WEBVTT - Part Two: Nicolae Ceaușescu: The Dracula of Being A Dick

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, what's mummified my persons? This is Robert Evans, host

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<v Speaker 1>of Behind the Bastards, here with some exciting news from

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<v Speaker 1>the world of museums. New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art

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<v Speaker 1>and the University of Chicago's Oriental Institute have adopted the

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<v Speaker 1>term mummified remains and mummified persons to refer to mummies.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're good, everybody. Finally, the long problem of people

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<v Speaker 1>not respecting mummies is over. Uh. We we did it, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I know there's a lot of activists out

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<v Speaker 1>there in the streets who have been fighting for mummy

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<v Speaker 1>rights for a long time, and I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>let you all know it was all worth it. Jeff May,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel about mummified persons? I'm calling them

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<v Speaker 1>mummies and I don't care. Let the woke mob come

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<v Speaker 1>from me. All right, they are mummies, They've always been mummies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Are they going to go back and change

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<v Speaker 1>the classic horror film to the mummified person? Absolutely not, nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the m word now? Yeah? Horrible. If anyone

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<v Speaker 1>ever calls it a mummified person to me, I am

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to read from the Book of the dead,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know from the movie The Mummy how badly

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<v Speaker 1>that can go. I would give somebody a d d T.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody was just like, um, do you mean mummified persons?

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<v Speaker 1>I would immediately just jake the snake Roberts d d

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<v Speaker 1>T them into the ground. Now, I know you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a martial arts term, but I assumed you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the pesticide that was made famous in the

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<v Speaker 1>book Silent Spring. And now I assume that you always

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<v Speaker 1>carry a full canister of DDT on you it all. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta take I gotta fight malaria. Now it's I

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<v Speaker 1>would say martial arts term is that's loose? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>I would say a professional wrestling term. That's where you

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<v Speaker 1>put somebody in sort of like a like a headlock

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a thing here, and then you just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of catapult the top of their head into the ground. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that wrestling is the only martial art I respect um.

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<v Speaker 1>So there, it's the only one you can do while

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<v Speaker 1>you dressed like a like a garbage manner. Yeah, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Behind the Bastards. It's a podcast about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people who aren't great um in in history. Speaking of which,

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<v Speaker 1>today are subject in part two is still Nikolai Cechesco.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling about Nikki as we as we

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<v Speaker 1>go into to part two? We love a bastard nick

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<v Speaker 1>on this show with with you and I together here. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's he's something, he's something, He's something,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, he's he's he earned the name. I know

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<v Speaker 1>we were building up to it last episode. It's fun

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<v Speaker 1>to see that it's going to build up to the

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<v Speaker 1>crescendo that we're going to see here. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of background last episode. Gotta you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta cover the background. Um, the you know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like how if you really want to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>humanity of a mummified person, you have to understand I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you say? You son of a bit? Also

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<v Speaker 1>a side note here that the Chicago Studies what was

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the place, the Chicago, Plicago Institute of

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<v Speaker 1>Oriental Study something like that, is that it's it's referring

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<v Speaker 1>to the region. I know, I get it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a way to work. Okay, you know what you

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<v Speaker 1>do kind of you do kind of want to know

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<v Speaker 1>when they started calling at that and like, yeah, I wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder Chicago anyway, whatever, I'm sure it's fine. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's fine. You know who's not fine, Marshall Antonescu.

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy winds up and again Marshall Antonescu. He's

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<v Speaker 1>this interesting character because he's ideologically he is not a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who is particularly interested in fascism. Um, but he

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<v Speaker 1>winds up in bed with these fascists and becomes like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the worst of them in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>his actual death toll for a stump of fascism. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird. He's he's he's he's a fascinating, geting figure

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, he's the forest gump of of of the

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<v Speaker 1>Axis powers. So under Antonescuu Romania again when kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's this whole World War thing that starts

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<v Speaker 1>up again. And the last time Romania had gone with uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Britain, France, Russia, uh and and and sided

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<v Speaker 1>with them, and it had gone terribly for Romania. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the war kind of ends and they get some land,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't do well. All of their oil fields

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<v Speaker 1>are lit on fire, all of their young men get killed. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And under Antonescu they're going to back the opposite side

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<v Speaker 1>and the next World War. And you know what, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't go well for them either. World Wars not

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<v Speaker 1>a good call for Romania. Yeah, they're not. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>the champions of World Wars. No, it only really goes

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<v Speaker 1>well for us in Switzerland. But um, you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>a story for another day. So Romania, and again, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the reason Antonescu sides with the Nazis, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of stuff going on, but one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big ones is that he wants to get back

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<v Speaker 1>best Arabia, which based on the treaty that the Nazis

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<v Speaker 1>its side with the Soviets. The Soviets got to take

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<v Speaker 1>from Romania just a little bit earlier. So the Romanians

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<v Speaker 1>side with the Nazis, who would agreed to give up

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<v Speaker 1>this territory that now the Nazis are saying, hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>you side with us, you can get this territory back,

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<v Speaker 1>which may seem like a shitty deal to you, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not trustworthy of the Nazis. I know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to like blow a lot of people's mind historically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really going to cause some people's tops to

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<v Speaker 1>pop here. Yeah, wild stuff. So Romanian troops fight alongside

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<v Speaker 1>the Nazis during Operation Barbarossa, which works really well for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while, right for there's a couple of months

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<v Speaker 1>there where it seems like, hey, maybe a good call

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<v Speaker 1>back in the Nazis. We're taking a lot of territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Romania is suddenly much bigger. What a cool time. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So it goes really well for a little while. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the bulk of Antonescue's military, the pride of Romania's army,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge chunk of their young male population, winds up

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<v Speaker 1>in a in an interesting position. They are put watching

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<v Speaker 1>the flanks of the German I believe it's the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>Army as it encircles Stalingrad. Now, jeff right, you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna play out? I don't know if anybody's ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of Stalingrad, but it's pretty well known as far

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<v Speaker 1>as battles go. It's in like I would say, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as battles go, that's a top three historically probably, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a top three, very fair. Yeah. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick a position to be in in World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two, there's a lot of bad ones, but one

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst is watching the flanks of the German

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<v Speaker 1>Army is the circle Stalin hard to get much worse

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<v Speaker 1>than that, trying to get famed sniper ed Harrison to

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<v Speaker 1>take out Jude Law. Yeah, Jude Law is fucking running

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<v Speaker 1>rough shot over these Romanians. Um, it doesn't go well

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<v Speaker 1>for them. Romanian military gets its ass handed to them

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<v Speaker 1>shortly before the German military gets its ass handed to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and things only get worse after that point. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go well after Stalingrad. Yeah yeah, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>land war in Asia and all that beyond them too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Russians. This is like the guy at the

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<v Speaker 1>bar that tries to pick a fight with the bouncer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the friends like, I don't think that's a good idea. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, you know, he got the job for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like I've taken a couple of mm A classes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I's like three times your size. Man. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a scar on his face bigger than your fists,

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<v Speaker 1>not a real tooth in his mouth at that point

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<v Speaker 1>in time. Yeah. Um so yeah, thanks go downhill from there. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And despite being again on paper, Antonescu, he is not

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that has a long history of like anti

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<v Speaker 1>Semitic agitation. He's not a guy who I think under

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<v Speaker 1>his own devices, would have cared much in either way

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<v Speaker 1>about kind of Nazi policies in that regard more of

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<v Speaker 1>a hobbyist. But his policies against Romania's Jewish population lead

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<v Speaker 1>to an unprecedented level of mass death in Romania. Um

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<v Speaker 1>and this is not the subject for this episode today.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk about this at some point. Antonescue probably

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<v Speaker 1>deserves his own episode. But more Jews are murdered by

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<v Speaker 1>the Romanian government, but then by the government of any

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<v Speaker 1>other acts as state besides Germany itself. Um, it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is a japan didn't have a lot of options there,

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<v Speaker 1>although there are a couple of interesting cases. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's there's a couple of interesting cases of Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>officials who saved Jews, um and parts of the world

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<v Speaker 1>from the Nazis, and at least one interesting case of

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<v Speaker 1>a Nazi who saves Chinese citizens from rampaging Japanese troops.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why World War Two lots of lots of neat

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<v Speaker 1>interesting history moments there. Yeah, it's like each country of

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<v Speaker 1>doing horrendous things is like these other guys need to

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<v Speaker 1>call down. Kind of seems like there's some got bad

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<v Speaker 1>guys on the Axis side, they're massacring the wrong people. So, um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Antonescu, nightmare monster. UM kills about three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Romanian Jews. I think something like that UM. Now. Supporters

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<v Speaker 1>of Antonescu, because he's kind of been rehabilitated by some

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<v Speaker 1>corners of Romanian culture recently, will note that he also

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<v Speaker 1>saved three hundred thousand Jewish lives by refusing to deport

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<v Speaker 1>those people to people to Poland when the Nazis asked

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<v Speaker 1>what he could kill them himself. I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you get credit for saving three hundred thousand Jewish lives

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<v Speaker 1>when you've just killed three hundred and eighty thousand or

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<v Speaker 1>so Jewish people. I don't know that. Yeah, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to really give you credit. In Vegas terms, they

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<v Speaker 1>call that a push. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel weird being like, look at all

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<v Speaker 1>these lives he's saved. Does he's massacring um like a

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<v Speaker 1>city's worth of human beings. We're not gonna we're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing that here on this show. That said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're also not going to be getting that into the

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<v Speaker 1>Holocaust in Romania. Not that obviously it's a worthwhile topic,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to just like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>should just I'm just trying to acknowledge the extent of

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<v Speaker 1>how bad it was. We'll talk about it more detail

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<v Speaker 1>at some other point. So they don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. Um, Jeff, we may need to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about that after class. Don't you have a

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<v Speaker 1>history degree? I'm like, I don't know how I got. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's from Florida, so they're not allowed to have

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<v Speaker 1>books Diaria and Frank hasn't gotten approved by De Santis yet. Yeah. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as the war unraveled, resistance to Antonescue coalesced behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's this alliance of like liberals and royalists led

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<v Speaker 1>by the new King Michael and a guy named Giulio

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<v Speaker 1>Manu who's the head of the National Peasants Party we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in the last episode, and they decide we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a coup and get Antonescu out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's kind of useless for them to do a

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<v Speaker 1>coup if the Allies aren't going to lie stop doing

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<v Speaker 1>a war on Romania, right, Like, there was no real

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<v Speaker 1>point in getting this guy out if they're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to fight the war more. Um, I mean, to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, historically speaking, we've seen it happen where people

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<v Speaker 1>do a coup and then they pull out of the

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<v Speaker 1>war and they're like, yeah, but it's also they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like make it less messy than it's other one,

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<v Speaker 1>because like this, the Russians do that, right, and in

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<v Speaker 1>World War One, you get your revolution and then the

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary government kind of awkwardly winds up still at war

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<v Speaker 1>with Germany for a while and it's it's it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go great. Um. So they have this back channel

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<v Speaker 1>to the Allies and the Brits, who is the people

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking with directly, are like, look, we'd love it

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<v Speaker 1>if you get Antonescu out, be real great for us.

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<v Speaker 1>But Stalin's really the guy you got to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>because your romania. Um so we are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be your main point of contact. They're like, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>know who you need to talk is too, is our

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<v Speaker 1>very stable friend, are sane and totally reason bold buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Jason to send guy now ja Stall To be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an unreasonable thing. He says, Hey, look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to work something out with us and

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<v Speaker 1>coup this guy, that's great, it will save me some trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>But you gotta bring the Romanian Communist Party into the

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<v Speaker 1>coup government, right, They've got to be part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is again not an inherently unreasonable thing, except for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that again there's like seven hundred Romanian communists, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not a major party that will take an

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon to get me. Yeah, exactly, so, man, you the

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<v Speaker 1>National Peasants Party guy is like, of course, look, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're this is a bad situation. I'm not gonna fight

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<v Speaker 1>you over this matter. Um. But he is like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not really a whole lot of communists in Romania, Joseph Stalin,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you recommend? We put In? And Stalin and

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviets recommend a law professor named Lucres Patronascano, patresh Canoe.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry Lucres, you, I'm sorry. I did look these names up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to keep them all straight. Lucreshu, petrash Canoe, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he and Menu. They plan to basically take Antonescue

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<v Speaker 1>down by inviting him over for dinner and having the

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<v Speaker 1>king be like, hey, Antonescue, you're under arrest now. Funk

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<v Speaker 1>off um, which is kind of a funny way to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Yea exactly on party. Come over, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. We just want to all hang out together

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<v Speaker 1>in a room. It's gonna be totally cool. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you don't agree on a lot of stuff? Come on

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<v Speaker 1>over to my house, Come on in a room. Leave

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<v Speaker 1>your guards, leave your guards, um. And it's very funny.

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<v Speaker 1>The coup actually works great. And there's this moment where

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like, hey, Antonescue, do you have a gun?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, I don't need a gun. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my authority doesn't derive from a gun. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, okay, cool, well you're under arrest and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have you executed and they do. It works

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<v Speaker 1>out great, This part works out really good for them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>brought that gun and and the National Peasants Party guy

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<v Speaker 1>Manu is kind of an old man at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, look, man running a coup government, that's young

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<v Speaker 1>man's work. So this communist petresh Canoe winds up being

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the first person to take a public role

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<v Speaker 1>in the new government. And he's actually a pretty reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>dude all things considered, Like I think he handles this

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<v Speaker 1>about as well as it could have been handled. Um. So.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that happens, though, is because this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is kind of your public facing dude, and the

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<v Speaker 1>National Peasants Party, all of the Liberals who are much

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<v Speaker 1>more numerous, and the royal like folks who are much

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<v Speaker 1>more numerous and actually in like the you would suspect

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<v Speaker 1>be the people who would wind up in charge are

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of scared, right because they're they've just cooed

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<v Speaker 1>the other leader. There's still a bunch of German soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>in the country, so they don't want to make too

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<v Speaker 1>much of a public stink. Meanwhile, the Communists, even though

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<v Speaker 1>there's not many of them, these guys have been beaten

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<v Speaker 1>and in prisoned and starved. They're all like hard sons

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<v Speaker 1>of bitches. So the Communists are like, why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>just immediately take power? Um, which they do, and it

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<v Speaker 1>works pretty well for them. They they get in and

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<v Speaker 1>they basically like put themselves in a lot of positions

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to to to kind of give them

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to control the direction of Romania at least

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<v Speaker 1>help with that. Obviously, the fact that the Soviets are

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<v Speaker 1>so nearby helps too, and the Romanian or the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Army enters Romania soon after that. So the Communists kind

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<v Speaker 1>of despite the fact that up until this point there

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<v Speaker 1>had been very few of them and they'd had no power,

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<v Speaker 1>when World War two wins, they're kind of the preeminent

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<v Speaker 1>power in Romania. Um and Stalin. Yeah they stepped up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they stepped up. And they have an election and show

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<v Speaker 1>Cescu gets to practice his faking at election skills, um

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<v Speaker 1>and and goes about making sure that the Communists win

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<v Speaker 1>that election, even though again there've been about seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>of them in the company prior in the country prior

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<v Speaker 1>to to World War Two. To be fair, if the

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<v Speaker 1>people that actually stepped up to rule are running for something,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be the worst to be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll vote for the guys that actually said

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<v Speaker 1>they yeah no again. And it's it's not an unreasonable

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<v Speaker 1>thing that as as Romanians in World War Two, you

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<v Speaker 1>would see the Communists taking over, given everything that happened

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<v Speaker 1>with the Nazis, and be like, maybe this will work

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<v Speaker 1>out better. Hey, not like anything else had been working

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<v Speaker 1>very well. It's the opposite of a Nazi economist. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>could go wrong. Let's let's try it. Um So Georgiu

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<v Speaker 1>Day that that um, that peasant who had been like

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<v Speaker 1>the uh the leader of that railroad union, um that

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<v Speaker 1>had done all those strikes that chess Cou had helped support.

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<v Speaker 1>He becomes one of the leaders of the country. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's a bunch of this is it's more complicated

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<v Speaker 1>than that Anna Poker. That other lady is also kind

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the people who's running Romania initially after

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<v Speaker 1>the communist kind of take over. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how it goes. You get your show trials, you

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<v Speaker 1>get your people start getting put in jail and locked

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<v Speaker 1>up on bullshit charges, and over the course of time,

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<v Speaker 1>George you Day kind of consolidates his power. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that this means is that he executes this

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<v Speaker 1>guy pro trash Canu who got the king out, who

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<v Speaker 1>helped overthrow or who not the gout the king out,

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<v Speaker 1>who got um antonescu at who like overthrew the dictator.

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<v Speaker 1>They they come after this guy on bullshit charges and

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<v Speaker 1>they kill his ass um It's so crazy when it's

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<v Speaker 1>just such a throwaway thing and like and then they

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<v Speaker 1>executed that guy. Let's move on. That cool dude you

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<v Speaker 1>know that cool dude who was the communist that Stalin

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<v Speaker 1>picked to take over and they fucking killed his ass. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and Parker, they get rid of Poker. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's as ugly as it usually is when

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<v Speaker 1>a guy consolidates power. Um, it's it's a real end

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<v Speaker 1>of the Godfather energy when that ship happens. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a gradual process. Um. And Nikolai Chachescu is a quiet

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<v Speaker 1>figure for most of this. He does not stick his

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<v Speaker 1>neck out, He does not try to take any big

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<v Speaker 1>fancy jobs for himself. He sticks close today and he

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of like just sort of keeps him as

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<v Speaker 1>happy as possible. And I'm gonna I'm gonna read a

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<v Speaker 1>quote from journalist cattle and Gruya here under the protective

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<v Speaker 1>wing of day, whose favorite he had become. While in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>Chauchescu struggled, flattered, adapted, worked and raised himself up step

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<v Speaker 1>by step, tenaciously, stubbornly and with a real instinct for power.

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<v Speaker 1>At seven, he was the leader of the Communist Youth

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<v Speaker 1>Organization and later of the Central Committee of the Romanian

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<v Speaker 1>Workers Party. At twenty eight, party instructor in Constanta and

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<v Speaker 1>Olinia at twenty nine deputy in the Grand National Assembly,

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<v Speaker 1>after he had mobilized motorized troops in the electoral precinct

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<v Speaker 1>to convince electors to place ballots in the urns which

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<v Speaker 1>had already been filled by the communists ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 1>His meteoric rise continued, culminating with his election at age

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven to the Politbureau as Minister of the Interior. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this gave him a lot of control over what's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Securitat, which is Romania's answer to the k g B,

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<v Speaker 1>which means he is in a position to put people

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<v Speaker 1>into the Securitat, the organization that is surveilling everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the country, um sweeping out corruption. Good position to be

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<v Speaker 1>in if you're a guy like this and everyone's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, well, yeah, we want like, you want someone

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<v Speaker 1>dumb and pliable in that job if you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be running that if you're someone with power in

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<v Speaker 1>the Romanian communist infrastructure and you can't be doing that job,

0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you want a dumb person in that job, right, You

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<v Speaker 1>want somebody who, like you feel like it's controllable, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone kind of feels like Chowchesku is just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>this like not a very serious person, right, So they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>give him the job. You know, what's the worst that

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<v Speaker 1>could happen. He's not that, he's not that dangerous. Um. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the worst that could happen is pretty rough. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst that could happen is about to occur. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, everyone's like, yeah, you know, at least,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if someone's going to have that job and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be me, we might as well have

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<v Speaker 1>it be this lick spell who kisses everybody's ass and

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<v Speaker 1>who wasn't very threatening. He's not, you know, really worth fearing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not worth fearing as long as George you

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<v Speaker 1>day is is healthy and and doing good. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>given that he is an old time communist street fighter

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<v Speaker 1>who smokes like a chimney, surely he's going to live forever. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>That's classic. Yeah yeah. Um. So, as Nikolai climbed the

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<v Speaker 1>ranks of the Romanian Communist Party, there's this combination of

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<v Speaker 1>as kissing and convincing everyone else that he's too dumb

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<v Speaker 1>to be a threat. His wife Elena experienced numerous career

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<v Speaker 1>benefits as well. All of the different wonderful things that

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<v Speaker 1>nepotism can provide to you. He's a plus wife guy.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Oh my god, you have never wifed

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<v Speaker 1>a guy as hard as this guy. Wife's that shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to this guy for just being just like a

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<v Speaker 1>He's like the Rob Zombie of wife guys of Romania,

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<v Speaker 1>just being like, I don't care what you can or

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<v Speaker 1>can't you. I'm still giving you opportunities. I wish, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could. Given that this is Romania, I should

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to make a Dragula joke, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really not sure how to work it out. I

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<v Speaker 1>threw your curveball with that. It's not it's not coming

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Jeff. It's not coming to me, And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel ashamed for that. Um, But you at home make

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<v Speaker 1>your own, make your own joke about Rob Zombies, hit song,

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<v Speaker 1>Dracula and the Romanian historical figure Dracula. Well, Jeff, and

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to some ads, Jeff, that that all got

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<v Speaker 1>me pumped up. I'm gonna be honest, man, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to consume all of the things that were just advertised,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna slam them in the back of my Dracula was

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<v Speaker 1>that his car was that Rob Zombies car. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the monster's car, isn't it. Are you serious? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>song about the monsters? Yeah? I think Dracula is the

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<v Speaker 1>name of their car. That's cool. It's cool because he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a cool, heavy song about Are you serious? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a reason, oh my god. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is based on the drag racer Dracula for the Munsters. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know how I know that really well, aside

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<v Speaker 1>from the fact that I'm I I study this ship,

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<v Speaker 1>the pinball machine, the munsters pinball machine has a dragula thing. Wow. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>uh that's right. That's kind of a baffling piece of

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture. Why did that song go so hard if

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the Munsters? Because Rob Zombie did it. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that makes sense. It does make sense that Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Zombie would do a song about the munsters and he

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<v Speaker 1>would go hard. Yeah, and he would, he would he

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<v Speaker 1>would go baffling lee hard with it. Speaking of baffling

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<v Speaker 1>Lee hard, Nikolai is baffling Lee hard for his wife Elena,

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<v Speaker 1>who sucks. Ass um. That actually worked out pretty well,

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<v Speaker 1>so nailed it. There we go. As Nikolai climbs the

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<v Speaker 1>ranks of the party, He's he starts putting his wife

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<v Speaker 1>in jobs. Now, at first, she's just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>raising their kids and stuff while he's in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on his way up to the polit bureau. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's got this ambition to be a chemist from the

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<v Speaker 1>time when she worked in a legal pill mill um.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks it would be really cool to be to

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<v Speaker 1>be in chemistry, So she takes starts taking college classes

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<v Speaker 1>in chemistry, hoping that she can achieve her lifelong dream

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<v Speaker 1>of being a serious scientist. Now, in most cases, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a perfectly respectable thing to do. In fact, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of any any woman who could raise three kids,

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<v Speaker 1>support her powerful husband in his career, and get a

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<v Speaker 1>complex degree in science, that's incredibly impressive. Yeah. Absolutely. Unfortunately,

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Elena was nearly illiterate, and she had no interest in

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<v Speaker 1>actually being taught anything by the tutors that Nikolai got

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<v Speaker 1>for her, who become increasingly desperate with the fact that like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we have to we have to teach

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>her how to be a chemist, and she does not

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<v Speaker 1>want to read anything or like chemist. Yeah, she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to put on a white coat and poor things and beakers. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it like that? I think it's a Romanian textbook.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like a Roman or there's a textbook I forget

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<v Speaker 1>what country it's in that has Jesse Pinkman on the

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<v Speaker 1>cover of their chemistry thing of him. Uh, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>that up right now. Um. Yeah, Jesse Pinkman textbook cover

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>should give you exactly worth if it's from Romania. That's

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the symmetry for that is unbelievable. Yeah, because it is

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>just satisfying to see because you know, it's just a

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>cursory Google image search for chemist and that one clearly

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>has the best look because it was, you know, directed

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>by this I think that language is Romanian. Um, it's

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>definitely not Romane. Oh Sri Lanka Okay, Okay, that's just shame.

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Um that that would have been beautiful Jesse Pinkman. Jesse

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Pinkman actually is objectively a better chemist than Elena czechesscu Um,

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>which is unfortunate because of the job she's about to have.

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>So these tutors who are just struggling to teach her

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.919
<v Speaker 1>something get a brief reprieve because she's caught cheating on

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>her exams and expelled from university in the mid nineteen fifties.

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>But By nineteen six, Nikki is in the polit bureau.

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>So you can't keep her out of university just because

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 1>she's cheating in a danger to herself and everyone else

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>around her. So he forces the Scientific Establishment of Romania

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to give his wife a job. She's made a junior

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>technician at the Central Institute for Chemical Research, and then

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>she gets promoted to run the institute five years later.

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Now again, her credentials are was kicked out of college

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>for cheating on her exams at this point, so five

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>years it's time to learn r Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can.

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>You learn that. You learn most of that ship on

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the jet, like Jesse Pinkman. Actually, you're gonna learn most

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>of that ship on the job anyway, right. He didn't

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>do good in school either, he flunked out. And look

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>at how Jesse did. Yeah, exactly. So she was as

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>bad at this as you would expect. When her scientists

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>would request supplies of ethyl alcohol, which is needed for

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of experiments, she would turn them down with

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a note that said she knew they just wanted the

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.919
<v Speaker 1>alcohol to get drunk with. Now I'm gonna say this

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>for al I'm gonna I'm sure she wasn't wrong a

0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of the time. This is this, this is

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the easter in block right, Like I'm sure of the

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>time she wasn't wrong. Um. But what's really funny is

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the researchers realized that, like, Okay, if we request ethyl alcohol,

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna like really drill us and turn us down,

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>turn it down because she thinks we're gonna drink. So

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they put in the exact same request, but they used

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the chemical name for ethyl alcohol, and Elena would grant

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it every time because she doesn't know anything about chemistry

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>because she's a dumb guy. Yeah yeah, yeah. And now

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>over time she she is aware that she doesn't know

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>anything about chemistry, and she has impostor syndrome because she's

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 1>an impostor, because she's actually a look, impostor syndrome is

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>not always wrong. Some people who have impostor syndrome are impostors.

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And Elena starts avoiding actual chemists, you know, the people

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>she's managing, because conversations with them would inevitably reveal she

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>had no idea what she was doing. My favorite example

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of this was how she pronounced c O two, calling

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it coutu or doi in in Romanian, right, so she

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't call it kutu, but like she called it kudi,

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>which is the equivalent of calling c O to couto, right,

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>because she's just kind of sounding it out because she

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know how you're supposed to read um chemical names. Now,

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Cody in Romanian is a slang term, or it's at

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>least close to a slang term for someone who has

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a huge ass, right, Like it's it's like a dump

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>truck ass like cody. That's kind of what that means.

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>So since Elena herself has kind of a big butt,

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>again this is what historians will say, her scientists started

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>calling her kudi behind her back, like big ass. Basically, um,

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>she got that, Yeah, she's she is caked up uranium baby. Yeah, well,

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>please don't let her around the urane. That would have

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>gone very badly for everybody. Yeah, we could have had

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>a Chernobyl incident. Yeah. So, like most incompetent people who

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>wind up at the heads of large complex organizations, Elena

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>decided to focus her efforts on the one thing she

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>knew how to do, which was deny people resources in

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>order to save money. Right with bile as Yeah, yeah,

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you swagger in with that big butt and start cutting money. Um.

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>It is kind of the thing that if you don't

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>know anything about an organization and you're promoted to lead it,

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>just start trimming the budget, you know. Um, you can

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>always make it look like you know what you're doing then,

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and you can funk with the people who are actually

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>good at their jobs. This is not a thing that

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you or I or any of the people we've ever

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>worked with have had experience with ever in our careers.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Not It only happens in communist states. So that's good.

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>It's good that we are immune from that here. Now,

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>this basically drives all Romanian efforts in the chemical sciences

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>into the ground, and it's stymies basically all of their

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>progress on chemistry and ship. But her institute did spend

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>less money over time, so that's good. Um, probably probably

0:28:55.480 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>worthwhile now that the chemistry labs that look making it

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>at a low budget. You say that, but I'm waiting

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>for the James Cameron uh to to appear in this story.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>There's that we We still don't have that here, probably

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>because Elina would have had him purged. Yeah, maybe maybe

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that would have been for the best. Would a would

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a would have saved us that whole period of time

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and which everyone thought three D tv s were going

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to be a thing. Sorry, but I will not sacrifice

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>true lies. No, yeah, that is that is true lies. Uh.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Strange Days films. Oh, he was involved in those. Huh

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. Um, I wonder if people know that James Cameron. Right. Yeah,

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I was just yeah, I'm really confused, and I'm like,

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>did I say a wrong name? No, David Fincher, And

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know he did Terminator too. I do

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of want to see David Fincher's Terminator too, would

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>be something, right. Yeah. So, in person, Elena was extremely

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>anti social and quick to anger. She was jealous of

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>any of the other polit bureau wives she thought were

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>more attractive than her, and she preferred to spend her

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>time avoiding social engagements. Altogether, she was disgusted with the

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>other wives because they were traditional homemakers, whereas she had

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a career of her own. Now, the fact that her

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>career was an absolute sham does not seem to have

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>upset Alda. It is also worth noting that she was

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>a pretty piss poor mother. Um. Look some people with

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>with well, with a large ass um that's that everything

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>like that's all up to up to personal up to

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>personal judgment. Um. So, Nikko cho Chesku, her son born

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in ninety one, was the baby of the family and

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>from the jump seemed to realize that his parents position

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>made him untouchable. He was disruptive in school, He threatened

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>teachers and classmates. No one could discipline him. He would

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>just start punching teachers and students whenever he got angry.

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Because you know, his dad is helping to run the country,

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody can actually punish him. It's a good situation. We

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>call this like the U We call this the day

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and Kusa route. Right, that's kind of where if you

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>believe now, I'll say this. A lot of our sources

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>on Niku chow Chesku come from a guy who defects

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>from the country after running the secret police. So there's

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>some debate over how accurate all this is because maybe

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>he has a vested interest in making the family sound

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>worse than they were at that. That said, the idea

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that Nikko chow Chesko would be a violent asshole um

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>not a not a big stretch either. So I don't know,

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, grain assault m According to this guy who

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>later defects who we will talk about later. At age fourteen,

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Nikko rapes one of his classmates. Um. At age fifteen,

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>he gets his first boat and he drunk drives it

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>before he gets his first car at sixteen, at which

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>point he becomes one of the leading causes of car

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>accidents in the capital of Bucharest. Um, because he is

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>just a you know, he's he's he's a dictator's son, right,

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>This is all pretty standard dictator's good stuff. Go than

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>golden weapons and and you know side palace isn't ship. Yeah,

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have the panash of Uday and kusay, So

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>he's not I don't know, firing a golden machine gun

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and do a crowd at a party. Um. But he

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>is crashing his car constantly, so he's got that. He's

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>got that good Assad energy, the Assad kid who fucking

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>killed himself in his car drunk driving. Um, he's he's

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that kind of dictator's son as opposed to more of

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the more of the days dash day esque variety. So

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.719
<v Speaker 1>for the first decade or so that Communist Romania is

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>doing its thing, the Soviet Union keeps a bunch of

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>soldiers in country, right, because you know, they want to

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>make sure things keep going, keep going in a direction

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>they're comfortable with. Now, this means that for a while

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Romania's Communist Party is a subservient branch of the party

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>in Moscow. George U. Day, who's running the country, and

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>his polit bureau are not happy about this, especially once

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Stalin dies and Khrushchev takes power, because Cruise have kind

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of repudiates some of the stuff that Stalin had done. Right,

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>he gives the speech where he's like, hey, you know

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>what everything Stalin did wasn't perfect. Um, you know what

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it was George you Day? Where I oh, oh, George

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>U Day. Yeah, George you Day, Georgie. That's that is

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>my personal headcanon, like fantasy fiction mash up between George

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Bush and Uday Husain Um mainly or actually, no, you

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>know that's that. Yeah, that's the that's that's what I'm

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>shipping them together, right, that's what you'd call it. We

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>shipped them. Yeah, we should, Yeah, ship George Bush and

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Uday Hussein somebody somebody gets some fan art going, use

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>that chat GPT, make it real horny and make sure

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>they're both caked up in honor of Elena. Just just

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>huge asses on both Day and George Bush and just

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>sweaty against each other. Get him in there. Yeah, and

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 1>then you would have George H. W. Bush and Saddam

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Hussein looking down on them both from heaven, smiling, smiling,

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>proud George as George Bush paints Day done up like

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the chick from Titanic, but instead of the heart of

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the ocean, it's a golden ak forty seven. Somebody do this.

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>You know you've got, You've got. It's perfect, perfect opportunity

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>for giving you God. Yeah, and do it. Do it? Aii.

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 1>So everyone has really fucked up, unsettling hands. George Bush

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>has like three long fingers painting it'll be great. Oh

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>so I'll be able to call you a loser on

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the internet for doing that. Let's let's get a T

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>shirt out. I mean that's up to Sophie. Sophie make

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>the merch. Yeah, I think I think this will She's

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>still there. I'm here only if the people demand it.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the people are going to demand it, not

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>want you demand Yeah. So um yes. As a Stalinist,

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Day is not thrilled by the fact that Kruschev has

0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>repudiated uh some of the stuff that Stalin did Um.

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>So they're all kind of figuring, how can we get

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more autonomy from the U. S. S R.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>How can we get these soldiers out of our country,

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>How can we kind of like take actual control for ourselves.

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen fifty six, protests and Hungary boil up into

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>an uprising, which is again right next to Romania. Now

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that includes the destruction. Like in these protests and Hungary,

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>they destroy a bunch of statues of Stalin and Budapest.

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Unrest spreads widely from there and it reaches Romania by

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>October of that year. You know the way protests do.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>You get protests in one capital, they move over to

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the other soon. And I'm gonna quote in a right

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>from a rite up by the Wilson Center here. On

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the twenty ninth of October, railwaymen in Bucharest held a

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>protest meeting calling for improved conditions of work, and in

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the asse there were street demonstrations in supportive better's food

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>supplies and exceptionally poor harvest had drastically cut food production

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and cues, and Bucharest and the other main towns were commonplace.

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Day and a Romanian delegation cut short of visit

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to Yugoslavia in the October to address the crisis. Thousands

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>of arrests were made in the centers of protest, especially

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 1>among students who participated in meetings in the Transylvanian capital

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>of Clues and tim Assura. One of the largest meetings

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>took place in Bucharest on the thirty of of October.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>The Timnasaura, Radia and the Assy regions were placed under

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>military rule as Soviet troops were brought in across the

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Romanian border in the east and concentrated on the frontier

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>with Hungary in the west. Important question did that postpone

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>trick or treating? I don't think there's a lot of

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>trick or treating going on in Georgia Day's Romania, So

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that's the time for draculas. It would have been perfect.

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>It would have been perfect, um. But I think it's

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>interesting here. One of the things you're seeing Georgiu Day

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>is a railway man like running like was the guy

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>organizing in a legal railway union and spent a shipload

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>of his life in prison for doing so, And now

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>that he's in charge, he's cracking down on protests by

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>railwaymen and throwing a bunch of them in prison. Always fun.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>How that keeps happening? It's the circle of life. Yeah,

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful. It's beautiful in its own way. Um we

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>are yeah yeah, or it's the flat circle thing. So

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the Hungarian crisis concludes when Soviet sent tanks into Budapest

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to crush the crush the uprising. And this actually, the

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Romanian Communist Party is going to benefit from this hugely

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>because Soviet troops helped them stop protests in their own

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>capital from turning into an uprising. And the fact that

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the Romanian regime is so supportive of crushing these protests

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>means the USSR is like, well, we can't trust Hungary

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>because we just had to send in tanks here, but

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>we can trust Romania. And so now the Romanian Communist

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Party and Georgiu Day are like, hey, you know, we

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>don't need all these troops in our country. Khrushchev, you

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>know you guys, you guys need those dudes in Hungary.

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you send all those troops to Hungary and

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and we'll take care of Romania. You know, we can.

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>We can keep a lock on things ourselves. Um So

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in this works, the Soviets withdraw troops from Romania, and

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 1>as a result, Romania is going to have a lot

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>more autonomy than other country. These who are kind of

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>in the Warsaw Pact in the region are going to

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>have in this period of time. So in nineteen sixty five,

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Georgio Day gets sick with lung cancer, which is a

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>huge surprise for a for a communist dictator in the

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:19.280
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties to have lung cancer just absolutely shocking stuff

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>because because that was back when cigarettes were really good

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah, this is back when doctors recommended them.

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's he's smoking the good ones, he's smoking

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the lucky strikes, which which I'm sure every yeah, every

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>dum listening. The air quality was general, like the air

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>quality was roughly the same as like a cigar lounge. Yeah. Yeah.

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>The way they would do it is they would just

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>light giant piles of lead on fire every time you

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>bought gasoline and celebration. Uh, that's what we were all doing.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>It's why everyone liked brain. Like, we found these rocks

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 1>that radiate heat, so we've been just hovering around them

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>like that one episode of Star Trek. Yeah. Um, so

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 1>org you day gets his ask some lung cancer, um and,

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's he's the whoever it becomes clear that like

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>whoever is going to inherit power from him, is going

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to inherit a really centralized, strong state in Romania that's

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>more independent than basically any of the other countries in

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Block other than Yugoslavia. I mean, whether or

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>not you want anyway whatever, it's it's it's a lot

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>of power. Who that who coming into whoever takes over

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>for this guy? Um And because he had been such

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>a private man, effectively, right, he was number one in

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>total power. But he was also because he was in

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 1>power able to hide the fact that he was sick

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>until the signs of the fact that he had terminal

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 1>cancer got too obvious to ignore. Like you read that

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like a baseball stat you like, you know, he was

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>actually number one in total power. Yeah, he was Mark McGuire,

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>he was the Mark McGuire of of of the Warsaw Pact.

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people right down to the well, I mean,

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>cigarette were steroids for for for dictators. But yeah, if

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you're a member of a of a of a communist dictatorship,

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you're yeah, you're really the performance enhancing cigarettes really get

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>through you. I guess we'd probably say that Tito was

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the Nolan Ryan, just because I think he probably could

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>have cold cocked anybody else in the Warsaw Pact if

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>he had to. Yeah. Yeah, and longevity, Yeah, and longevity.

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:25.919
<v Speaker 1>He really did stay in there a while. And Ryan

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>throwing a hundred three four years old, that's something that

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>is Tito energy. Yeah. So chow Chessco, you know the

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 1>fact that so first off, like all of these other guys,

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>because everyone in the polit bureau right either has someone

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>else that they want to take over for Georgie you

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>day or once that job themselves. Um, but they don't

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 1>realize he's sick until he's very close to death. Now,

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>chow Chesscu again, he's the ass kisser. So he's in

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>there daily. He's seeing Georgiu day all the time. He's

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>talking to him all the time. How you doing. Yeah,

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you're looking like you're losing white man and hair and

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 1>some skin. Yeah, you seem to be wasting away more.

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>You want to sign this piece of paper real quick,

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.359
<v Speaker 1>don't ask about it. Yeah, you're good. So, um, all

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>of these other guys kind of suddenly find themselves scrambling

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to set themselves up for the

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>post George you Day world, whereas Chachesko knows exactly what's

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>going on. And I'm gonna quote from Paul Kinyon again here.

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 1>The list of possible successors was short. The nine member

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>polit bureau was hardly overburdened with talent. Five of them

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>had barely completed elementary school, and three were former rail

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>workers from George you Day's union days who had been

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>elevated for loyalty, not literacy. Not only had George you

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Day purged the upper echelance of the party, he had

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>impoverished the entire country with his anti intellectual policies. Children

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.720
<v Speaker 1>of political detainees were denied a university education, their extended

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>families were considered stigmatized. Schools were barred from teaching critical thought.

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Academics were regularly arrested and detained. All this was designed

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>to eradicate opposition, but had inadvertent starved the Romanian Communist

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Party of even moderately capable minds. You know, so maybe

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:12.240
<v Speaker 1>don't purge people who know how to do things um

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 1>from your although it does make it easier to stay

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>in power. So it really, it's a it's a it's

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a tough situation that they were in. Um yeah, yeah

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 1>that that kind of happens when somebody withers away and

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>dies it is surrounded by morons. Yeah, this is this

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 1>is actually a version. I mean it's interesting because Georgie

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Day is a stolidist. This is basically the same kind

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>of thing that happens. It's a little less severe, right,

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the pollit Bureau that kind of stalin uh leaves behind

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>are more capable than the guys that Georgie Day had

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 1>around him. Um, but yeah, it is. It's interesting kind

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>of some of the similarities here. But you know who

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>else has carried out a series of anti intellectual purges

0:42:56.360 --> 0:43:00.359
<v Speaker 1>in order to ensure that no one capable can force

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>them from their position of power. Pot pol Pot who

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>is the primary sponsor of this podcast? Oh wow yeah yeah, no, no,

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>we got the big pol pot coickwork company, pol pots Pots. Yeah.

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 1>He's selling cast iron skillets and you do not want

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to see what happens if you wash one of them

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>with soap. It's either that or it's like some clever

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>weed brand. M yeah. Um, it'll make you so stupid,

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 1>you'll be anti intellectual. Just go ahead, and if you've

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>got some of this weed, just throw your glasses away.

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't need them. Um, it'll I don't know, I

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to keep making pull. Welcome to the

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:48.720
<v Speaker 1>smoking fields. Everybody that's a boy, yeah, will be stoned

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>out of your skull. Let's let's get let's break two ads. Now. Ah,

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>we're back, and we're we're talking poll pot um. Well,

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.800
<v Speaker 1>no we're not. We're talking the end of George you

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Day's time in charge of the Romanian Communist Party, So

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>joking about pol pot we're talking about just like this

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>episode isn't horrible enough plot? Yeah yeah, yeah, bring a

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit of pol pot in there. So let's have

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a holiday in Romania. Yeah yeah. Now, there are only

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>three veteran members of the Pollit Bureau who had any

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>degree of competence um, but all of them had with

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the party considered to be unhealthy origins. One of them

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 1>is German, another's Ukrainian, and the third is Bulgarian. And

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>as Catalan Gruia notes, the three prerequisites for the future

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>leader were one to be Romanian, two to be an activist,

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and three to be part of the working class. So

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>no one in power likes Nikolai or considers him a

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>good choice to replace Georgie. But Nikki had maneuvered himself

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>into an incredible position um and it was one that

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>surprised his colleagues. His job in the Pollit Bureau at

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this point was secretary for organization in Cadras, and this

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a boring job. It's pretty low prestige

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>within the pullet bureau jobs, but it provides them with

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.879
<v Speaker 1>this opportunity to make a lot of little decisions about

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>who's in position where, who's booking the boss's schedule every day, right,

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>who gets to like set George you day schedule, all

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 1>these different people, who's working in his house. He's kind

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 1>of picking all of these low level functionaries. And it

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>turns out when that's your job, when your job is

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to hook a bunch of people up with these little

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.959
<v Speaker 1>jobs that determine everything about the boss's life, you kind

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of control the boss's life, especially when he's dying of

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>cancer and doesn't have as much wherewithal as he used

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to have. Um So, because Nikki is in charge of

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the people making the boss's schedule, Nikki effectively has control

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>over who gets to visit George you Day every day,

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and once the man gets sick, Nikki is able to

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>exercise near total control over who sees the boss and win.

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 1>The last weeks of George you Day's life where a

0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>constant series of pullar bureau members trying to get him

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to confirm his successor, and Shochesco being like, now he's

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>sick today, he doesn't want to talk politics. Don't come

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>around another day. You know, you just gotta let him,

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>let him chill out um. And Ko is doing this

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 1>because he knows he's in the best position. He's a Romanian,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's got peasant credentials. He's the best positioned

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 1>to take over for for for George you Day. And

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>so if you can just kind of keep the others

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>away from him and stop them from getting him to

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.720
<v Speaker 1>agree to make someone else's successor, he's got a pretty

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>good shot of getting the job. Now, George you Day,

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>despite his illness, realizes what Nikki is doing and he

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>sees it as a major threat to the country. And

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of a thing that happens with Lenin

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and Stalin. Right when Lennon's on his last legs, He's like,

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:44.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't really think this Stalin guy is a good

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>job to follow me up. I think this could go badly.

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, excellent point, I'm going to Mexico. Yeah, yeah,

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>that's how that went. So in snatched conversations with old comrades,

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:01.240
<v Speaker 1>he warns of Nicolai's feverish maneuver rings, but the boss

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.800
<v Speaker 1>has already been out maneuvered himself. While half the Pullet

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Bureau was angling to try and get Georgie to make

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>it a selection, Nikolai is getting the other half to

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.280
<v Speaker 1>line up behind him, and he promises them, Hey, guys,

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.839
<v Speaker 1>you know me, I'm a blank slate, right, you could

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>just make me do whatever. I'll do anything you want.

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, It's fine. Yeah, I'll be your guy. I'm

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.720
<v Speaker 1>a I'm a fun time guy. I just want the title.

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, you guys will be the power behind the throne.

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.959
<v Speaker 1>I just want the title. Um, just a fun time

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:32.479
<v Speaker 1>and guy, ain't nothing wrong with me again. Georgiu Day

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>has pretty systematically purged anyone most of the people who

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 1>are good at things, so all of the other Pollet

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Bureau guys are like, well, this seems reasonable. Why would

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>he lie about this? Why would somebody in a position

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>of power. Lie, It's like, dude, what what war do

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you think you just lived through by wild wires? Uh?

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 1>So this works incredibly well for chat CHESSCO. The Boss

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>dies on Mark nineteenth, nineteen sixty five, and CCO is

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 1>shortly thereafter confirmed as Prime Secretary of the Romanian Socialist Republic,

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.399
<v Speaker 1>which is a new term. They've been using other terms

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>for their leaders before that. He decides, I'm going to

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>pick a new title, you know, new guy at forties seven,

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he's the youngest leader in Europe at the

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:25.919
<v Speaker 1>time when he when he gets power out there is it? Yeah, yeah,

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 1>he's doing good. These guys. Everyone else kind of running

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>communist countries in Europe at this point time is a

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>lot older. He's he's young, he's considered handsome, he's a

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he's the JFK of communism, right. That is actually kind

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of how he's viewed when he takes power. Um yeah yeah,

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>And and to be fair, he does pretty well at first.

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>You actually wouldn't be there were not initially warning signs

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>that like this was gonna be worse than kind of

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 1>anything going on around him. Right, It's like, hey, this guy,

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to do like like a genocide or anything, right,

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, not per pussfully. So despite being essentially he

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 1>is an old fashioned stalidist, and he's pretty consistent about

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>being a stalinist, particularly like economically most of his career. Um,

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>but he supports a lot more liberalization than Georgia Day

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>had allowed. He opens up some space for private enterprise.

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Mostly what he does is he kind of opens up

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:24.320
<v Speaker 1>space for foreign trade, which means Western music is getting

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 1>in right. People are getting to listen to like rock

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and roll in that kind of stuff, which is cool.

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Some movies and some TV is getting in um and

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that makes people really happy. He also provides a little

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>bit more space for public speech. He allows newspapers you

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>can't criticize the system, but you can kind of poke

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 1>around edges of like certain programs that might not work. Well.

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot more than they've had right under George

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you Day, because it's a pretty pretty strict system under him.

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.919
<v Speaker 1>So he he liberalizes quite a lot. And people are

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>really optimistic. This is actually considered a lot of Romanians.

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 1>It was like it was not a bad time, you know, Um,

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>there's there's plenty of food. Uh. People are like the

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 1>state was actually doing a decent job of taking care

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of people. It's it, It seems it seems good everything.

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's just the pretty cool breeze of a dude.

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>None of these guys ever stopped there, um, And part

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>of why things are good is that he kind of

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>wants he's part of part of One of the things

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Chichisco is doing is like, like anyone who takes power

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.799
<v Speaker 1>in a system like this, you gotta consolidate it, Nicks, right,

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you gotta push out your rivals, you gotta jail some people.

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>You've got to force them out of their jobs so

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 1>you can take total power. And you don't want to

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 1>be cracking down on the people well that's going on, right.

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>You want to keep them happy while you're taking power.

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>And so that's kind of part of what he's doing

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 1>in this period of time, and in fairly short order,

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>he forces out all of these guys who'd agreed to

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>vote for him to take power. He pushes them out

0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of their jobs, right, Um, some of us he does.

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 1>He opens an investigation into the purchase that had been

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>carried out by George you Day, that dude Petronascu who

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>had forced the who had taken out Antonescu. He he

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:10.879
<v Speaker 1>doesn't investigation into that guy's execution, and obviously Chowchescu had

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 1>helped with that, right, he had been a part of

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>killing that guy and purging all of these people. But

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>now he's being like, yeah, we're gonna look into this.

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 1>That was really bad. We gotta get these bad actors

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>out of here. You know. It's like when the police

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 1>are like, we're going to have an internal on this

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 1>massacre that we did. Well, it turns out we found

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 1>out we did nothing wrong. So yeah, it was just

0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>those five guys who happened to be rivals to my power.

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Dollars more please, Yeah, yeah, this is it's it's very

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>much that sort of thing. Um. And while he does this,

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:46.239
<v Speaker 1>he also supports a drive towards Romanian nationalism, and he's

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.720
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna back anything that he thinks will make people

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 1>feel an identity separate from the Soviet Union and one

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>of them. Because again, while he's he is a strong

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>communist by this point, and and so is obviously the

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Romanian Communist Party is a communist party. That doesn't mean

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that there like I want to be part of Russia, right,

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 1>This is actually a big thing for a lot of

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 1>countries in the Warsaw Act, and Romania has this, as

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:13.280
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about, this kind of long history of being

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:16.560
<v Speaker 1>oppressed and attacked by their neighbors. So they don't he

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want and obviously it's bad for his own personal

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 1>power to if everyone in Romania feels like we're just

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a satellite of Russia. So he starts backing. He starts

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 1>like really supporting a series of like books and uh uh,

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of questionable historical tracts about guys like vlad Dracula

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and the Emperor traction, who he kind of turns into

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.879
<v Speaker 1>a Romanian um. And what's really funny is like, while

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 1>they while he's kind of backing guys like Dracula and

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Emperor Trajan, they have to be framed as proto socialist right.

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>They're not communists obviously because communism didn't exist back when

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Draculas walking around. But you have to say that like

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Dracula actually, when you think about it, was like a

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 1>pre socialist leader. You know, he had a lot of

0:52:56.600 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>these tendencies that we that we've now figured out as commune.

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 1>This So like the Emperor Trasian, classic proto socialist right

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 1>really was big about redistribution of wealth. What a weird

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 1>what a weird person to try to reframe the the

0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>emperor Trasian socialist here the people's hero. Yeah, it's like,

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you know who actually was a good person, Elizabeth Battery.

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about how great she was. She loved unions,

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get enough of unions. She was just the union darling.

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah. Um, so obviously all of this was was

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>very questionable from historic standpoint, But again, why is anyone

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>going to complain for one thing? At least you're getting

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to read more books now, you know more the papers

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.359
<v Speaker 1>are out there, You're getting some music. Um, life is

0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:47.879
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. What do you think the most popular song

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>was when they're hitting what? Um? I know, I don't

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>think I know if it's in sixty five quite yet,

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>but the fucking Stones were pretty popular in Romania. Yeah,

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously, um, the Romanian stonesiction it's just like

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the beach Boys. Because it is the sixties. I'm sure

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the beach boys are fucking blowing up out there. U

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 1>s in big popular. Yes, Romania's famous surf culture. Yeah,

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they really get heavily until like that you Yeah, Um,

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:32.920
<v Speaker 1>so Romania had been one of the major bread baskets

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of the region. Um. It was actually the Soviet Union

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.360
<v Speaker 1>back when they were still kind of occupying the country.

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Their pitch to the Romanian Communist Party was like, Hey,

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:46.359
<v Speaker 1>we'll do all this industrializing you guys basically grow all

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>of the food for the Warsaw Pact, right, that'll why

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 1>don't we just do it that way? And the Georgia

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Day had kind of been like, well, no, i'm a

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a railway union man. I want to

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.239
<v Speaker 1>industrialize too. I don't want us to just be your

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 1>garden base. Sickly, So he had industrialized the company the

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 1>country pretty rapidly. And one of the reasons why a

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of Romanians suspected that he had been because because

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 1>there's this this conspiracy theory develops that he had gotten

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>cancer because the Russians had poisoned him because he was

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>so independent. I don't know how likely this is. There's

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of reasons why George you Day might have

0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 1>gotten cancer. Um, but anyway, there's a myriad that hard

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to get cancer being that guy. Um, though I would

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I will add that Romania. I looked up some of

0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>their number one songs and they it looks like they

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>only charted like the international stuff around that I saw quickly.

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that makes sense. You are not alone by Michael Jackson.

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's nice. It's like mostly American stuff. It's it's

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>surprisingly it's surprisingly close to what you would think of

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 1>because like it was like the top charts in the

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>United States. I know that Chowchesku's favorite TV show is

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Kojack um, because yeah, Kojack can just shoot anybody who

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:07.320
<v Speaker 1>wants and ask you identifies with that. There's um. Telly

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Savalis wrote a book I Think about Getting Asked, which

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I think is just really hilarious, like it's just a

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:16.960
<v Speaker 1>way to get ass wait when I'm I'm super into that.

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>The idea that Ko Jack was writing a how to

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>pick up women? Um, yeah, it's interesting. It's always interesting,

0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 1>like when you look at kind of these countries while

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:32.080
<v Speaker 1>they are under communism. What American TV shows are really popular?

0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Hungry where um what's its name?

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 1>The Peter Folks show, Um, Colombo Colombo. Colombo was like huge,

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe in Hungary where it was like people were

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 1>absolutely out of their fucking minds for Colombo, which makes

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 1>sense against Colombo isn't that weirdly enough? I think that's

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the main points of WandaVision. Oh is it

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:00.320
<v Speaker 1>so like if you saw wand Division on Disney Plus,

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole point of it was that she, you know,

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:05.839
<v Speaker 1>where she grew up was clearly the Eastern Bloc, and

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 1>they just like they had these old DVDs of old sitcoms.

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to a couple of people, like there were um,

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 1>like folks who grew up in countries where like The

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Simpsons was illegal, who would get like smuggled Simpsons DVDs

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 1>where like one person you would just have some like

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 1>random lady who would read in the local language like

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>over who would basically do these like underground dubs of

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 1>shows like The Simpsons. And how it's like, even now

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that they have access to the show as it actually is,

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the voices sound wrong because it's like, well, no, I

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:42.720
<v Speaker 1>grew up with like like Vlad from the village over

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 1>was the guy who did the voice. It was like this,

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a documentary about the world. It's fascinating stuff. It's

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 1>all It's I love this kind of like weird culture

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 1>bits like that. It's always really interesting. It's kind of

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like how you had. I mean, one of my favorite

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 1>stories from Castro's Q but is that during the aid's outbreak, Um,

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 1>there was like there were basically punks who you know,

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of there was heavy restrictions and what music

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:11.919
<v Speaker 1>you could listen to and what music you could play,

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and so you had these punks who realize that like, well,

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>if we get AIDS, the government will put us in

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 1>these like basically medical facilities where because we're all dying,

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>there's not the same kind of restrictions. So if we

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 1>just infect each other with HIV, we can play and

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 1>listen to whatever music we want. Um, it's a it's

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a fucking There was an NPR documentary about it. That

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:37.919
<v Speaker 1>is not the most far sighted way. I think that's

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 1>about the most punk rock anything could be. I'm not

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>saying I wouldn't say punk rock is something that is

0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 1>not shortsighted. Well, yeah, that's probably fair given the lifespans

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of those guys. Yeah, like the crust

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 1>punk lifestyle is not designed to make it to to

0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're not gonna die of old age if

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 1>if you're like really, but you know who I love

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>g Allen. Important to note Chow Chessco through none of

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:09.200
<v Speaker 1>this period is not listening to to punk music. He is, however,

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 1>watching Kojack. It is interesting that, like the dictator of

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Romania's favorite TV show is a fucking cop show. Um yeah,

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Greek car Perhaps not surprising, um so yeah. Chow Chesscu

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:28.280
<v Speaker 1>has this plan to continue Georgiu Day's policy of industrializing Romania.

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>He wants to build it into this consumer goods mecca.

0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:33.960
<v Speaker 1>His plan is to turn Romania. Instead of it being

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a breadbasket, and Romania is very well suited to produce

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a shipload of high quality food, he wants it producing

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:45.720
<v Speaker 1>consumer goods, appliances, refrigerators, and televisions, all sorts of electronics

0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that can then be sold all throughout Europe, including Western Europe. Now,

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:53.800
<v Speaker 1>doing this, Romania not a huge country. He's gonna need

0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a bigger population. If you want to be an industrial nation,

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you need a lot of workers. So in order to

0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:02.800
<v Speaker 1>p vide this needed base of industrial workers, Nikolai and

1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Elena calculate that the country should shoot for a population

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 1>of twenty million people. Now, what's the best way to

1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>incentivize basically doubling the population of your country. Well, first

1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you've got to make sure people don't have condoms, and

1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:18.880
<v Speaker 1>then you have to ban abortion, and you know what,

1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you might as well just make it illegal to provide

1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:24.440
<v Speaker 1>much of anything in the way of sex set or contraceptives.

1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 1>But just just get rid of all that and people

1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:30.960
<v Speaker 1>will naturally make more of themselves. Now, there's some consequences

1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to this, UM. For example, the fact that over time

1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:38.960
<v Speaker 1>a huge number of Romanian women seek abortions anyway, but

1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:43.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't have access to decent medical care or information

1:00:43.680 --> 1:00:45.680
<v Speaker 1>about their bodies that would allow them to do that

1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in anything that even approaches a safe way. And so

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:50.720
<v Speaker 1>during the time that Nikolae and Elena are in power,

1:00:50.800 --> 1:00:53.680
<v Speaker 1>between ten and twenty thousand Romanian women die due to

1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:58.560
<v Speaker 1>botched abortions. UM. So that's pretty bad. You're not going

1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to help the population well overall, I mean, they do

1:01:02.680 --> 1:01:05.760
<v Speaker 1>reach their population goal. We will talk more in another

1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:09.720
<v Speaker 1>episode about the other things that happened as they that.

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>His goal was just like, you know, why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>become like Japan? Yeah, and it's like just I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they got a lot of assistance from America

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard that you're not getting in Romania. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to get that in Romania, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have there's a lot of things that like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you shouldn't immediately assume that you can go from

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<v Speaker 1>zero to like producing everybody's televisions when there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of competition for that role. And yeah, getting a Magna

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<v Speaker 1>box or a Sorny you know, Um, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to work out well, a lot of none of this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to work out well. But you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the early kind or in the mid to late sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>while you still have this, I mean this, this abortion

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<v Speaker 1>policies pretty nightmarish and that's going to cause a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of suffering. You could be forgiving. Yeah, yeah, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>living in Romania, you could be forgiven for thinking, well, ship,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually kind of working out, okay, right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's the point at which we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>end right now. On an up note, aside from the

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty people who die in a nightmarish totalitarian

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<v Speaker 1>anti abortion policy, that's called dipping your toes into the pool, baby, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dipping your toes into the pool. And we will come

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<v Speaker 1>back and we will talk about what happens when Chowchesco

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<v Speaker 1>dips a little bit more of himself into the pool.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, Jeff, you you who do you? Who are you? Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you come from? Where did you come from?

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<v Speaker 1>The cotton? Jeff? Well, you know, I'm I'm a comedian podcaster.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing I will say is that if you

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<v Speaker 1>are in the New England area and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see me performing live, I'm going to be doing one

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<v Speaker 1>show uh Wednesday, February twenty second at Redemption Rock Brewery

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<v Speaker 1>in Western Massachusetts. It's my one show that I do

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Limited tickets, but it's a great stand up

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<v Speaker 1>show and I love doing stand up and I get

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get to do it enough, so I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>happy to do that. You can also see me live

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<v Speaker 1>the second Friday of every month at Blast from the

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<v Speaker 1>Past on Magnolia and Beautiful Burbank, California for my show

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<v Speaker 1>Mint on card Love Burbank. Podcast wise God, you can

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<v Speaker 1>hear I got a lot of good ones I got

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff has cool friends, which you can hear for free anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can get early access to uncensored episodes with

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<v Speaker 1>bonus content at Patreon dot com slash Jeff May one Word.

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<v Speaker 1>You also have access to shows like Nerd with Drey Alvarez,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a nerdy deep dive podcast. You can do

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<v Speaker 1>shows like ug Find Me with Kim Crawl that's monthly.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to Game Fully Unemployed, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>hear Tom and Jeff watch Batman with Tom Riman, who's

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<v Speaker 1>been a guest of the show a million times. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you can check that out. You can also check out

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<v Speaker 1>you Don't Even Like Sports, a sports podcast for people

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<v Speaker 1>that hate sports, and Unpopular Opinion, both on the un

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<v Speaker 1>Pops Network with Adam Todd Brown. Um. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm around. You can find me on social media. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can find Jeff. That was very thorough. That is

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you do these plugs seven times a week.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can find me next to Jeff waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>him to get sick and die so that I can

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<v Speaker 1>take over for him. Been much. I'm gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>chow chesscoo of Jeff may Um. Yeah, it's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm going to turn Jeff's apartment into a

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing hub for southern California. We're getting up all my toys.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna melt him down and

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<v Speaker 1>turn him into those big old style TVs made like

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<v Speaker 1>seven pounds in the back. Oh yeah, oh yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that are like of a nuclear bomb, like you

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<v Speaker 1>basically have a dirty bomb if the TV goes out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of TV that has that fizzy static

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<v Speaker 1>on it when it's been off for the whole time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that glows at night and you just wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>is it is there something always going on in there?

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<v Speaker 1>I miss old TV. There's something in this TV humming

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, unplugged, still humming. Yeah, the one that

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<v Speaker 1>could kill a family of four if it fell over

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<v Speaker 1>while you were eating your fucking uh TV Swanson dinners.

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<v Speaker 1>Um God, things were so much better in the nineties. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back on Thursday. Everybody Behind the Bastards is

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