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Speaker 2: Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode

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Speaker 2: was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on y'all? This is Fante Fonticelo. This

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Speaker 3: week's QLs classic is with none other than my homegirl,

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Speaker 3: my friend, singer songwriter Marsha Ambrocious.

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Speaker 1: She stopped by. We talked about.

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Speaker 3: Everything from working with Michael Jackson, writing Butterflies, doctor dre

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Speaker 3: Flow a Tree, and most importantly, how we've been pronouncing

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Speaker 3: her name wrong and fucking it up for all these years.

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Speaker 3: This episode was from January nine to twenty nineteen, and

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Speaker 3: this is this week's cure Less Classic. It was an

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Speaker 3: incredible time and we hope you enjoyed. Catch out next week,

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Speaker 3: I Get Peaceful.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Supremo Supremo, Roll Call, Suprema, Sun Supremo, Roll Call Supremo,

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Speaker 4: su Subprimo ro looking.

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Speaker 1: Scared se roll Chameleon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Karma Karma, Karma, Yeah, I'm sorry, jan Yeah, Marcia Marshall, Suprema.

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Speaker 3: My name is Fantee and I would listen to Flow

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Speaker 3: Yeah back in the day when I was doing my

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Speaker 3: hole with you.

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Speaker 1: Supremo Supremo. My name is Sugar. Yeah, I know John Mayer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so she cheated on me. Yeah with John Mayer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, pay Bill, Yeah, I hope you're hearing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: wish you could see. Yeah, like he is hearing.

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Speaker 7: My right, it's been years since. Yeah, Boss Bill was

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Speaker 7: in England. Yeah, I had a real chill time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My idea of fun Brollie gets up.

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Speaker 9: Supremo roll Suprema Son Supremo roll Ye.

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Speaker 10: Yeah and Marcia yes, Yeah, was like a beast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And she sings the best.

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Speaker 9: Whoa Suprema Son Supremo roll.

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Speaker 1: Call, Suprema son So Sopremo roll call.

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Speaker 11: My name is Marsha. Yeah, and I'm on this mic. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I'm with my husband. Yeah, I'm so high.

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Speaker 9: Supremo roll call, Suprema So Supremo, roll call, Suprema Son

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Speaker 9: Son Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 11: And I sound like Mary Puffins.

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Speaker 1: Might have everyone bodied their verse. Y'all.

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Speaker 10: Man, Wait, I didn't know that my godmother ear rings.

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Speaker 1: Shout the jeans hanging. I know you had a scar

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Speaker 1: for the repurpose some parasuco.

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Speaker 8: I believe these came from the stable collective. Shout out

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Speaker 8: Toterrina Scott. I'm just saying I don't.

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Speaker 12: Know Scott's wife.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's some funked up earrings. Edit. I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: about everything. I'm so happy to be back. Raight up.

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Speaker 1: It's all right, man. My stomach hurts my side. I

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Speaker 1: know I don't show.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm here quest Love and we're with Teams Supreme

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Speaker 12: and there's unpaid Bill. Yeah, you're back. I'm back, thank you.

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Speaker 12: I was on my walk about you. I did like,

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Speaker 12: were you three weeks working up your bathroom as well?

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Speaker 6: Or no? I am renovating the basement. There's no matt

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Speaker 6: finish or waterless heater, waterlessankless tanklas water heater, but there

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Speaker 8: Probably got some cool job ship going on, Bill that

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Speaker 8: you try and make jokes, but you probably got some

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Speaker 8: real cool shit going on while you missed us.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Sesme Street was filming season fifty. Wow, fifty

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Speaker 6: years of Sesame Street.

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Speaker 1: Fifty years? That's crazy. Am I say anything about that?

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Speaker 1: Or do I just wait until it happens? Or I

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Speaker 12: Okay, Well, I'd like to thank you for finally it's

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Speaker 12: been a lifelong more than soul trained and to come

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Speaker 12: on Sesame Street that I can help.

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Speaker 1: So you so you actually only you made it on

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Speaker 1: I'm Battling Grover.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite amazing man, all right.

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Speaker 12: And it's weird because like when you get in front

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Speaker 6: Also, Amir was like, legit flustered on the set. It

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Speaker 6: was like it was it was like, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 12: Because like even even when they yell cut, Grover's still

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Speaker 12: talking to me.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy, Well, you know, I just kept on it and

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Speaker 1: then like you realize, forty seconds later talking to a

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I was getting analytical everything about my creative process.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, wait a minute, gets to the

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Speaker 1: heart of the matter. Yeah, yeah, sugar, Steve, how's it going?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to your Yeah yeah, well how you I have

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Speaker 1: a whole network? Actually, how's your network doing? Network is blossoming? Really? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's driving. That's great. Thank you for asking. H bost Gardens.

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Speaker 1: Are you are you happy as or Yeah? I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been getting in again. This is not a pun.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been getting any headaches lately, So amen, amen

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Speaker 1: to that. First listen to music.

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Speaker 10: It just smell.

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Speaker 11: We we know, we know, we know, Mars, So don't

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Speaker 11: bring up old stuff.

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Speaker 10: She's a mod and.

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Speaker 1: I'm good man, I'm glad March is here.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 3: I haven't want to do this on a long time yet.

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Speaker 1: Our guest today.

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Speaker 12: She made her mark in the music world as one

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Speaker 12: half of the pioneering neo soul outfit entitled Floatry. Her

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Speaker 12: reputation as a songwriter, I'll say, uh, grew after the

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Speaker 12: creation of what many, including myself, will probably say, Okay,

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Speaker 12: how big of a hyper bulwick movement can I make this?

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Speaker 1: You're pretty good.

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Speaker 12: I personally think that Butterflies is maybe one of Michael

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Speaker 12: Jackson's finest vocal performances in the last ten years of

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Speaker 12: his life. Without without, without, without a diet. It's actually enunciating,

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Speaker 12: yeah and not gritting. I'll ask you, how did you

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Speaker 12: not get into yell at the So there's a take

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Speaker 12: where he just let me actually say your name first.

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Speaker 12: You will be in the show? Yeah, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 12: So she collabed with all of our favorites. Uh now,

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Speaker 12: Salem village. Uh buster rhymes the game earth within and

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Speaker 12: fire common. Uh oh, of course doctor dre while a

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Speaker 12: Kanye Robert Glas everybody, everybody your credits of course.

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Speaker 1: Late nights in early mornings.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 12: The very strong friends and lovers, extremely strong friends of lover.

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Speaker 12: Her husband's in the room right now.

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Speaker 13: He knows all the stories, respectful, and the latest being Nyla,

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Speaker 13: which is not for New York LA.

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Speaker 12: It's not about you being bicoast. It is, yeah, but

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Speaker 12: I would like to think that it's also named after your.

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Speaker 14: My daughter daughter, who was also named after my husband,

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Speaker 12: I literally I thought that you wanted to correct a

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Speaker 11: I still laughed about that even in school.

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Speaker 14: I was like, geography, this is amazing because it's not

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Speaker 12: Straight straight out of Liverpool, marsh and.

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Speaker 11: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be like all times, it's not

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Speaker 10: Is that the western may right, Western Lane.

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Speaker 3: Was absolutely clear because that's the don't know, late to

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's a that's like a Bermuda tribal with South

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Speaker 1: To it's western Male.

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Speaker 14: I just wanted to express the world. It wasn't about

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Speaker 1: Okay, do.

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Speaker 12: You guys realize that there's three versions of that song

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Speaker 12: Stewart what's his name, Matthew, Matthew Man. I was about

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Speaker 12: did like five takes of it. But the version on

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Speaker 12: the album of Day is like night and Day. I

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Speaker 1: It's night and day like.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, her vocal performance everything. So the things you learned question, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 10: You know what you saying Western Maine?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Western Male. Google I think was wrong on this one.

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Speaker 1: did not know that you were born in Liverpool. I

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Speaker 14: No, born in Liverpool and we moved when I was

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Speaker 1: When you think of home, it's Liverpool.

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Speaker 10: I think of the place.

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Speaker 1: Really, I was thinking of Surelle.

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Speaker 14: I think of Liverpool, but I do reference London because

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Speaker 1: Back to Liverpool. How old are you when your parents

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Speaker 1: have read it like six? Wow?

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Speaker 14: about eight there, yes, seven or eight. So it was

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Speaker 11: That, like go back to sleep.

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Speaker 1: So that was my that was my upbring was a musician.

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Speaker 14: He was in a seventies band called super Charge signed

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Speaker 1: In the day.

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Speaker 11: And if you google that, yeah, well if you do

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Speaker 11: find the YouTube footage of said things.

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Speaker 14: He's doing the Robot in nineteen seventy six on live

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Speaker 11: Somewhere there's footage of this is incredible.

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Speaker 1: I can't.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, it had to be. Are you the only

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean, didn't I tore ligaments two years prior

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Speaker 14: just it's like black Lily. No, like, no, that's a

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Speaker 14: Joy didn't come fly with me every day?

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Speaker 11: And I was like, come fly with me because I

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Speaker 11: It was like a Michael Jordan's documentary. I haven't seen

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Speaker 12: Can I skip a little bit because technically, were you

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Speaker 11: Not even epic.

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Speaker 14: So we did a meeting with Hidden Beach and then

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Speaker 12: Because people know that Hidden Beaches Jordan kind of story

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Speaker 14: He's the money, right, So that was kind of there

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Speaker 11: Had the whole house in Malibu. Cute touch and it's

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Speaker 12: I'm also means that Steve uh caraculously uh re release

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Speaker 1: When it did.

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Speaker 11: This is two thousands, So yeah.

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Speaker 11: If it's not that they unwrapped, that's my worst nightmare.

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Speaker 1: Unwrapped the roots unwrapped happened, happ.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the intro that you got me was us making

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Speaker 12: Poyser is notoriously obsessed with taking songs that sound good

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Speaker 14: So I met James Poyser before I met any of

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Speaker 11: Well yeah, basically, so it's crazy how life works.

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Speaker 1: So you literally came to in state of y'all means

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Speaker 10: Well people two different people taking credit to for this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, means always taking credit.

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Speaker 11: But oh, this is a long.

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Speaker 14: So now and myself met through basketball in the UK,

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Speaker 14: it just became cool. You go to summer camps and

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Speaker 14: Fast forward to that and we're teenagers. Now I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 14: I remember you cool. Our parents knew each other. It

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Speaker 1: And we were just cool, okay, And then was it

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Speaker 12: Do you know what?

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Speaker 14: Absolutely by a very very well incredible accident. I was

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Speaker 11: You know what, this is not for me?

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Speaker 14: I quit music because what I'm hearing in my head

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Speaker 1: I hold you say you were when you wrote.

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Speaker 11: Butterflies sixteen seventeen.

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Speaker 14: So I kind of hung up music for a little bit,

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Speaker 11: So I was like, you know what will be dope.

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Speaker 14: I have this song called Fantasized, and if a poet

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Speaker 14: was on it, let me see. I'm a here so

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Speaker 14: a hair up, yo, put some poetry to this song.

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Speaker 1: This is the hook.

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Speaker 14: I'm a beat bucks beat you know, come in when

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Speaker 12: Now, even though you were not of club age at

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Speaker 11: Well eighteen over there it was never twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you were of club age, were you?

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Speaker 12: Because all the ideas that the roots ever had as

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Speaker 1: So was anything like Ici or any of those clubs

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Speaker 11: No, not even a little bit.

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Speaker 14: I worked with Jay Zibe in his camp for a

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Speaker 14: it will be sign your life away here, kid, and

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Speaker 14: we'll own ninety percent of this because we gave you

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Speaker 11: I'm sure. I went to school for that part.

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Speaker 14: So nah, I'm good. And I was always on that like,

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Speaker 14: I don't need this for the bread. I want to

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Speaker 1: So nobody that was popping at the time in London was.

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Speaker 11: Ever gave me a ali nah. I mean it was.

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Speaker 14: You know what was big over there. I think he

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Speaker 11: Is still that fear into me that if you drive

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Speaker 1: And I never did. I never believe that.

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Speaker 12: I always felt because he did an interview like after

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I feel like a lot

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Speaker 14: Over here, because I remember it being about a license,

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Speaker 1: I remember we defin knew jail, but I can't remember.

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Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure if you google it that was what

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Speaker 11: That was my joint, right, I'm grown, I'm grown. I

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Speaker 11: would admit this to you know that what's her name,

448
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 11: Buffalo Nina.

449
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Speaker 1: Cherry without a record.

450
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Speaker 11: I was like, oh, this is good old time. You

451
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 11: don't know ya though this is cute.

452
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Speaker 1: I don't think you know what show we have your

453
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Speaker 1: social Security numbers.

454
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Speaker 12: But there was there was a there was an up

455
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 12: and coming crew that obviously you know, they took their

456
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 12: cue from Wu Tang. It was them on like steroids

457
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 12: and they were part I mean, it was like they

458
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 12: were part drumming bassed.

459
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: They were part.

460
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Speaker 11: Also the whole garage that.

461
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it was a cruise there that era.

462
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Speaker 14: I actually got to Philadelphia when that really popped off

463
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 14: and took off because I was more into the club scene,

464
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 14: like going to party to it, not necessarily making it,

465
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 14: so I kind of missed the whole wave of let's

466
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 14: do a house and garage track, like when Craig David

467
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 14: became the pop version of what was going on, because

468
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 14: so much of that was going on in the UK.

469
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 14: But when Craig David came in smashed it and took

470
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 14: it to a whole other level with that, but so

471
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 14: solid with the authentic you know London that.

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Speaker 11: Were you know.

473
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Speaker 1: The thing with who's the d J O with the

474
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: oh no, not real? Tim is definitely the white from

475
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Speaker 1: Master Flex. Yeah that's that.

476
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

477
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Speaker 14: I actually pretty much well, speaking of being too young,

478
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Speaker 14: to be in the club. I was too young to

479
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 14: be at a biggie show in the UK, but me

480
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 14: and my best friend K at the time, we definitely

481
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 14: went Yeah, So I'm glad I got to see Biggie Life.

482
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: So you were those guys like two seven nine and all.

483
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 11: Those jigs choice f M.

484
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 14: Yeah, Trevor Nelson Nelson still doing like BBC B at

485
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 14: that time.

486
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Speaker 1: Was he was he doing it?

487
00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: He was?

488
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: He was like, well he was really Giles Peterson's apprentice.

489
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Speaker 12: So when I first met Benji b like ninety six,

490
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 12: ninety seven, he was like, you know, doing answering phones

491
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 12: and that sort of thing. Like he really started coming

492
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 12: up in ninety nine to like when we started coming up. Yeah, No,

493
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 12: I was only asking because I always wanted to know

494
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 12: if so solid was I remember that, uh Westwood got shot?

495
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, which if you get shot in London?

496
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 10: Like Tim what got shot?

497
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

498
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Speaker 11: Remember remember that?

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

500
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Speaker 11: I'm not saying no, no, no, he got shot.

501
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: I remember I remember that. I remember that.

502
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Speaker 12: I mean, I mean for guns to even be in

503
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 12: London was like yeah, because they don't sounds like Canad

504
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 12: did to me, So it wasn't happening.

505
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to know how solid was that crew?

506
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: They were so silent.

507
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 11: No, it was UK Love, but he kept the gangster.

508
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: He never stitched on who shot him?

509
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 11: So yeah, anyway on London.

510
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 12: Like Peterson, No he like, I mean, but I'm just

511
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 12: starting like Flex was always on his show.

512
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: If anything, I feel like Flex really nuanced.

513
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 12: His relationship with Tim Westwood to let the world know,

514
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 12: like hey, worldwide, like yeah, every that's how no funk

515
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 12: Master Flex like him coming to London, America's own from Master.

516
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 10: I was living in London, okay, because you know that's

517
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 10: that's how you know.

518
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm not in New I wasn't in New

519
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: Yorker then.

520
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 14: So I had this crazy manager back then, Danny Gale

521
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 14: his name was, and I was. I was a kid

522
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 14: at the time, and he was trying to make me

523
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 14: do the whole second and do all these demos. And

524
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 14: I opened for boys to men and be man.

525
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 11: Think about that Bill.

526
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 10: Who closed because I.

527
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: Grew open. Well me.

528
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Speaker 14: Me in like a Adidas track suit. I have my

529
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 14: short Hallie bay tony Oho, and yeah it was. It

530
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 14: was a hot mess, but I just knew I was

531
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 14: about to blow up the Hippodrome, a place called the Hippodrome.

532
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Speaker 1: I remember the.

533
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 11: Right on the corner, Yeah, by the tube, literally right

534
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 11: in the corner.

535
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 14: And that's crazy. So that manager at the time trying

536
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 14: to get my parents to fire him because I was

537
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 14: under age. Really it was like, Bro, you're not taking

538
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 14: me to this next level that I see for myself,

539
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 14: and you've got to go and claim that I will

540
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 14: never be ish ever in life. It's never going to happen.

541
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Speaker 14: You're trash. I wish death point you like I'm seventeen, sixteen, seventeen, Yes,

542
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 14: Christ it is, but you know what you can't like

543
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 14: years later, in hindsight, I have to go you know what,

544
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 14: whatever was going through your head, you had to have

545
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 14: seen me as this crazy, huge star for you to

546
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 14: even feel like I was taking.

547
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 11: That away from you. I'm seventeen. I don't know what

548
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 11: I'm going to do.

549
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to be.

550
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 11: You had it in your head that I was really

551
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 11: about to be something, so.

552
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 10: You had the fort right that he wasn't going to

553
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 10: take you the place that you need to.

554
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 12: Take age that kind of There's one question I didn't

555
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 12: ask your voice when was it fully developed?

556
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 11: Still developing? I don't really I get it.

557
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 14: But when I started the Martian Nuances was roughly around

558
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 14: sixteen or seventeen, maybe younger than my mum will probably

559
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 14: say younger than that, but like fifteen sixteen, and that

560
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 14: was really.

561
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 12: No, no, no, So you say you're sixteen when people

562
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 12: started taking you serious as a singer.

563
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 11: No, When I started taking myself serious as a singer.

564
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So I'm saying.

565
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 14: When I knew I was Marsha was when I started

566
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 14: to sing the synth solo that you know, Teddy Riley

567
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 14: would do in the middle of a guy record.

568
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 11: So it was very much new Jack Swing. Was like,

569
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 11: oh my god, I'm gonna do this.

570
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: Why am I trying to Stanley Brown.

571
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 11: Exactly do this?

572
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 14: But I listened to weather Report my whole life, and

573
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 14: I'm like, straight widow.

574
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: Best moment of my life. Side note.

575
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 12: I was at the Blue Note. I don't know who

576
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 12: I was drumming for, but Stanley Brown got up on stage.

577
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 12: I'm losing the audience, don't know who Stanley Brown is.

578
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 12: I'm losing my mind. James Boyce just like Stanley Brown,

579
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 12: and I was like, I lost my mind.

580
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm giving it to my holy Stanley Brown. Stanley Brown

581
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: was the church I'm just.

582
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Speaker 10: As I'm gonna beat the one. I'm gonna beat the

583
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 10: one he was.

584
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: Go on YouTube and watch the video for run him

585
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: some pause.

586
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 12: But I mean he was also the go to keyboard guy.

587
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 12: He would be the James Boys of the eighties. Okay,

588
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 12: So during during that R and B period of New

589
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 12: York when Teddy Riley's really starting to get established, like

590
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 12: mid eighties, you know, eighty six. You know, Stanley Brown

591
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 12: is the guy that like was playing you know, Alison Williams, Orange,

592
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 12: ju S Jones and he, Stanley Stanley Brown was the man.

593
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Speaker 1: He's doing church stuff now. But like I gotta get

594
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: for him that that saxophone patch.

595
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 11: Oh like on JM.

596
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, but it's like it it's so artificial sounding, but

597
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 12: it's so vintage now, Like you need the solo.

598
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: The way that people felt like you remember when Amy

599
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: Wineouse came aunt, like it was so old sounding. But

600
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: like now that cheesy.

601
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 12: Saxophony sound is to me, that's that's my Like, yeah,

602
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 12: I'm I'm trying to get him more like something I

603
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 12: played on before I die.

604
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: You might have to have Roy Lee produce a track.

605
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 10: Look, well wait, Marshall, you said you don't sing. What

606
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 10: did you mean when you said that? You said you

607
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 10: know it wasn't singing.

608
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 11: I was like, k new Jack Swing moving into what

609
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 11: was then?

610
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: You know?

611
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 8: Joe, you said you still haven't When Emir asked you,

612
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 8: you know how your voice is matured and grown, you

613
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 8: were like, it's still You're still not done.

614
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 10: You still don't sing to your fullest yet.

615
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 14: No, what is it mm hmm, because it's more so

616
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 14: an instrument. It's like what solo am I going to

617
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 14: do today? I don't think like a singer. I think

618
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 14: like what calls for the moment.

619
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Speaker 12: I think real singers think as an instrument. Algio definitely

620
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 12: thought he was an instrument. Anita Baker says she's an instrument. Yeah,

621
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 12: like real singers are.

622
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: You know everyone else is struggling struggle everybody else, a.

623
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 11: Lot of people. Yeah, Well, I enjoy making sounds.

624
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: I do.

625
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 14: I enjoy picking parts that make sense to me and

626
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 14: all of the the heavily New Jack Swing era, It's

627
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 14: a Bad Boy era. It was oh my gosh, Faith Evans,

628
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 14: Oh my gosh, One's twelve and like singing along to

629
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 14: that album every day. Jodicy and all the inflections of

630
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 14: those harmonies and having one almost be off key and

631
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 14: if you pan them left and right, they're not doing

632
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 14: the same thing. And that was okay. I didn't know

633
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 14: that until I went in the studio. I was like, oh, layered,

634
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 14: this sounds amazing, and I don't know, I just like

635
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 14: to create.

636
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: I missed off key singing, Like I seriously.

637
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 11: Everything it's too tuned.

638
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 14: I think that one is failing to the point where,

639
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 14: oh my gosh, I believe that you want to right now.

640
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 14: It's very you know, in an industry talk for hey,

641
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 14: they got one is oh, you have a song that

642
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 14: sounds the same pitch, same tempo, and has a hook

643
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 14: that possibly belongs to something else already.

644
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 12: Probably the worst case example of that to me is

645
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 12: both the New Edition and Bobby Brown biopics, Like all

646
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 12: the singing done on there, yeah, yeah.

647
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 11: The race, It's like, do you realize what Bobby Brown

648
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 11: was really doing?

649
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Now?

650
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 14: And I feel like, I'm glad this happens so you

651
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 14: can reference what was really going on at that time

652
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 14: where melodyne and auto tune wasn't a choice for you.

653
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 11: I wasn't going in the studio go and take that again. Okay,

654
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 11: we'll fix it. Ain't no fix it? Be it again

655
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 11: and yeah, and that's it.

656
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 14: So it's a it's also an appreciation of, you know,

657
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 14: what's actually been done.

658
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 12: Well, you're the you're the first uh Black Louie graduate

659
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 12: or class of whatever two.

660
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: That I've had on the show.

661
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 12: So I have to ask, well, I mean, it's hard

662
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 12: to describe to people how magical the five spot was.

663
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: And when it was in its zone where.

664
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Speaker 12: Every week you would get prime Jaguar, all right, Prime

665
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 12: Jill Scott, Prime Fluwatry.

666
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Jasmine Sullivan waking up, you know, coming up to do yeah,

667
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: like the right exactly how much was was it ever

668
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: a thing in your head like Okay, this is a.

669
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 12: Movement or we gotta we gotta come with it, because

670
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 12: I know, at least with I know that with Jag

671
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 12: and Jill, there was always.

672
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: A hmm, okay, all right, next week, I'm gonna have something, and.

673
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 12: They would you know, you got six days to think

674
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 12: of how you top what you saw? Yeah, So I

675
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 12: don't mean from competition sick, but was it just like okay,

676
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 12: what we got.

677
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: To do there?

678
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 14: Well, I think the the initial first show was what

679
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 14: defined what we were going to do every week because

680
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 14: it was weighing, Oh, we've got these two British chicks

681
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 14: in town that they called themselves flow a Tree. Well

682
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 14: International was like, oh my god, like these farms showed up.

683
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: Nubians. Also time it was like, yo, we gotta come

684
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: to the States. And suddenly I was like, we're gonna

685
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: do it in French.

686
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 10: It ain't work for them like they it was different,

687
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 10: didn't that was over there.

688
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, when they can understand is going to Philly and

689
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 14: being at the Black Lily and getting into that building

690
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 14: and seeing Jill Scott and seeing music Soul Child and

691
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 14: seeing Blao, seeing the roots of the house band, Like

692
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 14: that's overwhelming, but it's also okay, I'm in here now,

693
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 14: I have to bring it. But that first show, it's

694
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 14: waiting until two in the morning to do it, and

695
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 14: it's who stays, And that sweat Box was just okay,

696
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 14: we want it. We don't want to miss anything because

697
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 14: Jill might come up and do that one or Kindred.

698
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 11: They used to kill any so right, rhythm of life

699
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 11: and then we'll be all jumping up and down and

700
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 11: out of breath. Then it will be a moment.

701
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 14: But then it was okay, we're going to get on

702
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 14: and it was hey, we're flower Tree and there's fantasize

703
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 14: that first time and everyone's like, oh okay, okay, and

704
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 14: I was like, okay, next week, this is what we're

705
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 14: gonna do and straight Planet. So if we do get

706
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 14: an earlier slut, there's going to be more people there.

707
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 14: The word has gone around town. There's these two girls.

708
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 14: They do this thing fantasize.

709
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: You gotta start off with the Late shift.

710
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

711
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: See, we were on tour. We were on the Late

712
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: Show to reach advance.

713
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 11: Sorry listen right, but we.

714
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 14: Remember blue Funky, Blue Funk John Barbers Show first, and

715
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 14: at that time it was Jeff Bradshaw was doing like

716
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 14: the band and stuff.

717
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 11: I think Terry Tribbett might have been on base. Yeah,

718
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 11: so it's spoiled.

719
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: Wait, I hate to go for it. Go for it.

720
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 11: I think I know where this is going, but go

721
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 11: for it.

722
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Was it your tour bus yet?

723
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 8: No?

724
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no

725
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: no no no.

726
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 11: There's two stories.

727
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 14: Are you talking about the stolen one or are you

728
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 14: talking about Canada?

729
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

730
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: That.

731
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: You got it. Back it up, back it up, back

732
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: back it up. Yeah, I've been waiting to hear the

733
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: official story.

734
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 14: Okay, once upon a time, Flowstry, we're opening for Alicia Keys.

735
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 14: What happens is when people are going into Canada and

736
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 14: you don't have visas nor you have issues to get

737
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 14: across that border.

738
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 11: You are left in Buffalo, New York.

739
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 14: So these tour buses round about let's say load out

740
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 14: was midnight the prior show.

741
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 11: We get to Buffalo.

742
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 14: However, long after that, drop everybody off that said, you

743
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 14: know what, I'm gonna have some issues at the border.

744
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 14: So I'm a role I'm not coming through. You guys

745
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 14: do the show and come right back. So granted I'm

746
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 14: asleep on this tour bus at the time, wake up

747
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 14: at the border, and we are asked to get off

748
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 14: and present our passports to make sure everything is good.

749
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 14: So we're now sitting curbside and we're waiting for our

750
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 14: passports to be brought back to us.

751
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 11: So there's the.

752
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 14: Inspector and a dog continuously going on and off of

753
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 14: our tour bus. So I'm looking at each other because

754
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 14: at the time, I wasn't smoking weed like that, especially

755
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 14: on the bus. If we were, it was definitely on

756
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 14: some dressing room shit.

757
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 11: So I'm like, well, who mm mmm. I was like, nah, no,

758
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 11: no one's smoking.

759
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: On the bus.

760
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 11: I was like, we have Paris at the time, and

761
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 11: like I was like, we charged, We're good, We're good.

762
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 8: Oh man.

763
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 14: So then the inspector is getting continuously frustrated with all

764
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 14: of us who claim that we have nothing tied. So

765
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 14: now I'm getting scared. I'm like, well, what's about to

766
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 14: go down? Because he looks really upset. Roughly around twenty

767
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 14: minutes after this debucle this inspector and two dogs, now

768
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 14: with two other people.

769
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 11: Are carrying off.

770
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 14: Our drummer at the time, ah who was on the bus,

771
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 14: and they found him in you know the back cabinets

772
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 14: that have mirrors and you can kind of crawl up.

773
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 11: He was smoking a joint up there, and that's why he.

774
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: Was smoking at the border. I heard that.

775
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 14: Okay, you know when stories get because the Chinese whisper,

776
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 14: is this what happened?

777
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: We heard?

778
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 10: Is he in a big family?

779
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 12: Yes, okay, he's in the big family, and sometimes he

780
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 12: takes you on an emotional roller coaster.

781
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 10: Okay, well, actually that could be away.

782
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 7: You know.

783
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 10: A couple of rolling around.

784
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 11: Your account of this story is, well, how it ends his.

785
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 12: In the that he somehow inserted himself inside of the

786
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 12: back of the couch of the tour bus.

787
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 11: Well if anywhere, it's.

788
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, well it would have been four hours because we

789
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 14: would have left Buffalo and you know, did a rest up,

790
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 14: and you know, we were so by the time you

791
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 14: get to the border, it is what it is. So

792
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 14: now we're all detained and questioned.

793
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 11: Did we know he was there?

794
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 14: Were we trying to bring drugs into Canada? I'm like,

795
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 14: why would we do that? Your weed is way better?

796
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: Why would we play our own?

797
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 11: This is two thousand and what two at the time,

798
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 11: two thousand and three.

799
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what shot I didn't even

800
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: know was y'all. I thought it was maybe Jill.

801
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 10: Then he goes in the bus business.

802
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: I love it.

803
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 11: Well, get to a bus.

804
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, then became a bus. First thing was like, hey,

805
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: can I drive out to a bus? He was like, nah,

806
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: we call it. So there was a story. Never mind,

807
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: So Michael Jackson.

808
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 14: Right fast forwarding too. Yeah, we were detained. It was

809
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 14: bad and questioned and.

810
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 12: Yeah, this was a shot in the dark. I swear

811
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 12: the guy didn't even know y'all. He said, we didn't

812
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 12: do the show, and I was like, have you heard that.

813
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: Story about I didn't know. Yeah, oh that's crazy. Okay

814
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: to our stories? How easy is it when you're in

815
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: a partnership.

816
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 12: Now it's weird because with me and Tarique, like on music,

817
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 12: he's lyrics or whatever. But in the fluw try situation,

818
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 12: how do you guys come? Who navigates? Who's fifty one

819
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 12: to forty nine?

820
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 8: Who?

821
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 14: Well, this is the thing. It's like chicken or the egg.

822
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 14: And I never claimed it even though I initiated. Look,

823
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 14: I have this buddy of music and song that if

824
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 14: you paired up some poetry to this fantasize, it will

825
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 14: make Tadah Flowa try so even in the studio, it's

826
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 14: She'd never been in the studio at the time, so

827
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 14: it was early touch jazzed. It was early what's the

828
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 14: back room at Larry's Axis, it's doing bunches of demos

829
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 14: with James and Victor and whoever else will come along

830
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 14: and try and shape what was going through our heads.

831
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 14: So me, I'd always been musically inclined, had already been

832
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 14: writing songs, Like I said, If I was a Bird

833
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 14: was written because of comply with me. Michael Jordan's like repeat,

834
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 14: So all of these things that I'm showing up to

835
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 14: these studios with, like Yo, I got this song called Sunshine,

836
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 14: I have this, I have this, and we would go

837
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 14: up and down. But a touch of jazz at that

838
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 14: time had its own magic. So it was like fusing

839
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 14: what we were so fresh in creating with other people's magic.

840
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 14: So fresh off of Jill's first album, fresh off of

841
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 14: Music's first album.

842
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 11: So you have the Way Long Walk, just.

843
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 14: Friends in one day, and I'm going okay, ABC rooms,

844
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 14: bouncing from room to room and doing floetic the first day,

845
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 14: do it headache, after that, running to Dray and Ye

846
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 14: and going okay, videal play those chords again. Oh yeah,

847
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 14: it's Ganley. Yeah that's all I'm gonna say. I'm a

848
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 14: singer this hook and then you come in and it.

849
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 11: Will literally be that.

850
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 14: So I'd never even controlled It's it was always fifty

851
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 14: to fifty to me. But everyone's like, as you wrote

852
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 14: this whole song, she came in and did eight bar poem.

853
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 14: I'm like, that part doesn't matter to me, you know.

854
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 14: So as far as the magic of Flower Try, it

855
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 14: was more than just about us when it came to

856
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 14: a controlled studio environment on stage, it's the same dynamic.

857
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 14: I could stand stage left and closed my eyes and

858
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 14: sing for two hours, like, oh my god, that was amazing.

859
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 11: I'm like, I didn't do anything.

860
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 12: I meant I know that I know that someone's going

861
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 12: to play an alpha role in I know that one

862
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 12: should be diplomatic and it's a compromise and into relationship.

863
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 12: It's almost it's like a marriage where how much power

864
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 12: you have doesn't matter.

865
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Or more equal than others.

866
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 11: So I mean, because there were other factors to this.

867
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 14: So the people that were there, whether that is dre

868
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 14: and VI, whether is carbon Ivan or Keith, they're just

869
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 14: going to be like Marlesh. You were in the studio grinding,

870
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 14: you were writing and playing this music every day, coming

871
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 14: with these ideas, every day, coming with a concept. So

872
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 14: if that chimed in with a title cool, it will

873
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 14: take on a life form of its own. Does that

874
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 14: mean I own seventy thae?

875
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: Maybe? Okay, all right, No, I just wanted to know how.

876
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 14: But yeah, that's the dynamic only because I'm the musical,

877
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 14: melodic end of it.

878
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 11: But what comes with that is.

879
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 12: Because I always think it's it's hard as hell starting

880
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 12: business with someone that you were friends with first.

881
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 11: Oh, it's horrific.

882
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 14: It's horrific, and there's so much you don't take into account,

883
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 14: thus it turning out the way it does for many,

884
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 14: hopefully not for most, but for me it was the

885
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 14: growing pains of oh, I have to live.

886
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 11: Adult life dolo.

887
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 14: Now I moved away from the UK, I've got to

888
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 14: rely on my surroundings. And when people morph and changed

889
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 14: into unrecognizable people, both spiritually and all the above, it's

890
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 14: it's kind of like takes you back a little bit.

891
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 8: And it was working with Touch of Jazz kind of

892
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 8: like interesting in the sense that everybody in a Touch

893
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 8: of Jazz is broken off into duos anyway, right, right,

894
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 8: So then you get to kind of observe their dynamic too,

895
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 8: Like you get to observe the dynamic of Dre and

896
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 8: Vidal and what each one brings.

897
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, so, and they were also a unit.

898
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 14: It's supposed to be a touch of Jazz to six

899
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 14: of you, but you were two's anyway, so it was

900
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 14: two splitting off into twos. So if one vibe with

901
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 14: just Videal, it's just Vau or just Ray or you know,

902
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 14: it was whatever, but you can press play on that

903
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 14: music of that era, not only with Flow a Try,

904
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 14: but with Jill's album, with Music's album, and hear what

905
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 14: everyone was doing collectively like it's it was, Philly was

906
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 14: on some shiit and I wasn't gonna leave like I

907
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 14: was sold on Philly.

908
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: So where what was your reaction when you first got

909
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: the news that Michael Jackson was interested in one of

910
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: your songs?

911
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 11: Didn't believe it? You want to believe it? The thing

912
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 11: was Jeff.

913
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 14: We all went to Jeff had that other room opposite

914
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 14: the sea room and the office, and I guess we'd

915
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 14: all missed a phone call from MJ. They were referring

916
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 14: to this guy as I like, who's MJ? First of all,

917
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 14: not Michael Jackson. I'm not even putting that in my head.

918
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 14: So Jeff is like, YO, you have to come listen

919
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 14: to this. You have to come listen to this. So

920
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 14: I listened to the answering machine that is Michael Jackson

921
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 14: requesting that he work with whoever wrote this song. I'm

922
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 14: in love with this song, Butterflies. It's my like, I

923
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 14: really want this for my new project. You know, paraphrasing,

924
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 14: of course, But did it?

925
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: How did he hear?

926
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 11: John McLean is like, but he's like, I don't know.

927
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 11: It's like a viking, like.

928
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Like you're about the ninth John McQueen story.

929
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 14: He's like a shadow but appears and creates magic and

930
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 14: then disappears once again. So John McLean has a hold

931
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 14: of this flow demo that gets us signed to DreamWorks,

932
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 14: and he hears say yes and butterflies and goes those

933
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 14: two are the two that are going to catapult this

934
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 14: thing into the stratus fare. Mike wants this one though,

935
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 14: and Denzel Washington at one point had say yes on repeating,

936
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 14: was going to do something to it. I don't know,

937
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 14: going to be going to be it was fresh off

938
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 14: of giving me bleak Gillian vibes.

939
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 11: But he had that he had to say yes before

940
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 11: anybody has say yes.

941
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 14: He was like, I don't care rights to my songs

942
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 14: and say yes. Drey and myself did that. We wasn't

943
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 14: even supposed to go to the studio. Jeff is like,

944
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 14: I'm shutting the studio down. No, we can go, Dre,

945
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 14: you get the key.

946
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 11: Cool, let's go.

947
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 14: And then that happens to be room in two minutes like, sorry,

948
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 14: I'm not playing them cards again, all right, I'm gonna

949
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 14: just go cut it and then there's that.

950
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 12: But if songs are your kids, were you slow to

951
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 12: give it up or was it just like, Michael.

952
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 11: Can adopt my kid?

953
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 14: Michael absolutely can take this because I guess when I

954
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 14: when I wrote Butterflies, Initially it was just piano based.

955
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 14: I didn't add the you know, the Philly very dragged snack,

956
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 14: you know, the behind the beat, which you hey, I'm

957
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 14: never never gonna stay on this one. I'm gonna always

958
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 14: be a millisecond behind, don't care. But when Dre added

959
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 14: that flare to it, I'm like, Okay, I have this.

960
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 14: I don't know I had the bridge cause like I

961
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 14: played on it, and then Drey does what he does

962
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 14: to it, so it's it's now Philadelphian.

963
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: To me.

964
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 14: It made me feel like everything that I led up

965
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 14: to get into Philadelphia, this is the demo that I wanted.

966
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 14: So when Mike wants to do it, you give it

967
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 14: to Mike, you do. And I thought this entire time

968
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 14: that Jeff is playing as this answering machine. I thought

969
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 14: it was Dre playing like yeah, I was like he

970
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 14: played too much.

971
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 11: I was like, you're lying.

972
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 14: This is the best impression of Michael Jackson. I've ever

973
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 14: heard in my life, and you shouldn't played.

974
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know. You'd have to ask Jeff. Yeah,

975
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 11: Jeff with him anyways.

976
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even get fresh Yeah the first album.

977
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, Jeff is the Yeah.

978
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: So so how long was it from you getting that message?

979
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: What happened? Yeah?

980
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 12: How long was it from the phone call until when

981
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 12: you're actually cutting his vocals?

982
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 14: Well, he was recording with Rodney and yeah, from I

983
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 14: guess that demo was done in September two thousand, so

984
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 14: we worked March two thousand and one when he was

985
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 14: finishing the album. Like Teddy Wiley's bus is parked outside

986
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 14: the Hit factory here and when I was here in

987
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 14: New York and I get there.

988
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 11: And I'm telling Michael Jackson what to do Bar for bar.

989
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 14: The only he ever hit was at the outro the

990
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 14: outro ad libs on two outro ad lib tracks, and

991
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 14: the first thing he did was Whisper Butterflies. He was

992
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 14: so meticulous in wanting it to sound like the demo

993
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 14: that he made me like, how do you do this?

994
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 14: What was the harmony for this?

995
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: Well?

996
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 11: How did you make it sound like that?

997
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: And I remember when I heard the when I heard

998
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: the dimmer. I was shocked. I was like, he pretty

999
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: much did it like d lib note for note, I.

1000
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 14: Can say I vocally produced Michael Jackson into What Questlove

1001
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 14: Deans is one of his finest works of us.

1002
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: How long did that take?

1003
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 11: It was a week even. No, No, it's like the

1004
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 11: most worst. It's not a good job.

1005
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: I hate it.

1006
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 11: I do hate it.

1007
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 14: But that watching him so excited and doing every layered harmony,

1008
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 14: having me do my harmonies over again, having Matt Cappy,

1009
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 14: Jeff Bradshaw do those horns again.

1010
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: It was just fun.

1011
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 14: It didn't feel like a week like we were with

1012
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 14: the kids. Paris and Prince were like yay high at

1013
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 14: the time, and we had Jezebel's sore food every day.

1014
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: It was great with you.

1015
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, he's it's like Santa Claus, like warms my heart.

1016
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 14: And he kept calling me his sang and heifer Mike

1017
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 14: hear me. Mike kept saying, Michael Ja, Mike, you know you're.

1018
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 11: Calling her a cow, calling her a cow. Half is

1019
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 11: a cow? Stop calling her half?

1020
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: Bruce.

1021
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 11: I'm like, you can call me anything here. Yeah, that

1022
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 11: was just magic, Bruce and Mike in one studio.

1023
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 12: I know, he's a perfectionist, but can you even be

1024
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 12: objectionable when you're Can you say that was flat?

1025
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: Or yeah?

1026
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 14: Well, once I got into the groove of things, and

1027
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 14: at that time, it was the talk back button, and

1028
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 14: it was one more time, Mike, you're dragging.

1029
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 11: It's a little flat, little sharp time is straight?

1030
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: All right?

1031
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 11: Breathe into that one elongate the note.

1032
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: It was, I was on it.

1033
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 10: If you look at you like okay, told.

1034
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 14: Michael Jackson, he asked me for permission to leave the

1035
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 14: studio one day or miss a day because he was

1036
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 14: being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

1037
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 11: Didn't tell me that's why he couldn't make it. It

1038
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 11: was like, myrs, I just wanted to let you know

1039
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 11: that I just can't come into the studio today. Is

1040
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 11: that okay?

1041
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 14: And we have a lot of work to do. I

1042
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 14: was like, Mike, you can do whatever you want to

1043
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 14: do in life. You do not have to ask me

1044
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 14: permission for anything. And then he said he had this

1045
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 14: thing and then.

1046
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: So I'm going to score record.

1047
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 11: Excuse me. So I'm staying at you know, the Hudson Hotel.

1048
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 11: So those rooms are like lug cabin, wooden.

1049
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 14: Walls, and because of the lead up on VH one,

1050
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 14: they're showing everything Mike, so they're showing you know, James Brown,

1051
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 14: impersonating Mike through and through to remember the time, through

1052
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 14: and through to anything.

1053
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 11: I'm looking at, I'm like, this is the same.

1054
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 14: I go to the studio every day with this guy

1055
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 14: and a bit at that time, been in the studio

1056
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 14: with him every day for five days. And I the

1057
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 14: tears that I like, there's no tears of joy that

1058
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 14: I can express that I haven't cried like that. I

1059
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 14: don't even know what cry that was. But I was like,

1060
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 14: I'm not worthy. This makes me Quincy Jones, this makes

1061
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 14: me Paul McCartney. There's only a halful of people that

1062
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 14: can say they've done that, they've done something. But that though,

1063
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 14: and I always said I wanted to be Quincy Jones and.

1064
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: Not shade to the R word. Were you allowed to

1065
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: do it alone or were people over your shoulder as well?

1066
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 5: No?

1067
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 11: We were Dolo, was me, Dre and Chris. Yeah, I

1068
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 11: got the picture of him.

1069
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 14: I see them had a car, remember the two other engineers,

1070
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 14: but they were really Bruce, this is right hands but no,

1071
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 14: it was straight us.

1072
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: Nobody there the man's spleen or or.

1073
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 11: Nothing.

1074
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 8: How long did you talk to him afterwards? Like how

1075
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 8: does that relationship dissipate? Like it was cool, she was cool.

1076
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 14: So we were in New York for two weeks and

1077
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 14: then we mixed in l a spent you know, a

1078
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 14: couple of days on that that. He listens to everything

1079
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 14: way too loud. I couldn't handle it. Like see speakers vibrating,

1080
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 14: imagine your.

1081
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 11: Eyeballs doing that. That's how loud it was.

1082
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 14: Him and doctor Dre the loudest like playback I've ever

1083
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 14: experienced in my life.

1084
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 10: Michael Jackson and Dre.

1085
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: And that's just like.

1086
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 11: There's a lot going on. It's a lie.

1087
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 10: So got I had a moment because you don't be

1088
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 10: having a moment you were.

1089
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 8: You just step aside for a second and understand what

1090
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 8: you're doing and be present in the moment, Like, oh,

1091
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 8: you don't.

1092
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: Hate being sentimental. I know you think you're gonna break

1093
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: me on it's gonna break me down on.

1094
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 6: His own show in those earrings.

1095
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 14: That was my way of giving I can't be sensitive

1096
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 14: in the moment because I'm a parent now.

1097
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 11: No, seriously, it's emotional. It is highly emotional and.

1098
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 12: I think that's a that's awesome I think for him.

1099
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 12: I mean, of course, yeah, I wish he was still

1100
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 12: here making music. But if that has to be his

1101
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 12: swan song of a single, I mean that's his last

1102
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 12: living single it is, then that's that's a way to

1103
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 12: go out for me.

1104
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, justin nothing, justin John, I'm just.

1105
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 8: He was.

1106
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: I like that song. But he did that in nineteen

1107
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: eighty one.

1108
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 10: And not to Drake one either because whatever.

1109
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, that's posthumous, like Butterflies is his last released

1110
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 12: single as he's living on his last album. When did

1111
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 12: the Acon Joints come out? But that was going to

1112
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 12: be starting something the whole my hand. Yeah, it takes

1113
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 12: it official. Yeah, I'm not trying to take anything away from.

1114
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 14: You know what, between Mike and Prince, there was the

1115
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 14: most unrealistic like deaths as far as celebrities that I

1116
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 14: just never saw life without them.

1117
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 7: Me and Fante were in Atlanta or no, you weren't there.

1118
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 7: I wasn't there, so you called me. I was in

1119
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 7: Atlanta to do a Prints party and it ended up

1120
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 7: turning to a Michael Jackson party.

1121
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: Really crazy because he came because Michael was I don't know, yeah, yeah,

1122
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: Mike died he was there. Nice s wrong the whole deeper, deeper.

1123
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 11: J that's what you said.

1124
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So.

1125
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 12: What were your what were the the moves uh that

1126
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 12: prompted you to finally come with your your your solo

1127
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 12: phase of your career?

1128
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 11: Mm hmm too many things.

1129
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 12: Is this something that you can step away from and

1130
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 12: maybe we'll get back together in three.

1131
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 11: Years or oh no, it was split dead done so when.

1132
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: We did so when we did the show, because we

1133
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: did a show together like this was like twenty fifteen. Yeah,

1134
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: was that just a show and then.

1135
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: That was it?

1136
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 14: That was crazy. But the reuniting of what was dead

1137
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 14: end of six. So flow Tree really only existed from

1138
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 14: what nineteen nine, ninety eight, ninety nine till two thousand

1139
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 14: and six, officially and making our mark clearly in Philadelphia

1140
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 14: where it catapulted, but by ways of Atlanta of course,

1141
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 14: Ying Yang Cafe, Black Lily gets signed wherever Mike in

1142
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 14: two thousand and one, Floet It comes in two thousand

1143
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 14: and two. We tour four years, but then we did

1144
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 14: two albums, well technically three because we did the live

1145
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 14: album Fluicism in two thousand and three. Then Flowology comes

1146
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 14: two thousand and five, two thousand and six, it was dead.

1147
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: So then what was the Amanda, are you going to

1148
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: why you're looking why you're looking at I'm ready are

1149
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: going to ask I forgot about that question.

1150
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 14: So that happened by ways of management. So I'm still

1151
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 14: signed that Geffen DreamWorks dissolved, and that turns into Okay,

1152
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 14: we'll keep these three artists from that label and turn

1153
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 14: you over to Geffen into Scope, one of which was Flowistry,

1154
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 14: So we're now we're into Scope. I have the relationship

1155
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 14: that I have with One Fair and Jimmy Ivan, and

1156
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 14: they're very much into Okay, Flowology is this album. Superstar

1157
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 14: is the single What's next? So I'm like, we'll make

1158
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 14: going to and make another album.

1159
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 11: Cool.

1160
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 14: Fast forward to management on r N. Jay Irving, who

1161
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 14: was Flow choose manager that entire time. Nat doesn't want

1162
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 14: him to manage her anymore. She's now got this boyfriend

1163
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 14: at the time managing her, who poses, so it's kind

1164
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 14: of like, you know, it's like, you know where they

1165
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 14: So we're talking about being young women that have come

1166
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 14: up in this industry.

1167
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 11: You think it's going to be one way.

1168
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 14: People have their own agendas, and he was clearly steering

1169
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 14: her in the wrong way. So once he gave an

1170
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 14: ultimatum with Geffen that if they don't offer.

1171
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 11: Her a solo deal, they're walking.

1172
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 14: Jimmy I been and Rounfair say okay, yeah, which is

1173
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 14: kind of what I mean. It was no one was

1174
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 14: there was there was no room to call any bluffs here,

1175
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 14: like you didn't have a leg to stand on going

1176
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 14: in there for that what that was we're talking about

1177
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 14: Gwen Stefani here.

1178
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 11: This is nothing that they were checking for.

1179
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 14: There were ways to go about whatever it is that

1180
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 14: you wanted, and it was just done the absolutely wrong way.

1181
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 14: So once management was one sided for Flower Try it

1182
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 14: was okay walk. Now we're no longer. Now we're missing

1183
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 14: a member. I'm still signed and obligated. Well, what I

1184
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 14: thought at the time was obligated to fulfill this contract

1185
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 14: in order to get out of it.

1186
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 11: So I'm stuck with Geffen and they want to do

1187
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 11: a to all.

1188
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 14: So the idea was get a standing, So management says, well,

1189
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 14: a friend of a management thanks, Ryan says, I know

1190
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 14: this chick. Amanda Will was a manager at the time.

1191
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 14: Amanda Sales and we meet hit it off immediately. I'm

1192
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 14: like all right, cool, this is what it's about to be.

1193
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 14: But the layers too, That is, you don't have a

1194
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 14: level of understanding of what you what effect you have

1195
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 14: on people until you're presented with that. So when you're

1196
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 14: on tour and you're standing there with what was people's flowatry,

1197
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 14: and it's like, well, who's this? I can't help what people.

1198
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: Do to that.

1199
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 14: So it was a lot of negativity from fans at first.

1200
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 14: That turns into Amanda turning on me.

1201
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 11: It's your phone. I'm like, listen, do you know what

1202
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 11: happened in order for you to stand there right now?

1203
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 14: I know your tears are warranted on your end, but

1204
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 14: you don't have a floaty tier to drop right now.

1205
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 14: You don't understand what I've been through to do this.

1206
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 14: So it's like I kind of want to I wanted

1207
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 14: to pull out hair. I'm ready to fight.

1208
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 8: It was.

1209
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 14: It was bad, but it was bad for several reasons,

1210
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 14: and that was just that one summer tour. So oh no, no, no, no, Well,

1211
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 14: because me and Amanda were recorded a bunch of songs

1212
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 14: like just they wanted to hear flowtry songs too, so

1213
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 14: it was like exactly, So the tour was very much

1214
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 14: Flowerty songs embellished a little bit, and then that was that.

1215
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 14: So that was two thousand and seven Flower Try Remixed Tour.

1216
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 14: And after that was deaded, I had to get legal

1217
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 14: to step in to make sure that my paperwork was

1218
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 14: straight and I wasn't obligated to get a R in

1219
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 14: the scope anymore on that end, And once that was cool,

1220
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 14: I was done.

1221
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: And then.

1222
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 14: Good old Peter Edge that was then A and r

1223
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 14: J Records and a fellow brit I felt like the

1224
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 14: right move and I.

1225
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 11: Was welcomed with open arms. And there's late nights and

1226
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 11: early mornings.

1227
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: Wow. So the very strong hope she cheat on you

1228
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: with the basketball? Oh about that?

1229
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 11: I you streamed.

1230
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 14: One late night and I freestyled that I was playing

1231
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 14: the chords and we were joking about something and I

1232
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 14: was like, oh, you should record it.

1233
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: So I did.

1234
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 14: Came to New York and KNI by ways of just

1235
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 14: Blaze did that record together, and before I knew it

1236
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 14: was on the radio. I didn't even know that was

1237
01:07:59,720 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 14: going to.

1238
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 8: What do you think about all those theories about what

1239
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 8: the song was about, because you know, the blogs were

1240
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 8: talking there were theories about I hope she teaches you

1241
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 8: on you with a basketball player.

1242
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, there was a theory that it was a boat

1243
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 10: on shoot. Now I'm going to put people's how do.

1244
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: You do this?

1245
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 10: How do the quest level?

1246
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 8: There was a theory that it was about an artist

1247
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 8: that you knew that you were affiliated, who had cheated

1248
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 8: with your a friend of your These are two males

1249
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 8: and they were friends, and they were working with each

1250
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 8: other and once slept with the others. That's the facts, okay,

1251
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 8: And then they had to fight at your at your

1252
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 8: gym session, grabar party.

1253
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 10: Oh, it was a whole thing.

1254
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:43,919
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I need to smoke signals. I need I'm lost.

1255
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 10: Because I know you know.

1256
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 14: You on stage and you gave me the look because

1257
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 14: that was the year you wanted to infuse.

1258
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 11: I think I did like a Josy feen in Mary

1259
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 11: j f or something like.

1260
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: I didn't eyes that that was inspired from that. What

1261
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: was going on?

1262
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 11: That was age.

1263
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: It was scary. It was scary.

1264
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 8: It was It was scary because you know your boy

1265
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 8: from Baltimore. You know what I'm saying, your other boy,

1266
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 8: he not knowing the fight, So I was like, please

1267
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 8: don't kill him, like.

1268
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: Because and he was just a friend.

1269
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 10: Yes, he was just a friend. Don't you say a name.

1270
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: I was just.

1271
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,919
Speaker 10: Yes, Mario who fought.

1272
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 11: Stories.

1273
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 14: And everyone's like, oh, mysh, what happened with such and such.

1274
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 14: It's just it's not only just me that was there.

1275
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 14: That didn't happen, you lion, No, we were all all

1276
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 14: saw it.

1277
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 10: So you can google it, just look up Mario.

1278
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 11: But that's exactly what really.

1279
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 1: It was on YouTube.

1280
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 10: It was on it was news.

1281
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay, let me see Christmas time

1282
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 1: with and this is what happens.

1283
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 14: I I call people anytime I'm doing an interview. I

1284
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 14: was like, you know, I run my mouth like, this

1285
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 14: is this is all of it. It's not about you.

1286
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 14: This is never shade. This is just facts.

1287
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 11: So if you want to heal, you can't heal what

1288
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 11: you don't reveal.

1289
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 10: You cannot heal if you don't reveal, So.

1290
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: Then don't heal. Just don't reveal keyloids.

1291
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 14: My mother almost tortured me with pictures of keyloids, saying

1292
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 14: that I would never get my ears pissed and fear

1293
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 14: that that.

1294
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 11: Was going to happen to me.

1295
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 10: I got something from the chicken pox.

1296
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 11: I see, it's not right.

1297
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: It's really where this conversation, I don't know. He out

1298
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: Keloyds is what happened when you heal too much. Don't

1299
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: gossip about other people's business right.

1300
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 10: Here, I'm sorry late nice early mornings.

1301
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: So that's how Late Night Chasing Clouds is.

1302
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 14: Like Science Michigan produced I record, and I remember hearing

1303
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 14: Science and all of his production and I was like,

1304
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 14: I want that. It was so cinematic and it makes

1305
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 14: me cry. I can't even perform that song. It's just

1306
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 14: so like never ending story on top of foul call.

1307
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: I remember, I wish I remember before it, before the

1308
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 3: album came out, we were doing the show. It was

1309
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 3: for an exchange and we were doing the show and

1310
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 3: maybe it was Baltimore, but anyway, we were doing the

1311
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 3: show and we were all hanging out at the hotel

1312
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: and you were playing me early stuff late night, like

1313
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: before I came out. You had all these jams on

1314
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 3: your laptop and you had a jam called first Position.

1315
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: This is how Petty Marsh is and I love it.

1316
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 3: She has a jam like she would be playing her

1317
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: I think you said that you were playing your cousin

1318
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: brother like with like brand.

1319
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 11: PlayStation.

1320
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 3: So it's a racing game and so she beat the

1321
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 3: nigga and she recorded a jam called First Position.

1322
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: So she be.

1323
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 14: Like, it's like, it's like if Freddie Mercury with Phil

1324
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 14: Collins drum intro came and just did like Bohemian rats, straight,

1325
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 14: very loud harmony in flash Gordon's about to.

1326
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 11: Marry Dale or something.

1327
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: It's just like a short little snippet you'll play with.

1328
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: It was like.

1329
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 11: My favorite, so putting it out there.

1330
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 14: I don't know what video game it could be synonymous with,

1331
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,520
Speaker 14: but First Position.

1332
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: Is He'll make you feel like.

1333
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 11: Place.

1334
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: I love that. I never forgot that.

1335
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 11: That is incredible.

1336
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: Wait. Also Far Away was on the Yeah, that was Yes,

1337
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 1: that's late.

1338
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 11: Night morning to that video. Yeah, shut and where was

1339
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 11: that across the wall Edgewood, New Jersey.

1340
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was proud when you did that video. That

1341
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 10: was dope for the community.

1342
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: Just curious, how did you look up Sterling Sterling Sims

1343
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: for that record?

1344
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 5: You know what?

1345
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 14: I'd known Sterling through Ivan Barias, who introduced when he

1346
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 14: was doing Yeah, I never noticed.

1347
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: I never knew.

1348
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 14: Because ambrosious, but I don't know sounds right to me.

1349
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: Wait you're ambrosius? Wait wait wait, I'm getting it was

1350
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: five seconds old when I just.

1351
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 11: Learned, so you've been saying ambrocious, that's the merit.

1352
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: Guy, Ambrosia.

1353
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 11: Well, this lady in the mall called me, I'm Burrows,

1354
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 11: you know again.

1355
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: I was just like, wow, I've been saying it right

1356
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: for ten years, thinking I've been saying it wrong.

1357
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 11: He got it here with it.

1358
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: Wow.

1359
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 11: Atarling was in what was Mike MacArthur in them studio

1360
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 11: home cooking, Home Cooking.

1361
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, it was a home cooking upstairs and they had

1362
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 14: that basketball court in there, and I was like, oh,

1363
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 14: Philly kids work with him. Then when I went to Atlanta,

1364
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 14: we were working together, and then we just ended up

1365
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 14: doing a whole bunch of sessions and we're in la

1366
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 14: at the time, and.

1367
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 8: I was like, well in La.

1368
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1369
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 14: So I was like far Away, I have a hook,

1370
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 14: I have a verse one. I was like, hit this

1371
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 14: verse two, hit verse two, and then tell that far Away.

1372
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: How did you you covered? Uh? Well, I knew if

1373
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: Lauren's version lose myself, how did how did that? So?

1374
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 14: I love the song and I remember Peter Rech and

1375
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 14: myself had the conversation. It was like I need to

1376
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 14: hear this song, and I was like, I know it.

1377
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 14: I said, you're talking about Lauren Hill happy. I said,

1378
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 14: you listening to this lyrically? He was like, yo, if

1379
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 14: you slow this down kind of sold it out to

1380
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 14: do an uptemper version of it.

1381
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 11: I was like yeah. I was like, I'd love Lauren

1382
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 11: to do that. I said, no, you do that, and

1383
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 11: I was like okay.

1384
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 14: And then I went through a bunch of production ideas,

1385
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 14: and because CANi and I had, you know, built a

1386
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 14: rapport at that time doing hope she cheats and you

1387
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 14: know other things, it was okay, let's do let's do this.

1388
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 11: Ended up doing this myself.

1389
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: So how did you develop your relationship with doctor dre So?

1390
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 1: And I feel like.

1391
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 12: I've heard the story from a comrade of ours shoringy

1392
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 12: shout out to Schorngy.

1393
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: He was just like, yo, man, doctor dre is like

1394
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 1: obsessed with Marshall. That's his favorite singer of all time? Like, so,

1395
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: how did how did? How did?

1396
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 14: It's crazy because of other people that have worked with him,

1397
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 14: it was like I might be the only artist period

1398
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 14: that can go in there and do what I want.

1399
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 11: I'm like, dre this is good.

1400
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, no, I've heard that. I've heard it

1401
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: from other people.

1402
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: This, yeah, so you'll make everybody do something like a

1403
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: million times with Marsh's like okay, like it's good.

1404
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 14: It's like just add more backgrounds in there. A couple

1405
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 14: of others like cool. So he came to a Flowatry show.

1406
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 14: He came to the Roxy in La on Sunset, small

1407
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 14: little dingy Roxy and we were doing a double gig. Oh,

1408
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 14: this was a wild night. So it's doctor Dre, Swizz Beats,

1409
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 14: A couple of other people came to the first half,

1410
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 14: and Prince comes to the second show.

1411
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 11: So it was just a wild night. But we get

1412
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 11: back on the tour bus and I get Jay.

1413
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 14: Jay Irving says, you know, You've got a phone call

1414
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 14: and it's Dre's people saying they want me to come.

1415
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 11: Through to the studio. So this is like oh earlier six.

1416
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 11: So I'm like, you know what, Sure go over there

1417
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 11: and I cut a record called Mama's House. Like one take.

1418
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 14: He played me this beat him and Mark Batson. Yeah,

1419
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 14: Mark Batson and him did this track.

1420
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 11: And I was like, what is this?

1421
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 14: Put me in the booth because I felt like I

1422
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 14: had something to prove it's Dre. I was like, I'm

1423
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 14: not about to fund this up, put me in the

1424
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 14: booth and he was like, you got something already to this.

1425
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1426
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 14: So then after that, after that demo, we were just

1427
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 14: cool and then clearly did the stuff with the game

1428
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 14: with Bus and then it turns into do a project

1429
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 14: over there. I'm like, yeah, But from that I built

1430
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 14: the relationships that I have with you know, his other

1431
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 14: team of producers, one of which Focus, And that's how we.

1432
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: Got how many people in Jay's Dre's click Like, is

1433
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: it steroids?

1434
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 8: No?

1435
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 11: Not really.

1436
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 14: He's very contained and it will be like, okay, I'm

1437
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 14: banging with this sonically and stay there. So it's really

1438
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 14: two or three people that will stay in rotation at

1439
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 14: one time. But Focus has been and still is and

1440
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 14: will remain to be the most consistent.

1441
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Focuses, that was how I really.

1442
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 3: I mean because I knew you of course, like from

1443
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 3: Floydri and stuff, but like when you and Focus started

1444
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 3: working together, me and him was doing stuff at the

1445
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 3: time and he was playing me stuff. It was the

1446
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 3: first mixtape y'all did, right, yours truly, yours truly.

1447
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 14: We have a ten year anniversary coming out. That's ten

1448
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 14: years ago. Yeah, that's crazy, but yeah, what the fuck.

1449
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 14: So I still bump that mixtape still Sunshine.

1450
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, damn. We did do something that record. Yeah,

1451
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: we did it, a little Brother Marshall record called Sunshine.

1452
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: This was God.

1453
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 14: That was ten years That was ten years ago and

1454
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 14: still bangs like yeah, So that's how that happened.

1455
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: And then who's the conceptualizer of friends and Lovers? Because me,

1456
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: I do all of my albums songs. That's my favorite.

1457
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: That's the one for me.

1458
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 14: Pop and oak Well Pop oak Flip produced that. We

1459
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 14: did that at Sigma Sounds in Philly. Well, what was

1460
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 14: Sigma Sounds?

1461
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 11: That's so sad.

1462
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 14: And the music just got me gone, right the building,

1463
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 14: I think it's gone. The building is gone twelve and

1464
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 14: what's that twelve?

1465
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 10: And racing was gone?

1466
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: So you and I was, I don't know.

1467
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 11: The music just sounded sad. It sounded very throwback.

1468
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 14: I pictured the Jackson five singing the hook and then

1469
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 14: this chick on a train like I'm gonna go tell

1470
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 14: him I love him, but I know he about to

1471
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 14: get married.

1472
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 11: But I'm just have to tell him to get off

1473
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 11: of my chest.

1474
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 14: Repercussions and repercussions, and I did so conceptually, that was

1475
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 14: the story that I wanted to have for that.

1476
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: But I love that song Thank You.

1477
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 8: It's this is the real story of y'all two getting together,

1478
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 8: as as interested as all these songs.

1479
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, our stories.

1480
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 10: We're talking.

1481
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: Song?

1482
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 8: Is it?

1483
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 10: I'm like, which song I thought we were.

1484
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: Not?

1485
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 10: Sorry?

1486
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 11: Sorry, you have to know how to get there?

1487
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry, other songs on the album, you go

1488
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: for it?

1489
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 10: What else is on that? We spend all my time?

1490
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 10: Oh my god, Charlie.

1491
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 14: Now my aunt passed away from cancer, and I remember

1492
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 14: my cousins hitting me like, oh, she's good, she's doing good,

1493
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 14: she's in remission. Oh it came back, but it's not

1494
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 14: that bad. And over a two month, three month period,

1495
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 14: it went from being okay to really know being okay,

1496
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 14: Like in the blink of an I felt like and

1497
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 14: I was like, you know what, you can't get time back.

1498
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 14: Everyone's like, I don't want to spend all my time

1499
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 14: with you. So it was never about there's no money

1500
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 14: for this. I don't have the budget that would take

1501
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 14: to heal you from cancer. You haven't and there's nothing

1502
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 14: we could do. Whether I had a trillion dollars or

1503
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 14: a buck in the account, there was nothing I could

1504
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 14: do so it was like, you know, I just want.

1505
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 11: To spend all my time with you.

1506
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 10: Charlie Wilson was your.

1507
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, only choice. It was original, just just me on

1508
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 14: the track. I was like, if I had someone has

1509
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 14: to be uncle Charlie.

1510
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 12: You ever watching warm up his voice before he listen?

1511
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 12: Have you ever seen him do this person? He did

1512
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 12: a little bit.

1513
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 1: He love it.

1514
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 14: Yeah, but that's that's maintenance, Like he plays no games,

1515
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 14: like he sounds like records on records on records.

1516
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: And he don't sing in the session unless it's at

1517
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 3: least seventy two degrees something. We don't sing, no air conditioning,

1518
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 3: Charlie Wilson, session.

1519
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: Everything, Charlie.

1520
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 14: So yeah, I spend all the time. They're the emotional songs.

1521
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 14: So what are we getting at here? What's this going?

1522
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 10: It was a point.

1523
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: Take care shoes sixty nine.

1524
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 10: You want to do a freaking one? Yeah, we do

1525
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 10: a freaky one?

1526
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: So what is the story?

1527
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 3: Where's the story with you and your husband? And then

1528
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 3: we can kind of feel in Yeah, yeah, I think

1529
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: sixty NFL good segue.

1530
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 14: We don't know martial like sex like it's cool. No,

1531
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 14: I had a wild dream that I was a stripper, okay.

1532
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 14: Within that week that I was recording with the interns

1533
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 14: so Too and Coase. At the time, we're on this

1534
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 14: very much sexual wave and I.

1535
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 11: Was like, you know what, I have something for that

1536
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 11: I don't think people expected from me.

1537
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: So it was.

1538
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 11: Six ten nine, but it was really like, I don't know.

1539
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 14: I was like, if Vanity six or Apolloni six did

1540
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 14: a song in what was that twenty fourteen, I think

1541
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 14: it would have been.

1542
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 11: At six Tina.

1543
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: It was just like cute. I just thought it was cute.

1544
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 11: It was very light work.

1545
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very cute.

1546
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 11: It was it was nice kissing fuck, it was amazing.

1547
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1548
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 11: I didn't want it to be an interlude. It was

1549
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 11: an entire song.

1550
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 14: And then they were like, oh, it's two acoustic guitar

1551
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,839
Speaker 14: is because it's an acoustic guitar and vocalist.

1552
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 11: Why does it have to do anything else other than

1553
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 11: But I was like, you know what, I'll make it

1554
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 11: a universe and.

1555
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cute.

1556
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 12: So talk about the transition, because I know that this

1557
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 12: album was released on is it this your own.

1558
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: Label or yeah?

1559
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 14: So have our own situation Human Resources jeving our label,

1560
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:59,480
Speaker 14: and we partnered with E one for NYLA. So transitioning

1561
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 14: from what we're friends of Lovers on A well, I

1562
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 14: wanted it to be Jay Records, and then that dissolves

1563
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 14: and it becomes RCA, and then half the industry assigned

1564
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 14: to that label, and it's I don't I can't do

1565
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 14: Hamster Wheels anymore. And I remember Prince just being like, yo,

1566
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 14: we just go independent.

1567
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 11: I'm like, I don't know, I'm scared.

1568
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 14: Go independent. Yeah, going, so thank you Prince. Then once

1569
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 14: I was cleared, I was like, you know what, now

1570
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 14: I can just create. Now I don't have to I

1571
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 14: want to. And that spawned the idea for NYLA because

1572
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 14: Friends and Lovers I was in a before I met you, bab.

1573
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 14: Friends of Lovers was tough because I had to admit

1574
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 14: that nothing was good for me, nothing, whether that was

1575
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 14: the relationship I was in the things that I was

1576
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 14: holding onto.

1577
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 11: This industry that's full of.

1578
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 14: Yes men and women and full of open bars and

1579
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 14: anything that's to you, you can have it. And if

1580
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 14: you just say yes to everything, like who are you really?

1581
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 14: So I was struggling. Yeah, I was definitely struggling a

1582
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 14: little bit. And then I had to center myself and

1583
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 14: go you know what, whatever I really want, I just

1584
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 14: want to be happy. The one I was decided on

1585
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 14: my own happiness is when everything fell into place. More importantly,

1586
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 14: forgiveness and the whole flowtry situation was something that was

1587
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 14: deaded at such a step in two thousand and six.

1588
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 14: It weighed heavy on me throughout that entire time between

1589
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 14: six and twenty fourteen. So twenty fourteen rolls around and

1590
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:45,759
Speaker 14: I say, you know what, I'm gonna forgive. So reached

1591
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 14: out to Nat, said, look what's up. It would be

1592
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 14: good for the fans. Let's just reconnect. And that was

1593
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 14: my way of getting that weight off of my back.

1594
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 14: And once we did twenty fifteen, that first tour, that's

1595
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 14: when we did the show. My husband though here it

1596
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 14: was a part of the tour, and I didn't know.

1597
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 14: I just kept seeing this very consistent, fine chocolate face

1598
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 14: and body, and it's like, who.

1599
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 8: Is out?

1600
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: Let's anyway?

1601
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 11: No keep that going?

1602
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: Sorry?

1603
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 11: I was like, he's fine, fine, like Ralph Angel, Queen Sugar, fine,

1604
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 11: Like who is that?

1605
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: But can he talk louder than Ralph Angel? Yeah?

1606
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 11: It's very very.

1607
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: Watch everything subtitles, you.

1608
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 11: Know what I say?

1609
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 14: The other day he's like you know Christian Bell does

1610
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 14: his Batman voy ye that he's gonna stopped, but I

1611
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 14: think it's good for that current Don Ralph angels that.

1612
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 11: Anyway. Desmond, Yeah, back to dead let's go.

1613
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 14: He was wearing this red fitted and I was backstage

1614
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 14: and I was like, who is this? It's like, oh,

1615
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 14: my role managem. Mitch was like, I told you, I'm

1616
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 14: bringing someone else on the tour, you know you and

1617
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 14: I was traveling separately, like he's gonna cover that side

1618
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 14: of things. I'm gonna cover you. I was like, oh,

1619
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 14: so he's on the tour, so I'm gonna see him

1620
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 14: married day.

1621
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: Okay. Cool.

1622
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 14: So that's what right about this last week of June

1623
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 14: apparently twenty fifteen, So apparently we met in an elevator

1624
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 14: in Cleveland, Ohio, and I didn't say hello or I

1625
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 14: kind of gave him the brush up.

1626
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: Y'all did the whole tour and didn't Oh no, no.

1627
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 11: Wait wait wait, So June fifteen it was because he

1628
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 11: was Game six.

1629
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 14: Okay, I was going to Game six Caves versus worries.

1630
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 11: That was on my mind.

1631
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 14: I wasn't taking no one, no, no, no. So I

1632
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 14: am still having issues with the whole flowtry situation. I

1633
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 14: was like, Wow, nothing will ever change, but you know

1634
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 14: what this is for me. This isn't about nothing else

1635
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 14: but for me. So I'm gonna go through it. Watch

1636
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 14: game six caves lose worries when Andrea goodal MVPs very bizarre.

1637
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 14: Fast forward to that last week and I'm like, you

1638
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 14: know what, I'm just gonna say, what's up? So I approached, Yeah,

1639
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:21,919
Speaker 14: look at the risks.

1640
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 10: Still there.

1641
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: So so.

1642
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 14: I initiated the conversation and it was very much you know,

1643
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 14: yes or no answers, and I'm like, okay, we get

1644
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 14: to Norfolk, Virginia.

1645
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 12: Though uh.

1646
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,919
Speaker 11: Yeah, Virginia is for loving Virginia.

1647
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 14: I love you because at the North the actual venue,

1648
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 14: they have a basketball court upstairs and a spar jakoozie

1649
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 14: and a great upright piano in the room, but more

1650
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 14: importantly a basketball court. And I saw him taking a

1651
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 14: couple of shots and I was like, oh, I.

1652
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 11: Play, you know exactly exactly.

1653
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: So that night.

1654
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 11: Everything in Norfolk was closed. Why is everything closed eleven

1655
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 11: or something crazy? So I wanted to.

1656
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 14: Grab a bite to eat. I texted him and said, Yo,

1657
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 14: you wanted me to be down in the lobby off.

1658
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 10: Did you beat him the game?

1659
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 14: No, we didn't play, said no, and our holds up

1660
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 14: there and all of my show outfit and high heels.

1661
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 14: Was like, oh, so he checked the form and stuff

1662
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 14: and then rolled and then I texted him and said, yeah,

1663
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 14: you want to go grab something to eat?

1664
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 11: Everything's closed, mind you. So we walk from what is

1665
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 11: downtown It's that more right there next to the river.

1666
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 14: We ended up with the cookout listen to cookout, Milkshakeshake.

1667
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 1: Cookout.

1668
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 14: It was it was like a three hour, four hour walk,

1669
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 14: but it was corny too. We ran through sprinklers. It

1670
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 14: was very, very wrong com made for TV. Lifetime could

1671
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 14: have got a Netflix still would have been like a

1672
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 14: you know, a limited series and HBO.

1673
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 11: We went X rated. So that night I remember calling

1674
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 11: my mother. He broke me back to my room.

1675
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 14: We got the burgers and talked about love life, god, everything, believes, dreams, aspirations,

1676
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 14: and I was like, Mom, I've met the one.

1677
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 11: He's the one I'm telling you. She was like, well,

1678
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 11: what happened?

1679
01:30:58,600 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 1: I was like, we kissed.

1680
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 11: She was like a memoir. I was like, that's it.

1681
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 11: I was like, who do you think I am waiting for?

1682
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 11: This elaborate, dirty story.

1683
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 14: I was like, this is the date, this is like

1684
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 14: the first date, so technically, and then by the time

1685
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 14: we go to Philly a week later, we were doing it.

1686
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry, sorry, sorry.

1687
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 11: It's just the most wonderful time of the wonderful So yeah,

1688
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 11: but we can.

1689
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 14: We get to Philly and we're doing it, and I

1690
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 14: guess at that point the whole tour, you know, every musician,

1691
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 14: every bad memory.

1692
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: Gentlemen, you have to understand that he's literally sitting like

1693
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: a yard heard.

1694
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 12: He knows it's the most wonderful time of the year.

1695
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 12: I can this platform to talk about microphone quar.

1696
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: It. No, no, I don't want to you know, infrared

1697
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: uh beam.

1698
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 14: Well, we finished that tour on my birthday actually, and

1699
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 14: August eighth, we were in Maryland a thing, or might

1700
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 14: even Baltimore. So do that show and find out that,

1701
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 14: you know, we both live in LA and said, when

1702
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 14: we get back to LA, you know, let's not make

1703
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 14: this just a tour, like make this the thing thing.

1704
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 14: So my dad was in town. I flew my dad

1705
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 14: out and my sister and my stepmother and they're staying

1706
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 14: at my place in l A. And I was like, Dad,

1707
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 14: I have someone I want you to meet already, but

1708
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 14: it just happened that my dad was staying in LA

1709
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 14: for that couple of days.

1710
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 11: So I was like, do you know what is going

1711
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 11: to happen?

1712
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 14: I'm a fall in love and what's going to be

1713
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 14: weird is if I come home for Christmas. You know,

1714
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 14: from August eighth through to December. I said, I don't

1715
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 14: want to come home in December with someone. You guys,

1716
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 14: what's this guy wanting to meet him now? Because I

1717
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 14: just know so, Daddy, but that's weird and weird. He

1718
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 14: wasn't weird, no, because I met his mother day one

1719
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 14: because we were picking her up and his other auntie

1720
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:19,879
Speaker 14: from a concert.

1721
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 11: I remember what concert that was, like the o Jays.

1722
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: Something said, aunt.

1723
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 14: We walk around the house just just periodically, like blurting out,

1724
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:42,799
Speaker 14: like you have to for anybody's auntie.

1725
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 11: So yeah, shout outs to Ken and yeah.

1726
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 14: We moved in about September fifteen and went home for Christmas.

1727
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 14: We went back to the UK for like a month

1728
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 14: because we did a floaty show out there, and then

1729
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 14: he met my entire family, like straight Liverpool strong scouse accents,

1730
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 14: like it was this marshal you moved to America eighteen

1731
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 14: years ago and we haven't seen one fellow.

1732
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 11: Who's this I'm still I put on an accent just

1733
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 11: to make you.

1734
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 10: Give us a proper version.

1735
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 14: This is like a hybrid I've lived in I used

1736
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 14: to live. I hate marm anyway, I hate I hate football,

1737
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:41,560
Speaker 14: and well I'm from Liverpool, so Liverpool, come on, you

1738
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 14: Reds can't be Everton.

1739
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 11: It's not gonna happen.

1740
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 14: But yeah, I'm I'm I'm okay, No, not really, because

1741
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 14: I do mince pies at Christmas.

1742
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 11: I love that.

1743
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 14: I love a good old custard with a nice sponge cake.

1744
01:34:55,960 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 14: I love tea and biscuits, bangers and bank as a mash.

1745
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 14: I love Shepherd's pie.

1746
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: A mash see is good night?

1747
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 11: So we have nothing else?

1748
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 10: Do we get what we so?

1749
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1750
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,560
Speaker 14: And then well fast forward to after that Christmas. We

1751
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 14: get back April. We're about to go on the second

1752
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 14: reuniting a flowtry because popular demand wants us to go

1753
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 14: on tour again. Those guarantees came in. I looked at

1754
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 14: them and said that we can do this within the year.

1755
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 14: What about house babe, Let's go went back out on tour.

1756
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 14: Because it's our job and our career and against everything

1757
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 14: I wanted to do. Yeah, yeah, So we did flow

1758
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 14: Try again twenty sixteen, which would be the last.

1759
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 11: But one week into that tour we find out we're pregnant.

1760
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 11: So if you've played at Yoshi's before in Oakland, so

1761
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 11: you do two shows a night.

1762
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,799
Speaker 14: We did two shows the night at Yoshi's, four days

1763
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 14: back to back to start the tour. So the first

1764
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 14: date was in Sacramento and we were on a flight

1765
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 14: on the way there and Des, my husband collapsed on

1766
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 14: this flight, like we had an early Black Girl's work

1767
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 14: was in New Jersey. We taped that got on an

1768
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 14: early flight to get to the first Floaty show.

1769
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 11: Hadn't really eaten. I think that's what it was. We

1770
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 11: just didn't eat.

1771
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 14: But he collapsed on this plane that they were about

1772
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 14: to land. It in the middle of nowhere, and I

1773
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 14: guess there was a nurse on the flight that assisted

1774
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 14: kind of made sure everything was okay. They took us

1775
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 14: blood pressure and when we googled it, pregnant women come up.

1776
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 14: So I'm like, whatever, and this is early, so this

1777
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 14: is like the first couple of days Aprils might have

1778
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 14: been April second so we do that showing Sacramento. He's

1779
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 14: now healthy, everything is okay. We do Yoshi's four days

1780
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 14: back to back, get to l A, and we're playing

1781
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 14: The Wilton that night. So what it was we were

1782
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 14: flying for the first week, and then we were getting

1783
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 14: on a tour bus. So I decided to do a

1784
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 14: pregnancy test for fear that I would just be on

1785
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 14: this tour bus stick out on my mind if I

1786
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 14: was pregnant. I wasn't taking it, like I'm pregnant, just

1787
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 14: check it. So we did an interview with a popular

1788
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 14: blog site, I'll say that and they leave the house

1789
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 14: and I'm like, okay, I'm just going to take this test, babe,

1790
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 14: I'm paying on it. I'm just gonna check I'm pregnant.

1791
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 14: I didn't say it like that, but that's how quick

1792
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 14: it said.

1793
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 1: I was.

1794
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 11: I paid on it and it said pregnant. So I'm

1795
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 11: waiting for the not to come up, like I was like,

1796
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 11: how does this work?

1797
01:37:48,880 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 1: Does it? Just? That was good?

1798
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 11: That was good.

1799
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: That's right.

1800
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 10: I was created, and.

1801
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 11: Then Dyla was created and we're pregnant.

1802
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 14: And it was so early on I didn't want to

1803
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 14: tell anybody on the tour, but I didn't want to

1804
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 14: not do the tour. So by ways of the doctor,

1805
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 14: They're like, you're fine, you know it's early if you're healthy.

1806
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,799
Speaker 14: Let's just see how this goes. So I booked doctor's

1807
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 14: appointments throughout the tour.

1808
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 11: My first one was.

1809
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 14: In Phoenix and if you played at the venue, the

1810
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 14: celebrity arena stage, oh my god, I was going to die.

1811
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 11: I was like, I'm so dizzy.

1812
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 14: I couldn't wear the high heels that I anticipated wearing

1813
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 14: for that tour and I'm now wearing these low what

1814
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:56,719
Speaker 14: the SB golgedes No, but I had chucks on my Nikes,

1815
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 14: my sb's and I'm like, I'm dizzy.

1816
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 11: This is weird. I don't like it. So we get

1817
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 11: to the doctor's like, yep, you are pregnant about you know,

1818
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 11: five or six weeks. I'm like, oh, I'm on tour

1819
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 11: for like another month and a half or so, and

1820
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 11: I'm like, you know, just just see how you feel

1821
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 11: sow it goes.

1822
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 14: So I get to Pensacola, Florida, and I almost throw

1823
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 14: up on the front row.

1824
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: Whoa.

1825
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 14: It was rough because it was like one hundred and

1826
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 14: ten degrees and humid, and I could smell everything. It

1827
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 14: was like the bar and it had like the lemons

1828
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:33,560
Speaker 14: and like that citrus smell. Anything sweet. I'm a dessert fanatic,

1829
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 14: and when I was pregnant, I couldn't touch sugar without

1830
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 14: throwing up. It was so it wasn't fair, Like nothing

1831
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 14: I was straight. I needed lazed potato chips and like

1832
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 14: bacon double cheeseburgers. I stopped eating red meat for seven years,

1833
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 14: and as soon as I was pregnant, I needed steak.

1834
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 11: But I guess your body just tells you what you need.

1835
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 11: And it was ridiculous. But yeah, So by the time

1836
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 11: you know, we get off tour, everybody were pregnant. Peace

1837
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 11: by love you. And then December nineteenth, Nithera's here, She's

1838
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 11: I love already. You kept say.

1839
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: I still love her.

1840
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 14: My grandma comes on that kind of cuspy, but she's

1841
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 14: definitely a saggy so tell us.

1842
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 3: So you were saying a couple of questions. So you

1843
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 3: were saying, when you did that floaty tour, you knew

1844
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 3: that was going to be like your last one. Oh yeah,

1845
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:27,560
Speaker 3: and what was how did you know?

1846
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: When?

1847
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 11: Not even about that?

1848
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 14: Because Nat and myself could do a floaty show with

1849
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 14: our eyes closed, like we could have had a whole

1850
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 14: fight and been on stage and given you the whole show,

1851
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 14: and you would know no different. The creativity part of

1852
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 14: it that will never well, hoping never will, but never die.

1853
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,600
Speaker 11: Personally could not tolerate.

1854
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 14: Not only past, but if you're someone else's trigger for

1855
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 14: what just didn't happen for you, you can't help that.

1856
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:01,879
Speaker 11: You can forgive everything.

1857
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 14: But if I'm the one that remained in the US

1858
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 14: and still doing what I'm doing, I'm a constant reminder

1859
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,560
Speaker 14: of what happened in two thousand and six, I'm a

1860
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 14: constant reminder of reasons why things went left or right,

1861
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 14: and there's nothing you can do to heal that other person.

1862
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 14: So I feel once we got to the end of

1863
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 14: that tour and there's still smoking weed on the bus,

1864
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:23,879
Speaker 14: you know I'm pregnant.

1865
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 11: Though it's the end.

1866
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 14: It's then I was like, you don't wish well for

1867
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 14: my life, and I don't care if it was done

1868
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 14: out of well. This is because in two thousand and

1869
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 14: six you said, I'm like, I did this for right now.

1870
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 14: I know what I've done, I know what I've said,

1871
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 14: I know things that I've possibly done that have killed

1872
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 14: you in some ways. And if you, like I said,

1873
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 14: if you can't heal what you don't reveal, if you

1874
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 14: can't tell me what it is, I don't know.

1875
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1876
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 14: It's like saying, you know, I'm okay now, Well I'm

1877
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 14: not like you don't when you like break up with

1878
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 14: someone or you're you're mad at someone and you try

1879
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 14: and reconcile. I'm not ready to reconcile. And I guess

1880
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 14: for twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. Initially with the twenty fifteen,

1881
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 14: we both were. But you've also shown me who you

1882
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 14: still are and still will be. And I'm cool on that.

1883
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 11: And that's okay too. Wish you well on everything that

1884
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:14,519
Speaker 11: you do, but I don't.

1885
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 14: I'm collectively we've all been in group situations where it's

1886
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 14: a lot of See I didn't think of that, but

1887
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 14: you know what it is. It's it's it's micro managing

1888
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 14: personal lives. Because the music is that's your first hand.

1889
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 14: We knew, we knew that part. It's everything else you

1890
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 14: have to deal with that comes with that. So so

1891
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 14: Nyla's out in stores, Nyler is out unavailable.

1892
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually let's not. I do have a question about

1893
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 1: the music, Okay, go for it.

1894
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 7: Are we ever going to get an officially released version

1895
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 7: of Yes, indeed, the team recover that you did.

1896
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 14: Dre and I discussed this and hopefully when it calls

1897
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,560
Speaker 14: for the moment it deserves, it shall be. But that

1898
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 14: was a tough one to tackle about Tina Marie be

1899
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 14: and one of my.

1900
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 7: Said, right, oh yeah, yeah, and I remember you played

1901
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 7: it at that show and it's on YouTube and everything.

1902
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: Good God, I played it like five six times in

1903
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: a row.

1904
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 11: You can't it crazy? But yeah, one day, one day

1905
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 11: I'll hit Dre.

1906
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 1: Also, uh, first position and we still what happened.

1907
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 11: First position when you gave said the text I want

1908
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 11: to see.

1909
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 1: Can't wait see. I wanted to ask about Cloud nine, but.

1910
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 14: So well, I will say about Cloud nine live, played

1911
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 14: it live, You're the only drama I have seen that

1912
01:43:59,040 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 14: on the planet.

1913
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 12: Because I wasn't going to be embarrassed by my first

1914
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 12: gospel chops challenge.

1915
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Have you heard Cloud Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's straight godless,

1916
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: It's I was like, never again.

1917
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 12: I went I went to that's the first night I

1918
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 12: spent the night at fallon my first night ever.

1919
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm not going to get embarrassed.

1920
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 1: On stage because I don't know how the gospel chop.

1921
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 1: I went on YouTube learn how to play the drums. Yes,

1922
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 1: I typed in gospel chops for dummies.

1923
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's eleven year old, like Filipino kid with his

1924
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 12: own pate dog.

1925
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 1: It's YouTube, it's the Internet.

1926
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 10: Why not just call a tribute.

1927
01:44:54,920 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: Anyway? Oh f is this episode? To get there? Yeah?

1928
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 1: And I had to shed for like five hours straight.

1929
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 12: Wow.

1930
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 1: Wow, that's how hard.

1931
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 14: It's a tough one, but it's it's so good. Another focus, Yes,

1932
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 14: shout out the focus.

1933
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: That's the homie. I really yeah, I have great chemistry. Yeah.

1934
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: I was so happy to see y'all work together for

1935
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:24,639
Speaker 1: like a whole.

1936
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 14: That's my brother for real. It's definitely a musical assault mate.

1937
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 14: He I mean, he's music woralty like it's in the

1938
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,759
Speaker 14: DNA like your dad is chic.

1939
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 11: Yeah, so crazy.

1940
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: Before we wrap up the show, what are your future plans? Mars?

1941
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 11: My future plans are creatively yo.

1942
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 10: I asked you that question four years ago. You said

1943
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 10: I just want to get married and have babies.

1944
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:56,799
Speaker 11: So here we are four years later and now crusted

1945
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 11: TV and film horror being my favorite genre.

1946
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see you in a horror film.

1947
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 1: I think you were about to say you.

1948
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, So what level are we talking

1949
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,719
Speaker 12: like round zombie level or are we talking well.

1950
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 14: The zombie stuff is just Gore for Gore's sake. For me,

1951
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 14: sometimes it's it's I love it.

1952
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm about because he's like, it's that.

1953
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, never mind, it's the things that you don't see,

1954
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 11: the scary.

1955
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,600
Speaker 8: And you.

1956
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: So you you like thriller, psychological thrillers, Yeah, I love Okay, we.

1957
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 11: Added like horror.

1958
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 14: I'm gonna go, well, go on a whim and say

1959
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 14: and you can say, this is my original idea and

1960
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 14: I gave you here for it's gonna happen.

1961
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

1962
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 11: Picture of the movie.

1963
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 14: Elm Street, And it's really about the suburban area of

1964
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 14: Elm Street and the parents that pluck to kill this man,

1965
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 14: Freddy Krueger, who allegedly sexually abused a kid.

1966
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 11: That's why he dies.

1967
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 14: So it's the horror that you see in normal people

1968
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 14: that you just go to the supermarket with. And they've

1969
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 14: decided that this missing kid is his responsibility and we're

1970
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 14: gonna kill him. And then Freddy has to like then

1971
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 14: declare his soul to the devil and says, you know what,

1972
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 14: I'm gonna come back and haunt your kids and your

1973
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 14: kids kids. That entire flick is creeping me out thinking

1974
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 14: about it. Has to happen, though, prequel it is telling

1975
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 14: you that's my artist name.

1976
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: Now be in six years mark over them so you

1977
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 1: got time to write them.

1978
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 11: It's done.

1979
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: There you go, Marsha. I thank you for coming on.

1980
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 11: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

1981
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 1: Sugar Steve, what'd you learn today? You haven't done this

1982
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 1: in a while. Man, Wow, her entire story essentially. Okay,

1983
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: even her you've known her and that I'm the only

1984
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 1: one here. Ironically, I suppose you've been pronouncing her name correctly.

1985
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 12: Yes, uh, unpaid Bill Man. Good people make good music. Okay,

1986
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 12: you just learned that.

1987
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 1: I learned that Matt Cappy is on a Michael Jackson song. Yeah.

1988
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: I was a low key jealous Matt Cappy. And then

1989
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 1: you learn how to drum on? Yeah, I learned that

1990
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 1: that eleven year old boys out of drump on the

1991
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:01,839
Speaker 1: on the buckets.

1992
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 7: I didn't know you were in the basketball so much,

1993
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:05,640
Speaker 7: so I thought that's pretty awesome. And as well as

1994
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 7: the horror flicks. That's that's pretty awesome. So two unrelated

1995
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:10,719
Speaker 7: to music, things that I think are really awesome about

1996
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 7: you awesome, Like where'd.

1997
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: You learn today?

1998
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 8: Learned that dev is seven years younger and looking for

1999
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 8: a younger man. No, but you know it's that it works.

2000
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 8: I still think it works more than a female's favor

2001
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 8: because of that. You know about the physical anyway, and

2002
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 8: I what they he would be still ready to go

2003
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 8: ahead it when she hits her peak, you'll know.

2004
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 10: I'm all about the sexual peak. You wouldn't think about Okay,

2005
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 10: I know you did anyway. And I learned that Marsha

2006
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 10: is gonna write the prequel for Nightmare on Elm Street.

2007
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: Yes, she's got a good idea for idea, man.

2008
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 3: I learned that Marsha is like healthy and happy and

2009
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 3: like it's still like from the last time we saw

2010
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 3: each other, like your life has just gotten better cause

2011
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 3: and like I'm just happy to see you. I mean

2012
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 3: because we've had conversations just before about the game and

2013
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 3: the industry and like just kind of finding your way.

2014
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 3: So when I saw you come back with Nyla and

2015
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 3: you were doing indie and you were doing with Focus

2016
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 3: and like we talked, I was just like yeah, this

2017
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 3: is it, and so I'm just happy to see you

2018
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 3: in the space that you're in because I know, just

2019
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 3: as artists art like, I know how that how.

2020
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: Crazy this ship can be.

2021
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:22,560
Speaker 3: So to see you still here, still doing it and

2022
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 3: be able to do it on your own terms, that's

2023
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 3: really uh, it's really smart business moves.

2024
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 1: Like having kids can be positive, having kids can't be positive.

2025
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 1: Learned to start risking it all I've learned.

2026
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 12: I've learned how to use one's own podcasts to deflect

2027
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 12: any love life.

2028
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate you see all that go around. Of course,

2029
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 1: love Supreme.

2030
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:01,839
Speaker 2: Courts loved Supreme. It's a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

2031
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 2: episode was produced by the team at Pandora. For more

2032
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 2: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

2033
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 2: wherever you listen to your favorite shows.