1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know, when the audience sings along with the song, 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: that's the greatest feeling in the world because you really 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: know that they've got the message at that one you 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: like to say a shooting Star or rock and roll 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: fantasy or even thought right now, you know they when 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: the audience is singing that with me, it's amazing. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of Taking a Walk, your host 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: Buzz Night, celebrating another milestone in music history, where on 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: this episode we honor the birthday of one of the 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: greatest singers in rock and roll. Paul Rodgers has been 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: part of the soundtrack of Our Life. His band Bad 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: Company was the first band signed to led Zeppelin Swan 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: Song label, and as you probably know, he and Jimmy 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: Page would later form the Firm. His music from Free 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: to Bad Company, the Firm, and his solo career is 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: classic rock goal. He's been praised by everyone from the 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: late Freddie Mercury to John Mellencamp for his vocals. Bad 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: Company earned six platinum albums With Rogers, He's led an 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: amazing life and we celebrate him next on Taking a 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: Walk with Buzznight. 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think some special birthday wishes are in order 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: for one of the greatest singers in rock history, mister 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Paul Rogers. Happy birthday, sir. 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. I'm so glad I made it this far. 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you now, you have had some 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: documented health issues and we have this other podcast that's 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: called Music Saved Me about the healing power of music. 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: How important for you as you were healing and getting better? 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Was music for you? And you believe music saves us? 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, yeah, because it was very important. I couldn't 32 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: play acoustic guitar. I couldn't play guitar. I couldn't walk, 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't talk, I couldn't read, I couldn't write. But 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: everything was inside me and I knew what was going on, 35 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: but I just couldn't communicate outside of my own body, 36 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: in mind and everything else. But coming back from a 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: stroke is really an amazing journey. It really is, because 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: you you start to appreciate the little things that you 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: can't actually do, and yes, music just to continue that 40 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: little point though. You appreciate every little thing that you 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: can do and you build on that and that's how 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: you recover. And music definitely was a help because I 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: you know, as I said, I didn't play. They couldn't 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: play it. There's an acoustics sitting there. I didn't even 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: know what it was. Really, I made noises with it. 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it took high buzz. It took about a year 47 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: and a half for Paul to come back to playing guitar. 48 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 5: He started playing guitar. What happened was he had an 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 5: end dart doc to me the surgery because his right 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 5: left crowded art was a ninety block and that's what 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: caused the second major stroke. So after that surgery he 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 5: was admitted, left the hospital and we went for hyper barracks. 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: That was huge. 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 5: That was like watching a wilted plant. 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: Come back to life. 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: And then when we got home after that therapy treatment, 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 5: I had the Stevie guitar in the case on the 58 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 5: couch and I lifted the guitar lit up or the 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 5: case lit up, sorry, so he could see it, and 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 5: he would walk by and put it down. And this 61 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: went on for months, and then finally I took the 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 5: guitar out of the. 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: Case and I knew the couch it'll get dusty, should 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: lay open like that, the. 65 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: Cats will get into it. 66 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 5: So anyhow, he eventually took a year and a half, 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 5: but he eventually I found him sitting on the couch 68 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: with the guitar on his lap like a. 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: Slide guitar, steel. 70 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 5: Guitar, and playing it, pushing both hands across the strings, 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 5: pushing away from his body. 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: And right there, you know that, right there, the vibration 73 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: of those strings. Everything really is vibration in life, you know, 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: it really is. And the vibration of the strings kind 75 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: of woke me up. It did wake me back up. 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, And then he started singing as a result of 77 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 5: being able to play again. So it was an interesting process. 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: Don't recommend it. 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: No, I don't recommend it, but it's certainly an interesting journey. 80 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: And I do a lot of meditation as well, So 81 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: I knew that I was cognizant, but I just wasn't 82 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: able to have my voice speak the words that I 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: wanted to speak. I could prepare a sentence and go 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: for it, and out. 85 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: Would come this garbled thing. I would and I would go, 86 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: what the heck did I just say? Who could understand that? 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 4: And I could think very clearly. 88 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: As long as I could do that, I knew that 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: it would come back eventually to me. 90 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: Cynthia, It's so nice to have you on as well 91 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: with Paul, I really appreciated. Well, let me ask you, Cynthia. First, 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: does Paul roam around the house quite frequently singing all day? 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: Yes? 94 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 5: He sings every day and it's best best concert ticket. 95 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: I've got front row seat. It's fantastic. I used to sing, 96 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 5: let's just put it that way. I used to sing. 97 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: But living with him for the past twenty six years, 98 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 5: I don't really sing so much anymore. 99 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: Oh, she's a good singer. Actually, she's on the album. 100 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 4: Sure are you? You're all over that? 101 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: What were you singing today? Just by chance? 102 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: Oh? 103 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: Today I was singing just a little rain falling from 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: the sky. 105 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: The grass list has head to the heavenly anyway. 106 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm starting to get a bit cabaret there. But yeah, 107 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: that was the Searches. That was the first song I 108 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: ever sung. Actually it was a protest sum for strensy. 109 00:05:58,720 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: By the Searchers. 110 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, what have they done to the rain? Wow? 111 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: That was magical. I had chills when you were singing that, 112 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: just so you know. Oh wow, oh man. So what 113 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: was the first album that you ever bought? Paul? 114 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: The first album was Oldis Redding's Oldest Blue and The 115 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: first single that I bought was his backing band Red 116 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: Beans and Rice. His backing band was called Booker T 117 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: and the MG's red Beans and Rice and on the 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: other side was Be My Lady. 119 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: It's a great record, not very. 120 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: Not very popular, didn't sell a lot of records, but 121 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: I still have a copy of that. 122 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: It's really fantastic to listen to. 123 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I love that. 124 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: Now. 125 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: What's the significance for you with Midnight Rose, your new 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: release coming out on Sun Records? 127 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: What's the significance? Well, it's huge. 128 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: I actually I'm very surprised and very pleased to have 129 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: to be on Sun Record. You know, it's it makes 130 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: a huge difference because they've got such a legacy and 131 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: they've got a lot of experience and I mean, you know, 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: you know Howling Wolf and Elvis Presley. It doesn't get 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: much better than that. That's that's the full range of 134 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: the music, isn't it. 135 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: Really? 136 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: So they've just been great. 137 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 5: As well, not bad for a lad from Middlesbrough. 138 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: I have yes, I agree with that. 139 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: I don't even think this was even in your dream wheel. 140 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it was, because it's true because 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: when I when I was a kid. 142 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: About six year old, something like that. 143 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: My best friend we got he pulled out his elder 144 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: brothers Elvis Presley record right and Sun record on Sun 145 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: record of course, and we put it on the turntable 146 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: very sneakily, and we. 147 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: Put the needle down and we'll listen to it. 148 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: It was like because that was sacrilege because if we'd 149 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: been found doing that, we were being crucified. 150 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: So it was well, since my baby left me, you know, 151 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: we were like, wow, listen, that isn't it great? 152 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: So the clarity was unbelievable. It was obviously vinyl, you know, 153 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: so yeah. 154 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's so beautiful. So and your love of 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: the blues is so well documented. I mean, you're a 156 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: happy fella, but the blues obviously takes you in a 157 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: different place, is that right? 158 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I had a lot of angst if you're 159 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: like growing up as a teenager, et cetera, et cetera. 160 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: And when I discovered the blues, I did find that 161 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: by expressing any sadness that you might have had, all 162 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: or other people's sadness for that matter, because we used 163 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: to we used to cover all the blues guys as records, 164 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: you know, like, well, it's four. 165 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: O'clock in the morning, and I'm sitting here with that one. 166 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: You know, bb King, and you would sing other people's blues, 167 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: but you've eventually started to sing your own over the 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: twelve bar blues. And eventually I started to write you 169 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: the twelve bar blues, and then I expanded out from there. 170 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: The first song I wrote was Walking My Shadow, which 171 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: was my own rif don't don't, don't, don't doodle, don't 172 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: do And I put that to a twelve bar and 173 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: I went wow, And I wrote lyrics, and I thought 174 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 2: that I've just written a song, haven't I And that 175 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: was a step forward. And I went on to expand 176 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: beyond the twelve bar, you know, and make all the structures. 177 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 5: How old were you when you walk in My Shadow? 178 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: I was. 179 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: About I was seventeen. Wow, yeah, just before free Wow. 180 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 5: If you listen to those lyrics, if the listeners or 181 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 5: the viewers on the podcast listen to those lyrics, they're 182 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 5: pretty heavy lyrics for a seventeen year old. 183 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 184 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's a lot of copying other people, really, 185 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: you know, I. 186 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: Don't require John Yeah, yeah, but those lyrics are very unique, 187 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: I think for a seventeen year old for any age. 188 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I was walking along the road and 189 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: instead Bob Shua and I it was a heat wave. 190 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: And I wrote that song. Well my through is dry, 191 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 4: my knees a week. 192 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: It's went, Oh, women, they're so damn hot, I can't 193 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: even speak and all that stuff. 194 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: I didn't know that. 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I had to make a riff up, 196 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: you know, and put it all together. 197 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. 198 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is beautiful. Now, who are some 199 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: of the favorite blues players that you've encountered personally over 200 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: your career. 201 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: Well, well, every blues player i've heard I like, you know, 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: I like Hopkins and he's a cool cut. 203 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: They even countered by the government. 204 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: Well guys, yeah, I saw Muddy Waters at the Marquee 205 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: in London in Waldo Street in sixty seven. 206 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: I think it was. 207 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: I was so impressed because by that time it was 208 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: even by then he was so much a legend and 209 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: there was a blues boom going on in England at 210 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: the time, so blues was very popular. It goes through cycles, 211 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 2: you you, people often come back to the blues and 212 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: then it goes away and it comes back. So it's 213 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: kind of an Evergreen Annual. You know, I saw Muddy 214 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: Waters and I was so impressed that he was like 215 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: a real person, you know. He wasn't this icon that 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: was separate from the audience in a glass bubble or 217 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: and things like that. He was very personable and lovely, 218 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: you know. And actually I think they were all a 219 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: bit jet lag because the drummer. Yeah, the drummer wasn't 220 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: keeping time, and Muddy did not like that because I 221 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: think he had a few drinks. Perhaps God bless him. 222 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: You know, it happens, or used to happen, and so 223 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: Muddy sort of like give the bass player the look, right, 224 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: and they dragged, well, they lifted the drummer off. I 225 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: can't remember who the players were except for me, and 226 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: the basic player got on the drums. He did the 227 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: rest of the night. But so it was so you know, 228 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: it was so natural and free and it was beautiful. 229 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 5: And then you've met BB King Wilson. 230 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 231 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: BB was amazing. Byby was a fantastic They invited me 232 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: up on stage and I said, you sure I can go, 233 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: and the manager said, look, yes, go on, get it there. 234 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: And I went up there and I started to sing. 235 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: I don't know whether I was supposed to sing, but 236 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: I just started singing every day. Every day I had 237 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: the blues, you know, like that, and I suddenly realized 238 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: I should not really be singing here. And then I 239 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 2: turned it back around and I said, well, when you 240 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: see me worry you know, baby knows yea bby or 241 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 2: something like. 242 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: I turned the lyric around BB's blues. 243 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I heard it back to to BB 244 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, Okay, that's the way it is. 245 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 4: I'm the blues, you know, which is true? It was definitely. Yeah. 246 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, So what was the first time you in count 247 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: turned mister Jimmy Page. 248 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: I'd have to think about that. I think I obviously 249 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 4: knew their music before I met him. 250 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: I think I met him at the at the office, 251 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: actually after we had a let me let me back 252 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: troll back a little bit. We we had a road 253 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: manager in Free when we were Free and he he 254 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: left us and joined led Zeppelin's team, you know, as 255 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: a road manager. And when I was starting to get 256 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: Bad Company together, Prive calls and he came around and 257 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: he said, you should call Peter. You know, he really 258 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: wants to talk to you. I said, Peter, who he said, 259 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: Peter Grant, the manager of Led Zeppelin. I said, he 260 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: doesn't care what I'm doing. He said, no, no, you 261 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: really should call him. He really wants to talk to 262 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: And that's how my connection with Zeppelin began. I phoned 263 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: Peter up and I said, so, you know, hello, Peter, 264 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: how are you blah blah blah, and he said and 265 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: I said, oh, hey, you might be interested in what 266 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing. He said, well, I'm interested in you because 267 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: he was a cocky guy and he's a huge, big wrestler, 268 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: you know. And he said, I said, well, I come 269 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: with the band Peter, and we're called Bad Company. So 270 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: I said, well, I don't know about the name, and 271 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: the rest is history. But I met Jimmy at the office. 272 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: Having established a connection with Peter Grant. We kind of, 273 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, we've run into the Zepps all the time, 274 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: you know. 275 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: And Jimmy most recently was at the the Rock and 276 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Roll Hall of Fame. I guess he had he hadn't 277 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: been out playing in a while, and everybody's talking about 278 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: what he did there with Link Ray. It sounded pretty amazing. 279 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Are you still in touch with Jimmy? 280 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 281 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, Yeah, I'm really proud that he was able 282 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 5: to do that for Link. 283 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: Ray, Absolutely, Yeah, because kudos where they deserve. 284 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's cool because link Ray was an indigenous player, 285 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: and you know here in Canada, you know, we really 286 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 5: you know, hold our indigenous culture close to our hearts, 287 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 5: and so to see that it's pretty monumental. 288 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 289 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: Jimmy, Yeah, Jimmy did a great you know, talk to 290 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: the audience about how brave he felt that link Ray was, 291 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: you know, and the record is such a cool record. 292 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 293 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: Perry Merdeloff was also involved in that behind the scenes. 294 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 5: He's the fellow that Paul did the Royal Sessions with. 295 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: He's sort of a wizard's he's a guitarist. He's a 296 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: very good guitarist. He connects people, Yeah, he is. He 297 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: connects people. He does a lot of work with Jimmy 298 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 5: and Keith Richards and other guitarists. Yeah, he called it 299 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 5: will tell him the story about the Royal Sessions. 300 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Well, he called me up one day because we'd often 301 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: talked about early soul music and all that sort of 302 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: stuff and Isa Hey and all those great people, and 303 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: he said, guess where I am. 304 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: I said, I have no idea where you are, tell. 305 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 5: Me it's Perry. He could be anywhere. 306 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: He could be at your front door. Yeah, yeah, could 307 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: be outside, that's right. 308 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: So I said, I'm down in Memphis and there's a 309 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: studio here called the Royal Studios, and this is where 310 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: a lot of the Blues and Soul was done. And 311 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: all the session guys that were on those takes are there, 312 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, Steve Potts and and the Reverend Hodges, Charles Hodges. Yeah, 313 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: it was actually a really a reverend when he's not 314 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: a session, which is very cool. And he had the 315 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: big Hammond B three and all those guys. He said, 316 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: so you should come down and we'll make an album. 317 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: I said, okay, I jumped on the plane and we 318 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: went down there. We did it was amazing. 319 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 5: So those are the sort of things that Perry Mrgoloff 320 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 5: does in life. He'll be he'll be behind the scenes, 321 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: but something cool and is going on. Chances are Perry's 322 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: had a hand in it, or a finger in it, 323 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 5: or his whole body into it. 324 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 325 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 326 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 6: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 327 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Tell me about your experiences with the great Jeff Beck. 328 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, Well, Jeff Beck we did so much together 329 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: over the years. 330 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: We did a what's that movie we did? We did 331 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: a movie together. I can't remember what it was, the 332 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: music for the movie. The music for the movie. Yeah, 333 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 4: what was it we did? I can't remember. Just now 334 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 4: forgive someone. 335 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 2: Yeah there was one was But anyway, he was on 336 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: the tribute to Muddy Waters and there was a lot 337 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: of great musicians on that and by the time I 338 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: called him up, and by the time we spoke about it, 339 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: he wanted to do the whole album. And I said, well, Jeff, 340 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: I can't give you the whole album because we've got 341 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: other people. 342 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 5: We had David Gilmour, Brian. 343 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: May, yeah, slack body guy. But there was there were 344 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: three tracks left, and he said, I'll do them all. 345 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: And he did the three tracks that were left at 346 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: that time, and it was fantastic. He was in a 347 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: league of his own. It's such an awesome bitar player. 348 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. The last tour we did of the US it 349 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 5: was Free Spirit, so we had Jeff with Jeff and 350 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 5: Anne Wilson and Deborah Bonham. That was quite a It 351 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 5: was so surreal to be because we would flip flop 352 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 5: with Jeff on closing. So on the nights that he 353 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 5: would close, we'd be dining in our dressing room and 354 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: Jeff Beck would be serenading us. And it was so 355 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 5: surreal because he was my number one guitarist and I 356 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 5: would just sit there and eating and go it doesn't 357 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: get any better than this, you know. Yeah, what a sweetheart, 358 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 5: What an innovator? 359 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 360 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did he make it all look so easy? 361 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 4: Well? 362 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: I think it was easy for him him, but probably not, 363 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: you know, it's probably there's another satur from his point 364 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: of view, but it seemed it did seem so easy. 365 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, very focused individual, Jeff like laser focused. 366 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, very I loved the record he made with Rod Stewart, 367 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: The Truth Album. There are a couple of tracks on 368 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: there that still blow my mind. Really shapes of things, 369 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: share shapes that one, you know, and the guitar solo 370 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: in that is just out of this world. 371 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 4: I love it. 372 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the body of work with Bad Company 373 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: was so unbelievable. Do you think it hurts bands when 374 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: they're marketed as super groups? Well? 375 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 4: Who knows, you know. I mean we were marketed as 376 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 4: a supergroup. 377 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: Just literally because the last member we got with, which 378 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: was Buzz had spent a couple of months with King Crimson, 379 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: so so that meant we were free with what the 380 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: hoopl and King Crimson. 381 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: So that I understand. 382 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: That's the record company's desire to promote you, you know, 383 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: So it's it's not a bad thing. You know, you 384 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: do have to deliver for the goods. Having called yourself 385 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: a supergroup though, that's true. 386 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say the band did deliver the goods well, 387 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: thank you, I mean unbelievable. So I'm gonna cite a 388 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: particular favorite of mine. There's so many of them from 389 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Bad Company, but I'll cite a particular favorite, Silver, Blue 390 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: and Gold. Do you remember about the creation of that, 391 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: not only lyrically but musically and then in the studio 392 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: and everything? 393 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: Oh? Sure, yeah, I wrote that on a world. Remember 394 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 4: that be the I've got to get another world. It's 395 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: one of these days. 396 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: They're they're very rare item now to get a good one. 397 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: In fact, Perry's on the market period. But there's such 398 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: a great piano. They they're they're electronic electric piano, you know, 399 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 2: but they've got a feel to them when you when 400 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 2: you when you hit them hard, they growled, you know, 401 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: they've got a distorted sort of distortion into them, like 402 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: an edgy ness, or you can play them very gently anyway, 403 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: very good piano. 404 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: And I wrote silver, Blue and Gold on that in a. 405 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: In a little beds that I was living in in 406 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: in Putney in London, and the first the first title 407 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 2: was silver and gold. 408 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 4: But then I thought, we'll give me silver now blue 409 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: and gold the color of the sky and. 410 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: Tool, you know, And I wrote that like that and 411 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: took that to Pontois where we were Bad Company were 412 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: due to a record. 413 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: I think it was what was the Pack? Wouldn't it? 414 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: On the run with the Pack album? 415 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: It is? It is one of the greatest songs ever. 416 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: I have to tell you. 417 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you, Buzz, you know, and as well, 418 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: I have to point out mixed guitar playing is just 419 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: superb on that, just superb. 420 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: The soul's so perfect for the track. 421 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: It's so delicate and sweet and those high notes they 422 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: play is just great. 423 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 4: Buzz. 424 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 5: What about that track speaks to you? 425 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god, It's just it lifts me up. 426 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: It's just it tugs at my heart, it lifts me up, 427 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: and it's you know, like a lot of those in 428 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: the audience. It's part of the soundtrack of certainly My Life. 429 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, that's awesome, man. 430 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: But I could say that about so many of the 431 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: songs as well. What do you think is the secret 432 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: sauce to bands and their collaboration. 433 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: I think that the the nucleus or the basis of 434 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: any band is their songs. If they can write songs 435 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: and then play them, that's pretty much the secret. And 436 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: that's how we started out with Free. We were playing 437 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: a lot of blues in the set, and I said 438 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: to Andy, you know, we should we should try to 439 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: do what everyone was doing then, like people like The Cream, 440 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: like the Cream Cream, Jimi Hendrix and all those guys. 441 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: They were playing their own material so that they had 442 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: their own story and their own voice in a way, 443 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 2: you know. And I said, we should concentrate on, you know, 444 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: moving away from the blues a little bit and just 445 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: focusing on our own material. 446 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: And we wrote all the way to all Right Now, 447 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 4: and it was really good. 448 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: But there was one song we couldn't not do on 449 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: stage even though we were doing the whole set of 450 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: our own material, and that was The Hunter, and with 451 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: Albert King, the Hunter, which is still a great record. 452 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: It's on the Born under a Bad Sign album, and 453 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: Born on a Bad Sign itself is a great song, 454 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: great record. We couldn't get off the stage without playing 455 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: The Hunter. So I said to Andy, let's write. Let's 456 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: try and write a song that is at least as 457 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: good as The Hunter, and even something that everybody can 458 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: sing along to, you know, something simple, like you know, 459 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: like all right now baby. And I said, well, maybe 460 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: that's it, and he took that away and came back. 461 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: With bomb bomb bum and all that. You see. 462 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: So I had to write the lyrics, and so it was. 463 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 4: Like I wanted to end up with all right now. 464 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: So something happened before. What happened before? Well, it's a 465 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: boy mate's girl story. And there she stood in the street. 466 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 4: What was she doing? 467 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: Smiling from a head to her feet, big smile, And 468 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 2: I said, hey, what's this? And the lyrics just flowed 469 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: out like that, and we did that song that night. Anyway, basically, 470 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: to come to your question, come back to your question. 471 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: The point is I think that you collaborate by collaborating, 472 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: really by getting together and making it work. 473 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: How does it make you feel when you either see 474 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: your fans listening to the music as you're performing it 475 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: and you know you're connecting with them, or you meet 476 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: a fan and they tell you how their music you're 477 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: mus has connected with them. How does it make you feel? Well? 478 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: You know, when the audience sings along with the song, 479 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: that's the greatest feeling in the world because you really 480 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: know that they've got the message at that point. You know, 481 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: like to say with Shooting Star or rock and roll 482 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: Fantasy or even all right Now, you know they when 483 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: when the audience is singing that with me, it's amazing. 484 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a buzz. 485 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 5: A memory I have is when we were playing Queen 486 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 5: plus Paul Rodgers Run tour and we were playing in Kharkov, 487 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 5: the Ukraine, and there were three hundred and fifty thousand 488 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 5: people at this concert and it was a benefit concert 489 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 5: for AIDS research and the people could not speak English, 490 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: but they knew all of the words to all right Now. 491 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 5: And for me, that was a moment that's, you know, 492 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 5: stuck in my mind. I thought, Wow, how amazing. You know, 493 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 5: they don't really know what they're saying, but yet they 494 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 5: know all of the words. 495 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: But they feel good saying it and it brings people 496 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: together to I mean you're such your an army. 497 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: Then basically you're all singing together, your plan. You're a clan. 498 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: That is such a joyful experience of togetherness. 499 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: You know. 500 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, but have you listened to the new album? 501 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's joyous. I think it's uh, it's 502 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: it just really has an incredible spark and spunk to it, 503 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's tremendous. 504 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: Thanks buzz you get you get it good? Yeah, do 505 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: you have a favorite track at all? 506 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: I I you know what, I've gone through it and 507 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: just kind of listen you start to finish, and uh, 508 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: that's kind of how I've I've digested it, to be 509 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: honest with you. 510 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. You know I listened to it. You know, 511 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: it's a long time. 512 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: It takes a long time, uh, after you've mixed the 513 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: album and got it all done, to listen to it 514 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: just as it is as it sounds. As a listener, 515 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: would you know, normal like first time listener would hear it. 516 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: It's it's because you hear all the things that what 517 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: you were struggling with and through the process of recording it. 518 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: You know, I remember for the shooter and all this 519 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. We would struggle. I would struggle with 520 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: and living it up too. I wanted to get hit 521 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: the right mark, the right tone, and I tried a 522 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: number of you know, lyrics to it, and all that 523 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: kind of stuff went on. But now that it's just 524 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: there and there's nothing more you can do. It's mixed, 525 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: it's produced. 526 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: It's everything. 527 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 2: I can just listen to it as a normal person would. 528 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 2: I think it's quite a good album. 529 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: Even with that, I like just listening just as if 530 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, back to the pure album days, you know. 531 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah. 532 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: Always exciting was that when you got an album home 533 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: and it was a great big cover, you know, and 534 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 2: all the artwork and you pulled out this vinyl and. 535 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 4: There it was. 536 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a great moment when I pulled 537 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 2: out my our vinyl and there was Sun Records on 538 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: the label in the center. 539 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: Whoa. 540 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me back to the childhood days when 541 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: we pulled out El the Express. 542 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 543 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: Well, in closing, so let's let's play a little bit 544 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: of a mystical uh imagination game here. So you're able 545 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: to go into the studio with anybody either in your 546 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: past of your career that you've been with living or dead, 547 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: or someone you haven't been in a studio with in 548 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: your career. Who would that session be with? 549 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: Probably Holland Wolf when it recorded Smoke Stock Lighting woll 550 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: Smoke Staggled Lightning. Yeah, yeah, I knows. 551 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: On drums, you tell me something, well, I think Andy 552 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 5: Fraser on bass or Pino Palladino. 553 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Bozz was pretty good to you. It was players. 554 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 5: Okay, who do you want on drums? 555 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: I'd have John Bonham on drums, oh yeah. 556 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay. And then on keyboards, oh yeah, yeah, I 557 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 5: would agree with that, or Spike Edney too from Queen. 558 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 5: He's very good soul too for Blairers. Okay, so this 559 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 5: is like a symphony rock band. And then what about well, 560 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 5: I know on guitar. 561 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: On guitar, well, well off actually. 562 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 5: And how about a little bit Jimmy Hendricks. 563 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: Oh well he's not bad, he's not. 564 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 5: You could do. 565 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: Vocals, oh, you and Jimmy. 566 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: Actually I leave it to to Jimmy to halem Wolf 567 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: to be honest voice. Yeah, it was like a single 568 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: play at thirty three and a third the way he 569 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: sang you know. Yeah, so you'd be the producer of this, Yeah, yeah, 570 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: I'll be the manager. 571 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm so grateful for this time Cynthia and 572 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Paul and Paul, Happy happiest of birthday to you and 573 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: great health and thanks for the joy that you've you've 574 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: given us with all of your music and that you 575 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: continue to give us with your music. Thanks for this 576 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: virtual edition of the Taking a Walk Podcast. It's really 577 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: been fantastic. 578 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. It's been my player. 579 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Buzz it has. 580 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 5: It's been a buzz buzz. 581 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Cynthia, Thank you, Paul. 582 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 5: Take care and I love your dog picture. Is that 583 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 5: your dog Espaniel? 584 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: That's Elmer. 585 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 5: Elmer. Oh, he's gorgeous. 586 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, You're bless you both. 587 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 4: Bless you to take care. 588 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: Of Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking 589 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: a Walk Podcast. 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