1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: On paper, we're supposed to be more evolved and intelligent 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: than we've ever been. And people were like, well, we're 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: living longer though. No, No, we're the first generation in 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: recorded human history that is not going to outlive the 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: generation before us. It is now reversed. By treating symptoms, 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: we can keep people alive. And what's happening is we're 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: not really living longer, We're dying longer. We're extending the suffering. 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, welcome back to on Purpose. I am so 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: excited to be talking to you today. 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So it's always a 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: great feeling when you're finally sitting in the studio with 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: someone that you've wanted to talk to, interview, gained their 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: insights for a long time. And he's a real expert. 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: He's a true deep expert. And you know how much 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I love mining the mind and the energy of someone 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: who's so deeply rooted in the work they do. And 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: today's guest is none other than Sean Stevenson, the author 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: of the USA Today national bestseller Eat Smarter and the 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: international best selling book Sleep Smarter. He's also the creation 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: of The Model Health Show, featured as the number one 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: health podcast in the US with millions of listeners downloads 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: each year. A graduate of the University of Missouri Saint Louis, 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: Sean studied business biology and nutritional science and became the 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: co founder of Advanced Integrative Health Alliance. Sean has been 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: featured in Forbes, Fast Company, The New York Times, Muscle 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: and Fitness, ABC News, ESPN, and many other major media outlets. Today, 42 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited to speak to him and buy his book, 43 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Eat Smarter and His Journey. You can order the book 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: as we're speaking. If you're someone who's been focusing on 45 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: your diet to improve it for your body, your mind, 46 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: your relationships, your brain, then this is the episode for you. Sean. 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to On Purpose. Thank you for being here, and 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: thank you for writing this book. It's such an honor 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: to be here. You make everything sound so much better 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: as well, you had to live it, so you know 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: it's been amazing. But I mean, we've been messaging, we've 52 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: been wanting to get together where we're finally here, and 53 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: I was just saying to you offline that my physical 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: health journey has been very interesting because I almost ignored 55 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: it for a long time because I was so focused 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: on the mind and the soul and the heart. And 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: my wife was my educator and my coach when it 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: came to my physical health. And so whenever I'm sitting 59 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: with someone who deeply understands food and nutrition, I'm very 60 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: fascinated and open book because I know there's something I 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: can improve about my health, whether it's through my gut 62 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: or my brain. But I want to start with a 63 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: bit about you. And you know, when you were younger, 64 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: you were diagnosed and I won't give it away, you 65 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: can share about it, but you were diagnosed and told 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: that there might not be a way of fixing or 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: solving something. Now, I can't imagine what that feels like 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: hearing that when you're younger, and I'm guessing at that 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: time you didn't have the skills you have today. So 70 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: can you take us back to that moment and just 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: explain to us what you went through and how that 72 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: sparked your journey. Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah. So we were a 73 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: product of our environment, but we're also creators of our 74 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: environment once we become aware of it. And so I 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: was just replicating what I was seeing around me, which 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of dysfunction, which was a lot of 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: ill health, and I kind of was like the one 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: in my family that had the potential to make it. 79 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: And what it was was in the environment that I 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: was in, in the inner city and being in poverty, 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: which Evan say that kind of with the parentheses. Here 82 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: in the United States, poverty is very different. You still 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: probably have a TV A card, you know, when much 84 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: of the world is living on a couple dollars a day. 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: But you know, we were struggling to get by in 86 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: this environment. All I saw was the opportunity for me 87 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: to go to college, which I never met anybody that 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: went to college, let alone graduated except my teachers. Was 89 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: through athletics, and so I did really well in school, 90 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: but I just saw sports was going to be my 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: way to get a scholarship. And when I was fifteen 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: years old, I ran a four to five forty, which 93 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: is like NFL combine caliber, you know, and I was 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: doing really great in track as well, but fate had 95 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: other plans for me. It was actually at track practice 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: when I had the first glimpse of what was to come. 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: And so I was doing a two hundred meter time trial, 98 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: which two hundred meters is half the track, and the 99 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: time trials just me and my coach, and I took 100 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: off and I was coming around the curve of the 101 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: track into the straight away and my hip broke and 102 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it at the time because I just 103 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: kind of came up limping. I thought maybe I pulled 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: a muscle. I'd never really been injured before. But it 105 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: took a couple of days and when I got a 106 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: scan down because I just couldn't turn my legs over. 107 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I went to see a pt and a physician and 108 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: they put the scan up, the X ray and it's 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: just my iliat crest bone was just floating off in space. 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, that's the problem right there. And what 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: I went through was something called standard of care. All right, 112 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: standard of care, which is not really looking at what 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: is the cause of this thing, but let's treat these symptoms, right. 114 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: So I got some insid some nonsteroidal into inflammatories. I 115 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: got some crutches, which was cool. I got to get 116 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: out of class early and take the school elevator. But 117 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: nobody stopped to ask, how did the kid break his 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: hip from running? And fast forward. I experienced almost a 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: dozen more injuries the next two years. I just couldn't 120 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: stay on the football field or on the track, and 121 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: my body was just breaking down, and so my vision 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: of playing at the next level was just vanquished. Fortunately, academically, 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of scholarships. I got to go 124 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: to school that I went to go to. I was 125 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna walk on and red shirt in football. But this 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: is where I get that diagnosis. So I was twenty 127 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: years old and I was diagnosed with something called degenerative 128 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: disc disease and degenerative bone disease, so basically an advanced 129 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: arthritic condition of my spine, and this is usually reserved 130 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: for people who are much older. And so I was 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty years old. The reason that I went into 132 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: the doctor was I just couldn't. I couldn't extend my leg. 133 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: I was always in a lot of pain, and whenever 134 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: I was stand up, I would get this like four 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: lightning bolt shooting down my leg and it was just miserable. 136 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: And if you can imagine this when you're in pain 137 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: when you stand up, how about you just don't stand 138 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: up right? So I was doing everything I could to 139 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: avoid standing up, and so I sat a lot. I 140 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: was constantly laying down or playing video games. I was 141 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: in college still, and it just got progressively worse because 142 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: your body really works on this use it or lose 143 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: it basis. So not only was my spine deteriorating, the 144 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: rest of me was atrophing as well. And so, to 145 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: really put the icing on the cake of the story, 146 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: when I went in and see my physician and he 147 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: gave me this diagnosis. He looked me right in my 148 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: eyes and he told me that this situation was incurable. 149 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Right because for me being an athlete, I was just like, 150 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: all right, what do we do to fix this? And 151 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: he put his hand on my shoulders like I'm sorry, son, 152 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: this is something that just happens, and I'm sorry it 153 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: happened to you, and that on my shoulders like I'm sorry, son, 154 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: this is something that just happens, and I'm sorry it 155 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: happened to you. And that today I realized that goes 156 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: against basic laws of physics, like there's nothing that just happens. 157 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: You know, there's a cause and effect. And I didn't. 158 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: It didn't register to me when he first said it. 159 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't make sense. So I rejected it, 160 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: and I asked him this specific question. Jay and I 161 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: have no grounds for asking him this question, but I 162 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: asked him, does this have anything to do with what 163 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm eating? Should I change the way that I'm exercising? 164 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: And he looked at me like I was from another planet. 165 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: He was like, this has nothing to do with what 166 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you're eating. This is something that just happens, and a 167 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: little sidebar, and I didn't talk about this for many years. 168 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: But you know, my physician, he was he was obese, 169 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: and he was clearly struggling with his own health. Not 170 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: to say that he wasn't qualified to give me advice, 171 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: but he was clearly struggling himself. But I took his 172 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: advice because he was the expert in him saying that 173 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: this was my lot in life. What he invoked with 174 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: something called a no Cbo effect, which we can come 175 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: back and talk about in a moment, but the bottom 176 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: line was he said that this has nothing to do 177 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: with what I'm eating. But he wrote me a prescription 178 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: to eat some pills. Right, This has nothing to do 179 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: with what you're putting in your mouth. Go ahead and 180 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: put these in your mouth. Right. And so that was 181 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: the level of thinking that I was dealing with. Fast 182 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: forward the story. After leaving there, I went from a 183 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: nuisance of a pain to chronic, debilitating pain. Right, because 184 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: now I know that I have this thing, this is 185 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: my identity. I'm this sick person. I'm going to be 186 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: in pain for the rest of my life. He told 187 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: me that. And so for the next two years, I 188 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: did as little as I possibly could, and he told me, 189 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: he gave me permission. That's the big thing. People don't realize. 190 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: If if you've been struggling your whole life and somebody 191 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: gives you permission to stop struggling, nobody's gonna blame you. 192 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: You got this bad thing that happened, just take this 193 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: free pass, this hall pass, and just ride it out. 194 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: It took two years, which you know, some people never 195 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: get it, and some people get it a little bit faster. 196 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: But it took me two years. And over these two years, 197 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: eating what I called the tough diet, a typical universe 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: the food, I was continuing the same behaviors, and I 199 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: gained a bunch of weight now because not only was 200 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: I eating the same things, but now I'm inactive, and 201 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: so I became much fluffier, i'd lovingly say, version of myself. 202 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: And I didn't recognize a person I saw in the mirror. 203 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: And that was one of those breaking moments for me. 204 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: It's just like I didn't even recognize who I was. 205 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: And after those two years, it's usually an event or 206 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: a person or something that becomes a catalyst for that change, 207 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: and for me, it was my grandmother, you know, and 208 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: she was always checking on me those two years. And 209 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: if you're a young kid, just like I'm fine, Grandma, 210 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: you know, but I wasn't fine, and she knew it. 211 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: She was the one who really advocated for me. She's 212 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the one who believed in me more than anybody, that 213 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I was going to do something great. And here I 214 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: was living in Ferguson, Missouri, in his one bedroom apartment, 215 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: sleeping on the mattress on the floor, overweight in chronic pain, 216 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: can't sleep at night, and my life didn't match up 217 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: to my blueprint of what success was to look like. 218 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: And so it was in that moment that I decided 219 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: to get well. And most people don't really get that, Jay, 220 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: It's just like it sounds so simple, right, But the 221 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: reality is oftentimes we don't decide. It's more like we'll 222 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: see what happens. It's like wishful thinking. It's like, you know, 223 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: I wish you know this would happen. But when you 224 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: decide something, you really cut away the possibility that of 225 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: anything else but that thing. And even the word if 226 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: you break it down, day meaning from and kaider, which 227 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: means to cut right. So you cut away the possibility 228 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: of anything else but that thing. And I decided to 229 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: get well. And so the last little part we could 230 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: talk about how I did this, but it was from 231 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: six weeks from that moment of decision, and I had 232 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: lost about eighteen pounds, which is not typical. But I 233 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: was always kind of the skinny kid in my family, 234 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: so my fat gene is definitely kicked on. But you know, 235 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: the weight just came off of me once I started 236 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: to implore a few really foundational principles, you know, with 237 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: my nutrition, with movement, and the pain I've been experiencing 238 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: that had me in terror for two years was gone. 239 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: And it was about nine months later when I got 240 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: a scan done and I completely reversed the degeneration. My 241 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: two herniated disc had retracted on their own. My bone 242 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: density was normal, and it was as if the thing 243 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: had never happened. So and by that experience happening to 244 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: me and seeing the stories of people coming up to 245 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: me at my university asking me to help them because 246 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: they saw the change. You know, I didn't look like 247 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: a guy who lost wait. I looked like somebody who's 248 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: really healthy. And to hear their stories, like people saying 249 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: telling them, you're going to live with this disease forever 250 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: diabetes or heart disease, you're you're gonna be on the 251 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: stat and whatever the case might be. And I had 252 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: this experience where I was told this negative thing was 253 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: going to be your story and to no longer have 254 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: that as my story. I had this level of authority 255 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: that I couldn't really put a finger on, and people 256 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: were attracted to that. So my life just went from 257 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: being very self centered in my pain to being other 258 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: centered and being of service. And I found every way 259 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: that I could to help others, and it landed me 260 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: here with you. That's a beautiful man. Thank you for 261 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: I know how hard it is to synthesize a life's 262 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: work in a few minutes. And of course I'm hoping 263 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: that everyone who's listening and watching is going to get 264 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: better acquainted with you if they're not already listeners. But 265 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by when you made that decision? What was 266 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: the first thing you did? Because I often find that, 267 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: first of all, it's hard to make the decision. When 268 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: you've made the decision, then the first thing you do 269 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: has such a big impact on momentum and acceleration. What 270 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: was the first thing you did that's so powerful? Jay 271 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: because the decision is instantaneous, but what takes long is 272 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: getting ourselves to the place where we make the decision right. 273 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: And so the first decision that I made, which I 274 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: didn't realize this consciously two years later, is I changed 275 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: the habitual question that I was asking. And today I 276 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: know that there's this really phenomenal process of the brain 277 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: evokes called instinctual elaboration. The human brain is always trying 278 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: to answer questions that we pose. It it's just automatic. 279 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: Our mutual friend Jim Quick, We've talked about this many times. 280 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: And the question that I was asking, was unconscious all 281 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: the time, was why me? Why is this happening to me? 282 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: Why won't somebody help me? And so my brain is 283 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: constantly scanning my internal and external environment to affirm why me, 284 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: Why I'm unhelpable, why I'm not deserving of being healthy? Right, 285 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: So I'm just getting all this data in as to 286 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: why my life sucks because I'm looking for it. And 287 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: so in that moment of decision, and again I wasn't aware, 288 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't consciously aware of this, but I just asked 289 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: this question, very simple ask. Instead of asking why, I 290 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: asked what can I do to feel better because I 291 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: just saw a series of other doctors, which I highly 292 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: encourage people to if you get a bad bill of 293 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: goods like that, get a second third opinion before taking 294 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: any drastic action. Because I was just talking with Tony 295 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: Robbins about this recently. But there was a big meta 296 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: analysis done by the Mayo Clinic and they found that 297 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: when you get that initial diagnosis, it's only the same. 298 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: Less than twenty percent of the time is the second 299 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: diagnosis the same as the first diagnosis, And often it's 300 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: radically different, all right, So it's somewhere in the ballpark 301 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: of like eighteen percent of the time it's the same. 302 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: So that being said, you also want to seek counsel 303 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: from somebody who's not in the same line of thinking 304 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: as well. You know, somebody all ideally who has the 305 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: same goal as you, Like, if you're diagnosed with this 306 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: thing and you don't want to have this thing, maybe 307 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: that's the person you need to go and talk to. 308 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: But I was seeking counsel from the same type of thinker. 309 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: I asked this question, what is it that I can 310 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: do to feel better? What is it that I can do? 311 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: And this was kind of an audacious thing to be 312 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: healthier than I've ever been. That night was the first 313 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: night that I slept through the night without medication in 314 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: those two years. I just felt this peace, you know, 315 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: when I woke up, and this is the thing too, 316 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: It's not like again, like a unicorn came out and 317 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: like the clouds parted and you know, it's happily. Ever after, 318 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: I put a plan together, and that plan unentailed three 319 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: specific things. The first thing was changing my nutrition. I 320 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: knew just on a very rudimentary level that I needed 321 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: to quote lose weight, right because I was just like, logically, 322 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: if I'm having this pressure on my disk, let me 323 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: take some of this pressure off by losing some of 324 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: this mass. And I'm carrying. But I'll be honest with you, 325 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: j the first thing that I did was slim fast, right, 326 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: So because of marketing, like I saw the TV, that's 327 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: what I was acclimated to. So it's like a shake 328 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: for breakfast, a shake for lunch, a sensible dinner, right. 329 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: And it was disgusting, all right, it was terrible. It 330 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: only worked for a couple of days that I did it. 331 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: But by me asking the questions, the right people, the 332 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: right situations, the right books start to show up and 333 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: oftentimes those things have been there the whole time, but 334 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: I just wasn't a tune to them. And I had 335 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: a friend of mine that I had known her for years, 336 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: and she was in chiropractic college and we just like 337 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: kicked it, you know. But and I just thought she 338 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: was weird, you know, with her and her friends, you know. 339 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: And she took me to wild oats, right, which has 340 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: since been brought up by Whole Foods. And so now 341 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm in this environment where I'm seeing all these different 342 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: supplements and foods and there's like grass inside. I'm like, 343 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: why is there grass inside? You know, a sweet grass. 344 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: But there was a book there, a nutrition prescription, and 345 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: it had all these peer of viewed And I was 346 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: in college, so I'm versed in research, especially doing what 347 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: I was doing in college. And there was peer of 348 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: viewed data on regenerating her nations and degenerative disc disease. 349 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: And there are all these nutrients that I had never 350 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: even heard of. Like all I knew about for bone density, 351 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: for example, was calcium. Because of marketing. There was like 352 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: a mega threes sulfur bearing, amino acid, silica, all these 353 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: other things that I wasn't getting anywhere in my drive 354 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: through diet, and so I started to again. I went 355 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: from slim fast to being a natural pill popper. Right, 356 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: So it's just like I need these nutrients. Let me 357 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: just take these supplements again missing the market's taking steps 358 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: towards it, and ultimately, of course that's very expensive. But 359 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: I finally realize, like, what if humans been doing the longest. 360 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: We're getting these nutrients through food, not synthetic, isolated versions 361 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: of those things. So I started to seek out all 362 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: the foods that had these nutrients and just begin to 363 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: like flood my system with these foods. So that was 364 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: number one. I changed what I was eating and literally 365 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: and there's a I've got to share this now, but 366 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: we'll probably circle back to this as one of the 367 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: most important tenants. Every single cell in our body is 368 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: made from the food that we eat, every cell, and 369 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: so we have the ability to make our bodies out 370 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: of really low quality materials or out of the best 371 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: stuff possible, you know. And so I was making my 372 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: tissues out of absolute garbage. I'm not exaggerating the slightest. 373 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: I fast food every day every day because again I 374 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: lived in Ferguson Missouri. I was surrounded by low quality 375 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: food and processed food and liquor stores, and that's all 376 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: I knew, right, And it was cheap. Again, being on 377 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: a college budget, that's what I could afford, which we 378 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: got to talk about that the economy is a scale too. 379 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: So anyway, so I'm flooding my tissues with really high 380 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: quality stuff now. And the body is so intelligent once 381 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: you give it the right materials, it knows what to do. 382 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: It's often just us getting out of the way. And 383 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: so that was one number two. The low hanging fruit 384 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: for me that I had some education on was movement 385 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: and exercise and being in pain. The worst thing to 386 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: do is to do nothing. There is a time when 387 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: you know you have a state of inflammation, like if 388 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: I have these two hernated disks, I'm not going to 389 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: go in deadlift, you know, three fifteen. That's not a 390 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: good idea. But after a couple of days and I'm functional, 391 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: I need to do something because the body movement is 392 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: one of the primary drivers of healing, of assimilation of nutrients, 393 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: of elimination of metabolic waste products. All these different things 394 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: require movement, right, Life is movement, and so I just 395 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: went to the gym at the university gym. Just did 396 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: what I can, which was I started off on a 397 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: stationary bike. A week later, I started doing a little 398 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: bit walking on the treadmill. A week later I picked 399 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: up a couple of weights, and all of that was 400 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: driving the good nutrition I was bringing in deeper into 401 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: my cells. Right. And the third thing was my biggest 402 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: struggle that two years was sleeping at night. And I 403 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: was just like, I gotta find a way to get 404 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: some rest because I was chronically tired, and I didn't 405 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: have to try to do that. One A principle from 406 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: my first book, Sleep Morner, is that a great night 407 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: of sleep starts the moment you wake up in the morning. Right. 408 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: So all these good things I was doing, exercising, changing 409 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: my nutrition and getting access to sunlight, all these really 410 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: simple things led to me sleeping better in the evening. 411 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: And once I started sleeping, I got better so fast. 412 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: Because it is the most anabolic stage that a human 413 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: being can be in outside of meditation. Everything else is 414 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: really catabolic. If you're up and active, you're catabolic. And 415 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: so this is where your body's producing all these regenerative 416 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: hormones and HGH and reparative enzymes, you know, once my 417 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: sleep improved, and my movement practice. But of course the 418 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: biggest thing was my mind, you know, my change and 419 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: perception of all these things. But that's really what the 420 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: first domino was, was changing the question and the right 421 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: stuff that was already there. I can now see. I 422 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: love how you've simplified it into the diet and nutrition, 423 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: the sleep, and then of course the movement aspect, which 424 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: you know, the three key tenants and then grouped by 425 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: the mindset and the approach. I want to dive into 426 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: some of those amazing insights that you share in this book, 427 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: because I think, as you rightly said, our understanding of food, nutrients, vitamins, 428 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: supplements has been so rudimentary for so long, and even today, 429 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: I think, as you rightly said, there's so much being 430 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: marketed at us that you kind of follow the latest 431 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: trend or the latest diet or the latest fad, only 432 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: to find that it's not sustainable or that it doesn't 433 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: really cure how you're feeling. And I think we've started 434 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: to realize that food can change how you feel. And 435 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we thought about it. We thought food 436 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: is energy and you just keep putting it and I 437 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: love the idea of how we're building ourselves through bad 438 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: materials or good materials. Why is it important, as you 439 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: talk about in the book, to use power of food 440 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: to reboot your metabolism? What are the benefits of rebooting 441 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: your metabolism? And what are methods through diet and nutrition 442 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: that boost our metabolism? For everyone listening, it should always 443 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: be what is the thing? Right, So when we hear 444 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: these terms like metabolism, we often have a certain association 445 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: with it, that's my point. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, So it's 446 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: usually going to be tied to weight loss, and it's 447 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: a huge mistake because metabolism is really every thing. There's 448 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: a whole field of immunometabolism. You know, your immune system 449 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: has its own metabolism, where it's building new immune cells, 450 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: where it's functioning at a certain level, where there's cellular 451 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: waste products, and the list goes on and on. All 452 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: these things are metabolism. So life itself is driven by metabolism. 453 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: But this is a huge mistake, even in the weight 454 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: loss domain, when we're just thinking about food and nutrition 455 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: and diet in terms of changing our metabolism. And this 456 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: is why with the book, I gave people what they want, 457 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: which again that's the on ramp, right, But food controls 458 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: so much more than just our metabolism. It also controls 459 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: our cognitive function. Our emotional intelligence is highly influenced by 460 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: our nutrition. That's one of the main things I wanted 461 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: to talk with you about as well. And also it 462 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: affects our relationships and how we relate to other people. 463 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. Food isn't just food, 464 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: it's information, you know. And so as far as the 465 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: metabolism side is concerned, what I wanted to do was 466 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: break down how the process of metabolism actually works. How 467 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: does weight loss work right? How does fat loss work? 468 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: Where does fat go? Like when I quote lose weight, 469 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: where the hell's the weight go? You know what I mean? 470 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: So I'm taking people through that process and I use 471 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: analogies to make it make sense. Because one of the 472 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: things I learned from Tony was one of the fastest 473 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: ways of learning, which I was doing this but I 474 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't realize it. It takes something that you don't know 475 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: and connected to something that you do know, right, And 476 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: so I use this analogy of going to the movies 477 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: and using it as a cellular movie theater and how 478 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: the process of fat loss actually works. And so we've 479 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: got these key ushers that are making things happen. You know, 480 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: you come into the movie theater and you've got these 481 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: specific enzymes. So we've got hormone sensitive light paise for example, 482 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: and hormone sensitive light paise is the enzyme required to 483 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: actually open up your cell so that it releases stored energy. 484 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: You know, try to list arise stored fat to be 485 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: used for fuel. Nothing's happening without this usher, all right, 486 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: So that's required. Then we've got another usher who's putting 487 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: fat in the seats right, lightboprotein lightpase right, and so 488 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: but then we've got the managers of the ushers, which 489 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: are insulin and glucagon. Which there's so much more, but 490 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: I'm just giving a little snapshot. This is great. I 491 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: love this analogy. It's a brilliant analogy. So it's making 492 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: it makes sense to me. So that's a good thing. 493 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm the dummy in the room, is Yeah. So insulin 494 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: and glucagon they're actually brothers, right, So they're both from 495 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: their loving mother, miss Pancreas. All right, So insulin is 496 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: really about management and always looking for the worst possible scenario, right, 497 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: So they're all about saving up for a rainy day, 498 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: gets storing as much as possible so we're all safe 499 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: and we're all good. Glucagon is more of a free thinker, 500 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: more of a you know, go with the flow type 501 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: of vibe, and it's cool with letting go of some 502 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: of this store and energy, and so glucagon to make 503 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: a summation of the So insulin is the biggest hormonal 504 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: driver of us storing fat in our cells or storing 505 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: energy in our cells. When people hear the word insulin, 506 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: we often think about diabetes, right because a lack type 507 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: one diabetes is a lack of producing insulin. The mother 508 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: pancrea is the beta cells are not producing insulin, which 509 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: is absolutely horrendous. This means your cells can't get energy 510 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: and you'll literally just wither away. It's a terrible way 511 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: to die. Type two diabetes, which is most prevalent here 512 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: the United States. Right now in the United States, about 513 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty million citizens here in the US 514 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: have type two diabetes or pre diabetes. It's insane. But 515 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: this is not a condition where you're no longer producing insulin. 516 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: This is a condition where your insulin sensitivity, the ability 517 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: of that cell to get the signal has been tampered down, 518 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: right because insulin has been so abundant, because the blood 519 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: sugar has been so abundant, right, And so it's but 520 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing, and it's a really beautiful thing that 521 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: even a condition like that, it's the body adapting to 522 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: keep you alive. So type two diabetes and we get 523 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: this label that you have this chronic disease and you're 524 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: no good or you know, you're tainted or you're broken, 525 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: it's actually this really intelligent adaptation by the human body 526 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: because it's adapting the way that your metabolism works under 527 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: unideal circumstances. Right. So it's beautiful, it's amazing. The problem, however, 528 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: is that we've been led to believe that that is 529 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: the end story, that your body is stupid and it 530 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: can't shift and create another expression. And so now it's 531 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: common knowledge back in the day. I've been in this 532 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: field almost twenty years. I'm about to hit my twenty 533 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: year anniversary, and we couldn't publicly say even another friend 534 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: Mark Hyman, like, you've got to be very careful saying 535 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: cure diabetes. Right today, it's common knowledge that you can 536 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: reverse this condition. So we've got insulin driving people into 537 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: the seats, right, keeping the theater full, and we got 538 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: gluca open up the doors to allow people to go 539 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: out and kick it at an afterparty. Right. So these 540 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: are two big hormonal drivers of metabolism. We've got some 541 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: enzymatic ones I hit a little bit, but then we've 542 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: got the internal cashier as well, which is your liver 543 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: in many ways, so people don't think about these things, 544 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: and this beautiful dance has taken place, like we just 545 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: want to get that fat off, right, and oftentimes we 546 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: associate that with like really working hard, right, restricting, cutting 547 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: things away. You can't have deprivation, right, all those things. 548 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: Those terms don't feel good, right, It's very against human nature. 549 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: And on the other side, you have to abuse yourself. 550 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: You have to exercise your face off, you've got to 551 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: just you know this tenant that I was taught in 552 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: my universe. I paid for this education Jay at a 553 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: private at a private university. The first day of school 554 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: in this big auditorium nutritional science class, the teacher told 555 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: us that if you want to manage your metabolism, if 556 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: you want to manage your body weight, just manage your calories. 557 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: That's all you have to do is control the calories. Right, 558 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: he was overweighted as well, by the way, all right, 559 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: and now again it's not that he's trying to be 560 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: in a fais. This is what he learned. And at 561 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: the time, we were in the food pyramid, all right. 562 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: So this is when I went to school back in 563 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: this was ninety seven. It's changed a little bit, like 564 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: we went from like the food pyramid to my plate, 565 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: but still really the same principles. But to say that 566 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: calories control everything about you or your metabolism or your 567 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: ability to lose weight is very myopic. It's tunnel vision 568 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: and people don't really realize. And that's what I spent 569 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: the nice segment of the book really diving into the 570 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: beautiful history behind calories and like, how is that a 571 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: thing that people plant this flag? And I know this. 572 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: I was one of them, right, being a nutritional scientist 573 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: and also somebody who's working as a strength and conditioning 574 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: coach at the university. I was just replicating and regurgitating 575 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: what I was taught, and it worked for some people 576 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: not for others. And so what I did was I 577 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: brought to bear this new term. It's called epichloric right. So, 578 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: and this was a pivot from my friend Bruce Lipton, 579 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: doctor Bruce Lipton. I don't know if you've talked to 580 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: him before, the biology of belief, right, So epigenetics, right, 581 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: So this is he's the person more than anybody's pushing 582 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: into popular culture. That means above genetic control, right, but 583 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: epichloric control, it's above caloric control. There are certain principles 584 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: that control your what your body does with the calories 585 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: you consume. And this would be so logical if we 586 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: think about it. And so just a couple of those. 587 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: One of those is the quality of food itself. All right, 588 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: So we hear this that not all calories are created equal, 589 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: but we have really sound science on this. Now I 590 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: share one of the studies in the book, and again 591 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: this was a peer reviewed study, And what they did 592 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: was they took test subjects and they wanted to see 593 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: what would happen with their metabolism when they eat a 594 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: meal of processed foods versus a meal of whole foods. Right, 595 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: and so the process food they're both sandwiches, by the way, 596 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: all right, So it's not like superglorified process versus. But 597 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: the whole food sandwich was whole grain bread and cheddar cheese. 598 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: The processed food sandwich was white bread and cheese product. 599 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: And cheese product is what most people are eating. That's 600 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: like craft. They can't legally call it cheese. It's called 601 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: Kraft singles. There's not enough cheese and the cheese, you know, 602 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: which is really messed up. Wow. Yeah. And so they 603 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: consume each of these sandwiches and they track their caloric expenditure. Right. So, 604 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: and this is something to get to just the end 605 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: part of like where does the weight go? We breathe. 606 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: Most of the weight that we lose out, we expel 607 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: it through our lungs. Our lungs are on also excretion 608 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: organ as well. We don't really think about that, but 609 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: they are. And so anyways, so they're tracking the outgo 610 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: of energy after eating these two sandwiches. And what they 611 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: found was that people eating when they eat the processed 612 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: food sandwich, there's a fifty percent reduction in their body's 613 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: expenditure of calories. Something happened by eating that food that 614 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: made their body hold onto more of the energy they 615 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: just consumed. And what it really was a hormonal clog. 616 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: To put it in a simple term, it changed the 617 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: hormonal cascade, neurotransmitter cascade organ function in a way that 618 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: made the body more stingy and holding onto this very 619 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: abnormal energy that was coming in. And so again, fifty 620 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: percent reduction is massive. And how often are people trying 621 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: to lose weight counting calories but eating processed foods, counting 622 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: the point system and all these things which can be wonderful, 623 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: but we have to address the food quality. So this 624 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: was publishing food and nutrition research. By the way, if yeah, 625 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: that's fascinating, I'm so glad you shared that with me, 626 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: because yeah, it's easy to be like this is healthy food, 627 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: this is unhealthy food. But it's even deeper than that. 628 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: And I think the gold standard, which I think you set, 629 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: which I really identify with, is I just know I 630 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: want to be healthier. Like what I've been saying is 631 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: I want to be healthier. I want to be more 632 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: informed because if something happens to me, I don't want 633 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: it to be something that I can and will continue 634 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: to want it to because I want to be as 635 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: healthy as I can continue to do my service in 636 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: the world. Likes that's where my past, my intention goes. 637 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: I know, one of the things that people are struggling 638 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: with a lot right now is inflammation. Right, And you 639 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: talk about the microbiome in the book as well in 640 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: the Connection, But walk me through where inflammation is created 641 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: from and how it connects to the microbiome in the book. Yeah, 642 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: the term again, what is it? Yeah, inflammation? The term 643 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: itself is derived from the word essentially meaning to set 644 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: on fire. Right, So there's this fire taking place in 645 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: the human body. And just to lean and connect inflammation 646 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: to metabolism, let's do that. One of the studies that 647 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: I referred to as well was looking at and this 648 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: was published in the Annals of the New York Academy 649 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: of Sciences, and they were looking at what was happening 650 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: with inflammation in the brain leading to accelerated weight gain. 651 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: Right now, this is another thing when people are trying 652 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: to lose weight, nobody's telling them, we need to deal 653 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: with the inflammation in your brain. And so what the 654 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: researchers uncovered was that essentially inflammation in the brain was 655 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: leading to more belly fhat accumulation and more disruption to 656 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: their metabolism. But the key was more belly fat accumulation 657 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: and obesity. Once people were venturing into obesity, it was 658 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: leading to more brain inflammation. So this becomes this vicious circle, right, 659 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: and again we're not looking at we need to address 660 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: the inflammation in your brain. Why is this happening when 661 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: your brain is controlling your body far more than anything else, 662 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: and there's an internal thermostat that's even controlling your metabolic rate, 663 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: which is based in your hypothalamus, which kind of considered 664 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: the master gland of the body. And the hypothalamus not 665 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: only is kind of like a thermostat for your metabolism, 666 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: but also it's a thermostat for your body temperature, for 667 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: your sleep cycles, and the list goes on. It's like 668 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: a circadian controller, right, Circadian medicine is popping right out too, 669 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: and so paying attention and so specifically the researchers were 670 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: denoting hypothalamic inflammation leading to all these problems. So what's 671 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: causing that brain inflammation. Obesity in and of itself is 672 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: increasing the rate of inflammation. So right now in the 673 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: United States, we're knocking on the door of two hundred 674 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: and fifty million of our citizens being overweight or obese. Right, 675 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: it's beyond epidemic. It's it's insane, rest assured. If we're 676 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: venturing into obesity, your brain is suffering because of it. 677 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: And I also noted in another study where we're seeing 678 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: this correlation. I talked to Daniel Aman who wrote that, 679 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, keep it on the podcast twice. Yeah, I 680 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: love him so much, but he's accumulated so much data. 681 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: But there's also some period studies as well, looking at 682 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: once our waist size is increasing is correlated with a 683 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: decrease in our brain size. So as our wat circumference 684 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: goes up, our brain size goes down the volume of 685 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: our brain, which is not good at all. And so 686 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: there's this huge connection with these two. But also what's 687 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: driving this inflammation is the foods that we're eating obviously 688 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: as well an obesity self. Just to give a little snapshot, like, 689 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: how's that work? How's obesity creating more information? Our fat 690 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: cells are pretty they're pretty damn amazing. If without our 691 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: fat cells being as intelligent as they are, we wouldn't 692 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: have made it as humanity. It enabled us to go 693 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: through times of famine and still survive. But here's the thing. 694 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: We live in a very different time now where more 695 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: people are dying from excess than from deprivation, right, and 696 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: so during this time of excess, our fat cells can 697 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: actually grow. When thousand times their size rights it gets crazy. 698 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: They're like, Wow, I don't want to disrespect them by 699 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: calling little trash cans, but they're kind of like these 700 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: internal trash cans that can keep collecting. Yeah, it's like 701 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: these halfty, halfty cent sacks, like really good trash bags 702 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: that are filling up. And as that happens, it's sending 703 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: out a distress signal because the fat cells were never 704 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: made to contain that much stored energy, and so it's 705 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: sending out a kind of a false distress signal to 706 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: your immune system thinking that you're infected. You know, your 707 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: fat cells are chronically infected. This is why we see 708 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: epidemic levels of inflammation measured by things like C reactive 709 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: protein and folks as we venture into obesity. So the 710 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: fat cells themselves are a big contributor to inflammation. But 711 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: to lean into food a little bit one of the 712 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: biggest culprits as being highlighted today. And there's with any 713 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: of the stuff I talk about, Jay, there's always conflicting 714 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: it from that and the average person doesn't though, you know, 715 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: it's just like this is the end all be all. 716 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: What I do is, I'm a research scientist. Primarily, I'll 717 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: go and proactively look for things that rebuke what I believe, 718 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: that prove what I'm saying other otherwise or other than. 719 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: And you have it takes a lot of courage to 720 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: go and look for things to prove you wrong. But 721 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: what I'll do is I'll look at the variety of 722 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: information and what is the majority of data that we 723 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: have say that's a better place for us to stand 724 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: on and educate from right. But one of the biggest culprits, 725 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: and this is what the majority of data says is 726 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: these highly refined mind oxidized seed oils that have become 727 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: so prevalent in our food system. And again, I get 728 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: to work with the best people in the world in 729 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: these subjects, like doctor Kate Shanahan. It's really a pioneering 730 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: voice in this field. And she's you know, she worked 731 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: with the Lakers and help with Kobe Bryant, got him 732 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: all these protocols, extending his career, all these great things, 733 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: and so she has that fame and credibility there. But 734 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: she's also a brilliant scientist and somebody who's very versed 735 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: in metabolism. But one of the things that she shared 736 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: with me was that this particular study, which was crazy, 737 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: they looked at the biopsies, right, so you can actually 738 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: go and look inside of what a fat cell contains 739 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: back in the earlier part of the nineteen hundreds and 740 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: saw what is the makeup of the average person's fat cell. 741 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: And about two percent of our fat cells back then 742 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: were made of these polyunsaturated fatty acids or poofaus. Right today, 743 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: the amount of polyunsaturated fatty acids that make up the 744 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: average person's fat cell is up to twenty five or 745 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: even thirty percent. Went from two percent to twenty so 746 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: literally the ingredients that make us as a species has 747 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: changed dramatically. And what is it about these particular facts, 748 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: Like how is so much of it making up the 749 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: ingredients that make us up? And it's because they're in everything. 750 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: They're very cheap, they're rancid oxidized oil, they have no 751 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: choice but to be those things like getting the oil 752 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: from corn, Like there's so little and if people saw 753 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: the process, which I highly encourage people to do, there's 754 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: lots of videos you could see the processing of canola 755 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: oil or quote vegetable oil. I remember when my mom 756 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: started using vegetable oil trying to get healthy because my family, again, 757 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: I was the skinny kid in the family. Everybody pretty 758 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: much everybody else in my family at least about eighty 759 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: percent of folks world beats, and so she started using 760 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: vegetable oil. Sounds healthy, but it's not asparagus oil or 761 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: broccoli oil. These are highly refined seed oils, corn oil, 762 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: soy oil, canola oil. And to extract those oils there, 763 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: it kind of looks like just mud. It just looks disgusting. 764 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: It looks like this um like kind of like almost 765 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: like gasoline type vibe to it. And it has to 766 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: use bleaching agents and deodorizers. And I cited a study 767 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: in my book, and this was publishing the journal Inhalation Toxicology, 768 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: and they found that just smelling those oils while cooking 769 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: can damage your DNA. Crazy stuff smell, just inhaling the 770 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: fumes from it let alone actually pretty head. Yes, yes, 771 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: so it's crazy. It's so crazy. And so for me, 772 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: it's just looking like this specific component your body has 773 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: to go into this kind of pro inflammatory state to 774 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: try to manage any insult. Inflammation is one of the 775 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: most important things for our survival. It's kind of been 776 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: given a bad name right now because we're dealing with 777 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: chronic inflammation, but we need inflammation in order to to 778 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: just heal for stuff you don't even know what's going on. 779 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: There are cells right now in your body that are 780 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: dying off and recycling. There's always an inflammatory component catabolic component, 781 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: and that's okay. But once we venture into chronic inflamation, 782 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: where these things are getting out of hand, that's where 783 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 1: we start to see all manner of things go wrong. Wow, 784 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean you know what I've I find it so 785 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: useful to be having this conversation with you because, and 786 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: I hope everyone who's listening and watching, I'm trying to 787 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: ask the questions that I think we skip. What does 788 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: this actually mean? How does it actually affect us? Because 789 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: right now we hear all these buzzwords and we look 790 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: for the quick fix, or I have go inflammation, or 791 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: I do this to you know, alcoholize it, I've got this, 792 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: do this, it's like, and we're always looking at that 793 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: quick fix, that quick when the quick solve, and actually, 794 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: when I'm sitting here listening to you, I'm going, wow, 795 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: there is just of course, naturally there's so much more 796 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: to it, but we have to be so much more 797 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: alert and vigilant, which is where we struggle because it's 798 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: almost like there is no veniance now because there's all 799 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: this information. Like you said, there's conflicting information. So if 800 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm listening to this show right now and I want 801 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: to create more energy in my life, I want to 802 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: create more vibrancy in how I feel. What are some 803 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: of the things that were likely missing or that we're 804 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: likely struggling with in our diet or nutritionally that we 805 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: could add to help start that process of at least 806 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: feeling a bit more positive, like we have a bit 807 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: more control. We could stay right in the same lane 808 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: and just swap out the oils that we're using with 809 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: some intention. Researchers at Auburn found that olive oil OIO 810 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: canthal rich extra virgin olive oil is one of the 811 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: few things that's been found to be highly effective at 812 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: reducing information of the brain right and also being able 813 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: to help to heal the blood brain barrier. So what 814 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: does this mean? The blood brain barrier is kind of 815 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: like Matiokaku's kind of like a modern day Einstein, right. 816 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: He was like, the human brain is the most complicated 817 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: object in the known universe. That's big for him to 818 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: say something like that. That's really remarkable. The human brain 819 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: is the most complicated object in the known universe, right, 820 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: And the cool thing is we all have one. We're 821 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: never very good at using it, but we all have 822 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: this really miraculous organ and your body is very protective 823 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: of it because again, it's controlling everything about She's controlling 824 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: your metabolism. For example. It's the only major organ is 825 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: fully encased in hard in hard bone, right, So it's 826 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: we've got this built in helmet to try to protect it. 827 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: We've got the blood brain barrier, because everything that we eat. 828 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: The last place to actually allow nutrient sane, it's going 829 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: to be your brain, right, because it has a blood 830 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: brain Barrier's kind of like an internal security system, or 831 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: I like to think about it like a toll boot. Right, 832 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: So certain certain nutrients get express pass. Right, if anybody 833 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: ever has lived where they have tolls, and you get 834 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: an express pass that can go right into the brain. 835 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: Most other things they're going to meet the toll booth 836 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: and they're not going to be able to get through 837 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: because the guard there's like you know, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, 838 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: it's like clones of him and Vin Diesel or whatever. 839 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: So it's just like highly unlikely that you can get 840 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: into the brain. It's very it's like an exclusive club. 841 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: It's very exclusive. And so to make it into the brain, 842 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: only specific things are able to do that. One of 843 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: the big issues today leading to more information is the degradation. 844 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: We're breaking down our own blood brain barrier, this internal 845 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: security system by eating all these abnormal foods. The blood 846 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: brain barrier, a big aspect of its regulation is through 847 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: the fast that we consume, right and so again eating 848 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: these really low quality oils and making ourselves out of 849 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: these things, we're degrading how our body functions. And so 850 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: what the researchers found again was that extra virgin oleocanthal 851 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 1: rich olive oil is one of those foods that's really 852 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: healing and anti inflammatory and also can help to heal 853 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: the blood brain barrier. That's crazy because for me, again, 854 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: like I don't have a dog in the fight. I 855 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: don't care if olive oil is cool or not. I 856 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: it's I don't care. It's so miraculous. But then you 857 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: just look at what if humans been doing the longest, 858 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: and how do you make olive oil? You crush olives. 859 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: That's it. It's not like the process that these other oils, 860 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: these seed oils have to go through again with the 861 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: deodor risers and the bleaching agents and the high heat. 862 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, extra virgin olive oil that 863 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: means that it's not heat processed all right, So it's 864 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: even paying attention to the very volatile nature of those 865 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: fats and it's stored in dark glass bottles because it's 866 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 1: even photosensitive. It's light sensitive, can break down and degrade 867 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: those oils, right. So and humans, we have documentation for 868 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: thousands of years have been consuming olive oil, right, And 869 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: so that's one of the great principles to lean back into, 870 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 1: which is like, what if human's been doing the longest, 871 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 1: let's do that, you know what got us here, because 872 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 1: what we're doing now is not working. Right, So that's 873 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: one of the great foods that can help to reduce inflammation. 874 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: So swapping out those oils being intentional about it, the 875 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: best way to consume these oils is going to be 876 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: through like finishing dishes, like adding some olive oil on 877 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: top or using it to make solids. Cooking with it, 878 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: you can moderate heat is okay, But for cooking we 879 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: need things that have more saturation, that are more stable 880 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: so they're not giving off all of these these kind 881 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: of pro inflammatory oxidative compounds. Right, So that would be 882 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: like coconut oil or gee or grass fed butter Avocado 883 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: oil is also rising in popularity now as well. But 884 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: just to throw a couple more for reducing information, the 885 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: cruciferous family of vegetables have been found to reduce information 886 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: specifically in the brain. Broccoli. You know again, I put 887 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: peer of viewed data to show that this food that's 888 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: just like super common can help to reduce brain information. Right, 889 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I can go on and on, but those 890 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: are things. No, No, this is fantastic. And I want 891 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: everyone who's listening and watching to know that all these reviews, 892 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: the research is in the book Eat Smarter, which is 893 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: what Sean's referencing. If you are listening and you don't 894 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: see me holding the cover and holding the book, you 895 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: can order it right now. And I deeply recommend that 896 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: because the level of detail of insight that Sean has 897 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: is so powerful it should not be underestimated. This isn't 898 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: a new diet book or a fad book on like, 899 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,479 Speaker 1: you know, here's what you need to do, three things 900 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 1: you need to do tomorrow. It's not like that. There 901 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: is like deep research, reflection, introspection that Sean's done and 902 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: study he's done, and so you know, I'm going in 903 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: and allowing him to share depth on certain parts. But 904 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 1: the book is full of these insights. Shan. I want 905 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: to talk a bit about stress and the brain and 906 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: then diet because you also talk about the impact of 907 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: food on the brain. Brain on food, but also our 908 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: emotional states. We all know what emotional eating is. We've 909 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: all picked up a tub of ice cream or picked 910 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: up sugars when we're lowing energy or you know, we've 911 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: been there. We may even get drawn in that direction 912 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: still today. One thing I find intriguing that I'd love 913 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: to learn from you is how much is stress in 914 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: the brain causing some of these challenges within the body, 915 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: And can food be used to work backwards almost or 916 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: distress need to be dealt with in different ways. Yeah, 917 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: that's such a great question. Again, what is stress? We 918 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: have to look at that, and we tend to put 919 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: stress in this one box. Cognitively, most times people associated 920 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: with like life, stress work, stress work is stressing me out, 921 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: our relationship is stressing me out. But those are just 922 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: a couple of factors that go into your overall stress 923 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: load as a human being. So all of these inputs 924 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: are stressors. And for example, exercise is a stressor, and 925 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: it's known as a hermitic stressor, which that means that 926 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: if you're able to recover from said exercise, you get benefit, 927 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: right kind of like what doesn't kill me makes me 928 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 1: stronger principle. Right. But if you put on intense exercise 929 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 1: on top of relationship stress, work, stress, spiritual stress, right, 930 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: feeling not on purpose or cut adrift or disconnected, you 931 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: add that onto diet stress, the stress coming from the 932 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: abnormal food you may be consuming. The environmental stress right 933 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: right now, this is dope, Like we can record, We 934 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: got all this technology, but all of these energies are 935 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: just running in and out of ourselves at paces and 936 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: degrees that we just don't it then yet, right, So 937 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: we're all intermingling with these energies that we've never been 938 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: exposed to again as humans. So the environment itself is 939 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: going to be adding an additional stress. Gravity. Gravity's trying 940 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: to kill you, like you literally is trying to weigh 941 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: us down, you know in a sense if you want 942 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: to look at it like that. But we are resilient. 943 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: We've adapted to it, you know. But the John Carter, 944 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know about that. That that book, 945 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: and that's that movie Disney. It didn't do very well, 946 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: but I think it's on Disney plus John Carter. So 947 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: this guy teleports accidentally, like from Civil War Vibes to 948 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: being on Mars. And on Mars, he's like superhuman because 949 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: gravity is different, so he's like jumping around, you know, 950 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: like it's it's really cool to think about. Gravity has 951 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: conditioned us in a certain way, and we were resilient 952 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: against it. So environmental stress goes on there, and I 953 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: can go on and on. All of these stress inputs 954 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: create your overall stress load as a human being. Now, 955 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: the issue is that, man, I've had to coortunity to 956 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 1: work with so many people in a one on one context, 957 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 1: but you know, groups and the books and all the stuff. 958 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: But the most overlooked thing that I've seen when people 959 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 1: are wanting to, you know, get off of their blood 960 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: press pressure medication that the centepreals or the statins or 961 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, metform it for diabetes or their antidepressants, whatever 962 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: it might be. The nutrition and the exercise can only 963 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: go so far. The number one thing that I've seen 964 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: that people overlook is the impact of stress. Because you 965 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: can over eat your way into disease, you can undermove 966 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: your way into disease. You can undersleep your way into 967 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,720 Speaker 1: these disease. You can also overstress your way into disease. 968 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: The problem is that stress is invisible, you know, in 969 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: a sense, like exercise, we know what that is, like, 970 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: it's physical, we're interacting with it. Food is like you're 971 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,919 Speaker 1: putting stuff in like it's it's it's visceral, it's something 972 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: you could touch. Because stress doesn't have that aspect, we 973 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: negate it. But truly, and just to kind of loop 974 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 1: back to the story with that physician and then bolt wow. 975 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 1: So everybody's heard at this point of the placebo effect, 976 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, to some degree, I was going to come 977 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: back to this. I'm glad you've gone and this it's amazing, right, 978 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: it's amazing. So just on average, if we look at 979 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: the breadth of pre viewed data that we have on average, 980 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: placebos are about thirty percent effective in clinical trials. So 981 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: fake drugs, sham surgeries, fake treatments are about thirty percent 982 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 1: effective on average. Studies much higher, like eighty percent effective 983 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: in some studies on antidepressants. People are not actually getting 984 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: something that has a real treatment. They just believe that 985 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 1: they're taking the drug. Now, this is very important. It 986 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 1: has to becoming No, it doesn't. He doesn't have to. 987 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: But in these trials are coming from an authority figure. Right. 988 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that I talk about 989 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: in the book is the impact that your thoughts have 990 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,359 Speaker 1: on your body's metabolism. Right. So this was done by 991 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: doctor Alia Crumb and her team at Stanford at the time, 992 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: and it was the Milkshake Study. And so they blended 993 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: up these milkshakes and they labeled them different different amounts 994 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: of calories even though they were all the same. So 995 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: some of them were the indulgent milkshakes they labeled like 996 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: seven hundred calories, some were you the smart shakes, where 997 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: they labeled they like two hundred calories, but all of 998 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: them were really like four hundred and fifty calories or 999 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: something like that. And so what they found was that 1000 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: people who believed they were having the indulgent milkshake, they 1001 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: had a much greater secretion or suppression of grillan, the 1002 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: hunger hormone. Right, so they're more satiated because they believe 1003 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: they're consuming something it has a lot more caloric energy. 1004 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: And on the other side, the people who thought they 1005 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: were eating the sense of Shake, the sensible milkshake, their 1006 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: grillan levels didn't budge at all, which means they're going 1007 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: to be hungry again very soon after having that milkshake. Right. 1008 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: So that's the power of the mind to literally manipulate 1009 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: your metabolit just in that one snapshot. And I've got 1010 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 1: so much more data, right, so your thoughts determine what's 1011 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: happening with your metabolism. So going back to the placebo effect, 1012 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: so placebo's being again, we've got data. A great book 1013 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: is Mind over Medicine doctor Lissa Rankin. So many studies 1014 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: in there, but we've got data on placebo's being effective 1015 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:25,280 Speaker 1: and cancer treatments in surgeries for knees like MCL repair 1016 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: like we've got there's there's so many crazy studies where 1017 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: you know they'll because now you could even watch your 1018 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: surgery where there's somebody will be watching their own surgery, 1019 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: but what they're doing is they're playing a different video, right, 1020 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: So they'll cut the person's knee open and just seal 1021 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: it back up without doing any actual you know, a 1022 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: therapeutic change, and their knee problem will heal right, oftentimes 1023 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: better than the people who had the actual surgery, you know, 1024 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: the surgical change and intervention. So I know this sounds crazy, 1025 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: and these are things for me. I'm a very analytical, 1026 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: logical person, so I wouldn't believe it unless I saw 1027 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 1: the data myself. So that's the power of the human mind, 1028 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: just a snapshot. Now here's the other thing. I don't 1029 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: want to call them evil, but there's a there's an 1030 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: evil twin to the placebo effect. It's called a no 1031 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: cebo effect. This is when you get a negative injunction 1032 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: that something bad is going to happen. So Placebo is 1033 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: saying you're gonna get this therapeutic benefit. You're gonna take this, 1034 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: and your blood pressure is going to normalize, your depression 1035 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,720 Speaker 1: is going to go away, your cancer is going to dissolve. 1036 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: A no Cbo effect is saying this is incurable. You 1037 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: have six weeks to live. You'll never walk again, right, 1038 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: So these injunctions from an authority figure. And there's another 1039 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: study I excited from Alia CROM's team. They did a 1040 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: skin prick test where they used a histamine, you know, 1041 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: a histamine stimulator to create a rash on people's skin, 1042 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: and then they had an inert cream and they told 1043 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: the test subjects either this cream is going to make 1044 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: your rash worse or this cream is going to make 1045 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: your rash better. It's different, people told different things. Now, 1046 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: what happened was and this was true for like ninety 1047 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: percent of the test subjects when they received that inert 1048 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: cream that had no therapeutic benefit and they told their 1049 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,399 Speaker 1: rash would get worse. Within ten minutes, the rash got 1050 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: worse and spread. For other people within ten minutes, the 1051 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: rash got better and nearly went away from most people 1052 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: just within ten minutes of them getting this cream that 1053 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: does nothing. The biggest part of this was the benefit 1054 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: depended directly with how the person believed in the competence 1055 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: of the physician. Their rapport and belief in the person 1056 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:41,760 Speaker 1: telling them about the thing impacted their physical response the most. 1057 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: So again, who are you listening to? You know? And 1058 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: so for me, I had that nicebo effect injunction, Like 1059 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: he told me this was incurable. I'll be in paying 1060 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: the rest of my life, you know, I'll never walk 1061 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: normally again, all these things, and I believed him. But 1062 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: thankfully again, just like sometimes going through these things and 1063 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: hitting rock bottom is a good place to stand up from, 1064 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 1: you know, and being able to access this is why 1065 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: people are such a gift, you know, Like my grandmother 1066 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: was like a guiding light, like a north star for me. 1067 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it at the time. I just thought 1068 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: she was being annoying. But just knowing that there's somebody 1069 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 1: who believes in me, man, it just made the process 1070 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: so much easier. But the thing is, you don't need 1071 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: anybody else to believe in You can believe in yourself, 1072 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: you know. But it does take it does take some revelation. 1073 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: It does take a lot of work to be able 1074 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: to do that. But anyways, but just to put the 1075 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: icing on the cake with this, with stress and the 1076 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: impact that it can have on our bodies and our relationships. 1077 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: The reason that I don't talk about this off the jay, 1078 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: but the reason I wrote this book was to address 1079 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: how food is affecting how we communicate with each other 1080 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: because you probably have noticed we're living at a very 1081 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: divisive time right now. You know, there's so much divisiveness, 1082 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,919 Speaker 1: there's so much agitation, there's so much in fighting, when 1083 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: on paper, we should be more connected than ever, Like 1084 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: we all have the same access to the same data. 1085 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: Why is there so much arguing about it? Right? And 1086 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: also people are becoming so polarized, like they're going and 1087 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: planting their flag at one end of the other end. 1088 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: But truth truthfully, most people are here in the middle, 1089 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: but they're listening to people at these outer ends. But 1090 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: what's not being talked about is the fact that, for example, 1091 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: there was a study done at the Ohio State University 1092 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: and it was looking at couples, you know, like I 1093 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: love my wife, she's my best friend, and but we also, 1094 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, we have you know. And 1095 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: the thing is like we know our stuff now because 1096 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: we often attribute it to the person. But what they 1097 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 1: did was they use glucose monitors to see what happens 1098 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: when the person in the relationship when they have abnormal 1099 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 1: blood sugar, how they respond to their partner, yes, all right, 1100 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: And so what they found was when people have when 1101 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: their blood sugar was abnormal, you know, when they experienced 1102 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: a blood sugar crash for example, which is normal because 1103 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: again we're going hypoglycemic and then crashing because the way 1104 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: we eat today, the test subjects became much more aggressive 1105 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: towards their partner. Keyword aggressive. Right, And here's the biggest thing, 1106 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: because for me, it's just like okay, that's a quality. 1107 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: But what's the end result. End result is they were 1108 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: far less likely to resolve their relationship conflicts. So that's 1109 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 1: the outcome because your blood sugar's messed up. Now, we 1110 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: think about this with kids, like you know they're hyper 1111 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: or whatever, they're cranky. You're just a big adult baby, 1112 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, you get the same hard wiring. And so 1113 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: when we tend to be in conflict is when we 1114 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: when our biological needs are off, you know, when we're tired, 1115 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: when we're hungry. These things we attribute to kids acting 1116 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: up like that, but we do that to each other, right, 1117 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: And so that was just one little glimpse into it, 1118 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: like this is somebody that you love. And so with 1119 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: the just a little sidebar in the study, they use 1120 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 1: like these dolls and poking pins in the doll. How 1121 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: if you are a madic or partner you are. So 1122 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: it's just kind of creepy like some people. So, but 1123 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 1: now here's how we branched this out globally. Researchers at 1124 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Oxford University. They wanted to see what would happen by 1125 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: improving the nutrition of prison inmates. Right, so we have 1126 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,439 Speaker 1: a certain psychological view of people who are in these conditions. Yeah, right, 1127 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 1: But for me, I have an experience with this because 1128 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: of the environment that I come from. You know, many 1129 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: of my friends and family end up in that situation. 1130 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: I could have been in that situation. And so what 1131 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: they did was and this is a randomized, placebo controlled trial, 1132 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 1: gold standard. This isn't just guessing. This isn't like the 1133 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,959 Speaker 1: oh this thing, gold standard of clinical trial. They took 1134 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: a group of these prison inmates and they improved their 1135 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: nutrition just through getting in from Omega three fatti ascid supplements, 1136 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: which we've got to talk about that by the way, 1137 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: and then just increasing their amount of vitamins and minerals 1138 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: that they're consuming, right, so very rudimentary stuff. And then 1139 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: they have the cebo group who gets nothing. It's a 1140 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 1: four and a half month study and after compiling all 1141 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: the data, the test subjects. The prison inmates who received 1142 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: the improved nutrition had a thirty five percent drop in 1143 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: behavioral offenses versus the PACEBO group, and most notably, a 1144 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: thirty seven percent drop overall in violent offenses. Their proclivity 1145 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 1: towards hurting another person dropped by thirty seven percent by 1146 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: increasing their nutrition. What was in that nutrition, dude, basic vitamins, minerals, 1147 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: multi vitamin type stuff, omega threes, but the megathrees are critical. 1148 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 1: That's why I want to specifically talk about this. But 1149 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: that sounds so crazy because the very best programs in 1150 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: prison for rehabilitation come nowhere near those types of results. 1151 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: So some other researchers saw it and they were just like, 1152 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 1: that's impossible, and they replicated the study and almost got 1153 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: the exact same numbers. This was published in the journal 1154 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: Aggressive Behavior. There's so many journals that cover these things, 1155 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: and the data is available by getting people healthier, by 1156 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: giving them the basic The question should be how just 1157 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: your cells, your brain cells specifically, being able to talk 1158 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: to each other, you require key nutrients, and so one 1159 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: of those nutrients is omega three, fatty acids DHA and 1160 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 1: EPA specifically. The cool thing is that blood brain barrier. 1161 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: They got to express pass so they're able to cross 1162 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 1: the blood brain barrier because it's one of those essentials 1163 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 1: for the brain. Now, this is so crazy, but without 1164 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: these specific omega three's, your brain cells can't really efficiently 1165 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 1: talk to each other. It's something called they enable something 1166 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: called signal transduction, so your cells being able to talk. 1167 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: And also they're part of all of your cell membrains, 1168 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: so just the cell being sustainable itself. If you're deficient 1169 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: in these things, again, your body will try to do 1170 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: what it has to do, but it just degrades the 1171 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: way that your body works so much. And so a 1172 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: study this was published in the journal Neurology, one of 1173 01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the top journals looking at the brain, and they found 1174 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 1: that test subjects who consume less than two grams of 1175 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: omega threees per day had the highest rate of brain shrinkage. Yeah, 1176 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 1: and where are we getting omega threes from naturally? If 1177 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: we're even getting this. Yeah, this is so important because 1178 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: for years I made this mistake, all right, working in 1179 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: a clinical practice, seeing people every day and wanted to 1180 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: invoke more plants into people's diets. I would tell people, 1181 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: make sure you getting your cheese seeds, and you know 1182 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: your flax seeds. You got flax seeds or flax seed 1183 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: oil in a refrigerated section because it's volatile. But I 1184 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: was missing the mark because that's a LA. It's a 1185 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: different form of omega threees. It's the plant version, and 1186 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 1: it's not what your brain uses, all right, So your 1187 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: brain uses epa and dha. These are only found in 1188 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 1: animal foods. And we do have an option for people 1189 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 1: doing a vegan protocol, which is algae oil. All right, 1190 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: So we'll come back to that in just a second. 1191 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: But this is very important because your body can the 1192 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: plant omega three ala and converted into dha and epa, 1193 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 1: but you're gonna lose at least seventy five percent the 1194 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: conversion process, all right, So this is going to depend 1195 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: on your microbiome, your other metabolic factors, on who's efficient 1196 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 1: in converting this. So to say, for somebody that is 1197 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: doing a vegan or vegetarian protocol to just have chia 1198 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 1: seeds are cool, it's not. It's not cool. Literally, we're 1199 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: talking about your brain shrinking. This is not a joke. 1200 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: You need to make sure you're getting these dha and 1201 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 1: epa the whole food versions or sources that we've evolved 1202 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: having is going to be coming from fatty fish. Again, 1203 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: humans have been eating these foods for thousands of years. 1204 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into religiosity about our nutrition 1205 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 1: and it creates all this divisiveness. I just want to 1206 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: talk about principles, right, and so fatty fish, grass fed beef, eggs. 1207 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: And then we've got as far as what most of 1208 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 1: the peer view studies are done on, it's done on 1209 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: fish oil, right, and it's just it is what it 1210 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: is now with I said, I believe that there are 1211 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: some other means for this. One of them, depending on 1212 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 1: where your ethics lie, could be krill oil. All right. 1213 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: So krill oil is one of the richest sources of astaxanthin, 1214 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,640 Speaker 1: which is protective of those Omega three's, which is huge 1215 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: and of itself. But this is a microscopic keyword, microscopic shrimp. 1216 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: All right, you're probably just even like if you lick 1217 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: the air, you're going to be killing more sentient beings 1218 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: than you know what I mean, this microscopic shrimp. But 1219 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 1: it's a concentrated form of omega three's dha and epa. 1220 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: If that's where you sit, then we have algae oil, 1221 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 1: which is a plant source. The caveat here is that 1222 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: we don't have much period viewed data on its efficacy. 1223 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 1: We know the DHA and EPA is there, so I 1224 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: don't want everybody to wait. If you're doing a vegan protocol, 1225 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 1: please get yourself an algae oil today, Like today, get 1226 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 1: a specific so algae oil is going to be encapsulated, 1227 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: so which again I would love people to do food first, 1228 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: but in this situation, it's essential. It is absolutely essential. 1229 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: So we can still do our chia and our flax 1230 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: and our hemp seeds. Those are those are great for 1231 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 1: other things, but please don't mistake the fact that we 1232 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: need a mega threes for cognitive function. And again in 1233 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: this clinical trial they're using fish oil, So this is 1234 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 1: not a joke. Being able to reduce your proclivity towards violence, 1235 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: to improve your ability to perspective, take, and to be 1236 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: able to have more compassion and patience. We know this 1237 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: when we're when we're nutrient deprived, when we're even just hungry, 1238 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 1: we tend to be more irritable and less patient towards 1239 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 1: people we love, let alone people we don't know. So 1240 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: the biggest issue I believe Jay. And this isn't because 1241 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm a nutritionist, Like I really examine this, Like I 1242 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: sat with this for a while. I was like, is 1243 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 1: this because my life has just been revolved around health? 1244 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Like truly, I feel that the biggest underlying issue for 1245 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 1: our epidemic levels of divisiveness and very illogical behavior and 1246 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 1: the ability to see another human being and to want 1247 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: to do them harm, it's because we are unhealthy, you know. 1248 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 1: And the data indicates this, but my real my life 1249 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: indicates this, you know. Like I grew up in an 1250 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 1: environment man Like it was just it's an environment. It's 1251 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: so volatile. There's so much violence, you know, outside my 1252 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: door and in my own household. And to see how 1253 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 1: I've changed because I was a reflection of that environment. 1254 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: Something I didn't tell you about when I went to 1255 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 1: that private university. I got kicked out of that university 1256 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 1: for fighting. I got kicked out of high school for 1257 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: my entire junior year for fighting. And I I was 1258 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: in student advisory. I was teenage Health Consultant, which was 1259 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: this little health program. I was in in Roads, which 1260 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: I was able to take college credit. You know. It 1261 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: was the first year that it was popping off with 1262 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: Saint Louis University. I was a scholar, athlete, I was 1263 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: all these things. It didn't matter, you know. I got 1264 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: in this situation where I felt threatened, and I resorted 1265 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: to that behavior, you know. And every day in the morning, 1266 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, going in getting the cereal and getting the 1267 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, the pasteurized orange juice. I'm eating pizza pretty 1268 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 1: much every day of lunch with the oppressor with cheese, 1269 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, and just like I'm making my body out 1270 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,600 Speaker 1: of this really low quality material, right. And so the 1271 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: crazy thing was, once I got physically healthier, I started 1272 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 1: to see people differently, and I started to have so 1273 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: much more patience because I was replicating those behaviors. Like, 1274 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, my daughter is my oldest I have three kids, 1275 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: and my mother, like she would say something once and 1276 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: then five seconds later, she's pissed off. Right, she doesn't 1277 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 1: want to repeat herself. She's just ready on fire, to 1278 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 1: be mad, to be irritated, to be aggressive towards you, 1279 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: and to have such a lack of patience. And so 1280 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: I was being that with my daughter. You know what, 1281 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: for me, I wanted her to be. Of course, most 1282 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: people want their children to be better than them, and 1283 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 1: so when she was in kindergarten, I was getting her 1284 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 1: like second and third grade work and we would sit 1285 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 1: around a table and all this stuff and just imagine 1286 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: like the lack of patience that I had. And she 1287 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 1: graduated with honors all that stuff, but you know, just 1288 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: what she had to deal with. And I'm even then 1289 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 1: of still it wasn't like bad, but still just like 1290 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: the level of patience that I have now from like 1291 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 1: my youngest son is ten, it's night and day. It 1292 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: is night and day because I'm physically healthier, and it's 1293 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: not a struggle. It's not a reach for me. Now 1294 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,520 Speaker 1: here's the rub. It's not that we can't express compassion 1295 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 1: or the perspective take or to express patience when we're unhealthy. 1296 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: It's just harder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think 1297 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,639 Speaker 1: we've all experienced that, right, Like I think we all 1298 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 1: know that that when you're hungry, you react differently to everything. 1299 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 1: And I think we've all experienced the irritability when you 1300 01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: feel like your body's like exhausted or you're going to 1301 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 1: be more irritable, you're going to be more agitated. I 1302 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 1: think we know that. Most people would say, yeah, I 1303 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: know exactly, what that feels like. And this is where 1304 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: I like the connection you're making and I agree with 1305 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 1: you even more is I've spent so long with people 1306 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: where they keep trying to solve the issue in their head. 1307 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: They're wondering why their energy is not right, they're wondering 1308 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,760 Speaker 1: why they don't feel positive, they're wondering why they don't 1309 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 1: feel clear, and so much of it is diet related. 1310 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 1: Of course, there's meditation, and there's mindfulness and these beautiful practices. 1311 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: But if you're doing all of those but you're not 1312 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,639 Speaker 1: solving your gut, you're making life harder, like you're working 1313 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: harder without using all the resources. And that's why at 1314 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 1: the beginning, when you said it's your diet, your sleep, 1315 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 1: and your movement, and then you have your mindset and 1316 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 1: your meditation and your mindful us, we've got to use 1317 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 1: all fours. Like you can't just use one. Like you 1318 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: can't just work out and say, oh, it doesn't matter 1319 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 1: what I eat, And you can't just eat right and say, 1320 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 1: oh it doesn't matter if I don't work out, and 1321 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: you can't just sleep right. And you're right, it's not 1322 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: about choosing either raw it's it's all of them. And 1323 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 1: that's what you present in this book about the connection 1324 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,679 Speaker 1: between them. Yeah. Sure, you're such a wise, insightful twenty 1325 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 1: years studied. I mean when you mentioned them, like, I 1326 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: can tell it's it's phenomenal, and you can tell what 1327 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 1: a passion you have for this. If someone's listening today 1328 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: and you could simplify for them three things that they 1329 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: should try and learn more about and three things they 1330 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,120 Speaker 1: should be very aware of that they may need to 1331 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 1: put aside, what would you say for each of those? 1332 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 1: For someone who's today going, wow, I need to read 1333 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 1: this book, Eat Smart, So I'm going to order that, 1334 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: But it's like, what are three things that I need 1335 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,200 Speaker 1: to add and think about and research and learn more about, 1336 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 1: and what are three things that it maybe need to 1337 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: avoid and set aside. You know, this is a tenant 1338 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 1: throughout history. The number one thing for me is to 1339 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 1: know thyself, you know, really do a self assessment because oftentimes, 1340 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, working as somebody who's I'm sitting across the 1341 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: table from a person and they've got twelve medications that 1342 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 1: they're on and they're wanting to make a change, and 1343 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: I have to be there and to look them in 1344 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: the eyes and say I got you, We're going to 1345 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: figure this out, and actually know with every five of 1346 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: my being that we're going to figure it out. To 1347 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: be able to do that, I have to evoke within 1348 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: that person and find what is a leverage point and 1349 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 1: help them to get honest about what landed them in 1350 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 1: this place that they're in to begin with. Right, So 1351 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 1: what I would find is that and this is a 1352 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 1: great secret for all the coaches out there, many people 1353 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,719 Speaker 1: already probably know this who are doing this type of work. 1354 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: If you allow a person to speak, just ask them questions, 1355 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: they will often tell you the cause and the cure 1356 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 1: of what is ailing them they're being. They know it already, 1357 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 1: it's already within their mental and you know, cellular records. 1358 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 1: They know better than anybody, right, But you have to 1359 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: give people space to be able to speak. And so 1360 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 1: but oftentimes coaches, you know, we want to help people, 1361 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: and so we just want to give them our thing, right, 1362 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 1: but just actually be there, listen, be a space for 1363 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 1: this person. It's probably nobody's ever really listened to them, Like, 1364 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: just actually shut everything down to listen to them. Be 1365 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: that person, and they'll tell you the cause in cure. 1366 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 1: So know thyself is the tenant self assess, and there's 1367 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: different personality types that we can put people in. But 1368 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 1: we're infinite, you know, we really are. But there are 1369 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: people who tend to be people start things and stop 1370 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 1: things very quickly. You're right, they meet a little bit 1371 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 1: of resistance in there. That's okay. Then there are people 1372 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 1: who you know, swing for the fences. They go and 1373 01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: they do so much like they go, they get all 1374 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 1: the things, they get all the equipment, They go so 1375 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 1: hard and they on themselves into the ground, right. And 1376 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,559 Speaker 1: there are people who are just more balanced. Like there's 1377 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 1: different personality types and so really honing in on what 1378 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: your personality types is are And I talk about this 1379 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 1: a little bit in the book as well, So know 1380 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,840 Speaker 1: thyself so you know what to shore up. And I 1381 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 1: don't like to talk in terms of strength and strength 1382 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: and weaknesses. You know, you have strengths and then you 1383 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 1: often have things that are foreign to you, right, And 1384 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: that's okay because like my strength is I know a 1385 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 1: lot about the human body. I don't know about cars, 1386 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I know Danna Kapatrick, 1387 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,760 Speaker 1: Like I feel disrespected even saying car around. You know 1388 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? And So it's just like being able 1389 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 1: to understand, like that's not my domain of excellence, or 1390 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: but I could learn I might, you know, because of 1391 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 1: my experience come into the car game, and like I 1392 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 1: can start seeing stuff other people aren't saying, you know, like, 1393 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 1: but that's not for me. So I understand my strengths 1394 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 1: and also where I don't have any credibility or experience, right. 1395 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Number one is just a principle to know yourself and 1396 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,719 Speaker 1: to know what things tend to hinder you. And I'll 1397 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 1: just share one little quick one because I saw it 1398 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: as a big consistent in my clinical practice. One of 1399 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,559 Speaker 1: the biggest things that hinders people in getting in the 1400 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 1: progress that they want is blaming others. All right. I 1401 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,600 Speaker 1: was literally I was right there listening to them, and 1402 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can see after a while, I can 1403 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,599 Speaker 1: see it coming out here. It comes you know, if 1404 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 1: my kids would just abid us, right, if my husband would, 1405 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 1: just if my wife would, just if my mom would 1406 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 1: just you know, like everybody else in their life is 1407 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 1: making it harder. Right, So they have this story and 1408 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 1: they're going to live and die by it, right, and 1409 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 1: so but the thing is, it's just a story, and 1410 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that it's not true. It doesn't mean 1411 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: that you don't experience more, you know, conflict or curveballs 1412 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: in your life because of your life experience. But listen, 1413 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,360 Speaker 1: like it's all about perspective, you know. I've been through 1414 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: some crazy stuff in my life and to be here 1415 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 1: where I am, like the number one thing besides that 1416 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 1: moment of decision is taking responsibility for my life one 1417 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 1: hundred percent responsibility. Again, this is one of those things 1418 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 1: that you might you don't really do that, you know, 1419 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,920 Speaker 1: And so that's without any wiggle room. I had to 1420 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: stop pointing the fingers. I had to stop blaming and 1421 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: catch myself whenever I do it and understand even if 1422 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: in a relationship conflict, it's not fifty fifty, it's one 1423 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,719 Speaker 1: hundred one hundred, because if there's a miscommunication taking place, 1424 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 1: instead of me being like, why don't you understand this? 1425 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 1: I can think about how am I communicating this? Because 1426 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 1: there is a way to get through, right. But that's 1427 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 1: me taking responsibility. But sometimes we don't feel like it, 1428 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: you know. But also again, if you're physically unwell, it's harder, right, 1429 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 1: So being able to help people with that piece of 1430 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: like you've got to take responsibility here, stop blaming other people. 1431 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 1: There as a way, right, and what we do is 1432 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 1: and this is where I can answer more the question. 1433 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 1: It starts stacking conditions in your favor to make it easier, 1434 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 1: make it automatic. So the biggest issue today with people 1435 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 1: being able to go from where they are with their health, 1436 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 1: where we are severely sick society. I mentioned two hundred 1437 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: fifty million Americans overweight or obese, one hundred and thirty 1438 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,919 Speaker 1: million Americans diabetic or pre diabetic. Sixty percent of Americans 1439 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 1: have some degree of heart disease right now. One hundred 1440 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 1: fifteen million Americans are regularly sleep deprived. Uppers of fifty 1441 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,880 Speaker 1: million Americans experience in autommunic condition. I can go on 1442 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: and on and on. These are things that have never 1443 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,480 Speaker 1: happened before. But if skyrocketed, depression, all time high ADHD, 1444 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: the list goes on and on, everything is worse. And 1445 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 1: here we are again on paper, we're supposed to be 1446 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 1: more evolved and intelligent than we've ever been. And people 1447 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 1: were like, well, we're living longer though, No, No, we're 1448 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 1: the first generation in recorded human history that is not 1449 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,919 Speaker 1: going to outlive the generation before us. It is now reversed, 1450 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 1: which doesn't make sense. It should be continuing increase. But 1451 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,679 Speaker 1: we've hit a threshold, you know, our quality of life 1452 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 1: is suffering because by treating symptoms, we can keep people alive. 1453 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 1: And what's happening is we're not really living longer, we're 1454 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 1: dying longer. We're extending the suffering, you know. So how 1455 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 1: do we get into this state? And the solution here? 1456 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 1: The number one thing is we live in a severely 1457 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 1: sick culture and so we're automatically going to pick up 1458 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 1: what's happening in our environment to be healthy. And a 1459 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 1: severely sick society is very it's weird, you know. So 1460 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 1: today you and your wife are weird as hell, Like 1461 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,879 Speaker 1: you guys are super weird, and shout out to everybody 1462 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 1: else that's you're weird, you know, And that's okay. It's 1463 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 1: abnormal because normal right now is being unwell. And so 1464 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 1: a solution here is and this is my goal and 1465 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 1: it's what I do. This is what I dedicate my 1466 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: life to, is what gets me up in the morning, 1467 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 1: is to help to make a shift to where health 1468 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 1: is normalized, right to where it's easy to have access 1469 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: to the things that healthy. Right now, we have ease 1470 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: of access to things that make you sick, that degrade 1471 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,360 Speaker 1: your health, that degrade your mental health. These are all 1472 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:15,639 Speaker 1: close closely accessible, right, and so one of those things 1473 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, again, being from Ferguson, Missouri, I was surrounded 1474 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 1: by fast food like absolutely, you name the place within 1475 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 1: a mile radius, all of them are just some surrounded 1476 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:31,120 Speaker 1: by it. And the question is why is this so cheap? Right, 1477 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 1: because that's why I bought it? Yeah, the accessibility, the price, 1478 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,120 Speaker 1: and the taste. Of course they got food scientists or 1479 01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,000 Speaker 1: brilliant at making you addicted to the foods. But the 1480 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 1: cost that the economies of scale here, and so how 1481 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 1: is it that I can go to McDonald's and get 1482 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 1: three cheeseburgers for the same amount that would cost me 1483 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,719 Speaker 1: to buy one avocado? This avocado falls off the tree, 1484 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 1: like literally, this this cheese was are so cost intensive 1485 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 1: to make it makes no sense, right, the bread and 1486 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 1: the processing, the meat, the cheese, the condiments. Not to mention, 1487 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 1: even if we use an avocado versus a happy meal, 1488 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,880 Speaker 1: there's even a toy the packaging, right, all of these 1489 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 1: things are so pros intensive, right, the market, all of that, 1490 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 1: there's we don't have like Beyonce doing a thing for 1491 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,599 Speaker 1: you know, avocados, Like if you could imagine that, you know, 1492 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, it's a really good point. 1493 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If you think about this, like 1494 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,600 Speaker 1: how is this possible? And I answered this question because 1495 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 1: I had to, Like, not only did I answer the question, 1496 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 1: but I looked at what is the outcome? So a 1497 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: big driver of this is government subsidies. Right, So from 1498 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 1: the year nineteen ninety five to two ten alone, the 1499 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,080 Speaker 1: United States government doled out almost two hundred million dollars 1500 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,679 Speaker 1: in government subsidies to farmers who are growing these commodity 1501 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: crops that largely show up through the draft, through window 1502 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:03,880 Speaker 1: and in process foods. Right, So corn, soy, various forms 1503 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,640 Speaker 1: of where sugar we can extract some sugar. Wheat of 1504 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 1: course is big. And by the way, like if you 1505 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,240 Speaker 1: look at a grocery store, most of the foods are 1506 01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 1: made of those ingredients, right, some forms or versions of 1507 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 1: those things. So what happened was by giving this investment, 1508 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,839 Speaker 1: almost nothing went to the pharmers who growing fruits and vegetables. 1509 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,679 Speaker 1: Now here's the bottom line. I came across the studying 1510 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 1: and I dug I had to find what is the 1511 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 1: outcome from this. There's got to be somebody asking this question, 1512 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 1: because I'm asking it. And I found it in the 1513 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 1: Journal of the American Medical Association, one of the most 1514 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 1: prestigious journals in the world, and they looked at the 1515 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 1: consumption of government subsidized food and the outcomes of health 1516 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,600 Speaker 1: and humans. Right, So, the people who are consuming the 1517 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,759 Speaker 1: most government subsidized foods had almost a forty percent greater 1518 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 1: incidents of being obese. They had far higher waste circumference, 1519 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: so belly fat, and higher levels of blood sugar, and 1520 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 1: also depradations to their inflammation so measure they use see 1521 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 1: reactive protein to measure they had higher rates of inflammation. Right, 1522 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,040 Speaker 1: So all of these terrible things, but key thing, almost 1523 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,679 Speaker 1: a forty percent greater incidents of being obese. By consuming 1524 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 1: the food that our government is literally paying for to 1525 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 1: put into our society, we're literally feeding the problem. And 1526 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: it's not okay. And when I say the government, I 1527 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 1: mean us because that money is coming from us, but 1528 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 1: we don't understand our authority. We've outsourced it to other 1529 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,599 Speaker 1: people who don't have our best interests at heart. And 1530 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 1: so I'm in an environment where sixty percent greater incidents 1531 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 1: of my aunts, you know, my family members, Black women 1532 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:47,719 Speaker 1: sixty percent greater incidents of being obese than a Caucasian woman. 1533 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 1: That's the society that we're living in, and it's the environment, right. 1534 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,080 Speaker 1: It's not that any of us are just by nature 1535 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 1: more likely to be unhealthy. Right, And so we can 1536 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,920 Speaker 1: help the stack in aditions to unify each other, you know, 1537 01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 1: unify our communities. But we've got to stand up for 1538 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: each other and not allow this insanity to happen. Because 1539 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: what's happening when we're feeding this problem is the higher 1540 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:15,320 Speaker 1: rates of mental issues, of poverty. It's driving more crime, 1541 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:20,120 Speaker 1: it's driving more divisiveness. Right, It's not our fault. I 1542 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to be a quote bad person. I'm an 1543 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,640 Speaker 1: environment where it is a bigger risk for me to 1544 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:29,040 Speaker 1: go outside and play than for another kid because I 1545 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 1: literally might die, a bullet might hit me, you know. 1546 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,320 Speaker 1: And that's again, it's it's not like this is a 1547 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,280 Speaker 1: daily thing, but that stuff did happen, you know, and 1548 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,240 Speaker 1: people don't understand that. So you look at people and 1549 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 1: they're like, just work harder. My mother worked overnight at 1550 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 1: a convenience store just to again, trying to make ends meet, 1551 01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,720 Speaker 1: and she was stabbed eight times by somebody trying to 1552 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,599 Speaker 1: rob the convenience store. These are things people often again, 1553 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 1: they don't they're not subjected to. And she, my mother's 1554 01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,360 Speaker 1: a really tough human being. Like it's crazy, you know 1555 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: if you hears some of these stories about my mom. 1556 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,880 Speaker 1: But when she she subdued the guy, the police came. Right, 1557 01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,519 Speaker 1: she's just man, she's she's kind of a badass. But 1558 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,719 Speaker 1: when she survived and subdued that, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1559 01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 1: So when she got to the hospital and got the stitches, 1560 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:22,600 Speaker 1: the physician told her that if you weren't overweight, you 1561 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 1: would have died. Your your body fat saved you. What 1562 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,760 Speaker 1: do you think she's gonna do that cognitive association? My 1563 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,639 Speaker 1: fat is my savior, it's protecting me. You think she's 1564 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 1: gonna do anything to lose his weight. She's she's going 1565 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 1: to be more acclimated to having more of it. It's 1566 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,799 Speaker 1: my protection, it's my safety. Right, She sold her blood 1567 01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 1: to put food on the table. You know, all these 1568 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,040 Speaker 1: different things, you know. So, but it's a perpetual. It's 1569 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,000 Speaker 1: the environment, it's the culture, and there is a way 1570 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,720 Speaker 1: to transition out of that. But I'm I'm really the 1571 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,519 Speaker 1: exception and not the rule, Like it took so many 1572 01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 1: minor miracles for this to happen, But I look back 1573 01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 1: in my life, it's just like, is there something remarkable 1574 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,200 Speaker 1: about me? Like how did all of this happen? And 1575 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,760 Speaker 1: the thing is, we're all remarkable. I just realized that 1576 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 1: I have some power. I realized that I have I 1577 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 1: have the ability to decide, to think what I want 1578 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 1: to think, and to respond the way that I want 1579 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 1: to respond, and to make choices in the world when 1580 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,360 Speaker 1: I had just been outsourcing all of my choices to 1581 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,719 Speaker 1: the environment around me, and I had this story about 1582 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,720 Speaker 1: like I can't, I can't do it. So, you know, 1583 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,000 Speaker 1: to drive that point home, a big solution here is 1584 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,519 Speaker 1: for us to create conditions, and we can do that. 1585 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,000 Speaker 1: We can start with our own culture, in our own household. 1586 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,639 Speaker 1: If people see my son, for example, my son Jordan 1587 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,640 Speaker 1: twenty one years old right now, he just launched a 1588 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:58,120 Speaker 1: new fitness program yesterday, and you know, I never told 1589 01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,200 Speaker 1: him to work in this field, but he's just in 1590 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 1: the environment, right and so he's been personal training and serving. 1591 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,679 Speaker 1: I get messages from people who their kids have bought 1592 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 1: his program, like in tears, just like your son helped myself. 1593 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 1: I didn't sign up for that. I had no idea. 1594 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 1: But we created a culture of fitness, of health, of 1595 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: connection intentionally. And it doesn't matter where you start. Because 1596 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,679 Speaker 1: my son Jordan was there with me and Ferguson sleeping 1597 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 1: on an air mattress. He knows what it's like. He 1598 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,599 Speaker 1: was there with me through all of it, and so 1599 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,439 Speaker 1: he has that perspective. No matter where you are right now, 1600 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 1: where no matter where your kids are at, we can 1601 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 1: create conditions. And nobody said it's gonna be easy, though 1602 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna there's gonna be resistance, especially if 1603 01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,720 Speaker 1: you've been just on the iPad all the time or 1604 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 1: watching TV all the time. But a solution is this 1605 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,760 Speaker 1: is to add to a solution. We need to fill 1606 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 1: that space with something of greater or equal value. That's 1607 01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,559 Speaker 1: the trick, right, So if you can find a way 1608 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaker 1: to supplant the need to you know, for them to 1609 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 1: watch another show with something that is you know, involves movement, 1610 01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe again like and you can recruit other people. 1611 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,840 Speaker 1: You probably got friends in your network, you know, like 1612 01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,680 Speaker 1: maybe there's a dance class or maybe there's you know, 1613 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 1: feeling the blank. You Like, the greatest gift that I 1614 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,040 Speaker 1: have in my life today is the resources and the 1615 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,960 Speaker 1: people that I have, right, And I'm I'm a self 1616 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 1: professed lone wolf for sure. Like I definitely had that 1617 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 1: lone wolf energy. But now like every day in my 1618 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 1: meditation practice, I have a little segment where I do 1619 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,559 Speaker 1: with gratitude and I run through all the you know, 1620 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 1: people I'm grateful for, and it's just like it blows 1621 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 1: my mind. Oftentimes, I you know, I go into tears, 1622 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, thinking about it all the wonderful people. But 1623 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,760 Speaker 1: that even that happens by you becoming the type of 1624 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,080 Speaker 1: person that can invite in that kind of energy. Right. 1625 01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,760 Speaker 1: And so one of the big tricks that I've learned 1626 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 1: over the years too for people who are wanting you 1627 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 1: know who's blaming other people and wanting them to change, 1628 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,640 Speaker 1: it's very difficult. There's a statement that you can't be 1629 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,719 Speaker 1: a prophet in your own land. Yeah, invite and find 1630 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 1: other voices to do the thing. So I just came 1631 01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 1: back on Sunday from speaking at an event in Mexico. 1632 01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,599 Speaker 1: Every year it's called Phenomenal Life, and it's Eric Thomas 1633 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 1: often considered like top motivational speaker in the world. So 1634 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 1: it's him, myself, CJ, this guy named Jamal who's just 1635 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 1: a brilliant guy as well. So we do this event. 1636 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,679 Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna go to the event. I'm gonna 1637 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 1: bring my family so they can hear it from them 1638 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 1: rather than from me. Yeah. Right, So that's one of 1639 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,920 Speaker 1: the things I realized. It's just like, if I have 1640 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 1: the opportunity, let me get the kids in this place. 1641 01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,960 Speaker 1: Even with fitness, what tends to happen is if somebody's 1642 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 1: working on their fitness, they leave their kids. They never 1643 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,840 Speaker 1: really see them. Like Mom goes to this mystical place 1644 01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,360 Speaker 1: called the Gem and she comes back happier, sweaty like 1645 01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 1: even that it's kind of freaky, actually, the thing like 1646 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,559 Speaker 1: where are you going? Mom? But anyways, give your kids 1647 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 1: some of these inputs, like let them see you work out, 1648 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 1: invite them in, do some stuff with them. Right as 1649 01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 1: soon as my oldest son was old enough to go 1650 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,639 Speaker 1: to golds back in Saint Louis, he's twelve years old, 1651 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,600 Speaker 1: and you know, he let twelve year olds in. I 1652 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,040 Speaker 1: brought him to the gym with me and now like this, 1653 01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: he's a beast like it's crazy, you know, it's just yeah, 1654 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:31,920 Speaker 1: So start with your own household, creative culture intentionally. It 1655 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,600 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be perfect. It's just about progress, you know. 1656 01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,080 Speaker 1: I know you ask for three things, but they're beautiful. Man. 1657 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 1: Sure you could drop the mic. Was that was so 1658 01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,960 Speaker 1: beautiful on so many levels because what I really appreciated 1659 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,560 Speaker 1: about you is you're able to put the emphasis on 1660 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:56,480 Speaker 1: taking responsibility. I'm designing your own destiny in and amongst 1661 01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 1: all of the chaos, all of the divisive, all of 1662 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 1: the pain and challenges that you've experienced personally that you 1663 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,800 Speaker 1: see around you, and you're saying, well, I've taken my 1664 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 1: own learning into my own hands. And I think that's empowering. 1665 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 1: I think it's encouraging and I think it's enlivening for 1666 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 1: everyone who's been listening and watching because we can hear 1667 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 1: your heart and I love today how you've connected the 1668 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 1: gut to the heart to the brain. You know, to 1669 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:29,760 Speaker 1: see that three sixty degree approach to life through your 1670 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 1: truth is truly powerful to experience. To just sit in 1671 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 1: the presence of that and that just like flies off 1672 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 1: of you, like it just exudes from who you are, 1673 01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,160 Speaker 1: your eyes, your face, your body, your mind, your whole 1674 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 1: entire presence, like I've just been feeling it. So I 1675 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,800 Speaker 1: want you to know that I see that, I feel that, 1676 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,640 Speaker 1: and I want everyone who's listening and watching. If you 1677 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:54,840 Speaker 1: haven't been able to see it because you're not in 1678 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,559 Speaker 1: the room, I'm sure you can hear it. And I 1679 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 1: want everyone to go, you know, subscribe to Sean Show, 1680 01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:06,040 Speaker 1: grab the book, eats Smarter, follow Sean on social media 1681 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:10,720 Speaker 1: because he's talking about the guy, but it's a way 1682 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,439 Speaker 1: through to the heart and the soul as well. So Sean, 1683 01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:14,960 Speaker 1: I want to thank you from the bottom of my 1684 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,000 Speaker 1: heart for joining us as a guest on our purpose, 1685 01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,840 Speaker 1: for putting your heart into this book and the work 1686 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,320 Speaker 1: that you continue to do. And I know this would 1687 01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:27,480 Speaker 1: be the first of many more conversations. Thank you, James 1688 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,639 Speaker 1: than I received that. Thank you so much. I want 1689 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,360 Speaker 1: to make sure everyone's been listening and watching. What I'd 1690 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 1: love you to do is tag me and Sean to 1691 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,439 Speaker 1: let us know what you learned, what you took away. 1692 01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:42,559 Speaker 1: There were so many phenomenal insights today on so many 1693 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:50,320 Speaker 1: different levels, right whether it's mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, family, societal, economical, 1694 01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:55,320 Speaker 1: Like we've really went everywhere, and what we discovered, ultimately 1695 01:31:55,439 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 1: Sean said was we've got to take charge. We can't outsourcepiness, 1696 01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,240 Speaker 1: can't outsource our health. Got to take that charge, just 1697 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,800 Speaker 1: as he has, just as he continues to try to 1698 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,479 Speaker 1: do and serve and support us as well. So I 1699 01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,320 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you've learned. I can't wait 1700 01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,000 Speaker 1: to see your feedback. Big thank you to Shan again, 1701 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:14,960 Speaker 1: and a big thank you to each and every one 1702 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 1: of you that are investing in your health and happiness 1703 01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 1: as you listen to on purpose. Thanks everyone, Thank you 1704 01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:21,759 Speaker 1: Shan