 Speaker 3: as good as he fought, Tank injured his hand halfway through, 2056 01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,120 Speaker 3: and if they had, you know, rematched it, it would look differently. 2057 01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,559 Speaker 3: Roach did the same thing, and I thought he won comfortably. Now, 2058 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:23,880 Speaker 3: the official scorer, Larry Hazzard, had it close the whole 2059 01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,439 Speaker 3: way and had it just barely for Roach in the end. 2060 01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 3: I'm not upset for anyone that had Cruise closer because 2061 01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,839 Speaker 3: the first half of the fight had some very close rounds, 2062 01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,320 Speaker 3: or even from a compy box standpoint, it was even. 2063 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,120 Speaker 3: But in totality, when you look at those stats, it 2064 01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,160 Speaker 3: was all Roach, and I think when you add up 2065 01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,880 Speaker 3: the rounds, Roach did everything you would have wanted. In 2066 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,479 Speaker 3: my opinion, he didn't rely on the boxing. He stood 2067 01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,760 Speaker 3: in there, landed the bigger shots backpit bull up and 2068 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,479 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just bad luck, or if 2069 01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,920 Speaker 3: it's the fact that he's facing a very popular fighter 2070 01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,920 Speaker 3: in Texas, or maybe it's just Texas which is renowned 2071 01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,800 Speaker 3: for having such a horrible commission, one that you can't 2072 01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 3: rely upon. You just have to feel bad for him. 2073 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,320 Speaker 3: Like he said in the post for an interview, what 2074 01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,240 Speaker 3: the hell do I have to do ultimately to get 2075 01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,720 Speaker 3: this done. Let's hear from Lamont Roach and then we 2076 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,559 Speaker 3: can react to this. Here's him at the press conference 2077 01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,200 Speaker 3: after the fight and Antonio, thank you very much to 2078 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,800 Speaker 3: all the fans thinking to the medium. 2079 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,759 Speaker 1: As we welcome up one half of our main event 2080 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:20,479 Speaker 1: of the evening. 2081 01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,839 Speaker 3: The fight ended in a draw. He fought his heart out. 2082 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,240 Speaker 1: And again showed the true champion that he truly is. 2083 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,559 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Lamont roach Junior, give him around him 2084 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:34,519 Speaker 1: a pause, Lamont, that's an hour room from your fight. 2085 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:36,280 Speaker 4: What's going through your mind? 2086 01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:39,679 Speaker 13: Man? 2087 01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:41,160 Speaker 4: I hope everybody enjoy her. 2088 01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 16: Oh yeah, it's awesome. Honestly, you know, obviously I proved 2089 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,960 Speaker 16: that I'll fight anyone again. This is not my national Wait. 2090 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,840 Speaker 16: I moved up again and for a tough competitor and 2091 01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:02,040 Speaker 16: uh as a cruise. But two times in a row, 2092 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:06,920 Speaker 16: it's crazy. I can't fight my opponent and fight the 2093 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:07,679 Speaker 16: judges sites. 2094 01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:09,320 Speaker 4: It's just. 2095 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,000 Speaker 16: It's something we gotta do about it. It's something we 2096 01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:13,760 Speaker 16: gotta do about it. 2097 01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,840 Speaker 4: I think I won, and I think I definitely out 2098 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:19,559 Speaker 4: boxed him. 2099 01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,800 Speaker 16: All I need is to even playing field. 2100 01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:22,320 Speaker 4: That's all. 2101 01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,200 Speaker 16: I'm gonna come out there and show my skills. 2102 01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:24,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna show. 2103 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:29,040 Speaker 16: My great my will, everything else, and not to mention 2104 01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,080 Speaker 16: I think I broke my hand in like the fifth. 2105 01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:32,920 Speaker 2: Round or something like that. 2106 01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:37,519 Speaker 3: So we have questions for Lamont Roach. Raise your hand. Look, 2107 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,120 Speaker 3: here's what I have to say. At one point thirty 2108 01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,679 Speaker 3: where he was a title holder, he beat Hector Luis 2109 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,960 Speaker 3: Garcia by knocking him down the final round. He had 2110 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,639 Speaker 3: a one title defense. I thought he was a good fighter, 2111 01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,000 Speaker 3: never looked great. He moved up to thirty five, was 2112 01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,040 Speaker 3: clearly the bigger fighter against Tank and gave Tank the 2113 01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,320 Speaker 3: hardest fight of his life. Then moved up to one 2114 01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:59,800 Speaker 3: forty and gave Pitbull Cruise the hardest fight of his life. 2115 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,360 Speaker 3: He kind of deserves to come out of this year 2116 01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,519 Speaker 3: as a star in my opinion, for the way that 2117 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 3: he raised his game on the brightest stage. I have 2118 01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 3: nothing but respect for him. In some ways, this is boxing. 2119 01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,040 Speaker 3: You got close fights. They could go either way if 2120 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,639 Speaker 3: you don't finish them. But I believe in him as 2121 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,679 Speaker 3: a true elite now either at thirty five or forty, 2122 01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,280 Speaker 3: and I think you might have the body to go 2123 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:25,479 Speaker 3: to Welterway two eventually. Tough draw here ultimately, but Lamont 2124 01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:28,360 Speaker 3: Roach has had an incredible year and I almost think 2125 01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:30,519 Speaker 3: he deserves Fighter of the year votes coming off with 2126 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:31,559 Speaker 3: two majority draws. 2127 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 4: It's crazy to say that too. And this is the 2128 01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 4: other part you see, I'll say, in defensive Roach, who again, 2129 01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,559 Speaker 4: I like him and his father very much. A couple 2130 01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,120 Speaker 4: of DC guys, you know, I'm going to be biased 2131 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,880 Speaker 4: towards them. But BC, he didn't just dare to be 2132 01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,520 Speaker 4: great here and going to thirty five and then forty respectively. 2133 01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,840 Speaker 4: You know, fighting big time A sides and people are 2134 01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:50,479 Speaker 4: gonna say, okay, well, tanks in a side, But how 2135 01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,719 Speaker 4: much is Pitpbull Cruise? BC? Tell the truth. Pitple Cruse 2136 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 4: is one of the best ticket movers in boxing, particularly 2137 01:44:56,240 --> 01:45:00,439 Speaker 4: in these Mexican American markets like San Antonio. He was, 2138 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,160 Speaker 4: I mean, he was the A side and he was 2139 01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:06,040 Speaker 4: the hometown favorite by a gazillion miles, even though he 2140 01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,800 Speaker 4: wasn't from San Antonio. So this guy is going up 2141 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:13,080 Speaker 4: in waits into the lions den against big names or 2142 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,800 Speaker 4: big names in certain markets, which again, when they land, 2143 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,639 Speaker 4: the crowd roars, and when Roach lands, you know, there's 2144 01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,880 Speaker 4: just a bunch of silence. Correct me if I'm wrong. 2145 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,840 Speaker 4: Like this to me also feels like how hard it 2146 01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:27,519 Speaker 4: is to really upset the powers that be Apple cart 2147 01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,880 Speaker 4: so to speak, in boxing, when you try to make 2148 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:31,920 Speaker 4: a name for yourself, very very difficult to do. 2149 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,320 Speaker 3: They both at the press conference afterwards sort of argued 2150 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,760 Speaker 3: over who won. Both agreed to a rematch. Like I said, 2151 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,200 Speaker 3: Pipoll sort of blamed it on the referee for taking 2152 01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,679 Speaker 3: a point away for holding, but Pipple had been dirty 2153 01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:44,839 Speaker 3: a lot of this fight and had been warned a lot. 2154 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,679 Speaker 3: As much as I'd like to see a rematch here, Luke, 2155 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,920 Speaker 3: this fight did wake up Tank Davis whether you want 2156 01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,040 Speaker 3: to see him again or not. And he had replied 2157 01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,160 Speaker 3: to some fans, told a lot of the fans to 2158 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,920 Speaker 3: f off, but ultimately said when his knee is healthy. 2159 01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,000 Speaker 3: I didn't know he had a knee setback, that he 2160 01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:03,519 Speaker 3: wants to rematch Pitbull now if Tank Davis doesn't see 2161 01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:08,400 Speaker 3: jail time over the continued transgressions and domestic abuse. Would 2162 01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:10,720 Speaker 3: you rather see Tank in a rematch with Pitbull or 2163 01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,160 Speaker 3: Roach or just see those two fight each other again. 2164 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:21,000 Speaker 4: I don't know what to say about Tank Davis. I guess, 2165 01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,719 Speaker 4: of all worlds, I'd like to see that more because 2166 01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:28,360 Speaker 4: that one he felt to me, the pit Bull fight 2167 01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 4: was close. I thought Tank fight was close too, but 2168 01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,760 Speaker 4: then with the knee not really right, he really should 2169 01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,000 Speaker 4: have won that one. He got fucking jobbed in that one. 2170 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:39,639 Speaker 4: I don't feel like he necessarily got jobbed against Cruise, 2171 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:42,920 Speaker 4: although I also had him winning. But yeah, thirty five 2172 01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:46,600 Speaker 4: I think is better. And the Tank fight, to me, 2173 01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,360 Speaker 4: feels like the bigger wrong of the two, although I 2174 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,920 Speaker 4: can understand a argument for the reverse. That's the one 2175 01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,480 Speaker 4: I'd like to see. But Tank is so freaking unpredictable. 2176 01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:55,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what to say about that. 2177 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'd love to see 2178 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,280 Speaker 3: Tank roach too. That'd be my choice out of all 2179 01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,800 Speaker 3: those three. But heck, if you had to do Tank 2180 01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:05,719 Speaker 3: Pitbull two and then you put Roach on the Colemane 2181 01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:07,360 Speaker 3: maybe against the Frank Martin who had to break the 2182 01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,439 Speaker 3: win or whatever. Like, I think there's ways you can 2183 01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:12,519 Speaker 3: build toward this. If Tank is committed again to the sport, 2184 01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:16,240 Speaker 3: we'll see what happens quickly on that Colemane. Boxing insiders 2185 01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:18,320 Speaker 3: were fired up about this fight. It was a virtual 2186 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,759 Speaker 3: pick'm betting wise. Unfortunately for Stephen Fulton Junior, the featherweight 2187 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,720 Speaker 3: title holder, he had tried to move up to one 2188 01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 3: thirty to challenge Oshaki Foster for his belt, looking to 2189 01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,479 Speaker 3: become the first three division champion in Philadelphia history. And 2190 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,840 Speaker 3: he had said coming in this will cement him for 2191 01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:34,559 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame and he wanted to move up 2192 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,720 Speaker 3: to lightweight afterwards. Then he goes out and misses weight 2193 01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,599 Speaker 3: by two pounds and because of alphabet shenanigans, the WBC 2194 01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:46,840 Speaker 3: then floats as completely unnecessary vacant interim lightweight title fight. 2195 01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,920 Speaker 3: It kept the fight alive, but in the end, dude 2196 01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:55,040 Speaker 3: O'shaki Foster looked like an absolute complete champion with a 2197 01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:59,320 Speaker 3: like borderline virtuoso drubbing. Now he didn't get all twelve 2198 01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,599 Speaker 3: rounds from all three judges. He got all twelve rounds 2199 01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,360 Speaker 3: on my score sheet. Look, Colin Press, were you with 2200 01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,640 Speaker 3: Foster making Fulton look like you didn't belong in the 2201 01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:07,760 Speaker 3: ring with him. 2202 01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,160 Speaker 4: I was shocked by this, first of all. I was 2203 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,600 Speaker 4: shocked at Fulton missed weight going up to thirty. I 2204 01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,599 Speaker 4: was like, what the fuck is this? Dude? He got 2205 01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:22,639 Speaker 4: he got? No one would argue, and I'm not arguing 2206 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,320 Speaker 4: BC that the Innaay loss isn't worse. The Innaa loss 2207 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,000 Speaker 4: is worse. He got finished and you know was really 2208 01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,920 Speaker 4: never in that one either. I don't know how to 2209 01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,719 Speaker 4: explain this BC. Maybe I'm just completely out of my mind. 2210 01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:38,880 Speaker 4: I almost I'm not saying it is. I almost feel 2211 01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,280 Speaker 4: like this one is worse because it went the full 2212 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,880 Speaker 4: distance and he got Dude, this was a masterclass when 2213 01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:49,320 Speaker 4: Foster was in South Paw, like how to fight as 2214 01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,880 Speaker 4: a rangye South Paw. I thought this was like you 2215 01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,880 Speaker 4: could teach a class on how well he did it. 2216 01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,679 Speaker 4: But then of course going back to orthodox at various points, 2217 01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:01,960 Speaker 4: including down the stretch as well. Man, Dude, this was 2218 01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,120 Speaker 4: Fulton just was made to look lesser than from beginning 2219 01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,280 Speaker 4: to end in this one. Domination is what I would 2220 01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,760 Speaker 4: call it. He didn't. I don't think Fulton got like 2221 01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:16,000 Speaker 4: super beat up in this one, but he got out boxed. 2222 01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:20,639 Speaker 4: He got thoroughly outboxed in this one. Foster's best win 2223 01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:21,759 Speaker 4: to date in many ways. 2224 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,080 Speaker 3: B see yeah, and Foster had come off three straight 2225 01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:28,160 Speaker 3: split decisions that controversial loss in between the cut Rubson Cancesau, 2226 01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,240 Speaker 3: and I think he really felt the criticisms people had 2227 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,720 Speaker 3: faced had given him for being a slow starter, a 2228 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,840 Speaker 3: defensive fighter. He was full offense all the time. I 2229 01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,519 Speaker 3: was proud of him, seriously to give him what he's 2230 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,559 Speaker 3: been through in his life to have a victory like this, 2231 01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:43,639 Speaker 3: I think Fulton needs to go back to twenty six 2232 01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,479 Speaker 3: if he can make it, or almost step away. And 2233 01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,519 Speaker 3: I hate to say that. Look, he's still got great ability, 2234 01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,000 Speaker 3: and he tried hard for twelve rounds, but he doesn't 2235 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,360 Speaker 3: have the power to be a track you down guy, 2236 01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,639 Speaker 3: and you didn't have the speed to out box full 2237 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,479 Speaker 3: or Foster here, so he almost had nothing to miss. 2238 01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,920 Speaker 3: Way to have a video that was out there during 2239 01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:02,760 Speaker 3: the week at the press conference where he sat where 2240 01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,519 Speaker 3: he was bragging about eating two Thanksgiving meals because he 2241 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,479 Speaker 3: didn't have to cut so hard, and then he missed weight. 2242 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,519 Speaker 3: It's a bad look overall. And shout out of course 2243 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,120 Speaker 3: to uh Jesus Ramos Junior for getting that secondary middleweight 2244 01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,800 Speaker 3: belt against Shane Moseley Junior. That was a very competitive fight. 2245 01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,719 Speaker 3: Quick highlight though of the featured prelim the ghost Frank Martin, 2246 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,080 Speaker 3: who hadn't fought since that loss to Tank Davis on 2247 01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,360 Speaker 3: pay per view, moved up in wait seventeen months later 2248 01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:30,160 Speaker 3: and sent Rancis Barthelmy to hell. Look, that was a 2249 01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,160 Speaker 3: breakthrough performance are you a believer in the ghost in 2250 01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:34,000 Speaker 3: the new weight class? 2251 01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,479 Speaker 4: Now, I'm a believer that he ghosted on me five 2252 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,880 Speaker 4: times for an interview, as I brought up now because 2253 01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:40,240 Speaker 4: I'm definitely not bitter about it. 2254 01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:42,360 Speaker 3: He did the same thing. He did the same thing 2255 01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:44,960 Speaker 3: to me, dude, it's yeah, the exact same thing. 2256 01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,840 Speaker 4: And he followed me on Instagram like when we were 2257 01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:49,400 Speaker 4: setting it up. I was like, oh, great, this will 2258 01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:52,640 Speaker 4: be cool, and then just kept not showing up. I'm like, 2259 01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:56,120 Speaker 4: oh my fucking god. But dude, that was great. And 2260 01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,679 Speaker 4: also Rancis Barthelmy has stunk up the joint a million times, 2261 01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,160 Speaker 4: so you know, he kind of had this one. He 2262 01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,240 Speaker 4: kind of had this one coming a little bit. But 2263 01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,600 Speaker 4: Frank Martin, you know, he was overmatched against Tank, but 2264 01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:13,280 Speaker 4: he looked fantastic. Here again, great South Paul fighter BC. 2265 01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:16,280 Speaker 4: How about Frank Martin versus Lamont Roach wouldn't hate that one. 2266 01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:18,240 Speaker 3: He loved that. I would love that. I hope we 2267 01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:19,719 Speaker 3: get a chance to see that. He's now with Buddy 2268 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:21,759 Speaker 3: mcgert by the way, after falling out with Derek James, 2269 01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,520 Speaker 3: so good win right there. That wraps up the PBC 2270 01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,240 Speaker 3: pay per view from over the weekend. Let's go now 2271 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:28,679 Speaker 3: to our next segment. 2272 01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:28,920 Speaker 2: Here. 2273 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,040 Speaker 3: We give you the chance every Sunday night on social 2274 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:34,200 Speaker 3: media at Morning Combat on Instagram and x to get 2275 01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:43,160 Speaker 3: your questions heard. This one's called DMS from the Docks. 2276 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:47,240 Speaker 3: All right, our boy, A man and his cat leads off. 2277 01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:50,599 Speaker 3: What has been some of your favorite rematches that had 2278 01:51:50,760 --> 01:52:00,320 Speaker 3: extremely different outcomes than expected? Because I guess he's referencing, 2279 01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:03,720 Speaker 3: of course, the Yon Devolished Villy main event on Saturday. 2280 01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,439 Speaker 3: I'm thinking in boxing, of course, when when Manny Pacio, 2281 01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,880 Speaker 3: after losing the first fight to Eric Morales, came back 2282 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,680 Speaker 3: and stopped him and just ran through him after a 2283 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,000 Speaker 3: very close start to that fight. That blew my mind. 2284 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think in Mma, Luke. 2285 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:23,120 Speaker 4: Where Showgun having that long battle with Macheetah and then 2286 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,400 Speaker 4: they rematched him and he just bulldozed him right away. 2287 01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:30,920 Speaker 4: That was kind of interesting, Uh, you know a little 2288 01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:34,519 Speaker 4: more like this one, which was the first time Katur 2289 01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:38,560 Speaker 4: and Liddell. Thought Liddell got out wrestled even though he 2290 01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:40,519 Speaker 4: was he came from a wrestling background. Everyone knows that 2291 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,960 Speaker 4: cal Poly and then the second fight, Katur couldn't get 2292 01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,920 Speaker 4: shit going and got iced and then obviously the third 2293 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,479 Speaker 4: time two those, But I don't know if that's exactly 2294 01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:53,000 Speaker 4: like it was a big upset as much as it 2295 01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,280 Speaker 4: just went very differently than the first time. 2296 01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 3: How about Fury Wilder too, That was pretty. 2297 01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:02,640 Speaker 4: That was that was crazy. That was definitely crazy in 2298 01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:11,200 Speaker 4: a shitty way. Joshua Ruiz, I'm not sure. I don't 2299 01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,000 Speaker 4: think about that one a little bit more because a 2300 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,360 Speaker 4: lot of times we did see it coming, it just 2301 01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:18,960 Speaker 4: went differently. It's different than like, oh my god, I'm 2302 01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:23,559 Speaker 4: so surprised, you know, yeah, yeah, what are you doing 2303 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:24,599 Speaker 4: over there with your left hand? 2304 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,920 Speaker 3: I was petting my cat. Reggie Jackson just just arrived. 2305 01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:28,320 Speaker 6: He's here. 2306 01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:29,840 Speaker 3: He's let me see if I can get him on 2307 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:33,000 Speaker 3: the camera. Read say, hi, buddy, Yeah, there we go. 2308 01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,000 Speaker 3: You know, Luke, he's making so many enemies in the 2309 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,240 Speaker 3: house during Christmas season, hanging from the Christmas tree, beating 2310 01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:41,800 Speaker 3: up the girl cats, keeping everyone up at night by 2311 01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,200 Speaker 3: just screaming, running down the hallways screaming. 2312 01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,400 Speaker 4: You know, he'll be the last one that I euthanize. 2313 01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:50,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's that's wild, all right, Thank you 2314 01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,240 Speaker 3: for the question. A man and his cat. I'm also 2315 01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,000 Speaker 3: one of those let's hear from flannels and JITs. He 2316 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:58,479 Speaker 3: says with how so Hudo's career ended, how much did 2317 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,240 Speaker 3: his last comeback imp at his legacy? It's a good 2318 01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,519 Speaker 3: question because Sudo walked to Hudo walked away in his 2319 01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 3: prime two division champ, high on the Pomper pound list, 2320 01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,439 Speaker 3: took three years off. He's zero and four since that comeback, 2321 01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,760 Speaker 3: even though he fought well against al Joe in a 2322 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,800 Speaker 3: split decision title loss, Luke, If he did not take 2323 01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,760 Speaker 3: that time off, what does his legacy look like? 2324 01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,240 Speaker 4: Well, that's a different question. Put this one back up. 2325 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,360 Speaker 4: How did the way his career ended, how did his 2326 01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,640 Speaker 4: last comeback impacted him? To mad legacy? So this is 2327 01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:31,000 Speaker 4: more about Okay, once he did come back, what did 2328 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:31,599 Speaker 4: it add? 2329 01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:33,920 Speaker 3: Does it? Does it change his legacy? Losing four in 2330 01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:34,840 Speaker 3: a row at the end. 2331 01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,440 Speaker 4: It changes it a little bit, but it doesn't really 2332 01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,600 Speaker 4: undercut the fact that the guy was a fucking Olympic 2333 01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:41,400 Speaker 4: gold medalist and a two weight world And it's what 2334 01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,320 Speaker 4: I mean, dude, that is such an overwhelming achievement that 2335 01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:46,720 Speaker 4: like you have to go on a bj penn esk 2336 01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,320 Speaker 4: run for there to be like people just to lose 2337 01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:52,480 Speaker 4: sight of what you did. This doesn't do that, but 2338 01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:56,600 Speaker 4: it clearly just just what it did to MEBC was 2339 01:54:56,640 --> 01:55:00,680 Speaker 4: it underscored what a tragic error in strate thinking it 2340 01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:02,560 Speaker 4: was to take those three years off like that. 2341 01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,640 Speaker 3: And then what was prime the last five fights before 2342 01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,320 Speaker 3: he left the sport in May of twenty twenty was 2343 01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,920 Speaker 3: a decision win over Sergio Pettis, a very quality win, 2344 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:14,160 Speaker 3: an upset of Demetrius Johnson for the title split decision 2345 01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:17,160 Speaker 3: over five rounds, a knockout of TJ. Dillashaw for the 2346 01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,880 Speaker 3: Flyway title, and then goes up for the vacant bantamweight title, 2347 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,880 Speaker 3: gets beat up by Marlon Moris and comes back and 2348 01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,840 Speaker 3: stops him in round three, and then defends the title 2349 01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 3: against Dominic Cruz and Keith Peterson by TKO in round two. 2350 01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,520 Speaker 3: That's I mean, obviously that's the run that made him 2351 01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,600 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer, but he's got some other wins 2352 01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,800 Speaker 3: earlier in his career with that. But that run alone, dude, 2353 01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:39,600 Speaker 3: that's legend. 2354 01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,840 Speaker 4: I was a sick ass run. Yeah, he had a 2355 01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:42,720 Speaker 4: great moment there. 2356 01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,280 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to our third one from Tory O'Neill. 2357 01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:49,920 Speaker 3: Now that Morab has lost, who is your fighter of 2358 01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:51,520 Speaker 3: the Year, and I'm sure we're going to break that 2359 01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,520 Speaker 3: down as we get closer to the new year. But Luke, 2360 01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:57,600 Speaker 3: this changes because every discussion I've had about this with 2361 01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:00,960 Speaker 3: my editorial colleagues at CBS was always, well, it's gonna 2362 01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,280 Speaker 3: be Rob. It's not gonna be Morob. 2363 01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:05,800 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, so it is. 2364 01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,200 Speaker 3: It ISLAM, even though the Moikano victory in January isn't. 2365 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,160 Speaker 4: You know, you can lose and still be a Fighter 2366 01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,440 Speaker 4: of the Year contender. So, for example, in the same year, 2367 01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:19,000 Speaker 4: Robbie Lawler lost a very controversial fight to Johnny Hendrix 2368 01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:22,320 Speaker 4: and then won a little bit, and then rematched him 2369 01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,640 Speaker 4: later that year and then beat him. So he was 2370 01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,480 Speaker 4: three and one that year. Technically, ABC like Morob is 2371 01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:30,760 Speaker 4: three and one. But it's a little different when you 2372 01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:32,880 Speaker 4: avenge that loss later that year. 2373 01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,240 Speaker 3: Does that compare to Connor McGregor's twenty sixteen where he 2374 01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,400 Speaker 3: lost to Nate, beat him in a classic and then 2375 01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:39,440 Speaker 3: knocked out Eddie. 2376 01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,280 Speaker 4: To win the right same kind of thing where you 2377 01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:44,480 Speaker 4: can avenge it, it's different. You can say josh Van 2378 01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,640 Speaker 4: because you know he didn't lose and he fought four 2379 01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,240 Speaker 4: times and he won a title. Technically, I feel to 2380 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,480 Speaker 4: me the most, the most I'll say this, the single 2381 01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:57,520 Speaker 4: most impressive victory to me might be Yon. You could 2382 01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:59,840 Speaker 4: say Yan has a clear cutcase for it to BC. 2383 01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:03,040 Speaker 4: He didn't has other wins. Let me Marcus McGhee and 2384 01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:04,760 Speaker 4: what was the other one? He had one more? I think, 2385 01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:09,480 Speaker 4: well maybe it was just those two. Actually it was 2386 01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:10,120 Speaker 4: just Nick. 2387 01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:11,760 Speaker 6: I can't remember if it was this year though. 2388 01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,720 Speaker 3: All right, well what about this? What about legitimate Islam? 2389 01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:15,520 Speaker 4: Might be the answer. 2390 01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:18,640 Speaker 3: Islam's going to be high up there. What about Valentina? 2391 01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:25,640 Speaker 3: What about Manon Farrouh undefeated, physically tough, and then Jong 2392 01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:27,480 Speaker 3: Wayley in a fight that we thought was fifty to 2393 01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:28,920 Speaker 3: fifty and she beat the best. 2394 01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:32,920 Speaker 4: She's up there, Yeah, she's up there. Yeah those were 2395 01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:37,440 Speaker 4: both yeah, yeah, yeah, you could you could say you 2396 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:38,600 Speaker 4: could make a case for her too. 2397 01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:40,240 Speaker 3: Did Tremaiah just fight once? 2398 01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:43,520 Speaker 4: Just once? He beat the living well, I mean he 2399 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:47,040 Speaker 4: controlled I should say DDP to the worst extent possible, 2400 01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,200 Speaker 4: but uh, not much more than that. 2401 01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:53,000 Speaker 3: We'll see if we'll see where the votes go as 2402 01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:54,400 Speaker 3: we figure it out towards. 2403 01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:57,720 Speaker 4: And to Pooria, great win over Olavera, but he thought 2404 01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,760 Speaker 4: just one time, so that's not really, that's not enough. 2405 01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:02,280 Speaker 3: And you can't give it to Morob. 2406 01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:03,120 Speaker 6: You can't. 2407 01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,760 Speaker 4: No, you can't. Again, just not because he went three 2408 01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,560 Speaker 4: on one, but because of the way that it ended. Dude, 2409 01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:11,360 Speaker 4: if he had called it off, he would be the 2410 01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:14,280 Speaker 4: winner three title defenses. That is fucking incredible. 2411 01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:16,600 Speaker 3: Would Pantosia have been it if he had beaten Van? 2412 01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:22,000 Speaker 3: Straight up? Say again, if Pantosia had defeated Van, would 2413 01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:22,840 Speaker 3: he have been it? 2414 01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,280 Speaker 4: Maybe? Who's wcalu am? 2415 01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:31,680 Speaker 6: I not thinking of lost the boys? 2416 01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:34,520 Speaker 4: Oh he went four and one? Yeah, okay, but at heavyweight? 2417 01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:35,360 Speaker 4: I mean, let's be serious. 2418 01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:37,040 Speaker 6: I'm just saying. I mean he had a good year. 2419 01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:38,840 Speaker 4: Five a good year. He definitely had a good year. 2420 01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:39,760 Speaker 4: He definitely had a good year. 2421 01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:42,560 Speaker 3: Ye all right, all right, let's keep it going right here. 2422 01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,960 Speaker 3: The next one comes from Antonio m Alvarez. What's a 2423 01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:50,040 Speaker 3: modern MMA trend that you'd love to see left behind 2424 01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:52,280 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five? 2425 01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:55,680 Speaker 4: Say that one more time. 2426 01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:59,680 Speaker 3: What's a modern MMA trend that you'd like to see? 2427 01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,000 Speaker 3: And this year is it buying people. 2428 01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:05,800 Speaker 4: People on Twitter talking about their favorite fighters as we. 2429 01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:09,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's bad, that's pretty lame. What about dealing with 2430 01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,680 Speaker 3: ESPN plus we're gonna leave that behind, aren't we? 2431 01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,920 Speaker 4: Well still, I mean we I still have to watch PFL. 2432 01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,560 Speaker 3: You know, Okay, Okay, what. 2433 01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:20,880 Speaker 4: Mister paramount over there is like, I don't have to 2434 01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,200 Speaker 4: worry about that bullshit anymore. We're still gonna watch a 2435 01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:24,839 Speaker 4: little PFL. 2436 01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:27,880 Speaker 3: What a long island? Look, you got any MMA trends 2437 01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:28,760 Speaker 3: we should leave behind? 2438 01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:31,680 Speaker 6: I guess it's an MMA trend. 2439 01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:34,160 Speaker 5: I always hate when people say someone's a lock to 2440 01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:35,960 Speaker 5: win a fight, like, oh, they're a lock. 2441 01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:37,760 Speaker 6: They're gonna be like, no one's a fucking lock, man, 2442 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,720 Speaker 6: it's a fight, So leave that behind. 2443 01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,960 Speaker 3: You sound like an old Luke Thomas going, we don't 2444 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,680 Speaker 3: know who's gonna win. Nobody knows who's gonna win. How 2445 01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:45,760 Speaker 3: can I give a prediction? 2446 01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:50,280 Speaker 4: Nobody knows, nobody knows. Everyone pretends they know. No one knows. 2447 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:52,080 Speaker 3: I like when they be like, Luke, what's your best 2448 01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,520 Speaker 3: bet of the weekend? You're like, well, I mean minus 2449 01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:58,360 Speaker 3: fourteen hundred favorite, he's gonna win. That's what that's beat. Yeah. 2450 01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:00,720 Speaker 4: I like how you think that this is not a 2451 02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:04,760 Speaker 4: sound way of advising people. Everyone who gets it right 2452 02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:08,120 Speaker 4: is also just doing a guessing game. They mostly don't 2453 02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:10,280 Speaker 4: even know and half the time, more than half the 2454 02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:13,080 Speaker 4: time that they get it right, their reasoning isn't even 2455 02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:17,240 Speaker 4: very good. They're just guessing. They're just guessing. Take it 2456 02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:17,960 Speaker 4: for what it is. 2457 02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:21,640 Speaker 3: Our final question comes from sticks plays time. If you 2458 02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:25,080 Speaker 3: could talk to the mid thirties version of you right now, 2459 02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,520 Speaker 3: what would you say to them. So, let's say the 2460 02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:30,600 Speaker 3: thirty five year old version of Luke Thomas, that would 2461 02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:34,360 Speaker 3: be eleven years ago, that would be twenty fourteen. What 2462 02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:35,320 Speaker 3: are you saying to that. 2463 02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:38,160 Speaker 4: Man, You're not gonna believe this, but you should change 2464 02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,160 Speaker 4: careers immediately, get. 2465 02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:41,120 Speaker 3: The frick out of here. 2466 02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:43,920 Speaker 4: That's what I would tell if I was thirty five, 2467 02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:45,480 Speaker 4: That's what I would had a chance to talk to 2468 02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:49,440 Speaker 4: that thirty five. Yeah, that's what I tell them. 2469 02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:53,040 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I would tell the thirty five year old 2470 02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:57,680 Speaker 3: me to believe, believe, Believe, Believe it's possible, Believe the 2471 02:00:57,720 --> 02:01:01,480 Speaker 3: doors can open. Believe that just because something falls apart, 2472 02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:04,160 Speaker 3: that you had a big opportunity and doesn't mean that 2473 02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:07,440 Speaker 3: it's the end of your run in that field. Believe 2474 02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:12,240 Speaker 3: believe Lukes Like actually, I would tell myself, don't follow 2475 02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:15,320 Speaker 3: your dreams. You're only going to be disappointed. 2476 02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:16,520 Speaker 4: Terrible mistake to make. 2477 02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, anything else you want to tell the 2478 02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:21,880 Speaker 3: thirty five year old. 2479 02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:25,000 Speaker 4: Version of you, Luke, just that, just that, Like you've 2480 02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,600 Speaker 4: got a certain kind of sophomoric idea about how you 2481 02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:29,440 Speaker 4: think your life's going to go, and it's not going 2482 02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:31,200 Speaker 4: to go that way. It's better to be a very 2483 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:36,360 Speaker 4: cold but calculated realist about it. And uh yeah, well. 2484 02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:37,880 Speaker 3: Let a realists end up in nine to five is 2485 02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:39,360 Speaker 3: that they hate Luke. I'd rather believe. 2486 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:46,360 Speaker 4: All right, that doesn't sound so bad. Yeah, you ask me. 2487 02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:48,960 Speaker 4: It's very weird that you ask me my opinion and 2488 02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,320 Speaker 4: then don't like it when I tell you something that's unpleasant, 2489 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:54,840 Speaker 4: I suppose. But people have a lot of bad idea. 2490 02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:58,280 Speaker 4: I mean, dude, this is a terrible industry to be 2491 02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:02,720 Speaker 4: involved in, and I don't fully regret it. That's that's 2492 02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:04,320 Speaker 4: not I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I 2493 02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:07,040 Speaker 4: didn't say that. But yeah, if I had, if I 2494 02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,120 Speaker 4: had eleven year window to make a lap move, I 2495 02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:09,760 Speaker 4: would have done it. 2496 02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:13,920 Speaker 3: All right, then, the very honest musings of one Luke Thomas. 2497 02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:17,160 Speaker 3: Let's go to our final segment. Thank you for your questions, fans, 2498 02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:19,920 Speaker 3: Where I scoured the globe yesterday for the good, the bad, 2499 02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:22,080 Speaker 3: the ugly, the highs and lows and in between. In 2500 02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:24,720 Speaker 3: the world of combat sports and beyond. There's kernels in 2501 02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:25,200 Speaker 3: my ship. 2502 02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Have you seen them? 2503 02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:36,240 Speaker 3: Who? 2504 02:02:36,280 --> 02:02:36,480 Speaker 6: Ah? 2505 02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:37,800 Speaker 4: Who? 2506 02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:42,280 Speaker 3: Indeed? All right? Uh, Luke PBC. Over the weekend, Pitbull 2507 02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:45,360 Speaker 3: Cruise was acting like a freak in the ring. It 2508 02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:48,360 Speaker 3: came when he was most frustrated by roach. What do 2509 02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:51,080 Speaker 3: you make of this move? Did you see that? 2510 02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:52,400 Speaker 4: One more time? 2511 02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:57,720 Speaker 3: It gave him the tongue, the full tongue that I've. 2512 02:02:57,600 --> 02:02:59,840 Speaker 4: Given I've given some people that tongue before. 2513 02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:03,120 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, who knew he was a freak? 2514 02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:03,520 Speaker 4: All right? 2515 02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:04,800 Speaker 3: Big week for Morob. 2516 02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:05,440 Speaker 6: Uh. 2517 02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:08,880 Speaker 3: Here's an interesting SoundBite that came heading into three twenty three. 2518 02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:12,960 Speaker 10: He probably lost against him, the Pitterian I I will 2519 02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:13,960 Speaker 10: kill myself you know. 2520 02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:18,720 Speaker 3: Well, okay, there's the. 2521 02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:21,480 Speaker 4: Yep. 2522 02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:24,760 Speaker 3: Also, Uh, Morob ran into a fan who tried to 2523 02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:28,839 Speaker 3: do the Bruce Buffer bit. It was great, most loss record. 2524 02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:33,760 Speaker 3: Oh my teen wins with more losses. 2525 02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,560 Speaker 4: I now think is the best fighter in the world. 2526 02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Yes, along that, Luke, let's skip the Morob ambulance clip. 2527 02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,360 Speaker 3: Let's go to our regional MMA highlights of the week. Luke, 2528 02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:48,839 Speaker 3: where what anything? 2529 02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:49,720 Speaker 6: Anything? 2530 02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:51,040 Speaker 4: All right? 2531 02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:55,960 Speaker 3: This is ac A. This man is Mirzabecoff. He gets 2532 02:03:56,000 --> 02:04:00,520 Speaker 3: the submission, win, but watch the celebration. The thing about 2533 02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:01,879 Speaker 3: celebratings you don't want to pass. 2534 02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:05,360 Speaker 4: Out, right, Wow, he is jacked. What the fuck? Okay? 2535 02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:07,520 Speaker 4: Uh wow? 2536 02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:10,440 Speaker 3: Okay he passed out during this. Selly, dude. 2537 02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,480 Speaker 4: If you beat the opponent, don't let gravity beat you. 2538 02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:14,080 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 2539 02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:17,920 Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, let's go to FFC ninety nine. Check out 2540 02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:18,480 Speaker 3: this ending. 2541 02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:23,040 Speaker 4: Okay. You know what's so funny about this? The ko 2542 02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:27,040 Speaker 4: is incredible. This guy who won Lucas Cordibagi h I 2543 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,680 Speaker 4: called the fight just before this of him. He fought 2544 02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,680 Speaker 4: next FC and he got smashed in like I don't know, 2545 02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:36,000 Speaker 4: maybe seven seconds, like one of the shortest fights you've 2546 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,640 Speaker 4: ever seen, like something crazy. The dude who beat him 2547 02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:41,000 Speaker 4: is like waiting to be signed by the UFC and 2548 02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:42,400 Speaker 4: they haven't signed him yet. And I don't know what 2549 02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:44,040 Speaker 4: they're waiting on. Because you can see the guy we 2550 02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:45,120 Speaker 4: beat his pretty quality. 2551 02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:47,800 Speaker 3: You're probably waiting on him to accept the twelve and twelve. 2552 02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:49,040 Speaker 4: Yeah maybe so. 2553 02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:51,600 Speaker 3: Look, you've been an active man in your life. What's 2554 02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:53,280 Speaker 3: your favorite form of birth control? 2555 02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:57,320 Speaker 4: The old pull out methods? You know what I'm saying, 2556 02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:58,839 Speaker 4: Go roll that dice, brother. 2557 02:04:58,720 --> 02:05:01,720 Speaker 3: It ever fails until it Let's check out a new option. 2558 02:05:02,120 --> 02:05:04,800 Speaker 17: This is the most effective birth control on the market. 2559 02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:07,320 Speaker 17: If you use this, your chances of getting pregnant or 2560 02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,880 Speaker 17: getting someone pregnant drops to zero. So it's called magic 2561 02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:12,879 Speaker 17: the gathering and it's this card game. 2562 02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:19,360 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, it is the holiday season. Let's go 2563 02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:21,520 Speaker 3: back and receive some love from one O. J. 2564 02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:22,280 Speaker 6: Simpson. 2565 02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:25,520 Speaker 4: Covering up the white meat. I mean, I don't think 2566 02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:28,840 Speaker 4: that it actually said that. I think someone put that 2567 02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:29,320 Speaker 4: on there. 2568 02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:32,800 Speaker 3: But that's a funny bit, all right, your jersey of 2569 02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:34,920 Speaker 3: the week. Let's shout out to number eight here? 2570 02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:44,120 Speaker 4: Wow? Wow? Why would you ever go to a football game? Honestly, 2571 02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:46,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what would be the point. 2572 02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:49,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, Luke. There ain't no holiday like Thanksgiving. 2573 02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:51,919 Speaker 3: You know I've said that before. Let's bring in Boston. 2574 02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:55,040 Speaker 4: Be a man, invite a hookah to your family dinner, 2575 02:05:55,240 --> 02:06:02,080 Speaker 4: and tell everybody she's your girlfriend. Be a man. I've 2576 02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:04,320 Speaker 4: gotten pretty close set times seen you know what I mean? 2577 02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:08,240 Speaker 3: Oh, Luke, let's do a Thanksgiving special of would you eat? 2578 02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:12,440 Speaker 3: They call this the Franksgiving Dog. So you take a Glizzie, 2579 02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:17,320 Speaker 3: you put some cranberry on, all right, you get some stuffing. Dude, 2580 02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:20,200 Speaker 3: this is brilliant gravy. How have I never tried this? 2581 02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:22,000 Speaker 3: Would you eat it? Luke? 2582 02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:23,720 Speaker 4: No? 2583 02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:26,880 Speaker 3: Oh, come on, dude, that's the best part of Thanksgiving 2584 02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:27,200 Speaker 3: on a go? 2585 02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:33,240 Speaker 4: Why would I eat gravy with cranberry jelly and stuffing 2586 02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:38,200 Speaker 4: and stuffing? That looks like a yes? Also, can I 2587 02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:42,839 Speaker 4: say something ye? As a lot of people constantly seek 2588 02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:47,440 Speaker 4: how do I say this exactly? They want too much 2589 02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:50,640 Speaker 4: balance in their food. I want it sweet and sour. 2590 02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:54,120 Speaker 4: I want sweet and savory, and there some combination of 2591 02:06:54,160 --> 02:06:56,200 Speaker 4: that at times is great. Sometimes I don't want to 2592 02:06:56,200 --> 02:06:59,240 Speaker 4: mix sweet with my savory. I just want savory, and 2593 02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,440 Speaker 4: I feel like we have too much of the Oh. 2594 02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:05,040 Speaker 4: I want opposites in my food, and I don't necessarily 2595 02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:06,120 Speaker 4: always need that. 2596 02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:09,600 Speaker 3: People want a dream job that's in line with their passions. 2597 02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,080 Speaker 3: Luke is like, don't don't do it. 2598 02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:13,640 Speaker 4: Don't do it. It's a gigantic mistake. 2599 02:07:14,080 --> 02:07:16,360 Speaker 3: We have a bonus. Would you eat? Luke? It's called 2600 02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:19,520 Speaker 3: the Moby dick Burger. Keep an open mind? Would you 2601 02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:19,960 Speaker 3: eat this? 2602 02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:22,360 Speaker 4: Is that an egg? Is that cheese? 2603 02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:23,280 Speaker 3: That's cheese? 2604 02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:27,600 Speaker 4: And there's like some kind of pink sauce bacon. Oh 2605 02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:30,120 Speaker 4: my god, they're gonna wrap this motherfucker up. 2606 02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's wow, all. 2607 02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:35,760 Speaker 4: Right, they're gonna Oh, okay, all right, let's see the insides. 2608 02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:41,160 Speaker 3: Oh you can, Hell yeah, hell yeah, look at this. 2609 02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:43,680 Speaker 4: In a second. This guy's gross and I hope he dies. 2610 02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:49,000 Speaker 3: But right, luke, let's go to one more. Would you eat? 2611 02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,440 Speaker 3: Some people have different things for their wedding. How about 2612 02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:52,440 Speaker 3: a Glizzi wedding cake? 2613 02:07:52,520 --> 02:07:54,880 Speaker 4: Okay, this is I'm on board with this. This is 2614 02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:58,320 Speaker 4: it's like a Jenga tower of shitty hot dogs. Hell yeah, bro, 2615 02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:00,400 Speaker 4: by the way, I work on that. By the way, 2616 02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:02,320 Speaker 4: it honestly looks like han Solo is at the top 2617 02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:04,240 Speaker 4: of that fucking Lizzie cake. 2618 02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:06,080 Speaker 3: You know, the best wedding I ever went to about 2619 02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:08,520 Speaker 3: five years ago, my uncle got married in his front yard. 2620 02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:11,480 Speaker 3: He had a hot dog stand, in ice cream truck 2621 02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:14,720 Speaker 3: and cases full of Jenny Light beer. 2622 02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:18,000 Speaker 4: I mean it that. I'll say this too for the President. 2623 02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:19,680 Speaker 4: I'm being serious about this. Do you remember what he 2624 02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:21,680 Speaker 4: invited all like, I think it was Clemson he had 2625 02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:24,320 Speaker 4: at the White House, and he had that vast array 2626 02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:26,760 Speaker 4: of fast food. Remember it was like all like the 2627 02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:32,600 Speaker 4: the big Mac boxes. And I was like, I'm not 2628 02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:33,800 Speaker 4: super mad at that. Can I be? 2629 02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:38,680 Speaker 3: Can they say that guy d T forty five forty 2630 02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:41,400 Speaker 3: seven loves some Mickey D's loves it. 2631 02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:43,400 Speaker 4: I mean, let he who was without sin cast the 2632 02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,640 Speaker 4: first stone, Luke. 2633 02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,280 Speaker 3: We always want asked ben All to fight through blindness. 2634 02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:50,760 Speaker 3: But you know, mixing sports with injuries can be dangerous. 2635 02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:55,160 Speaker 3: Same thing with bowling. Let's watch this gentleman, good form 2636 02:08:55,240 --> 02:09:00,240 Speaker 3: so far? Oh god, idiot White on the broken arm. 2637 02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:01,240 Speaker 3: That's not gonna be good. 2638 02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:04,400 Speaker 4: Let's go to kep the surgery. You get dumbasses. 2639 02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, grid Iron time in the NFL our cock Punch 2640 02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:10,880 Speaker 3: of the Week comes from this forty nine Ers game. 2641 02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:16,520 Speaker 3: Look at this with the cat Damn dude. 2642 02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:19,880 Speaker 4: And these guys often have like some kind of protective 2643 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,040 Speaker 4: coating on it, you know, So it's a little brass knuckley, 2644 02:09:23,160 --> 02:09:23,400 Speaker 4: you know. 2645 02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:25,880 Speaker 3: Margarito in the mostly fighting, you know what I mean? 2646 02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:30,440 Speaker 3: It's wild all right. Look, the yol Romero bellator bit 2647 02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:41,080 Speaker 3: will never not make me laugh. Check this out. Yeah, yeah, 2648 02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:41,640 Speaker 3: that's great. 2649 02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:41,840 Speaker 6: Bit. 2650 02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:45,800 Speaker 3: Look, let's check in on the WWE. You big Paul Hayman, guy, Luke, 2651 02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:47,800 Speaker 3: watch this kid try to come up for some love. 2652 02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:53,960 Speaker 4: Fuck. Okay, he's now my favorite person in the world. Also, 2653 02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:57,640 Speaker 4: anybodybuddy who tells other strangers to get the fuck out 2654 02:09:57,640 --> 02:09:59,560 Speaker 4: of their face, Yeah, is my kind of guy. You 2655 02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:00,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 2656 02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:02,520 Speaker 3: Check out your boy, brock Lesnar. Let's see if he 2657 02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:05,960 Speaker 3: fights at the White House. But watch your footwork here, brock. 2658 02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:10,360 Speaker 4: All right, all right, that's uh, he recovered a little bit. 2659 02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he ate it. That dude is on a 2660 02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,600 Speaker 3: lot of things, Luke. Speaking of Brocket's time for MMA 2661 02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:18,760 Speaker 3: fighters in the wild, here's Sean Strickland running up on 2662 02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:20,080 Speaker 3: some kids. Very relatable. 2663 02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:26,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's buying fucking drugs from that guy. 2664 02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:28,879 Speaker 6: Real bad get it, bro. 2665 02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:36,280 Speaker 3: That was a decent interaction. 2666 02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:39,560 Speaker 4: Come on a man among his people. I suppose you 2667 02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:40,160 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 2668 02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand. Let's go to chech you now, Luke, 2669 02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:46,560 Speaker 3: rate the dancing skills of Bony and TREMAIAV. 2670 02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:50,360 Speaker 4: Now is this when they're doing dictator games? Yeah, there's 2671 02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:54,720 Speaker 4: the kid of Ramzan cadirov. Yes, yes, Luke, this is 2672 02:10:54,760 --> 02:10:56,160 Speaker 4: a negative eight billion out of. 2673 02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:01,600 Speaker 3: You know people, people will get down on Luke. Okay. Also, 2674 02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:05,280 Speaker 3: here's Derek Lewis with the sound bite of the week, the. 2675 02:11:05,240 --> 02:11:10,080 Speaker 7: Biggest stab of chicken. You know, I really can't remember, 2676 02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:13,480 Speaker 7: but the biggest stabber took when I was twenty sixteen 2677 02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:17,480 Speaker 7: on a cruise ship eating all of them damn burgers. 2678 02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:21,560 Speaker 7: Probably stacked this high in the tallet in one day 2679 02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:24,840 Speaker 7: and one time I probably like the biggest and the 2680 02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:29,080 Speaker 7: tallets wasn't even that bad. Actually started coming up and 2681 02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:33,360 Speaker 7: piling up so high, started coming up, almost taking in 2682 02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:35,880 Speaker 7: my balls, but mad to get that out of there. 2683 02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. I had a buddy of mine once who told 2684 02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:40,320 Speaker 4: me he had he took a dump and it was 2685 02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:42,800 Speaker 4: in a foreign country. So like the hole that flushes, 2686 02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:45,200 Speaker 4: it was not in the back, it was in the front. 2687 02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:47,200 Speaker 4: And so what ended up happened was he would take 2688 02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:50,840 Speaker 4: a dump and it would be slapping his b It 2689 02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:52,840 Speaker 4: took a ball slade. That's why he told me about it. 2690 02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:54,240 Speaker 4: I took a ball slapping dump. 2691 02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:57,320 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I want out of this conversation speaking here. 2692 02:11:57,360 --> 02:11:58,880 Speaker 4: You're the one who put this in here. I didn't. 2693 02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:00,520 Speaker 4: I didn't arrange this. You decie. 2694 02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:02,880 Speaker 3: Time to get flatchulan. I've got a great Christmas gift 2695 02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:05,160 Speaker 3: idea for you. Check out this action figure. 2696 02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,240 Speaker 4: Me leaving a party because I shit my pants action figure. 2697 02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:10,080 Speaker 3: I mean it's relatable. 2698 02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:12,800 Speaker 4: I don't need to ship my pants to leave a party, 2699 02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:13,960 Speaker 4: but I definitely would if I did. 2700 02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd give them the Lithuanian exit. At least be 2701 02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:18,560 Speaker 3: respectful and tell them right, I'm out of here, you 2702 02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:20,880 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Let's hear from this lady. 2703 02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:26,560 Speaker 18: I like to ship. You like to ship, We like 2704 02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:33,680 Speaker 18: to ship. This is shitting. I piss, you piss, we piss. 2705 02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:35,520 Speaker 18: This is piss. 2706 02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:40,520 Speaker 6: I mean, you know. 2707 02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:42,720 Speaker 3: It was poetic. 2708 02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:46,720 Speaker 4: How high were you when you put this list together? 2709 02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:47,760 Speaker 2: Look? 2710 02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:50,960 Speaker 3: Our toilet of the week takes us to this construction site. 2711 02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:52,920 Speaker 3: Would you drop here? 2712 02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:57,040 Speaker 4: I like how this show is just peepee poo poo 2713 02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:00,560 Speaker 4: and we're nearly fifty. 2714 02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:05,080 Speaker 3: Okay, let's go to Wheel of Fortune for our haha. 2715 02:13:05,160 --> 02:13:10,080 Speaker 13: The week cor in miners and hoes, no. 2716 02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:13,680 Speaker 4: Stick, fingers and towns. 2717 02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:14,120 Speaker 7: That's it. 2718 02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:21,880 Speaker 4: They're like, what was the category things you'd bang? He's 2719 02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:23,200 Speaker 4: like miners and hoes, you. 2720 02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:26,760 Speaker 3: Know, Luke We've been running clips every once in a 2721 02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:28,880 Speaker 3: while of Jay Aaron getting in the best shape of 2722 02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:32,240 Speaker 3: his life over forty you remember, yeh j Yeah, he 2723 02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:36,240 Speaker 3: went to the High Rocks Dallas. Is this CrossFit? 2724 02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:38,360 Speaker 4: I don't know, but he put a CrossFit for people 2725 02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:39,520 Speaker 4: who are not in shape. 2726 02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:42,880 Speaker 3: He put out a highlight video. He's pretty built. 2727 02:13:42,680 --> 02:13:47,520 Speaker 4: Right, he looks as middle aged and shitty and average 2728 02:13:47,560 --> 02:13:47,960 Speaker 4: as ever. 2729 02:13:48,320 --> 02:13:50,320 Speaker 3: All right, Well he he put this out on his 2730 02:13:50,360 --> 02:13:52,560 Speaker 3: ig a lot, Luke, there was a lot of this 2731 02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:55,800 Speaker 3: on there. Okay, all right, you'll never be in that 2732 02:13:55,840 --> 02:13:57,000 Speaker 3: shape again, will you, Luke. 2733 02:13:57,280 --> 02:13:59,360 Speaker 4: No, I'll be dead before I'm in this kind of shape. 2734 02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:01,120 Speaker 3: All right, me shout out. 2735 02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:02,960 Speaker 4: I'll still beat his ass, though. Know that. 2736 02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:06,760 Speaker 3: It's time to rate that tat one to ten ten 2737 02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:09,480 Speaker 3: being awesome. Up first, let's go glizzy time. 2738 02:14:12,440 --> 02:14:14,680 Speaker 4: I'll give it a five for funniness. 2739 02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:16,040 Speaker 3: Okay, there's some respect there. 2740 02:14:16,080 --> 02:14:16,400 Speaker 7: All right. 2741 02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:23,600 Speaker 3: Let's go to this head tat. That's not bad, dude. 2742 02:14:23,880 --> 02:14:26,440 Speaker 4: That is a lot. 2743 02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but can you run that one more time? I 2744 02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:30,840 Speaker 3: mean rate the art here, Luke. 2745 02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:34,080 Speaker 4: The art itself is not that great, that's the problem. 2746 02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:36,640 Speaker 4: All the colors are saturated. 2747 02:14:36,840 --> 02:14:40,640 Speaker 3: But it's so what's it gets a six? 2748 02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:41,240 Speaker 6: All right? 2749 02:14:42,080 --> 02:14:44,480 Speaker 3: This next tattoo is a is a political thing, but 2750 02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:45,920 Speaker 3: rate the artistry. 2751 02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:52,520 Speaker 4: Luke, It's no, no, it's a tattoo. It's the thing 2752 02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:59,760 Speaker 4: is it's a little too light, you know, six five 2753 02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:00,600 Speaker 4: something like that. 2754 02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:02,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, we got one more for you, Luke. 2755 02:15:03,120 --> 02:15:03,240 Speaker 13: Uh. 2756 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,080 Speaker 3: You ever get drunk and like then you hurt yourself 2757 02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:10,640 Speaker 3: but you don't realize it. Yeah, yeah, let's watch this guy. 2758 02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:15,760 Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh come on, oh my god, that. 2759 02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:17,160 Speaker 4: Is just ankle. 2760 02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:22,280 Speaker 3: I don't even think he knows though, just too drunk. 2761 02:15:22,480 --> 02:15:27,720 Speaker 3: Oh oh god, he'll never walk again. Wow. Wow, all right, 2762 02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:31,200 Speaker 3: that's that's all the ship we can handle today. Have 2763 02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:33,360 Speaker 3: you in fact seen it? 2764 02:15:33,520 --> 02:15:33,720 Speaker 11: Wow? 2765 02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:36,360 Speaker 4: You're like, hey, this guy is now on crutches for 2766 02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:38,040 Speaker 4: the remainder of his time on earth. 2767 02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:41,720 Speaker 3: You know that? Hey, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com, 2768 02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:44,000 Speaker 3: you can reach the show this Friday. We will be 2769 02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:47,600 Speaker 3: addressing your fan subs, your dead wrongs, maybe even the 2770 02:15:47,640 --> 02:15:50,360 Speaker 3: pictures of your bare pipe. Send it to mikey at 2771 02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:53,200 Speaker 3: Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. Reminder, our merch is 2772 02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:58,280 Speaker 3: here Morningcombat dot Shop. 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Shout out as always to our great sponsors, DraftKings, Quervo. 2781 02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,400 Speaker 3: I mean it's the best, it's the best time Total 2782 02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:34,880 Speaker 3: Wireless too. I mean we got great, we got great people. 2783 02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:38,439 Speaker 4: In about two hours. At three pm East Coast time today, 2784 02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:40,520 Speaker 4: I'm going to be doing a live tape study of 2785 02:16:40,560 --> 02:16:44,039 Speaker 4: the main event from Saturday. That's for paid subscribers only 2786 02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:46,119 Speaker 4: on my substack, But if you're so inclined or you're 2787 02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:48,880 Speaker 4: available and you already pay, be on the lookout three pm, 2788 02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:50,240 Speaker 4: three pm. 2789 02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:52,440 Speaker 3: Long Island, Luke, thank you for your efforts today. What 2790 02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:54,840 Speaker 3: can we look forward to on the main card minute 2791 02:16:54,840 --> 02:16:57,840 Speaker 3: this week as we build to the final ESPN card 2792 02:16:57,920 --> 02:16:58,880 Speaker 3: in UFC history. 2793 02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:00,600 Speaker 6: I know it's bittersweet. I was gonna say I have 2794 02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:02,119 Speaker 6: a bet breakdown out for that tomorrow. 2795 02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:04,240 Speaker 5: New prop quiz on Friday, but you know we'll talk 2796 02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:05,360 Speaker 5: about that on Friday show. 2797 02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:05,680 Speaker 4: All right. 2798 02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of doing a live this week, first time 2799 02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:10,120 Speaker 3: in a while, so stay tuned to. 2800 02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:14,359 Speaker 4: The BC exit for the for the final card, No. 2801 02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:16,160 Speaker 3: No, just to just to you know, talk ship and 2802 02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:19,640 Speaker 3: catch up with people, all right, catch up Mustard, all 2803 02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:22,120 Speaker 3: that stuff, all that and then some Tall Pail and 2804 02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:24,680 Speaker 3: Handsome your boy BC for the l T for the 2805 02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:27,640 Speaker 3: L I L. It's been fantastic recapping the fights with 2806 02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:30,560 Speaker 3: you this week. Hope you enjoyed it. Have a great 2807 02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:32,920 Speaker 3: week until then, we alright. He