1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Y'all. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 3: Its way up with Angela yee and this is so exciting. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 3: If y'all could have heard my reaction when they were like, oh, 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: would you want to interview Lisa Lisa? I said yes absolutely. 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: I was like, whatever day we need to do it, 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: I will be there. But Lisa Lisa is here alongside 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 3: her best friend Slash manager Slash also an artist, Tony Minaj. 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah happening. 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: I asked her to step into the interview too, because 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: you played such a big part in Lisa Lisa's life, 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: which you know me growing up like listening to Lisa 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: Lisa in the eighties, you don't know anything about what's 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: going on behind the scenes. We know the music and 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: we know Cold Jam, we know Full Force, But this 16 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: biopic that's out now on Lifetime really helped put things 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: into perspective to see how it all happened. 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: Which is what we really really wanted to do. We 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: wanted to focus on who col Jam was because they 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: were never in the front, in the front lines. Everybody 21 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: thought the Full Force was culture, right they did, because. 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: A lot of confusion around that. 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 5: We would get yeah, the guys from a house, Yeah 24 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 5: that's Cult Jam, right, and I'm like, no, that's not 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 5: that's for the separate group. 26 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, focus, So. 27 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: This representing just them. 28 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 5: I mean, everyone knows how legendary full forces they wrote 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 5: these amazing songs and produced these amazing songs that gave 30 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 5: us Lisa, Lisa, but you know, I thought it was 31 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 5: I think we both when we sat down at the 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 5: table with Twinkie, we just decided, you know what, let's 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 5: represent the group. Yes, so people kind of have you 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 5: people here with their eyes, so now they'll know they'll 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 5: see those two. 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: Guys, Mike and Alex. 37 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: That's cult jat because I learned I learned a lot 38 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: about that from watching and you know, you talk about 39 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: Twinkie and I know Lisa, they said you said Twinky 40 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: was in your DMS. 41 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 2: Like, she, what are we doing this story? 42 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: She goes, I know you, I love you. We need 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: to tell your story. Please allow me. My father was 44 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: a teacher and Julia Richmond and I was like, oh, 45 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: okay no, But like five years later and she would 46 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: come into my DMS like maybe once or twice a month, 47 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, for five years, and then Tony came in 48 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: to my DMS and acted like it. 49 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 5: Was me, right, we took over to social to make sure, 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 5: you know, clean it up and get it yes, get 51 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 5: it right. And so you know, we go in and 52 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 5: check out, you know, the DM sometimes and Twinkie was 53 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 5: in there and I was like, yeah, we want to 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 5: make a movie. 55 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: Let's let's make where. She told me I said, yes, 56 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: my face sign something. I said, we had contract issues before. 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: We don't want to go. My answer, my answer was, 58 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: does anybody want to know my life? 59 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, let me tell you. 60 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: I think sometimes you don't understand the impact that you had, 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: even for me as a kid, you know, growing up, 62 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: because we can talk about you really setting the trend. 63 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: I'm from Brooklyn, you're from Hell's Kitchens. But growing up 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: in New York, you know, we were very into obviously 65 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 3: R and B. Yes, pop was it was still early 66 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: ish you know for that, but your genre of music 67 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: was different. It was also R and B. It also 68 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: was very I think music really brings people together. And 69 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: for you being Puerto Rican and doing what you were doing, 70 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: it's not even something we thought about. 71 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: I learned K Sarah K Sarah from you. 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 73 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: I used to say that all the time, just from 74 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: listening to your music. You know, but it wasn't even 75 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: anything that you really think about. It just existed, you know. 76 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: And so for you to be able to cross over 77 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: into all these different genres, that's not an easy thing 78 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: to do. 79 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. And back then I didn't focus on 80 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: any of that. I just wanted to sing. So come on, 81 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: let's do this, like you know, we kept it pushing, 82 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: And now that everybody says that to me, I'm like, okay, 83 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: thank you all. Take it. 84 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 3: Everybody talks about how humble and how nice you are 85 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: and how kind your spirit is. 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: That's also not easy. 87 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: When you've been famous for a long time and you've 88 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: been through a lot, because you meet people who get 89 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: so jaded and you've been through so much, you know, 90 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: just to see you still being like a good, kind person, 91 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: that's also not an easy thing. 92 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. I think I had good grounding, good raising. 93 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: My mom. She kept me on the street and narrow 94 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: come home. You gotta do the dishes, you gotta wash 95 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: the clothes, you gotta clean the floor, you gotta do it. 96 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: She kept me grounded. And there was ten of us 97 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: on the youngest of ten, yeap, so we had to 98 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: do our chores and we all helped her, you know, 99 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: take care, but she was raising ten on her own. 100 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: I think that there the fight that she put to 101 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: make sure that her ten children, you know, live their dream. 102 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: That's my strength. 103 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: So let's get into this story because I know some 104 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: people have seen it. It came on over the weekend. Yes, 105 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: and can you feel that Lisa Lisa's story And if 106 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: you haven't seen it, you know people know some of 107 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: your story, but we're gonna give some some things up now. 108 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Sure. 109 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: So when you first got signed, right, you were only 110 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: you were a teenage you were still in high school. 111 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: Yes, fifteen. I didn't know anything nothing. I just wanted 112 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: to say, snuck into the funhouse and met one of 113 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: the guys from Cult Jam Mike Cues, and he said, 114 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: come to this audition, and. 115 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: I did you know what I wanted to ask you? 116 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: Because there were some tinges of it throughout. Did you 117 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: ever feel because beautiful, young but young underage girl in 118 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: this industry of sharks and a lot of men, surrounded 119 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: by a lot of men, how was that for you? 120 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: And how did you learn how to navigate that? 121 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Early on? It was not easy. I didn't learn how 122 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: to navigate it till later. On when I met Tony, 123 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: because she's the one who's taught me how to say no, 124 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: and I you know, I found my voice say no. 125 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: It was difficult. I come from a family of ten 126 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: and there's a ton of ather. I'm the youngest, but 127 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: there's seven women and three guys, right, so you know 128 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I tried. You know, everything was about just move, press on, 129 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: move on. You know, it was the eighties, you know, 130 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: boys club music industry was definitely still is two run 131 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: by men, and it was difficult to get my point 132 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: across us. 133 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 4: You know. 134 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 1: It was about an arm, a hand over your shoulder 135 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: and be quiet, don't speak right, that kind of thing. 136 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: And did you ever say you left school? You dropped 137 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: out of school? 138 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: No? I stayed in Yeah, no, I had. I stayed 139 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: in school, but I also had tutors on the road. 140 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: Okay, because some things we don't get to see in 141 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: the whole. 142 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, you don't get to see everything. You Yeah, I. 143 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: Couldn't everything at all. And I know you're also doing 144 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: a book, right. 145 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: I absolutely am, Yes, so everything will be in that 146 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: bad boy. I'm gonna speak my truth. I thank god. 147 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: How far along are you with this bug? 148 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Huh? Hopefully? 149 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 2: It'll be finished. 150 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: I have so much to say. I hope to have 151 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: it done by the end of the year. I hope 152 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: my fingers across. 153 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: And what made you decide now, because, like you said, 154 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: you've always been not really like putting your life out there. 155 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Tony. She was like, come on, you gotta you 156 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: gotta tell your story. People want to hear it. And 157 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: I said, what do they want to know? I just 158 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: I loved to sing. That's all I want people to know. 159 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: And yeah, speaking you, I just you know, I think 160 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: it's important. And I've repeated this a few times. 161 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: I think it's important that we give her her flowers 162 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 5: and her due credit now while she's here to appreciate it. 163 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 5: And I think for us, for me, it was very 164 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 5: important to do this movie now because you know, Selena 165 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 5: had a great movie and it gave j Lowe a 166 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 5: huge career, but she wasn't here to be part of 167 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: her project. So having Lisa at on set every day, 168 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: you know, with the cast talking to them and them 169 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 5: getting information from her outside of the research that they 170 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: did on their own, was priceless. It created a family environment. 171 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 5: You know, the movie was shot in a few weeks. 172 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: It wasn't. 173 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: We didn't have months to shoot this, so you know 174 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 5: we're on set sixteen hour days even when she's out 175 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 5: of character because she plays her mom and my mom. 176 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I was saying, we talked about this before 177 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: the cameras came on. Angie Martinez is in this and 178 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: she's playing a nurse. 179 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: Yes, I love you, Angie, thank you. 180 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: I was I told Angie, I said, I screamed when 181 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: I when I saw you on the screen. I was 182 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: so excited at Lever's in here. Also, he had a 183 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: cameo and then you played your mom. I did, how 184 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: did you prepare for that? And how did you feel 185 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: after you saw yourself. 186 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I remember when we went into makeup, hair and makeup, 187 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: and when the eyebrows got on. When they put those 188 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: eyebrows on, I was like, Oh, she's here. She's here, 189 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: because they made me look exactly like her. It was scary, 190 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: but it was therapeutic for me seeing my life through 191 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: her eyes and everything that she went through. The first 192 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: scene was killer for me. That was killer for me 193 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: because to remember that she had to pull me out 194 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: of the scene for a minute while we were filming. 195 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: I was bowling just to remember all of that. 196 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: Your father was abusive, yes, and then we didn't see 197 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: him again. 198 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,479 Speaker 1: So have you ever like I never had a relationship 199 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: with my father. Okay, that's actually how I met my father. 200 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: I met my father when I walked in. I heard 201 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: my mom whimpering. And when I walked into the apartment, 202 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: she was pinned to the kitchen window and he was 203 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: abusing her, beating her, and I just we always, you know, 204 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: living in hell's kitchen. You kept the bat by the doors. 205 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: I took that back and I actually connected boom, you know, 206 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: and my mother's like, no, that's your father. I was like, really, yeah, 207 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: this is my father keeping out of here, you know, crazy. 208 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: It was nuts. 209 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: What was the decision to open the movie with that? 210 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: Because, like you said, that's a really tough emotional thing, 211 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: but it caught your attention right away and kind of 212 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: says the stage for. 213 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, basically how I believe that that needed to be 214 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: shown because then we're alone. My mom raised us all 215 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: by herself. She had to get rid of that. We 216 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: tried to pull her out of it, you know, the kids, 217 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: all of us, we pulled her out of it, and 218 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: then we went, you know, to another place, and we 219 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: all had to work right, you know, we all had 220 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: to put our part. I wanted them to see that. 221 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: I wanted the audience to see that, definitely. 222 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 5: We also had a fantastic director and she's thirty years old. 223 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 5: First of all, I just want to say that we 224 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 5: had all brown women work on this project. 225 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: Nice. 226 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 5: It was very important that we had a Puerto Rican writer, 227 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 5: and you know that women worked on this film because 228 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 5: of the content. 229 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 4: But Talia is phenomenal and she. 230 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 5: Directed this film and it became a personal project for her. 231 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: You know. 232 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 5: The first cut that you know, we sat through it 233 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 5: was two hours and she was like, I pray that 234 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 5: the network lets me keep this. 235 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: I know they're not. 236 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 5: They're going to cut at least thirty minutes of this film. 237 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 5: There was so much more in there. 238 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: Tell me what got cut so I could get an 239 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: idea of some things that you wish would have made 240 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: it in. 241 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 5: But I mean, I think the things that got cut 242 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 5: were conversation conversations. 243 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: No, but I don't think you know, a lot of 244 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: the audience is not going to finish listening to or 245 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: hear be able to hear the rest of the conversation 246 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: because there was just so much more in a scene. 247 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: They had to cut the scenes down. 248 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: That's tough. 249 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: I know you were like each part because damn I 250 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 3: had so much more to say. 251 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: Now. 252 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: There's also a part where one of the members of 253 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: Cold Jam actually kind of like, has you up against 254 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: It's not it's a manager. Oh that's the manager. Okay, 255 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: that was a manager. 256 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: But it repped, you know, like she said it was. 257 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: It was the eighties and even me as a as 258 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: a lesbian woman. 259 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: You know, nobody was safe if in that time exactly. 260 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: Even today, Yeah, you have here like you know, depending 261 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: on but yes, I think hopefully things are getting better. 262 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: It absolutely yes, I was able to take control of 263 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: it all. 264 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 4: You know. 265 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: She showed me the way. Like again, when I met Tony, 266 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: my angel, I want to smack you, but I love 267 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: you so much. She taught me. She showed me my voice. 268 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: She said, come on, don't let this happen, you know. 269 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: But again the eighties Boys Club, everybody tried to get 270 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: their feel and I'm just happy that I came through that. 271 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm here today to speak on it. 272 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: And I was watching that, I was like, Laura, please 273 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: don't let this go. 274 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: Oh there was a lot more that wasn't shown. 275 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 3: I feel like it has one of the scenes that, yeah, 276 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: because that's why I was asking it, because I felt 277 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: like it probably was more than that. 278 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: But you know, and I feel like it was enough, right, 279 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 5: because we didn't want to take away from the impact 280 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 5: that she made in this industry by having people focus 281 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 5: on the trauma, right, because we're addicted to trauma now, 282 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 5: it's all in our feed constantly, and so we've become 283 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: almost immune to the idea that these things happened. There 284 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 5: was a time where you would be terrified when you 285 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 5: saw certain things, and now it's normal to us. 286 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: It's become normal to see that far. 287 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: It's terrible if we've been desensitized to traumas. 288 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: So it was just we wanted to keep it classy. 289 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 5: We wanted to keep the focus on her story, the 290 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 5: friendship between us, the relationship between her and Colt jam 291 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 5: and I think that we accomplished that with this film. 292 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely did an Tony. 293 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 3: I want to get to your part in this too, 294 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: as Freezy plays you. She did a phenomenal I love you, Breezy. 295 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: She did a phenomenal job playing your character. So you 296 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: came into this having some knowledge of having had a 297 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: record deal. 298 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Yes, well this is your real life. 299 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: So yes, and so you had a terrible deal. I 300 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: think you said you got two hundred dollars. 301 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 5: I put out a record called Video Burnout in nineteen 302 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 5: eighty three. I was fourteen. They recorded me without any 303 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 5: adult surround. They wrote me a check for two hundred dollars, 304 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 5: endorsed it and gave me the cash. And that's what 305 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 5: I made for that song. And it's still an underground 306 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: dance hit today. Yeah. So yeah, I learned. But the 307 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 5: thing about me is you're only going to get to 308 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 5: dupe me once because I don't like, I'm. 309 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: Privd with me once on you. 310 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm prideful, So I'm not going to allow you 311 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: to make me look stupid twice. So you know, I 312 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: started asking questions and you know, reading up and talking 313 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: to people, and so by the time I got to Lisa, 314 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 5: I was seventeen. 315 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: And Lisa was very afraid. You know. I'd be like, 316 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: I don't sound right. She'd be like, she's. 317 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: Like, I'm not trying to have to go back to 318 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: bag and gross. 319 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't. 320 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: Don't rock the boat. Don't rock the boat, Tony. She's 321 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: still like that. 322 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: Now, you know, she's like, well, you know, but you well, 323 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: all right, we'll get to that in the second. What 324 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: you're like now, But what did you think your younger 325 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: self when you first met Lisa Lisa, Because in the 326 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: movie she has a very sweet, nice interaction with you. 327 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: I want to know what your thoughts were when you 328 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: first met her, because sometimes you could look at somebody 329 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: like that and be like, you know, what's she going 330 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: to be like? 331 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: Is she a mean girl? 332 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 5: Is she was at least has consistently been a sweetheart 333 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 5: for the last forty years that I've known her, almost 334 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: too in my opinion, almost to a faults right, because 335 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: people see that as a way to get in and 336 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 5: take advantage. I feel like this movie represents how because 337 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: I think they think, you know, when you're lesbian or 338 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 5: you live that life, that you want to sleep with 339 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 5: all women. I hope that they understand that this friendship 340 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: had nothing to do. 341 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: It was never even a thought. 342 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: We literally built a sisterhood instantly, and I think it's 343 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 5: because we were the only two women on the tour, 344 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 5: and we found comfort and safety in hanging out together 345 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: and talking and singing in the back of the bus. 346 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: And you know, she was my blanket man. She made 347 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: me feel comfortable, you know. 348 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: She she told me to make them. 349 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: I had to save your legs, and that's for real, 350 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, that's really for real. 351 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I remember the first time I saved 352 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: my legs. 353 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 4: It didn't go well because I was always afraid to 354 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: cutting off. 355 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: I cut myself off, my shame with the bonus. 356 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: Men don't have to go through that. Men don't have 357 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: to go through that. 358 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: Oh. 359 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: But she was a beast, and I told her, come on, 360 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: you have to take care of that situation. Handle that. 361 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: That's oh. 362 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: I was like, well, I gotta do this. 363 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: I needed each other though, yes, yeah, you know, just 364 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: as much as Lisa needed you, Tony, Tony, you needed her. 365 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I needed her. 366 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 5: I mean I was I was rough around the edges, 367 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 5: you know. I was the movie like, I was a pill. 368 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: And when I think back to younger me, I was like, damn, 369 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: you had to deal with you. But Lisa stories, she 370 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: gave me the She she softened me up in ways 371 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: where I needed it, and later on it worked for 372 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 5: my life when I started and reacting with people and 373 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 5: running my own companies. That growing experience with her was 374 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 5: she just taught me how to be a kinder. I 375 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: didn't have to be so hard all the time. 376 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: And you tell her to be a little more hurry 377 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: and you need to be a little more rough. 378 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah she did. 379 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: She's a happy medium, nice balance. 380 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: And your father, you know that was depicted in the 381 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: movie as well, Tony. That was an I mean, what 382 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: is your relationship with him or what happened after that? 383 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: Was there ever? 384 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: Any So my father died in prison years back. 385 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 5: I'm a product of rape, so I happened to meet 386 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 5: my father. But you know, my mother was thirteen when 387 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 5: she had WOW, so you know, I didn't know she 388 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 5: was my mother though she was my sister. 389 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: She was being raised as my sister. 390 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 5: So when I all this truth came out as a 391 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 5: teenager and I finally met him like any other child 392 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 5: that was trying to cling to him and build a relationship. 393 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: But he was from the streets and so what he 394 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 5: saw that as he was an opportunity to use me 395 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 5: to do other things. 396 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 4: You know, whole drugs, sell drugs. 397 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 5: You know, you get high with me and then you 398 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 5: tell me to go to my room and then I'm 399 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 5: like what this don't work. So we had that kind 400 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 5: of relationship. I loved him like any kids. You know, 401 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 5: I tell people all the time, you have children, Your 402 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: children love you with a clean slate. 403 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: You could be anything. 404 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: You ruin it, you turn it into whatever you're going 405 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 5: to turn it into. Me And I still love him. 406 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, whatever his traumas were, his story was, 407 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 5: I'm sure it was, you know, traumas passed on. So 408 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 5: I'm not angry with him. I don't blame him, but 409 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 5: you know, his life technically ended up in his demise, 410 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 5: and you know, and that's that's the cycle. I'm fortunate 411 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 5: enough to have at least to saved my life because 412 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 5: getting into that tour changed the direction that I was going. 413 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 5: And it could have gone it could have split up 414 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 5: and gone either way. But this tour, this, you know, 415 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 5: and I thankful force for giving me that opportunity. I 416 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: think cult Jim, I think Lisa. But this friendship was 417 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 5: built as a result of that one audition, which I 418 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 5: wasn't even supposed to be at. 419 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: She killed it real fast, she did. 420 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 4: Smoking a cigarette. I was drinking. 421 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: I want to tell that story. She walks in. I 422 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't see we were having this discussion. Oh my god, 423 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: we gotta have another audition. Because I didn't find anybody, 424 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: and blah blah, blah blah, and all of a sudden, 425 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: his voice starts to come out and it stopped me 426 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: writing my tracks. And I listened, and then when I 427 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: turn around, I see this, this thing. She looked like 428 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: a boy. She had a head to the back, she 429 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: had a bubble jacket on, a beer in one hand 430 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: and a cigarette in the other, and she's blowing. She 431 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: didn't she was like this with the. 432 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: Beer as I am and was blowing. 433 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, that's what I want. 434 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: And the reaction that I got from everybody else, I 435 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: was like, I don't care. I ran after her, right, 436 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, and. 437 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: They let you because the thing is, it was a 438 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: very controlling situation. You were the only woman before that, 439 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: and it felt like they were making all the decisions, 440 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: even you know, the music, giving it to you. But 441 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: that day you knew that that was something you had 442 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: to I had to make happen, and they actually. 443 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: Did, even though they tried to kick you out there. 444 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 4: You know how many time they kicked me out a 445 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 4: couple of times. But like I said, I was you know, 446 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 4: I was a pill. I was seventeen. I was raw. 447 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 4: You know, you talk crazy to me, I talk crazy back. 448 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: You know. 449 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: That didn't bother me because I came from a family 450 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: of ten, right, I'm the youngest of ten of them, 451 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: and I had some rough brothers. 452 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: Rough, thank god. 453 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, my oldest brother helped you out, right. Yeah, he 454 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: did three tours in the Vietnam War. So when he 455 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: came back, oh god, he was he was a pill. Yeah, 456 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: I was. I was used to that. 457 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: But the whole neighborhood knew not to mess with you. 458 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: Oh they didn't. They didn't. That's Raymon's little sister. Don't 459 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: mess with me. 460 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 461 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 5: She embraced me like there was no you know more 462 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 5: where I would walk into certain environments. I was used 463 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: to being judged, and I was already deferent. That's where 464 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 5: the heart I was defensive. I was ready to defend 465 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 5: myself constantly because I had to. She never made me 466 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 5: feel like I had to defend myself to never just 467 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 5: I was. 468 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: Tony has the heart of gold. She really told people, 469 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I have to. It's my experience. She has a heart 470 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: of gold. She really really does, and she loves to 471 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: take care of people. She has such a maternal personality 472 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: as people cling to her, you know, so that was 473 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: all to me. We shut that away, We shud that up. 474 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: What did you think when Lisa got married? 475 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: I told her what I say. 476 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 5: I said, if you marry this dude, I'm wearing a 477 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 5: tux to your wedding. 478 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 4: And she did and I did. 479 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: When you got married, Lisa. 480 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was almost turning twenty, I was 481 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty twenty. 482 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: I know. Everybody was like, don't do it. 483 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: They did, family said don't do it. My mother was like, 484 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: you don't need to marry this kid. I'm like, but 485 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: I love them. And I think that's. 486 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 5: You think you and you know, but you know, listen, 487 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 5: I wanted to be grown, but I think that's that's like, 488 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: that's the innocence of Lisa. Lisa is and I feel 489 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: like your nest who is fantastic the young lady that 490 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 5: plays her. The most important thing was that whoever played 491 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: Lisa had to look like Lisa. 492 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: I was like, looked just like you. 493 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 4: People don't hear with their eyes, you know. 494 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 5: And I feel like, if you do a biopic about 495 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 5: an artist, you have to have two things. 496 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: A visual that makes that draws people in and the music. 497 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Amen. 498 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 5: You know that's those two things are super important. And 499 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 5: your nest man, she had just enough innocence to play 500 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 5: the the soft, beautiful Lisa that we know, and just 501 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 5: enough fire to rep present the hurdles that she had 502 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 5: to jump and the strength that she had to build 503 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 5: throughout the film. 504 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: And I feel like she captured that all the way. 505 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: She is man, that iconic pink outfit. 506 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: Man, that's the iconic man. She walked out with that 507 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: as she walked on, like, oh my god, they did it. 508 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: The costume, hair and makeup did their thing. 509 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, even with pictures, I've seen people like looking at 510 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: pictures of it and saying like this brings me back, 511 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: you know, to this is so eighties, so amazing times. 512 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 3: Now got to ask you also about breast cancer. This 513 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: was something that I didn't even know until, you know, 514 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: way later, And you got to think, back then, we 515 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 3: didn't have like social media. We didn't have that peeking 516 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: into people's lives to know what's going on. I can't 517 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: imagine what that must have been like for you, being 518 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: tired all the time, having to be on tour. Get up, 519 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 3: let's go, not taking a break. I mean, talk to 520 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 3: us about that, because you were only what twenty twenty 521 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 3: one years old, when you got diagnosed with breast cancer. 522 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: When yeah, I remember when I was told that I 523 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: had the breast cancer. I was like, the only thing 524 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: that I was focusing on was my mother. My mother 525 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: went through so much. Just to see her pick herself up, 526 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: wipe those tears away, and keep going, and she always 527 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: had a smile on her face. That's what I thought about. 528 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want anybody to be able 529 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: to take away what I worked so hard for. I 530 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: want to keep doing it. I was afraid that it 531 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: was going to pull that right from under me. I 532 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: got reactions from the guys, you know, why are you 533 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: sleeping while you tired? Are you pregnant? 534 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the first thing they're going to think they 535 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: are pregnant. 536 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: I was asked so many times, are you pregnant? Because 537 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 1: I was swelling at one point and I used to 538 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: cover the pack underneath my clothes and it was hard. 539 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: But all I wanted to do was get through it 540 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: and continue to perform, because that's all I've ever wanted 541 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: to do. 542 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: You know, the blessing is that you found that early 543 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: that you actually went to the dance. Yes, when something 544 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: was wrong, and you saw something and you went to 545 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: find it, because imagine not finding out. 546 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: You know, the earlier you find out, the better it 547 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: is for you. 548 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, I saw those bruises and I was like, 549 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: why am I feeling so uncomfortable? Right, you know? And 550 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: they found six tumors, and I was like, I gotta 551 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: do this immediately, Let me go, Let me go. I 552 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: couldn't tell my mother. I was so afraid that she 553 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: was going to pull me off the road as well. 554 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: I didn't want to give her anymore to deal with, right, 555 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: And then the guys, you know, I don't want them 556 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: to And then you were dealing. 557 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: With it by yourself. 558 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, every day I had the greatest oncologist and 559 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: the nurse to whatever city they had. I handed them 560 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: the schedule of whatever we were doing, and they would 561 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: make sure in whatever city they would find a hospital 562 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: where I could go and get filled or get treatment there. 563 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: We would get to the city at six in the morning, 564 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: by seven I was in. I was in. I didn't 565 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: let anybody know. 566 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: And then eventually, was Tony the first person you told? 567 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, yeah, she was. She was when I told 568 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: my mother was years after that. Wow, yes, you know 569 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 1: she never knew, never knew. And then, you know, one 570 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: day I decided to tell her because I started working 571 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: with Sloan kettering and doing you know, all that work. 572 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: And she was like, well, why are you working with 573 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: these people? 574 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: And I had to tell her, right yeah, oh my gosh, 575 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: I know. She felt like, I can't even imagine you 576 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: going through that without telling anyone, you know, because people 577 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: want to support you and be there for you. 578 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: But I understand the journey. She cried, and she was like, 579 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: I would have been there for you. And I was like, 580 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: you had too much to deal with and I wanted 581 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: to continue my career. I didn't want anybody to take 582 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: it away from me, and. 583 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: That would have right. 584 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: And you know, not to mention that you bought your 585 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: mama house, you bought her a car, and we think 586 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: about your deal, right, because there was a lot of 587 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: conversations about what was in that contract? 588 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: What was in that deal? 589 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: I mean, who knows? You know. 590 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 3: They said you couldn't get married, I couldn't do nothing, 591 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: you couldn't have a relationship, nothing like you couldn't drive 592 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: fast cars, but not all kinds of things. 593 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: It was a bunch of crazy stuff. I couldn't make 594 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: any move without their their say. Anything that I said 595 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: or did went people I hung out with my family 596 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: had to go through them to hang out with you. 597 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. 598 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: I'm here today, guys. 599 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm alive, weird and HAPPI Lisa because work never 600 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: stopped for you. Because I think people also have to 601 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 3: understand what Lisa Lisa. Even after Lisa Lisa and cult 602 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: Jam broke up, you still as an individual had been 603 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: making amazing moves too, and that's a blessing. 604 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: Also, thank you. 605 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: I remember when I decided to sever Tize, I had 606 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: already in my head I'm gonna do this, so I 607 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: started writing out a contract on yellow notebook paper. I 608 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: started doing that, and then I put together some music 609 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: and I went to a record label. I went to 610 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: somebody who I worked with in the past on Columbia. 611 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: I went to Ruben Rodriguez and I said, I need 612 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: a record you know. He was like, oh absolutely, and 613 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: I signed that deal. But I gave him the yellow notebook. 614 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: It was funny. I had it rolled up and tied 615 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: with rubber band and I took it out of my 616 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: pocket and I said, here, this is what I want. 617 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: And he was like, okay, so you know what you 618 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: got to do. Now, go get a lawyer and have 619 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: them reprint this, write it correctly, and then you come 620 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: back to me, okay with that lawyer and we'll sign it. 621 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: And that's what I did. 622 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: I saw that. 623 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: Also recently, you said you were going to re record 624 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: your music, right, yes, so talk to me about that 625 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: because we've been hearing a lot about people rerecording classic album. 626 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Well, what I want to do is I want it. 627 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: We just released All Cried Out in SASA and it's 628 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: called no Yoda de massan all platforms and I love it. 629 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's been asking me why haven't you done any Spanish music, 630 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I had to do it rite. I 631 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: don't want to sell out. I had to make sure 632 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: that it was done right. Tony was beautiful enough to 633 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: find me the right producers, you know, and we did it. 634 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: So now what I want to do is re record 635 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: some of my hits in Spanish. 636 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: Oh that'll be amazing. 637 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lane, you know, it absolutely goes. 638 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: I just want to say, All Cried Out such a 639 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: classic song. Great to do a karaoke to. My favorite 640 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: part of that song, and I think The most powerful 641 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: part is when you say apology not accepted, Yes, because 642 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: that is something that we all need to say sometimes. 643 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely apology not accepted at me too, the broken 644 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: hearts you've collected. I do not want to be a 645 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: notch on your strength. Let it go. 646 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: How did you relate to songs like that, especially when 647 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: you first came out to being so young? 648 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I know, I was a kid, what the hell that 649 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I know? But I related because I think I really 650 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: feel that I had to grow up early. I have 651 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: to grow up fast because Hell's Kitchen, you have you 652 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: grown up fast? Oh yeah? And I love hell Hell's Kitchen. 653 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: My hometown here now, yeah yeah, yeah, down the block 654 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: from where I used to live. I just feel that 655 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: because I had to grow up so early, and I 656 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: came from a family of ten, and we helped my mom, 657 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, to take care of us. Those were questions 658 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: that we were all asking already, you know. So I 659 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: definitely related to that because I was able to sit 660 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: back and watch my brothers and sisters go through all 661 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: what they went through, and I was like, Okay, I'm 662 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: not going to do that. I want to do this, 663 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: and oh I'm not hanging out with that one. So 664 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: it taught me. 665 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: I learned. Now this wasn't in the movie. 666 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: But I want to ask when your husband, because you 667 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: did get married left right, he took all his stuff 668 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: and got out. 669 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: What happened after that? 670 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: Like, did y'all have a pre I know you didn't 671 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: have a prenup? No, so did Like what happened? Did 672 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: he try to come after any of your money? 673 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: Like? Oh he did? 674 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: Okay, I figured that he tried. I was upset when 675 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: you got married. I was like, I know she didn't 676 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: do no prenup because she didn't also sign her contract 677 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: with a lawyer, so I knew that wasn't happening. 678 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: So I was like, please don't let him take all 679 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: her money. 680 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't. He tried. He definitely tried, but 681 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: I have three big brothers, and uh, he deafly was 682 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: not able to And. 683 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: That's the truth. 684 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: And after that, because you know, going through things like 685 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: that at a at a young age, like you said, 686 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: you were so young when you first got married, you 687 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: were on the road. There were a lot of things 688 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: going on that it makes it hard to trust people. 689 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm afraid of that still to this day. 690 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: So they never know, you never know who's there for you. 691 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: And that's again I thank god that I have her 692 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: because she's the one who's constantly come here, didn't put 693 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: out of here. 694 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 5: Now we argue a lot because when our crew from 695 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: from the Tour Our Tour Life Family saw the movie, 696 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 5: they were like, y'all still do this do the same thing. 697 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 4: You know, she'd be, man, stop telling me what to do. 698 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: I'm a grown woman, and I'll be like, oh man, 699 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: she sms. 700 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: The dog is. 701 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: People think Lisa is like the sweet, quiet little guy. 702 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, except when it comes to you, because she could 703 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: be herself aroun she's bossy. 704 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not, but if I got to throw 705 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: a brush at you, I will. 706 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: So how did you find love again after that? 707 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: How is that for you? 708 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 5: Just? 709 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: I think because it always comes back to Tony Man. 710 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: Tony she made She helped me find my voice, and 711 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: it was it was from her that I learned that 712 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: it's okay to say no, it's okay to cry, and 713 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: it's okay to love. So I met my children's father. 714 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: We hung out a lot. He used to dance for 715 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: me and we became really good friends. And after three 716 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: years of hanging out it just happened we had babies. 717 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's good. That's see. 718 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: We love happy stories. And then you also played on 719 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: Tina I did. 720 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: I played the mom. 721 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: That was a vibe too. 722 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: Thank you. We were the first Latino family on TV. 723 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize. 724 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were the first, and it was great. 725 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: You broke down a lot of you feel like people 726 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: even realize just all the things that you represented. 727 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 4: No, she does. 728 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 5: She's really not aware of herself. I told her, I said, 729 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 5: when you see the movie, when the movie, when you're 730 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 5: watching it, I want you to look at the impact 731 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: from another perspective. 732 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: She's so humble and so not aware. 733 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: I just I know I am really, I don't focus 734 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: on anything like that is. My happiness comes from me 735 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: being able to do what I love to do. And 736 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: that's the same I love to sing. I may sound 737 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: redundant and nancy looking at me. 738 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: You know when your kids realize what a big. 739 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 4: Deal you are. 740 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: Recently, because when they were babies, I took them on 741 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: the road with me a little bit. But now that 742 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: they're twenty and eighteen, they're like, damn MO, because they're friends' 743 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: parents are like, we love your mother and they knock 744 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: on my door, can we take pictures with you? I'm 745 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna robe, so yeah, my kids will know now mm mmmmm. 746 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: But listen, I'm so excited to have you here. 747 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: Oh. 748 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: Another thing I wanted to talk about was just as 749 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: when you broke up with Cult Jam and that was 750 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: coming to an end, right, what happened? Like how did 751 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: you just separate sever things? Because I know it got 752 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: a little confusing with Faux Force. You know, there was 753 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: Cult Jam. People were like, Okay, who's in it? And 754 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: then I know you were really the face that they 755 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: were pushing, and that's not good for men's egos or 756 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: really anybody's egos, you know, and you know, like it 757 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 3: was like, let's do the interview, but we just want 758 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: Lisa Lisa or Yeah. 759 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: That was really hard for them. And I felt that, man, 760 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: because I was like, we're banned. We got to do 761 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: this together. But you know, the producers and management were like, 762 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: m they want to see you, they want to talk 763 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: to you. But you know, we cleaned that up in 764 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: the years as we went on as a group together. 765 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: But the day I decided to subvertise it was because 766 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, I had to fight to get other producers 767 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: on the last album that I did with them, straight 768 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: out of Hell's Kitchen. I was like, can I work 769 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: with Clesten Cole please? I want to do this, And 770 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: it was a fight. So I bought in Cleverlessen. I 771 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: set up a media and come on, guys, let me 772 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: do this. And the only way they were going to 773 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: do that is if they did one half of the 774 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: album and then Clovlyssen Cole were able to do the 775 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: second half of the album. I thought that was dumb, 776 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: but it worked, and it was just really really difficult 777 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: that I felt stifled. I wanted to continue on making 778 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: music and the record label was being really tough on me. 779 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: So I was like, please just let me go. I'll 780 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: do whatever I have to do, just let me go 781 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: from this contract. And thank you God, they did. And 782 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: I sat the guys down and I said, I just 783 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: have to go. I gotta go. I gotta pursue my career. 784 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: I got to pursue my dreams I want to do. Yeah. Yeah, 785 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: and it was it was good. It was an okay thing. 786 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: We all cried, we all hugged, and I moved on. 787 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: Right Yes, no, because y'all had a great run. 788 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: The number one top forty hits, but you get to 789 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: see an experience in the movie. 790 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: I feel like this could be a Broadway play too. 791 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: Nothing from Your Mouth to God's Ears, that's a plan. 792 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: Let's do this. Come on, anybody want to come up 793 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: and do this with me? Please? 794 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: Just seeing it, I mean. 795 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: It was, you know, just the time period, the hit songs, 796 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: the woman that is the face of this but doesn't 797 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: have the power that she should have as far as 798 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: making decisions. The best friend who in the eighties is 799 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: a lesbian, and they keep on trying to push her 800 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: out of the way. I mean, there's just so many 801 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 3: different things she. 802 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: Needed to be seen, and now we're getting her seen 803 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: because she deserves that definitely. 804 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 3: And I think even back then that is like something 805 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: that you know, it wasn't something that people were very 806 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: accepting of. 807 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: They weren't. 808 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, it was at all. 809 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 5: I honestly just you know, it's so funny because Breeze 810 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 5: is one of my favorite people, fast like, she's just 811 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 5: an amazing she's a amazing actor, amazing artist. But she 812 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 5: said something last the other day. 813 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 4: She said that. 814 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 5: Playing my role made her feel seen and and that 815 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 5: and that made me feel honored. 816 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 4: I was honored by it. 817 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 5: Yes and yeah the first like this relationship inside of 818 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 5: this iconic artist movie represents my character represents a whole 819 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 5: group of people, a whole group of of of lesbian 820 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 5: in the community that weren't seen and what weren't heard 821 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 5: in that time it was taboo. So I'm honored to 822 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 5: have her represent I'm a fan. Imagine you want to 823 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 5: make a movie about your life and on the first pick. 824 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 4: You get exactly who you want to play. 825 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 5: If it was yes, that's what I wanted, I thought. 826 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 5: I called that I was harassing Twinkie. I was like, 827 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 5: did you did you clear her skeedus? Did she clear 828 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 5: her schedule? 829 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: And and then she keept sending other auditions and she said, Breeze, 830 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: it's Breezy available. 831 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 5: And I know what I wanted, And I told I 832 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 5: told Breeze, I said, I think I just I willed you. 833 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 3: And then you were able to eventually start writing too, right, 834 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: because I know that was something you wanted to have 835 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: some input into the music. 836 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. It took forever, and then years later they 837 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: let me write one song and I was like, can 838 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: I write more? And I was like, you relax, I 839 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: wrote one song, someone to Love Me for Me, And 840 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: after I sadvertized with them and I started to started 841 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: to pursue my own thing. I started writing my own music. 842 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 4: Right. 843 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: That's empowering, absolutely, and it's oh my god, it's so 844 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: what is the word. I'm sure it's nurturing and it's 845 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: it's it's like eating chocolate. 846 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: It's like it's like healing too. Yes, and someone to 847 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: love me for me? 848 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: I know you grew up singing in a church, and 849 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 3: it gives me that type of feeling exactly. 850 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: Know absolutely. I started when I was six years old 851 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: and to see my mom when she gave me my 852 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: first soul because my mom was the director of the 853 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: choir and they were all women, all Latin women, and 854 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: it was we would call Maria Mary's daughters. And she 855 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: gave me my first solo six years old and it 856 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: was Ave Maria, and I sang that for her. She 857 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: started tearing and I was like, I want to do this. 858 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: This is a reaction that I want. That feeling filled 859 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: me up. 860 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: But I feel like once every well everybody's been watching 861 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: this movie all weekend and they're gonna continue to watch it. 862 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 3: But I feel like this is also gonna clearly give 863 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: you a significant spike. And everything that's been going on 864 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 3: on streaming services, on everything that you have. I know 865 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 3: you're gonna be doing shows coming up to and you've 866 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 3: been selling our shows. 867 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: We saw the Radio City scene. I can't wait. 868 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: If you haven't seen it, that's such an impactful scene. 869 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: But how has it been for you already? 870 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 3: Now with everybody getting ready to see well, when they 871 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: were getting ready to see it, and now that they've 872 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: seen it, how's that for you? 873 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: Oh it's crazy. I was so nervous, but now that 874 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: it's out, it's so warming. It's like, Wow, people really 875 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 1: did want to see my life. 876 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: I was excited you. I was excited as soon as 877 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: I seen it. 878 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: I think when the news came out, I was up here, like, 879 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 3: guess what they're doing at Leasta Lisa movie on Lifetime 880 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 3: and I'm excited to see and I'm so happy to 881 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: meet both of you. I feel like Tony's got a 882 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: story she needs to tell too. 883 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 5: At some point, I think that's gonna tell it and 884 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 5: then we're gonna work on it together. Absolutely, I'm grateful. 885 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 5: It's so funny because I'm used to being on the 886 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 5: other side of this and you know, you know, even 887 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 5: they're like, yo, sit down, you're talent today you're not 888 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 5: you're talent. 889 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 2: Look, I'm surprised. It like, can you please sit down? 890 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 5: And she was like, okay, shout out to our publicist 891 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 5: j Nancy and Joe love. 892 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 4: Them very much. 893 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 5: They have done a fantastic job helping Lifetime promote this thing, 894 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 5: and it's been it's been a whirlwind, it's been amazing fun. 895 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, and I cannot wait to read the book. 896 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, she said, I'm gonna let it all out. 897 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 3: I cannot wait because I know, I mean, just even 898 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 3: from watching this movie, I could read underneath like the. 899 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: Layers and know that there's a lot more. 900 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: Thank you that. 901 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 3: Obviously they couldn't do it justice in an hour and 902 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 3: a half, but they did a fantastic job. So congratulations. 903 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: You should be so proud of yourselves. 904 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 4: Thank you for writing me. 905 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: Yes, and I want you to know that I'm your 906 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: biggest fan. Yes, and God bless you continue to be 907 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: so nice. I can't take it. 908 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,479 Speaker 4: She was excited about this. 909 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they said, Angeley, Yes, and that's what I said. 910 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much, both, Thank you. 911 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 3: I appreciate and make sure if you haven't seen it 912 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,479 Speaker 3: and if you have watched, to check it out again. 913 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 3: Lisa Lisa on Lifetime. Can you fail to beat? Yeah, 914 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 3: it's way up 915 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 4: One