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Speaker 1: It's Sunday, June twenty second, twenty twenty five on j

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Speaker 1: We are Game seven of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: We're breaking it all down.

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Speaker 1: It's tonight, but hashtag this league. Man, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: deep breath, everyone. We now turn to the Southern lawyer

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Speaker 1: who has an announcement.

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Speaker 2: We got all salves a try.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we do again. On the day of Game

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Speaker 1: seven of the NBA Finals, we got Kevin Durant trade.

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Speaker 1: This guy loves being traded on big days. July fourth,

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Speaker 1: now Game seven in the NBA Finals equivalent, really picks

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Speaker 1: his spots. According to multiple sources, at this point, it's

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Speaker 1: all but confirmed. You know, the Phoenix Suns are trading

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to the Houston Rockets in exchange for Jalen Green,

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Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks, the number ten pick in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five NBA Draft, and then five second round picks. Now,

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Speaker 1: I will say this trade can't be formally completed until

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Speaker 1: July sixth, when we like get into the new league year.

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Speaker 1: But it's happening. Durant is going to the Houston Rockets. TK.

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Speaker 1: Your immediate reaction here to this blockbuster?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Mom, Wow.

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Speaker 3: I was with my mom when this happened, driving home

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Speaker 3: from the Supermercato. I'm very excited. My pork past or tacos,

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Speaker 3: I said, this is going to have to wait. Kevin

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Speaker 3: Durant just got traded. She said, is that a big deal?

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Speaker 3: I said, that's a huge deal. We've been waiting for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: four months. It kind of feels like and it finally

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Speaker 3: went down. I think, not a surprise it ended up

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Speaker 3: being the Rockets. Definitely a surprise when you look at

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Speaker 3: the return for the Suns because there were a lot

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Speaker 3: of names thrown around in the Rockets potential deal ahead

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Speaker 3: of time. Jalen Green was always included, which he was

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Speaker 3: in this one, but it was always a are they.

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Speaker 2: Going to be able to get Jabari Smith Junior.

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Speaker 3: Are they gonna be able to get Reed Shepard, cam Whitmore,

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Speaker 3: these guys who are still prospects on the Rockets that

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Speaker 3: haven't really been able to break into the rotation because

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Speaker 3: there's such a stacked team. None of those guys are included.

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Speaker 3: Are the Sons going to be able to get back

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Speaker 3: to their picks that they traded to the Nets in

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Speaker 3: the original Kevin Durant trade which made their way to

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Speaker 3: the Rockets and the Michale Bridges trade in a roundabout

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Speaker 3: sort of way, if those aren't included either.

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Speaker 1: Right right? Just the real pick here is the number ten.

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Speaker 3: They get number ten, which is but Dylan Brooks is

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Speaker 3: the other guy going through. I do think the Rockets

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Speaker 3: will miss Dylan Brooks a little bit. Brings the defense,

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Speaker 3: They kind of played like a Dylan Brooks team in

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Speaker 3: the past couple of seasons. But this is awesome for

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Speaker 3: the hugeuston Rockets to be able to keep the Sun's future,

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Speaker 3: to be able to keep their future. I think you

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Speaker 3: would say keeping Jabari Smith, a Men, Thompson, Alpah, and

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Speaker 3: They also are keeping Reed Shepherd, They're keeping Cam Whitmore,

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Speaker 3: Tarry Easton, Tari Easton. Like to be able to bring

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think maybe a big part of this too,

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Speaker 1: Like we knew Durant wanted to go to either one

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Speaker 1: I think that played a part. But your mind immediately

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll hear about the Spurs offer in the

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Speaker 3: days to come, probably maybe even before Game seven actually

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Speaker 3: they had very little leverage. That was the news coming

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Speaker 3: out of Phoenix during the last week. Everybody has known

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant was going to be traded since February. Really

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Speaker 3: hurts their prospects. So if you're a Phoenix fan, you're saying, look,

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Speaker 3: we got what we were asking for. We got a

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Speaker 2: Certainly not. I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Jalen Green sticks around long term in Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't make sense. Devin Booker is the main

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Speaker 2: So where does Jalen Green really fit in.

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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of curious that the Pat Connaton

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Speaker 3: because if you add up Kyle Kuzma plus Pat Connaton,

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Speaker 3: that equals Jalen Green, who's.

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Speaker 2: Throwing in a draft pick.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's getting the weirder end of the

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Speaker 2: I think that's a big pick up for them.

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Speaker 3: He's going to bring to Phoenix what he brought to Houston,

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Speaker 3: what he brought in Memphis. Sometimes it goes over the edge,

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Speaker 3: but when you're starting, when you're trying to like build

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Speaker 2: That's something sorely needed in Phoenix. I think that's.

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Speaker 1: Hard with the Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 3: He did his part with the Houston Rockets, and I

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Speaker 2: And that's a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: To be and I think the Rockets, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: men Thompson exactly. It's like this guy leveled up obviously

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Speaker 1: and let's get into like how this fits. Like Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously getting up there in age, going to

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Speaker 1: makes sense to me on paper. What was your reaction

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Speaker 3: Like we saw in the playoffs, this is exactly what

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Speaker 3: Green on a hot streak and he's said, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of Rockets games during the

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Speaker 3: last season came down to Fred Van Vliet chucking a

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Speaker 3: those can go in and if not, it's a riskier proposition.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant isn't a very risky proposition at the end

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Speaker 3: so I think it fits nice there. But on the

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Speaker 3: the Rockets because they did trade two guards, yeah for

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Speaker 3: like their forwards are sweet hey, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: Katie will be the three slash four, whatever you want

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Speaker 3: think he's like a thirty five percent guy, but versatile

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Speaker 2: So they're gonna have to find guards.

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Speaker 3: I think Reed Shepherd will get a chance, but they're

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Speaker 3: probably gonna want a veteran as well, so I think

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Speaker 3: Bobby Marks was saying this trade probably gets opened up

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Speaker 3: bigger for Apron concerns for Houston because they're still gonna

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Speaker 3: need some guys. But I like the starting five of

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Speaker 3: Fred Thompson, Katie Shanngon and Jabari, Like that's a great

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Speaker 3: I think Wittmore can at least be a scorer. We'll

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Speaker 3: see what Reed Shepherd can do in year two if

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Speaker 3: will then get him more trust from eme Udoka. And

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Speaker 3: then Tari Easan is just like a chaos dude. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna make things happen. They just signed Steven Adams, so

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Speaker 3: they got a backup center. Like things are looking good

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Speaker 3: Durant kind of end the future for Houston?

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Speaker 2: Are they saying we're in win now mode?

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Speaker 3: I think they are in win now mod, but they

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Speaker 3: didn't really have to give up any of their long

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Speaker 3: term pieces. Depending on how you feel about Jalen Green,

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Speaker 3: I'm not big on Jalen Green, So I thin guess

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Speaker 3: it's actually good for the Rockets to get off of

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Speaker 3: his contract. I would rather pay Kevin Durant the next

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Speaker 3: two seasons, then I would rather pay Jalen Green.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: And do you think it's a no brainer here? Extension

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Speaker 1: And I think it leans into what I remember Sun's

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Speaker 1: Crazy crazy stuff, exciting times. Anything else from this deal

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Speaker 1: Vin Durant going to the Houston Rockets, Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks,

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Speaker 3: I still I still have Denver ahead of Houston. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's the only other team that I'm putting specifically ahead

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Speaker 3: of Denver because they have Jokic. We saw how they

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Speaker 3: played against the Thunder in their second round series, could

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Speaker 3: have beat them, depending on if Game seven goes the

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Speaker 3: complete opposite way instead of getting blown out. So I

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Speaker 3: just think down for their track record, They've got a

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Speaker 3: starting five that has been playing together for four seasons

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Speaker 3: at this point. Maybe some things change. Maybe that means

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Speaker 3: Michael Porter Junior's out and we're talking about a new

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Speaker 3: starting lineup, or maybe they just find out a way

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Speaker 3: to beef up their supporting cast, which was kind of

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Speaker 3: their downfall this year. But then I think I would

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Speaker 3: have Houston in the mix with the Lakers, who we

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Speaker 3: know Lebron's gonna be good, we know Luca's going to

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Speaker 3: be good, uncertain of the rest of the team.

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Speaker 2: Around them.

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Speaker 3: I feel kind of similar about the Clippers. They finally

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Speaker 3: had great health for the playoffs, couldn't get out of

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Speaker 3: the first round. But you know, Tyler's gonna have James

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Speaker 3: Harden and Kawhi Leonard playing well. They're a team that

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Speaker 3: seems to be pretty active in trade discussions. So I

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Speaker 3: think that I would have Houston alongside those teams and

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Speaker 3: Minnesota in Golden State, I probably played in that tier

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Speaker 3: as well. So for me, the top seven likely remains

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Speaker 3: the top seven because after that you're getting into Memphis, Sacramento, Dallas, Phoenix, Portland,

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Speaker 3: which are below the playoff teams that we're talking. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: San Antonio, probably I'm stupp into tier number four with

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Speaker 3: a like Memphis Sacramento, But uh yeah, I would have

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Speaker 3: Houston in the same zone as the Lakers, the Clippers, Timberwolves,

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Speaker 3: and Warriors.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well, let's hear from everybody on YouTube. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the chat's going nuts here with the breaking news here.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see everybody's chiming in. You know, I

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Speaker 1: even see people saying, hey, they got still Holidays contract

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Speaker 1: Jason Tate's contracts. I do. I'm agreeing with whoever that was,

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Speaker 1: and so they're not done they I'm a one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent convinced when Tilman Fortada decides like we're going for it,

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Speaker 1: he generally like leans all into it. We're going forward,

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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, again, it's a loaded Western conference,

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Speaker 1: but it all depends on matchups and obviously how this

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Speaker 1: fit's gonna go and health. I mean, we do have

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Speaker 1: to come back to that. I know, like we think

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Speaker 1: of these guys as absolutely invincible, but like he has

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Speaker 1: had injuries before. He is one of the older players

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Speaker 1: in the league. You know you're gonna still be asking

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Speaker 1: him to give you something defensively. I mean, that's sort

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Speaker 1: of the backbone, that's their identity, and that's good and

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Speaker 1: you want to continue with that. But and he is

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Speaker 1: a good defender obviously when he is not asked to

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Speaker 1: do too much, I think. But anyway, point is he's old,

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Speaker 1: and this could he's old, can be one injury away

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Speaker 1: from going, oh damn, what have we done. We were

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Speaker 1: the second seed in the West, we were a fifty

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Speaker 1: plus win team, and we were building what we had.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna make this move, I think at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, especially not having to give up

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Speaker 1: a Jabbari or an Essen or any sort of Amn

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Speaker 1: Thompson or Shannguno. I think we're probably untouchable anyway. And

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Speaker 1: it was the one guy that sort of got squeezed

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Speaker 1: here that you're maybe not convinced is ever going to

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Speaker 1: be like a true playoff riser in jail and green.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mean to like just diminish hom

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Speaker 1: He is a great score and I think he's going

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Speaker 1: to have a long career, but there's limitations. I think

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Speaker 1: with him maybe as your two guard, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think they're gonna miss him at all.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I do look forward to all the stories about

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Speaker 3: like Reed Shepherd was four years old when Kevin Durant

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Speaker 3: came into the league or something like that. Right, like

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Speaker 3: Reed Shepherd will be twenty one at the start of

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Speaker 3: the season. I think Cam Whitmore as well. And it

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty seven?

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Speaker 2: Is a drive in a car? Yeah, so like he

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Speaker 2: was how many years ago is that sixteen years? It

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Speaker 2: was a popular song.

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Speaker 1: Then you're trying to think about popular song, like what

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Speaker 1: songs sixteen or seventeen?

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Speaker 3: Sixteen year old Kevin Durant, What do you think he's

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Speaker 3: driving around listening to.

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Speaker 1: So we're saying it's a oh yeah, I see what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. Two thousand and five is what we're looking

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Speaker 1: at ballpark. No, no, not even that two thousand and

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Speaker 1: eight trying to load here. Yeah, let's say.

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Speaker 3: No, he was born in nineteen eighty eight, so he

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Speaker 3: was the same age as my sister. Well, I doubt

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Speaker 3: he was listening to Britney Spears, but I know that

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Speaker 3: was very popular in her car.

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Speaker 2: Maybe like, oh I think they like me. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: think they like me.

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Speaker 1: That's the era.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, Big White Teas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, flow Rider, No, i'd be later.

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Speaker 2: No, No, Kevin Durant Man. We're talking about Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: Ok.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get traded to the Franchise Boys. That's what

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Speaker 2: their name was.

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Speaker 1: Ah yeah, there you go. People are saying, yeah low

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Speaker 1: by flow Rider, Okay, well thank you, Umbrella by Rihanna Okay, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: He was an East Coast guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeahal A might be a little early.

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Speaker 1: For walle Yeah. Remember when wal A got into it

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Speaker 1: with Matt Devlin. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: all crazy there. If you know what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 1: you are a certified NBA sicco uh and you've been

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Speaker 1: around for a long time. Okay, let's let's call it

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Speaker 1: there again. We're gonna have a lot more time to

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Speaker 1: break this down. Task obviously couldn't get in here the

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Speaker 1: factory today on a Sunday, but he is going to

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Speaker 1: be joining us, I believe tonight on a special seven

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Speaker 1: pm YouTube only exclusive. We're gonna do a Game seven

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Speaker 1: pregame show. I have a feeling a little Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: is going to seep into this show, but we will

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Speaker 1: make the focus about thunder Pacers Game seven. We're just

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Speaker 1: gonna hang out with the chat. I mean, really low key,

548
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Speaker 1: answer any questions you guys got. Just get excited for

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Speaker 1: Game seven, which is tonight. So that's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be on YouTube. That link is already up.

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Speaker 1: I'll make sure to add it to the show notes.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully we see you guys on YouTube. And then

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Speaker 1: we got an entertaining, fingers crossed Game seven between these

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Speaker 1: two teams tonight on ABC. We'll be back tomorrow in

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Speaker 1: the factory here to break down Game seven talk. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure about big picture what just happened when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the thunder either winning or losing, or obviously the

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Speaker 1: pascers winning or losing, and then we'll get into some

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Speaker 1: mar Kevin Durant will hear task his thoughts at that time.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's it. What a day?

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Speaker 1: Did you eat your did you eat your food?

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Speaker 2: Or oh I gotta go cook it?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, wow.

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Speaker 2: I haven't eaten yet. Today I had a donut and

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Speaker 2: a half at church. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I was at the farmer's market in your hood today.

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Speaker 1: Yeahs farmers were good. I ate some great Syrian food

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Speaker 1: and and there's like have you seen that guy named

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Speaker 1: Phil which we talked about.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: French pastries begnets, No, it was croissants and like but

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Speaker 1: like a cheese and egg ham sort of sandwich. It

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Speaker 1: was fantastic, great farmers market in Egham. I went to

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Speaker 1: two farmers markets this week, trying to get the dog

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Speaker 1: more acclimatized to being around a lot of people, a

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Speaker 1: lot of kids, a lot of noise. So it's a

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Speaker 1: bit of like that's the reason for it. But then again,

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Speaker 1: you're at a farmer's marketing, like, all right, let's get

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Speaker 1: some good.

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Speaker 2: Food, cheese and eggham. It was that weird way to

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Speaker 2: put it. Yeah, I guess it would.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I having and is the second word is really

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Speaker 4: throwing me Off'm delirious.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on all these farmers markets. No,

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Speaker 1: I did tell you. I said it was going to

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Speaker 1: happen before the draft. I was tweeting earlier today because

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Speaker 1: there were, you know, reports coming out of Phoenix that hey,

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Speaker 1: this is very close to the finish line, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, watch watch this get announced during halftime of

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Speaker 1: Game seven in the NBA Finals, Like, let's go to

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Speaker 1: Sham's for this breaking report. I don't do that.

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Speaker 2: I hope Adam stepped in and said, I, you're doing

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Speaker 2: it today, do it this morning?

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Speaker 1: Do you okay? Before we go? Do you think it

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Speaker 1: was better to do it before game seven or if

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Speaker 1: this were to happen tomorrow, let's say afternoon post game seven.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the best time for so do I?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: If those are our only two options, then I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that if it happens after game seven, it's

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Speaker 1: like we're moving on, like we're like by way right

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Speaker 1: away to that season. So yeah, it's probably be Oh,

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Speaker 1: restart the music we've been talking so long. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: hit the like button, subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings

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Speaker 1: and reviews. We'll see you live tonight on YouTube, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll see everybody tomorrow morning at ten am Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Until then, Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: And remember it's two hours and forty minutes from the

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Speaker 3: Toyota Center to the University of Texas at Austin. It's

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Speaker 3: not that far, not too bad. Just take it ten

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Speaker 3: to State Highway seventy one west.

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Speaker 2: That easy.

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